1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest developments in the trade war. 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump says he might stop trade in cooking 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: oil with China. The President posted on social media that 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: the US can easily produce it itself and does not 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: need to purchase it from China. That says China plans 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: to impose new export restrictions on rare earth metals, and 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: despite the latest flare up, both countries are set to 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 3: meet for further trade talks ahead of a November one 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: deadline for one hundred percent US tariffs on Chinese goods. 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Balance of Power hosts Joe Matthew has more from Washington. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 4: Guys. 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 5: I don't know if this is going to be the 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 5: path to a deal with China. The President is supposed 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 5: to sit down with Shijinping in just a couple of 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 5: weeks at the APEX summit in Korea. The administration, by 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 5: way of the Treasury Secor Harry's still. 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 6: Saying that that meeting is on. 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 5: And we heard from ust our Career today saying they 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 5: even have a time. We haven't seen that publicly, but 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 5: they have a time to meet and that has not 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 5: changed yet. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Balance of Power hosts Joe Matthew. 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: Both the President and Trade Representative Jamison Grier have expressed 27 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: confidence that friction with China will ease through negotiations. 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Now, let's get to the latest on the government shutdown, Nathan. 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: It's day fifteen of the spending fight on Capitol Hill 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: and President Trump is renewing his threat to cut federal programs. 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: He says he'll have a list of priorities headed for 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: the shopping block this Friday. 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 7: We're closing up programs that are Democrat programs that we 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 7: wanted to close up, or that we never wanted to happen, 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 7: and now we're closing them up, and we're not going 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 7: to let him come back. The Democrats are getting. 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Killed, President Trump spoke during a meeting with Argentinian President 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: Javier Malay at the White House. Meantime, members of the 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: military are set to miss their first paychecks today. House 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: Minority Leader Hockey M. Jefferies is in sisting Republicans need 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: to negotiate on democrats healthcare demands. 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 8: We also need to make sure that we take care 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 8: of all of our hardworking federal civil servants, which is 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 8: why Republicans should be back here in Washington working with 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 8: us to reopen the government. 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: House Minority Leader Honking Jeffrey spoke on Capitol Hill. President 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: Trump has directed the Defense Department to divert unspent research 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: funds to pay the troops. House Speaker Mike Johnson has 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: said he is the right to do that without congressional 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: approval and. 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 6: As the government shut down. Lingers on Karen. 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: Massachusetts Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is criticizing President Trump over 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: his decision to allocate twenty billion dollars in taxpayer funds 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: to Argentina. 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 6: Warren spoke on Bloomberg's Bounce of Power. 56 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 9: Let me get this straight. Argentina hurts American farmers, and 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 9: the President of the United States responds by giving twenty 58 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 9: billion dollars to Argentina, plus Secretary best saying and a 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 9: blank checks they need more. 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 6: That's Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren. 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: Now, President Trump is suggesting the twenty billion dollar lifeline 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: could be contingent on Libertarian leader jave Or Malay's success 63 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: in Argentina's midterm elections. You can catch our full interview 64 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: with Senator Warren on the Bloomberg Podcast channel on YouTube. 65 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: Nathan, let's get to the latest. Now in the Middle East, 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: the Israeli military now says one of the four bodies 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: handed over by Hamas yesterday is not that of a hostage. 68 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: It comes as an Israeli military agency also says it 69 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: would have the number of trucks allowed to bring humanitarian 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: aid into Gaza over concerns that the militant group was 71 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: returning the remains more slowly than agreed meantime, President Trump 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: demanded that Hamas return the bodies of deceased hostages. President 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Trump threatened the militant group with retaliation if it does 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: not lay down its arms. 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 7: We have told them we want disarmed, and they will disarm. 76 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 6: And if they don't diss we will disarm them. 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 7: And it'll happen quickly and perhap aps violently, but they 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 7: will disarmed. 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 10: You understand me. 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: President Trump says the disarmament would have to occurred within 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: quote a reasonable period of time. 82 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: Well, Karen, we're watching stocks in France this morning. They're 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: up two point four percent. That's after French Prime Minister 84 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Sebastian Lacorneo won the backing of the Socialist Party, boosting 85 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: his chances of surviving two no confidence votes set for tomorrow, 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: also boosting French shares. An earnings beat from Paris based LVMH, 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: the owner of Louis Vuitton and Christian do Your unexpectedly 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: returned to sales growth in the third quarter. It suggests 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: a slump in luxury demand is easing and shares of 90 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: LVMH right now are up nearly fourteen percent and. 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: Return to the markets now Nathan where futures are higher. 92 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: On optimism over raid cuts, yesterday, FED chair J. Powell 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: reinforced bets and a cut later this month. Given a 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: weakening labor market. 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 10: For the last few months, we've been able to maintain 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 10: our strictive stance because the labor market was still pretty solid. 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 10: I think that the data we got right after the 98 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 10: July meeting showed that which adjusted back all the way 99 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 10: through May, showed that the labor market has actually softened 100 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 10: pretty considerably and puts us in a situation where the 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 10: two risks are closer to being at balance. 102 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 6: FED J. J. 103 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: Powell made the comments yesterday at the National Association for 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: Business economics in Philadelphia. The fed's next rate decision is 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: two weeks from today. JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: says he will offer to help zoorn Mom Donnie if 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: Mondamie becomes the next mayor of New York City and 108 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: we get more with Bloomberg's John Tucker. 109 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 11: Talk about strange Bedfellows. Diamond is head of the biggest 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 11: US bank. Mom Donnie is the socialist candidate and Democratic 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 11: front runner. Should Mom Donny win the mayor's race, Diamond 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 11: says he will offer to help. As he put it, 113 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 11: I have to deal with the world I got, you know, 114 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 11: not the world I want. And if he becomes mayor, 115 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 11: so be it. Mam Donnie has already held several sitdowns 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 11: or private phone calls with executives in New York, including Diamond, 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 11: as part of a charm offensive. Diamond, who previously referred 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 11: to Mom Donnie is more of a Marxist than a socialist, 119 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 11: so that it's important for business leaders or in odds 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 11: with local officials to get involved in grow up. He 121 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 11: also added that it's odd to have the bashion of 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 11: American capitalism with a socialists getting that job in New 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 11: Yorkome John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 124 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: Time Now for a look at some of the other 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: stories making news in New York and around the world. 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 2: And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, 127 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: good Morning. 128 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: Good Morning, Karen. A group of House Democrats marched into 129 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: Speaker Mike Johnson's office on Capitol Hill Tuesday afternoon, demanding 130 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: that he's swearing Representative elect out of Leader Grahava, a 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: Democrat from Arizona. Johnson was not there. It comes as 132 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: to push for a full release of the Epstein files 133 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: is stalled because of the government shutdown. Grahava would be 134 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: the final signature needed to force a House floor vote 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: on the release of the Epstein files, but Republicans have 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 4: chosen to keep the House out of session, delaying or 137 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: swearing in Presentative elect Grivahava spoke in front of the 138 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: Speaker's office. 139 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: I have not had one word from Speaker Johnson, not 140 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: one word, and we sent a letter. 141 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 6: Now our Attorney. 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 12: General is getting involved because this is taxation without representative. 143 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: Rey Havas says, if she were a Republican, she would 144 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: have already been sworn in. MGM Resorts International pulled out 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: of the competition to operate a casino in the New 146 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: York area due to shifting economic and competitive conditions. Three 147 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: companies are still in the running to operate casinos in 148 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: New York. President Donald Trump posthumously awarded conservative activist Charlie 149 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: Kirk the nation's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. 150 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: President Trump at the Rose Garden ceremony, We're. 151 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 7: Here to honor and remember a fearless warrior for liberty, 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 7: beloved leader who galvanized the next generation like nobody I've 153 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 7: ever seen before. 154 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: Kirk was fatally shot on September tenth while speaking at 155 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: Utah Valley University on the first stop of his The 156 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: American Comeback Tour. Global News twenty four hours a day 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. Michael Barr, 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: this is Bloomberg Heren. 159 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: Thanks Michael time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, and 160 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: for that we bring in John stash Hour. 161 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 13: Thanks Karen brilliant starting pitching as lift of the LA 162 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 13: Dodgers to a two to nothing lead in the NLCS 163 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 13: the night after Blake Snell went eight innings, allowed only 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 13: one hit, Yashinobu Yamamoto went nine innings gave up just 165 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 13: three hits. The Dodgers won five to one in Milwaukee. 166 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 13: They go home up to nothing in the series. Game 167 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 13: three of the ALCS. Tonight in Seattle, the Mariners lead 168 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 13: Toronto two games to nine. Edmundton oiler is a two 169 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 13: to nothing shut out of the Rangers, who are the 170 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 13: first team ever to get shut out in each of 171 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 13: their first three home games to start a season. That's 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 13: a Bloomberg Sports update. 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 6: Stay with us. 174 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: More from Bloomberg day Break coming up after this. 175 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide, Serious exam and 176 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg 177 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Cooking oil is now heating 179 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: up US China trade tensions. President Trump's threatening to stop 180 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: buying it from China because Beijing isn't buying soybeans from America. 181 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: It's rattling the market, even as US Trader Representative Jamison 182 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: Greer saying things will work out between the world's two 183 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 3: biggest economies. 184 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: There's always some level of dramatics to it, where they 185 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: will you know, if we take measures, you know, little 186 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: measures here, and they they'll threaten to bring down hell 187 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: fire and things like that. 188 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 6: That was US Trade Rep. 189 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: Jamison Greer on SANDBC before the president's latest trade salvo. 190 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: For more were joined by Bloomberg News Chief Asia correspondent 191 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: Rosalind Matheson and Roz. We've talked before about the US 192 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: and China positioning, have trade talks expected later this month? 193 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 6: How did cooking oil get caught in the middle? Good morning, 194 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 6: Good morning. 195 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 12: Well, yes, it's now moved from shipping to cooking oil, 196 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 12: it seems. And Donald Trump, as you was saying, using 197 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 12: that to say that he might retaliate for what he 198 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 12: sees as Beijing's refusal to buy American soybeans. The interesting 199 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 12: thing in all of this is that cooking oil is 200 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 12: actually only a very small import for China. Only a 201 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 12: small amount of cooking oil does come in from China 202 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 12: to the US in terms of specifically just how much 203 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 12: soybeans China has, you know, typically imported from the US. 204 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 12: So it's a bit of an asymmetrical thing to come 205 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 12: at in terms of Donald Trump's comments overnight, because again 206 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 12: soybean's far Outwait, whatever the US brings in when it 207 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 12: comes to processed food all. But it's just now the 208 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 12: sign of how broad and complex these trade tensions are. 209 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 12: So we've gone from you know, rare earths and high 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 12: tech and chips, to shipping to soy and now to 211 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 12: cooking oil. And obviously there are other aspects of the 212 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 12: trade relationship potentially to come. And is this again simply 213 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 12: positioning before a potential meeting between Queen Cjmping and Donald Trump. 214 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 12: We do know from US officials at least that the 215 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 12: lines of communication are open. I mean, Jamison Greer said 216 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 12: that as well, that there was a meeting as recently 217 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 12: as Monday between some unnamed US and Chinese officials, so 218 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 12: they are at least talking to each other. The question is, 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 12: in all of this tit for tat that's going on, 220 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 12: desire the country overstep in a way that puts the 221 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 12: other country in a difficult spot and makes a meeting 222 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 12: impossible for Trump and Seed to agree to. 223 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: Do we know anything further ras about what's come out 224 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: of those talks that the Trump administration has talked about 225 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 3: this week, other than the idea that they are still talking, No, 226 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: we know very. 227 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 12: Little about those conversations and again we don't even know 228 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 12: from Jameson Greer who was involved in that conversation that 229 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 12: potentially happened at the start of this week. We also 230 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 12: know that the US Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson said that 231 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 12: he was expecting to meet the Chinese Vice president one 232 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 12: more time before the end of the month. Is this 233 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 12: about trying to get the foundations for Sieging Ping and 234 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 12: Donald Trump to sit in a room and come out 235 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 12: with something, either extension of the trade truth that they've 236 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 12: got or something more tangible and lasting. And it seems 237 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 12: to be that they're obviously trying to clear the pathway 238 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 12: through all these different tension points to get there, but 239 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 12: we have very little sense so far of what exactly 240 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 12: those conversations have been like. 241 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: Well, that raises the question then about whether all these 242 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: threats are just that threats, or whether we could see 243 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: something concrete in terms of shifting purchases or even that 244 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: thread of one hundred percent tariffs on Chinese imports on 245 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: November first? Is November one the next tipping point here? 246 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: We got about a minute left. 247 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 12: Potentially, and obviously a lot would depend on that meeting 248 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 12: and what comes out of it and how much they 249 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 12: use their personal rapport with each other to come to 250 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 12: an agreement. But you know, you've got Sieging Ping who's 251 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 12: got a lot at stake at home with his economy, 252 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 12: versus Donald Trump, who can be quite impulsive in the 253 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 12: minute in announcing things or deciding things, and we've seen 254 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 12: that before, and he can also change his mind very quickly. 255 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 12: So that does inject a high level of uncertainty into 256 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 12: this into this meeting. Does Trump just feel in the 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 12: minute he's not got what he wanted and so he 258 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 12: slaps extra tariffs on It's very hard to say, but 259 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 12: certainly this climate of constant you know, tit for tat 260 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 12: action and threats against each other is not conducive to 261 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 12: going into it to a meeting where you're hoping to 262 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 12: get some kind of tangible outcome. 263 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast on the stories 264 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 265 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 266 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or manywhere else you listen. 267 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 268 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 269 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: in New York. 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