WEBVTT - May Day Special: Labor Notes and the Future of Labor

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<v Speaker 1>All Zone Media. Welcome to a special May Day episode

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<v Speaker 1>of vicd app and here I'm your host, Mia Wong.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't too long ago that unions were finished. The

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of American workers in unions plunged towards the single digits.

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<v Speaker 1>The unions that survived, battered and broken shells of the

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<v Speaker 1>mighty behemists that shook the world for one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>embraced so called business unionism, which set out not to

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<v Speaker 1>conquer the world in the name of labor like its

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<v Speaker 1>great predecessors, or even really to bargain for higher wages,

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<v Speaker 1>but to make companies profitable in order to keep their jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>They took pay cuts and job losses without a fight,

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<v Speaker 1>forcing their membership into line, and effortlessly crushing the endless

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<v Speaker 1>slates of reform caucuses that sought to put the fight

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<v Speaker 1>back into the working class. Even the cutting edge of

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<v Speaker 1>Marxist theory, health time of unions was over. Workers were

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<v Speaker 1>too adomized, too divided, too far from the immediate processes

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<v Speaker 1>of production, from the discipline of the factory, and from

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<v Speaker 1>the massification of the city. To assemble the working class

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<v Speaker 1>in its old fighting form, there would be riots, To

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<v Speaker 1>be sure, barricades, blockades, occupations, but not strikes. Whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>working class did next, the age of the union was

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<v Speaker 1>over for much of the twenty tens. That prediction was

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<v Speaker 1>a smart bet. The bold proclamation of Wisconsin trade unionists

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<v Speaker 1>that organized labor would turn back the tide of the

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<v Speaker 1>CHEA Party failed to ruin under the failure of their

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to recall Wisconsin's hated union busting governor Scott Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>The CHA Party's march continued unimpeded, radicalizing even further in

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<v Speaker 1>the wake of the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen uprisings Ferguson

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore to produce not the victory of the working

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<v Speaker 1>class but Donald Trump. Even success stories like the rejuvenation

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<v Speaker 1>of the mighty Chicago Teachers Union AFT Local one by

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<v Speaker 1>a bold reform caucus called the Caucus of Rank and

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<v Speaker 1>File Educators or Corps, who waged a pair of unexpectedly

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<v Speaker 1>wildly popular strikes, was tainted by the reality of limited

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<v Speaker 1>wins and labor conditions in Chicago schools that remained appalling.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as the left returned in the wake of Occupy

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<v Speaker 1>Ferguson and the election of Trump, union membership continued to plunge,

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<v Speaker 1>and capitalists and Marxist alike continued to herald the union's demise.

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<v Speaker 1>They were wrong. History, it seems, delights in irony. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the dead enders, fighting hopeless battles and reform caucuses,

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<v Speaker 1>losing union election after union election. It was the Wobbles Fire,

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<v Speaker 1>losing campaign after losing campaign, desperately trying to organize the

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<v Speaker 1>unorganizable fast food and retail workers. It was rank and

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<v Speaker 1>file Marxist trade unionists waiting sixty long years, their comrades

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<v Speaker 1>dead and gone, for somebody, anybody, to hear their plans

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<v Speaker 1>for shutting down Capitol's logistics networks. It was Labor Notes,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen staffers compiling endless analyzes of labor struggles for a

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<v Speaker 1>crowd that couldn't have filled a baseball stadium. Who was right?

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<v Speaker 1>Unions are back, While still small compared to the height

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<v Speaker 1>of union power in the nineteen fifties, twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>saw a wave of massively popular strikes waged by unions

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<v Speaker 1>from the massive behemoths like the UAW in the Writers

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<v Speaker 1>Guild to tiny independent coffee unions whose members. Larger existing

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<v Speaker 1>unions are rather spin on than spend a single cent

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to organize. Only the director intervention of the President

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<v Speaker 1>to break a rail workers strike before it could start,

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<v Speaker 1>and the last second portrayal of Teamster's leadership stops twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three from being this largest strikewave of the modern era.

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<v Speaker 1>Basking in his triumphs and conspiring to win more was

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<v Speaker 1>labor Notes. Labor Notes is a curious beast. It is

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<v Speaker 1>simultaneously a journal that publishes news about labor struggles, a

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<v Speaker 1>network that brings together a group of disparate rank and

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<v Speaker 1>file union reform movements largely but not exclusively from the US,

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining a strong emphasis on solidarity and organizing with workers

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico, and a labor conference that runs every two years.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a relic of another time, whose time it seems,

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<v Speaker 1>has come again. Labor Notes was founded in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine as a way to coordinate and expand the interunion

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<v Speaker 1>connections formed to the United Mine Workers of America's nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine bituminous coal strike. It's one of the last

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<v Speaker 1>direct connections to the era where labor was strong unwittingly

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<v Speaker 1>tasked with keeping the flame of labor alive during the

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<v Speaker 1>neoliberal downpour, Two weeks ago, they held their largest conference

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<v Speaker 1>ever FO Five hundred people crammed into the Wyatt Regency

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<v Speaker 1>next to Chicago's O'Hare International Airport. At least a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people who tried to register were turned down. I personally

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<v Speaker 1>watched interested workers turned away at the door because the

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<v Speaker 1>venue's conference halls had already reached the mass capacity for

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<v Speaker 1>fire safety. Labor we can safely say is back. It

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<v Speaker 1>is returning to the South the great rock unions have

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<v Speaker 1>shattered upon for one hundred years. It's moving in new

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<v Speaker 1>directions towards service workers previously thought impossible to organize. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of all, it's moving towards something we'd almost forgotten was possible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's moving towards victory. The first thing you noticed about

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Notes is it's staggering diversity. Young punks and battle

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<v Speaker 1>jackets sat on benches next to old anti war protesters

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<v Speaker 1>from the sixties. Independent trade unionists and feminist activists in

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico rubbed shoulders with battle hearted American union nurses. White

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged longshore men and women plotted with young, queer

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon warehouse workers to maximize the power of logistics strikes.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw old industrial organizers from the sixties, passing down

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<v Speaker 1>lessons and tactics and stories of strikes that otherwise would

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<v Speaker 1>have vanished into the mists of history. Media workers fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for their first contract, the lowliest rank and file workers

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<v Speaker 1>chatting in breakout groups with union presidents. For all the

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<v Speaker 1>talk I've done in this show about how many union

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<v Speaker 1>organizers are trans, even I didn't expect to see this

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<v Speaker 1>many trans people, It's a cross section of the American

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<v Speaker 1>working class come to fight, and that, above all, is

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<v Speaker 1>what this Labor Notes conference was about. Fighting. The most

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<v Speaker 1>direct conflict came on the first day of the conference,

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<v Speaker 1>when Palestinian union activists called for a pro Palestine demonstration

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<v Speaker 1>outside the hotel. The cops arrested three people in an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to clear the street. This, rather predictably, was a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible idea. Instead of backing down, the crowd of several

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<v Speaker 1>hundred union activists almost immediately surrounded the lone car and

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<v Speaker 1>demanded they let their prisoner go. What happened next, to

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<v Speaker 1>use a technical term, fucking ripped. A bunch of kids

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<v Speaker 1>had a rave to the changing police sirens. A fifty

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<v Speaker 1>year old white dude from the electrical worker stood next

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<v Speaker 1>to me, a Chinese Transzoman from a podcast union, a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of longshore men, teamsters, staffers from unions. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe even if I told you Palestinian trade union activists,

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<v Speaker 1>nurses punkt from independent unions. No one else in the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd could have named. An entire mass of unionists stood

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<v Speaker 1>their ground and refused to let the cops take one

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<v Speaker 1>of ours. A tradeswoman with drums marched around the police

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<v Speaker 1>car and we're all saying, which side are you on?

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<v Speaker 1>After two hours, the police gave up to a crowd

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<v Speaker 1>screaming Union power at the top of our lungs. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an incredible display of solidarity that set the tone

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the event. We were going to

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<v Speaker 1>fight the bosses together and fuck them if they came

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<v Speaker 1>for us. This is not to say there weren't divisions.

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<v Speaker 1>A group of protesters broke away from the cop car

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<v Speaker 1>to demand that Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, the darling of

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Teachers' Union, come tell the cops to let

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<v Speaker 1>our people go. Now. Whether or not this would have

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<v Speaker 1>worked is up to some debates. These cops were not

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago police departments. They were the cops of Rosemont which

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<v Speaker 1>is technically a separate entity from the city of Chicago. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Notes staffers and securities tried to stop the protesters

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<v Speaker 1>from reaching Brandon Johnson and ended up throwing punches at

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<v Speaker 1>the protesters. As to quote one observer, union brother fought

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<v Speaker 1>union brother. This fight reveals one of the important tensions

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<v Speaker 1>in the movement. Should unions continue to back imperfect center

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<v Speaker 1>left politicians in exchange for some political benefits, or should

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<v Speaker 1>they take a hard line against politicians who betray their

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental political principles. Brandon Johnson is a microcosm of the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>On the one hand, he was elected with enormous resource

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<v Speaker 1>expenditure from the Chicago teachers' unions. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been locking immigrants into berculosis ridden camps as the

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<v Speaker 1>city lurches from crisis to crisis. Even many of Chicago's

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<v Speaker 1>other unionists were never happy with with him in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, as he failed to use his previous position

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<v Speaker 1>to come to the aid of striking nurses. When the

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<v Speaker 1>two points of view collide, there's a fight on a

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<v Speaker 1>national level. The conflict is the question of Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>in Palestine. At Labor Notes itself, there's strong support for Palestine.

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinian solidarity panels were packed to the rafters with workers

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<v Speaker 1>from every sector imaginable and activists from across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw UAW workers deeply unhappy with their union leadership's

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<v Speaker 1>decision to endorse Biden, a decision made by maybe five

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<v Speaker 1>members of an executive committee with how to vote from

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<v Speaker 1>the union. Theren lies the issue, as much as Labor notes,

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<v Speaker 1>represents the bleeding edge of the labor movements. UAW president

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Fein, fresh off the uaw's astounding seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 1>victory at a Volkswagen factory in Chattanooga, gave the conference's

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<v Speaker 1>closing address. The remain means massive bastions of conservatism and

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<v Speaker 1>the labor movement, who have actively fought against even statements

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<v Speaker 1>on Palestine, much less concrete actions. Unions are still weak

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<v Speaker 1>and the positions of activists within them are still tenuous.

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<v Speaker 1>Even more favorable shops have yet to turn broader popular

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<v Speaker 1>support among rank and file workers for Palestine into substantive

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<v Speaker 1>strike actions, and it's deeply unclear to me if any

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<v Speaker 1>such action is possible at all. My pessimism on labour's

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<v Speaker 1>willingness and ability to stop the genocide in Palestine, a

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<v Speaker 1>pessimism reinforced by watching the rapid spread of student campus

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<v Speaker 1>occupations while labor remains silent or perhaps more precisely dormant,

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<v Speaker 1>is broadly intention with my optimism and effectively everything else

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw there. There was incredible organizing going on

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<v Speaker 1>at labor notes. People are coordinating rank and file links

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<v Speaker 1>between unions whose staffers and leaderships hate each other for

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<v Speaker 1>grudges whose origins have passed into the mists of time.

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<v Speaker 1>There was quite serious talk about plans to line up

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<v Speaker 1>contracts to expire in twenty twenty eight to effectively create

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<v Speaker 1>a miniature general strike, or perhaps more precisely, to create

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<v Speaker 1>a version of what's called the Spring offensive in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>Spring and offensive are the same word in Japanese, and

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<v Speaker 1>so labor unions decided to have their contracts expire in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring, thus maximizing the power of their strikes. This

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<v Speaker 1>effort to have contracts aligned in twenty twenty eight is

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<v Speaker 1>broadly speaking, a larger version of the Spring Offensive. We

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<v Speaker 1>will cover this more in a later episode. For now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's enough to say that this cushions and

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<v Speaker 1>organization were quite serious, and there was significant enthusiasm, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as discussions of the potential difficulties of getting people's

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<v Speaker 1>contracts to actually align. People are organizing to bring their

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<v Speaker 1>unions together on a sectoral base to share resources, coordinate,

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<v Speaker 1>set standards for contracts, and generally help each other more

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<v Speaker 1>effectively oppose the bosses and unions that rule them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Notes has also from the beginning been an incubator

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<v Speaker 1>for reform movements inside of unions, attempting to rest control

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<v Speaker 1>from corporate administrative caucuses. These reform movements almost always lose.

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<v Speaker 1>The last fifty years is littered with defeats in union

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<v Speaker 1>election after union election with sub ten percent turnout, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet little by little, these groups are starting to win.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from a number of smaller rank and file

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<v Speaker 1>efforts that had successfully taken control of their unionians. The

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<v Speaker 1>first major victory was a rank and file slate taking

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<v Speaker 1>over the management of notoriously corrupt Clickish Teamsters. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>have my issues with the new Teamsters leadership too. There

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<v Speaker 1>are something like two entire hours of this show dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to how angry rank and file teamsters were over the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that UPS workers didn't go on strike last year

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<v Speaker 1>due to their leadership cutting a deal with management. But

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<v Speaker 1>on a broader level, the victory of the Teamsters reformed

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<v Speaker 1>slates and the defeat of one of the oldest union

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if administrative caucus.

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<v Speaker 2>Is really a that's a bit of a euphemism for

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<v Speaker 2>the ups sort of corrupt leadership, dictatorship, but their victory

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<v Speaker 2>on a broader level was a sea change in American unionism.

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<v Speaker 1>Their victory was followed by the victory of Sean Fain

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<v Speaker 1>in the UAW, a man who, as much as he's

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<v Speaker 1>angered members by endorsing Joe Biden walked into Labor Notes

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<v Speaker 1>and gave a speech about the class war and the

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<v Speaker 1>authoritarianism of corporate greed. Certainly there was much to annoy

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<v Speaker 1>trade activists concerned with Palestine in the sense that his

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<v Speaker 1>central metaphor labor was the arsenal of democracy. Was in

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<v Speaker 1>bad taste as he described the unions that he leads

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<v Speaker 1>as the successors of Liberator B fifty two bombers, which not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not precisely the metaphor ed shoes, as your

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<v Speaker 1>own members are protesting the bombs following over Gaza. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, if a giant speech about the

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<v Speaker 1>class war and the need to organize across borders is

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<v Speaker 1>now the conservative wing of progressor trade unionism. The future

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<v Speaker 1>is bright. The kind of militant union actions we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>over the past year have coalesced into a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>strategy of fight as you build. It is based on

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<v Speaker 1>a very basic strategy that you would think unions would

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<v Speaker 1>have already been doing. However, Comma, see everything I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>said about administration, administrative caucuses, and business unionism and corporate unionism.

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<v Speaker 1>The strategy is, if you win things for people, more

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<v Speaker 1>of them will join unions. This strategy is already bearing

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<v Speaker 1>fruit in Chattanooga and has international implications as well. We

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<v Speaker 1>heard from organizers that workers in Mexico and China were

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<v Speaker 1>keenly watching the UAW strikes, and for good reason. These

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<v Speaker 1>strikes are ultimately their fight too, and slowly but surely

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<v Speaker 1>workers across the world are starting to realize it. The

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<v Speaker 1>degree of Internet nationalism at this labrynes was remarkable. I

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<v Speaker 1>came into an early China panel fully expecting the same

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of praise for the CCP that I've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>other leftist events held in the city of Chicago, most recently,

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of fiasco China panel held at Socialism Conference

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<v Speaker 1>that degraded into an argument about whether or not Brazil, Russia, India,

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<v Speaker 1>China and South Africa socialist. Here there was none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, there were some slightly weird German maoist defending

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<v Speaker 1>the Cultural Revolution, but on the other hand, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>any defense of Chinese capitalism or their failed bankrupt model

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<v Speaker 1>of corporate unionism. On top of cross border organizing sectorially,

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<v Speaker 1>the conference has a deep and ingrained pro immigrant position.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Fayn is probably the most high profile political figure

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen actually discussing the horrific treatment of migrants at

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<v Speaker 1>the border right now and taking time to remind everyone

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<v Speaker 1>that immigrants are just workers trying to find a better life. This, however,

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<v Speaker 1>makes his support for Joe Biden, the butcher of Yakumba,

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<v Speaker 1>even more questionable. Still, you can see the wheels of

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<v Speaker 1>history turning. You can see it there in the muffled

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<v Speaker 1>buzz of conversations drifting through hallways, in the roar of

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<v Speaker 1>the cheering crowd, in the bright laughs of co conspirators

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<v Speaker 1>who moments before were strangers, and the drowsy chatter of

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<v Speaker 1>abortion workers who let a transwoman sleep on their floor

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<v Speaker 1>to hide from the police in the chance of one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred workers refusing to let the cops take one of

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<v Speaker 1>their own. You can see the outline of the great Leviathan,

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<v Speaker 1>the ruling class thought buried stone dead in the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see the working class waking from its day's slumber,

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<v Speaker 1>shaking the sleep from its eyes and the dirt from

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<v Speaker 1>its back for the first time in decades. Hear the

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<v Speaker 1>clatter and the roar as it tests its chains. The

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<v Speaker 1>great behemoth is beginning, just beginning, to assemble the ironwill

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<v Speaker 1>and terrible power necessary to turn its dreams into reality,

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<v Speaker 1>to break its chains and shatter its cage, and reclaim

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<v Speaker 1>the world it built with its blood and sweat and tears.

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<v Speaker 1>That day is not today, it's not tomorrow, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in my life, it could be the

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<v Speaker 1>day after that this has been It could happen here.

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