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On the latest episode of Magic Pod Squad, 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: we catch up with the head coach of the. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Orlando Magic Jamal Mosley, and what a terrific conversation it was. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: He recaps his summer, his busy summer, part of which 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: included working with Eric Spolstrauf and all the terrific coaches 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: that are part of Team USA. 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: What he was hoping these. 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: Guys would work on the entire summer, some of the 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: changes in additions that they brought to their games. How 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: big is this year for guys like Powo ban Caro 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: Fronz Wagner, Jalen Suggs. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: The core the heart of his team. 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: As we move forward, the addition of Contavious Caldwell Pope. 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: What has he brought to the Orlando Magic organization? Spirited 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: practices topic, hitians at every position. Coaches dream for this 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Orlando Magic team as we go into season thirty six 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: of Orlando Magic Basketball. Enjoy our conversation with Magic head 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: coach Jamal Moseley on our latest installment of Magic Pod Squad. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: So those fawns long enough, they're Orlando Magic. 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 4: This is Cole Anthony, this is Jennings Suggs, this is 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: Paulo man Carroll the Orlando Magic and you're. 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Listening to the Pod Squad And welcome. 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Everyone to another episode of Orlando Magic Pod Squad. We 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: got Dante Marcatelli, David Steele, we have Jake Chapman, we 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: have George Golanze. That's all we can fit in here, Coach, 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: It's all we can. We have six more hosts lined up, 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: but this is all we can get in here. 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 5: Podcast with five people is usually pretty successful, right there. 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: That's a big market for that is here. 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 6: Right. 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: What do you think of the new digs? We got 38 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 3: a new studio. 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: I mean incredible, right, you know, I love the green 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: screen so you can't tell. 41 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: What's what's not behind it? We're looking at it behind them, 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: not right? You see the stuff back here? This is 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: stuff that is interesting. 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Hey, I want to start with this before we get 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: into it. You have there's a different energy during the 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: off season, right, You're walking around this building and everybody's 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: kind of relaxed. Then you have training camp and it 48 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: ramps up a little bit. Then there's there's an energy 49 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: that George has during the preseason that kind of kicks. 50 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: Up a notch. Yeah, I've noticed that around the building. 51 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: You've noticed that it, right, Yeah. 52 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: And then there's Mets playoff baseball energy that George has, 53 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: Right do you notice that? Like it's his pre season 54 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: energy and then playoff meta. 55 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: To be fair, he hasn't seen it before because it's 56 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 5: been a while. 57 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: It has been a while, but I hadn't seen that 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: energy before. It's been a little different. It was good, 59 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: it was terrible a couple days ago. It was really 60 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: good yesterday. 61 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: What was it rough? A couple of days ago? And 62 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: then we're gonna find out what it's going to be 63 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: like pretty soon. 64 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 5: Here we're recording this before Game three, right, and I 65 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 5: just want to now, I was fine. I was keeping 66 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 5: to myself. I thought for the most part. 67 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: No, he wasn't talking about the energy, about the serious 68 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: sweep andre were going. And we're in the middle of 69 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: a practice and he's sitting there and got his phone, 70 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: but he's paying attention to what's going on. 71 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: It was actually that it was actually the game was 72 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 5: actually before the game, before the atonio. 73 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: So that makes it worse, but that's okay. 74 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 5: I had my I had my AirPod in and I 75 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: had the phone. 76 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: The game was on. 77 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 5: It's a five o'clock start, so. 78 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: If you needed something that wasn't gonna happen, it was. 79 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: He was not Joe. 80 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: Luckily, Joel was in Florida and Sano and Coach Mosley 81 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 5: says to me, wow, you are really not locked in 82 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: at all? And I pulled out my phone. 83 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: I said, no, I'm locked in. 84 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 5: But then but then all of a sudden, you know, 85 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: we the Mets advanced to the NLCS and the Dodgers 86 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: advanced to the NLCS, and we're in the office here, 87 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 5: and unprovoked by me, Coach Mosley emerges from his office 88 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: and he says, hey, uh, you know you're we're playing 89 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: that you're playing the Dodgers. You want a little friendly wager, 90 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 5: which I did not expect because I didn't know there 91 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 5: was any ties with Coach Moseley and the Dodgers and 92 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: I said, yeah, sure, we're up. I'm up for whatever. 93 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 5: I'm feeling like we could beat the world right now, 94 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: what do you know? What do you? And then coach 95 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: Ergy But then Coach Bosley mentioned what the what the 96 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: wager was? And first he looked at me and he goes, 97 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: what was that? Was that a little too rich for you? 98 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: And I had remind and we were in different tax brankets, 99 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: and then uh, but what we have a we have 100 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: a wager going. I got the good thing is I 101 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 5: got the I got the socks going. 102 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: To wow, wow, these are all there? 103 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all in doing socks. By the way, major 104 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: good luck are there. 105 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: Metsa are one of our training staff members. 106 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: He gave me these right before, right out of his 107 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: clause game. 108 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 6: What I like is you're matching pajamas. 109 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be good. That would be very good. 110 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: Do you have any team socks? Teams inquiring over the years. 111 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 6: So I'm not a face painter, I'm pretty sure George is. 112 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: David's a chess. 113 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: He likes the chest paint you. 114 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 5: Right on his chest. 115 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: Well, I think there was that. There will be an 116 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: excitement for you if you can get to the World Series. 117 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: I think we can certainly say that there was an 118 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: energy in the building today. Coach, Right, so this is 119 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Why don't you let everybody kind of behind 120 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: the scenes of what happened in practice. You've had a 121 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: great training camp, you've had a great preseason, and the 122 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: guys are really the guys really had a lot of 123 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: fun today too. 124 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: No, the guys had a great day today. 125 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: The one thing we've been working on with them is, 126 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 4: you know, their level of communication, how they communicate to 127 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: one another real time on the floor. So they had 128 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: an in depth film session. I have to, you know, 129 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: preface it with that. Because of what happened, you might 130 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: think we're not practicing. So we had a good film Now, 131 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 4: we had a great film session. They do a great job. 132 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: Our coaches do a great job of breaking down the 133 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: film for them. They discuss it amongst themselves exactly the 134 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: things that they see and how they can communicate better 135 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: with one another the things that they're seeing in the 136 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: real time scrimmage from yesterday. And then I, you know, 137 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: I offered the deal on the table. I said, hey, Franz, 138 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: if you make this half court shot, you guys can 139 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: go home. 140 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: Now I've been in the League for. 141 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: Eighteen years and going on nineteen. I think I don't 142 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: know that I've ever seen one shot being made to 143 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: where hey, the practice is done, Like there's been a 144 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 4: couple of times. Hey, everybody gets a shot to try 145 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: it and maybe that'll happen. Franz stepped up half court, 146 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 4: lined it up, took the jumper. As soon as and 147 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: I'm like it's going in, it dropped and it was 148 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: like everybody sprinted out. We probably had six guys bring 149 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 4: it in and say hey, everybody else was out of 150 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 4: the building, but it was. 151 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: There was a lot of energy. But that tells me 152 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: a lot. 153 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: These guys have been working their tails off, so it 154 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: says a lot that they enjoy each other. They had 155 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: a great time and you know, everybody's high five and 156 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: Franz once he got back to the locker room kind 157 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: of as a thank you. 158 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 5: Easy to say that that's the loudest that this particular 159 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 5: building has ever been, I'd. 160 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: Say, yes, yeah, there was a level of excitement. Shook 161 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: the third floor shook. 162 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were, they were, they were excited. It was 163 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: I mean, again, they've they've worked their tails off. You know, 164 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: it's not having the New Orleans game and being able 165 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: to get more practice time and trying to find and 166 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: what to do in the middle of that. So we've 167 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: had a few scrimmages which have been fantastic, and so 168 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: these guys have been working and so that's who they are, 169 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: that's what you know, that's what our coaches have pushed 170 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: them to do, and it's been fantastic with that. 171 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 6: What are the extra challenges been with the New Orleans 172 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 6: game getting canceled and you haven't played a game and 173 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 6: what nine or ten days, you've got Philadelphia coming up 174 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 6: on Friday. 175 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we really looked at it as an unbelievable opportunity, 176 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: you know, because a lot of these teams are there, 177 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: are playing the games, but they're not playing. 178 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: The guys major, major minutes. 179 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: So I think for us, it's been able to go real, 180 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: live scrimmages. Everybody get in the line of conditioning that 181 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: they need. You talk about our defense and what we're 182 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: trying to do, and it's it's putting a challenge to 183 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: our offense and making our offense that much better because 184 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: you know the sets, you know what guys are running, 185 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: you know what you're trying to execute. And for us 186 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: to be able to still execute it the way we 187 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: have been says a lot about both the offense and 188 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: the defense together. 189 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: And I keep going back to. 190 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: The communication that these guys are having with one another 191 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: when they're able to do it again each other every 192 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: single day. Now, there's some chippiness that's going to keep 193 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: coming because of that, But that's good, That's exactly what 194 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: we want. 195 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 7: Are you starting to see kind of new roles emerge 196 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 7: from some of your veterans, maybe guys who you brought 197 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 7: in or some of the guys who you've developed. 198 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: As far as that communication. 199 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: Goes, absolutely, I think KCP has been wonderful, just you know, 200 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: speaking of after yesterday's practice, he brought the huddle in 201 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: UH to talk to these guys about the scrimmage, some 202 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: things that happened during it, the way we have to 203 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: communicate with one another, and I think those are the 204 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: big pieces that, you know, what he brings to the table, 205 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: not just from his experience of playing and you know 206 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: the body of work, but his voice being able to 207 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: express that. Polo and Franz have been tremendous in what 208 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: they're asking guys to do and how they want to lead, 209 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: you know, this group and knowing the responsibility that they're 210 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 4: taking on, you know, as the stars of this team. 211 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 5: How how have you noticed you you kind of touched 212 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 5: on it. Polo and Franz they now, you know, Franz 213 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 5: going into his fourth year and third year, I've noticed 214 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 5: from Afar that they have definitely been more vocal. They 215 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 5: both seem not that they weren't comfortable before, but they 216 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 5: seem to have a new level of comfort. Yeah, and 217 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 5: have you seen that? 218 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 219 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 4: I think it's when you talk about guys stepping into 220 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: who they are. I think a lot of times when 221 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: you step into the league, you're trying to figure out 222 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: your own space, your own place, how do you fit, 223 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: how do you fit on a team? And with this 224 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: group being so close, it's easy to just allow other 225 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: people to communicate and talk, which we do. But I 226 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 4: think now that they've emerged throughout our team as well 227 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: as the league, as these guys are are capable of 228 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: putting things on their shoulders to get you to a 229 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: next level, they feel and understand that responsibility. So they're 230 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: a lot more comfortable and the guys on the team 231 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: want them to do that, they need them to do that, 232 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: and they're okay and comfortable with them speaking up because 233 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: they've seen the body of work. They know how much 234 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: these guys care, and they understand how much they want 235 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: to win and help these guys get to a next level. 236 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you'd rather have it that way though, too right. 237 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 5: I mean that it's coming from them as opposed to you. 238 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I really truly believe this. 239 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: And in any great team that goes far, that does, 240 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: you know, special things, is a player led team. And 241 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: then the other side of that is great players make 242 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: those around them great. 243 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 244 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: There's one team that you can say that has done 245 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: major things that the star of the team was the 246 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: one that was leading the pack, and I think we 247 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: have that with this group of group of young men. 248 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: Now we're all pulling in the same direction, wanting the 249 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: same thing and working together towards it. That's why we 250 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: keep emphasizing the communication, how you talk to your teammate, 251 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: what you're expressing, how you're trying to get it done. 252 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: And those two are doing a tremendous job along with 253 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: Jalen in that regard of what they're trying to communicate 254 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: to the team about what we're trying to accomplish. 255 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Kentavious was great. He pulled me aside. He said, my 256 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: friends call me Kenny. You can call me kavious. 257 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: Can you clear up what you call him? What do 258 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: you guys call Is there a nickname? Is a KCP? 259 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: Well, for over the years I've always called him k 260 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: CPU from when he's been in the league because that 261 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: was just what he was known as. And then now 262 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 4: all of a sudden we said, you can call him Canny. 263 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: I think it was you at one of the matter 264 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: you but like he wants to be called Kenny. That's 265 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: a shock to me, so I started, I'm calling them Kenny. 266 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: Now it'll mix between k CP and Kenny at times 267 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: during practices. It's Kenny more than anything, and he responds 268 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: to all of them. 269 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 6: So should we ask him for on air purposes which 270 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 6: he prefers, or do you have any idea. 271 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: I'd probably ask him on air for on air purposes. 272 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: That's probably good ideas he might he might like to 273 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: call him. 274 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, his friends call him Kenny, but you want 275 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: to if he turns it over, you can call him 276 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: his whole name. 277 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: But. 278 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: Full name J. 279 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 6: You can call him Marj. Let me ask you about 280 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 6: the competition between players, because I'm watching the team scrimmage 281 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 6: in the preseason, j I and Pallo are matched up. 282 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 6: What does that do for Palo Banco that every day 283 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 6: he's pounding in there against Jonathan Isaac and vice versa 284 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 6: For Ji. 285 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: I think it is such a beautiful thing to watch. 286 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: It is making them both so much better. And you know, 287 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: you use the phrase, you know, iron sharpens iron, but 288 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: you talk about Ji, who you know ultimately can be 289 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: a defensive Player of the Year candidate going against you know, 290 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: an All Star, and every day it's making him better. 291 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 4: You know, the shots that he has to get, the 292 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: efficiency he has to have, the body and the size 293 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: that both of those guys have going against each other, 294 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: it's only making both of them just that much better. 295 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: Because I don't know that there's too many other defenders 296 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: out there like Jonathan Isaac, and the way in which 297 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: Polo is able to play and how he moves offensively, 298 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: I don't know that there's many guys like him, and 299 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: so I think it's just it's the best of both worlds, 300 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: you know, for this team and for each other. 301 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 7: Coach, you've talked a lot in your time here about 302 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 7: consistency in your messaging to the guys now, and as 303 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 7: the father of an eighteen month old can attest to 304 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 7: the importance of consistency and messaging now with expectations and 305 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 7: with the playoff trip last year and trying to kind 306 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 7: of level up once again. 307 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: Does it change as. 308 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 7: Far as what you're messaging to them or is there 309 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 7: danger to that? 310 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: No? I think we talk about embracing the expectations. That's 311 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 4: one big thing, but more than anything with this group, 312 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: as you're trying to develop something that's lasting a long 313 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: time versus just you know, a flash in the pan. 314 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: You want to talk about the process. Are you hitting 315 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 4: all the marks of the process of what we're trying 316 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: to do, the shot quality that we take, how we 317 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 4: want to defend. And this started when we first got here. 318 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: What was sustainable for no matter who we had on 319 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: the floor. 320 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: And now you know, you. 321 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: Talk about what Jeff and his group, Jeff Weltman and 322 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: his group have brought in with the size, the length, 323 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: the defensive minded, the IQ all those things now placed 324 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: together with you know, the things that we said, we're 325 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: sustainable both offensively and defensively. Now you're building something that 326 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: lasts a long time, and that's what we is more 327 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: important than just a quick hit and say, hey, we 328 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: did this for this moment. We want something that these 329 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: guys can hang their hat on for the next five 330 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: to ten years. 331 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 5: With the group being almost the same throughout your tenure, 332 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 5: do you have to go back, like say, in the offseason, 333 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 5: kind of recap what you've said and make sure that 334 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: like you're not or either either staying consistent with what 335 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 5: you said, which you'd have to do with certain things, 336 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: or not doubling down on something that maybe you're like, 337 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: all right, well, I can't pull that card again, I 338 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 5: gotta try a new one. 339 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: It's interesting, Yeah, with that with this group, you know, 340 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: they get tired of that same voice or the same statement, 341 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: and so that's why you focus on the process of 342 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: things more than you focus on just a word that 343 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: you said in that moment. And with us, you know, 344 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: I'll just take the defense for example. You know, we 345 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: want to protect the rim, we want to defend without filing, 346 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: we want to apply pressure, we want to contest all shots. 347 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: That's going to be who we are no matter what. 348 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: So you find different ways to say it, You find 349 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: different examples to say to say it in now offensively, 350 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: you know we want to attack the paint. You know 351 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: we've led the league, you know top five and free 352 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: throw attempts per game. You know you want to be 353 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: able to knock down feat set threes. Those are the 354 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: things we're going to constantly say because it's part of 355 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: who we are. It's just different ways to say. It 356 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: is very important, but it's still part of the process 357 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: of what we're trying to accomplish. 358 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: It's interesting and you know this, when we've talked about this, 359 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: you know better than anyone forty seven games last year. 360 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: You don't start this year at forty seven right now 361 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: that you're not going to sneak up on anybody. Everybody 362 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: knows who you are, playoff team and all that. So 363 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: for it to be a successful season, to get back 364 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: to the playoffs, to maybe potentially host the first round, 365 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: what in your mind needs to happen? What are you 366 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: stressing to this group right now? 367 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: It's a mindset shift. 368 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: I think it goes from thinking you can to believing 369 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: you are. And I think that's a big portion for 370 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: this group is that you know, you think you can 371 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: get there to playoffs. Like you talk about the year 372 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: we won thirty four games, it was close to the 373 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: play in we think we can get there. Then you 374 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: make the playoffs and you're like, Okay, we belong here, 375 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: and now it's like we belong here, but just know 376 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: the fact that we know we belong in this situation. 377 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: Others know that too, and so your mindset shift has 378 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: to go from trying to prove that you're belonging there 379 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: till we are here in this moment, and now teams 380 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: are coming and recognizing that. So we have to know 381 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: you can't take any game lightly. And now we saw 382 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: that in the details of the difference between home court 383 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: and you know, not having home court, and those are 384 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: the games in the middle of the season that you 385 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: may be tired, you may be exhausted, and may be 386 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: a back to back, but that's an important game for 387 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: you to get and that's the mindset shift that you 388 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: have to have that changes with this group. 389 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 6: You know, George mentioned just a minute ago a continuity 390 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 6: with regard to players, the coaching staff as well. Watching 391 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 6: you coach the team. It's been interesting for us observing 392 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 6: the first year with a young group. I felt like 393 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: you were really building relationships with people, and now you 394 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 6: coach them a little differently. Talk about how you've adjusted 395 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 6: the way you coach the guys from YR one to 396 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 6: now you're four. 397 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: Well, just coming in, you don't really know all the guys, 398 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: so you have to build the relationships. And I ultimate 399 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: we're in the relationship business, and so they have to 400 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: understand how much we care about them as people first 401 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: and foremost, and I don't think that will ever change no. 402 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: Matter what year it is. 403 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: But now that they and we've had the same group 404 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: for so long, they already know how much we care. 405 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: And so now it's about how do you understand what 406 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: we're trying to accomplish because everything I say now it's 407 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: not a personal thing. It's because we have a process 408 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: in place of what we're trying to accomplish. And once 409 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: they can see that, knowing that there's care factor in 410 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 4: the background, now it's like, Okay, I know that this 411 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: is not. 412 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: A personal thing. 413 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: This is what we need to do to accomplish the 414 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 4: goals that we set forth for ourselves. So now it 415 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: is more of I wouldn't say hands off, but there's 416 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 4: a level of empowerment that we've given to our coaches 417 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 4: to be able to communicate to these guys what it 418 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: is they need to do. And then the other level 419 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: of empowerment to the players when they've said what they 420 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: want to do and how they want to establish doing it. 421 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: Now it's about them taking ownership in all of it 422 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 4: and then kind of stepping out of the way because 423 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: this is their journey and. 424 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: Moving into something great and. 425 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: They have to be able to experience that. If you 426 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: have someone that's constantly talking over them, not allowing them 427 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: to have a voice, it doesn't allow them to feel 428 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: what it is to be a great team because now 429 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 4: it's me saying it versus them feeling and experiencing it 430 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: like they did the playoffs. 431 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 7: What did you learn about your team in the postseason 432 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 7: last year? 433 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: A lot? I think there was. There were a ton 434 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: of lessons. 435 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: You talk about the resiliency that we talked about that 436 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: they had all year. You know, you're never out of 437 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 4: a game, and that was shown throughout the year of 438 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: how how much we fought to that final buzzer went off. 439 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: You know. 440 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: Then you go into the playoffs going to Cleveland down 441 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 4: two games, and you know most teams were you know, 442 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: most people are counting you out. And then it goes 443 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: back to that resiliency that this is not a group 444 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: that's going to quit. They're competitive, they're pulled together. There 445 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 4: was never a moment of pointing fingers or we're not there. 446 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: There's a level of belief to this group of how 447 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: good they can be. I think that showed up a lot. 448 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: And then I think now with you know, with the 449 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: words of you know, Fronz and Paolo and Jalen and 450 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: these guys, there's a want there's a want factor that 451 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 4: you can feel they want more. And I think that's 452 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: what was shown in that series, like they want more 453 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 4: and now they just had to go through the experience 454 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: of seven games and a playoff series to realize how 455 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: do you get the things that you want and the 456 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: work that you have to put in. 457 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: How about your summer, jamal At, you had another summer 458 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 5: with USA basketball. Tell everybody that doesn't get to experience that, 459 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 5: which is nine percent of us, how is that experience? 460 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: What is it like for you? What is it? 461 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: I mean, what does it do you to be around 462 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 5: not only those players, but those other your peers too. 463 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I always talk about how grateful I am 464 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: for it, and like you said, it's it's not a 465 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 4: lot of people get to do that. So it's it's 466 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: a blessing to be able to do that and to 467 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: be around those coaches. First, it's the players that you 468 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: really get to see live real time and their work 469 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 4: ethic and how focused they were in the camp, just 470 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: what they were trying to have their focus and attention towards. 471 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: Is just watching Steph, watching Lebron, watching KD watching book. 472 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: These guys were all focused on something bigger than them, 473 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 4: which was great to see. But then you see the 474 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: work ethic behind it. And then for the coaches, it's 475 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: just it's interesting to see the level of one expertise 476 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: and confidence but in the same time a level of 477 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 4: humility and vulnerability. And it's sharing information, not caring where 478 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: it comes from, but we're trying to solve something for 479 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 4: all of us. 480 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 5: How much information, though, is everybody willing to share? Right, because, 481 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 5: like you know, Eric Spolstro or Steve Kerr, like those 482 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 5: guys maybe don't want to Tylou. 483 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 6: How open do. 484 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 5: You guys truly get or is it just like, listen, 485 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 5: we're friends, I'm gonna help you, You're gonna help me. 486 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 5: I think we hold stuff back from Dante all the time. 487 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I could. 488 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: See why, and I could see why you would. I mean, hey, 489 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: he might use it on the air, it might take 490 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 4: it from it. I completely understood. It's interesting for me 491 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: and with that group of coaches, I think there's just 492 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: such a level of confidence in what they've done that 493 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: we're all. 494 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: Willing to share information. 495 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, you are as 496 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 4: good a coach as your best players tend to be. 497 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 4: And I think they all understand and know that, and 498 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: that the situations you're putting them in to be successful, 499 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 4: we get that. And so creating these friendships with these guys, 500 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 4: you do share a ton of information. And when it's 501 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: all said and done, did you prepare your team the 502 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: best way that you possibly could? And I think that's 503 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 4: what we all hang our hats on when it comes 504 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: to that there are no secrets in this game. I mean, 505 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: with everything going on, you realize there aren't many secrets. 506 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 4: Is just have you prepared your team to the best 507 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: of your ability to be in a situation to be successful? 508 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: And I think that's what we all realize, Like there's 509 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: nothing new under the sun when it comes. 510 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 5: To this, isn't it your favorite When there's a scout 511 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 5: sitting somewhere by and they're trying to lean in and 512 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 5: hear Jamal or the other coaches call, and then they 513 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 5: don't hear it, and they're kind of like peaking up, Jamal, 514 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: look right word the other coach look arount me like 515 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: that's flop three things whatever, Like whatever the call is, 516 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 5: this guy's gonna swing this way, he's gonna It's. 517 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: Hilarious because they all know. 518 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: They all know, like if you do your research, you 519 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: do your scout, and you have somebody at every game 520 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: you're writing down the call, you're writing down yell out 521 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: of play and sometimes I'll tell you, hey, this is 522 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 4: what's coming. And now, if you've done your job and 523 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 4: which we are in the game of relationships and development 524 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: and helping guys be successful, well, if we've developed our 525 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: players the right way, then they should be able to 526 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: make the read with however guy someone's defending them. That 527 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: means we've done our job, and the guys are doing 528 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: their job because they understand exactly how they're being played, 529 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 4: and that's the level that this group is moving to. 530 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 7: And calling a play for Steph Curry doesn't exactly apply 531 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 7: to twenty nine other teams. 532 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 3: Correct, That's true without a shadow of a doun. 533 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: Yes, you probably we don't know this, but all NBA 534 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: players think they should be out there forty eight minutes. 535 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: Yes, every player. Every player thinks they should play the 536 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: whole game. Right, that's happens, It's doubt. It is the 537 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: beginning of time. 538 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: Yes, But you've got an incredibly deep team and you've 539 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: got unbelievable position battles, which I think is a great 540 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: thing for a coach to have. You know, Anthony Black 541 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: is going to want to play Jet Howard, you have Goga, 542 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: you have Tristan, right, I mean this is going to 543 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: get it right. Corey Joseph is a proven veteran. Right, 544 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: You've got all these guys. Caleb Caleb right, Maybe this 545 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: feels like this is his turn. How are you viewing? 546 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: That will reveal itself to you as you go. Do 547 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: you have a plan going in? Obviously you do, But 548 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: what is your what is your approach? 549 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: Well, we have a plan going in, and plans always change, sure, 550 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: because obviously certain things happened throughout the year. Injury happens, 551 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: then certain guys get to step in, some guys performing 552 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: at a high level when someone's not in those moments, 553 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: and so we evaluate it that way, but you do 554 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: have a plan to say, Okay, who has earned these 555 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: minutes and that's how we'll start, you know, the what 556 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: we're doing this year, and the guys that have earned 557 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: it will play and then as the year goes on, 558 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: things happen throughout it. But what has happened and you 559 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: guys mentioned it early with Paolo and Franz, they've emerged 560 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 4: as here's what's happening and here's how we have to 561 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: rely on you two. And so with that being said, 562 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: the people that are best fit around those two as 563 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 4: well as Jalen and wehn Dell and now Kenny is how. 564 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 3: Does that look as the year goes on? 565 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 4: And it's going to change over time because teams are 566 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: going to start to pick things up and we got 567 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: to find different adjustments to make. But I remember hearing 568 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: Spoe say in a press conference, you know, middle through 569 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 4: the year, middle of the year, he was talking about, 570 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: you know, how is your somebody asked them about his 571 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: rotation and it changes all the time because of the 572 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: scenarios within the year. 573 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: It's and that's going to be ongoing for us. 574 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: You know, you'd like to have the certain stability of 575 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: going on, but The reality is it changes throughout the year, 576 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: and these guys have been accepting of that because of 577 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 4: because of the roles that they've been given, the responsibilities 578 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: that they have to this team. 579 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 6: The team has been flying under the radar, I would say, 580 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: the last couple of years, you're on a radar. Now, 581 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 6: how does that change things with a young team too, 582 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 6: that now has expectations? How do you and the ballplayers 583 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 6: handle that? 584 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 4: I think we talk about it openly. You realize that 585 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: you don't want to ride the wave of hey, you 586 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: were good tonight, you struggled last night, you got to go. 587 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 4: You just stay the same. And it goes back to 588 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 4: what we were saying earlier about the process of things. 589 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: Are we following the process that makes us a good team? 590 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: And no matter what that looks like and how teams 591 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: come out to prepare for us, we have to keep 592 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: focusing on the way we're going about our business and 593 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 4: challenging ourselves because we're going to see some I mean, 594 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: the East is tough this year, and then we go 595 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: out west, you know, early on, So we've got to 596 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: make sure that we're preparing ourselves in that right way. 597 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 4: So it's more of that goes back to the mindset 598 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: piece that you're not trying. 599 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: To show up. 600 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: You have to say, Okay, we are here and we 601 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 4: belong to this in the space, but you still have 602 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 4: to prove it every night. 603 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 7: This will be the last thing for me. I just 604 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 7: wanted to ask you about Jeded Howard and the approach 605 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 7: you've seen just going even going back to his rookie season, 606 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 7: the attitude he brought sort of knowing that he was 607 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 7: going to get his opportunity eventually, and then his offseason in. 608 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: The preseason so far, I mean, he's been fantastic. 609 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: He's been in He was in the gym all summer, 610 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 4: and I think we saw that throughout the summer league. 611 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: His ability to. 612 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: Play in Asceola with that group and get real games 613 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 4: at a faster pace usually than the NBA is because 614 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: those guys are fighting and scrapping and playing a different 615 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: style of basketball. But it was great for that game 616 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 4: to speed up for him there. And what we've seen 617 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: for him during training camp is just there's a maturity. 618 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: Take Carter, who works with him the most, is has 619 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he's in the gym early, he stays late, 620 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: he comes in on days off, he's working both sides 621 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: of the ball, which I think is so important for 622 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: him to step into that realm. Like he's working on 623 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: his defensive closeouts, he's working on how to guard the 624 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: pick and roll, how to guard pin downs. 625 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: He's watching Kenny, He's watching. 626 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 4: Gary, how they guard what they do. So growth has 627 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: been fantastic, And I just told them. We actually had 628 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: a conversation yesterday about like the future, you know, and 629 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: understanding that. I want that hunger, you want that desire, 630 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: you want that fight to be in it and never 631 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: lose that. I want you to be mad when you're 632 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 4: not in games because that's the desire and the fight 633 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: that you want to keep your guys to have, because 634 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: that keeps that competitive nature going every single day in camp. 635 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, last thing, coach, you've got a couple of roster 636 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: spots open. You've got some two way spots. You don't know, 637 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: there might be guys on this roster now that could 638 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: make it. You might look elsewhere if you do have 639 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: the opportunity to bring one of these guys on the roster. 640 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: You've done it before. What is that like when you 641 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: get to tell a guy that they made an NBA roster? 642 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 4: You know you always go back to guy's journeys and 643 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: for a guy to say he was with Oziola, he 644 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: was a two way, and then he's a roster spot. 645 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 4: There's no better feeling for that, because guys are that's 646 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: what they want. They want to say they made it, 647 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 4: they got an NBA contract. And for us to be 648 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: able to tell these guys that, it's rewarding again because 649 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: I said, we are in the relationship business and to 650 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: help someone start their journey that way is always a 651 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: great thing. 652 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. And and I guess you know, we have 653 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: another preseason game on Friday. We've got a couple of 654 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: Mets games in. 655 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: Between now, and it's good, hopefully just three. I think 656 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: what we've learned. 657 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 6: The Dodgers are in that series too, right. 658 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could. Just what we've learned is Joel is 659 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: a call away. 660 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 4: I think Joel is a phone call. 661 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: Listen, I'm going to tell you right now at five 662 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 5: o'clock on Friday. I know we played Philly one time. 663 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 5: We played Philly seven, So you might not get anything 664 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: out of it. For the first half of the game. 665 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: He's going to be quiet because it's going to be 666 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 3: a probably a blow. 667 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 5: You better call your buddy Dave Roberts today today. 668 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not going to come to bother him. 669 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: Friends with Dave though, right, you do know him? Yes, 670 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: that's right. I do to hear from you. That's that's 671 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: where that's where it all comes from. 672 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 5: But where I always know it. I didn't know it 673 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: until until the matchup, and then I was. 674 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: Well, they had you said it had been a while, 675 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 4: because then I like the Brewers, it would have been like, Okay, Milwaukee, yeah, yeah. 676 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, where were you with Milwaukee? 677 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, just pitch away quiet. 678 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 7: I know you spent time in Cleveland. 679 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: No love for the Guardians. There's love there, all right. 680 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: I mean I know you're from Cleveland. Yeah, I know 681 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: you call them the Guardians speaking about not being there 682 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: for but hopefully that I wasn't saying anything. You guys, 683 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: you all root for whoever plays the Yankees. We all 684 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: root for them. Coach, this is great. We are excited. 685 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: I know you feel the buzz in town absolutely. Nationally, 686 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: people are excited about what's happening here. Uh that that 687 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: stems from the job that you've done and what you're 688 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: building here, and it's awesome. We can't wait to get started. 689 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: I appreciate it this year. Thank you, I appreciate you all. 690 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. That'll do it for another episode of Magic 691 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: Pod Squad