Speaker 1: Hell, I Suck at Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast What is Up, Sucky Daters.
Speaker 1: We're back with an all new episode of your favorite podcast.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's Dean and Jared. We're here for help.
Speaker 1: I Suck at Dating and boy oh boy. Just like
Speaker 1: every week, we got a great episode in the store
Speaker 1: for you. Don't with Jared, Oh yes we do. So
Speaker 1: we have a couple of wonderful guests from the brand
Speaker 1: new show on t LC. I Love a Mama's Boy.
Speaker 1: It's Stephanie, Mike and Mom Liz. Now that premiere is Sunday, October,
Speaker 1: but we have them on the podcast this week. So
Speaker 1: my question becomes, Dean, do you think I'm a mama's boy? You?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, You're a mama's boy and a daddy's boy.
Speaker 1: This boy sounds weird. You're just a boy that loves
Speaker 1: his parents. Uh. Yeah, I guess I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm a MoMA's boy. I don't think Ashley would describe
Speaker 1: me as a MoMA's boy. Ashley is way more of
Speaker 1: like a mama's girl than I am a mama's boy.
Speaker 1: Actually does love her mother. Second best friend besides her sister.
Speaker 1: I would say, right, oh, absolutely, she talks to her parents.
Speaker 1: I'm not joking at least three times a day on
Speaker 1: the phone. At least, it's insane, it's fantastic, Like I
Speaker 1: actually envy it because I want to be closer with
Speaker 1: my parents. I talked to my parents all the time,
Speaker 1: but I talked to them probably two or three times
Speaker 1: a week. She talked to me three times on the
Speaker 1: phone a day FaceTime. I mean, it's it's great, it's
Speaker 1: it's very sweet, maybe sometimes annoying. I've got a question
Speaker 1: as that, has that ever gotten in the way of
Speaker 1: your relationship? No, honestly. So when I first met Ashley's parents,
Speaker 1: it was after our first season of Paradise Together, where
Speaker 1: Ashley was very into me, and I wasn't as into
Speaker 1: Ashley at the time, at least romantically. I loved as
Speaker 1: a human being. So I was super nervous that her
Speaker 1: dad was just gonna freaking hate me and her mom
Speaker 1: think I'm the biggest jerk in the world. But they
Speaker 1: were so welcoming, they were so sweet. I felt at home. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it it was really nice. And then it makes
Speaker 1: it even nicer now because looking back, those were my
Speaker 1: in laws the first time I met them. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know what would have happened if I didn't get
Speaker 1: along with Ashley's parents, and I don't know what would
Speaker 1: happen if Ashley, if my parents didn't like Ashley. Do
Speaker 1: you think that Ashley's parents adoring you as much as
Speaker 1: they did right after bat played into her obsession for you?
Speaker 1: Because you don't think it did, No, because I don't
Speaker 1: her parents didn't meet me before we film Paradise. No,
Speaker 1: but she I mean, I don't want to like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for anyone or put words anyone's mouth,
Speaker 1: but she definitely had I'm not gonna say the word
Speaker 1: obsessed because that's maybe a little strong. She had very
Speaker 1: strong feelings for you for for three years, right after Paradise,
Speaker 1: before the next Paradise, even after that Paradise, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Do you think that her feelings were escalated because of
Speaker 1: how much her parents are door with you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I don't know, but I would say that they
Speaker 1: had to have played it into it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess maybe played a little bit into it,
Speaker 1: like the fact that I get so you know, I
Speaker 1: get along with her dad really well, you know what,
Speaker 1: really what it really came down to, I fit so
Speaker 1: well into her family. That's I just you know how
Speaker 1: you just meet people and you vibe with them and
Speaker 1: you feel like you fit in. That's exactly how I
Speaker 1: felt with her entire family, her parents or sister being
Speaker 1: at our house, them being East Coasters, it just felt right.
Speaker 1: And so I think that maybe played a little bit
Speaker 1: of a factor into why Ashley was so confused why
Speaker 1: we weren't together, because everything just fit, including the family dynamic.
Speaker 1: My question to you, Dean, have you ever been disliked
Speaker 1: by someone else's parents. I don't want to sound too
Speaker 1: full of myself here, but I'm pretty good when it
Speaker 1: comes to parents. I think you are very good. You're
Speaker 1: just so likable. And but my question is not that
Speaker 1: they did like you in person, because everybody loves you
Speaker 1: once when I meet you, but with like was there
Speaker 1: like either Kalin's or even an ex's parents not like
Speaker 1: you before they met you. I would say it's never
Speaker 1: happened until Paradise the first time. For me. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine why. I can't imagine why parents wouldn't want them
Speaker 1: dating their their daughter dating Dean from Bachelor in Paradise
Speaker 1: At that time, I was I was America's f boy
Speaker 1: for a while, and I wouldn't say it ever lets
Speaker 1: anyone disliking me, parents wise, but it definitely created, uh
Speaker 1: an extra obstacle for me to hurdle. I guess you
Speaker 1: could say, I'm trying to think of specifics. It was
Speaker 1: like it was like whenever I met someone new, whether
Speaker 1: I was dating, let's say, let's say I was like
Speaker 1: dating Leslie or Christine or whoever I was dating post
Speaker 1: first Bachelor in Paradise, right, I was was always an
Speaker 1: upholl battle. I was always starting from like from a
Speaker 1: negative two position and having to get back to zero
Speaker 1: was like a challenge. Not a challenge, but like it
Speaker 1: took a challenge tone because people had an idea of
Speaker 1: who you were and what you were all about. And
Speaker 1: obviously you're not that guy. You just make certain mistakes.
Speaker 1: That does suck, But uh, you know what's funny. Parents
Speaker 1: do love you to the point where after I started
Speaker 1: dating Ashley, we were boyfriend girlfriend maybe fiance's at this time. Audrey,
Speaker 1: Ashley's mom got you a gift. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you ever got it. I don't remember it might have
Speaker 1: been like suspenders or something, but she saw them thought
Speaker 1: of you bought them for you? And I was like, Audrey,
Speaker 1: you're buying gifts for Dean. I'm your future son in law.
Speaker 1: This is bullshit. That's almost parents love. That just speaks
Speaker 1: to how great Audrey is. I would say, but no,
Speaker 1: Ashley's mother and I we've met a couple of times
Speaker 1: and she's fantastic. Uh I don't know. Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 1: I've got nothing bad to say about her. So well,
Speaker 1: you're just great with parents, man. Uh, thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's maybe maybe because I don't have parents in
Speaker 1: my own, so I I overextend myself to h to
Speaker 1: make other parents like me. I'm like a child of
Speaker 1: all my friends parents, you know what I mean? Can
Speaker 1: I ask one question before we bring in the guests?
Speaker 1: And this is on a little bit more of an
Speaker 1: emotional level, so please if you don't feel comfortable answering it,
Speaker 1: let me know. But do you get like, does that
Speaker 1: bother you at all? The fact that like you can't um,
Speaker 1: you know, get your parents, you know. Signature of approval.
Speaker 1: Uh well, firstly, Jared, you should know this by now.
Speaker 1: That nothing makes me uncomfortable. Uh second, secondly, does it
Speaker 1: bother me that I can't get there? Like blessing or
Speaker 1: make you make you sad? You know? I would say,
Speaker 1: of all the things that would make me sad about
Speaker 1: not having parents, that's like the least thing that would
Speaker 1: make me sad. But I will say there are things
Speaker 1: that like not having parents kind of makes things more
Speaker 1: convenient and easier. Whereas like let's say, let's say, you know,
Speaker 1: hypothetical world, your parents hate like despised Ashley, and because
Speaker 1: of that, like you couldn't carry on a relationship with
Speaker 1: actually because obviously you care about your parents opinion and
Speaker 1: you want to make them happy as well as make
Speaker 1: yourself happy, So there would be like some tension in
Speaker 1: the relationships somehow. Not having parents for me like I
Speaker 1: never have to worry about my parents blessing. Like let's
Speaker 1: say I introduced my in another hypothetical world my parents
Speaker 1: to Kalin and they're like, oh, Kalin sucks, we hate her,
Speaker 1: we don't want you to Dator, but I really liked her,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I wanted Dat, or I
Speaker 1: would have to choose between Dat and Kalin and making
Speaker 1: my parents happy so there's like, you know, there's pros
Speaker 1: and cons, but I like, I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about getting a blessing from my parents to date anyone.
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about, like, uh, certain things
Speaker 1: like that. I guess I was gonna say a holidays,
Speaker 1: you know, like there's less pressure for that kind of stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: So that's like the Barbs. It's like the Barb scenario
Speaker 1: from Peter season, or at least the way it looked
Speaker 1: like to play it out, where Peter had to choose
Speaker 1: between Maddie and Barb. Yeah, exactly. I guess that's a
Speaker 1: different way of looking at it, but a interesting way
Speaker 1: new to it. I mean, you always you always kind
Speaker 1: of gotta find the silver lining, you know, And I
Speaker 1: mean I would say overall, there's probably more negatives than
Speaker 1: there are positives. But I think if you just look
Speaker 1: for the positives, it's Kalen gets the seal of approval
Speaker 1: from Ashley and me, and that's all that matters. That's
Speaker 1: all I care about too. It's just you guys approving,
Speaker 1: you know. Duh. So we do have our guests that
Speaker 1: are waiting on the line, but before we talk to
Speaker 1: Mama's boys, let's take a quick break. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: help suck at dating. We have some very special guests
Speaker 1: who are joining us right now via zoom obviously COVID
Speaker 1: from the brand new show I Love a Mama's Boy,
Speaker 1: which premieres Sunday, October at ten pm on TLC. We
Speaker 1: have Stephanie, Mike, and of course Mike's mom, Liz. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Guys. So because we
Speaker 1: work at my Heart, we get special treatment sometimes. And
Speaker 1: I've actually seen the first episode. Have you guys watched
Speaker 1: anything yet? She hasn't. My mom and I have gotten
Speaker 1: to see some clips from some of the other family's
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a little bit of a preview,
Speaker 1: Not as much as we'd like to see, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we got we got a little insight. Have you guys
Speaker 1: seen anything of yourself yet? They won't show us, They
Speaker 1: won't let us see our own foot and we've been asking.
Speaker 1: I feel very special right now because I've seen tell
Speaker 1: us everything. I'm I mean, Mike, I mean, you come
Speaker 1: off as a Mama's boy. I expected that, needless to say,
Speaker 1: but it's well, I well, I can't say anything because
Speaker 1: I don't want to. One I don't know if legally
Speaker 1: I can into I'm for you guys, but I guess.
Speaker 1: Here's here's my question. My first question Mike and Stephanie. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to ask Stephanie's first how much of a
Speaker 1: mama's boy is Mike? Mike is a major mama's boy.
Speaker 1: I'm the one that sent him into the show the
Speaker 1: second I all that I literally didn't even read passed
Speaker 1: do you know a Mom's Boy, and sent it right
Speaker 1: over to him. I mean, these two are on the
Speaker 1: phone all day every day, and then the second we
Speaker 1: leave her house, they're on the phone the whole part
Speaker 1: right home. So she's laughing because she knows that's true.
Speaker 1: It's anyway it is, Liz, how many times a day
Speaker 1: do you talk to Mike? Um, let me say countless
Speaker 1: once because the conversation just never ends. And my god,
Speaker 1: you know what, because I always have everything to tell him.
Speaker 1: I have so much to tell him. He's like my
Speaker 1: best friend too, you know. So yeah, it really does well, Liz.
Speaker 1: In the episode, uh, you know, we talk about you know,
Speaker 1: what happened with Mike's dad? Uh? And my um, I
Speaker 1: know it's a long time ago, but of course I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to hear that. Um, but do you think that
Speaker 1: because you were a single parent, like you became closer
Speaker 1: to Mike because of that? Yes? I Well we've always
Speaker 1: been close. I mean since birth. I mean he was born,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, that's your child and they're
Speaker 1: putting too your arms and that's like your life, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's already such a strong bond to begin with. Um,
Speaker 1: and then after his father passed away, I felt almost
Speaker 1: like I had to take on two roles and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, maybe that it became stronger because of that.
Speaker 1: It was always strong, but became even stronger. So I
Speaker 1: was always like the mama bear, and now I was
Speaker 1: like double I was my Yeah, Stephanie, I got a
Speaker 1: question for you. What is it like dating a mama's boy?
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot, it's a lot to handle.
Speaker 1: At first, when I first started dating Mike, I didn't
Speaker 1: really realize the magnitude of how much of my mom
Speaker 1: was boy he was. We moved in with each other
Speaker 1: about a year ago, and that's when it really hit
Speaker 1: because it was like I'd come home from work and
Speaker 1: I would be excited to talk to Mike and tell
Speaker 1: him about my work day and just like on find
Speaker 1: with him and like he's unwinding with his mom on
Speaker 1: the phone, and it's like I couldn't even get a
Speaker 1: word in and that's something. It's like, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: there might be some issues here trying to figure out
Speaker 1: who the number one woman in his life. You know,
Speaker 1: me and Liz are both competitive people, so it kind
Speaker 1: of don my energy. Like here, the thing is okay
Speaker 1: that we have to talk about this stuff and I
Speaker 1: live together, right, So Steph says she wants to come
Speaker 1: home from work and you know, try to unwind. Like
Speaker 1: we also met at work, So first thing in the
Speaker 1: morning she gets to talk and just avent as much
Speaker 1: as she wants. And then throughout the course of the day.
Speaker 1: Guess what, when we're working, I see her all day
Speaker 1: doing that too. So step also is somebody who needs
Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the attention. So I feel like
Speaker 1: that kind of gets taken out a conflict where at work?
Speaker 1: Where at work? And then when I'm done with work,
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, so let me let's talk about life.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about you know, not work. Can you say
Speaker 1: which talk show you guys work on? Because he didn't.
Speaker 1: We are talk show. Didn't want us to say it
Speaker 1: on the show, so it's cut out. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's it's not on this it's not on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't want us our show. They wanted to show
Speaker 1: us on the show. Our show, didn't want us to
Speaker 1: be it's a very popular daytime talk show television. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't say it now, right because now, like my
Speaker 1: mind is, I'm like, I'm all over the place, all right, neverbody,
Speaker 1: we don't even risk don't even risk it. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: worked for the more show. Okay, okay, very well, that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine to say it was more for the purpose
Speaker 1: of the show. But okay, well that's you go on
Speaker 1: our Instagram, bios or whatever. You can see that social media.
Speaker 1: That's going to get I have a million questions about that,
Speaker 1: but I will will wait for another podcast for that. Um,
Speaker 1: I want to know how Mike and stuff, how far
Speaker 1: do you live from Liz. Let's than an hour. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty long way to be like a mama's boy.
Speaker 1: It's a little too far from my taste. Okay, can
Speaker 1: I give you guys an example? But our October has
Speaker 1: looked like so far so in the beginning of the month,
Speaker 1: we hung out with Liz, and then a week later
Speaker 1: we went to a pumpkin patch and we went to
Speaker 1: a brewery with Liz, and then this weekend we were
Speaker 1: actually invited to a dinner to go back up with
Speaker 1: Liz and the rest of the family. So I'm not
Speaker 1: sure we're gonna make it to the dinner. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think we're making it to the dinner. But the
Speaker 1: endless plans and it's always endless fun to be happy.
Speaker 1: That's not so bad. I I imagine like a mom's boy,
Speaker 1: like by big fat Greek wedding where they like, you
Speaker 1: literally live across the street from your parents. See, that's
Speaker 1: the thing though, It's like, you know, I have a
Speaker 1: mom's boy in the sense that we have a super
Speaker 1: close relationship. We call each other and talk out a
Speaker 1: lot of big life decision into here if I need advice,
Speaker 1: But you know, in terms of everything else, I feel
Speaker 1: like that was one thing I wanted to make clear
Speaker 1: on the show was I do have a sense of
Speaker 1: independence too, And I guess the viewers will see kind
Speaker 1: of and leave it up to their discretion of how
Speaker 1: much they agree with me. But also Liz has made
Speaker 1: joking comment about living with us, cooking for us, so
Speaker 1: it's definitely been mentioned. She's like, hey, if we get
Speaker 1: another show, maybe I can come up with you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: are in law apartments? Someday? There you go. I've got
Speaker 1: a question. So, Stephanie and Liz, have you guys ever
Speaker 1: had like an argument or anything fighting over Mike just
Speaker 1: like for his attention? Well, it's not necessarily. I feel
Speaker 1: like the arguments are more passive aggressive. The one thing
Speaker 1: that I think you'll see in the show is about
Speaker 1: um skiing. I think is something that we argue about.
Speaker 1: I love skiing and Liz hates it and things, and
Speaker 1: I've really corrupted Mike's mind. It's becoming like a big
Speaker 1: dangerous here, not dangerous, but black diamond letter, black diamond
Speaker 1: here because of me, And that has been are like
Speaker 1: one of hard clashing points. So, but it's usually not
Speaker 1: like a you know, a blowout argument. It's more like
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Dean? I'm sure Liz would
Speaker 1: love to hear how you broke your leg ski Don't
Speaker 1: I know the story, Dean? Please don't tell I'm begging you. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what's funny? Did you say that as Steff
Speaker 1: even said, Oh jeez, I feel like this might get
Speaker 1: brought up. I don't even want to bring literally talked
Speaker 1: about this the day something God forbid happen, and sad
Speaker 1: what it never does. I am moving in to take
Speaker 1: care of her. So Stephanie remember that, Mike, just be
Speaker 1: careful if you go to Switzerland, just be careful out there.
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. I'll be very careful to
Speaker 1: do it. I feel like that's still years out of
Speaker 1: my level of expertise to anyway. Yeah, same same out
Speaker 1: of mind apparently too, So I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm the same level on that one. Yeah, so Mike,
Speaker 1: when because you know your quote unquote this mama's boy.
Speaker 1: I feel like bad saying that, but you know, part
Speaker 1: of the show. Uh So, you know, did you always
Speaker 1: know that your mom was always gonna have to give
Speaker 1: a seal of approval before you we're gonna marry someone. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did. And you know, honestly, there's been relationships in
Speaker 1: my past where I thought that there was someone that
Speaker 1: maybe could be the one, or you know, maybe I
Speaker 1: felt a little bit more serious. You know how young
Speaker 1: love is sometimes, and like there were times where my
Speaker 1: mom didn't always approve And then now looking back, once
Speaker 1: I met Steph, I was like, Okay, my mom was
Speaker 1: actually right back then about those other people in the
Speaker 1: exerciety dated in the past. But in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind, like I always knew, like first or second date,
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, his mom gonna like her because if not, Like,
Speaker 1: why am I wasted my time? Liz, did you have
Speaker 1: any uh, like, do you remember any instances instances where
Speaker 1: you were like Mike, no, oh yeah, every single girlfriend
Speaker 1: literally like my teenage dude, I remember when I was
Speaker 1: fifteen years old, Like it was like my first time
Speaker 1: we went over to a fair and like I remember
Speaker 1: that I had this she's literally rolling her eyes, I
Speaker 1: like walking around with like like I literally introduced her
Speaker 1: to this one girl that she got a bad impression
Speaker 1: up and my mom just gave her the nastiest look
Speaker 1: and like completely ruined my weekend. And like that was
Speaker 1: the first time I ever really introduced her to a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and I knew, like, damn, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough look. It took me to I was twenty six
Speaker 1: and eleven years so I find when she could be
Speaker 1: cord with with. I mean, honestly, it's nice you've got this,
Speaker 1: You've got your mother serving as like a filter to
Speaker 1: kind of keep out the ones that maybe you aren't
Speaker 1: worth your time. And obviously it worked out because you've
Speaker 1: now you've got Stephanie, right, all those yeah, those losers? Uh?
Speaker 1: But Mike, well, so knowing that your mom needed there
Speaker 1: was so much pressure with your with your mom making
Speaker 1: sure that you had the right girl, you know, with Stephanie.
Speaker 1: Did you really hold off on introducing Stephanie to your
Speaker 1: mom because you knew that there was gonna be like
Speaker 1: this wrath coming her way? You know, I'd be lying
Speaker 1: if I said that it wasn't on the back of
Speaker 1: my mind. I did wait a little bit. Um. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, though, Steph and I were friends
Speaker 1: for like a long time before we ever even started
Speaker 1: dating or had like a romantic relationship, So my mom
Speaker 1: had already been familiar with Steph. And I actually think
Speaker 1: you guys had already maybe even net in passing before
Speaker 1: we started dating. Yes, we did meet in passing. That's different, right,
Speaker 1: And wait, how did you guys meet? Oh? Because you
Speaker 1: worked together? Yeah, so we workedgether And then there was
Speaker 1: one time where I was out with some friends and
Speaker 1: he had taken his mom out to like the same
Speaker 1: bar restaurant that I was out at, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's Mike and his mom my mom on on the
Speaker 1: date like Friday night. Let's go say hi. And then
Speaker 1: me and my girlfriend went said hi to him and
Speaker 1: his mom. That is awesome. See how fun I was
Speaker 1: back in my single days. I was dating my mom
Speaker 1: on Friday nights and then I ended up seeing stuff
Speaker 1: out and I was like, Yep, that's my guy right there.
Speaker 1: We did have fun. We have fun every time we
Speaker 1: go out. So, Stephanie, have you done anything specific to
Speaker 1: try to win over Liz's good graces? Like how do you?
Speaker 1: What have you done? Absolutely so, very early on if
Speaker 1: the relationship, Liz got me a cookbook, and I have
Speaker 1: been really working hard to make sure I feed her
Speaker 1: son properly healthy meals. So I have actually changed up
Speaker 1: my whole cooking methods. So I don't know, maybe you'll
Speaker 1: see a little bit about that on the show, but
Speaker 1: I yeah, I just I'm a lot of I'm a
Speaker 1: lot more of a clean eater now because I cooked
Speaker 1: for Mike. So I want to make sure that she
Speaker 1: approves everything, because in the beginning I was kind of
Speaker 1: noticing maybe some judgment from her. I was making like
Speaker 1: mac and cheese chicken pope pie, and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, why don't you make him a salid? And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so things like that that I do.
Speaker 1: Try and press her. I'll send her, I'll text her
Speaker 1: pictures of the meals I cooked. Stuff like that. They
Speaker 1: also got a lot closer. On vacation. We went to
Speaker 1: add together. Yes, we did go on vacation, three of
Speaker 1: us together prior to COVID year ago. We went where'd
Speaker 1: you guys go? We went on a cruise, on a cruise,
Speaker 1: a roll cribby in vacation too, there we go? Mom,
Speaker 1: do we go to puert Rico? Haiti? Don't remember where else? Bermuda? Wait,
Speaker 1: So was this vacation was the purpose of this vacation
Speaker 1: for Stephanie Liz to like go grow closer or was
Speaker 1: it like a romantic getaway that Liz just crashed? No,
Speaker 1: there's a method to my madness. My mom loves cruises,
Speaker 1: Stephanie loves vacations. I connected the dots and made it happen,
Speaker 1: and then I realized that this could probably be beneficial
Speaker 1: for the future, like there was a reason for everything
Speaker 1: I did. Mike is the king of playing book side,
Speaker 1: So for me, I thought we were going on a
Speaker 1: couple's cruise, but then all of a sudden it became
Speaker 1: this whole family affair. Step thought it was a couple
Speaker 1: of cruise, My mom thought it was a family trip,
Speaker 1: and I just said, hey, guys, we're all here. It
Speaker 1: worked out. Is there anything you guys are nervous about
Speaker 1: maybe with the show airing, anything like any reservations you
Speaker 1: might have. You know, I feel like there's always a
Speaker 1: little bit of questions, especially you know when you don't
Speaker 1: get to see the content prior to it coming out.
Speaker 1: But I felt like I was myself as much as possible,
Speaker 1: and I felt like I'm gonna give the viewer true
Speaker 1: and we had fun with it. We had a good time.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I think that's
Speaker 1: all that matters. We had a good time, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we showed who we are. That's great. Well,
Speaker 1: I I haven't seen the whole season yet. I only
Speaker 1: seen the first episode, but you guys are very lovable,
Speaker 1: very sweet because it's it's you. And then there's one too.
Speaker 1: I think there's only two other mama's boys. I think yes,
Speaker 1: three yeah, four total total. Sprinkle them in differently so
Speaker 1: you never know who's gonna pop in where. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: never really do. So, Stephanie, what's the number one challenge
Speaker 1: of dating a Mama's boy? The number one challenge of
Speaker 1: dating a mama's boy is just one wondering if and
Speaker 1: when you're ever going to come first, I guess, and
Speaker 1: just you know, wanting to be know, just wanting to
Speaker 1: be the priority and wanting to be number one. Well,
Speaker 1: let me ask you, all three of you this. Do
Speaker 1: you think there's ever going to come a time where,
Speaker 1: like Mike and stuff, you're going to have to start
Speaker 1: living your own lives? Liz, don't kill me. Actually I
Speaker 1: think that, Oh, she's looking at about to say, actually what,
Speaker 1: I think there are possibilities for that, And I think
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of stuff, a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: stuff coming up in the near future everyone's gonna have
Speaker 1: to tune in for. Are you gonna propose like right
Speaker 1: now and help us like a dating because that's awesome.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on this podcast if I was this mook. Liz, Liz,
Speaker 1: what do you What do you feel about that? Because obviously, Liz,
Speaker 1: you grew up, you were dating other people, you were married,
Speaker 1: you were married twice, if I if I remember correctly, UM,
Speaker 1: and so did you have a similar experience with your
Speaker 1: parents or UM with my parents. I'm very close to
Speaker 1: my family big you know, big family are at least
Speaker 1: close together. And Michael was race like that since he
Speaker 1: was little. I'm very close to him. And UM, you know,
Speaker 1: if even if they I think they're going to plan
Speaker 1: on living their own lives, I'm still gonna be always involved.
Speaker 1: I am, I'll be you know, my mother in law
Speaker 1: grandma like and you know what I've you know what
Speaker 1: I've realized to you'd rather have this than a parent
Speaker 1: or a grandparent who doesn't want to be involved. You
Speaker 1: know that makes sense, That's what my because my my
Speaker 1: mother in law, I certainly don't want to say she's
Speaker 1: pressuring us to have kids, but she mentions it a lot.
Speaker 1: And but I I and she says this, and I
Speaker 1: say this too. I'd rather have, you know, a mother
Speaker 1: in law who who wants us to have kids and
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't really care. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: good thing. Was I think you're doing a great thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little too much, but you know, like three
Speaker 1: times when I might have to bite my tongue and
Speaker 1: not say something, and I'm working on that. So you're
Speaker 1: getting better, little hey, We're all just trying to get
Speaker 1: a little better, especially on this podcast. That's the whole
Speaker 1: point we end every podcast with. Well, make sure you
Speaker 1: tune in next week where hopefully we just suck a
Speaker 1: little bit less. You guys are doing all right since
Speaker 1: the show started. I've watched your stories and seeing how
Speaker 1: it's come about, and you guys definitely don't suck anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's been a big fan and she's made me a
Speaker 1: big fan as well, So we appreciate it. Thanks, guys,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We owe it all to the podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we we absolutely appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean both of us formed relationships after this doing
Speaker 1: this podcast. So really we just have to credit stuck
Speaker 1: Army who, which is what we call our listeners. So
Speaker 1: who are the best people of all time? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I just really want to thank you guys for coming on. Stephanie, Mike, Liz,
Speaker 1: you guys are the best. I'm super excited for you.
Speaker 1: You should be super excited. Uh, you guys have very
Speaker 1: exciting times ahead of you, So everybody who's listening out here,
Speaker 1: make sure you tune in too. I Love a MoMA's Boy,
Speaker 1: which again premieres on t l C Sunday, October at
Speaker 1: ten pm Eastern Standard time. Thank you for joining us,
Speaker 1: and then, uh, Stephanie, Mike Liz, is there any social
Speaker 1: handles where people can follow you at? Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: follow me on my Instagram It's at step Wrestler, and
Speaker 1: I also have a TikTok where you can follow me
Speaker 1: there too. It's at Steff Ross and you can follow
Speaker 1: me on all platforms at Mike Bourn M I K E,
Speaker 1: b O r M. Question of the day, Liz Liz,
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Yes? What I don't?
Speaker 1: I don't have what I don't have social media? Facebook
Speaker 1: on Facebook? Nothing really? Oh my mom is obsessed with Facebook.
Speaker 1: I wish you would get constant family arguments on that thing.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. So I don't want an arguments, so that's
Speaker 1: why I have to stay away from that. You're doing
Speaker 1: a great job. Then, Uh, Stephanie, Mike Liz, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming on. You guys are awesome. Ye,
Speaker 1: welcome back to help I suck at dating. My two
Speaker 1: favorite segments are coming up. One emails, because you guys
Speaker 1: are obviously the best thing. We love you all. But
Speaker 1: second one, we've been doing it lately. I have fun
Speaker 1: with it. I like everybody guessing. It's it's dating terms, everybody.
Speaker 1: We should have like a little sound effect for this Easton,
Speaker 1: like dating terms do doo doo do dooo do anyway?
Speaker 1: Uh So we have Eastern, we have Mark, we have Becky,
Speaker 1: we have Dean. Everybody's going to be given their guesses
Speaker 1: and we want you guys to be guessing at home
Speaker 1: as well. So the first dating term we're learning today
Speaker 1: it's called freckling. Freckling, Ladies and gentlemen, what do you
Speaker 1: think it is? Freckling? Freckling? Uh, freckling. Let's break this
Speaker 1: down with the Latin root of freck Uh. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to say. What's let's let's think about, like
Speaker 1: what fracking is? Is it really to fracking? All? This
Speaker 1: guy's been watching too many debates. Freckling, someone else go first? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go first. Um, it's a react, So freckles I
Speaker 1: believe to be a reaction to win the sun. You
Speaker 1: get too much fun to you get freckles. So I
Speaker 1: think it's a reaction to too much attention from your partner.
Speaker 1: You tend to bristle at that, and if you get
Speaker 1: too much attention from them, you start freckling and pushing
Speaker 1: them away freckling. I'm all right, I'll take a step
Speaker 1: at it. I think that freckling is actually just to
Speaker 1: play off of heckling. And uh, the reason it's called
Speaker 1: freckling is because it's it's like friendly heckling, and so
Speaker 1: that the reason people freckle is like you're dating someone,
Speaker 1: but then you start treating them like they're one of
Speaker 1: your friends, like you friendly heck all your friends all
Speaker 1: the time, like you you know, it's like crap talking
Speaker 1: on them. Um, So that's what freckling is, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is you're you're treating your romantic partner too much like
Speaker 1: a friend and they don't like it and they're being freckled. Dean,
Speaker 1: you put so much thought into it that was so great,
Speaker 1: completely wrong, but so great. And Becky, you guys got
Speaker 1: guesses at all. This one's hard. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to completely take a different turn.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say, like, freckling is like another type
Speaker 1: of freckles are like usually just like kind of like
Speaker 1: all of your face. So it's like when someone like
Speaker 1: butterfly kisses or another type or it's like they just
Speaker 1: like kiss all over your face. Okay, Betty, I thought
Speaker 1: you were going in a different direction, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to remind you that we are a PG podcast. Alright,
Speaker 1: So freckling ladies and gentlemen. Dude, Mark didn't hit it
Speaker 1: on the head, but it was very close. Freckling is
Speaker 1: when someone pops into your dating life when the weather
Speaker 1: is nice and then they vanish once it's a little chillier,
Speaker 1: just like freckles. Summer love, great summer love. Right there.
Speaker 1: I think mine was pretty close to But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we'll get that one to mar not even right
Speaker 1: at all. I pleased to find freckles, so that's all
Speaker 1: I was able to do. But you are still the
Speaker 1: only one to do it. All right, let's do Let's
Speaker 1: do gats being gats being. Oh, I know what gats
Speaker 1: being is. I'll go first because I know what it is.
Speaker 1: What is it? Well, I'm just guessing. I think gats
Speaker 1: being is, and and you see people guilty of this
Speaker 1: all the time, is they pretend to be much more
Speaker 1: rich and affluent than they really as they put on
Speaker 1: this great big show, like a Gatsby show. They uh
Speaker 1: you know, especially like on Instagram, you're like post in
Speaker 1: front of like nice cars, you wear nice clothes, and
Speaker 1: then when you go on a date, you maybe like
Speaker 1: take them on like a nice first day to a
Speaker 1: fancy restaurant. But that's not really who they actually are.
Speaker 1: So that's what gats being is, is they're pretending to
Speaker 1: be some super affluent person even though they're not, yeah,
Speaker 1: or or early on a relationship, to shout ring them
Speaker 1: with gifts whether or not they can afford them or not,
Speaker 1: to give a false impression. I yeah, I agree. See,
Speaker 1: I think it's like when you you pred I mean
Speaker 1: it's similar. My thing is similar. It's when you pretend
Speaker 1: you've read a book that you didn't actually read. Uh Like,
Speaker 1: like now I'm going to pretend to know what happens
Speaker 1: in The Great gats To it. I don't actually, so
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gat I'm pretending back A Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think just the same thing. Like they're just completely
Speaker 1: having this whole persona that's not even them, like, it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's a facade for sure. Well it definitely
Speaker 1: is meant to be like a facade. But gats being
Speaker 1: is when you post a video picture selfly to public
Speaker 1: social media, purely and solely for a love interest to
Speaker 1: see it, you are gats being them. So you just
Speaker 1: post a really nice picture of yourself and you're doing
Speaker 1: it because you want your love interest to see it.
Speaker 1: Like a thirst trap. It's exactly like a thirst trip.
Speaker 1: I was trying to very targeted, but yeah, they yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually I definitely percent did this when I was
Speaker 1: still trying to win Ashley over. I was I I
Speaker 1: posted a picture. I was definitely gats being her. I
Speaker 1: posted solely for her to see it because I was like,
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna love this and she's gonna think
Speaker 1: of me all night after seeing this. Uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the one of me. Uh it's back there. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you'll find it, but it's me like
Speaker 1: looking into the camera fiercely and I think I have
Speaker 1: like a blue button down on. But I remember I
Speaker 1: took it myself, like I built this tripod of boxes
Speaker 1: and put the camera on top and took a picture
Speaker 1: of it, and it's like, it's not even that good
Speaker 1: of a picture, But at the time I thought it
Speaker 1: was great. Last one because that's October, it's Halloween. I
Speaker 1: don't think we did this one, but we'll do like
Speaker 1: a halloween ish dating term. Exo skelet tending exo skeleton ng.
Speaker 1: Easton's got it right there. That is that is that's me.
Speaker 1: I was digging forward. I couldn't find it. I have
Speaker 1: all these screenshot and love it. That better be the background.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get no listens if that's the click pait Alright,
Speaker 1: I got it. Exo skeletoning, it's putting. It's just yours.
Speaker 1: You have a ship, you you have your walls up.
Speaker 1: You've got a shell you've built up over the earth
Speaker 1: because you've been hurt so many times, and you you
Speaker 1: have trouble letting anybody in because you're exo skeletoning. Okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. Exo skeleton NG is when you have
Speaker 1: a weird obsession with insects like ants and other bugs
Speaker 1: that also have exo skeletons, and you always bring those
Speaker 1: insects with you on the dates. And it creeps the
Speaker 1: other person out. That's exo skeleton. Is there something you
Speaker 1: want to admit to us, like a weird fetish you have?
Speaker 1: I think answer the coolest. See, I think exo skeleton.
Speaker 1: Humans do not have an exo skeleton, so if we
Speaker 1: were to use one, it would be an artificial piece
Speaker 1: of technology. So I think it's when someone uses social
Speaker 1: media or their phones or something to make themselves, to
Speaker 1: give themselves abilities they wouldn't naturally have to make themselves
Speaker 1: appear better. Huh okay, yeah, that's a great name. I
Speaker 1: don't have anything for this, like alright, exo skeleton ng
Speaker 1: is uh. It's defined as ever heard from your partners
Speaker 1: X via Instagram or Twitter. You are not the only one.
Speaker 1: More than a fifth of us have been through this.
Speaker 1: The term has been named exo skeleton y, perhaps referring
Speaker 1: to finding one of your dates skeletons popping out of
Speaker 1: the social media closet. So it's when an ex of
Speaker 1: the person you're dating reaches out to you directly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exo skeleton right there. So like we we don't
Speaker 1: like exo skeleton. We don't like that at all. Why
Speaker 1: would someone exo skeleton I don't understand. Well, I think
Speaker 1: it's a term to say that your ex maybe you're
Speaker 1: the ex reaching out to the new, like the new
Speaker 1: your your ex boyfriend's new lady, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Then you're exo skeleting your ex boyfriend. Does that make sense? No,
Speaker 1: I still don't understand. Really, it would be like Leslie
Speaker 1: reaching out to Caitlin. Leslie would be exo skeleton ng you.
Speaker 1: Why would Leslie do that because she hates him? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've had that happened to me before. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this girl reached out to me to say that
Speaker 1: my current boyfriend at the time was like a cheater
Speaker 1: and he treated her so bad about like a warning.
Speaker 1: So that's one reason why it didn't. This just happened
Speaker 1: to Janna and Mike too. She came on the podcast
Speaker 1: and talked about one of Mike's ex is reaching out
Speaker 1: to her saying some shady stuff. It was a random,
Speaker 1: It was a random, was a random on Instagram. Okay,
Speaker 1: got it, got it, got it. But that would be
Speaker 1: an example. I'm not saying that person was right. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's an example. Anyway, Let's get to emails.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get an email in here before we'd sign off.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Here we go. This is
Speaker 1: from anonymous. So I have one close friend left from
Speaker 1: childhood and it's a guy. I'm a girl, and if
Speaker 1: I'm being perfectly honest, I used to have a giant
Speaker 1: crush on him in high school. We've remained friends that
Speaker 1: have never been physical. He started getting a girl a
Speaker 1: few years ago, and she and I have become extremely close.
Speaker 1: We talked every day. I consider her one of my
Speaker 1: best friends. About six months ago, she called me crying
Speaker 1: because he told her he wants an open relationship where
Speaker 1: they could introduce other people into the bedroom, and she
Speaker 1: was not okay with that. Last week, he texted me
Speaker 1: telling me we should become even better friends and would
Speaker 1: be if I was involved with them in an erotic way.
Speaker 1: I told him that she wouldn't be okay with even
Speaker 1: when he suggested that do I tell her? He said
Speaker 1: that how do I be loyal to everyone? Here? What
Speaker 1: Trump's childhood friend or girlfriend? Uh? This is weird? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is kind of weird. I think you just got
Speaker 1: to choose which person you want as your friend, which
Speaker 1: which friendship you value more? I I do want to say,
Speaker 1: I commend the guy for being honest and communicating his
Speaker 1: desire or intention, but I will say it's kind of
Speaker 1: messed up that it sounds like it wasn't received well
Speaker 1: and he still wanted to pursue anyways, which is not
Speaker 1: very cool. I would say, tell your girlfriend what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's that's what my first instinct tells me, and that's
Speaker 1: what I think you should. Hundred percent. You should tell
Speaker 1: the girl because like she already made it known she's
Speaker 1: not okay with it. And then he texts you saying
Speaker 1: that we'd be better friends if we're involved in an
Speaker 1: erotic way. It sounds like he's manipulating her. I think
Speaker 1: you're both exactly right. And I also think there's a
Speaker 1: girl code element here. The girl always comes first when
Speaker 1: you're a girl in bro code. Girl code gotta go
Speaker 1: with the girl. But also, why wouldn't you are you?
Speaker 1: Do you not want to upset the guy because you
Speaker 1: still have these feelings for him, because I feel like
Speaker 1: his desire to have open relationships would kill those feelings.
Speaker 1: You don't want to date him, right? Is that why
Speaker 1: you're not telling him? Because you kind of want to
Speaker 1: date him because you shouldn't because it's all weird. But
Speaker 1: if unless you're really open to open relationships, and if
Speaker 1: you are, fine, but I still think you tell the girl.
Speaker 1: The only way this works is all three of them
Speaker 1: are okay with it and they move forward on the
Speaker 1: same page. But it's obviously not that that's not the case,
Speaker 1: because one of the girls called her best friend crying
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want this. So like I I'm I'm
Speaker 1: sketched out by the guy because I'm sure the girl
Speaker 1: told the guy I don't want to do this, and
Speaker 1: then he still texted Anonymous saying, I think we'd be
Speaker 1: better friends if we were all involved in a erotic
Speaker 1: in an erotic way. That sounds sketch central right there.
Speaker 1: I would I agree with Mark tell the girl. I think.
Speaker 1: I think the important thing with this too is we've talked.
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this on the podcast before.
Speaker 1: But it goes beyond just being okay with the idea
Speaker 1: of being in a relationship open relationship. I think everyone
Speaker 1: kind of has to want to be an one because
Speaker 1: if one person, let's let's say this girl is down
Speaker 1: to do it, but she's just doing it because she
Speaker 1: wants the guy to be happy, then it's still is
Speaker 1: that's not a good situation either, Like everyone should want
Speaker 1: to do it, not one person wants to do it
Speaker 1: and the other person just goes along with it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I agree, I think that
Speaker 1: it should be a girl code. I think that she
Speaker 1: should tell her girlfriend because it also sounds like he's
Speaker 1: kind of going behind her back. And yeah, like Mark said,
Speaker 1: you probably don't want to be dating this guy anyways.
Speaker 1: So to me, by the way, that's a arm of cheating.
Speaker 1: When you're in a relationship and you're texting another girl
Speaker 1: to say I'd like you in the bedroom with me
Speaker 1: and my girlfriend, that's cheating, especially when the girlfriend is
Speaker 1: not okay with it. Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely cheating. I
Speaker 1: think we're all on the same page on this one.
Speaker 1: Fellas mixed up. We have Hailey Marie. My boyfriend and
Speaker 1: I have been together for a few months now and
Speaker 1: it's gotten really serious. He's met my whole family. We
Speaker 1: spent almost all of our time together and nearly every night.
Speaker 1: This relationship is the healthiest either of us has ever
Speaker 1: been in. We make each other so happy. Here's the problem.
Speaker 1: I'm fully in love with him, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to say it first and scare him off. We talk
Speaker 1: about the future and moving in together frequently, and the
Speaker 1: way he looks at me and speaks to me makes
Speaker 1: me think he really does love me. We're potentially going
Speaker 1: to have to start doing long distance soon, and I'm
Speaker 1: worried he isn't saying it in case long distance doesn't
Speaker 1: work out well. My advice to him would be, you
Speaker 1: can't predict the future, so don't dictate your actions now
Speaker 1: by assuming something could or could not work out in
Speaker 1: the future. Uh. And then, Haley, I know your hesitations.
Speaker 1: It sucks being the first person to say you love someone,
Speaker 1: But just go on out on a limb and do it,
Speaker 1: because you're always gonna wonder what if if you don't
Speaker 1: say something, and then he doesn't say something, and then
Speaker 1: he moves away and it doesn't work out. Just put
Speaker 1: yourself out there. I remember the first person I ever
Speaker 1: told I love them was my ex girlfriend. I was
Speaker 1: nineteen at the time. We were dating for about four months,
Speaker 1: and I was super nervous. I didn't know the first
Speaker 1: time I ever told someone I love them, I didn't
Speaker 1: know if they were going to reciprocate it, and so
Speaker 1: I said, I love you, and then she said I
Speaker 1: think I'm falling in love with you. And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I think that's not bad. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then it was really sweet because then a couple of
Speaker 1: months later she was like, I just wasn't ready, you know,
Speaker 1: and she explained it at the time, but she was like,
Speaker 1: I just wasn't ready to say, and now I'm ready
Speaker 1: to say that I am completely in love with you.
Speaker 1: So it was a really nice moment. Scary for a
Speaker 1: second because I was like, I think this is good,
Speaker 1: but there's like a thirty percent chance that it's not good.
Speaker 1: But it's hard putting yourself out there. I totally understand
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, but you got it to it.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that if you feel some way
Speaker 1: about someone, there's no better time than the present to
Speaker 1: let them know how you feel. And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you wait a little bit longer to tell him,
Speaker 1: what's that going to accomplish? Probably nothing, especially if you
Speaker 1: guys are going a long distance, like you definitely want
Speaker 1: your feelings to be known. I think there really are
Speaker 1: no negatives to telling him sooner rather than later, especially
Speaker 1: if you're certain you feel that way. Like, I think
Speaker 1: the only negative would be a rushing your like decision
Speaker 1: of feeling that way and then like saying it and
Speaker 1: then actually not meaning it. But if you are certain
Speaker 1: that you do feel that way, tell him, and like,
Speaker 1: let's say he responds to it negatively for whatever reason, Uh,
Speaker 1: then it just wasn't supposed to be your person. But
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if you respond negatively. You know,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you guys, Like you said, you spend
Speaker 1: every day together. You guys have met each other's parents. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's really no negatives to actually expressing how
Speaker 1: you feel, especially when you're certain that way too. Tell him.
Speaker 1: He may not respond right away, and you have to
Speaker 1: be okay with that because he may not be ready.
Speaker 1: He may be scared. Guys are scared of commitment, all
Speaker 1: that stuff. But tell them if this relationship is what
Speaker 1: you think it is, then tell them it's going to
Speaker 1: be fine. Guys were like the Three Wise Men or
Speaker 1: or the three Stooges. There's like a gray area between
Speaker 1: those two, and I think we kind of like live
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, I think we're wise. I think we
Speaker 1: just gave some of them our best advice. I know
Speaker 1: we say this every time we give advice, and that
Speaker 1: was the best advice we've ever given. But that might
Speaker 1: have been the best advice. I totally agree. But Anonymous
Speaker 1: and Haley take our advice with a great install because
Speaker 1: you guys know better than us, but like still listen
Speaker 1: to us a little bit kind of anyway, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us this week and help I
Speaker 1: suck at dating. We love you all who listen. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much to Stephanie, Mike and Mom Liz of
Speaker 1: course from I Love a Mama's Boy, which premieres Sunday
Speaker 1: at ten pm Eastern Standard Time on t l C.
Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody who emailed in Haley. I want
Speaker 1: to say her last name was Marie Hailey, Marie and Anonymous,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your emails. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone listened to this podcast, including uh,
Speaker 1: well that's about it, including you and including you La
Speaker 1: prison listening to this right now. Thank you. I wish
Speaker 1: we could reach out and uh stay six ft apart
Speaker 1: and and and give you I don't know, you can't
Speaker 1: like a six foot hug. No, no, no, no, shaking hands.
Speaker 1: No huggings right now, but like one of those today,
Speaker 1: Did I say huggings? Yeah, one of those huggings anyway?
Speaker 1: Is that is that a diver break? I think the
Speaker 1: longer we dropped this out, the worst we're gonna start
Speaker 1: sounding late. Thanks everyone, be sure to tune next week.
Speaker 1: We've got a great episode for you. We got some
Speaker 1: of the contestants, the winners from Love Island will be
Speaker 1: joining us and you don't want to miss that, So
Speaker 1: be sure to tune next week, where maybe we will
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