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As we said before, a 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.120 lot of people you know, always access for stuff outside 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:19.800 of America, so we thought this would be a good 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.400 idea and we're gonna touch Mother Africa, the continent. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.520 We got a large fan base out there, yeah for sure. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.080 So before I start, I wanted to shout out all 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.400 of our international listeners. We are trending on the top 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:42.199 charts and a lot of different companies countries Canada, South Africa, Mosambique, Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana, Tanzania, Grenada, Barbados, Barswana, Jamaica, UK, 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:49.560 DR the Netherlands and Trinidad. They say Tanzania, I think 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.760 I said Tanania. So yeah, shout out to you guys 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.600 man that we really appreciate you. You know, coming from America, 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.840 coming from New York, who knew that somebody in South 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.680 Africa will be interested in our conversation. But once again, 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.360 that just goes to show you the power of the Internet. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.240 And in Great Britain too, Oh yeah great. But well 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:10.240 we're gonna do something in London. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.280 Ye, A lot of people from London always asking us 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:12.720 when we come in. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.480 Toronto and London are two biggest international markets, so you 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.160 know that's special. But we know everybody else and it's 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.079 all a melting pot to a lot most people from 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.000 our listeners, probably in Toronto and UK, they're immigrants on 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.560 some level. Their parents, you know, they come from Africa, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.200 they come from Jamaica, they come from the island. So 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.760 it's all a melton pot. It all mixes together. So 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.240 we have a very familiar guest if you listen to 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.320 the podcast, because he was the guest on the last podcast. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.000 It's pushing a double hitter. It's qucially the double header 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.519 for us first, y'all, so welcome back having me. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.760 Yeah, yes, we did a wardrobe story. It was too long. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.000 We had to make sure you get two episodes. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.800 Yes, yes, all right, so we're going to talk about Africa. Right. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.720 We're gonna talk about a lot of different things in Africa, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.160 but first we're going to talk about something that started 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.919 in America reached over to Africa, which is basketball. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:12.280 Right. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.440 Basketball is a global sport. If anybody is not familiar, 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.040 I played basketball in my whole life. That was my 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.000 original plans going to the NBA. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.440 As most young people in our community. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.720 Yes, right, so now my son has to live up 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:25.960 to that. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:28.440 There's a lot of pressure on them. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:35.640 So so, but the NBA is strategically spreading its wings 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:36.520 across the globe. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:36.720 Right. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.960 If you know anything about sports, you know soccer is 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:47.480 the most dominant sport in the world football football, It's house. Yeah, yes, exactly. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.640 American football is what they call our football. That's the 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.800 most popular sport in almost every country in the world. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:58.600 But basketball is catching up close, probably second in majority 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.240 of the countries. It's huge in Asia. Think it's like 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:06.520 the number one sport in China, and it is the 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:12.480 number two sport in Africa, right behind soccer football. So 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:17.839 the NBA decided that they're going to open a branch 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:19.160 in Africa. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:19.960 Yeah. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.960 I actually wrote about this on Instagram. But it's going 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.719 to be NBA Africa. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.600 I think nine different countries are going to be participating, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.120 and it just shows the spread of the game. And 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:32.960 I think it goes back to we can we can 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.400 pinpoint it back to like the original Dream Team in 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:36.040 nineteen ninety two. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.160 Hopefully all listeners can remember back that far. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.080 It seems crazy to us, but like, yeah, nineteen ninety 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.479 two when the Dream Team played at in Goola and 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.520 they won by like seventy something points, But it was 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.720 the fact that you had people from a country in 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.599 Africa competing with Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.600 and all those greats and then fast forward, right, like 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.039 a guy like Joel Embiid who's now an NBA superstar, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.960 And you know gods like Surge and Vodka and Siakam 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.560 come from you know, countries in Africa. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.760 You can contribute to that, to that game, of course. 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.800 And it's similar to like how like Rashall was saying, 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.960 like China it's number two sport there, right, or close 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.760 maybe number one, but like the impact that a guy 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.000 like Yao Ming has had of course, right. So like 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.000 you see now when when NBA players, especially those who 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.719 have marketing deals, they do the season right and the 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.760 first stop they that they have on the off season, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.080 they do it to China exactly right, right, And then 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.440 you got companies like Leaning and all these other companies 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.400 signing guys because they know the global spread of it, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.240 right right, Like that's our export. Whereas sports like baseball 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.680 it's played in China but not played in other countries, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.680 right right. Like and same thing with American football. They 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.160 tried it in London, botch. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.000 And that's what was the only international American sports exactly 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:46.400 the fact. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.359 So you you used to work for NBA League pass right, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:49.760 that's right? 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.440 Yeah? And then so. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.400 You you were a part of the African launch of 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.880 the NBA Pass. Yeah, yeah, can you talk about that? 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.159 Sure? Sure, sure, So I pay out every every year. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.880 So EMI League Pass for those who don't knows, like 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.480 the Netflix for basketball. So obviously you could watch if 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.280 you live in New York. Well let's say you live 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.320 in Chicago. You basically if you're your local television station 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.240 is only going to show you the Bulls, right, and 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.800 then maybe you could watch maybe a national televised game. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.760 That has some other teams. But let's say you live. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.479 In Chicago and you are a Rockets fan and you 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.520 want to watch every game, you had to subscribe to 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:21.400 the NBA League Pass. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.960 And so that's how it works in the US. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:28.080 But people that are NBA fans internationally, they're not going 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.120 to get as many games on their local television or 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:31.480 they may not even people can. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.240 Record what national exactly. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.520 So now you can watch all the games on your app, 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.200 on your app or your Apple TV or your local 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:41.240 or your PlayStation. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.840 So I was on the team that was responsible. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.400 For growing the Digital plaf Digital League Pass outside the 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.919 US and Africa was a major focus for US and 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:56.039 it was a growth area from a monetary standpoint. China Australia, Canada, UK, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.360 where the where the I guess the places that most 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:00.280 of the revenue came from. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.560 But for the what they saw the future growth. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.880 From was was Africa for two reasons, not only from 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.840 customer consumption standpoint, but from a talent standpoint too. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.160 Yeah. I remember, I'm a huge Bulls fan. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.600 So I remember Lou Dang, right, and he's doing some 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:17.840 amazing things in Africa. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.200 But like you know, he's doing stuff with Nipsey's partner. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.880 Yeah, gross David Charlotte, David Gros get him on the podcast. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.720 So like, what was the plan do you know, like 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.480 the NBA's plan to because obviously this is planned out. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.239 What was their plan to move into Africa? 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.679 So there's I mean there's always been relationships. You mentioned 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.240 gla game, but there's been NBA players from Africa since 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.040 the eighties, right. So you had a Keem who changed, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.600 You had new Ball, his son just got drafted exactly. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.440 Then you had uh change his name. Yeah, there was 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.320 no age prior to him coming to America. When he 0:07:58.360 --> 0:07:59.920 went to Houston, they put the h on it. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.960 I'm not even sure what the best today's yes, right, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.840 And then you had the Kirie Matumbo Pools who followed 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.320 a new pat Bowl and Millon Ball. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.840 We mentioned, Yeah, the KEMPE has some direct ties into 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.960 getting the league into Africa. 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.680 Right, so you know those old players always had philanthropic 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.920 relationships with the league, right, so like doing doing like 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.680 you know, nonprofit stuff. But in that what happened was 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.360 the league would go there and like wow, like you're 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.400 from this tribe and everybody in this tribe at six 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.880 y nine, and like, we can do something here. And 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.880 obviously you have the visual league being the you know, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.760 the blackest league, right, there's some visual connections there, and 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.720 so they had to realize and then I think they 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.800 learned a lot from the other leagues, right, for instance, 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.200 the investment that the MLB mess Major League Baseball doesn't, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.679 the Maican Republic doesn't, Venezuela doesn't. In some of these 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.440 other countries where there's a bunch of talent is on 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.560 another level. So they're like, hey, we could do this. 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.480 We can make this whole content on our farms. They're 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.000 trying to do that. Now, that's funny you said that. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.840 Major They just had the Yankees and the Red Sox 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.920 play in London and everybody was like, we don't even 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.719 care about baseball. It's like it's soccer or it's cricket, right, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.360 you know what I'm saying, So like that's true, like 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.480 they're trying to spend it two and I think maybe 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.640 and maybe it's true or not. But because of the 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.840 population of Africa, like we know that majority of the 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.520 population is under like twenty five exactly, right, so there's 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.320 a huge growth curve exactly for potential athletes and business people, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:26.960 right exactly. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.880 So a lot of people asked the question. I wasn't 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:29.839 really one hundred percent sure. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:30.600 The teams. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.120 I don't know if you know or not, but the teams, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.080 like the nine teams, who's going to be the owners 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.720 of those teams? You know, people in Africa? 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:37.560 Or yeah? 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.320 So this actually so I left the league prior to 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.680 this being an announced. I don't know one hundred percent 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.600 sure the full structure, but what I remember it being 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.560 is a combination, like a co ownership between the league 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:51.439 and local partners. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.320 Yeah okay, because well, how do you feel personally just 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.960 your personal opinion about that. Do you feel like Africa 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.000 would have been better to have their only because you're 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.800 Europe has their own leagues, Like people come go from 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.720 America all the time, and Africa does have leagues. In 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.000 Nigeria specifically, it's not it's not the same it's not 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.119 the same level of Europe. So but like the EuroLeague 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.600 is very strong. Do you feel like they could have 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.040 done better at just forming a league together themselves or 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.480 do you feel like the NBA is a is a 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:19.800 good partnership for them. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.320 The NBA is a good partnership. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.120 Like you said, there are already leagues, they just haven't 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.160 really taken off to the same level having had. And 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.400 also there's an issue in Africa, not only between a 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.680 from a sports perspective, but from a business perspective where 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.840 there's not too much inter country trade, right, and so 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.520 I think it would have been difficult for like a 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.319 league to be cross continental and to have different things 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.679 and all the ownerships being like inclusive in those specific countries. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.240 I think the NBA being an outside force for bad 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.040 for worse American Western sports force and tying it together 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:57.439 makes it. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:57.880 A lot better. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.719 People got to visualize that, right, because this isn't like 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.240 you're going from New York to Florida. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.600 You're going from country to country. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.240 So like when they have a Spanish League that they're 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.679 all in that country, exactly what Africa's trying to do here. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.280 Like literally you're going to nine different countries and. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.960 Even you know, the the European leagues, just like the 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.720 soccer leagues, you have the you know, you like in 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:23.360 soccer you have Barcelona playing against Byron or Real Madrid 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:28.920 I mean, or Manchester United. Like traveling between those countries, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.880 like their countries are really compact. Like traveling between these 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.480 countries are not really a big deal. And they have 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.600 the funds to do that. Like you can't take a 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:40.079 train from Legos to Acra or Legos to to you know, Johannesburg, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.840 like it's it's it's not the same, right, So I 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.920 think the level of investment that you need in the 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.240 organization you would need, the NBA could work that out. 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:50.559 Yah, that makes it a good partner. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.719 And I think the African Union actually did that. They 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:58.400 just announced that they're going to eliminate tariffs on into 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.959 continental trading. We wrote about that on Instagram as well. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.520 I think it's like forty countries involved, and yeah, I 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.440 think that's going to start next year where tarrofts will 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.400 be eliminated for the majority of the continent. So they 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.559 actually hopefully they're going to start doing more because you said, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.160 like you know, it's not a lot of that going 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.839 on right now, but hopefully that's a step in the 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.160 right direction where they can actually start to trade in 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.800 between the continent with each other. So all right, so 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.520 now we got we got the league covered, but we're 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.760 going to go into some more interesting things on the 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:33.400 continent on the next segment. All right, so we're now 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.040 we're gonna talk about content, right because continents King, We've 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.080 covered content on America, but we haven't covered continent internationally. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.560 So Iroco yep, can you explain that? 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:48.599 Yeah, so Iroco is Aroco TV is the is a website. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:52.040 It's a startup that was created in twenty and eleven. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:57.079 I work there from twenty twelve through almost twenty fifteen. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.880 And so what it is is basically the Netflix of Africa. 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.320 And the question is why do you need in Netflix 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.760 of Africa is because the third big the third biggest 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.680 movie marker in the world is actually out of Nigeria. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.040 So number one is Hollywood. Number two is Bollywood. Number 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:17.320 three is is Knowllywood. I heard it's a huge there. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.199 It actually one of the years I worked there. It 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.640 actually grows about eight hundred million USD in that place, 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:29.000 and it's a tremendous market. It's it's interesting, at least 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.320 from my perspective, I might have consumed too much Western content. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.120 It's not really my thing. But the movies are being 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.000 produced for like less than ten thousand dollars and in 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.840 like two weeks high volume. As you can imagine. Because 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.800 the market, the movies are not the highest priced and 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.600 the biggest budget. You're not really seeing action movies. These 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.280 are like romantic movies, comedy movies, movies where you don't 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.600 need special effects. But basically the way it worked is 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.440 the gentleman I worked for. He's a Nigerian brit So 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.360 he lives in London, travel to London to Nigeria often 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.760 to see family or whatever. And at the time, all 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.360 of the content was in DVDs. So what his mom 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:12.240 would do is go from London and Legos, spend maybe 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.880 Christmas time or whatever their family, come back with a 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.520 suitcase full of of DVDs. He was like, well, why 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.280 can't my mom consumed the content the same way I 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.200 do on Netflix? And so that's how the ideas started. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.880 So move back to Nigeria, took that, took the DVD 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.920 content digitized. It also built relationships with some of the 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.080 movie producers. To them, they were like, because Netflix wasn't 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.960 even a big thing out there at the time, They're like, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.640 you want you want to give you want to pay 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.600 me for my digital rights? And to them they're like, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.360 I don't really know what digital rights means, but like 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.320 you want to give me some money, it's whatever. So 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.280 they he got some exclusive pretty pretty uh cheaply and 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.960 basically took that, took those that piece of content, initially 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.240 put it on YouTube. It started blowing up, and because 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.640 people that emigrated outside Africa that lived in the US UK, 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.120 they were able they were now able to see the 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.600 latest movies without having a wait for people to send 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.600 the DVDs back. And then he eventually actually raised money 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.600 from a US venture capital, so that firm was actually 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.440 the probably one of the first two Africa based tech 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.960 firms to get the US venture capital in twenty eleven, 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.880 and I joined them and opened up their New York 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:29.000 office because their biggest audience, even though they had African content, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.720 were Africans in the US and so and then it 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:33.680 kind of grew from there. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:34.440 Wow. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.240 So Netflix itself, right, he said, it's the Netflix of Africa. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.000 It doesn't exist on all continents, right, And that's one 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.360 of the things they said that it probably potentially has 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.120 some great growth and we documented, you know, some of 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.160 its setbacks as well. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.560 But what is like the price point on a rucual 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:51.640 TV type situation. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.200 The latest price is it depends on the country, but 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.680 the latest price is it's actually similar to Netflix. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.840 So they have a nine ninety nine plan. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:07.600 There's one that's around uh around six ninety nine, but 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.760 it's actually priced in and UH at least in Nigeria 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.120 and uh Nayra. And it's very volatile. It depends on 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.480 the US the exchange rate. But the company's expanded. So 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.400 since I worked there, they've done a lot of production. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.800 So they're actually making movies content. Yeah, and actually they 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.800 they they as of two weeks ago, they actually ended 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:36.320 up selling that production house to a French media conglomerate 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.320 called kind Out kind Out Plus, so kind c A 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:41.640 n A L plus. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:43.800 How so, how many countries are there. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.840 In so the the rocal content is global. It is everywhere. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.760 So there when I was there and and and even 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.200 now there's customers in over two hundred countries in the 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.479 world because the African ds port is everywhere. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:58.440 And it's just started by African. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:03.600 African, Yeah, Africa and German so uh so basically too, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.680 they went so that the German person and an African 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.760 person went to school in Manchester. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:11.560 They met. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.399 The African person came up with the idea and then 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.360 he co founded it with the German individual and they 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.080 both moved full time to Legos and built it out. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.719 Ended up opening an office in New York and London 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.280 to help distribute the content. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.639 Something else was was recently started with a German and 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.200 an African right that went public. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.600 Junior Ji so based the Ali Baba of Africa exactly. 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:41.240 So there's this company called Rocket Internet started by German brothers. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.119 And what they do is they actually built, they built. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.280 They built companies that are successful in the first world, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.919 so Amazon back group on all that kind of stuff, 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.440 and they built it in like emerging markets where those 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.600 companies are not there yet. And so what they did 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.679 was they looked at Ali Baba slash Amazon and they 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.960 decid had to build it in Africa and they called 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.320 it Jumia. And so they're in Nigeria there in Kenya, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.440 and there's some other countries as well, and so yes, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.719 there there, it's interesting there is there is like I 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.320 guess a few people of German descent that build tech 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:14.960 companies in Africa. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.200 So that's so they're literally watching the world as it's 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.080 happening and saying, all right, let's go to a part 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:20.359 of world where it's not happening. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.360 And let's build it there. Exactly. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.320 But I mean from a kid from Queens Man, like 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.160 your journey has been out of this world, like a 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.400 vision like that, your studies, whatever it take you like. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.679 No, definitely not definitely not man, it's just kind of 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:38.080 like uh working in you know, went to school. I 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.520 knew I wanted to do business. They didn't know what 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.720 that really meant because I didn't really have business people 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.520 in my my you know, my family or even around me. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:51.520 Haitian rights, yeah, man, Haitian thing is like hey, mom's 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:56.119 a nurse, you're going to be a doctor, or if 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:57.320 you don't want to be a doctor, to be a lawyer, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.280 if you're gonna be a layer, be engineering, and so 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.320 this business think it was something different and uh study 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.520 business got was was was fortunate to be part of 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.360 an internship and called in Roads in college. In college 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.879 that introduced me to Wall Street for lovel wall Street 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.760 financial crisis happened, fell out of love of Wall Street, 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.840 went to school and kind of discovered tech and the 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.000 world and how it was using around the world, and 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.760 kind of that's kind of how I ended up working 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:22.520 at the company. 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.520 So we talk about music. I know you I mentioned 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.480 on the content of musical content, Yeah, which is hot 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.240 right now. As far as afrobeats, it's a bunch of 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:33.360 artists out there with his kid. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.359 Uh he just put out his album. Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.280 Somebody else has had a song on the radio they 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:44.479 keep playing all the time. Uh that Joanna song. Joanna 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:45.919 is like things that. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:50.000 I forget the name the title. Then God, all I 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.440 know is that it follows me every time I get 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:51.760 in the car. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.719 Is knows he's burning up. Now. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:56.199 I think you got a song with casting over to 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.840 but yeah, can you talk about that? 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.600 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.880 So we back then we uh, this is twenty twelve 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.119 to thirteen, and so obviously being in the movie space 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.720 in Nigeria, there was a cause proximity to the musical 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.159 space and so the CEO came out with the idea 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:17.800 like all right, let's come up with a company called 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:22.360 ira King, which we would it's basically Spotify for Africa 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.920 where we take that content. And so a lot of 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.879 these people you talk about we did. We were the 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.160 first ones to digitize that content even back then. 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.800 And uh, it was too early. It was too early. 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.359 I mean the company was out there and it just 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:42.320 the music wasn't as popular yet here. And then obviously 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.600 probably after they decided to wrap it up and focus 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.000 only on music, I mean movies one hundred percent. 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.840 Like that's when like Whisky was doing songs with Drake 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:52.640 and it was just an early thing. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.760 And if they were, if they were to capt that 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.520 up like that company would have been something different because 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.120 that you know, afrobeat is the thing. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:01.679 Right right now for sure. Yeah. 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.600 So and it's it's it's it's it's crazy. I mean 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.400 because of the Internet, you know, music and content and 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.400 just cultures is so there's no borders. 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.240 Afrobeats feels like reggae to me. 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.639 It does a vib it's a whole vibe like that. 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.000 It's a similar type of vib I think. 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.240 So, you know, I think we're all in a similar 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.679 age groups like mid thirties whatever growing up in New 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.080 York City area, Like you couldn't go to like a 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.760 party in the late nineties and early two thousands without 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.760 hearing you know, dance had his time where he was 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.240 doing songs with everybody then. Like I think it was 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:39.439 a big era of like reggaetne reggae, albat is it. 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.600 So I think everybody there's always like some of this 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:47.120 this like African daspora music that's taking over. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.320 Afrobeat is having this thing right now. 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:51.679 All of the music, I mean it has roots in 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.320 Africa of course, you know, as far as the drums 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.560 of course, and you know all of that stuff. So 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:02.440 you know, it's not surprised that it's popular because it's 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.960 always been popular, just not it wasn't framed in that way, 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.120 right right, So like you said, it sounds like reggae, 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:13.600 but really probably the reggae comes from that originally. 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.320 Like you know what I'm saying, So like jazz and. 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.520 What's fluid ben because people out there love reggae, people 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.439 out there love even Haitian music. White Clefs is huge 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.399 over there in Africa. Like I go, like, you know, 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.760 I that's why Cleves young. They might be the young. Yeah, exactly. 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.320 My you know, my my in laws are from Nairobian. 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.919 I go over there and like I go and I 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.399 listen to I'll be at a restaurant and then the 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:41.520 server would have a Jamaican wristband. I'm like, you've been 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.760 in Jamaica, Like you know, I've been you know, from 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.840 I mean Haitians, back from Queen So like, I've always 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:47.919 been around Jamaican's. 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:49.040 I've been in Jamaica many times. 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:50.879 And so I was like, oh, where you from in Jamaica, 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.680 Like what are you doing here in Narobi And They're like, no, 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:53.760 I've never been in Jamaica. 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:58.360 I just love reggae culture. Culture. The culture is huge, right, 0:22:58.400 --> 0:22:59.840 and so yeah, it's kind of gone back. 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:04.359 So definitely, I do believe although reggae has African rules, 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:06.919 I think the afrobeats learned from reggae too. 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:07.560 Yeah, for sure. 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.520 And even I mean it's all cross because even if 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:13.560 you go to Jamaica, you see a lot of flags 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.520 from Ethiopia. 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:20.720 Of This episode is brought to you by P and 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.840 C Bank. A lot of people think podcasts about work 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:27.800 are boring, and sure, they definitely can be, but understanding 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.840 of professionals routine shows us how they achieve their success, 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:35.040 little by little, day after day. It's like banking with 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.720 P and C Bank. 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It's all connected for sure. 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:17.760 So let me ask you this as far as the 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.280 music scene, because you know the music is blowing up, 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.840 do they have record labels in Africa or are those 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.240 artists being signed to like American labels. 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.440 So they have record labels, but most of the people 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.760 that you see successful here are they have affiliations with 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:36.760 US record labels. And that's that's what's helped quite a 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.080 bit bad. At the time, it wasn't like that. But 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.959 you know, actually the individual that ran that division at 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.240 the company I was at here, he left and went 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.680 to Sony Music. So like the that at that time, 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.200 they realized that it was heating up and they started 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.159 putting people on the ground to kind of pull that 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.280 talent in and be that that in between. So yeah, 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.240 so for the most the people that you see now 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.160 and having success. They're backed by US powerhouses. 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:08.400 So even then, even at that venture in Iroco, your 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.800 job was to do the analytics, right, yeah, so what. 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.240 Type of things are you looking for? Like sure, sure, 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:14.920 so yeah, So it was a lot of things. 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:19.920 So the analytics were mainly analytics that you would see 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:23.920 on any digital platform. So I was responsible with looking 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.439 at the website, seeing where people were coming from and 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.280 use that information to figure out what the best marketing 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.600 campaigns were. Like you would see if people came from Google, 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.000 people came from an email, people came from Facebook. I 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.080 would look at also what people do on a website 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.479 to see whether we should do things to the website 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:45.040 that would make the navigation a lot easier. And then 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.879 from a content perspective, the cool thing about digital content 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.000 you could put numbers behind actually the amount of people 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.080 that were playing a certain piece of content, and then 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.800 I could go to the content team and they're like, 0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.680 all right, drama movies are on average played twenty five 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.840 percent more on our web site. Therefore drama movies are 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.199 more viable. So they would use that information to go 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:09.159 to the negotiation table to decide what content to renew, 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.359 what to buy and et cetera. 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:13.399 The numbers guy. 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:15.439 All right, So in the next seven we're going to 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.719 talk about a few other things. And the question that 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.600 everybody asks anytime that we post anything about Africa is 0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.320 it's China behind it, Chinese influence. So we're gonna talk 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.400 about Chinese influence in Africa a little bit. We're gonn 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.640 talk about some other things as well, So be right 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.560 back with that, all right. So one of the things 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.920 that everybody always comments, so anytime we post anything about 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.560 Africa is like the Chinese behind it, was Chinese involved 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.040 with So anybody's not familiar China. And it's not just Africa, 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:48.040 it's all over the world, right, Jamaica heavy and heavy influence. 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.160 China has a heavy influence in Jamaica and they also 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:53.840 have a heavy influence in Africa. 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.640 A lot of countries in Africa, the continent. 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.560 They really have a China has been involved in Jamaica 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:03.760 for a long time. Jamaican billionaire. Yeah, Chinese. Yeah, it 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:05.840 bugged me out the first time. I really I ain't 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.440 really I saw somebody that was Chinese, but they was 0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:09.600 talking in Jamaican accents. 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:14.560 Why, but it's a lot of people in Jamaica. It's 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:15.440 a very diverse country. 0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.040 Yeah, I mean my grandparents Jewish, you know what I mean. 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:23.600 So like when I heard both of your grandparents, my grandfather. 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.920 So when I when you see them on TV, talk 0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.400 like my mom, my mom's last made The name is Twari, 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.400 which is a Jewish diamond company in Jamaica. So like 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.680 when I sold on TV, it's like bugs me out. 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.800 I'm like, wait, they don't look like us. They sound 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:38.680 just like us though it. 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:39.880 Is we It's crazy. 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.640 So all right, can we talk about that Chinese influence 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:43.080 in Africa? 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.040 China obviously, you know, since they kind of you know, 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.040 they're still communists kind of, but over the last whatever 0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.640 three or four decades, they've embraced capitalism and it's been 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:57.440 with the aggression. The level of wealth that's being created 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:01.800 there is immense, level trade is immense, and with that 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:06.200 they want to be a world player, right, and to 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.400 be a world player you have to, you know, put 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:13.040 stakes in other places. And they see Africa as a 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.720 place that's been ignored by the Europeans, the US, et cetera. 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.360 And there's a lot of opportunity and the way they're 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.160 doing it is by using. 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.960 Financial capital as well as human capital. Right. 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.640 So what they there's a lot there's a lack of 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.760 infrastructure across the continent. So what they're doing, they're going 0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.200 to countries and they're saying, hey, we'll build a new 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.960 highway for you, we'll build a new bridge for you, 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.920 we'll build a new factory for you. But you know, 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.400 after we build it, you know, maybe we have to 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.160 have exclusive rights to it. Maybe you know, we need 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.640 to do X, y and z, and so in doing that, 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.600 they're just building everything, you know, they're you know, they're 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.840 having the opportunity to kind of uh state their claim 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.520 and so they're going into it at least from the 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.320 onset of as if they're helping, which there is a 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:03.880 level of it. 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.600 But the way they're doing it, a lot of people 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:06.120 don't agree with. 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.680 It, right, because what they do is they you're not 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.400 hiring local people, right, they bring their own people to 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:12.440 build everything from China. 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.440 Yeah, cheaper labor, cheaper labor. 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:16.840 There's even people, I mean, I don't know if this 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.640 is true or not, but the people saying that they're 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.040 taking prisoners from China and using them as like labor 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:22.920 in Africa. 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.080 That's that's that's I don't I don't know the truth there, 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.840 that's there's a whole there's a whole story on it 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:33.200 on HBO UH Sports. They covered it. It was like 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:34.040 pretty in detail. 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.200 It was that was one of the rumors that they 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.800 covered so right, and you know, and you. 0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.480 Know, I think, I don't want to I don't want 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.280 to like feed into like the whole Africa and nepotism 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:47.680 and and and corruption story. 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.280 But there's a lot of out there. 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.440 And so what they're doing is they're like sometimes they're 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.160 Greece in the pockets certain politicians and then politicians are 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:54.960 signing things. 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.760 Off and and that's it. So then you have a. 0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.440 Road, you have a bridge, you have a something like that, 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.840 just a railroad built by Chinese hospital hospital. And then 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.840 you know then after that they have ownership or they 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.520 could have ownership. What they might do is they may 0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.080 do something where they they offered, they built it, they 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.360 offered the financing, and they do it at like maybe 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.240 a user's interest rate to the point where the country 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.280 can't pay it and then they're stuck with it. So 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.520 you know, there's a story in Kenya that I could 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.640 go into if you want. Yeah, yeah, so Kenya recently, 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.840 you know there's a port that is in their uh 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.200 their Mambasa which is a huge port city. And in 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.520 Kenya where it was a port that was rebuilt shipping 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.040 port that was rebuilt by the Chinese and and and 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:44.320 part as part of the deal. Somehow they built it, 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.600 but they lent Kenyon's money to pay them for building it, 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.240 and then Kenyans cannot keep up with the interest rates 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:57.640 and they took the port over. But the what was 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.080 said is that it's it's temporary, but you know, you 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:02.240 know things are not always not. 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.160 But they did in Jamaica to this, so they built 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.880 the airplane. They bailed the airport out, like the second 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.600 largest airport in Jamaica, and it's like on a twenty 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.959 year lead, like they own it for twenty years, but 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.040 then they can buy it back at the twenty year mark. 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.920 But probably something tough me toughing them to buy it back. 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.600 So they probably just own the airport now, right. 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.840 But in their defense, I mean, Africa has been the 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:29.080 victim of like usurus financial transactions for a long time 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.000 because you know, most of Africa got independent in like 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:36.920 the sixties into the seventies. There have been multiple dictatorships 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.320 and all types of stuff and when they had when 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.760 they got independent, these European powers that were involved just 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.400 pulled out, didn't care. They left the countries in bad 0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:51.120 shape and the World Bank IMF came in and a 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.200 lot of those loans were with caviast that were not 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:58.200 great for the countries. And so China's doing this kind 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.200 of just kind of just stepping into that role bit 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.400 and to the country, they're like, at least these people 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.520 are building us stuff. So like there's positive and negatives 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:05.880 to it. 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:07.600 Like all things in life. 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.799 So and then also, like you said, I mean, it's 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.879 the politicians are the ones that actually have to sign 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.200 off on it. They're not putting a gun at anybody's 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.759 head and taking the land over. So ultimately, if they 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:23.640 are taking over Africa, it's the politician's fault, right you can't. 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.160 I mean, you know, they're going to do what's best 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.000 for their country, right like any country would do. America 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.879 has done that for generations. Every country would do that. 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.759 But it's up to the country to say no, all 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:39.040 money is not good money. 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.399 Right right, right, you got that country has to think 0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.480 long term and the leaders have think long term, and 0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.759 that's not always the case. And another reason why they 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:51.840 love Africa is because they've been building so much in 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.160 in China. They need materials for that, and there's materials 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.719 in Africa, every material so you know, you can't do 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.680 They realize you can't do what they did in the 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.400 eighteen hundreds nineteen hundred, come with guns and whatever, like let's. 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:06.239 Let's let me do a deal with you. 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.520 I'm gonna go and build this school for this hospital, 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.719 give you buses, do whatever. And by the way, like 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.279 that mining over there, like yo, like I see can 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:17.040 we get see I. 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.600 See Belgians doing some stuff there. 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.440 I see some British Like, why don't you just like 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.160 let us hold that ourselves because we are We're really 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:23.560 your friend. 0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:24.960 So yeah, that's that. 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:28.600 You know, they're they're they're definitely being strategic about it. 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.440 It's a gold continent for a reason, you know what 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.200 I mean. So in terms of like Americans of African descent, 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.640 what do you think long term as far as investments 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:37.280 in the continent. 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.239 Yeah, I think it's very very important for us to 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.920 be involved. I think there's a lot of opportunity. Like 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.200 we said on the side earlier, I think over fifty 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.480 percent of the population in Africa is. 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.000 Is under the age of twenty five. 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.360 I think that's I believe that's a stat that Africa 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.799 is one of the Africa in Asia all the only 0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:03.080 two continents where the POB is growing, like the US, Europe, Japan, 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.080 Like these are places where people are having less or 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.319 less children, so there's less and less people, whereas in 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.800 Africa is growing. So therefore obviously you have more talent 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.760 and also more consumption. Obviously this is a place where 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.239 people of African set, whoever whoever they are, is it's 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:19.800 more of as. 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:20.720 Looked upon an asset. 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:22.560 Like it's it's not as easy for us to just 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.640 drop in Belgium or drop in Malaysia and just open 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.640 up a business. But like I'm not gonna say, I'm 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.320 not saying it's easy in Nigeria or but Tswana, but 0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:35.279 it's easier, right, And I think it's just important, Like 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.680 you know, we've we we we come from that country, 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.920 that continent originally, everybody has a different story about how 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.080 they ended up here, right, and it would be I 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.319 think it's very important for us to like take take 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:47.600 part in it its resurgence. 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.800 Now for sure, I've seen Akon he said that he 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:56.560 encouraged all Americans, Black Americans specifically, to go back to 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.799 Africa and taking talent, like whatever talent you have, whether 0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:04.840 it be real estate, whether it be manufacturing, construction, music, whatever, 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.000 and established business there because he was like, you know, 0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.000 it's still a learning curve where it's still learning and 0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.560 we might have the expertise to help out. And like 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.520 you said, even if you've never been, it's still a 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.719 connection on a certain level. It's got to be a 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.920 connection for sure. So there was there was. 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.080 I was speaking to a gentleman in Atlanta stop and 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:27.920 he does work in Africa, and he was telling me 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.160 something this might be true or not if you can 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.359 prove like through like your ancestry dot Com or something 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.759 like that, if there's any ties to country in Africa. 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.600 Like you can get a dual citizenship within like six months. 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:38.400 Is that true or not? 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:43.480 I think I think Ghana was offering African Americans. I 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.400 think they still are citizenship. It was like part of 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.040 a campaign come home campaign that they were running. I'm 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.040 pretty sure Gana was doing that. I'm not familiar with 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.560 any other country, but I know Gana specifically was offering that, 0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.520 and I think they still are offering that. So shout 0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:58.080 out to Ghana. 0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.640 For sure. We gotta go back. We said that we 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.440 gotta gom sorry to go. 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.000 Yeah, we gotta go. We gotta do something out there. 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:08.440 It's a new way I saw on I g New 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.399 Year's like a lot of celebrities, a lot of people 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.600 are going to a crowd to something New Years. 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.520 So, yeah, hear me talking about that all the time. 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.879 He spends like the last two weeks of the year 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.400 in South Africa, right, Yeah, South Africa is beautiful. 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:21.960 Yeah, I want to go out to Africa period. You know, 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.040 there's so many different places in Africa. So yeah, we 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.319 definitely got touched. Can we talk about the. 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:34.280 Yeah, yeah, So am pessa is M stands for mobile 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:38.239 for mobile passa is money in Swahili and basically it's 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:41.120 mobile money. And so you know, obviously people use mobile 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.920 money all over the globe. In the US, we used 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.440 v we use cash app, but not to an extent 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.920 they use it out there. Like the first real successful 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.360 implementation of mobile money was in It was in Kenya, 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:58.000 and it's something that everybody uses. It's something that is 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.319 it's actually that's from like two thousand and eight, like 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.360 way back then, people were using money to sex message 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.520 to each other and it's it's still considered the most 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:12.480 successful implementation of mobile money. Like you, these are people. 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.200 These are you know, we've always had financial instruction infrastructure 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.440 in the US. You had bank accounts, you have credit cards, 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.840 et cetera. These are individuals that didn't even have that, 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:26.280 but they were able to transact digitally using their phones. 0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.640 Yeah, I'm sorry, cut you up, but yeah, I saw 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.680 it in sixteen minutes. It was crazy because they were 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.400 saying that like how successful it was, and they were saying, like, 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.640 you know, especially in a lot of the rural parts, 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:38.880 they can't get to a bank. Even if there is 0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.680 a bank, they can't get to it physically, So like 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.520 I forgot how much. But a large population, large part 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.960 of the population is unbanked and have bank acounts, never 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.360 had bank accounts, so not a mobile thing. But everybody 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.120 has to cell phone, even if it's like a cheap 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.279 cell phone, but they still have a cell phone. So 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:58.000 it made life tremendously easier when they developed that program 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.799 because not everybody uses that, so easy you don't have 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:01.800 to use the band. I think the guy is like 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:03.000 a billionaire who developed that. 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.440 Yeah, yeah, he was part of that, but also it 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:11.080 came together with a marriage between basically Seth Fari Khan, 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.880 which is like their Verizon, like their major cell phone provider, 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.600 and Equity Bank, which is a major bank. So it 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:19.200 was as if, you know, if I was to use 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.920 a parallel in the US, It's as if Verizon and 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.560 JP Morgan Chase came together and got along and they 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:30.040 just they created this huge digital digital thing in a 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.080 way because it's a it was emerging market and had 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.759 less infrastructure. You have fewer players, you had a few 0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.680 fewer regulatory hurdles, and it just came together seamlessly and 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:40.120 took over. 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.560 That's powerful, man. So what's your overall outlook. 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.000 On the content? 0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.040 I know you've been there a lot and your family 0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.840 half your wife is from Kenyon as well, and you 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.640 worked in the NBA and stuff like that on on Africa. 0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:58.960 What's your You're optimistic. I'm optimistic. I think similar to 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.520 like crypto, like you know, tread carefully. Like for instance, 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:07.200 if the people like from when I initially landed worked 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.640 in Africa to now, a lot of those currencies are 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:14.000 down like fifty percent, right, so they've they've you know, 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:17.120 there was a time and I would say the you know, 0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.320 early twenty ten, so like to on ten to twenty fourteen, 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.960 where all those currencies were booming, there was so much 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.839 investment happening. But there's a there's been a lot of 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:30.799 like political unrest. The economies have not taken off to 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.959 the level that they that people thought, and so there's 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.680 been a lot of uh, there's been a bit of 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:39.000 a pullback. That being said, that's good opportunity to put 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.960 money in. I just want to put all my money in. 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.040 And also I would make sure that I think it's 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.960 very important for you to understand the local market, right, 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.440 So like, for instance, like you build an app out 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.120 here in the US, I'm building iPhone first be gets 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.960 over there, Android is king, right, you got to know 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:55.719 what people are going through. You have to know that 0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:57.839 you know, one trouble we had, it's like all right, 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.000 well people, we want people to streaming movies or watch 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.239 schemes on their cell phone. In the US, my team 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:07.040 mobile data plan is unlimited. Over there, people are prepaid 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.440 and the infrastructure is not even that strong. So like 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.719 streaming those megabytes and to even watch a game like 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.200 you could kill somebody's whole monthly allotment of Watch one game, 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:19.640 all right, so. 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.920 They're more likely to wait until they could get to Wi. 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.799 Fi to download something, whereas we here don't care, right, 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.160 so you have to make sure if you would have 0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.239 built a product for them, you have to take those 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:30.640 things to account. 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:31.680 That's dope. 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.320 That's yeah, man, thank you for that information. 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:34.560 Man. 0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.600 We appreciate it, and we're gonna try This is actually 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.279 something that we want to try to do, uh, for 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.759 every every continent, so we all have like this was 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:46.560 an Africa addition, We'll have a Europe edition, We'll have 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.080 a South America. 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.360 Different countries, Caribbean edition. Yeah, yeah, different countries. 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:54.320 Because I feel like it's important a to acknowledge that 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.920 the people all over the world, and it's also important 0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:01.560 once again for Americans investment. Majority of our listeners are Americans. 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.160 But you got to expand your mind. You got to 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:06.600 see the world for what it is. You got to 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.640 see bigger than just your neighborhood and your city. It's 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:10.319 tough a lot of times we get so bogged down 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.640 in our day to day life that we don't see 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:16.400 past our ten mile radius or even two mile radius, 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.400 Like we just worry about where we're at but the 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:23.520 world moves quick and you know, business is done all 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.160 over the world and just people. You know, it's good 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.720 to experience different cultures and know what's going on outside 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.640 of it's just your neighborhood. So we could be that 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:35.160 window of the world and bring people that are knowledgeable about, 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.520 you know, different areas in the world and actually travel 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.040 to those places as well. That's one thing we're going 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.520 to do. We're on toll right now hitting different cities 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.440 in America, but we're gonna eventually we're gonna go overseas 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.600 as well. We're going to go to these places and 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.160 actually talk to people in those actual countries as well. 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.400 Hopefully we can bring some alumni with us. Yeah, now 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:53.719 your alumni. 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.960 Now show up for sure. So once again, if you 0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.080 got any opportunities speaking and gagings and feel free to 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.800 hit us up. Email us is the best, but email 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:06.960 dm us. We open it to traveling domestically and internationally. 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:08.480 We're going to be on a college tourist for We're 0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.759 gonna hit a couple of colleges. We've been announcing that 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.520 pretty soon. So yeah, we're going to try to spread 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.359 the word of financial literacy and education all over the world, 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.560 every language, every population. As I said, it's not something 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:23.880 that's just limited to one communities, but every every community 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.640 world man con that's that's the kind of vision that 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.200 we're looking at all over the world. So once again, 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.839 thank you. Can you tell the people your information how 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:33.640 to how to reach you? 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.960 Yeah, no, thank you for having me. This was fun. 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.160 I uh, you find me on Twitter as well as 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.920 I G It's Fritz Chain so f R d z 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:48.080 c h A I N. My name Fitz Charles. On 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.840 LinkedIn you can add me and that's it. 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:51.239 Yeah. 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.840 I'm always you know, my dam is open. I'm always 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.160 willing to chat with people, learn from people. 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.120 And what's your podcast too, It's. 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.800 Called coin Gamma. Yeah, we talked about crypto blockchain forty 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.919 eight episodes then yeah, yeah, exactly, thank you. So, yeah, 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:09.000 we talk about crypto blockchain. We needed some of the 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.080 biggest leaders in the space. Just talking about the different trends. 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.920 It's always something new going on. Right now it's about Facebook, 0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.200 so next week about it will be about something different. 0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:18.760 You're talking about Libra yeah, Libra. 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.520 Yeah, so yeah, check me out and definitely appreciate your 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:23.480 time for support that. 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.600 Thank you for coming Troy. Yeah, pet you on community. Yeah, 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.160 I'll patreon community. It always grows. So thank you to 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:31.520 everybody that's supporting. You know. 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.799 That's our proud to pay program again, rest in peace 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.359 to it. I want to give a big shout out 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:41.560 to Brenda. She's one of our patrons from California. She's 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:43.080 trying to link the dots so we can come out 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.280 to Oakland. So shout out to Brenda and everybody that's joined. 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.080 Like I said, you can join at any tier. There's 0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.960 about this five of them. But the more you support that, 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.600 the more we're gonna be able to do things like 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:54.800 travel internationally and domestically. 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:57.120 So continue to support that. We got some new merch. 0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.440 If you was on Instagram, you saw the eyl Versity 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:03.880 that's coming soon, so be on the look out for 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:05.960 that and some more some more other things that we got. 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:07.640 We're gonna put on that on the website as well. 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:09.200 The website. We about the redesign. 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.360 Yeah about the redesign the website Digital brands with a 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.920 Z shout out to them, Yeah, for sure. And the merch, Yes, 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.279 don't forget the merch. The merger is another way to 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.040 support the podcast. So we have merch up right now 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:21.960 or your Legia dot com and putting new merch up, 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.719 and we make we make statements with our clothes, and 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.480 we complain a lot about designers that you know are 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.080 openly racist, and you know, we still. 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:31.640 Wear the clothes. 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.000 So it's like you why not wear something that you 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:38.839 know is a it says something like all of our 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:42.680 clothes say something that you know is financially related and 0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.520 also you know it's from the culture. So that's a 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.040 way to support. And then we're on tour. As I 0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.320 mentioned previously, we we hit La was the first stop 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.640 we're doing like these network meeting greets. La was the 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.560 first stop, was crazy, and then we did Brooklyn. Brooklyn 0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:00.000 was really crazy, and then Atlanta and Atlanta was even more. 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.200 So we're just going to keep the momentum going. I 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.200 think the next stop that we're going to do is Houston. 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.040 Shout out to Ashtown, so Acetown man, we need your 0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.640 hoy to show your love. We announce that soon. 0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:13.200 We try and make it to the ranch y'all, so 0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:14.600 like y'all got to help us get there. 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.879 Jane Prince, what's up man? A little keykey, what's up, 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.120 don key? That's my guy. We got a lot of 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.799 good people that we connected with in Houston. So I've 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:24.879 never been to Texas, so I'm looking forward to going 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.560 to Houston for sure, and then we're probably through DMV 0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.600 Philly too. But if you want us to come to 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.440 your city, I know Chicago. We're kind of on the 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.040 cusp with that. A lot of people have been hitting 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.000 us about Chicago, but let us know, let us know 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:38.960 where we need to go. And the purpose of these 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.480 networking events is just to bring people together and to 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.480 meet new people and meet us, meet some of the 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.720 EYO alumni, but more importantly, meet people in your city, 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.799 exchange information, discuss business ideas. You never know who your 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:53.920 next business partner might be, never know who you can 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.680 make money with by homework, through different things of that nature. 0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:01.080 So relationships are very important. A lot of times we 0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.880 don't fully understand that. So that's the whole point of 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.439 these network meeting Greece that we're doing. And my book 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.240 tip of the Week is Howard French is the author 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.840 and the name of the book is China's Second Continent. 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:18.040 It's about Africa, China's influence in Africa. Fitting since we've 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:21.920 talked about that, so that's a good book, highly suggested, 0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.520 recommend it. So yes, thank you guys for rocking with us, 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:26.640 and we will see you next week. 0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:27.880 Peace. 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