Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Dared Haven
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to an all
Speaker 1: new episode of Help I Suck At Dating our special
Speaker 1: Thursday episode, and we have two very special guests from
Speaker 1: the documentary My Friend Tommy. We have Tommy Lee and
Speaker 1: we have Nem Stankovic. Am I saying that properly? Stank
Speaker 1: I'm so dude, I'm so bad at pronouncing names. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: But gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Oh, thank you for having us guys. Oh,
Speaker 1: of course, of course. So I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the documentary My Friend Tommy. So you guys talk about
Speaker 1: a particular subject on here that doesn't get talked about
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think it's really great that you
Speaker 1: guys are open about it, because I feel like two
Speaker 1: gentlemen who are in your position would feel certainly feel
Speaker 1: insecure about talking about So let's start with you, Tommy.
Speaker 1: I mean the documentaries called My Friend Tommy. So tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about it. Yes, So basically, uh,
Speaker 1: member of Santrovich and myself. Well, we're on a quest
Speaker 1: as a real life four year o virgin and uh,
Speaker 1: there was a quest to uh, you know, find a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: get laid. That was the quest originally. But during the
Speaker 1: process the journey, I find out more about my adulthood,
Speaker 1: more about myself, and in that same process a bond
Speaker 1: starts to form between myself and them and the rest
Speaker 1: of the crew in the cast, we start to really
Speaker 1: bond together, grow together. As the journey continued throughout the
Speaker 1: US and basically hit up the U. S. Cities, New
Speaker 1: York City, Miami, uh, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and l
Speaker 1: A and I believe we are in Death Valley as
Speaker 1: well in other spots. And yeah, it was just you know,
Speaker 1: in the beginning, you know them, I needed help with
Speaker 1: the ladies and uh and then was there to come
Speaker 1: in and say, I'll help you with the ladies. Let's
Speaker 1: go on this historic journey. And that's what we did.
Speaker 1: But in the process of me trying to find that
Speaker 1: the right um, right woman in my life, I found
Speaker 1: out more about myself and I grew more into adulthood
Speaker 1: during the journey. So it was the most amazing experience.
Speaker 1: I believe I can't speak on behalf of them and
Speaker 1: the crew, but one of the most amazing experience I've
Speaker 1: ever had so well, so so Tom or or them.
Speaker 1: I guess you can answer this too. How did this
Speaker 1: whole thing come about? Where did like, how did you
Speaker 1: guys meet? How did you get this idea to make
Speaker 1: a documentary about it? Uh? I mean I mean and
Speaker 1: then I looked real quick after this like yeah, basically
Speaker 1: yeah he Uh. Then I was like, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help you out with the ladies because I said, then
Speaker 1: help me with the ladies. Helping with the ladies man
Speaker 1: back and we were in college and then being the
Speaker 1: best friend of me, he was like, yeah, okay, let's go, Bubble,
Speaker 1: go on this journey find that lady for you and
Speaker 1: gave me challenges along the way. But yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: it came about in college. He just came up and
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, I'll help you with the ladies,
Speaker 1: but let's go on this historic journey. And then have
Speaker 1: you been a bit of a ladies man your whole life? Well?
Speaker 1: I guess not my whole life, but being six ft
Speaker 1: nine and being a professional basketball player definitely helped me
Speaker 1: as I transitioned into becoming a comedian. I think it
Speaker 1: just kind of I've had my foot in a in
Speaker 1: a number of you know, industries, starting with sports and
Speaker 1: then entertainment, comedy. Then I became a rapper, which was
Speaker 1: completely out of left field and random because I started
Speaker 1: doing parody songs and it became, you know, a career
Speaker 1: on the side. Um. But I so basically, I was
Speaker 1: playing basketball in the States. I was playing in Chicago
Speaker 1: and Tennessee. Then I played pro briefly. I had a
Speaker 1: had an injury. I came back home to Toronto and
Speaker 1: went to went back to film school to finish my degree.
Speaker 1: In the Furst day of school, I see this dude
Speaker 1: who's like, hey, guys, come by. We're doing a karaoke
Speaker 1: night on Thursday. And I'm like, oh cool, it's a
Speaker 1: young professor inviting students out um to karaoke night or
Speaker 1: a t A. And then I went it was like
Speaker 1: a movie. I wish I got this in the movie.
Speaker 1: I went to get a drink at the water fountain
Speaker 1: and it was like I was bent over and he's like,
Speaker 1: hey bro. I'm like I turned around, like he's like,
Speaker 1: do you play for the Rams. I'm like yeah, man.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh I always want to be a basketball player.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh cool, are you professor? Here a
Speaker 1: t A. He's like, oh, no, first your student, first student.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, man cool. So basically, like Tommy was
Speaker 1: at our school because Tommy is an on their sports
Speaker 1: personality and his dream is to be kind of like
Speaker 1: Thenard War sports, and I was a former athlete, you know,
Speaker 1: studying film and television to get into comedy. And basically
Speaker 1: that's how it started. Like our connections started over basketball. Um,
Speaker 1: we would spend many nights together in these computer labs
Speaker 1: working on these assignments. All these students would and uh
Speaker 1: the students would stay until five am, and Tommy would
Speaker 1: leave at eleven pm sharp every night. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: they have a beer, smoke a j chill out or
Speaker 1: doing the same assignments we're staying up all night in
Speaker 1: And then after seeing him leave every night at eleven sharp,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, bro, like what's going on? Like, like
Speaker 1: why do you always leave it eleven sharp? He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know all Asian And I'm just like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know how old are you, bro? And he's like,
Speaker 1: uh six, and I'm just say oh. And then I
Speaker 1: started any more and more we became close friends and
Speaker 1: I'm like you're a virgin oright, and he's like no,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you are, Like okay, but don't tell anyone.
Speaker 1: I'm like everybody got kind of already knows. But like,
Speaker 1: and he was always like helping with the ladies, helping
Speaker 1: with the ladies. And I'm like, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: at the time, I was in a relationship with like
Speaker 1: sociopathic narcissist and I was just like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: go for a road trip. Man, let's um like my
Speaker 1: relationship was ending. I was just like, let's let's get
Speaker 1: it started out as a browthing. I'm like, let's get
Speaker 1: you laid. But then I realized, like he still had
Speaker 1: a curfew with his Christian Grean parents, he had never
Speaker 1: cooked the meal, he had never made his bed, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is bigger than sex. This is
Speaker 1: like this is this begs the question like what does
Speaker 1: it mean to be an adult? So like that's how
Speaker 1: it started, and we decided to take our time with it.
Speaker 1: And it took years and years to finish. And you know,
Speaker 1: the film him as a quest for Tommy to rediscover
Speaker 1: his adulthood. Uh, and you know he's at the time,
Speaker 1: he's like a real life four year old virgin. He's
Speaker 1: about to term forty in the movie and he's trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out and in every city we throw
Speaker 1: him and then you adult challenge. So the first day
Speaker 1: was like, you gotta get a phone number and like
Speaker 1: to for reference. He had never even told a girl
Speaker 1: that he liked her, and basically, uh, like he was
Speaker 1: seeing these girls like passed by on Facebook life passed
Speaker 1: by before him, and like they were having kids and
Speaker 1: families and getting married. So like the first day were like,
Speaker 1: get a phone and he's like, it's like we asked
Speaker 1: him a murder someone. So it was like it was wild,
Speaker 1: but that's how I started. Yeah, sometimes I gotta ask you.
Speaker 1: Then it sounds like them was saying, how uh at
Speaker 1: first you weren't willing to admit that you hadn't had
Speaker 1: sex with with anyone, but then you eventually came into it, right,
Speaker 1: So was it something you were always not like embarrassed by,
Speaker 1: but just didn't admit freely and then you kind of
Speaker 1: grew into that that's like being able to talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great question. Uh, absolutely absolutely, I was at that time
Speaker 1: ashamed to admit um I was a virgin at that time.
Speaker 1: And I also ashamed that, you know, about my age
Speaker 1: as well, because I was older than them, and the
Speaker 1: other classmates of mine there were more younger than I was.
Speaker 1: So yeah, thought there's this like stereotype still to this
Speaker 1: day that um, it's it's shameful to say you were
Speaker 1: a burden in public, especially when you're in a university
Speaker 1: with thousands of kids like them, and I graduated from
Speaker 1: one of the biggest universities in Canada. Uh So it
Speaker 1: was basically, yeah, it was just being a shame aimed
Speaker 1: and it's just tough for a young, um adolescent male
Speaker 1: or female to be like, oh, you know, I can't
Speaker 1: I'm just so ashamed being a virgin, Like it's just
Speaker 1: so uncool. But that's another thing that uh, this movie
Speaker 1: will we want them and I want to bring out
Speaker 1: that message that you know, ten years from now, when
Speaker 1: we have kids and our kids are growing up there
Speaker 1: walking the hallways and their high schools, our kids are
Speaker 1: in college, walking the campuses, and they won't be ashamed
Speaker 1: to admit that, you know, hey, I'm proud to be
Speaker 1: a virgin. Hopefully at that time twenty three years from all,
Speaker 1: to be rock and our virgin shirts at that our kids,
Speaker 1: but and our grandkids. But yeah, what we want to
Speaker 1: do change it. I'll tell you what. I think it's
Speaker 1: awesome that you're even having a conversation about it. I
Speaker 1: think you opening up and sharing your story is only
Speaker 1: gonna make other people that it may be, are in
Speaker 1: a similar situation feel more seen, more heard, and less like,
Speaker 1: you know, ostracized, I guess from the other people. So
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's really great what you
Speaker 1: guys are doing. And um, Tommy, obviously it takes a
Speaker 1: lot of courage to to stand up say it and
Speaker 1: and have a documentary filmed about your experience. So uh,
Speaker 1: really cool. I'm really impressed that you guys are able
Speaker 1: to do that for sure. Yeah, and Tommy, I don't
Speaker 1: think you're alone, you know. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people out there, even if they're not virgins. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there who have difficulty you know,
Speaker 1: talking to people they are attracted to and or you know,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, like having sex with girls.
Speaker 1: You know, Like I remember even in my you know,
Speaker 1: adolescent years before my wife, Um, because my wife was
Speaker 1: very open about her virginity. Um, you know, when we
Speaker 1: first met, she was twenties seven, um, and a virgin
Speaker 1: and was very open and honest about it. And I
Speaker 1: do think that there is a difference between when a
Speaker 1: woman amidst that she's a virgin and a guy, because
Speaker 1: it just seems like, you know, guys are supposed to
Speaker 1: like that, Like it's just like this thing of like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I think misconceptions with men and sex.
Speaker 1: One it's like, oh, guys have sex all the time
Speaker 1: with girls and they just like bring anything home or
Speaker 1: even like during the act of sex. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: guys are supposed to just like be able to have
Speaker 1: sex any minute of every day, like they're always ready
Speaker 1: to go. And it's like, oh, that's just not the case.
Speaker 1: I hate to break the news to you. Um. So
Speaker 1: I love that you're doing this. I love that you
Speaker 1: guys are rocking the virgin shirts to really like, you know,
Speaker 1: make it known that like this is the thing that
Speaker 1: that a lot of people go through and it's just
Speaker 1: not you, Tommy, It's it's tons of people. And so
Speaker 1: I think it's great what you're doing. So, Tommy, how
Speaker 1: is this experience? Uh, you know, you say that you
Speaker 1: learned a lot about not only you know, relationships, but
Speaker 1: about yourself. So I guess what is like one of
Speaker 1: the things that you're gonna take with you from going
Speaker 1: on this experience and having them challenge you in different ways. Wow,
Speaker 1: you guys are coming up with the hard hitting questions. Well,
Speaker 1: I appreciate the beasts in the game. That's the job.
Speaker 1: This is not our first rodeo, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well I would like to take from this
Speaker 1: just um a couple of quick things is uh, basically
Speaker 1: I would like to take of course, like I'm more
Speaker 1: confident now, like when approaching uh woman, I'm more confident
Speaker 1: in myself, uh, in my own uh, in my own skin,
Speaker 1: and I'm not afraid to you know, talk with them
Speaker 1: to you know, ask them if you know they want
Speaker 1: to go off for coffee, they want to go out
Speaker 1: for a movie. Not fear of rejection either. Like man,
Speaker 1: before I met them, guys, I always like I would
Speaker 1: always be sensitive like, oh, why uh why isn't this
Speaker 1: uh you know this so lady talking to me, like
Speaker 1: why did she just walk away with a snarky face
Speaker 1: on her right? And I get sensitive about that? Now
Speaker 1: don't care? Move on? To the next. If if someone
Speaker 1: else doesn't like you or whatever, like, who cares? So
Speaker 1: I take that one with me more confident in myself
Speaker 1: approaching woman. Uh. Secondly is basically, um, you know they'll
Speaker 1: like on them knows this. Basically I learned more about
Speaker 1: know this pertains to the topic, but learn more about
Speaker 1: how important family is, how family it's definitely important. While
Speaker 1: I was in this journey with them and the crew
Speaker 1: and the cast, I basically, you know, he started to
Speaker 1: h M, your family realized how important family is. You
Speaker 1: only have one mom, you have only have one dad,
Speaker 1: You only have one sibling in the world that will
Speaker 1: back you up. So I mean it's weird in no way, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my quest was to get laid, But what I found
Speaker 1: out most is that after this, family is so important.
Speaker 1: So I mean the relationship. When I came back, I
Speaker 1: just got stronger with my parents and my brother, especially
Speaker 1: my dad. I wasn't so great when I was in
Speaker 1: high school. I played a role too. I wasn't the
Speaker 1: best high school son in the world. But um, when
Speaker 1: I came back, I was just changed. Man. Dad actually
Speaker 1: thought I was a mutant that got abducted by an
Speaker 1: alien and sent him back and sent me back here
Speaker 1: because I was just so nice to him when I
Speaker 1: came back from the dad, Thanks, everyone's a mutant, my
Speaker 1: mutant son. Oh you big mutant boy. Uh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: both mutants, that's for sure. And his dad's defense. Then
Speaker 1: I could see six nine guy walking in and he
Speaker 1: would I could see why he would say that. But
Speaker 1: and then I got a question for you. Do you
Speaker 1: have any experience with this type of like filming or
Speaker 1: creating films or anything like that before this? Yeah? Uh well,
Speaker 1: I you know, my biggest influences there seth Rogan, Key
Speaker 1: and Peel, Jim Carey, Tom Greene. Um. So I yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I was there. I was there to become
Speaker 1: a filmmaker. Um. I was also stand up comedian at
Speaker 1: the time for about three and a half years. I
Speaker 1: was kind of transitioning out of my sports life. So
Speaker 1: I I did have experience doing short films here and there. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, this film took years and years. Most most
Speaker 1: filmmakers start out by doing like, I don't know, five
Speaker 1: to ten shorts before their feature film. I took five
Speaker 1: to ten years making one epic documentary about my best friend.
Speaker 1: And you can see it when you watched it. But
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna touch on what you guys were talking
Speaker 1: about with like relatability to men and like healthy masculinity,
Speaker 1: UM and sexuality for men, because this, you know, this
Speaker 1: started like and like I said, it started out as
Speaker 1: a kind of like a funny thing because I was
Speaker 1: trying to trying to be a filmmaker, but I was
Speaker 1: also trying to help my friend. Um. But through that
Speaker 1: process it became something much bigger and much deeper, and
Speaker 1: you know, I had to do my research. And doing
Speaker 1: my research, I found out a lot of crazy information,
Speaker 1: really important information that there are hundreds of millions of
Speaker 1: adult virgins in the world. Um, they're the largest silence
Speaker 1: demographic in the world. They spent across geography or race, religion, creed, um,
Speaker 1: and basically they're everywhere, and they're hundreds of different sub
Speaker 1: communities within the adult virginity. You have the adult virgin community, sorry,
Speaker 1: and basically it spans from people who you know, I
Speaker 1: grew up in religious or strict conservative households and didn't
Speaker 1: develop the adult skills. Usually the virginity is not the
Speaker 1: main aspect of it. It's it's just an outcome of
Speaker 1: something bigger. Um. Some people grew up in secular homes
Speaker 1: that are traumatic, and you know, they weren't able to
Speaker 1: develop as adults. Other people, basically they choose to be virgins,
Speaker 1: whether they're secular or religious, they just choose to be
Speaker 1: virgins for the whatever their reason is. Usually they want
Speaker 1: to find the right person. And uh, it's it's about
Speaker 1: one and twenty people in North America, it's about one
Speaker 1: in ten in Asia, and it's rapidly growing because you know,
Speaker 1: we have our phones and apps and technology that's supposed
Speaker 1: to bring us together, but ironically it's isolating us in
Speaker 1: terms of divel other being, face to face personal skills. Um.
Speaker 1: So this is like a topic that we want to
Speaker 1: be the trailblazers of and kind of bring this conversation
Speaker 1: to light because there's so many guys and women, Like
Speaker 1: you said your wife was a virgin at twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I have like a few bombshell female friends who are
Speaker 1: also twenty seven and their virgins, and they're like, this
Speaker 1: movie is for me. These are my people, and like
Speaker 1: it's just like you wouldn't expect it, but like adult
Speaker 1: virgins are everywhere, and you know they they've been kind
Speaker 1: of uh, voiceless because obviously there's a degree of shame
Speaker 1: to adult adult virginity. Basically, like you don't go to
Speaker 1: a bar and say, by the way, I'm a thirty
Speaker 1: seven year old virgin or I'm a fifty two year
Speaker 1: old virgin. If you're even going to the bar, you
Speaker 1: keep that to yourself because society still has kind of
Speaker 1: like that high school mentality like yo, bro, this guy
Speaker 1: is still a virgin. Bro, come on, bro, come out
Speaker 1: with me. I'll get to lef or like girls are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she just needs to get that over with.
Speaker 1: Like there's still meant that mentality and nobody even knows
Speaker 1: they exist. So I'm like, it's what it's a It's like,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about this, and we we chose
Speaker 1: to talk about it through Tommy story. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: not a social commentary film by any means, but we
Speaker 1: we choose to bring that social commentary through the film
Speaker 1: and through Tommy's story and bring light kind of like
Speaker 1: a voice to the voiceless and normalize and destigmatize this conversation.
Speaker 1: And we shouldn't be judging people, you know, by their
Speaker 1: body count or like their political or sexual orientations. We
Speaker 1: should be judging each other based on our characters and
Speaker 1: our hearts, and that's kind of like what we stand for.
Speaker 1: I'm on the website right now and I see this
Speaker 1: quote here where it says Tom is a real deal
Speaker 1: version of many things now just the act of sex.
Speaker 1: And I think that's really interesting too, because and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys could expand on a little bit more,
Speaker 1: but it seems like the film outlines many other things
Speaker 1: other than just the quest for like you said, uh,
Speaker 1: body count, I guess right. So so Tom, how has
Speaker 1: that been for you? Do you still live at home? Um?
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself being more independent nowadays post post
Speaker 1: documentary and everything? Uh? Yeah, absolutely, Well, first off, you
Speaker 1: guys gotta watch the movie. Yeah, but uh but what
Speaker 1: I can't answer is, uh yeah, more more and definitely
Speaker 1: more independent on myself. Uh And as I stayed before,
Speaker 1: the confidence level uh within myself has skyrocket. It's since
Speaker 1: uh finishing up the journey with them and all my
Speaker 1: friends and the crew and the cast. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just uh yeah, once again, like you know, like them
Speaker 1: has been saying basically, he saw the change in me
Speaker 1: from the beginning to the end. Since we started this journey,
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, confidence is there, and I just
Speaker 1: I really want people to take from this movie as well.
Speaker 1: I'm sure them is too. Um, if he agrees with me,
Speaker 1: is that you know, yeah, oh wow, he's on the
Speaker 1: quest to get laid. But basically from this movie, like
Speaker 1: like we were talking about, like how you know, people
Speaker 1: will perceive the word virgin a different, more positive light
Speaker 1: after watching this movie. And also from this movie, it's
Speaker 1: not just about my quest to get late. It's about
Speaker 1: a journey that a group of friends take together and
Speaker 1: how they grow together on the screens. Just a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing to see. So that's why absolutely, um, both of
Speaker 1: you guys and everyone l a and just you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully down the road the world will will watch it.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a beautiful thing. It's just how it's
Speaker 1: the one and present. It's just amazing. You get to
Speaker 1: see him do laundry for the first time, and it's beautiful,
Speaker 1: including cooking and humbles you. By the way, I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask, and based off of those two stories and
Speaker 1: the screen grab I see from the film, there's gotta
Speaker 1: be a lot of comedic moments in it, right, Like
Speaker 1: I would say that's gotta be the underlying tone more
Speaker 1: or less. Oh yeah, if I could go quick now, man,
Speaker 1: we had just at this chemistry like I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know the legendary long before
Speaker 1: our time, Laurel and Hardy like they were like a
Speaker 1: legendary comedic due never knows who they are. I mean
Speaker 1: we had that. We always have that presence out like
Speaker 1: but we're not filming where we're best friends, so we
Speaker 1: always have that comedic. I think you can ask our
Speaker 1: friends that hang out with us. But like all this, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was, I was like, wow, we have this chemistry that.
Speaker 1: I was really shocked. It was funny. It was funny comedy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was funny for us at
Speaker 1: that time because you know, me and then being brothers
Speaker 1: we get into dust ups, but I mean watching it,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, like, man, we have that Laurel Hardy,
Speaker 1: uh you know, comedic duol or whatever other look like
Speaker 1: Jackie and Chris Tucker community duel there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: was surprising to see, uh the magic there. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I was gonna ask how because I
Speaker 1: was very curious Tommy, A lot of people I feel
Speaker 1: like are can relate to you about how they feel
Speaker 1: insecure talking to people at bars, or trying to hit
Speaker 1: on women um or women hit on men, or men
Speaker 1: hit on men, so on and so forth, like just
Speaker 1: hitting on people that you're attracted to. And I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask exactly how you got to the point you're
Speaker 1: at now, which is more secure in yourself, more confident.
Speaker 1: But instead of asking you that and having answer it,
Speaker 1: I'd rather just tell everybody who's listening to this podcast
Speaker 1: to go watch My Friend Tommy. Now. You guys just
Speaker 1: premiered at the Dances with Films Festival. I believe it
Speaker 1: was so congratulations first and foremost on that. So how
Speaker 1: are people going to be able to watch this documentary?
Speaker 1: So right now we're in the festival circuit before we
Speaker 1: go to distribution, so you'll see it somewhere probably during
Speaker 1: the fall on a on a streamer or a different
Speaker 1: distribution platform. Definitely keep tabs with us on our Instagram.
Speaker 1: That that's probably our biggest kind of hub. Our Instagram
Speaker 1: is m f T movie, like My Friend Tommy movie,
Speaker 1: so m FT movie, and we also a Facebook page.
Speaker 1: But to touch on Dean quickly, like yeah, this movie
Speaker 1: is absolutely hilarious. It's like absurd. Um. I put all
Speaker 1: my influences in it. So if you like Seth Rogan,
Speaker 1: if you like Kem Peel and Jim Carey and even
Speaker 1: Tom Green, I mean, with an original hip hop soundtrack
Speaker 1: with some of the biggest up and coming artists from
Speaker 1: North America, Asia and Europe, you'll definitely enjoy it. So
Speaker 1: it's it's got an absurd touch, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's heartwarming because we're actual best friends and you kind
Speaker 1: of forget that it's real because it feels like you're
Speaker 1: watching kind of like a Blockbuster comedy and then it
Speaker 1: slaps you in the face and it's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is real. So it's kind of like it's a little
Speaker 1: bit meta, and uh yeah, it's it's funny, it's heartwarming,
Speaker 1: and you're watching someone's life change in real time, which
Speaker 1: is exciting and uh introspective, definitely relatable. Sweet, but we're
Speaker 1: excited to see. Yeah, we'll have to follow along on
Speaker 1: the Instagram and keep track of it until we are
Speaker 1: able to watch it for ourselves. But you guys, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Thanks
Speaker 1: for giving some insight. Uh you both seem like great guys.
Speaker 1: And and Tom, I'm excited to watch man. I want
Speaker 1: to see the progression and the growth and everything. So
Speaker 1: we'll keep we'll keep an eye up for it. Thank you,
Speaker 1: so thank you, James. Yeah, oh my god, of course.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks guys. I'll talk to you later. Thank you, guys.
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