1 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Lisa. Lisa, Lisa, you took the bait. And not only 2 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: did you take the bait, your boyfriend or soon to 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: be fiance, Jody also took the bait. I am almost speechless, 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: but actually have a lot to say about this. Okay, 5 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: So Lisa Haxe and who I've met? I met Lisa 6 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: in Miami with a group. Then I was on a 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: boat with fifty people to the Galapagos. She was there 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: with her husband. She was a life of the party. Fun. 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: We didn't hang out a lot, but like just was 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: admiring her like doll like bubbly nature, got a good energy, 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: got a good vibe, very nice, like no nothing other 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: than that. Then I met her in Aspen with her 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: now boyfriend, which is interesting because it's going to come 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: into play with what I'm about to say. And I 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: met him briefly. He was nice. It was funny because 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: he was wearing like ball Main or Fendy. He had 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: like a whole like F's ski outfit, which made me 18 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: think of like Beverly Hills, like was the abcdfg's And 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: I actually have one of the bal Main ski outfits, 20 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: but maybe it was Fendy. I don't know. I had 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: a lot of letters on it. So I met him 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: and she was there and I was there with Brinn, 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: and she did say to me like, oh, I have 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: to talk to you about divorce because I've been through 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: a brutal tenure, not garden variety, Hall of Fame divorce 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: and she's going through a bad divorce. But they do 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: have some interaction and it's not like at like restraining 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: order stalker police time. It's like back and forth, unpleasant 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: and people really don't seem to like Lenny because I 30 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: guess he was cheating and he did like the stereotypical 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: married or got with a very young woman, and I 32 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: don't know. There's just like a lot of noise and 33 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: we all know about it. Here's the thing about my 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: very public divorce. The details were not very public. The 35 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: only details that were made public were details that were 36 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: in a court case which was open to the media, 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: and then they regurgitated some of the things. But it 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: was never us going back and slinging garbage publicly, like 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I was in a very very intense ten year divorce 40 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: that really had custody at stake. And you can't play 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: games like Kanye did this with Kim where he was 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: being public about it. They both kind of were. They 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: were talking about it, and then he was talking about 44 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: where his kids go to school, and talking about not 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: being invited to a family party and like using the 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: court of public opinion as the actual court of law. 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: And it's a tricky and it's a dangerous game. You 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: do not fuck around with a custody and a financial 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: battle when you're dealing with judges and the court. Just 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: trust me on this. I am an expert on this. 51 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: You do not fuck around and play to the court 52 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: of public opinion. So what happened recently is something came 53 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: out in the post or page six, like either the 54 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: overall post or page six. Lisa's guy Jody, who I 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: met twice, I met them again another time with Paul 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: and Miami. So Lisa's boyfriend was engaged to a woman 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: like and was gonna be married three weeks before he 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: met Lisa, or some detail that like is very inside 59 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: baseball that nobody would care about or hang on to, Like, 60 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't care. I didn't even read about it. People 61 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: that are in the press always think that everybody's focusing 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: on the things that are written about them. I don't 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: have a Google a learner myself, So I'll have to 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: go google myself to find something that's been written bad 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: about me, and then I can find a lot. But 66 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: otherwise it just wouldn't be on my radar. And in 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, there's so much media that comes out 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: all the time that like it doesn't matter written about 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: me all the time, I don't care. I definitely would 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: not take the bait. But something's written in the post 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: that's like they're gonna be through the rint cycle tomorrow, 72 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: they'll be writing about something else, and it's great clickbait 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: for the post. But something was written in the post 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: saying that this guy who I don't even know his 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: full name, and he was engaged to someone and now 76 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: I know her name. Now I know his name Jody. 77 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 1: I didn't know it. I would have said was Lisa's boyfriend. 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: Now I know his name is Jody. Now I know 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: his ex fiance. Now I know he supported her for 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: a while. Now I know she recently tried to allegedly 81 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: try to extort money out of him because he told 82 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: us all. So the post wrote that he was engaged 83 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: to some woman, who fucking cares what happened? He this 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: guy Jody, who's not even in a custody battle. He's 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: in a relationship with Lisa, Like, Lisa shouldn't take the bait, 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: and Lisa shouldn't be getting into this mudship pit. Lisa 87 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: shouldn't have even written on the day that Lenny got engaged, like, 88 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: congratulations on your new engagement, you know, while you're still 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: legally married, Like it was a good moment that we 90 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: all laughed about. But you're bringing people into your divorce. Now, 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: you're adding gasoline to the fire, and now we all 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: know details we didn't know before. I didn't know who 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: Lenny's mother was. I didn't know about him still being 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: legally married. I don't frankly care, but she brought me 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: into it now. I don't know anything about these people. 96 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: I've never seen Miami, Okay, I think I might have 97 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: years ago saw one show about like a party that 98 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: someone happened. I saw the show. Oh and forree Wives, 99 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: I saw one episode, But like, I don't know who 100 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: any of these people are now. I know Jodie's her guy. 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: I know Robbia is his ex. I know there's a 102 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: woman who was engaged to Lennie who was on some 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: other person's podcast talking about it, and now this is 104 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: all being like fueled with gasoline by these other parties, 105 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: by this guy Jodi, who decided to on social media, 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: maybe on X or Instagram. I don't know how he responded, 107 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: but like at Lennie Hockstein, Meanwhile, I was with my ex, 108 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: but we were together for a while and then we 109 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: broke up, and then she wanted money from me, and 110 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: then I did this, and then I did that, and 111 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I have a daughter and I didn't want to be 112 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: involved in this, and we weren't going on that path. 113 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: And like he's talking to Lenny but with an audience, 114 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: Like he's saying to Lenny what he wants to say 115 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: with an audience. So I'm sitting there with the popcorn 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: and an audience now watching something I didn't even know 117 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: was on television. So now I know all these things. 118 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: And now Lenny's goes back and says that Lenny paid 119 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: for the Aspen vacation that they went on, which had 120 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: to be the vacation that I was on, because I 121 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: saw Lisa with her boyfriend in Aspen, and so now 122 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Lenny paid for that vacation only because 123 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Lenny responded with that, and then Jody responded back, oh really, 124 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: because Lenny said, well, you and your daughter come and 125 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: are living in my house, like meeting a house either 126 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: Lenny got for her or the other big house that 127 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: that Boobs bought, the big like you know, silicone implant 128 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: house that's fifty million dollars that's on Star Island that 129 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I knew about them building. And so is Jody and 130 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: or Jody and his daughter living in the Lenny Big 131 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Boob house or they living in the new condo that 132 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Lenny got for Lisa and her child. But I know 133 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: all this now, And then Lisa's responding back and Jody 134 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: is responding back saying, oh really, well I pay for 135 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: part of the place that Lisa lives in, where your 136 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: daughter lives, and like this is a mud slinging, fucking 137 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: popcorn festival that should be sponsored by Skinny Girl Popcorn, 138 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: like because I'm microwave popcorn, popcorn and Skinny Girl popcorn 139 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: like for the whole time minutes I'm reading the shit, 140 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, what is this guy Jody do? 141 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: And then they're like he has a net worth of 142 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: ten million dollars, which is something that Lenny's googling when 143 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: he's like, Oh, your kid is living in my house 144 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: with and like, why do I know the alleged networth 145 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: of this guy? Jody? You own some AI company? Why? Why? 146 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Why is the rewives podcast talking about Lenny and Jody 147 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: and Lisa Because they fucking took the bait and this 148 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: could get press pickup because they put on a show 149 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: with an audience and it's called shut the fuck Up everybody. 150 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: I love Lisa. I think she's wonderful. She actually was 151 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: one of the people that reached out to talk on 152 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: this podcast on Just B about her divorce, but then 153 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: she got muzzled by the network and the powers at 154 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: B and you know, people are like not allowed to 155 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: come on here. But like so I like her. But 156 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: it's called don't Rule Number one oh one is don't 157 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: get into the minutia and divorce, don't take the bait, 158 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: don't add gasoline to the fire. It's called the shut 159 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: the fuck up divorce program. Because you also are dealing 160 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: with a judge who might see this or hear about this. 161 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: This could come up in court. All of the stuff 162 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: that you guys are talking about back and forth, could 163 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: anything can happen. I'm not saying you're going to court. 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: Anything can happen in a courtroom, in a possible courtroom. 165 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: And Lenny has the money. He who makes the gold 166 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: sadly often has the rules. So he's got the money, 167 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: and he might have more power over this situation, no 168 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: matter how much people don't like him, if it doesn't 169 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: say legally that he pays for her lawsuit bills after 170 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: a certain point. Because even though he may be paying 171 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: her legal bills now, he could dispute that and he 172 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: could win. He could exhaust her in court. So do 173 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: not give the court of law any excuse to go 174 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: after you because you were playing to the court of 175 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: public opinion. And it's a shame on you on Lisa. 176 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: But the guy Jody, now he's dragged his daughter into it. 177 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Now I know his ex fiance's name. What the fuck? 178 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: It's one oh one in What Not to Do in 179 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: a divorce situation one oh one, So you can you 180 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: just that's it's no discussion. Call any divorce lawyer, call 181 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: any expert. They will all weigh in, and they have 182 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: before on many of my posts. Because this stuff I know, 183 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: and you cannot play to the court of public opinion 184 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: over the court of law, you will get burned. And 185 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: every action you take, every text you send, every email 186 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: you send, every post you make, every word you say, 187 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: every phone call you make, everything you do in front 188 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: of your kids or not, is going to come up 189 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: at some point and is a reflection on you. And 190 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: divorce and financial proceedings are gnarly and people get tripped 191 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: up on small, stupid mistakes. I have seen it. I 192 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: have at least five to ten examples where somebody overplayed 193 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: their hand and got caught up and got fucked because 194 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: of something very stupid, just because everybody on Twitter and 195 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: Instagram likes Lisa and doesn't like Lenny or TikTok and 196 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: Kelly Rutherford is an example of a woman the mother 197 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: on Gossip Girl, Blake Leveley's mother on Gossip Girl. She 198 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: lost custody of her kids, and she had the court 199 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: of public opinion. We all thought her husband was this 200 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: terrible guy. Maybe he was, I don't know. He looked 201 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: like the bad guy, and he looked like a person 202 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: trying to take kids away from their mother because we 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: don't know what's really going on, and she lost custody 204 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: if her kids, her kids had to move to France, 205 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: and she had to be on an airplane every week, 206 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: going while trying to work on a plane to France. 207 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: It was the most horrific thing. I couldn't imagine a 208 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: child being taken away from their mother. And I don't 209 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: know the details, and I don't pretend to know all 210 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: the details. Paperwork came out later. We all think we're 211 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: an expert on Lenny's divorce and Lisa's, and I'm sure 212 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: it's traumatizing for everyone. It's torture divorce. But no matter 213 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: what is going on in divorce, there is no world 214 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: or planet or universe or circumstance or situation that would 215 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: mean that that guy Jody taking the bait on something 216 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: that Lenny allegedly planted in page six about him should 217 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: be publicized. It's just a terrible idea.