WEBVTT - Momma's Boys 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.640 Hell, I Suck at Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:10.799 and I heard radio podcast What is Up, Sucky Daters. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.840 We're back with an all new episode of your favorite podcast. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.600 That's right, it's Dean and Jared. We're here for help. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.920 I Suck at Dating and boy oh boy. Just like 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:21.520 every week, we got a great episode in the store 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.479 for you. Don't with Jared, Oh yes we do. So 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.560 we have a couple of wonderful guests from the brand 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.080 new show on t LC. I Love a Mama's Boy. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.280 It's Stephanie, Mike and Mom Liz. Now that premiere is Sunday, October, 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.479 but we have them on the podcast this week. So 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.320 my question becomes, Dean, do you think I'm a mama's boy? You? 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.400 I mean, yeah, You're a mama's boy and a daddy's boy. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.560 This boy sounds weird. You're just a boy that loves 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.000 his parents. Uh. Yeah, I guess I don't know if 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.360 I'm a MoMA's boy. I don't think Ashley would describe 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.240 me as a MoMA's boy. Ashley is way more of 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.960 like a mama's girl than I am a mama's boy. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.360 Actually does love her mother. Second best friend besides her sister. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.360 I would say, right, oh, absolutely, she talks to her parents. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.520 I'm not joking at least three times a day on 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.560 the phone. At least, it's insane, it's fantastic, Like I 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.640 actually envy it because I want to be closer with 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.080 my parents. I talked to my parents all the time, 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.240 but I talked to them probably two or three times 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:22.840 a week. She talked to me three times on the 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:27.280 phone a day FaceTime. I mean, it's it's great, it's 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:31.400 it's very sweet, maybe sometimes annoying. I've got a question 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.840 as that, has that ever gotten in the way of 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:39.520 your relationship? No, honestly. So when I first met Ashley's parents, 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.280 it was after our first season of Paradise Together, where 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.520 Ashley was very into me, and I wasn't as into 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.640 Ashley at the time, at least romantically. I loved as 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.280 a human being. So I was super nervous that her 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.800 dad was just gonna freaking hate me and her mom 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.400 think I'm the biggest jerk in the world. But they 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.120 were so welcoming, they were so sweet. I felt at home. Uh, 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.320 and it it was really nice. And then it makes 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.320 it even nicer now because looking back, those were my 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.960 in laws the first time I met them. Um, I 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.560 don't know what would have happened if I didn't get 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.560 along with Ashley's parents, and I don't know what would 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:22.520 happen if Ashley, if my parents didn't like Ashley. Do 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.400 you think that Ashley's parents adoring you as much as 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.440 they did right after bat played into her obsession for you? 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.320 Because you don't think it did, No, because I don't 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.880 her parents didn't meet me before we film Paradise. No, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.840 but she I mean, I don't want to like, I 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.960 don't want to speak for anyone or put words anyone's mouth, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.200 but she definitely had I'm not gonna say the word 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.280 obsessed because that's maybe a little strong. She had very 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.040 strong feelings for you for for three years, right after Paradise, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.120 before the next Paradise, even after that Paradise, etcetera, etcetera. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.239 Do you think that her feelings were escalated because of 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.680 how much her parents are door with you. I mean, 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.240 I I don't know, but I would say that they 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.200 had to have played it into it a little bit. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.480 I mean, I guess maybe played a little bit into it, 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:11.880 like the fact that I get so you know, I 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.079 get along with her dad really well, you know what, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.680 really what it really came down to, I fit so 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:21.079 well into her family. That's I just you know how 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.400 you just meet people and you vibe with them and 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.200 you feel like you fit in. That's exactly how I 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.440 felt with her entire family, her parents or sister being 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.600 at our house, them being East Coasters, it just felt right. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.720 And so I think that maybe played a little bit 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.960 of a factor into why Ashley was so confused why 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.680 we weren't together, because everything just fit, including the family dynamic. 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.960 My question to you, Dean, have you ever been disliked 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.800 by someone else's parents. I don't want to sound too 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.680 full of myself here, but I'm pretty good when it 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.400 comes to parents. I think you are very good. You're 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.600 just so likable. And but my question is not that 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.760 they did like you in person, because everybody loves you 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.960 once when I meet you, but with like was there 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:09.480 like either Kalin's or even an ex's parents not like 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.080 you before they met you. I would say it's never 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.719 happened until Paradise the first time. For me. I can't 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.280 imagine why. I can't imagine why parents wouldn't want them 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.840 dating their their daughter dating Dean from Bachelor in Paradise 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.960 At that time, I was I was America's f boy 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.479 for a while, and I wouldn't say it ever lets 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:32.560 anyone disliking me, parents wise, but it definitely created, uh 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.880 an extra obstacle for me to hurdle. I guess you 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.320 could say, I'm trying to think of specifics. It was 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.080 like it was like whenever I met someone new, whether 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.960 I was dating, let's say, let's say I was like 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.039 dating Leslie or Christine or whoever I was dating post 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.400 first Bachelor in Paradise, right, I was was always an 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.839 upholl battle. I was always starting from like from a 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.080 negative two position and having to get back to zero 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.280 was like a challenge. Not a challenge, but like it 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.520 took a challenge tone because people had an idea of 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.279 who you were and what you were all about. And 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.040 obviously you're not that guy. You just make certain mistakes. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.720 That does suck, But uh, you know what's funny. Parents 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.679 do love you to the point where after I started 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:17.719 dating Ashley, we were boyfriend girlfriend maybe fiance's at this time. Audrey, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.600 Ashley's mom got you a gift. I don't know if 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.400 you ever got it. I don't remember it might have 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.920 been like suspenders or something, but she saw them thought 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.400 of you bought them for you? And I was like, Audrey, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.120 you're buying gifts for Dean. I'm your future son in law. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.080 This is bullshit. That's almost parents love. That just speaks 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.039 to how great Audrey is. I would say, but no, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.880 Ashley's mother and I we've met a couple of times 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.240 and she's fantastic. Uh I don't know. Yeah, she's great. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.120 I've got nothing bad to say about her. So well, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.880 you're just great with parents, man. Uh, thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.000 it's it's maybe maybe because I don't have parents in 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.080 my own, so I I overextend myself to h to 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.080 make other parents like me. I'm like a child of 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.920 all my friends parents, you know what I mean? Can 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.160 I ask one question before we bring in the guests? 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.560 And this is on a little bit more of an 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.640 emotional level, so please if you don't feel comfortable answering it, 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.560 let me know. But do you get like, does that 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:19.760 bother you at all? The fact that like you can't um, 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:24.600 you know, get your parents, you know. Signature of approval. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.800 Uh well, firstly, Jared, you should know this by now. 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:32.640 That nothing makes me uncomfortable. Uh second, secondly, does it 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.400 bother me that I can't get there? Like blessing or 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.240 make you make you sad? You know? I would say, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.120 of all the things that would make me sad about 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.560 not having parents, that's like the least thing that would 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.280 make me sad. But I will say there are things 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.360 that like not having parents kind of makes things more 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:54.120 convenient and easier. Whereas like let's say, let's say, you know, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.279 hypothetical world, your parents hate like despised Ashley, and because 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.040 of that, like you couldn't carry on a relationship with 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.200 actually because obviously you care about your parents opinion and 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:04.720 you want to make them happy as well as make 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.240 yourself happy, So there would be like some tension in 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.280 the relationships somehow. Not having parents for me like I 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.000 never have to worry about my parents blessing. Like let's 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.840 say I introduced my in another hypothetical world my parents 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.280 to Kalin and they're like, oh, Kalin sucks, we hate her, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.320 we don't want you to Dator, but I really liked her, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.800 and I was like, well, I wanted Dat, or I 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.240 would have to choose between Dat and Kalin and making 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.200 my parents happy so there's like, you know, there's pros 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:29.840 and cons, but I like, I don't have to worry 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.960 about getting a blessing from my parents to date anyone. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.080 I don't have to worry about, like, uh, certain things 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.840 like that. I guess I was gonna say a holidays, 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.320 you know, like there's less pressure for that kind of stuff. Uh. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.760 So that's like the Barbs. It's like the Barb scenario 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.840 from Peter season, or at least the way it looked 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.320 like to play it out, where Peter had to choose 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.640 between Maddie and Barb. Yeah, exactly. I guess that's a 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.160 different way of looking at it, but a interesting way 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.000 new to it. I mean, you always you always kind 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.720 of gotta find the silver lining, you know, And I 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.760 mean I would say overall, there's probably more negatives than 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.000 there are positives. But I think if you just look 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:08.200 for the positives, it's Kalen gets the seal of approval 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:13.120 from Ashley and me, and that's all that matters. That's 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.160 all I care about too. It's just you guys approving, 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.920 you know. Duh. So we do have our guests that 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.440 are waiting on the line, but before we talk to 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:34.360 Mama's boys, let's take a quick break. Welcome back to 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.160 help suck at dating. We have some very special guests 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.360 who are joining us right now via zoom obviously COVID 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.679 from the brand new show I Love a Mama's Boy, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.920 which premieres Sunday, October at ten pm on TLC. We 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:54.560 have Stephanie, Mike, and of course Mike's mom, Liz. Thank 0:08:54.600 --> 0:09:00.560 you so much for joining us. Guys. So because we 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.320 work at my Heart, we get special treatment sometimes. And 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.680 I've actually seen the first episode. Have you guys watched 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.800 anything yet? She hasn't. My mom and I have gotten 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.160 to see some clips from some of the other family's 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.120 got a little bit of a little bit of a preview, 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.720 Not as much as we'd like to see, but yeah, 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.520 we got we got a little insight. Have you guys 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.640 seen anything of yourself yet? They won't show us, They 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.520 won't let us see our own foot and we've been asking. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.920 I feel very special right now because I've seen tell 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.640 us everything. I'm I mean, Mike, I mean, you come 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.920 off as a Mama's boy. I expected that, needless to say, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.760 but it's well, I well, I can't say anything because 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.800 I don't want to. One I don't know if legally 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.680 I can into I'm for you guys, but I guess. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:51.280 Here's here's my question. My first question Mike and Stephanie. Well, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.840 I want to ask Stephanie's first how much of a 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.720 mama's boy is Mike? Mike is a major mama's boy. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.360 I'm the one that sent him into the show the 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.280 second I all that I literally didn't even read passed 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.600 do you know a Mom's Boy, and sent it right 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.560 over to him. I mean, these two are on the 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.680 phone all day every day, and then the second we 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.640 leave her house, they're on the phone the whole part 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.760 right home. So she's laughing because she knows that's true. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.880 It's anyway it is, Liz, how many times a day 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:24.720 do you talk to Mike? Um, let me say countless 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:30.840 once because the conversation just never ends. And my god, 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.800 you know what, because I always have everything to tell him. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.400 I have so much to tell him. He's like my 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:42.400 best friend too, you know. So yeah, it really does well, Liz. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.960 In the episode, uh, you know, we talk about you know, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.680 what happened with Mike's dad? Uh? And my um, I 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.160 know it's a long time ago, but of course I'm 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.920 sorry to hear that. Um, but do you think that 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.080 because you were a single parent, like you became closer 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:03.680 to Mike because of that? Yes? I Well we've always 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.079 been close. I mean since birth. I mean he was born, 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.400 and it's like, you know, that's your child and they're 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.560 putting too your arms and that's like your life, you know. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.480 So that's already such a strong bond to begin with. Um, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.200 and then after his father passed away, I felt almost 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:23.480 like I had to take on two roles and um, yeah, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.120 and so yeah, maybe that it became stronger because of that. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.080 It was always strong, but became even stronger. So I 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.440 was always like the mama bear, and now I was 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.640 like double I was my Yeah, Stephanie, I got a 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.640 question for you. What is it like dating a mama's boy? 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.480 You know, it's a lot, it's a lot to handle. 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.160 At first, when I first started dating Mike, I didn't 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.880 really realize the magnitude of how much of my mom 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.720 was boy he was. We moved in with each other 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.040 about a year ago, and that's when it really hit 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.839 because it was like I'd come home from work and 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.280 I would be excited to talk to Mike and tell 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.160 him about my work day and just like on find 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.000 with him and like he's unwinding with his mom on 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.880 the phone, and it's like I couldn't even get a 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.280 word in and that's something. It's like, all right, you know, 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.600 there might be some issues here trying to figure out 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.720 who the number one woman in his life. You know, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.360 me and Liz are both competitive people, so it kind 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.640 of don my energy. Like here, the thing is okay 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.000 that we have to talk about this stuff and I 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.080 live together, right, So Steph says she wants to come 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.120 home from work and you know, try to unwind. Like 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.800 we also met at work, So first thing in the 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.160 morning she gets to talk and just avent as much 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:32.720 as she wants. And then throughout the course of the day. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.640 Guess what, when we're working, I see her all day 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.959 doing that too. So step also is somebody who needs 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.360 a hundred percent of the attention. So I feel like 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.079 that kind of gets taken out a conflict where at work? 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.800 Where at work? And then when I'm done with work, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.240 I'm like, all right, so let me let's talk about life. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.960 Let's talk about you know, not work. Can you say 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.080 which talk show you guys work on? Because he didn't. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.160 We are talk show. Didn't want us to say it 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.240 on the show, so it's cut out. I don't know 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:02.280 if it's it's not on this it's not on the show. Yeah, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.320 they didn't want us our show. They wanted to show 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.160 us on the show. Our show, didn't want us to 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.760 be it's a very popular daytime talk show television. Yeah, 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.000 you can't say it now, right because now, like my 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:17.080 mind is, I'm like, I'm all over the place, all right, neverbody, 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:22.120 we don't even risk don't even risk it. Yeah, we 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:26.760 worked for the more show. Okay, okay, very well, that's fine, 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.160 that's fine to say it was more for the purpose 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.480 of the show. But okay, well that's you go on 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.720 our Instagram, bios or whatever. You can see that social media. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.760 That's going to get I have a million questions about that, 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.079 but I will will wait for another podcast for that. Um, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.560 I want to know how Mike and stuff, how far 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:50.280 do you live from Liz. Let's than an hour. That's 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.400 a pretty long way to be like a mama's boy. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.040 It's a little too far from my taste. Okay, can 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.040 I give you guys an example? But our October has 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.720 looked like so far so in the beginning of the month, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.000 we hung out with Liz, and then a week later 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.480 we went to a pumpkin patch and we went to 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.440 a brewery with Liz, and then this weekend we were 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.760 actually invited to a dinner to go back up with 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.480 Liz and the rest of the family. So I'm not 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.080 sure we're gonna make it to the dinner. Yeah, I 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.080 don't think we're making it to the dinner. But the 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.960 endless plans and it's always endless fun to be happy. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.360 That's not so bad. I I imagine like a mom's boy, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.800 like by big fat Greek wedding where they like, you 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.600 literally live across the street from your parents. See, that's 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.360 the thing though, It's like, you know, I have a 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.160 mom's boy in the sense that we have a super 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.560 close relationship. We call each other and talk out a 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.800 lot of big life decision into here if I need advice, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.160 But you know, in terms of everything else, I feel 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.880 like that was one thing I wanted to make clear 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.480 on the show was I do have a sense of 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.800 independence too, And I guess the viewers will see kind 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.480 of and leave it up to their discretion of how 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.920 much they agree with me. But also Liz has made 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.960 joking comment about living with us, cooking for us, so 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.960 it's definitely been mentioned. She's like, hey, if we get 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.760 another show, maybe I can come up with you. I'm like, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:14.880 are in law apartments? Someday? There you go. I've got 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.800 a question. So, Stephanie and Liz, have you guys ever 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.800 had like an argument or anything fighting over Mike just 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.680 like for his attention? Well, it's not necessarily. I feel 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.200 like the arguments are more passive aggressive. The one thing 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.600 that I think you'll see in the show is about 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.280 um skiing. I think is something that we argue about. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.240 I love skiing and Liz hates it and things, and 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.720 I've really corrupted Mike's mind. It's becoming like a big 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.840 dangerous here, not dangerous, but black diamond letter, black diamond 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.040 here because of me, And that has been are like 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.080 one of hard clashing points. So, but it's usually not 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.400 like a you know, a blowout argument. It's more like 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.040 why are you doing this? Dean? I'm sure Liz would 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:02.600 love to hear how you broke your leg ski Don't 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:07.560 I know the story, Dean? Please don't tell I'm begging you. Actually, 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.640 you know what's funny? Did you say that as Steff 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.640 even said, Oh jeez, I feel like this might get 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.960 brought up. I don't even want to bring literally talked 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:19.000 about this the day something God forbid happen, and sad 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.600 what it never does. I am moving in to take 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:27.280 care of her. So Stephanie remember that, Mike, just be 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.080 careful if you go to Switzerland, just be careful out there. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.760 That's all I gotta say. I'll be very careful to 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.440 do it. I feel like that's still years out of 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.920 my level of expertise to anyway. Yeah, same same out 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.760 of mind apparently too, So I don't know. I guess 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.520 I'm the same level on that one. Yeah, so Mike, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.520 when because you know your quote unquote this mama's boy. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.680 I feel like bad saying that, but you know, part 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.480 of the show. Uh So, you know, did you always 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.800 know that your mom was always gonna have to give 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:02.400 a seal of approval before you we're gonna marry someone. Yeah? 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.520 I did. And you know, honestly, there's been relationships in 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.200 my past where I thought that there was someone that 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.560 maybe could be the one, or you know, maybe I 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.560 felt a little bit more serious. You know how young 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.239 love is sometimes, and like there were times where my 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.160 mom didn't always approve And then now looking back, once 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.480 I met Steph, I was like, Okay, my mom was 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.080 actually right back then about those other people in the 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.119 exerciety dated in the past. But in the back of 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.040 my mind, like I always knew, like first or second date, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.919 it's like, damn, his mom gonna like her because if not, Like, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.840 why am I wasted my time? Liz, did you have 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.720 any uh, like, do you remember any instances instances where 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:45.399 you were like Mike, no, oh yeah, every single girlfriend 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:53.600 literally like my teenage dude, I remember when I was 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.960 fifteen years old, Like it was like my first time 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.600 we went over to a fair and like I remember 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.679 that I had this she's literally rolling her eyes, I 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.560 like walking around with like like I literally introduced her 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.400 to this one girl that she got a bad impression 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.280 up and my mom just gave her the nastiest look 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.480 and like completely ruined my weekend. And like that was 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.960 the first time I ever really introduced her to a girlfriend, 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.600 and I knew, like, damn, this is gonna be a 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.120 tough look. It took me to I was twenty six 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:19.680 and eleven years so I find when she could be 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:24.760 cord with with. I mean, honestly, it's nice you've got this, 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.399 You've got your mother serving as like a filter to 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.920 kind of keep out the ones that maybe you aren't 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.040 worth your time. And obviously it worked out because you've 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:40.640 now you've got Stephanie, right, all those yeah, those losers? Uh? 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.680 But Mike, well, so knowing that your mom needed there 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.120 was so much pressure with your with your mom making 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.160 sure that you had the right girl, you know, with Stephanie. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.280 Did you really hold off on introducing Stephanie to your 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.959 mom because you knew that there was gonna be like 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.919 this wrath coming her way? You know, I'd be lying 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.080 if I said that it wasn't on the back of 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.399 my mind. I did wait a little bit. Um. But 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.560 at the same time, though, Steph and I were friends 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.320 for like a long time before we ever even started 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.760 dating or had like a romantic relationship, So my mom 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.760 had already been familiar with Steph. And I actually think 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.800 you guys had already maybe even net in passing before 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.480 we started dating. Yes, we did meet in passing. That's different, right, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.280 And wait, how did you guys meet? Oh? Because you 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.840 worked together? Yeah, so we workedgether And then there was 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.439 one time where I was out with some friends and 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.600 he had taken his mom out to like the same 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.040 bar restaurant that I was out at, and I was like, oh, 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.920 there's Mike and his mom my mom on on the 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.680 date like Friday night. Let's go say hi. And then 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.359 me and my girlfriend went said hi to him and 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.720 his mom. That is awesome. See how fun I was 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.720 back in my single days. I was dating my mom 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.879 on Friday nights and then I ended up seeing stuff 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.600 out and I was like, Yep, that's my guy right there. 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.320 We did have fun. We have fun every time we 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.320 go out. So, Stephanie, have you done anything specific to 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.399 try to win over Liz's good graces? Like how do you? 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.320 What have you done? Absolutely so, very early on if 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.439 the relationship, Liz got me a cookbook, and I have 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.199 been really working hard to make sure I feed her 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:20.840 son properly healthy meals. So I have actually changed up 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.919 my whole cooking methods. So I don't know, maybe you'll 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.280 see a little bit about that on the show, but 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.760 I yeah, I just I'm a lot of I'm a 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:31.919 lot more of a clean eater now because I cooked 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:33.480 for Mike. So I want to make sure that she 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.240 approves everything, because in the beginning I was kind of 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.280 noticing maybe some judgment from her. I was making like 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.639 mac and cheese chicken pope pie, and she was like, oh, 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:43.800 you know, why don't you make him a salid? And 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:47.600 I was like, oh, so things like that that I do. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:49.520 Try and press her. I'll send her, I'll text her 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.919 pictures of the meals I cooked. Stuff like that. They 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:53.840 also got a lot closer. On vacation. We went to 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.760