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Speaker 1: Hello, listeners, It's me Jefferson White, Jimmy Hrdstrom on Yellowstone.

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Speaker 1: While we are waiting with baited breath for Yellowstone to return,

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Speaker 1: we want to share some special behind the scenes access

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Speaker 1: to the show with you. Someone you don't see on screen,

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Speaker 1: but who is crucial to the look of everything Yellowstone

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Speaker 1: is our incredible costume designer Janetta Boone. Janetta's vision has

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Speaker 1: an impact well beyond the screen. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: any of us anticipated that the Yellowstone style would become

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Speaker 1: a worldwide fashion trend. So get ready for an incredible

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Speaker 1: conversation about why the characters look exactly the way they do.

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Speaker 1: If you're anything like me, you've been googling how to

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Speaker 1: get various Western style jackets for five seasons. Now it

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Speaker 1: turns out there's a lot of significance to each piece

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Speaker 1: of clothing. They're all chosen for a very specific reason,

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Speaker 1: and they're all a very important part of the creative process.

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Speaker 1: You're going to hear more about that right after this break. So,

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Speaker 1: as promised, we are going to share a fascinating chat

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Speaker 1: with Yellowstone costume designer Janetta Boone. She recently sat down

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Speaker 1: with Today's show Lifestyle contributor Jill Martin.

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, I'm so excited to bring you this special

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Speaker 2: conversation with Janetta Boon, the costume designer on Yellowstone. But

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Speaker 2: before we go there, I want to share some exciting

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Speaker 2: news about a new initiative I've had the pleasure of

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Speaker 2: working alongside Janetta on called Shop the Scenes. Shop the

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Speaker 2: Scenes is the official way to shop for authentic items

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Speaker 2: from across your favorite TV shows, movies, and more. You

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Speaker 2: can find everything ranging from Beth Sutton's dresses, codes accessories,

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Speaker 2: to Rip's wedding ring and yes, even John Dutton's signature

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Speaker 2: cowboy hat. So I hope you'll visit schoptscenes dot com.

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Speaker 2: See it, love it, by it. And now as onto

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Speaker 2: my fabulous conversation with Janetta.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you so much, Jill. What in honor?

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Speaker 2: So, Janetta, one thing that's been really interesting to watch,

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Speaker 2: and you know you talked about it. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: the actress actors will say, I'm feeling genes or I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling a dress. So how does the process work? Like

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Speaker 2: where does it start with the script? Like walk me

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Speaker 3: So what generally happens is I'll start reading the scripts,

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Speaker 3: so we're envisioning what could possibly be happening, which is

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Speaker 3: really funny. Right, So we'll get the script, I'll read

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Speaker 2: Oh he does, I didn't realize that. So he'll say,

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Speaker 3: So it just depends. It's not always the case, and

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Speaker 2: and then you wanted something white? Was that where that

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating. So and I know, you know, one of

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Speaker 3: Oh, I knew it immediately when she brought the cloak out,

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Speaker 3: They have no idea why they love it so much

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Speaker 2: Do you just love your job.

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Speaker 3: I love my job. I do. I'm so passionate about

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Speaker 2: Janetta, thank you for your talent and your passion and

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Jill, thank you so much for having.

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