1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to Friday. Welcome to the weekend. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer, John Harris with you as we take you 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: inside the building NRG Stadium, Talk Texans, Talk NFL, Talk 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: sports because it's a fun football Friday. I have no 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: other f's, Johnny, how are you doing? I'm good. Food, 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: foods are good, F frolicking good, F festive behavior. Frontier, 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: I think if there's anything else, I remember when the 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Frontier still existed on the Vegas Strip, that old casino. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and when I was there in the nineties 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: for the Las Vegas Bowl with Central Michigan versus UNLV, 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: the Frontier people were on strike. I don't know what 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: was going on, some union dispute. Speaking of Vegas. Yeah, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: your thoughts about the legend? Funny you should bring the 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: sweeting today. Brent Musburger no longer the radio playboy, playman 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Yeah, how about that? And I wanted 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: to bring this up because, look, broadcasting is near and 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: dear to our hearts, that's what we're doing right now. 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Brent Musburger, kids. Brent Musburger was the man. He was 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: CBS Sports as much as Jim Nance is CBS Sports Now, 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Brent Musburger was more of CBS Sports back in the day, 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: the seventies the eighties. He was humongous. You're looking live 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: a veteran stadium in Philadelphia. He did all that on 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: the NFL today, he did play by play. He did 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament on CBS before Nance took that spot 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: from him. And I'm not saying Nance stole it from him. 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Nance as well deserving of that role, but Musburger was 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: the man. Then he went to ESPN forever, ABC, ESPN, 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: that Family, the Disney Family, and then the Raiders on 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: radio in Vegas to wind it down and wind it down. 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Who knows what he's gonna do next. Maybe he gets 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: now Michael's type deal. I don't think so. But he 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: did do that job, and I think he did it 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: pretty well. I heard a lot of the highlights, and 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: you'd hear his voice on some of the Raider montage stuff, 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: just like they use our calls for that. Anyway, Brent 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: says he's done as the Raiders play by playboys, I 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: would think that's it for him as a play by 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: play answer. You never know, But where does he fit 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: in for you? Johnny? And this is really relevant to 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: me because a lot of people were tweeting last night 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: with no Mike Breen available for Game one of the 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: NBA Finals and Jeff Van Gundy because of COVID, none 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: of those guys, neither of those guys available. They had 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Mark Jackson on the call doing the color commentary, but 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: without either Breen or Van Gundy. There was a lot 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: of tweeting about how people missed Breen's bang for threes, 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: especially as the Celtics were coming back if you were 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: rooting for them, and the Warriors going nuts early with 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: Steph Curry hitting six threes in the first quarter. Announcers 50 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: do play a role, of course, in the narration the 51 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: soundtrack of sports. Where does Brent fit in for you? Well, 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, I think demographic has 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: everything to do with it, because every big game, seemingly 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: growing up, Brent Musburger was a part of it. He 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: was either NFL today or he was out calling the 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: actual game itself. Yeah, he called some of the great 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: college games. I mean, he did the nineteen eighty eight 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: Miami Notre Dame game, which is arguably one. I mean, 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: it's not arguable that it's a top five game. It 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: could be arguable it's the greatest college game all time. 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: Catholics and convicts, Yes, it's he just he is the 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: soundtrack of my early Sportso really, I mean, he was 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: on everything, and then when he got his fastball back, 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: seemingly when he went to ABC ESPN, he was doing 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: games a Herb Street. It felt like he was rejuvenated 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: again with Herb Street. And then he left ABC ESPN. 67 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: He ended up in Vegas. He was doing his his 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: Vegas and I think it's probably what he'll do. I 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: think he's running that the Vegas radio program on gambling. 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: And that was always kind of the running joke about 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: how bent Brent's got minus four on the Raiders today 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: or something like that. But when he got to the Raiders, 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: I thought, well, this is kind of an interesting mix. 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: I like this. He just tweeted thank you to Lincoln 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Kennedy and thank you the Raiders, and thank you to 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the radio crew that was with them, and he said, 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'll do now. Maybe Mike Trout 78 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: needs a fancy sports commissioner or whatever, and he'd be 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: hard like, wow, okay, he's eighty three years old. Yeah, 80 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I would have guessed somewhere in the seventies, and I 81 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: would have been low seventies. I would have not had guessed. 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: If you do the math, it makes sense because he 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: was all the way in NFL today back in his 84 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: and he was a he was a writer, a long 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: time writer before that, So eighty three makes sense when 86 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: you think about it, But at the time I would 87 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: not have thought that. So I don't know if it 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: was if it's him stepping away or if it's the Raiders, 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, but either way, I hate 90 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: seeing it because he is the soundtrack of my sports life, 91 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: one of at least um and it's always fun. We 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: had the Huge Sports Awards, we had a chance to 93 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: catch up with Bill Worrell. Yeah, and Bill's kind of 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: that same person. Listen to Bill, you know, Geane Peterson 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: and radio, etc. And I know that that you're gonna 96 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: be that voice for a lot of people that have 97 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: grown up here and heard the Texans. You're gonna be 98 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: that guy. Um. So it's gonna be interesting, is you know, 99 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: we see younger people and they're like, oh, yeah, I've 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: been listening to you since I grew up. I'm like, oh, okay, great, 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: and then you still I'm old. Here's the other thing. Now, 102 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if this happened. I just gauging by 103 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: some of the tweets I saw. I think this happened 104 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: all across everybody watching the game. I thought maybe it 105 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: was just my service. But there was a point in 106 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: which the audio went out at the game or during 107 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: the game in the first quarter thing near the end 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: of the first quarter. And the weird thing was was 109 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: the close captioning was working, like you could see what 110 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: they were saying, but you couldn't hear. But you couldn't 111 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: hear it. That means the caption person must be in 112 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the truck. I'm assuming so they but you couldn't hear them. 113 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: And it was weird. The last two or three minutes 114 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: of the first quarter and Steph is having Steph Curry's 115 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: having an incredible first quarter. But and and that's where 116 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: my brain comes in. And I like that when a 117 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: guy gets hot and he gets at three and brains 118 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: like bang, and it kind of goes with the crowd. 119 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: It's just it gives it a little something. But there 120 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: was it was weird. I mean, Steph hit a couple 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: of shots and you could hear you heard nothing, So 122 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like that for everybody. 123 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: I've read a couple of tweets and it sounds like 124 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: it was. There was a couple of tweets I saw 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: that were I'm saying the audio engineer for ESPN was 126 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Evan Orrough. No, I've seen a lot of national broadcasts 127 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: have glitches lately, so that was kind of tough. But 128 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see what the Raiders end up doing. 129 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: You and you know that I'm the same as you, 130 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: and the fact that the broadcast itself means means a lot. 131 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm always interested in the broadcast and asking guys and 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: around broadcast teams. You know, they're South and Buffalo and 133 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: just the guys that we've gotten to know, just the 134 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: ins and outs of the broadcast and their stories. And 135 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: I know Musburger's got a million of them, but it 136 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: just seemed like it fit Raiders, Musburger, Las Vegas. It 137 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: just seemed like it all fit together. So I'm curious 138 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: to see what more will will come out of that. 139 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: But um, I if that's if that's it for Brent, Yeah, 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: he's going down. I mean top three, I mean Madden 141 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: summer all Brent, Wow, but he never did NFL play, 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: I play on national television. He did the studio show, 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: and he did all the other broadcasting in general. It's funny, 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: all right, So TV broadcasters, right, whether you're in studio 145 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: doing play by play, and these are different categories. But 146 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: the icons of the era, let's just say post nineteen seventy, 147 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era, but in all sports, right, okay, 148 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: and I guess we have to include Kurt Goudy, who 149 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: started before Keith Jackson. To me, I mean there's so many, gosh, 150 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can go. All right, Let's 151 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: just go studio because Brent made his mark as a 152 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: studio EJ post. Ernie Johnson might be the best. Ernie's 153 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: so good, and you know, Ernie's so underrated people Often 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: in these conversations his name won't come up right away. 155 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: But the way he handles that T and T show, 156 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Charles and Kenny, he's the perfect point guard for that. 157 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: That's the thing when when you've done radio or even TV, 158 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: no matter what role you've been in, and for me, 159 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: it's always been sort of analyst role. And when you're 160 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: with multiple people, especially those that like to talk to 161 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: manage all of them and keep the show going down 162 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: A particular track is the way he does it is incredible, 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: I think. And he's got and he's humorous, he's incredibly intelligent, 164 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: he prepares, he's just a he's an awesome guy too. 165 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: So I think Ernie Johnson's studio is excellent. Musburger NFL 166 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: Today was just he was He was incredible. He was 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: he was just And of course we were young and 168 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: we don't really know what the studio shows supposed to be. 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't know they're doing, you know, Jimmy 170 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: the Greek stuff and then kind of Insider and Phillis George. 171 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: It was a really good mix. It was a good group. 172 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: Musburger was great. Now. I don't know how you consider 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: NFL primetime, but Boomer and TJ. I don't know if 174 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: that's a studio show. It is a studio show, but 175 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: it's a highlight show. But Berman did drive the pregame 176 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: on ESPN NFL Countdown, whatever they call it. I did 177 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: love him in that role. But I loved him with 178 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: the highlights. The highlights. Well, it's funny because at some 179 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: point six ten and we do it on this show, too. 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: When we're doing a long form and we want some 181 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: NFL films type music. They started rolling that prime time 182 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: NFL films music. As opposed to the old you know, 183 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi, John Facentda stuff. They are running the more 184 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: modern Burman along with Tom Jackson stuff, and I really 185 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: like that a lot. I'll throw you a name, James Brown. 186 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: I think he's just about to say I think he's 187 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: under rated that I've interviewed the guy. He really is 188 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: a very interesting man, and he's been on two different 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: networks doing this, and he has been, shall I say, 190 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: saddled with a lot of different personality types, and sometimes 191 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: they have way too many people on that show. It 192 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: feels like it's James Brown and fourteen other people as 193 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: analysts and he's got to drive the whole thing. And 194 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I've always thought he does a really solid job with it. 195 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad he was the next name I was thinking 196 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: I was was James Brown for that For that same reason. 197 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: I just think directing that studio show with so many 198 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: people and trying to get guys to hey, I know 199 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: you may not have just finished your point, but shut up, 200 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: because we got to move on, I mean without saying it, 201 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: but you got it. I wonder if he has the 202 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: Drew Dohrty wink. Have you ever you've been exposed to 203 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: the Drew Dorty wink? Right? All right, So for the listeners, 204 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: when we're shooting a show with Drew Dohrty and you 205 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: see these, whether it's on social media, on ABC thirteen 206 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: or on any of our affiliates, when Drew is talking 207 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: with us with his eye that the camera can't see 208 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: because he got a profile view, when he's looking at 209 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: his guest, he will wink with that eye, just wink, wink, wink, 210 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: as to say the one you can't see. You gotta 211 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: wrap this sucker up because we need to go to 212 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: break or whatever or the next thing. And he gives 213 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: you the Drew Doherty wink. And it's a thing, and 214 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: he's really skilled with it. It's just it's not like 215 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: a glitch in his eyeball or something. He does it 216 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: and it's for a purpose. It's intentional and it's really cool. 217 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: All right. I'll give you another way to look at this. 218 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: I think that Brent is among the greatest overall TV 219 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: broadcasters when you factor in play by play in studio 220 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: hostability and just overall ability. I also think I'm not 221 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: a huge fan taste wise, but I think you have 222 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: to say this guy is unbelievably great. Bob Costas is 223 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: tremendous at what he does, play by play, studio host, 224 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: all of it. Now, people might not like his attitude 225 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: and the fact that anytime an opinion on the history 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: of baseball, we must go to Bob Costas, because for 227 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: some reason, all the baseball DNA of the entire history 228 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: of the game has been weaved into his body. I 229 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: don't know why, but he's one of those go to 230 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: guys when they made the Ken Burns series on baseball, 231 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: from that to just about everything on MLB Network anyway. 232 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: But Costas is that guy. Now, if you ask me 233 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: who would you rather listen to calling a big game 234 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: or doing a big studio show for a big game, 235 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Brent or Costas. Give me Brent every day? I got yeah, Absolutely, 236 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: I take Brent every day. I mean, but Costas, You're right, 237 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to take you away from him. I 238 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: mean the guy. The guy's called I mean, he's called baseball, 239 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: he's called basketball, he's called football, he's called pretty much everything. 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: I'll give you a guy who I think could end 241 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: up and we've talked about him before. I think he's 242 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of a modern day version of Musburger and a 243 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: Costas because he has done it all and of course 244 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: the Syracuse connection to Costas is what got me. Is 245 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Mike Trico. Oh yeah, because Mike gets Mike gets in studio. 246 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: I think he's the best overall, right now, Yeah, the 247 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: best overall, Like in the moment, relevant working, Mike Tarrico 248 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: can do anything studio. The Olympics does a tremendous job 249 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: with that great at play by play. I might rather 250 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: listen to him than most guys out there calling a 251 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: game on national television. So I think his work speaks 252 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: for itself. Yeah. I think Nance is always gonna be 253 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: up there. He just always has kind of this. He 254 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: always has the fuel for the moment and you get 255 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it at the Masters, it's not even 256 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: really a play by play, but it's more just he's 257 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: playing point guard and he's getting it out to sixteen 258 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: and he's getting it out the fay. Let's go out 259 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: to Dottie Pepper out at sixteen. Uh, let's go to 260 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: vern at fifteen Vernony. It's just the way he handles that. 261 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Vern at sixteen six get it right when I said, 262 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I knew it was sixteen, but I had 263 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: screwed up. I'm sorry. I know verns at sixteen because 264 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: he called tigers. He called tiger at two thousand and 265 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: five with the ball going in and then at the 266 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: end and say, yes, m that's a guy that's underrated 267 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: to me. For Vern, I think Vern Lundquist. He called 268 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: the ninety two Duke Kentucky basketball game. He's known for 269 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: SEC football. He's Uncle Verne. I mean he called the 270 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: ninety two Duke Kentucky. Later he called it with Len Elmore. 271 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: Those are the two that ended up calling that regional final. 272 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: Because of course CBS is covering whole tournament, so they've 273 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: got to have four different you know, four different crews. Yeah, 274 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: coming all those games. It's so Vern and h called 275 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: the too. But former voice of the Dallas Cowboys, Yes, Burned. 276 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the point he's done. He's done a 277 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: ton of different things across the way. But in studio, 278 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, guys, they could do studio and play by play. 279 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: Brent Costas has got to be there. And I think 280 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: Tarrico I think to Rico's fantastic, I would take I 281 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: would take Threco. And the thing is, I was mad, 282 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: really mad with Tarrico left college football like he was 283 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: calling a key college game, like a Thursday night game. 284 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: He was calling a game. I was mad when he 285 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: left ESPN because ESPN he could do everything him a lot. 286 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I liked him, Yeah, and NBC all of a sudden, 287 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: he's Al Michael's B team. Really, but now it's gonna 288 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: work out really well for him, and he's done a 289 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: ton of stuff at NBC. Anyway, I was thinking for 290 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Dan Hicks when NBC was still doing a lot of 291 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: golf that it was a warning sign, Oh, is Tarrico 292 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: going to come for your job? Because Tarrico is good 293 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: at golf too. Did a bunch at ESPN, in fact, 294 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: the Masters the first couple of days. All right, let's 295 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: get to the next item on the agenda. It's a 296 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: weekend summer cooler pot pourri. That's not a good word 297 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: for a sports talk show, but anyway, you go to 298 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: the cooler, you pull something out. Let me pull this out. 299 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: No longer will the NFL have COVID surveillance, at least 300 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: not for now, meaning the little devices that you wear, 301 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: the contact tracing. I'm sure they're gonna do some contact 302 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: tracing if you test positive. But Johnny, I'm gonna ask 303 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: you this, And I don't mind talking about this on 304 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the air. Anecdotally, I kind of I'm hearing about a 305 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: lot of people, relatively some several. I don't know where 306 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: to put the number, but it's more than one, it's 307 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: less than twenty, but people getting COVID where there was 308 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: a stretch there where it felt like nobody you knew 309 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: was getting COVID or two degrees of separation, you weren't 310 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: anywhere near anyone who was getting COVID. Now it's kind 311 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: of like, ah, so and sells got COVID. It doesn't 312 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: seem to be as as life threatening as it was. 313 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: And again I'm not a doctor and just play one 314 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: on the radio, But your thoughts on that aspect of it. 315 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: Little flare ups here we're in there. I heard about, Oh, 316 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: the church choir where I go to church, they had 317 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: a little outbreak and they had to shut down rehearsal. 318 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're singing in a choir in 319 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: a room for rehearsal, that's a super spreader right there, 320 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: you are literally flying through the air with COVID molecules. 321 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts? Well, it came to the 322 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: forefront last night when Jeff van Gundhi is out of game. 323 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah that too, because he's he's got COVID and the 324 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: game before what game? What game do they call? Is 325 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: that the seventh game of the Celtics heat. He sounded horrible, 326 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: So it's like, how long I'd have it? Well, brain 327 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: had it and and brain had it, so Breen's been out. 328 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: So anyways, point being, it's it feels like it is 329 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: and I think they used the word endemic where it's 330 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: got to be managed. It's it's like it's like having 331 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: a cold. We're having a cold, and it's gonna have 332 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: different symptoms for different people, just like the flu, and 333 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: just like you know, having a having a cold, we're 334 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna have different symptoms. Some people get the sniffles all 335 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: the time, some people, you know, get a running nose, 336 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: some people you don't have. I don't know, some people 337 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: have headaches. I don't know. That's my family. But they're 338 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: just different things that you're probably gonna have. And I 339 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: would imagine this is gonna be gonna be something something 340 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: similar to that. Where the sports part of it comes 341 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: in for me is having to do with players, because 342 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: when we look at player, boys think, oh, Jordan the 343 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: flu game, even though he says it wasn't the flu whatever, 344 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: that's probably not gonna happen. Ever, again, we're probably not 345 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: gonna have any game of that magnitude where oh, yeah, 346 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: he's sick in the locker room, but he's gonna come out. 347 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: What if you test negative for COVID that's a different 348 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: story though. You know, a doctor recently asked me if 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: I had the pneumonia shot. I didn't even know that existed. 350 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: The pneumonia shot. I've never heard of it. Really, I'd 351 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: never heard of it either. Now I'm feeling like an 352 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: idiot that I haven't gotten a shingle shot. Now I 353 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: feel like maybe I gotta get that one shots. Do 354 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: we have to get a lot of shots. I'm all 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: at the same time, just get it all done. One 356 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: big gigantic shot me shingles and give me COVID and 357 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: give me, uh, you know, the third chicken pox on 358 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: one arm, and then give me you know, like swine 359 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: flu and and something else on the other arm. It's 360 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the size of a chlorox container. Just go ahead and 361 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: stick that big needle and give it all to you. 362 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: So my son, you'll see where this is tied in 363 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: the second. So my son was he was like, Dad, 364 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: what's it? What's another series we can watch? Because it's 365 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: just it's me and him, So what's the series we 366 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: can watch? So I was like, well, have you seen 367 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: Veep on HBO? He's like, no, let's let's watch it. Yes, 368 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: there have been so many instances in there where Veep 369 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: was like a year or two ahead of time. They 370 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: actually talk at one point, they didn't they didn't call 371 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: it COVID, but they mentioned some sort of merse out 372 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: They did it in passing. But I happened to catch it, 373 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, I watched the Veep series. 374 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hilarious and it's very it's very off color, 375 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: but there are moments they talk about that absolutely like 376 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: came true in real life and in COVID they kind 377 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: of they didn't really like dive into it, but they 378 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: mentioned something about they called a merse outbreak, which I 379 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: know is you know, maybe different than what COVID was, 380 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: but something of that extent and I'm like, holy cow, 381 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: they called it, you know, but there were a number 382 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: of things like that that they sort of called during 383 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: that TV series. But you know, we had it was 384 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: right around the Combined time, and I remember we were 385 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: going to We're going about to go to Combine about 386 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: a week out and there was this thing came from 387 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: the NFL and said, hey, we're basically setting up these 388 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: kind of super bubbles or these bubbles for the players 389 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: and this is how it's gonna go. And there was 390 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of backlash and basically the NFL turned around. 391 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: I went, great, we're you know what, You're right, We're 392 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: just forget it. We're just everybody's gonna be as is. 393 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: It's a combined like have at it, like okay. And 394 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: about two days later we are not when somebody came 395 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: in in the door from the Texans and said, hey, 396 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: do you guys have any of the COVID like posters 397 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: and stuff that were posted everywhere throughout the building. We 398 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: had hand sides everywhere, I mean this building was decked 399 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: out with COVID information, etc. And he said, do you 400 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: have any of those in here? And we're like no, 401 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: and he goes, okay, if you do just make sure 402 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: you take it all down. So like all that went away, 403 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, I guess it's ober. Yeah, I mean, 404 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: hand sanitizers still a good idea obviously for a lot 405 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: of reasons, and colds and things like that, other reasons 406 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: as well, all right, And it wasn't so much that 407 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: it was like it's over, but it was the fact 408 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: that the pandemic side of it. I think the way 409 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: it was perceived was over. We're still gonna have to 410 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: deal with just like the flu and the cold. As 411 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: we said, we're gonna have to deal with that. So 412 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I still I still wear a mask 413 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: when I go out. I don't care. Yeah, I don't care. 414 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't feel like I'm getting sick. 415 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go in HB with two walking around, 416 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: none of them have mask on. I'll have my mask on. 417 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: I don't care. Do what you need to do because 418 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: that does protect you from some things, and you never 419 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: know what, you know. I've seen common cold, even I've 420 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: seen exactly. I've seen some people kind of look at 421 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: me and I'm like, you want to say something like 422 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: are you wearing a mask? Try me, come on, try well, 423 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: you didn't like tell the other person to wear a mask, right, 424 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: So that's called freedom. That's called freedom from here's another 425 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: one for you. We were talking about the Pro Bowl 426 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: earlier this week and how it's going to turn into 427 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: something else. We don't know what exactly, but it's all 428 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: very likely that it turns into something else. Players don't 429 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: really want to play in that game. Anyway. I was 430 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: watching on T and T the Golf Challenge between Pat Mahomes, 431 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady. Ernie was on 432 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: the broadcast with Charles. It was good. It was really 433 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: entertaining stuff. They played twelve holes, which, by the way, 434 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: is what golf should be. Golf should be twelve holes. 435 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: It's perfect. You get it done in three hours, you're 436 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: out of there. It's perfect. Play another twelve do it fine, 437 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: play another three hours. A three hour game, you'd have 438 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: a lot more participants. I have many thoughts on golf, 439 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: not for this program. Anyway. They were playing twelve holes 440 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: and it was really really cool the way they did this. 441 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Everybody was all miked up. Aaron Rodgers hits the big 442 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: put on the last hole. Brady did play well. He 443 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: also hit one on the water, on a mulligan in 444 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: the last hole. Whatever Mahomes was entertaining, they were all entertaining. 445 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: It was good. This is what you need to do 446 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: with the Pro Bowl. I'm not saying play golf, but 447 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: Mike guys up have some sort of friendly competitions that 448 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: still requires enough skill to make it interesting, but brings 449 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: out their best. As far as the banter, the chemistry 450 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: and let's fans sharing it, that would actually be more 451 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: entertaining than watching a non competitive football game. I think 452 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: that you're absolutely on it. And it's funny because I've 453 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: been watching and have watched. I've watched all the way 454 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: through the F one series, and we've talked about a 455 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: formula to drive. It's you could watch that as a podcast. 456 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: You don't even have to watch it. You could just 457 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: listen to the audio of it and get the gist 458 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: of not only what's going on, but that's what makes 459 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: the show because guys will needle, each of the drivers 460 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: will needle each other. But you hear the in the 461 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: car stuff. You hear them talking trash to one another. 462 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: The visuals are awesome because they're in all these different 463 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: places around the world. But the fact is that it's 464 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: the audio that you hear. It's like the miked up 465 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: for the NFL films. When you have these guys miked up, 466 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: I can't get enough. I mean, we're voyeuristic and I 467 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I am I want to know 468 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: what guys are talking about. And then you hear it 469 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's really cool. Judy had to 470 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: say on that, Oh man, they were talking. And of 471 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: course I like the football aspect of it, but that 472 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: was the cool part of the parts that I watched. 473 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: I didn't watch a lot of it, but the parts 474 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: that I watched, it was those guys talking trash to 475 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: one another. Beautiful. It was Tom Brady hitting a shot, 476 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: going I hit that a little chunky, call that a 477 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 1: little Josh Alleny, and it's like just little barbs at 478 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: one another. And Charles was gold. Yeah, the perfect foil 479 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: for all you could tell why once upon a time 480 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley was coveted for Monday Night Football's booth. Yeah, 481 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: it just makes sense. Even though he's a basketball guy, 482 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: he can banter. All right. Maybe it wouldn't be the 483 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: best thing in the world, but it would be entertaining, 484 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: all right. Next up, Let's do Who's Better with disclaimers, 485 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: and I'll set that up for you much better than 486 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: I just did. Next here on Texans All Access, Mark Vandermarin, 487 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: John Harris with you. Happy week, and I hope it's 488 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: a happy one for you. For you you're able to 489 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: get some time with the family, friends, whatever, or just 490 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: chilling out by yourself, or if you have to work, 491 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: God bless you. We have to work many of the weekends. 492 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: This would not be one of them, I guess. But 493 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: it's coming and we love it. We love what we 494 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: do here and we love Who's Better? John? Are you 495 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: ready to play? Yes, let's go. All right, let's go. 496 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: This is Who's Better. As far as who do you 497 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: want for the next four years a GM, I'm gonna 498 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: give you one of these guys. Who's better, Tyreek Hill 499 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: or DeVante Adams? Next four years? You've got one. Who 500 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: are you taking? Tyreek Hill? I think Tyreek Hill is 501 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: the most dangerous thing that this thing. I say things 502 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't want say. I never I never really wanted 503 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: to call Tyreek Hill a receiver because I think Tyreek 504 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: is more than that. And I wrote today for my 505 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Daily Broom and actually gonna tweet it out or I 506 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: did tweet it out earlier. Sorry, um. And it's the 507 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: top one hundred players. The Texans will the top one 508 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: hundred non quarterbacks the Texans will face. Yeah, and Tyreek 509 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: are both in there. DeVante is a very difficult receiver 510 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: to cover, very difficult. He does not scare me like 511 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: Tyreek does, because Tyreek can take a flip, a push pass, 512 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: um jet sweep, and he can turn that pictured defense 513 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: on just absolute fear. Put it in fear. DeVante is 514 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: going to spin a dB around and you're just gonna 515 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: tippy cup like, yeah, I mean, let me put it. 516 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: You can double DeVante Adams and slow him down. But 517 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: teams are gonna find ways to use Tyree Killy, even 518 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: if it means put him in the backfield like Deebo Samuel. Yeah, 519 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: that's true. Well, is there a receiver I could have 520 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: picked other than Davante Adams to intrigue you to pick 521 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: ahead of Hill in this question? No, Okay, no, because 522 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: there's so many good ones. There's so many good ones. 523 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: They're they're obviously A J. Britton's thinking. And what's on 524 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: the Texas schedule. A J. Brown's on the schedule Um, 525 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: who thankfully only wants Jaylen waddle down with Tyreek. Debo's 526 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: not but Debo's not better than Hill in this instance. Right, No, 527 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: but it's close though. I think. I think for me, Mark, 528 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: I've whenever I go to dinner, I don't want to 529 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: eat one thing. I want to have my five course meal. 530 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: I want to have an appetizer. We'll get a salad 531 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: or soup. I want me I'm full already. Assert And 532 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: if you want to give me a little sherbet at 533 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: the end or whatever, the little ending part or whatever, 534 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. Palette cleanser is what they call it. 535 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I'd like to have it. I 536 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: like to dabble in a lot of different things, and 537 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: I think I want that on my football players. I 538 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: want that out of my quote unquote receivers. If my 539 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: receiver is able to go in the backfield run the football, 540 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: that just saves me. Especially in the league that's capped 541 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: both salary wise and numbers wise. I can have only 542 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: have forty six guys on game day, So I've got 543 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: to make sure that those forty six guys give me 544 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: more bang for my dollars. So from that perspective, Tyreek 545 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: gives me more bang for my buck. But with his 546 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: speed in the way he can turn the corner into 547 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: different things he can do, I think he scares me 548 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: that much more. Yeah, I put I would put Debo 549 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: ahead of Davante just because, Okay, if I got to 550 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: try and tackle that dude, forget it. Man. DeVante is 551 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: a tremendous receiver. He is a great entree, but he 552 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: is not an appetizer entree in dessert. And Tyreek Hill 553 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: can not dominate a game without touching the ball much, 554 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: but he can attract so much attention that it feels 555 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: like it because other guys are getting the ball and 556 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: they're more open because of all the attention to Hill 557 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: is getting. So the guys and I were talking about this. 558 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: SuDS and I were talking about this the other day. 559 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: Tyler Suddarth our Emmy winning videography. He's tremendous. We were 560 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: talking about we're talking about the Chiefs, and I said, 561 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: I know people were talking about the Chiefs. The Chiefs 562 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: are gonna be Okay, Andy Red to find a way 563 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: like the offense will be good, there's no doubt. But 564 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: when you face the Chiefs offense in the past, you'd 565 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: better have a plan for Tyreek. And what was that plan? 566 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: Were you gonna double him? He couldn't really double him 567 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: because and he could move him in a lot of 568 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: different places, so it's hard to double him. Could you 569 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: bracken him? You know the best team, the team that 570 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: did it the best is actually the Patriots back in 571 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. So it's it was a little strange that 572 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: they were the only team they could kind of figured out. 573 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: But they figured out how to kind of take him 574 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: out of the game. But they had to take two 575 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: people to do it. But that opens the things up 576 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: for Kelsey. That opened things up for the running backs. 577 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: And so we were actually talking about Kelsey, like how 578 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: would you attack Kelsey now that Tyreek has gone? And 579 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: I said, well, my options are open now because with Kelsey, 580 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: would I put Derek Stingley on him? I might think 581 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: about it because the other guys Juju Smith, Schuster, Marquees Valdez, 582 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: Scantling like, okay, good players who didn't the Texans put 583 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: on him once upon a time and get success. Exactly 584 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: said that's how I said, SuDS, before you got here. A. J. 585 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: Boyer was the guy that put on him. Now they 586 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: also had Kareem Jackson playing corner Jonathan Joseph playing corner. 587 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: But I also went back to the filosophy the Patriots 588 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: had when they faced Hopkins before Fuller became Fuller. They 589 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: would take their number two, I'm sorry, they would take 590 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: their their start, their best corner, Malcolm Butler, and put 591 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: him on Fuller with the thought that they could their 592 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: number one would erase the number two one on one, 593 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: and then they would double Hopkins. I think you can, 594 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: because Fuller wasn't there yet. Once Fuller got to a 595 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: point where he was not maybe a equal Hopkins, but 596 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: it was clear, Okay, he can beat whoever they're gonna 597 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: cover him with. You're gonna make a mistake. Put a 598 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: number two on him. He's gonna burn that guy. Then 599 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't have it. They didn't have as much success. 600 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: But with the Chiefs, with Kelsey, I think you can 601 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: do something like that. Maybe you put Stingley on him 602 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: and then you handle everybody else. Maybe you double Juju Smith, 603 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Schuster or whatever other receiver you want to double, but 604 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: you want to make sure you put Stingley or your 605 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: best cover guy on Kelsey and don't get in a 606 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: physical battle with him, get in one in which you 607 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: match in mirror and without being physical, and then make 608 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: sure you're there in presence so you can take away 609 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: and knock away the football that all said you can 610 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: do all that because Tyreek is not there. I'm trying 611 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: to just make sure the cornerback doesn't want to throw 612 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: the ball to Kelsey if nothing else exactly right, not 613 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: just try to knock it away. How about the ball 614 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: doesn't get there in the first place because oh, he's covered. 615 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: I got to throw it to somebody else and let 616 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: someone else, another defender deal with that person. All right? 617 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: Who is better? That was a long explain, but we 618 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: had to get to all that stuff. Who's better? And 619 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: this is the version where you have to get this 620 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: guy for I'm gonna say two seasons. You have two seasons. 621 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Who's better, Derrick Henry or Jonathan Taylor? Who are you 622 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: taking for two seasons? Who's better? I'm taking Taylor. I 623 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: can't believe I just said that. I'm taking Taylor because 624 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: Henry's one injury has got you thinking, oh, oh, is 625 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: this gonna be a thing now? Is it? Is it 626 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: the injury alone? What if I guaranteed health Does that 627 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: change your opinion? Maybe? I mean it would change mine 628 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: if you can guarantee health. I admit, even one injury 629 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: starts getting you sort of shaky. I know you said, 630 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: I know you said two years, but they just went 631 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: through a seventeen game schedule. Now, well, it might help 632 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Henry in the long run. Is the fact that he 633 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: only played half a year last year that might help 634 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 1: him as far as the pounding right guy was drafted 635 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Keep that in mind. I mean, it's where's 636 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was four years later in twenty twenty. My gosh, 637 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray an exotic smash mouth. Yes, a hundred years ago, 638 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I know exactly. And so the point being, I god, 639 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to go against Henry because he's just a 640 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: freak of nature. They showed him the other day working 641 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: out and he was running routes, running up a steep hill. 642 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: He's running his past, his running backs. I'm like, that 643 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: was really depressing me. But here's the thing. Taylor scratched 644 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: the surface last year. What I think he can be. 645 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: I think he's ready to go to a different level. 646 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: On when he does get to that different level, I 647 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be really scary. You know know what's interesting. 648 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: We I'm not good to use the word fear, but 649 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: we're more concerned with the running backs in the division 650 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: than the quarterbacks. Yes, for the first time ever, really 651 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: in the offseason. We knew about Henry going into last year, 652 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: we knew about Taylor. But now it's really solidified. It's 653 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: really baked. And this is a division, folks. When the 654 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Texans entered the league, the colt said Peyton Manning, the 655 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: Titans had Steve McNair. They had a co MVP season 656 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: between the two of them in one h three, right, 657 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: and then the Titans started to drop off at oh four. 658 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: Manning obviously kept it going. The Jags had Mark Britnell 659 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: when this division started because the division did not exist 660 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: until the Texans got here. They created the AFC South. 661 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: I just find that stuff interesting. But now you're thinking 662 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: running backs really Ryan Tannehill, all right, I know he's solid, 663 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: but you feel like you can get to him if 664 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: you do a good jobs not scaring the daylights out 665 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: of you. Of course he's super solid and experience, but 666 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: he's not scaring the daylights. And Trevor Lawrence is still 667 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: on the rise. Here, all right, Who's better? Who's better? Johnny? 668 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say right now or in the 669 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: future or whatever. Now, let me put it this way. 670 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: I will put it that way, where you get the 671 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: guy moving forward from this point on in their career. 672 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: Who's better? Who do you want? Josh Allen or Patrick Mahone. Oh, 673 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: I knew it was coming. I knew it. I knew it. 674 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: It's a tough one, isn't it. I can tell you 675 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: who'd want to play golf for me among those two 676 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: after seeing the show on TNT the other night. But 677 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Holmes was good. I saw a couple of his shots. Good. 678 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: He's better than Allen. Yeah, I mean Alan hit some shots, 679 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Aaron Rodgers was far and away 680 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: the best golfer. Okay, I can't believe it was, especially 681 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: in the clutch. I can't believe one will say this, 682 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: but especially after watching a playoff game in which wyom 683 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Ming Josh came back out for the second half, I 684 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: think wyom Ming Josh is dead and buried, and I 685 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: think that is bad news. I think I think Allen 686 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: has a stronger arm than Patrick Mahon Mahomes does. He 687 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: runs the ball better and that might end up being 688 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: his downfall is the fact that he's gonna take some 689 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: shots because he's six six to forty m. I think 690 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Josh Allen. Okay, I think I'm 691 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: gonna go with Alan. I think you'd have some company. 692 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, not many, because I think a lot 693 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: of people are Mahomes won't ring, I mean, I don't know. 694 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: But also Mahomes has been thrown to Tyreek and Kelsey 695 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: and you know had Andy Reid, Josh Allen had Bryan Name. 696 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Now that's gonna be interesting. Your guy, Ken Dorsey's taken 697 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: over as OC, so we'll see how how he does. 698 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. Dorsey's had you know, 699 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: Cam Newton in the past. He's had some good things 700 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 1: with quarterbacks that we're not like Ken Dorsey, he's done 701 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: really well with I think Josh Allen was the fun 702 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: Diggs changed things. When they got him Stefawn Diggs, it 703 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, he's got his guy to go too. 704 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: But I just watched him up close. Both of them 705 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: scare me to death. But when Josh Alan scared me 706 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 1: even more and seeing him in the rain last year. 707 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: I mean, that thing was getting away and I just 708 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: felt like Alan was growing into his quarterback body. But 709 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: the throws that he can make, Mahomes makes a lot 710 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: of the same throws. I can't believe I'm about to 711 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: say this, but I think Allen can be more consistent. 712 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: I think he is more consistent than and Patrick gets 713 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: very impatient, whereas I think Josh will take you. He'll 714 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: take what you give him a little bit more than 715 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Patrick will. And I think that's going to lead to 716 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more success for Alan. They've got to 717 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: get they gotta smash through though this year. This is 718 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: the year. It's all set up for them. This is 719 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: the year they got to smash through. The Chiefs have 720 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: been around long enough as a good team where they 721 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: got to roll that roster over underneath him and not 722 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: the entire thing. But you and I always talk about 723 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: how this goes every three or four years. The roster 724 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: rolls over right with the exception of a handful of guys, 725 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: and they could be very important guys who are all 726 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: pro types. Possibly if you're a great team or you 727 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: have one quarterback and it just seems like the team 728 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: stays the same, but it really doesn't, so the Chiefs 729 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: have that burden. The Bills are getting there too, but 730 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: they still have a lot of the guys who came 731 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: up in this McDermott era, and it's really interesting to 732 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: watch them develop. They've got to get there. I mean, 733 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: they went to the divisional round. It feels like they 734 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: went back to the AFC Championship game because everyone remembers 735 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: that game. They played, that epic game they played at Arrowhead. 736 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: All right, come up the final Who's Better? It involves 737 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: two teams that I guess the Texans don't play this 738 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: year unless it's a postseason situation, but they played them 739 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: last year. Plus we talked about one big retirement yesterday, 740 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about another, and maybe we should have. 741 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: It's Texans All Access final segment before we give it 742 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: up for the weekend. Here on Texans All Access, Johnny, 743 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: we are playing Who's Better? And it was the Who's 744 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: Better version of a disclaimer time attached to the Who's Better? 745 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: In other words, who's better? Which team? From here on out? 746 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: Pick one the Cincinnati Bengals, who are coming off a 747 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance with Joe Burrow, or the San Francisco 748 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, I loaded that one for you. I 749 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: should change the other team, forty nine Ers. I know 750 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick the forty nine ers. Well, they're gonna 751 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: get Trey Lance, and you love him and the great 752 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: they have Joe Burrow and Cincinnati they do, and that's 753 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna be the great equalizer. As long as 754 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow stays healthy, he's the great equalizer. He's got 755 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: three tremendous weapons. The throw to the offensive line and 756 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: got the makeover it needed. And defensively, I think they've 757 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: got some of the more underrated players between Jesse Bates 758 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: and safety. We know about DJ Reader. I love Logan 759 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: Wilson linebacker for them. That team is mega talented. I 760 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: do think though it's a team that that that goes 761 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: that steps back a little bit. Okay, I think it 762 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: steps back a little bit. I think the forty nine 763 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: ers the forty nine ers. Now, of course, the caveat 764 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: is if Trey Lance is all that, but that team 765 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: is so talented across the board. I of all the 766 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: teams faced, looking at all the teams that we faced 767 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: last year, that team was the most physical and fastest 768 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: of all the teams we played. Defensively in particular, Wait, 769 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: did I say that we played the Bengals last year? 770 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: It was the year before last year and there was 771 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: no Burrow there. I would have liked them seeing Burrow 772 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: up close. But either way the matter because Brandon Allen 773 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: ripped us a new one. So the Brandon Allen, Brandon 774 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Allen, Brandon Allen, second last week of the season. 775 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: That hurt a lot. The COVID he had heard a lot. 776 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: All right, Yesterday we talked about Ryan Fitzpatrick retiring after 777 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: seventeen seasons, eleven teams, and we tweeted out, I did 778 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: I guess, but it's been retweeted. A picture deeply found 779 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: it of Ryan Fitzpatrick in the very first episode of 780 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: Texans Late Nights. That the first one. That was the 781 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: first one in twenty fourteen, and we shot it in 782 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: a studio here in the stadium. We had a studio audience. 783 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: Fitzy was unbelievable. We gave the guests a gift every week. 784 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: That show ran two years, but it was a really 785 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: hard show to do. We had the studio audience, We 786 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: had to wait on the players. They had very important 787 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: things to do, and we'd create this late night atmosphere 788 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day, basically in studiotape. It 789 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: then throw it on ABC thirteen on Saturday Night. It 790 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: was a good show. There a lot of good moments. 791 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: Fitzy was great. We had wat, we had all the stars, 792 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: we had Hopkins, we had everybody on that show. But 793 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: Fitzy was great. And that picture is on Twitter on 794 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: at Texans Voice is feed. I added a little apostrophe, 795 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: yes there all right. But the other retirement was Frank 796 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: Gore done the forty nine ers. The Canes were tweeting 797 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: out all this stuff about his time there the forty 798 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: nine ers, where he's gonna go into the forty nine 799 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: or Hall of Fame. One are the all time leading rushers. 800 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: Frank Gore thoughts, you know, we do all this draft 801 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: stuff and what's the one thing And it hit home 802 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: for us the injuries. Derek Stingley two years injuries, right, 803 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh, what's he gonna do? Derek Stingley. Now, 804 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: Frank Gore was the third rounder, so you'd get it's 805 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: a little different. But Frank Gore had not one, but 806 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: two ACL tears between his senior year. He didn't go 807 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: to Columbus, did he go to Columbus. He's from the 808 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: Miami area. Either way, he had an ACL call Gables 809 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: High School, col Gables ACL tear and then he toured again. 810 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: He toured twice in like three maybe four years. Yeah, 811 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: got into the league. Always an injury, He's an injury problem. 812 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: He's just dude played longer than any of those Canes, 813 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: longer than any of them. I took my cap Frank 814 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: corps Man. That dude was an absolute beast. Even when 815 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: he got to the Colts. The twenty fifteen game that 816 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: Thursday night, that was Yeah, it was a fifteen or 817 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: sixteen either way. There was one game I think it 818 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: was the fifteen game, and yeah, because Frank was playing 819 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: with Andre Oh. Anyways, Gore was a monster tackle that night. 820 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: Our guys were struggling tackle him. I didn't give it 821 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: to him twenty times. He gave it to him like 822 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: ten to twelve times, if I remember right. But they 823 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: were struggling tackling, and I'm like this. I remember being 824 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: down the sideline was like, this guy's eighty years old 825 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: and we can't tackle it. Yeah, he's tough, though, sixteen 826 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: thousand yards, third of the all time list. The thing 827 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: is he's never been considered the best back in the league, 828 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: or maybe one of the top three in the league 829 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: at any time he's played. But it speaks to his 830 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: longevity and sticktuitiveness that he could survive this long. So 831 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: I give him a ton of credit for that. Johnny, 832 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: I can't put him in the Hall of Fame automatically, 833 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: but maybe I can't just based on the numbers. I 834 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: guess the numbers get him in, And it sounds silly 835 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: to say that. Mark. Of course, the numbers are gonna 836 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: get him in, But I just told you that at 837 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: no time in his career was he considered a top 838 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: three running back in the NFL. I'm pretty sure I'm 839 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: right on that. Yeah, I think you're right about that. 840 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. When there's precedent, that's the thing 841 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: that always gets me. If there's precedent of a guy 842 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: getting in that was similar, then shouldn't Frank or get 843 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: into if his numbers are ahead of him. I think 844 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: guys think about is Curtis Martin fourteen thousand yards, He's 845 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 1: sixth on the all time list, and you could say 846 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: the same thing about him. Never consider one of the 847 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: top two or top three in the league. Curtis Martin. 848 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: Curtis Martin, Yeah, yeah, all right, Johnny, thanks a lot, yeah, Mark, 849 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: thank you. All right. That's gonna do it for the 850 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: show tonight. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back 851 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: on next week. Texans at OTAs again. Week three of 852 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: that stuff and a whole lot more come in your 853 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: way next week. 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