WEBVTT - MY FAVORITE MANNING 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.680 I am just like JB. Smooth and those Caesar's commercials 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.480 that are everywhere right now. When it comes to the Mannings, 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.840 Cooper is my favorite now, nothing but respected. Admiration for 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:16.600 his legendary father is two younger superstar brothers, but I've 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.880 always admired Cooper his outlook on life, the way he 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.880 has shown acceptance without lingering anger or resentment of a 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.120 diagnosis that ended his football career before it began at all, 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.600 Miss spinal stenosis, forcing him to pivot to change his 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.320 expected life path to reinvent himself, and we talk all 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.120 about that. I also like the Cooper doesn't take himself 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.720 too seriously. There are great stories about growing up manning 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.120 the volatile full house in New Orleans with three very 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.960 competitive brothers. But I also like how Cooper is maintaining 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.880 the Manning tradition of families loving and supportive, but also 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.760 gives you this space to find your own way, which 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.600 Cooper is doing now as the dad of the next 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.960 General Manning star quarterback. Well, Cooper, it's good to see it. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.120 Thanks for taking time. We were talking the other day offline. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.959 We were involved in a radio show. We were both 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:15.240 very young long ago mysterious origins. Remember remember, not very 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.000 well by either one of us. But I do remember 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.480 we did a radio show. You were fresh out of 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.440 old mess. You've been a broadcast major. Right there you 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.240 are on the air in New Orleans and we're doing 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.559 a radio show about football. Beyond that, it's all gray 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.120 area for me. I remember this vaguely, Chris. I know, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.199 I was in fresh in New Orleans and out of school. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.040 And then there was a kind of a local um legend, 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.600 Buddy Delaberta, who had massive following on w w L 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.360 eight seventy, the clear channel fifty giant. You could listen 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.720 to it in Michigan on a you know, on a 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.120 cool night, and he had had a heart attack. And 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.040 so they said, oh, Cooper's in. It was a broadcast guy. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:50.600 He can host a radio show. And they said, if 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.600 you host the radio show. I had not hosted anything. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.960 I barely knew how to you know where the microphone was, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.680 and and they said, oh, you could be hosting a 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.280 couple of nights, you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday from eight 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.440 to ten, calling show whatever you want to do. And 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.240 I remember you were a hero of mine from scholastic 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.840 sports American days, so I said, why not reached out 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.640 to Chris se if you'll join the chaos, And I 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.640 appreciate you bailing me out because I didn't know what 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.280 the heck I was doing. Well, you're a young kid 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.960 in her room and doing a radio shows a weird sensation. 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.359 You're alone in this room, maybe one guy there. You 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.640 get a microphone, but fifty thousand watts heard everywhere, and 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.640 you're you're sitting in for a legend. You don't know 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.680 what you're doing, and they say you can do whatever 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.000 you want. But those shows can feel long and scary 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.440 if you don't have a clue. It's very lonely, and 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.359 especially um if you say something that you think it's 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:41.600 kind of funny, and it's just like this is work. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.920 I remember I even got my dad to come on 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.880 as a guest, and I was like, uh. He even 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.000 came physically down to the station and we're talking and 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.440 I was like, Dad, I appreciate being on. I thought 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.239 you would have worn a shirt tonight. And it's a 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.480 little you're a little casual, and he's like, you know, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.680 he's just nodding, like expect to be able to laugh, 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.760 and no one laughs, and he's like him or shirt 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.000 you know, you know, so anyway you can definitely feel 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.240 like you're throwing you know, no hitter out there. It's lonely. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.720 That's funny. Well, you've done a number of different media 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.600 things which we can get to, but you're everywhere, along 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.320 with your brothers and your dad on these uh, these 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.400 Caesar's spots which you cannot turn the TV on without 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.000 seeing Caesar's. And it's because it's you know, sports betting 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.080 is exploding a lot of places. We just see him 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.400 a lot here in the New York area. Next question, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.919 aren't you Is this your first meeting with Caesar and Cleopatra? 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.240 We met mom in two thousand seven. Ah, the helmet kids, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:36.160 Actually that was two thousand and eighty. Things Miami was 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.640 Peyton's first super also great, but not as great as 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.160 the helmet catch. I wouldn't hit him with the numbers. Probably, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.880 who cares? We all? Caesar's am all right, keep it, Cooper, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:53.680 He's my favorite. Happy Holidays everyone, We all, and the 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:58.680 man is awso Caesars. Those look like funny experience if 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.880 you shot commercial. Sometimes they're not fun, but but JBS move. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.880 Academy Award winner Halle Berry you're sitting there around this room. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.720 Take us through that, how those were created and how 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.240 fun they were. Well of Chrise. First of all, we 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.920 were all Caesar's. I think that's fair to say out 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.080 of the gates. Um, you know, I think this thing 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.880 had been in the works for a while. I was probably, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.920 as always, kind of the last got to find out, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.400 you know, Peyton and he probably running the show. And 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.159 Dad's like, all right, we gotta go to Vegas. Shoots 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.479 of Caesar's commercials jump on. And the shooting of this 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.400 was in Las Vegas. As a matter of fact, we 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.400 got dressed. Our dressing room was the room from Rainman 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.719 where Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoppin we're you know, we're 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.040 hanging out. So there was a lot of nostalgia there. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.640 And I'm a movie buff, so I was kind of 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:47.800 appreciated the the historical references there. But it was so loose, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.080 like I had no lines for any of this, and 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.640 Um and JB. I had worked with him one of 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.320 the time. He had come on The Manning Hour one 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.960 time and we had again no script for him. You 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.480 just you just give a general theme of what to do. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.800 And he is so clever and so fun, and we 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.839 just hit it off and just started and the cameras 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.800 just roll and the and the directors were kind of like, 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.159 you know, JB O going and if you feel a direction, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.680 just send him that way and he'll go that way 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.479 and we'll document everything and it'll all, you know, it'll 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.920 all shake up pretty in the end. But it was 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.480 a lot of fun. I'm not sure a lot of 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.479 those still don't know that was Hallie Berry, Like that 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.479 was a pretty woman right there, you know who what? 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.839 And I'm like having oh And I don't think my 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:33.279 dad knew it was until about three four through, Like, Dad, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.080 that's you know, oh yeah, yeah, I didn't know the 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.800 first time watched the spots because she doesn't have a 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.920 lot of lines. He basically just kind of looks annoyed 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.800 at JB. Smooth. But that what a process, though, man, 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.080 to have no lines to just riff and then I 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.760 don't know how long the cameras roll, but you gotta 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.479 get this thing down to a thirty second commercial. They're 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.400 so tightly edited and you got all this material. How 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.400 did you talk your way into getting some lines? Because 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.600 when you should you're gonna go to Vegas when you're 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.680 just gonna be background while your brothers are talking and 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.920 your dad talking. To mean, come on, I know, a couplet, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.000 play with the play with the glasses, look at the glasses. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.599 And during anytime a break, I would always just ask 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.400 j B stuff or just comment on things and try 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.400 to make him laugh a little bit. And finally, out 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.440 of the blue, he starts talking about, oh, you know, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.640 you might, you know you might? You look fabulous? You know, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.159 I get do they look fabulous? And started I'm like, 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.640 but at the end, I swear we got done. I 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.000 didn't think there was any way. I thought I was 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.440 just gonna be kind of a you know, the third brother, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.839 just a pud. You know, I figured up where a 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.480 coach and time probably look a little bit better than 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:36.920 everyone else. But he has definitely helped my name recognition 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.160 on especially during these football games because it's that commercial 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.080 runs a lot. Well, he calls you you're my favorite 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.280 Manning and you you are mine too because you are 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.640 known as the fun one, and and you don't take 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.919 yourself all that seriously. And I think people connect with 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.680 certain parts of your story. But were you always quote 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.400 the fun one growing up? I think I was. I mean, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.760 my dad always says, they found me on the doorstep. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.920 So I always like to just, I don't know, kind 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.520 of take it the easy way and have fun and 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.080 grasses green right where I am. And Peyton was a 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.840 little you know, wired a little differently, and we um 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.840 were you know, kind of combative and fought a little bit. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.040 And then Eli was just so laid back and didn't 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.680 care about anything. It was kind of and I think 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.400 my parents did a really good job of like not 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.840 trying to make either one of us or anybody in 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.560 a certain way like that's the way it is. Let 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.560 him roll. You know. They're having people over for cocktails 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.120 one night, and they like, bring in the entertainment. Here 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.880 comes cook, you know, and it could, you know, dance 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.160 for us, young boy. You know. It was like that 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.560 sort of deal. So he had a lot of time 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.600 to perform. I'm sure the guests thought it was horrible 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.040 and boring and who is his kid? But your parents 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.440 parents were kind of proud of of how everybody was 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:51.000 wired differently and and uh embrace that. So it's kind 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.640 of worked. H I can relate to that. I was 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.560 trying it at a cocktail parts I didn't I certainly 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.960 didn't didn't sing or dance, but I was asked to 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.520 recite certain things. And my dad was a theater director 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.040 and they are both in the arts, so I had 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.640 some of that, and I was asked to perform in 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.160 front of guests, and you know, pretty mortified I could 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.000 do it as a young kid. Then they got very shy, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:13.080 probably traumatized subconsciously about doing But like your your dad 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.040 had the video camera out. It seems like for everything, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.480 I mean, in the Book of Manning, it's a great documentary. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.640 There's all these home movies which are really cool to have. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.600 But was he just you know, doing everything you guys 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.360 were as a family. He's got a recording of it. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.800 I guess it was such a new technology at the time. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.000 And you know, I think he always really prouded himselves 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.800 on you know, spinning timeless he's playing football et center. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.560 But so time outside of that was in the yard, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.040 shooting hoops, playing football. But Payton still, you know that 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:46.640 documentary he paid complains about. It's like, look, there's Cook, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.480 he's six, I'm four. He's kicking me in the stomach. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.400 But no, Dad, make sure you don't don't check on 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.680 the young boy. Just document this in case it's ever. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.880 You know, I'm gonna be a These boys turned out 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.880 to be quarterbacks. If people want, you know, see it 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.640 and read about it, don't don't come tend to your child. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.200 So that thing weighed about two hundred pounds. It was 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.319 that you actually had. It was like carrying a full 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:13.520 VHS machine and the camera. So, uh yeah, it's amazing. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.280 It's funny. Archie the documentary, he'd be the guy that likes, uh, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.320 got his phone out. Way of building is burning. It 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.960 is not calling nine one one, He's just capturing the video. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.840 I'm impressing you how to do I mean right now? Still, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.120 it's like he barely knows how to you know, press 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.679 sin on it. We've talked about a text message and 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.400 now the emojis are his favorite thing. But he's he's 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.240 not exactly technologically advanced. So I'm glad he was able 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.520 to document that because it is, you know, it's funny. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.240 So I'll see people in an airport, you know, I'll 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.880 be the milk in Philadelphia. The guy come in and go, oh, 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.800 I saw that document. I was you know, I was 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.600 in that. I was playing again jaell on that two 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.120 on two games. I lived down the block. I mean 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.880 it just we uh, we had a good neighborhood of 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.319 football and Dad got it all all on tape. That's awesome. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.200 He had an interesting neighborhood. I want to get to 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.280 that in a minute. But the relationship between brothers, it's 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.920 so close to me. I got a younger brother, Drew's 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.520 two and a half years younger. I did an entire 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:07.559 podcast on partarily relationships of the guys in Kings of 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.520 Leon Patrick and John mckinnar. I just think that the 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.240 way brothers interact, that the unique strength of the bond, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.360 the love, but also the ability to get under each 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.280 other's skin and fight and claw. I think it's hard 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.000 to understand if you didn't grow up around that, but 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.600 that little documentary and the clips give a kind of 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.360 a window into what you guys sort of were like 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.959 growing up. It seemed like a handful of in New Orleans. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.120 I think, you know. I think it also depends on 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.880 how close you are. Peyton are two years on the 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.880 on the dots, So when that means typically until you 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.720 get to about a certain age, you're competitive. But the 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.920 older brother has got an advantag mean two years when 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.480 you're ten at eight is a big gap. So he 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.040 was fiery. Didn't like to lose. We played a lot 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.360 of sports and competitive adn't like to lose it. We 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.360 just it just never ended very pleasant. It was always 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.200 blood or crying or running and and I know Peyton 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.559 things in that in that show that he was documented 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 as just like this whiny baby, but really he is 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.280 getting abused by, you know, an older brother a couple 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.880 of years older him. But it was a fun way 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.880 to grow up in. Eli was later and kind of quiet, 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.400 and I think I think probably Peyton beat up on 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.199 Eli a little bit more kind of trickle down economics 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.160 right there. And you were guilty of that too. According 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.400 to the documentary, you guys took turns getting to see 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.400 who could make Eli cry first. We take a lot 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.440 of credit for him playing all those games in a row. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.880 And you know, it was funny. This week, my son 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.079 had his first m R I. This a little m 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.600 R I. He was complaining about it and I called Eli. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.960 Eli said, he checked. He just didn't a medical deal 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.920 during his NFL career. He had eighty one m r s. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.000 So I'm like, get ready here they come. I mean nothing, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.240 you know, I think he wound up being Okay, but 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.079 you know it's part of the deal. Yeah, that's part 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.480 of Eli's mythology, never missed a game, because how could 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.880 he not be tough with you two guys, you know, 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.120 you know, you know, beating up on him. By the way, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.880 tell your son to check out his grandfather, your dad's 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.720 records about playing them. You know, the Gator Bowl with 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.439 a broken left forearm, and that was that's when football 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.760 was tough, man. I mean, the mrs didn't exist, and 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.120 the trainers would just like put a litt duct tape 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:16.239 and throw it back out in the field and those days. Yeah, 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.880 I know, I think just that era is just he 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.840 also talks about, you know, at halftime they're they're trying 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.120 to wave the cigarette smoke or whatever. You can see 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.640 what the second half plan was. I mean, different era, Oh, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.520 I know, but growing up, I mean obviously your dad 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.440 in Mississippi and ran he was like Elvis, So you're 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.760 growing up as the the oldest son of of Elvis 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.480 basically that kind of fame and folklore. Anything he did 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.240 it was pretty special. But then it got magnified and 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.679 retold and and and you know what what was that? 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.920 Like everybody had a story about Archie, right, and so 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.160 you you you either have to listen to it or 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:53.960 get to listen to it or get tired of it, 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.959 or whatever your perspective is on that. Yeah, I guess, Uh, 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.920 it was always fun, you know, be in the son 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.520 of a quarterback, especially you know, New Orleans was kind 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.040 of a new franchise and he was the first pick, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.640 and they weren't very good, but it was you know, 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.200 it wasn't He signed a lot of autographs and he 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.120 was kind of people. People were pretty kind to him. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.440 I think that's the one thing after all this is 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.559 that he was well liked and so you were proud 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.000 that he was your dad. And uh, he took us 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:22.960 place as we didn't need to go. I mean we 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.079 went to every Saturday practice. He would stick us with 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.160 the trainers and you know, we get taped and put 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.480 pads on and probably in the world of the NFL 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:33.800 today you can't do. And then you go back to 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.240 Mississippi and it was even more. You know, he was 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.880 just you know, kind of a legendary guy, but but 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.320 just a real humble guy and and fun to be 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.920 around and had great friends and it was a it 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.520 was a lovely way to grow up. Yeah, and by 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.800 all accounts, you guys talked about this in documentary what 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.000 a what a caring, loving present father, uh he was, 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.400 and how important that is. But when you're sort of 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.959 following his path and you're playing football as Archie's kid, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.640 I mean there was a pressure involved in that, right 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.280 or did you manage to sort of, um, keep that 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.920 out of the equation as much as you could? You know, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.200 he he did a good job of just making sports fun. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.720 He thought, play everything. You know, play basketball, football, baseball, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.560 I don't play tennis, play golf. And then if you 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.560 you know, as it got a little we got older, 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.200 he was really big on if you want to do 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.600 this more seriously, I'll help you, but you have to 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.840 ask for the help. I'm not saying all right, you 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.520 better stay after and you know, hit some more ground 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.240 I'll hit some more ground balls to you. It's like that, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.200 can you can you throw me a couple more? Can 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.360 you feed me while I'm shooting hoops? Can you, you know, 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.680 hit me some flyballs? It was you had to ask 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.440 for it, and then you know, you loved it. It 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.200 was not it would never seem like work. But he 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.040 would sometimes say, hey, you know, I don't know if 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.680 you're gifted enough to just kind of show up at 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.920 the beginning and you know, practice over hit the road. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.720 You even have to do some extra work if you 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.800 want to really do what you're saying. And so you 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.160 kind of got the hint. I mean, we went. We 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.480 didn't go on a ton of fancy vacations, right, And 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.760 then we go down to Florida and I've been down 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.040 to desk in or maybe you know something involved in 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.240 the NFL. I always brought my cleats and brought my football. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.360 We got we got our workouts in. It was just 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.680 kind of part of the deal. But it wasn't a duty. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.400 It was just it was just the way it was. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.240 It was fun growing up in that area. We talked 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.160 about this. The Garden District of New Orleans one of 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.200 the unique places on Earth. I love New Orleans as 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.520 a city. It's it's got a culture in a history 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.480 unlike any place in America or the world. And the 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.600 Garden District has these beautiful old homes at day back 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.320 and you guys are growing up there. Everybody knows where 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.400 the Mannings live. But but there's Anne Rice, you know, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:46.920 Vampire Chronicles, globally famous author Uh, I'm a huge nine 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.040 inch nails fan. So Trent Resner growing up right, I 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.040 think he's behind you, gut. I mean, what an incredible neighborhood. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.680 I don't know how conscious you were as a kid 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.600 of these kind of stars in very different arenas that 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.040 we're living right around you, guys, Chris, that the neighborhood 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.480 changed a lot when those two uh moved in. This 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.120 was kind of a little old ladies touring the Garden District, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.240 maybe a few busses and they you know, tell a 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.640 little story, and all of a sudden, I'm like, these 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.480 weren't little ladies walking about. These were people dressed as vampires. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:22.680 And you had some uh kind of some grungy looking 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.600 metal heads going. Do these people really care about this 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.520 Garden District architecture? So it was cool. It was added 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.520 a whole new dimension to the UH, to the Garden 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.440 Distire tours. But you know, Peyton and I would always 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.080 well be out there in the front yard a lot throwing, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.240 and they'd have these tours going and and every night, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.080 and then we just say, all right, let's let's get 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.000 him a little something, and we you know, start yelling 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.680 at each other and then just get into a full 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.440 wrestling match, just faking it. You know, I'm on there. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.240 Just people are going, sir, can we get some some 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.160 help here? But wait a minute. Wait, if you guys 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.000 are putting on a show for it, I'm just imagining 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.080 like these open air tour buses that are coming. Buy 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.000 is that what it is? Yes, exactly right. Just you know, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.120 garden dish tours come by and two kids, you know, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.360 screaming and yelling in the front yard. It was like, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.560 that's what, you know, that's what fifteen year old and 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.760 thirty year old was supposed to as opposed to, you know, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.760 short cheating your bed. We're entertaining these you know, poor 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.600 souls and walking by the street. It's funny. Did you 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.520 ever wander down the block and knock on the vampire 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.200 ladies door or were ever curious about what what her 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.679 vibe was like? She was pretty, you know, she was pretty. Uh, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.560 you didn't see her much. I went over there at 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.000 one time. Her her son was younger than me but 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.959 at moving with me in school, and some girls were 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.000 over there to kind of babysitting. We walked over there 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.760 and we didn't last long, and he said go ahead 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.600 and move on. And I never saw Trent. Trent. I 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.639 mean he was there for several years, um, but I 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.199 mean a little his backyard backs up right, and you 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.359 never heard you never heard nine H. Nail's music or 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.520 they were working through stuff coming through the walls or anything. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.080 I think he's got some pretty soundproof system over there. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.240 It was. And then shure enough he moves out in 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.159 John Goodman, the actor by buys that house. So it 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.480 went from you know, a lot of characters garden districts, 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.400 really cool place to grow up fund. My parents lived 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.439 in that house for forty years and just sold it. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.800 And uh and Peyton being kind of the nostalgia guy 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.440 and gets, you know, gets caught up at everything. He said, 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.680 all right, we gotta all go back to New Orleans 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.439 for one night before they move out and have a 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.560 you know, just just the family of dinner, spend the 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.200 night there. He gets, you know, he sucks that. Everything 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.560 starts going through his old you know, drawers and closets 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.280 looking for you know, just flashback material to talk about 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.239 the good old days. And you're not that metal. You're 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.399 just rolling your eyes as he's going through this, you know, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.199 I think and I kind of look at each other, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.239 are you going to this? Okay, find I'll go to this. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.520 Just don't even You know, when you don't live in 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.080 the same city, you try to just avoid any sort 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.159 of like it's not worth it, you know, too much 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.040 struggle to get into a hoop. Lo. Let let him. 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.240 We'll have some fun with it and just but it 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.440 was fun. It was cool, it was great, and uh, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.360 you know, it was a house where kids, kids ran. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.400 Marty Gros was a big part a huge backyard, so 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.600 it was kind of grand grand central for for a 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.280 lot of teenage boys coming and going swimming pool. Um. 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.400 I think everybody tried to did something for the first 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.879 time in that backyard over on the first rate. So 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.760 it was I'm trying to do this anything. I woke up, 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.199 you know, Sunday morning at my house and I'm like 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.760 doing a I usually do my body camp by how 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.840 many pairs of shoes or downstairs? I saw their fourteen 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.080 shoes down and I'm like, I got seven boys upstairs 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.680 somewhere sleeping. It's just it's just kind of the way 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.560 it is. And then I know it gets quiet quickly, 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.080 so I'm enjoying it while it's actually packed. That's kind 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.040 of cool, You've recreated that. I'm just trying imagining. You know, 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:42.040 your your your childhood house during a Marty Gras, which, um, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.639 you know you had people doing stuff before they're legally 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.760 allowed to do it. But jazz Fest. I mean, I'm 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.960 just what was it like to be a kid around 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:54.919 around that household during Marty Gros? You want floats? You're 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.760 doing the whole parade thing, are you? We would you know? Okay? 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.400 You know even in in New yorle In in seventh 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.160 grade at school went to Newman, it is the first 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.760 year the whole grade rides in the float. So you 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:08.399 learn how to ride and the float at a pretty 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.680 early age. And then some people love it. I got 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.280 friends who ride in four parades. You know. Peyton wants 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:15.600 to ride and parade this year. It's like, I don't 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.680 think we're riding to parade. Throw some beads to my children, 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.240 like you can light it up here we go. Come on, 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.240 I'm not I didn't grow up with it. I've done that. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.760 It's fun. Steve Walsh, the former Saints quarterback, we were 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.680 on a float. It was a good time. I don't 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.359 know about four four is a bit much, but yeah, 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.360 people think of it's like big on stage at a concert, 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.840 like everybody's just cheering and yelling for you. It's good 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.480 for the ego. Some people need that. Um Peyton obviously 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.680 clearly still needs that. He wants a round on the float, 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.160 so he'll he'll, I'm sure you'll pack. You'll probably get 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.720 someone to send him, you know, a hundred NFL balls. 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.920 It'll sign them and be throwing him on canal streets. 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.040 I'm trying to knock out windows. It'll be fun. Well, 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.320 the summer you were a mask, maybe he would make 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.760 sure he's not unmasked and everybody knows who he is. 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.000 I don't know. Yeah, he's he's pretty good at Halloween. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:03.560 I think he loves he walks around and as wears 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.480 a mask and you know, no one ever knows. But 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.320 I'll tell you, Chris, that's something about being in New 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.199 Orleans and you kind of have a house. You just 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.720 you make friends and it's like, hey, can we come 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.800 over and you know, can we use your bathroom? Can 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.800 we come get a beer? Can we you know? And 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:21.359 these are my fourteen friends from Colorado, St. Louis, you know, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.720 Houston and Dallas. Can they come on in and and 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.679 it's just kind of I've met so many people that 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.239 were just in town that you know, stumbled into our 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.840 yard and uh you wind up sitting on the front 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.359 porch or sitting on the stoop and just visiting and 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.320 and uh, you know they've become friends forever. So you know, 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.960 open house just just kind of roll with it. In 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.720 New Orleans is that kind of place that's cool. Uh. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.520 Back to football. So now you're your senior year at 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:50.240 high school. It's Peyton sophomore year, your receiver. You're already 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.040 established guy in the team. Here comes younger brothers are 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.200 already a pretty good quarterback. But talking about playing that 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.080 year together in high school football because I've heard Peyton 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.399 said that's his favor for a year in football, and 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.240 he's had some pretty good ones. I think it was 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.720 really special with my parents, to both of us being there, 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.840 and high school football is just so special and pure. 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.399 I mean, you do something great and everybody's excited to 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.240 do something wrong, and you know, and talks about it. 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:15.560 You know, it's just kind of one of those things. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.800 You drop the touchdown passing and you wide opening game 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.639 and you drop it. Everybody just it's not in the 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.119 paper and out on the coach. They're not, you know, 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.200 and so it's just, uh, it's still fun. And selfishly, 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.320 I love being you know, Friday nights right now we're 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.040 in the thick of that. But it was really fun 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.400 playing with Payton. We threw so much in the front 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:37.280 yard and just had such a chemistry that to finally 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.240 get to do it on Friday night when it mattered, 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.680 when it counted, was really fun. And it was kind 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.159 of the era of when throwing the ball was still 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.960 a little bit taboo. People were still kind of running 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.359 and you know, throwing eight times a game, and we 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.719 were throwing twenty five or thirty and he was a sophomore. 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.480 I think it's always kind of funny. I think some 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.959 people were looking at my film as like, Okay, this 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.680 kid can you know, play football? But who is this 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.440 little skinny sophomore putting it right here every time? So 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.840 I think, uh, it was any question that Peyton was 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.960 going to go on and do great things just by 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:14.000 by maybe scouting his older brother and you saw, you know, 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.320 a hundred and sixty pound quarterback that had a lot 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:21.800 of potential. The receiver quarterback relationship, the communications interesting on 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.440 and off the field, what is the veteran receiver communication 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.840 like with the with the young first year starting quarterback, 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.360 who who quarterback's role obviously just to kind of run 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:35.399 the show? Was it? Was it peaceful, combative, you know, 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.200 as you know Chris, receivers are open every time. So 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.800 I don't know, you know, I don't think he threw 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.600 me a lot of footballs and my dad and I think, 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.199 you know, it was a way too many of a 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.280 percentage of the of the routes going to me. I 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.720 don't think my my parents were kind of embarrassed walking 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.280 by the parents of those other receivers who were just 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.720 kind of catching a few and they were probably wide open, 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:00.440 and Payton still throwing and the kind get a break 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.679 over here. I know he's your brother, but I'm it 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:06.760 was it was. It was just as fun as it 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.520 could be. And uh, you know, as you kind of 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.640 have to, you kind of have to step back and say, 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.720 all right, you're a quarterback. You know it's your show. 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.119 He can't be running the show as a receiver. So 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:22.080 I think in some ways, even now, while I am 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.400 the older brother of Peyton, we are far more I mean, 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.160 it may have been reversed or definitely more peers than 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:32.240 I go. You know, it's kind of harder. He doesn't 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:38.600 he doesn't take you know, I guess, uh older, too old, 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.560 you don't take my advice very well and less unless asking. 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.320 Let's put it that way. I tell what you're you're 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.159 being careful in saying it, but I know I know 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.240 exactly what you mean, like, but it doesn't shift. S 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:51.879 does you get older? I mean my brother and I 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:53.959 both in our our fifties and in my late fifties, 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.879 and yes, there's I do. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.880 advice from him. Too off, and I think he's wiser 0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:01.720 and some areas he could give it, but it's just 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.400 not not in the in our relationship that he would 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.880 do that much. Yeah. The really the one Peyton does 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.119 lean on me and I'm grateful this because I love 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.080 it is when he's doing comedy, uh this this past 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.080 weekend he was supposed to be on He's on Saturday 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:17.959 a lot, and he said, well, you read this and 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.600 tell me because sometimes he doesn't even always get it. 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:21.919 And I'm like, yeah, if you were doing you know, 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.520 we can talk about it. And I guess sometimes when 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.159 it's uh, you know, on a on a close uh, 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.359 you know, a close call or down to the wire. 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.080 He'll lean on me and I can either say I 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.520 don't think I do this, and I think he does 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.800 actually value my opinion. But that's that's probably as qualified 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:44.800 as I get. No, you guys seem like natural performances, 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:46.919 and Payton Peyton shocks people when you get out there 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.720 and be pretty uninhibited and commit fully and start dancing 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.240 and doing stuff, or or firing a football off a 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.119 kid's head in a skin. I mean, what was that? 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.440 Just something that was innate with you guys to sort of, 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.679 I don't know, be free to try to be funny 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.359 or take a risk or be performers. You know. Chris, 0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.040 I think we were the oldest to grandchildren, so I'm 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.360 the oldest, paid the second oldest, so we always, I think, 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.960 had a pretty big audience. My parents on the couch, 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.639 my grandparents there, and some uncles who didn't have children yet. 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.160 So we're, you know, surrounded by a bunch of people saying, 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.960 let's let's show us how you learn how to do 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.600 a push up, do the jump ro do the pogo stick. 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.199 We'll put you in a figure four leg lock, just 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.480 you know, and then dance, tons of music, always on, 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.320 just dancing, you know, like John Travolta Saturday Night Fever. 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.640 Show us your moves, show us your new move. Uh, 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.680 Peyton was doing and he was showing off his three 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.240 step drop since he's been three years old. So I 0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.280 don't think being in front of a crowd, whether it 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.879 be you know, in Paint's case, you know, a stadium 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.679 full of people, much less an audience was was a 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.359 big deal. And I think my dad also, he always 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:56.280 kind of a lot of public speaking after after football 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:57.879 and even during so he always kind of made a 0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.359 big deal like it's really good if you could talk 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.280 in front of an audience and be comfortably. Kind of 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.720 wanted that to be something that came natural to us 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.680 and kind of, you know, pushed us towards that a 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.120 little bit if there was ever a chance to acceptable 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.440 or don't just get up there and you know, thank you, 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.480 it's great to be here. Really, you know, use it 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.159 as a time to kind of practice and own your skills. So, um, No, 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.520 Payton's really I mean he is. He is super comfortable 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.080 and I've done some public speaking things with him. He's excellent. 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.520 He's excellent and prepared and that's nothing. He can be prepared. 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.440 He didn't like a lot of all right, let's see 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.960 what happens, which I love, just you know far away. 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.880 I did a deal with Kirk herb Street one time 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:35.920 and he goes, I was filling in for my dad, 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:37.119 and I go, how do you want to do this? 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.679 He goes, Peyton likes everything scripted, and he goes, I 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.520 don't like the descript I go, I don't care what 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.520 the questions are. Let's do it. And we had a blast. 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.919 So it's just how you're wired. Yeah. I like the 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.639 ad lit part. I remember that anything you do with Peyton, 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.840 it's pretty well known you're not You're not supposed to 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.439 go off the page too much. He wants to know 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.600 what's coming, what the play call is, structure, and so 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.159 you get that message if you're gonna work. I like 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.360 the I like to wing it a lot better. It's 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.160 a lot more fun. Yeah. We I do some mode, 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.680 some do the moderator for him sometimes on some corporate 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.080 speaking sometimes and I love just every nine and then 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.280 just pull one out and he's like, that's not all 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.359 the script, you know, Like, no, it was on my script. 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:19.200 I don't know. So yeah, I saw Eli's show, and 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.320 you went on there and roasted him for for being 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.280 unqualified to be a talk show host. I thought that 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.159 was funny because I guess, unlike you guys, public speaking 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:30.080 didn't quite come as naturally to him. Eli was so shy. 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.040 I don't think he spoke till he was like sick. 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.760 I don't think he went outside till he was like ten. 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.320 He was just you know, being five years younger than 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.320 and we just he was just kind of sheltered. So 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.640 it has been such a phenomena to see him so 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.920 comfortable on the Monday night football gig and just sit 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.440 back there and kind of let it come to him 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:50.960 and Peyton's going on a hundred poules an hour and 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.640 him just picking his spots to make fun of him. 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.280 He is uh. I love seeing how comfortably he is 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.360 in his own skin. And he's always been comfortable. It's 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.880 just he's just been comfortable saying nothing. So now he's 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.400 got some stuff to say, which is uh. I love 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:07.320 seeing him succeed, you know, kind of outside football. Of course, 0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.040 Eli went to Ole Miss you did too, and you know, 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.440 and following your dad's footsteps and going to that school 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.880 and and taking all that on. I mean, I'm sure 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:19.800 you grew up loving All Miss, but what was the 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.160 recruitment process? What was your selection process like? Because people 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.680 don't realize this when when Archie went to Ole Miss, 0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.440 he didn't get a whole lot of offers. They sent 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.920 a graduate assistant as the as the legend has it 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.560 down to sign him, not even the head coach. And 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.360 he shows up in Oxford. He's like, there's like six 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.600 quarterbacks or seven quarterbacks on the roster and he's grinding 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.640 their way in the freshman team getting destroyed. So what 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.640 was it like for for you to, you know, get 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:48.080 recruited by by the Rebels. Well, yeah, I've grown up 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.080 going to Oxford a bunch and going to the Grove, 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.840 but just being fond of of Ole Miss and the 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.560 then you know, it was my parents both and my 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.040 mom was a homecoming queen. Dad was kind of the 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.320 star quarterback. See that just the the times, they're the 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.200 fun and all their friends were all Miss folks. So 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.640 it was it was kind of something you talked about 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.480 on those road trips to Oxford five hours back in 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.560 the day they had this to it just it seemed 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.680 like a great place to be in Oxford's a wonderful town. 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.080 But uh they came and offered me out of the 0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.440 gates Billy Brewer as a head coach and was one 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.760 of the first offers I ever got, and they stuck 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.800 with me, and uh, I had some other opportunities to 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.160 go to Virginia and Texas. It wasn't hugely recruited, but 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.520 it was a it was a great fit for me 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.440 and um, I love Oxford, still have a place there, 0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.480 and we'll always have a special place in Hart. You 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.520 can you can kind of separate the two sometimes, Chris, 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.160 as you know, you can love all miss and then 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:40.840 love Oxford and not. You don't have to love them 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.240 both to enjoy both. Vote well, I love Oxford, that's 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.560 for sure. And and being in the Grove is one 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.640 of the great experiences you can have as a sports fan. 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.200 You don't even have to be a college football fan 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.400 or or even know what football is, but just being 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.880 there and and taking that in is really cool. But 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.840 obviously you're you're set to go there, Cooper, and you 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.280 get the diagnosis after a process where you you're trying 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.440 to figure out what's going on right with your with 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.040 your arm and your dad is increasingly concerned and and 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.960 take us through that when when um, you finally arrive 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.640 at a diagnosis of spinal syenosis before you even get 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.080 to All Miss to play a freshman season, and and 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.600 and how tough that was. It was challenging because you go, 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.480 you know, you're still an athlete. You're up at You're 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.080 up at All Miss. You go through two and aged, 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.040 you're you're practicing, all your friends are in the locker 0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.280 room and in the athletic norman on the team, and 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:34.040 all of a sudden, finger work they were kind of 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.440 numb and it wasn't working and just didn't feel right. 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.240 As a receiver, one catches the ball like I want 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.760 to and the athletic trainer said, something doesn't match up here. 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.000 Let's go, let's go see some folks. It started to go, 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.080 went to the Mayo clinic, went out to the Baylor 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:51.520 UH to just get different diagnosis. And when it came 0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.680 to and they said, look, this is not good. You're 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.560 you're one hit away from you know, being in a wheelchair. 0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.400 Football is the last thing you need to be doing. 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.760 It's just heavy because your your eighteen, your this is 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.360 kind of what you got your heart set until You've 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.040 worked so hard for it, and all of a sudden 0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.840 they're just gonna take it away. And you don't feel terrible, 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:09.600 but they just said you can't play anymore. And that 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.680 was that was tough. You kind of had to, um, 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.840 I don't know, reinvent yourself. So I gotta find some 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:16.920 other things that I care about, I like about, I 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.840 like to do because you used to, you know, be 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.760 in the routine and having running and lifting and practice 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.280 every day. It was that was it was a challenge. 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.200 They're experts, but still as a kid, it's hard to 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.000 believe that. Wait, Abu, I've taken a lot of hits 0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:30.200 in football. What do you mean? What do you mean? 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.160 I'm a hit away, I've taken punishment. I'm a tough guy. 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.960 And and it doesn't seem real because you're you're in 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.280 the present right and you're not thinking about the close 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.520 calls you may have had before that. You're thinking about 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.840 what's taking if you're in the moment. And also, you 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.000 probably had your identity was probably tied up in football 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:49.640 and being a football player, and that's what you thought 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.520 your future was going to be, right and off to 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.880 the NFL at some point. That's kind of the way 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.640 you know, most eighteen year olds to go off to 0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.920 school do think, and so yeah, it was it was tough. 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.680 Parents were great. I think it. I think it rocked 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.720 Peyton a little bit. You know, he was there, he 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.440 is in high school, sixty and seeing his older brother 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.880 and his teammate all of a sudden, you know, he's 0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.760 he's fine, but he's he can't play anymore. I think 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.960 kind of made him appreciate every play could be your last. 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.520 And I think that's how we're doing it. You know, 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.280 at home right now, he'st you gotta you gotta have 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.640 a have a few backup plans in your hip because 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.800 this this is a tough game and doesn't last forever. 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.880 And uh shoot, Chris, I didn't get to find out 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.080 you do it. You can do a lot of things 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.800 in college when you don't have to be at the 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.160 training room at seven getting taped up. You know, I 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.480 utilize that time. I had a lot of fun. I 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.800 went to all these schools and went to go to 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.840 travel and see other friends that were at you know, 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.920 it's nothing to go see Georgia for a week and 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:46.840 go to TUSA looser and go to Knox spool and 0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.880 got to see Peyton play and all kind of fun 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.360 college site. So I took advantage of it, but I 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:57.400 certainly missed not playing. One of the things that I 0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.960 admire about you is the just the notion of accept 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.920 in life, acceptance of what the universe deals you. That 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:07.840 you can't control acceptance without being bitter or angry about 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.280 it or resentful about it, because that's not true acceptance. 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.600 I mean, how however you wrestled with that Cooper. Obviously 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.840 you've got two very famous brothers playing phenomenal careers. That 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.160 was part of your identity to I mean, how did 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:19.799 you arrive at that or was it just was it 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.319 easy for you to accept that right away the way 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.240 you did an adulthood I think a couple of things. 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.240 I think my parents were They were not super strict, 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.040 but we were not allowed to complain. You know, it 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.640 was not a place you could just complain. You gotta 0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:38.640 whatever whatever happened was was gonna happen, and you deal 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.120 with it and you put a slide on your face 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.919 to make the best of it. And I think, um, 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.640 I was certainly um. I wouldn't say I was ever 0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.520 jealous of Peyton. Me last career, but I was certainly 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.360 I was envious they were getting to do it, but 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.799 I was the biggest supporter of it. And I think 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.919 it also stems from my parents doing a good job 0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.279 of not making any of us more important the other. 0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.480 I mean, you know, hey, Payton's gonna play this game. 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.439 We want to go. We're both fighting our fingernails and 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.840 you know, and grinding it out and sad when we lost, 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.759 and thrilled and hugging when we won. So he did 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.120 a really good job, you know, in a guy in 0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.319 a in a in a way that it could very 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.799 easily you could have felt like, boy, this is I'm 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.960 kind of a third wheel here that sitting it sitting 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.400 as fun as it should be. I was so a 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.840 part of the whole situation. And uh, I mean kindly, 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.799 I cried after some games. It didn't sleep after we 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.399 lost the super Bowl and and didn't sleep and had 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:39.120 more fun when we won one. So it was I just, uh, 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:41.799 the way he handled that, it's given me a lot 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:43.879 of lessons to me. Now, I'm in a situation now 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.360 where I've got one son getting way too much attention 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.080 and the other ones are kind of and you gotta 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.399 it's it's a delicate balance. I'm trying to make sure 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.640 everybody knows that this is everybody's even here. Yeah, it's 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.879 easy to say you can't complain. As a parent, that's 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.560 a good lesson and and that's you'd love your kids 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.480 to to listen to it. But this is not whining 0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.359 or complaining about some homework, right, This is something that's 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:12.279 that's bigger than that. How is that ability to sort 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.600 of have acceptance and in such a dramatic way as 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.239 a young person shaped you throughout life when you have 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.320 the the ups and downs and the obstacles that that 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:26.319 are inevitably gonna come up. Well, I just I just 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:30.040 have a pretty cheery disposition. I don't like being around 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.520 a lot of seriousness. Maybe that's good or bad. I 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:39.680 like the good stuff, and I don't take myself too serious. 0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:44.600 I don't. I just I just really, uh, I feel 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:46.560 pretty fortunate to be where I am. I mean, hey, 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.880 it took what It's one thing I can't do is 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:53.160 played football. I get calls all the time, Chris, from 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.840 parents and kids who wind up they look on the 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.960 internet and I must be the first thing that shows 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.759 up next to spinals to knowes it because people get 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.960 it and you don't. You're not necessarily you know, hurting. 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.399 You just say, hey, you got a little ding here, 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.120 and it shows you shouldn't play football anymore. And I 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.879 get calls and I talked to tons of parents about, look, 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:14.480 this is a chance for you to now do some 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.520 things you probably never whatever thing to do. You know. 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.880 I had a great I had this. I had this 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.040 mother called me about her son. He was alignement in Ohio, 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.560 big kid, and uh founded, he can't play a senior 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.120 he was. He was really struggling. They were, you know, crying, 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.759 and I told him, look, he needs to try to 0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.640 do something else. Play the guitar, learning how to play golf, 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.279 go out for the school, play, just go do some 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.799 crazy stuff. And they called me. They were crying and 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.600 laughing because he had gone out for the men's volleyball 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.439 team and he was terrible, and they were they were 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.240 so excited that he was out there and they were laughing, 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.719 but they were crying. And I stayed in touch with 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.120 a lot of kids and a lot of their parents 0:37:58.160 --> 0:37:59.840 that have gone through the same thing, and it's just 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.560 it's just hand your debt. You can't do anything, and 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.960 if you're gonna dwell on it, you're gonna bring yourself down, 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.640 their bails down. It's I don't, I don't. I don't 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:09.239 have time for that. You don't have time for that. 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.120 It's time to move on and make the best of 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.600 it and keep living life. Well. I think it's an 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:18.480 awesome philosophy. Sometimes easier said than done. But to be 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.879 able to be a messenger to a lot of kids 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.000 who don't know what that at that moment, what they're 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.279 gonna do, but their identity is that's kind of neat, man, 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.160 that's kind of neat to be able to use a platform. 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.520 And and yes, your your name does come up when 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.799 you google that. Um people perhaps are relieved to find 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.560 that you're not struggling with paralysis or something else, because 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.560 that that can happen with with that and and so 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.080 I know you you wake up feeling lucky about your 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.000 your lot in life. I'm a lucky guy. I've got 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.160 I've got to do all kind of fun things and 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.320 I'm I'm enjoying every day. I really am. I'm excited 0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.040 to get to talk to you. Well, you you're in 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.719 the hotel business. The graduate hotels are it's an awesome idea. 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:02.520 I've stayed on a bunch of them around different college 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.319 towns are themed to that school. Um, you go to 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:10.759 UH graduate in in Eugene, Oregon, your room key might 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.040 be Phil Knight's student. I d that's a that's a 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.479 cool little thing. And there's ducks all over the wall. 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.600 But what a cool project. You can do all sorts 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.240 of things in in finance, what you've done and investing 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.320 in real estate, but when you get to do something 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.880 like that that that's connected to sports and has a 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.040 unique personality, that's neat. You guys, just keep building these hotels. 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.680 Now it's it's in the UK as well, right, Oh yeah, 0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.400 we're you know, this is two sec guys. My business 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.120 partner Ben Weapond, and it's just so smart and thoughtful 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.360 and creative. And I think he thinks I am smart 0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.480 and creative and I'm not. But as long as he 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.040 thinks that we got a good relationship. We have these 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.879 cool college towns, and I love college towns. Nothing better 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:53.840 in the world than going to a college town and 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.120 find it out. Where is the best barbecue joint and 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:57.799 where is the best place to get a cold beer 0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.680 or you know, or late night you know, where does 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:02.799 everybody go? I just I just love all that. So 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:04.879 now to be able to create an element of hospitality 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.120 and Chapel Hill and Oxford and Athens and ann Arbor 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.680 and Berkeley and Richmond and just be a part of 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.080 that is is really fun. And then and then to 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:18.160 be creative, like we're doing something in Madison, Wisconsin, and 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.680 all we do is start talking about, well, you know, 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.760 back to School with Rodney Dangerfield was filmed in Madison. 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.520 What you know, my favorite quote in the world is, 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.120 you know, look out for number one, but don't step 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.359 at number two. But Thornton Mellon, I mean, why is that? 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.760 How in the world was that ever gonna come in useful? 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.440 Coming playing at a business meeting? And sure enough with 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:42.759 the graduate everything's everything's green light. That's cool at college town, 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:44.920 spending a lot of time there and and liking to 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.920 wander the campuses and maybe uh yeah, wander into a 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.480 saloon or to any that those are fun environments, which 0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.640 I think about, how can we do a property that 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.959 Wisconsin fans are could connect with when when you know what, 0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:59.960 you could have jump around playing in the lobby, I guess, 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.640 But I mean that's that's pretty cool. That's different than hey, 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.120 let's make a generic business hotel attached to a conference 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.360 center somewhere. And Chris is what I like about it 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.399 more is that you know, an opposing team can come 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.920 to Indiana and appreciate the hotel in Bloomington if you're 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.880 an Iowa fan and not feel like you're in you know, 0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.840 bart stars room. It's not in your face like repentance 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:28.320 and posters. It's more storytelling and uh and cool stories 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.480 that are layered into that community to that college. And 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.640 so I love that they stay at one and they 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:33.960 want to go to stay at the other one. So 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.160 it's really a really fun project. Creative people, smart people. 0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.759 I'm I'm kind of tickled to be a part of it. 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.520 You mentioned your son arch name for your dad, which 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.359 I think is cool unless there are other archies before 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.759 him and the family, you know, being a quarterback. He's 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.400 still got another year of high school. But the recruiting 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:54.359 is is pretty crazy. It's pretty insane and maybe even 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.239 to the level that Peyton experienced or more. I mean, 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.759 what's it like, you know, being a dad and trying 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.439 to guide him through that as best you can. Uh, 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.960 it's yeah, everything starts so early now, Chris, I mean, 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:07.919 I don't you know, Peyton probably didn't get his first 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:11.160 letter until he was, you know, maybe a sophomore junior. 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.360 Then you you know, you're filling out your height and weight. 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:19.080 Now everything with social media and internet and just um, 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.640 it just gets accelerated. So and he got off to 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.680 a fast start and getting to play as a freshman. 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:25.920 So now with the even people are gonna be like, no, 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.600 he's not, he can't be a senior. He's been playing 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.840 for seven years. By it it seems like, you know 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.000 it's gonna last forever. Um. But he's getting a lot 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.080 of tension. But I think he's handling it really well. 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.000 Arch is a sweet kid and got a good good 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.000 head on his shoulders and loves his friends and loves 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.120 his teammates, and and uh, I think he's real. I 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.560 get I get nice. You know, I told Arch a 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.879 long time ago, you're gonna you're gonna get a lot 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.960 of attention both ways. And so if you can utilize 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.319 this platform to be kind to people, you're gonna get 0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:58.440 a lot of credit for it. And I get a 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:00.640 lot of people say, oh, you know, Art was overcame 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.800 over inself he's nice to my you know, son is 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:05.560 in eighth grade, and so I think he's got a 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:10.320 good um. Yeah, he's a good person, and I think, uh, 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.840 we'll see how the football works happen. He's kind of 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.640 trying to enjoy the process. Yeah. What something else that's 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.680 changed in the last few years is college athletes being 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.959 paid for name, image, and likeness. And some have played 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.279 the game very well, and some guys were able to 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.280 take care of their families while they were in college. 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:28.839 And I have to wait for a pro contract, which 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.080 is awesome, and many people think it's longer for do 0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.160 the players sharing it. But at the upper end of it, man, 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.400 it's pretty crazy. There's there's a website that estimates the 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.759 n i L value of prospects guys who haven't even 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:44.200 signed yet. Your son is right there with a a 0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:48.520 n i L valuation of one point six million. I mean, 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.319 are you aware of that? Did you see that? What's 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:55.239 your thoughts about that? I mean, I think that's I 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.319 don't know who came up with that number. I'm sure 0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.560 it's some twenty five year old recruiting coordinator goes, let's 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:05.360 throw a number. I don't that means, you know, squat. 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.719 So look, we're just we're just trying to you know, 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:12.440 pass chemistry and uh keep him out of the you know, 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.440 keep him out of jail during marti gras. Those are 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.480 our two goals in life right now. Well, I know 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.919 it's as a parent you want to be grounded, but listen, 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.440 as a young football player these days, I mean, it's 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.520 certainly a part of the recruitment process. It's a part 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.839 of the transfer portal process. I mean, you're very aware 0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.319 of what's going on in the sport, and it's just 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:32.840 a whole other world. I mean, it's layers that focusing 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.040 your era and certainly not your dad's there had ever 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.400 had to deal with it, are now a part of 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:43.840 being a sought after prospect in a college football environment. Now, yeah, 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.960 the whole, the whole game of college football seems to 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.000 have changed in the last three or four months, just 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:54.480 with the coaches moving around a lot, a lot more 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:58.960 frequently um and then the element of these big signing 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.759 bonuses and classes and recruiting and people moving around, not 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.759 a lot of no one, No one sits around and 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.880 because I'm gonna be a backup, I'm gonna work for 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.719 it for two or three years, everybody's onto the next thing. 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.120 So um, we're trying to just keep it. We're trying 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.279 to do the things. It's probably a little bit like 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.560 they used to be done back and you know, I 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:21.440 don't know fifteen years ago. Just try to, you know, 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.239 go pick a school that you like, the coaches that 0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.520 you liked, a place you think you'd be happy if 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.279 you weren't playing football, and get a good education, make 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.960 friends and and uh and try your best. So I 0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.120 know that sounds kind of simple and how do you 0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.920 do to you? But I think sometimes people can get 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.480 a little ahead of themselves and we're just you know, 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:41.719 these are eighteen year old boys that you're trying to 0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:45.920 just turning two men. And uh, I think whoever uh 0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.240 can do that the best is probably gonna get the guy. 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.280 I think being ground that is almost essential given the environment. 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:56.080 I mean, your dad being an all mislegend, that's where 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.440 you chose stead of his pretty simple choice. Then your 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.759 dad takes a lot of crap when Peyton doesn't go 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.399 to All Miss and goes to another SEC school. I mean, 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.200 we won't even joke about it. It It was some there 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.399 was some serious ugliness that we don't have to get into. 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.000 Then Eli goes to all mess and all is right 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.080 in the world. But now people are expecting Arch to 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.920 know it's it's just a lot of family history, a 0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.319 lot of a lot of stuff in there that if 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:22.200 you allowed it, if he allowed it, could could make 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:27.120 the process fraught, right, pressurized. I think still if you 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.799 really get into that. But I think, you know, I'm 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.400 trying to raise children to make decisions that are the 0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:36.359 best themselves. And I mean, I don't I don't know 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.280 where he's going. I don't really care. I just thinking, 0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:42.200 you know, I think he'll want him to make a 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.880 decision and live with it. And it's not gonna be easy. 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.160 All these places you go, whether you're playing sports or not, 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.120 you have you know, I don't like my chemistry teacher, 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.240 and he do. I've got to see, hey, deal with it. Ghost, 0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.799 you know, this is this is I like to try 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.440 to think I'm gonna make these kids tough and resilient 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:03.000 and deal with the hiccups and the curveballs and and 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.880 the speed bumps that come along the way. And football 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.520 has more of them than any of them. So um, 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.200 he'll he'll figure it out. Do the do the deligence 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.520 we're just trying to gut him along the process, and 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.200 we'll cheer for him and and uh and pick him 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.239 up when things don't go right. Perfectly said, you want 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.560 to give seminars to other parents who have hot prospects, 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.360 because that is that is the best way to the 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.600 no complaining family motto seems to be getting passed down 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:29.960 to another generation by you. Yeah, I just I was 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.840 like that even in this If I don't mind a complaint, 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.920 but let's have a solution. Don't just come in and 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.680 say you know so and so's you know, I just 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:39.840 don't have I don't have time for that sort of nonsense. 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:41.759 If you got it, you got it all fixed up 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.080 before you're gonna you know, something's broken and we're gonna 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.600 get it fixed. Great, But don't just tell me it's broken. 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:48.640 You know, come fix this. It doesn't work. It's just 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.600 too tight. I don't you know, I don't have I 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.080 don't have time for that nonsense. So that's one thing 0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:55.919 in high school. I wonder how you're gonna handle being, 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:57.960 you know, a parent when he does go off to college. 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.239 You seem to be pretty chilled, but you say you were, 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.040 you were invested at heavily invested when your brother's careers. 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.120 I'm sure you know, being a parents like another level. 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:09.160 But uh but that that'll be another interesting experience for you. 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.080 You know, Yeah, I wish I could have the temperament 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.600 of my My mother is just the coolest of all. 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.520 And she's I mean, she's been to six Super Bowls 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:22.320 and countless horrible baseball tournaments and crappy towns across the country, 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:26.000 and you know, win, lose or draw, she just gotta 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.680 always had the right perspective. Dad, it's over there with 0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:33.080 bloody fingernails, you know, pacing Giants stadium, looking for a 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.200 lucky spot next to him, hot dog vendor that they've 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.080 got a first down, so he's gonna stay there a 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.880 little longer. So I'm hoping I could get somewhere in 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.440 between there and have a little bit of balance. I'm 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.719 a little animated at times, um and uh so I'm 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.560 trying to figure it out as the stakes get higher. 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.920 We'll leave it with football. You talked about you know 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.800 what it meant to you, And I know you've spoken 0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.680 about what you what you missed when you weren't able 0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.759 to play, But but what is it about the game 0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:03.040 and relationships and the bonds that are formed because of 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.400 the challenges and the obstacles that that you think is special, 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.439 that you you witness firsthand as a player, as a brother, 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:13.080 and now as a parent. What is it about the game, Chris? 0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:14.919 I think I even saw a lot of that back 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.239 at the Whole of Fame this summer in camp. You know, 0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:19.799 you can see Peyton, see these guys who you know, 0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.520 certainly I got to know the Marvin Harrison's and the 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.560 Reggie Waynes, and you see guys who played against their 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.399 Ray Lewis. I got to go to some Pro Bowls. 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.360 Peyton and Eli were kind enough to always kind of 0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.279 have me in the loop. And uh, they all just 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.200 they all had to sacrifice. You know, you skip a 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.279 lot of fun things in college and pro to to 0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.640 to get there at the highest level. The extra work, 0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:44.520 the stuff you do when no one's looking, and and 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:49.480 just tough guys who were unselfish and uh and love 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.560 the game and and loved each other. And you know, 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.680 sometimes they got there. Sometimes sometimes they want and none 0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:57.960 of they lost, but they they left it all out there. 0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.160 And I think that it's kind of a neat fraternity 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.439 for uh, you know, retired players too. Sure it's fun 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.600 and sent back there and listen to the glory days 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.880 and the great stories. But I think it's uh, just 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:13.280 a mutual respect for across you know, and they across 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.360 the entire landscape of football players, whether it's your career 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.880 ended in eighth grade or with the high school whatever, 0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:23.000 bus rides and homecoming and cheerleaders and the band, and 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:25.799 it's just it's just Americana, and it's just a great 0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:28.120 thing to be a part of. And I again, I 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.640 I suggest, I know football sometimes it's had a few 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.719 little hiccups lately on on safety and concussions and what 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.680 have you. But I'm a big advocate of everybody. If 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.960 their son is debating whether the go foot play football 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:41.640 or not, I don't care if they play or not. 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.319 But being a part of a team and practicing and 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:48.520 sweating and two days and getting yelled at and uh, 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:52.560 you know and persevering is a part of and sometimes 0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:56.200 far more valuable than any touchdown or winning kick. It's 0:50:56.280 --> 0:51:00.840 it's it's uh, it helps you the long run. We 0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.480 talked about the radio show at the top. Is there 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:07.880 any creative outlet or avenue which the the manning brothers 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.439 performance skills could come to Bears. It is a three 0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:13.880 man Broadway show in the works. Is there you know 0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.120 a little singing and dancing and storytelling? Have you have 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:19.000 you work with any producers on some kind of project 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:22.439 like that that could bring you guys together in that way? Yeah, 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.360 I think we're really working on like an Oklahoma or 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:29.000 a Pippin or Joseph in the Technicolor dream Coat. I 0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:30.960 don't know, you can you can you give me in 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.160 touch with someone on Broadway. I think I've got big 0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.920 plans for us three. You know, there's a lot of 0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:37.759 weird stuff getting pitched. I mean, we could just add 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:42.600 that to the uh. I know, I got a lot 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.239 of people ask me when when I was gonna be 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:45.840 on the Monday night broadcast. I told her I was 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:50.640 holding out for overtime every time, but it never happened. So, um, 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.160 you know, I think we're probably gonna see some weird stuff. 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.480 It's fun to entertain it. I think it's good for 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:58.880 all this to kind of stretch, like your boundaries and 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.560 do some things you're not spoke do. Whether it's right 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.960 or wrong, it's still you know, sometimes the things that 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.720 go bad. Chris as you know, are always the greatest story. 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.160 No one still wants to talk about the perfect weather 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:13.080 and the boat was on time, and you know, I 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:16.280 got just the right amount of sun before I got sunburned, 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.560 and they want to hear about the boat broke down, 0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:21.560 sunburn Peyton, I got in a fight, the wives hating 0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.279 each other, the kids are crying, and you know, and 0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:26.920 we had made a land in Sacramento and stay there 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:30.879 for eight hours. Those are the best stories. And that's 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:34.040 another thing I really like about Cooper. You can always 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:37.000 find the funny, something that a lot of us could 0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.320 do a little bit better job of. Speaking of funny, 0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.400 we'll keep an eye out for that Manning Brothers Broadway musical. 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.520 Grateful to Cooper and then my co executive producer Jennifer 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.680 Dempster and A. Jason Whitehill for his editing skills. I'll 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:50.319 talk to you soon.