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Speaker 1: Today's episode contains spoilers for Dune Prophecy episode four twice born.

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Speaker 1: Watch that before you listen today. Hi everyone, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Boo and welcome to X Ray Visions Extras and Extra

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Speaker 1: In fact, today I'm joined by the Tehran rfl himself,

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Speaker 1: Jason CONCEPTI own.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Emperor, who must I burn with my mind?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jason, we are here to of course talk about

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Speaker 1: Dune Prophecy episode.

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Speaker 3: Four of six.

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Speaker 1: We're going to run through the summary of the episode together,

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Speaker 1: share our thoughts, and then at the end, I'll have

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Speaker 1: some Lord tidbits to share, which folks in the Discord

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Speaker 1: have been appreciating. Which is always fun because I get

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Speaker 1: to do some Dune research every time I.

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Speaker 4: Watch these episodes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's jump right in. Episode four of Dune

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Speaker 1: Prophecy opens on Wallach nine, which is a buzz after

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Speaker 1: all of the acolytes have experienced a terrifying and possibly

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Speaker 1: prophetic dream vision. In fact, Sister Emmeline is standing over

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Speaker 1: that pool where Dorotea had died and nearly stabs herself.

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Speaker 1: She's in some sort of trance, but luckily Sister Jen

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Speaker 1: runs in and is able to stop her before the

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Speaker 1: knife falls. Now after the title credits, we return with Tula,

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Speaker 1: who is in a meeting with Sister Emmeline and Sister

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Speaker 1: Jen and is doing her best to try and understand

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Speaker 1: the who, what, when where of this dream? What's happening here?

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Speaker 1: She's quite shocked, but she can't quite figure out what's happening.

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Speaker 1: I got the sense she's also nervous that the Dora

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Speaker 1: Tea murder might leak somehow through these visions.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is definitely the sense you get.

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Speaker 1: And I also thought it was interesting that Sister Emmeline

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Speaker 1: uses truth sense on mother Tula. I think maybe the

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Speaker 1: first time we've watched an acolyte do that on one

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Speaker 1: of the teachers here at the school. A breach of trust,

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Speaker 1: which we'll see Emmeline kind of becomes a bit rebellious later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot of trust to be found at

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Speaker 2: the Sisterhood right now, which I think is really fun.

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Speaker 2: Do you get a sense of what the ranks are

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Speaker 2: currently in the sisterhood? How many levels are there between

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Speaker 2: Mother Superior and everything else up from acolte.

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Speaker 1: I think in this show it is quite linear. It's

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Speaker 1: just Vollya Mother Superior up top, and then her sort

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Speaker 1: basically Sister Avila and Tula sort of the right.

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Speaker 4: And left hands. We don't get a sense of any.

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Speaker 1: Tenured professor teachers that are kind of around, but presumably

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Speaker 1: there are other teachers teaching these accolades. It's not just

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Speaker 1: the three women at the top that we see. But

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Speaker 1: I think as far as this show is concerned, that's

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Speaker 1: it for now. And actually, speaking of Sister Avilla, after

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Speaker 1: this little parent teacher conference, she turns to Tula and

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Speaker 1: It'll go away, it'll work itself out. It's better not

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Speaker 1: to tamper with this, which is precisely what Tula will

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Speaker 2: Sisterravilla exists primarily in this show to say Tula, don't

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Speaker 2: do that, yes, and for Tula to just blow through

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Speaker 2: absolutely do it anyway, Like Avilla's entire contribution is like,

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Speaker 2: and then Tula will just be like, no.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for your opinion, Nevila. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We then come back to Volya, who is as your

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Speaker 1: have a mission here. She proposes that it is perhaps

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Speaker 1: finally time for House Hearkenin to have its very own

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Speaker 1: truth sayer, and not just any truth sayer, go right

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Speaker 1: to the top. But me, Mother Superior, what do you.

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Speaker 2: Think about that?

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good sales pitch And Harrow's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: Is it in a pinch? Have I just recently lost

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Speaker 2: of trouble? And that's what's driven me this? Uh huh, yes,

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Speaker 2: but don't ignore the headline. House Hearkenin gets Mother Superior

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Speaker 1: Right, full stop, top of the fold. Incredible stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: House hearken In really not doing their due diligence here.

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Speaker 1: You've got a background check anyone you hire, like, it

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Speaker 1: who we are just now introduced to in this episode,

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Speaker 1: and we learned that Harrow's deepest, darkest desire is for respect.

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Speaker 1: He wants to earn the respect of his peers in

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Speaker 1: the Lancerad and in the governing body. And Valia is

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Speaker 1: basically promising him that. Wally is saying, I will be

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Speaker 1: Harrow agrees. Meanwhile, we cut to another tense I believe

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Speaker 1: breakfast this time this seems like a morning situation. Yea, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the juice looked really delicious. There was a lot of

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Speaker 1: are having also quite the confrontational breakfast at that beautiful

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Speaker 1: and basically just calls Desmond out as a killer. She says, uh,

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Speaker 1: just cops to it. He's like, yeah, yeah, I did you.

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Speaker 2: Know why? Because he's got fucking thinking machines. He had

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Speaker 2: that thinking machine toy. Yep, what did we fight the

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Speaker 2: war for? Is that not a crime?

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Speaker 3: Did not?

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Speaker 2: Your father the emperor proclaiming her crime? Come on, why

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Speaker 4: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, while he's stuffing his face with rolls like.

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Speaker 2: So hungry. Also, is Travis Fimmel like purposely making faces

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Speaker 2: where his eyes go cross eyed? Throughout this episode He's

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Speaker 2: making some of the most insane faces while giving line

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Speaker 2: readings and spoiler burning people with his mind and eating

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Speaker 2: that I've ever like he is fully wild in this episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that might be intentional because of the whole

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Speaker 1: do that while trying to deliver lines. Now, while this

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Speaker 1: Lancetrate are all coming to Solusis secundus, folks, there's a

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Speaker 1: We then cut to our boy Desmond Hart, who is

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Speaker 1: casually burning one of Kasha's old Sisterhood books that she

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Speaker 2: Well, this is clearly he is on the tracks for

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Speaker 2: a confrontation with the Sisterhood. Writ large that said, this

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Speaker 2: need this stuff, don't we, Emperor, don't we need these books?

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's got to be some thing important

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Speaker 1: we know, so it's tough. I mean, it's also just

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Speaker 1: like mad disrespect to books. You know, I think both

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Speaker 1: the Pruitt thing, perhaps his greatest crime. The Emperor and

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Speaker 1: Desmond chat here. It's just two dudes having a heart

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Speaker 1: to heart growing out, Havoco sits down and he admits

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Speaker 1: to Desmond that he's feeling insecure in his position. He's

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Speaker 1: unable to live up to these legendary Carino ancestors. As

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Speaker 1: we had talked about in episode one. They're war heroes,

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Speaker 1: they're great politicians. I'm a nobody. Nobody respects me in

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Speaker 1: the imperium. Desmond tries to be like, well, maybe you

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Speaker 1: should have a spine, Maybe you should be more of

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Speaker 1: a hard ass. Maybe you should rule with an iron fist.

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Speaker 1: And if people don't respect you, you got me. Tell

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Speaker 1: me who to burn. Point me in a direction, I'll

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Speaker 1: kill it.

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Speaker 4: But for what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: Havoc is like, no, not right now. Let's just keep

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Speaker 1: you as back up for now, you're still benched. We

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Speaker 1: then cut to out of the city, where in a

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Speaker 1: meeting up with an Ixian tech smuggler, the first time

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Speaker 1: we have seen an Xian on screen from the Dean universe,

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Speaker 1: at least in the modern adaptations, and this smuggler, in

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Speaker 1: exchange for many many Solaris gives the Rebels this drone

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Speaker 1: bomb hunter seeker looking thing, which is obviously a thinking

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Speaker 2: Can I ten thousand years later they will have this tech. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we will see it in the first Dune movie, and

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Speaker 2: it's there in the first Dune book, but of course

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Speaker 2: piloted by a Hearken and I guess yes, So this

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Autonomous is the key, right, It has its own quote

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Speaker 1: She is, in fact, recording one of those long eye

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Speaker 1: it's quite heartfelt. We get a sense of a softer

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Speaker 1: side to Vali here, but she doesn't hit send. I

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Speaker 1: She deletes it instead. And then she stabs the cartridge,

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Speaker 1: the game Boy cartridge in two sisters. Theodosia enters and

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Speaker 1: reports that the rebels have got this drone. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: use it during the lamps Ride meeting. They're gonna kill

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Speaker 1: the emperor.

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Speaker 4: And Bali is like, perfect, that's.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what we need to happen, because I'm gonna be there,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna swoop in, I'm gonna save the emperor. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get back in as good graces.

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Speaker 2: Why not just immediately drop the dime, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Why not just right now go to the emperor and say,

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Speaker 2: guess what, Your sword master's currently in the palace right

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Speaker 2: now and fucking your daughter like all the time, is

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Speaker 2: plotting to kill you. I go through this, add this

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Speaker 2: extra wrinkle where also you have to save his life

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Speaker 2: in front of the assembled lands red right, this seems

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Speaker 2: like a bad idea from somebody who's supposed to be

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Speaker 4: You know, Jason, that is an amazing point.

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Speaker 3: And I think if you were Mother Superior, that's what

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Speaker 3: you would do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's not what Balia does, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: what they decide to do with the sisters decide to

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Speaker 1: do is they're going to take advantage of these rumors

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Speaker 1: and or blue eyed It's a little unclear in the

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00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: lighting what color her eyes are, but we see Lila

434
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: walking around seemingly very confused because the only words she

435
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: says are where am I? I have some theories on

436
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: where that might go, but we can talk about that.

437
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, please Okay?

438
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: To wrap up the episode after all this Landstride chaos,

439
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: we are back at the hearken In household and Valia

440
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: tells Theodosia that she has acquired a sample of Desmond's blood.

441
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: She has this bloody rag from the event and they

442
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: basically got to send it to twenty three and meet

443
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: right to figure out what part Mongolian this guy is,

444
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: but also who is what his backstory is? She then

445
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: has I really loved this final scene?

446
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 4: Actually?

447
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: She has this very intense and emotional standoff with her uncle.

448
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, mark Addy pulling down the old thunder again.

449
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: A Valia lets her uncle die in this moment, doesn't

450
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: give him his inhaler and then looks over and we

451
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: see none other than Griffin Harkin hasn't aged a day.

452
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck is happening? Hold on it?

453
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: I thought it was like I think just thinking of

454
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: the penguin. I was like, is this a like what

455
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: right is happening right now?

456
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: Certainly, and I think it was played off as a

457
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: vision for a few beats intentionally, Yeah, But then she

458
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: walks up and literally hugs Griffin and they exchanged some

459
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: words back and forth. But then she says thank you

460
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: THEO specifically, and then Griffin walks away and as we

461
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: cut to the credits here, our final shot is a

462
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: shot of sister Theodosia shape shifting back into herself.

463
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Speaker 4: This was crazy from Griffin harkinin.

464
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: So that is the adojent's special talent is she can

465
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: shape shift fully her entire form quite painfully.

466
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Speaker 4: It seems it looked very painful into the mirror.

467
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: Image of whoever she is studying. I guess off of

468
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: like they would show her holograms and then she would

469
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: mold it somehow.

470
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: But that was a that was like a wow, what Yeah,

471
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: that was a big wow. What moment. I think for

472
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 4: many reasons.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for folks who have read the Dude novels, you

474
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: immediately think face answer question mark, Yeah, face dancer.

475
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: But even in the Brian.

476
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: Herbert prequel books, the timeline of that doesn't quite line

477
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: up because face dancers haven't been invented by this point.

478
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: So this seems to be a show only decision. Okay,

479
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll get an explanation for it in the

480
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: next episode. I'm curious before we dive into our big

481
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: picture thoughts. I'm wondering what you read was on why

482
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Theodosia turned into Griffin exactly in this last scene.

483
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: My only thought is that she must have been pretending

484
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: to be some sort of ghostly specter for reasons that

485
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: we have not yet. Yeah understood, That's what I was thinking,

486
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: Like she was trying to trick Uncle Harkinen into revealing something.

487
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: Doing something maybe is the reason that he h under

488
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Dress in an extreme emotional stress, then passed away this yeah,

489
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: do to quote unquote natural causes. I'm not sure, right,

490
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: But that's the part I've just been trying to figure out,

491
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: because I'm like, what did she do? What was now

492
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: this does fall? I'm sure they will reveal what it was,

493
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: but this does fall into the general plot pattern of

494
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: this series, which is to show you the thing and

495
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: then later yes, show you the significance of the thing.

496
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: We can debate whether that's a wise plot choice or not,

497
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: but I'm utterly confused as to what the reason for

498
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: doing this could be.

499
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so am I. I'm in the same boat.

500
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: I do think we will perhaps learn something because Valia says,

501
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: have I pushed you too far? Seemingly they had some

502
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: conversation before and she asked her specifically to do something

503
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: as Griffin, So maybe there will be a reveal next episode. Okay,

504
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: that's doing Prophecy episode four. That's our recap of this episode.

505
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: Let's take another quick breather, Jason. Let's collect our thoughts

506
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: when we come back. Let's talk a big picture what

507
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: we think of doing Prophecy so far, and then touch

508
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: on some lower Easter eggs from this episode. Okay, we're back,

509
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: all right, Jason. I'm curious, where's your heart at with

510
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: this show right now?

511
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: Four episodes in.

512
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm a little I'm saddened because I was wanting this

513
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: to be better. I think what is frustrating about this

514
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: episode in particular is this is what I've wanted, was

515
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: for us to go back to the present timeline, the

516
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: main timeline with all the plotting around Emperor Carrino, the

517
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: plots that surround him, Desmond Heart and what Desmond Heart

518
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: might be up to, and the general fallout from the

519
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Cheesy Boy death. And we have done that, and it

520
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: was just kind of a mess. We talked about the

521
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: kind of end reveal that, you know, I don't know

522
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: that it is great story wise to have a kind

523
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: of diosx makin a superpower appear in the final moments

524
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: of like a pivotal episode, like out of nowhere.

525
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: And here's this thing.

526
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: I think compounding the confusion surrounding a diosx machin of

527
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: superpower appearing in the final moments of a pivotal episode

528
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: is when you don't tell us what it was used

529
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: to do. So I'm like, what is happening? I like

530
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: the lands rad stuff, I like the general politics. I

531
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: did like the kind of even though it did feel

532
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: like it came out of left field, the suggestions that

533
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: there are splinter groups within the Sisterhood, people who don't

534
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: agree with the general direction and are like, wait, what

535
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: is it we were doing, like we don't agree with this,

536
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: we adhere to Do'rtea's line of thinking. All that stuff.

537
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: I like, I just find and that there's a lot

538
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: of characters that feel very much to be passengers in

539
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: their own arcs. Yeah, great way to put Emperor Karno,

540
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: for instance. I think we thought Mark strong, great actor,

541
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: You're going to see more from him. He's really just

542
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: caught up in the backwash of Desmond Heart's plotline, which

543
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: is only beginning to take shape now. Same with the Empress,

544
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: who I think is a very strong and wonderful character.

545
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: Same with Princess Yanez, same with Kieran. So it's like,

546
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: I keep coming back to the central thing, which is like,

547
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: who's the main character. I think we know now that

548
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: it's Desmond Heart versus Valia is essentially like the confrontation

549
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: that we've been stumbling towards. I just wish that had

550
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: been set up a little earlier, if we had ten

551
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: episodes or more, I think I would feel like we

552
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: can get there. We can still get there, and there's

553
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: still enough good stuff here where I like the bones

554
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: of the thing with s Now. I'm truly a little

555
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: scared that we're not going to see a good show

556
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: or hints of a good show this season, and that

557
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 2: could this be it for doing prophecy, like we get

558
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: a pick up?

559
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

560
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: Based on this four episodes in a six episode season,

561
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Where are you with it?

562
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: You practically voiced all of my opinions. I feel exactly

563
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: the same way. I think you put it beautifully. The characters,

564
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: many of the characters do feel like passengers in their

565
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: own storylines, and it's a lot of plot things happen,

566
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: like Domino's falling to make the next Domino fall. Yeah, seemingly.

567
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: The Lancerod stuff I thought was not quite as intriguing

568
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: as it could have been because we the viewer are

569
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: a fly on the wall and we know everyone's schemes, right,

570
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: and so we're coming into that lance Rod like we

571
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to go down in the Lancerod,

572
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: and that's the primary tension. I did quite like that,

573
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: But we do practically know what everyone is here trying

574
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: to do, and I think if we're going to do intrigue,

575
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: I the viewer, I also want to be participating in

576
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: some of the intrigue. I want to be out of

577
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: the loop on some things as well.

578
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, going in that's a great point because I agree

579
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: with you, and I think it makes the things that

580
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: we are out of the loop on stand out in

581
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: a in a way that feels a little jarring, such

582
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: as this sudden appearance of the potential face dancer. Yes,

583
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: in that particular plotline, You're like, wait what.

584
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, the things I did like were actually whenever

585
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: we cut back to Wallach nine, I'm quite intrigued with

586
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: what's going on with the visions, what's going on with

587
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: the Acolytes.

588
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: You know.

589
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: I think I've said this in our previous conversations, but

590
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: I almost would have preferred a show that was like

591
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: Les lancetrad Emperor Palace intrigue and more sisterhood, Like more

592
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 1: time on Wallock nine, more time with the Accolytes. If

593
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: we're going to do sort of like a kids at

594
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: School and a TV show sort of thing with the Accolades,

595
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: focus on Volley and Tula instead as our main characters,

596
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: maybe I think that's a show that I would have

597
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: been really invested in. But we're juggling a lot. We're juggling, yeah,

598
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: a lot of storylines and a lot of character arcs

599
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: that I just as you stated that, I'm getting very

600
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: nervous we won't be able to close the loop on

601
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: in a satisfying way in two more episodes with such

602
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: a short season.

603
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: Where do you think we're going? What do you think

604
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: we end up as at the end of episode six.

605
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Well, I looked at the HBO always says the next

606
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: episode preview thing. There seems to be a lot of

607
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: action next episode. So I think we're getting some like

608
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: knife fights. Maybe we're getting some confrontations. Finally, maybe Kieran

609
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: and the rebels are just going to be like, no

610
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: more hiding, let's go, or our plot got foiled, so

611
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: we got to do something. I think where we're headed

612
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: is a showdown between Vollia and Desmond to win the

613
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Emperor's favor, which again you kind of like take the

614
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: teeth out of that bite, because we know that the

615
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: Sisterhood is going to win this and be on the

616
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Emperor's side. So I guess the thing that would subvert

617
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: our expectations is for Desmond to temporarily win and for

618
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: Valyatt to sort of lose this bout of the match.

619
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: In this first season, I'm not sure. I think either

620
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: of those things could happen. I think with Lylah in particular,

621
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: we're headed towards some sort of abomination. I think she's

622
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: possessed by Dorotea right now, which is why she's asking,

623
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: like where am I She's Dorotea has never seen this

624
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: room before. I guess Lila hasn't either technically, but I

625
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see some possession come up.

626
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know.

627
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: I want to throw the question back to you, though,

628
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: maybe in a different sense, like not where you think

629
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: we're going, but where would you need this show to

630
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: land the plane in the next two episodes for you

631
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: to walk away and be like, Okay, I'm along for

632
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: the ride. I'll be around for season two whenever that

633
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: comes up.

634
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: Well, well, I'll tell you what I think will happen,

635
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you the version of it that I

636
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: think would be cool. I think what will happen is

637
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: you get this bakeoff between Desmond and Volia to uproot

638
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: the rest of these machine rebels, including kieran A traadees.

639
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: I think you see kieran A treats. I think we're

640
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: introduced to the rest of House of trades, and maybe

641
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: the next episode we get hints of what the actual

642
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: governing members of that house are up to. Presumably they

643
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: would have been at this meeting and would be shocked

644
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: at what they've seen. I think we find that Kieran

645
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: is acting like off the reservation, but I think we

646
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: see under pressure, Volia and Kuran team up somehow to

647
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: maybe like get Desmond Heart out of the paint, and

648
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: I think that allows Kieran to continue as a character

649
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: in this story. I think that would actually be pretty cool.

650
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: This alliance of people who don't want to be allied

651
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: together and in fact strongly disagree with each other and

652
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: in fact are both illegally fucking around with Ai shit.

653
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: I think that's fun, right because they have a lot

654
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: of obviously skin in the game. Desmond wants probably both

655
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: of them dead, and so they need to get him

656
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: out of there. I think that's cool. That makes a

657
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: lot of sense, and I think we end up in

658
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: a place where we get some more suggestions about what

659
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: Desmond is and how he became this way. Now, what

660
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: do I think would be cool? I think would be

661
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: what would be cool is more like agency from everybody

662
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: who is not Valua and Desmond Heart. I would love

663
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: to see the Emperor being like, do I trust any

664
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: of these people? Okay? How do I protect myself? How

665
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: do I proceed with the Empress at my side? How

666
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: do we put enough insulation between us and Desmond Heart

667
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: and all the rest of these people in case it

668
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: goes a different way. Let's say we have to cut

669
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: Desmond loose? How do we do that safely? Like, here's

670
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: a guy who can burn people with his mind, and yes,

671
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: he's your attack dog now, but what if he's not tomorrow.

672
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: I would like to see more characters thinking that way

673
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: about their current situation. You know, do I trust my

674
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: truth sayer?

675
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: Yes?

676
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: I wish we were seeing more I start having conversations

677
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: with other people about like what do I do about

678
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: this person who's at my side and I don't now

679
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: know if I can trust them. That's what I would

680
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: like to see as we head down the downslope of

681
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: the season towards the end, is more characters acting like

682
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: they have a say in their own life and wondering

683
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: if all the people around them are true allies or

684
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: true threats or some shade of in between, and then

685
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: taking measures accordingly. I think that would be cool.

686
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 4: What about you?

687
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: What would you need to see to make you feel like, Okay,

688
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: I'm in for a season two.

689
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: I would need to see a lot more exactly what

690
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you're saying. I would need to see a lot more

691
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: Dune level scheming and planning from the Sisterhood. I think

692
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: what we've seen of the Sisterhood so far in this

693
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: show is not tantalizing enough, because I admit I know

694
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot about Dune, so maybe none of this is

695
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: like new or mind blowing stuff to me. But I

696
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: wanted to come into the show to be like, oh

697
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm learning so much about the Sisterhood and

698
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: their inner workings. And that is a wild plan that

699
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: ex Sister and Dorotea came up with. So I think

700
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: I would like for this Sisterhood plotline to take us

701
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: somewhere that's new and exciting and mysterious for the Dean universe.

702
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: I think if we are hinting at something like a

703
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: like a Latout character, or if we're going to connect

704
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: it back to even Paula Trades, it feels like we're

705
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: chained a little bit too much to the movies. I

706
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: guess I would like for this show to take its

707
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: own identity and to recognize the fact, as we've discussed,

708
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: that we're ten thousand years away from so much of

709
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: this stuff, like really mattering that.

710
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: Much is an immense amount of time.

711
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: It's such a long time.

712
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: It's enough time for like wild shit like the Sisterhood

713
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: to be eradicated and then come back.

714
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great, great point. Let's go to the

715
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: you know what now that we've said that, I want

716
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: to I have a lot of questions for you, but

717
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: I feel like they fall under lore. So let's jump

718
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: to lore so super quickly.

719
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to blast through some lower things. I feel

720
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: free to jump in with questions as well. OK, I

721
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: want to shout out House Vernius. We had a lot

722
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: of house names dropped in this episode because of the

723
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: lands ride meeting. One of them was House Vernius, who

724
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: is a particularly important house in the Brian Herbert prequel stories.

725
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: House Vernius actually calls none other than Planet IX their home,

726
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: and in fact they are the stewards of Planet X

727
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: for thousands of years, although in this show it's not

728
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: clear if House.

729
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: Vernius is the same thing as X.

730
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Right now, they do take it over after this timeline,

731
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: so timeline stuff is still very fuzzy right now, but

732
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: certainly by the time we get close to Paula Trades

733
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: once we're in the you know, eight thousands, nine thousands,

734
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: close and down on that ten thousand mark. House Vernius

735
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: has been ruling X for a long long time, and

736
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: in fact, there's a whole plotline in the prequel books

737
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: where House Vernius interacts with Duke leto tradees and ultimately

738
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: meets their demise due to tragic events. Speaking of the Excians,

739
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to shout that out as well, because we

740
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: met an Nix Senes smuggler in today's episode with the

741
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: whole thermal bomb drone thing. And for folks who may

742
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: not know, Planet X is basically just the Silicon Valley

743
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: of the Dune universe, there are a bunch of techies.

744
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: They are constantly pushing the bounds of the Balerian prohibitions

745
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: against thinking machines, even in Paula Tredy's time, so they

746
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: don't learn their lesson ever, basically over the next ten

747
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: thousand years. Some fun facts, they are actually responsible in

748
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the lore for creating those cones of silence that we've

749
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: seen a couple of times in this show, and they

750
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: are responsible for creating the Hunter Seeker, the bomb that

751
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: we saw in today's episode, and the little needle bug

752
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: thing that attacks Timothy shallow May in the Dune movie.

753
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: I also wanted to shout out that we got some

754
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: Dune terminology here. We got Padishaw Javaco's full title Patashaw

755
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: Emperor of the Known Universe, Havico Karino the First, and

756
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Patashaw is actually a Persian word. I really appreciated getting

757
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: this in the show because, as we know, Dune borrows

758
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: a lot from Arabic push though Persian, Hebrew traditions and languages,

759
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: many of them you know, sourced from the Middle East.

760
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: Frank Herbert did a lot of research on those things

761
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: and borrowed a lot of ideas for his stories, and

762
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: it was nice to get that as well. Notably because

763
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: the show and the Villaina films in fact, were criticized

764
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: for not calling the wars a gihad. In this it's

765
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: the Butler and Jihad. In the future, it's Paul's gihad,

766
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: which I think is fair. You just can't say the

767
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: word gihad on American television in twenty twenty four, so

768
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: it's fair, you know, I think that is pointlessing to

769
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: get up in arms about machine wars.

770
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 4: Totally fine.

771
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: And the last thing we mentioned this earlier Conley. Harold

772
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: harkinin declares Conley in this episode. And this is super

773
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: interesting because Conley is defined in the Dune books as

774
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: quote a formal feud or vendetta under the rules of

775
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: the Great Convention, carried on according to the strictest limitations.

776
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: And that's especially interesting because warfare in the Dune universe

777
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: is not the traditional warfare that we know today. It's

778
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: not the warfare of large armies clashing. It's not the

779
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: warfare of say, like a like a Star Trek or

780
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: a star wars with ships shooting lasers at each other.

781
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: It is very much about assassins and vendettas and underhanded

782
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: tactics and poisonings and backstabbings. And one way in which

783
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: this government is controlling the bloodshed is when you want

784
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: to quote unquote declare war against another house or arrival,

785
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: you have to declare Conley officially, and hilariously, in the

786
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Dune Encyclopedia it actually explains you have to fill out paperwork.

787
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: It's like doing your taxes. You have to declare conly

788
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: and then within a limited capacity under strict rules of war,

789
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: you are allowed to try to assassinate each other and stuff.

790
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: And so that's practically what Harrol harkinin declared here, which

791
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: is why it's a big deal that he said that

792
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: at the Lawndride meeting.

793
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 4: Did you have other lord questions for me?

794
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Jason? I do, so, what is going on with Desmond Heart?

795
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: And are there any lore roots for the kind of

796
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: powers that he has?

797
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for what's going on with

798
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: Desmond Heart, which is a totally show invention. One thing

799
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: I can theorize, and perhaps the only connection that I

800
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: can make, is that in the Brian Herbert prequel books,

801
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: there are straight up like basically sorceresses on a planet

802
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: called Rossick, And it's these sorceresses that actually help found

803
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: are connected loosely to founding the Sisterhood. Actually, these sorceresses

804
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: do have the ability to like telepathically mind blast people.

805
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: It's not the same as telepathically burning someone to a crisp,

806
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: but they do have these abilities. Is Desmond connected to

807
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: a sorceress of Rossick from that planet? Was his mother

808
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: like a rogue sister who left the Order and that's

809
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: why he has a vendetta against them.

810
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's still up in the air.

811
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: The proto face answer power that we see sister Theodosia

812
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: display here. You're right in that what we see is

813
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: face answer ish, but definitely not as you know, maybe

814
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: in ten thousand years they've honed the power and it's

815
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: just a lot easier and it's not what we see here. Yeah,

816
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: that said, do you think that's where they're going with it,

817
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: that this is kind of a proto face answer power?

818
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: And follow up, how do these where do these powers

819
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: spring from? The voice the face answer power? Where do

820
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: we think that they come from? Because it appears that

821
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: people are just born with it and then develop it

822
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: to the point that they're able to teach other people

823
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: how to do it. Yeah, where do they come from?

824
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: So as far as the proto face answer things thing

825
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: goes in the like post episode discussion thing with the

826
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: show creators, they did refer to it as a proto

827
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: face answer So that seemingly is the direction they're going

828
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: with it, that this will have some sort of connection

829
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: to the face answers of the far future that we

830
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: know from the books. As far as where the powers

831
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: come from the voice. In this show, we discussed this

832
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: in the last couple episodes. Did actually start with Volua,

833
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: and it's quite accurate to how it was in the

834
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: books as well. It's a power that she discovered and

835
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: developed over time, and as you said, honed it into

836
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: something that could be teachable to her fellow sisters. The

837
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: face dancers, on the other hand, are actually more of

838
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: like a biological weapon. They were created by a group

839
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: called the Benny Playlax, and the Benny Playlax are super gross,

840
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: but they're very into like biological modifications and genetic modifications,

841
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: and so they create these mules, these face dancers, through

842
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: these modifications, through biological and genetic tampering, so that they

843
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: can have like assassins and spies within the imperium. It's

844
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: a political tool for them, and so for it to

845
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: just naturally appear is a little confounding. Also famously, the

846
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: Benny Jeserit in the future, the Benny Jesuit Order and

847
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: the Benny Sleaylax are like bitter rivals. They don't like

848
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: each other. So the fact that this power is appearing

849
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: within the Sisterhood with the sister it's certainly throwing me

850
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: off my game. It's nothing that I know about.

851
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Thank you for the lowd doownload. Those

852
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: fast and of course.

853
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure of Jason, and that wraps it up

854
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: for our coverage of Dooing Prophecy episode four. Coming up

855
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: on the next few episodes of x ray Vision, you

856
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: and Rosie are continuing your coverage of the excellent Skeleton

857
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Crew on Disney Plus, and Carmen and Joelle will continue

858
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: their journey through Robert Egger's filmography with an episode about

859
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Speaker 1: the Northmen coming up as they work their way up

860
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Speaker 1: to No.

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Speaker 4: S Faratu on Christmas.

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Speaker 3: That's different today's episode.

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Speaker 4: Thank you all so much for listening by.

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Speaker 2: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Nsumsion and Rosie

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Speaker 2: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Executive producers

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Speaker 2: are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is

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Speaker 2: a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Lawn and Mia Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. Special thanks to

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Speaker 2: Soul Rubin and Chris Laude, Kenny Goodman and Heidi our

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