WEBVTT - Like a Virgin 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.680 Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Dared Haven 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:11.000 and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to an all 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.600 new episode of Help I Suck At Dating our special 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:18.520 Thursday episode, and we have two very special guests from 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:23.320 the documentary My Friend Tommy. We have Tommy Lee and 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:29.480 we have Nem Stankovic. Am I saying that properly? Stank 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.800 I'm so dude, I'm so bad at pronouncing names. It's terrible. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.240 But gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us on 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.960 the podcast. Oh, thank you for having us guys. Oh, 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:46.440 of course, of course. So I want to talk about 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.400 the documentary My Friend Tommy. So you guys talk about 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.280 a particular subject on here that doesn't get talked about 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.480 a lot. And I think it's really great that you 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.760 guys are open about it, because I feel like two 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:05.080 gentlemen who are in your position would feel certainly feel 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.320 insecure about talking about So let's start with you, Tommy. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.200 I mean the documentaries called My Friend Tommy. So tell 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.080 us a little bit about it. Yes, So basically, uh, 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:21.080 member of Santrovich and myself. Well, we're on a quest 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.160 as a real life four year o virgin and uh, 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.880 there was a quest to uh, you know, find a girlfriend, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.399 get laid. That was the quest originally. But during the 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.959 process the journey, I find out more about my adulthood, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.080 more about myself, and in that same process a bond 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.319 starts to form between myself and them and the rest 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.800 of the crew in the cast, we start to really 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.440 bond together, grow together. As the journey continued throughout the 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.800 US and basically hit up the U. S. Cities, New 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:58.440 York City, Miami, uh, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and l 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.920 A and I believe we are in Death Valley as 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.240 well in other spots. And yeah, it was just you know, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.120 in the beginning, you know them, I needed help with 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.880 the ladies and uh and then was there to come 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.080 in and say, I'll help you with the ladies. Let's 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.040 go on this historic journey. And that's what we did. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.960 But in the process of me trying to find that 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.000 the right um, right woman in my life, I found 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.040 out more about myself and I grew more into adulthood 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.160 during the journey. So it was the most amazing experience. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.880 I believe I can't speak on behalf of them and 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.960 the crew, but one of the most amazing experience I've 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.560 ever had so well, so so Tom or or them. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.000 I guess you can answer this too. How did this 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:44.840 whole thing come about? Where did like, how did you 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.560 guys meet? How did you get this idea to make 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.400 a documentary about it? Uh? I mean I mean and 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.320 then I looked real quick after this like yeah, basically 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.400 yeah he Uh. Then I was like, hey, I'm gonna 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.840 help you out with the ladies because I said, then 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.639 help me with the ladies. Helping with the ladies man 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.000 back and we were in college and then being the 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.200 best friend of me, he was like, yeah, okay, let's go, Bubble, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:10.000 go on this journey find that lady for you and 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.280 gave me challenges along the way. But yeah, that's how 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.600 it came about in college. He just came up and 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.040 he's like, you know, I'll help you with the ladies, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.160 but let's go on this historic journey. And then have 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:26.560 you been a bit of a ladies man your whole life? Well? 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.639 I guess not my whole life, but being six ft 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.160 nine and being a professional basketball player definitely helped me 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:38.240 as I transitioned into becoming a comedian. I think it 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.760 just kind of I've had my foot in a in 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.200 a number of you know, industries, starting with sports and 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.480 then entertainment, comedy. Then I became a rapper, which was 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.920 completely out of left field and random because I started 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:57.280 doing parody songs and it became, you know, a career 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.960 on the side. Um. But I so basically, I was 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.720 playing basketball in the States. I was playing in Chicago 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.800 and Tennessee. Then I played pro briefly. I had a 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.440 had an injury. I came back home to Toronto and 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.520 went to went back to film school to finish my degree. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.160 In the Furst day of school, I see this dude 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.240 who's like, hey, guys, come by. We're doing a karaoke 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.560 night on Thursday. And I'm like, oh cool, it's a 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:28.760 young professor inviting students out um to karaoke night or 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.560 a t A. And then I went it was like 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.560 a movie. I wish I got this in the movie. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.720 I went to get a drink at the water fountain 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.520 and it was like I was bent over and he's like, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.320 hey bro. I'm like I turned around, like he's like, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.640 do you play for the Rams. I'm like yeah, man. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.640 He's like, oh I always want to be a basketball player. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.280 And I'm like, oh cool, are you professor? Here a 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.040 t A. He's like, oh, no, first your student, first student. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.680 I'm like, okay, man cool. So basically, like Tommy was 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.839 at our school because Tommy is an on their sports 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.680 personality and his dream is to be kind of like 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:08.560 Thenard War sports, and I was a former athlete, you know, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:13.520 studying film and television to get into comedy. And basically 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.440 that's how it started. Like our connections started over basketball. Um, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.479 we would spend many nights together in these computer labs 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.080 working on these assignments. All these students would and uh 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.720 the students would stay until five am, and Tommy would 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.520 leave at eleven pm sharp every night. And I'm like, dude, 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.640 they have a beer, smoke a j chill out or 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.720 doing the same assignments we're staying up all night in 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.280 And then after seeing him leave every night at eleven sharp, 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.560 I'm like, yo, bro, like what's going on? Like, like 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.560 why do you always leave it eleven sharp? He's like, oh, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.760 you know all Asian And I'm just like, oh, no, 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.640 I don't know how old are you, bro? And he's like, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:59.520 uh six, and I'm just say oh. And then I 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.039 started any more and more we became close friends and 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.760 I'm like you're a virgin oright, and he's like no, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.320 I'm like, yeah, you are, Like okay, but don't tell anyone. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.640 I'm like everybody got kind of already knows. But like, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.880 and he was always like helping with the ladies, helping 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.360 with the ladies. And I'm like, I mean, I think 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.360 at the time, I was in a relationship with like 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.320 sociopathic narcissist and I was just like, all right, let's 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.720 go for a road trip. Man, let's um like my 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.880 relationship was ending. I was just like, let's let's get 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.120 it started out as a browthing. I'm like, let's get 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.120 you laid. But then I realized, like he still had 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.760 a curfew with his Christian Grean parents, he had never 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.200 cooked the meal, he had never made his bed, And 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.840 I'm like, yo, this is bigger than sex. This is 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.160 like this is this begs the question like what does 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.560 it mean to be an adult? So like that's how 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.360 it started, and we decided to take our time with it. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.280 And it took years and years to finish. And you know, 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.280 the film him as a quest for Tommy to rediscover 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.920 his adulthood. Uh, and you know he's at the time, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.080 he's like a real life four year old virgin. He's 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:14.040 about to term forty in the movie and he's trying 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.080 to figure it out and in every city we throw 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.160 him and then you adult challenge. So the first day 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.280 was like, you gotta get a phone number and like 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.720 to for reference. He had never even told a girl 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.800 that he liked her, and basically, uh, like he was 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.760 seeing these girls like passed by on Facebook life passed 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.720 by before him, and like they were having kids and 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.240 families and getting married. So like the first day were like, 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.800 get a phone and he's like, it's like we asked 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.920 him a murder someone. So it was like it was wild, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:08:04.040 but that's how I started. Yeah, sometimes I gotta ask you. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.040 Then it sounds like them was saying, how uh at 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.480 first you weren't willing to admit that you hadn't had 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.480 sex with with anyone, but then you eventually came into it, right, 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.040 So was it something you were always not like embarrassed by, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.160 but just didn't admit freely and then you kind of 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.280 grew into that that's like being able to talk about it. Yeah, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:26.239 great question. Uh, absolutely absolutely, I was at that time 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:31.520 ashamed to admit um I was a virgin at that time. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.800 And I also ashamed that, you know, about my age 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.520 as well, because I was older than them, and the 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.120 other classmates of mine there were more younger than I was. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.560 So yeah, thought there's this like stereotype still to this 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.040 day that um, it's it's shameful to say you were 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.320 a burden in public, especially when you're in a university 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.040 with thousands of kids like them, and I graduated from 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:57.040 one of the biggest universities in Canada. Uh So it 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.240 was basically, yeah, it was just being a shame aimed 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.800 and it's just tough for a young, um adolescent male 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.280 or female to be like, oh, you know, I can't 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.320 I'm just so ashamed being a virgin, Like it's just 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.600 so uncool. But that's another thing that uh, this movie 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.840 will we want them and I want to bring out 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.280 that message that you know, ten years from now, when 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.360 we have kids and our kids are growing up there 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.280 walking the hallways and their high schools, our kids are 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.200 in college, walking the campuses, and they won't be ashamed 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.839 to admit that, you know, hey, I'm proud to be 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.360 a virgin. Hopefully at that time twenty three years from all, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.560 to be rock and our virgin shirts at that our kids, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.680 but and our grandkids. But yeah, what we want to 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.600 do change it. I'll tell you what. I think it's 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.680 awesome that you're even having a conversation about it. I 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.920 think you opening up and sharing your story is only 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.880 gonna make other people that it may be, are in 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:53.640 a similar situation feel more seen, more heard, and less like, 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.200 you know, ostracized, I guess from the other people. So 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:57.400 I think it's I think it's really great what you 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.760 guys are doing. And um, Tommy, obviously it takes a 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.840 lot of courage to to stand up say it and 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.520 and have a documentary filmed about your experience. So uh, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.800 really cool. I'm really impressed that you guys are able 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.720 to do that for sure. Yeah, and Tommy, I don't 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.640 think you're alone, you know. I think there's a lot 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.440 of people out there, even if they're not virgins. There's 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.040 a lot of guys out there who have difficulty you know, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:25.120 talking to people they are attracted to and or you know, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.760 for lack of a better word, like having sex with girls. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.000 You know, Like I remember even in my you know, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.880 adolescent years before my wife, Um, because my wife was 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.760 very open about her virginity. Um, you know, when we 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.400 first met, she was twenties seven, um, and a virgin 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.480 and was very open and honest about it. And I 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.160 do think that there is a difference between when a 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.559 woman amidst that she's a virgin and a guy, because 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.959 it just seems like, you know, guys are supposed to 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.040 like that, Like it's just like this thing of like 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.480 there's a lot of I think misconceptions with men and sex. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.600 One it's like, oh, guys have sex all the time 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.320 with girls and they just like bring anything home or 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.319 even like during the act of sex. It's like, oh, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.240 guys are supposed to just like be able to have 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.200 sex any minute of every day, like they're always ready 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:10.840 to go. And it's like, oh, that's just not the case. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.600 I hate to break the news to you. Um. So 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.079 I love that you're doing this. I love that you 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.719 guys are rocking the virgin shirts to really like, you know, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.360 make it known that like this is the thing that 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.400 that a lot of people go through and it's just 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.800 not you, Tommy, It's it's tons of people. And so 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.240 I think it's great what you're doing. So, Tommy, how 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.000 is this experience? Uh, you know, you say that you 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.640 learned a lot about not only you know, relationships, but 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.000 about yourself. So I guess what is like one of 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.319 the things that you're gonna take with you from going 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.920 on this experience and having them challenge you in different ways. Wow, 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.520 you guys are coming up with the hard hitting questions. Well, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.040 I appreciate the beasts in the game. That's the job. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.520 This is not our first rodeo, absolutely not, absolutely not. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.679 Uh yeah, well I would like to take from this 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.320 just um a couple of quick things is uh, basically 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.679 I would like to take of course, like I'm more 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.840 confident now, like when approaching uh woman, I'm more confident 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.120 in myself, uh, in my own uh, in my own skin, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.280 and I'm not afraid to you know, talk with them 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.800 to you know, ask them if you know they want 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.439 to go off for coffee, they want to go out 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.560 for a movie. Not fear of rejection either. Like man, 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.840 before I met them, guys, I always like I would 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.000 always be sensitive like, oh, why uh why isn't this 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.200 uh you know this so lady talking to me, like 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.560 why did she just walk away with a snarky face 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.360 on her right? And I get sensitive about that? Now 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.440 don't care? Move on? To the next. If if someone 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.760 else doesn't like you or whatever, like, who cares? So 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.880 I take that one with me more confident in myself 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.680 approaching woman. Uh. Secondly is basically, um, you know they'll 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.600 like on them knows this. Basically I learned more about 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.400 know this pertains to the topic, but learn more about 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.760 how important family is, how family it's definitely important. While 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.960 I was in this journey with them and the crew 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.880 and the cast, I basically, you know, he started to 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.360 h M, your family realized how important family is. You 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.360 only have one mom, you have only have one dad, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.160 You only have one sibling in the world that will 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.520 back you up. So I mean it's weird in no way, Like, yeah, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.400 my quest was to get laid, But what I found 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.640 out most is that after this, family is so important. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.520 So I mean the relationship. When I came back, I 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.760 just got stronger with my parents and my brother, especially 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.600 my dad. I wasn't so great when I was in 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.520 high school. I played a role too. I wasn't the 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.240 best high school son in the world. But um, when 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.439 I came back, I was just changed. Man. Dad actually 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.320 thought I was a mutant that got abducted by an 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.040 alien and sent him back and sent me back here 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:53.840 because I was just so nice to him when I 0:13:53.880 --> 0:14:00.320 came back from the dad, Thanks, everyone's a mutant, my 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:07.920 mutant son. Oh you big mutant boy. Uh yeah, we're 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.839 both mutants, that's for sure. And his dad's defense. Then 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.000 I could see six nine guy walking in and he 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.840 would I could see why he would say that. But 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:17.559 and then I got a question for you. Do you 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.240 have any experience with this type of like filming or 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.520 creating films or anything like that before this? Yeah? Uh well, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.440 I you know, my biggest influences there seth Rogan, Key 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:32.800 and Peel, Jim Carey, Tom Greene. Um. So I yeah, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.520 that's why I was there. I was there to become 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.040 a filmmaker. Um. I was also stand up comedian at 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.520 the time for about three and a half years. I 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.880 was kind of transitioning out of my sports life. So 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:49.160 I I did have experience doing short films here and there. Um, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.280 you know, this film took years and years. Most most 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.080 filmmakers start out by doing like, I don't know, five 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.960 to ten shorts before their feature film. I took five 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.960 to ten years making one epic documentary about my best friend. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.200 And you can see it when you watched it. But 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.160 I wasn't gonna touch on what you guys were talking 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:15.200 about with like relatability to men and like healthy masculinity, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.880 UM and sexuality for men, because this, you know, this 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:25.320 started like and like I said, it started out as 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.520 a kind of like a funny thing because I was 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.640 trying to trying to be a filmmaker, but I was 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.000 also trying to help my friend. Um. But through that 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.960 process it became something much bigger and much deeper, and 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.000 you know, I had to do my research. And doing 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.000 my research, I found out a lot of crazy information, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.680 really important information that there are hundreds of millions of 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.160 adult virgins in the world. Um, they're the largest silence 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:57.160 demographic in the world. They spent across geography or race, religion, creed, um, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.560 and basically they're everywhere, and they're hundreds of different sub 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:07.080 communities within the adult virginity. You have the adult virgin community, sorry, 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.880 and basically it spans from people who you know, I 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.640 grew up in religious or strict conservative households and didn't 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:19.160 develop the adult skills. Usually the virginity is not the 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.040 main aspect of it. It's it's just an outcome of 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.760 something bigger. Um. Some people grew up in secular homes 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.760 that are traumatic, and you know, they weren't able to 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:34.160 develop as adults. Other people, basically they choose to be virgins, 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.440 whether they're secular or religious, they just choose to be 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.240 virgins for the whatever their reason is. Usually they want 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.440 to find the right person. And uh, it's it's about 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.240 one and twenty people in North America, it's about one 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:51.200 in ten in Asia, and it's rapidly growing because you know, 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.600 we have our phones and apps and technology that's supposed 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.240 to bring us together, but ironically it's isolating us in 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.920 terms of divel other being, face to face personal skills. Um. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.919 So this is like a topic that we want to 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.080 be the trailblazers of and kind of bring this conversation 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.640 to light because there's so many guys and women, Like 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.119 you said your wife was a virgin at twenty seven. 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.520 I have like a few bombshell female friends who are 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.760 also twenty seven and their virgins, and they're like, this 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.000 movie is for me. These are my people, and like 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.840 it's just like you wouldn't expect it, but like adult 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.920 virgins are everywhere, and you know they they've been kind 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:39.159 of uh, voiceless because obviously there's a degree of shame 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:44.240 to adult adult virginity. Basically, like you don't go to 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:45.760 a bar and say, by the way, I'm a thirty 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.959 seven year old virgin or I'm a fifty two year 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.720 old virgin. If you're even going to the bar, you 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.840 keep that to yourself because society still has kind of 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.640 like that high school mentality like yo, bro, this guy 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.000 is still a virgin. Bro, come on, bro, come out 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.000 with me. I'll get to lef or like girls are like, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.000 oh my god, she just needs to get that over with. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.720 Like there's still meant that mentality and nobody even knows 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.760 they exist. So I'm like, it's what it's a It's like, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.280 we got to talk about this, and we we chose 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.960 to talk about it through Tommy story. I mean, we're 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.360 not a social commentary film by any means, but we 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.359 we choose to bring that social commentary through the film 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.320 and through Tommy's story and bring light kind of like 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:32.800 a voice to the voiceless and normalize and destigmatize this conversation. 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.120 And we shouldn't be judging people, you know, by their 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.760 body count or like their political or sexual orientations. We 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.080 should be judging each other based on our characters and 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.720 our hearts, and that's kind of like what we stand for. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:56.840 I'm on the website right now and I see this 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.880 quote here where it says Tom is a real deal 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.040 version of many things now just the act of sex. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.520 And I think that's really interesting too, because and I'm 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.320 sure you guys could expand on a little bit more, 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.960 but it seems like the film outlines many other things 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.959 other than just the quest for like you said, uh, 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.440 body count, I guess right. So so Tom, how has 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.120 that been for you? Do you still live at home? Um? 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.000 Do you find yourself being more independent nowadays post post 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.440 documentary and everything? Uh? Yeah, absolutely, Well, first off, you 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.600 guys gotta watch the movie. Yeah, but uh but what 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.719 I can't answer is, uh yeah, more more and definitely 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.480 more independent on myself. Uh And as I stayed before, 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:42.280 the confidence level uh within myself has skyrocket. It's since 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.959 uh finishing up the journey with them and all my 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.160 friends and the crew and the cast. But yeah, it's 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:53.480 just uh yeah, once again, like you know, like them 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.480 has been saying basically, he saw the change in me 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.760 from the beginning to the end. Since we started this journey, 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.600 So I mean, yeah, confidence is there, and I just 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.480 I really want people to take from this movie as well. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.720 I'm sure them is too. Um, if he agrees with me, 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.760 is that you know, yeah, oh wow, he's on the 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.560 quest to get laid. But basically from this movie, like 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.919 like we were talking about, like how you know, people 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.120 will perceive the word virgin a different, more positive light 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:28.320 after watching this movie. And also from this movie, it's 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.200 not just about my quest to get late. It's about 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.040 a journey that a group of friends take together and 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.440 how they grow together on the screens. Just a beautiful 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:42.679 thing to see. So that's why absolutely, um, both of 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.760 you guys and everyone l a and just you know, 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.760 hopefully down the road the world will will watch it. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.000 It's a it's a beautiful thing. It's just how it's 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.840 the one and present. It's just amazing. You get to 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.879 see him do laundry for the first time, and it's beautiful, 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.800 including cooking and humbles you. By the way, I was 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.680 gonna ask, and based off of those two stories and 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.280 the screen grab I see from the film, there's gotta 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:08.760 be a lot of comedic moments in it, right, Like 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:10.679 I would say that's gotta be the underlying tone more 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.040 or less. Oh yeah, if I could go quick now, man, 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.920 we had just at this chemistry like I mean, I 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.480 don't know if you guys know the legendary long before 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.800 our time, Laurel and Hardy like they were like a 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.560 legendary comedic due never knows who they are. I mean 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.760 we had that. We always have that presence out like 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:32.840 but we're not filming where we're best friends, so we 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.600 always have that comedic. I think you can ask our 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.240 friends that hang out with us. But like all this, yeah, 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.280 I was, I was like, wow, we have this chemistry that. 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.960 I was really shocked. It was funny. It was funny comedy. 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:45.760 I don't know if it was funny for us at 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.520 that time because you know, me and then being brothers 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.760 we get into dust ups, but I mean watching it, 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:55.760 I was like, wow, like, man, we have that Laurel Hardy, 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.320 uh you know, comedic duol or whatever other look like 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.600 Jackie and Chris Tucker community duel there. But yeah, I 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:07.440 was surprising to see, uh the magic there. Yeah, well, 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.280 I'm not gonna I was gonna ask how because I 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.520 was very curious Tommy, A lot of people I feel 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.040 like are can relate to you about how they feel 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.560 insecure talking to people at bars, or trying to hit 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.760 on women um or women hit on men, or men 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.679 hit on men, so on and so forth, like just 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.119 hitting on people that you're attracted to. And I wanted 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.600