WEBVTT - We Salute Ben Simmons And Say Our Final Goodbyes 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.760 On this episode of This League, we have a massive announcement. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:08.560 This will be the last Barstool Sports This League episode 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.760 in history. The pod will be tier. Yeah, it's a tier. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.800 I'm sad. The pod will be continuing. We will be 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.920 going somewhere else with the podcast A. Dave and Erica 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.400 and the Barstool family have been nice enough to allow 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.159 me to continue it somewhere else. I will not be 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.319 able to take Marty with me, unfortunately, he will be 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.560 with you in spirits. More on that in a minute. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.479 We also get into very fittingly for this League. Of course, 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.680 it has to be the final segment of the episodes, 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.240 very final segment of the entire series. That is This League, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:47.159 which is mister balloon Hans. Oh my god, what a 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:53.280 bum Ben Simmons. What perfect symmetry. The universe is always undefeated, 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.280 always on time, always there for me, So do me 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.000 a favor. Marty drop the beat for the last. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:06.920 Time, trying to take care and said, you'll be waiting. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.800 For plan never stop. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:14.080 We got the grand NiFe, go, let me go the game, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.560 game and everybody knows. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.560 So yeah, the big lead is that I'm I'm bouncing. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.240 This is the last branded episode of this league. I'm 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.600 leaving Barstool Sports. I am going to take a job 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.800 doing a sports gambling show called MGM Tonight, Bet MGM Tonight. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.880 I'm also going to be working for w f N 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.800 here in New York, but I'll also be on six 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.959 seventy the Score in Chicago. I will be on WIP 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:47.520 in Philly. Shout out to Philly. Fucking shout out to 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.880 Philly for making my career take a next step, getting 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.440 a bag from the powers that be because of you 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:59.240 Philly fans. Without your rage, none of this would be possible. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.960 Uh also to do some work on a Milwaukee station 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.320 that is connected to six to sevenue this Score, which 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.679 thank you sons in four. What does that mean for 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.280 this league? I have to change the name. Obviously I 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.440 cannot take the name with me, but I will be 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.760 taking the subscribers with me, and the followers and the 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.760 TikTok and the YouTube shows. Shout out to Marty for 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:27.399 building this YouTube up. I will not have Marty here 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.799 to listen to my ridiculous takes anymore, but I will 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.440 miss him. If you're a subscriber, you're still going to 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.000 be getting the podcast on the same feed, So I 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.200 don't think there's really anything for you to do, Like 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.799 it's on iHeart, it's on Spotify, it's on Apple. I'm 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:45.200 still working out like how that logistically technically goes, but 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.160 it's happening. A bottom line, can't stop, won'll stop, Like 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.280 this is a roleie, not a stop watch. The shit 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:56.520 don't ever stop. So it is a bittersweet moment. I'm sad. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:58.040 I'm sad too. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.960 Just do you let me ask you a question before 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.320 we get into this segment, like how would you characterize 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.480 this seventy This is seventy fifth episode, seventy six episode, 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.440 how would you how do you look back. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.560 On this time? It was the first podcast I was 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.560 assigned to do at Barstool Sports. I started in November 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.840 and we started this in January, like right when we 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.160 got back from holiday, and it was, I mean pretty 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:23.800 crazy I got to talk about I mean, I didn't 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.200 expect to be on the mic in here as much 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.880 as you allowed me to. So thank you for that. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.680 It's fun, Yeah, just for me to be able to 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.200 just work on an NBA podcast at Barsool Sports, where 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.120 that's the one league that I love the most and 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.800 where I feel like Barstool was lacking a little bit. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.240 I mean, at the time, we clearly didn't have an 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.080 NBA podcast, so that was sweet. And to be able 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.440 to yeah, be on the mic for it was, you know, 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.440 something I never thought was going to be possible that 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.440 shortly into my tenure at Barstool, So thank you. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.560 And to me, I think the best part, like, truthfully, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.240 one of the moments that I will never forget because 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.880 I'm a sucker for nostalgia. I'm sucker for family shit. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.320 Is like just that moment with you and your dad 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.760 in the finals, and like the fact that the Phoenix 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.880 Suns on our very first season together went to the 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:12.280 finals and that we were there is an unforgettable moment. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.640 So yeah, for the last time under this league name 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.840 Marty and I will get to just completely take a 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:25.080 dump on Ben Simmons, just legitimately go in on this 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.840 ridiculousness that is him. So the big news is this, 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.240 At the very moment I publicly announced that I was 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.800 going to another place, this Ben Simmons news dropped again. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.640 Universe undefeated. Right. Ben Simmons has told the six Ers 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.200 he is not showing up to camp. I am holding out, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.039 he says, get me the fuck out of Philly. I'm 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.039 never coming back, I want nothing to do with you, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.520 and so on and so on and so on. Who 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.839 could have seen that coming. Surely not Doc Rivers, right 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.720 like he would have never ever thought Ben would need 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.560 to leave. After the media asked Doc Rivers, do you 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.159 think you have a championship caliber point guard? And he 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:11.600 was like, I don't know, just a Jordan Truck I mean, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.640 certainly not Joel Embiid. No, No, we're good friends. No, 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.800 they love each other. Not after he just buries Ben, 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.880 saying that Ben passing up that dunk slash layup was 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.600 the turning point in the series and costed them the. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.200 Game, Like, no, did you see his tweet? 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.919 Yeah, I love Ben, I love playing He made it 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.799 very clear he loves playing with Ben. He doesn't actually 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:40.480 love Ben as a person. Not Danny Green, who is 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:46.320 not now answering questions about trade specifics and getting into 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.039 details about which players he thinks will be on the 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.720 roster that are not named Ben Simmons for the Ben 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:57.040 Simmons trade wow, And certainly not Darryl Morey, not him, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.480 not the guy who got into town and immediately tried 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.760 to ship Ben Simmons out for his guy, James Harden 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.120 and the guy who then lied about being fully committed 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:07.800 to Ben, and he was just testing the market. He 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.760 loves Ben. Ben is the point guard in the future. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.040 He's a perennial All Star. He's a defensive Player of 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.520 the Year. He is unique, special in all his gifts 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.880 in ways we cannot appreciate. And he is here for 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.840 the long term. Not when Daryl Moury was shopping Ben 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.320 all off season, trying to get anything, anything, anything for Ben, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.400 telling the world he was not shopping Ben but was 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:34.120 open to trade requests. No, no way any of this 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.680 could happen when all of these players decided, and now 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:43.720 also now the fan base just so welcoming, so supportive, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.080 so warm embraced. The Philly fan base is not like 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.599 they've ever tried to run anyone out of Philly. Never 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.920 booed anyone, not even Joel Embiid. They didn't ever boo him. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:54.320 Today. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.880 Personally, I'm shocked. I could not have seen that Ben 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.880 would decide this was unsalvageable and threatening to hold out. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:05.400 No way. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.880 But the crazy thing is like all of that's our 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.280 chasm aside, Like this is the core to me, This 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:18.680 is the most delusional element. Okay, so everyone coach, head 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.960 of basketball operations, probably the popcorn guy, the fans, teammates, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.040 all of them have decided we want Ben gone. Yes, 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.720 get this guy off the fucking team. Get him out. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.240 He's a cancer, he's not doing his job, he's overpaid. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.040 We need to get somebody else in who's a real 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.760 point guard. And as soon as Ben says, and listen, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.120 Ben is to blame for a lot. But as soon 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.960 as Ben says, you know what, you guys are right 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.200 and in fact, I'm gonna take a chill, stay away 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.600 from this fucking team, hold out until you guys can 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.840 get me a new location, everybody else is like. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.800 What, No, how could you Ben? 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.040 How could you say that? How could you bring your 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.720 own trade value down by saying you would hold out? 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:08.800 Baby babies, His trade value is already to the floor. Like, 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.280 if you think that Ben saying I'm gonna stay away 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.560 from the team is the reason you can't get a 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.960 hardenedest package for Ben, I've got some shit to sell you. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.800 I've got some You cannot be preaching that Ben should 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.720 have loyalty for you when he's like just agreeing with you. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.240 You guys have literally put your boot on his fucking 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.800 neck and as soon as he just puts his belly 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.880 up and he's like, yeah, I agree, you're just like no, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.160 like you should still want us. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.400 Yeah. No, It is a little bizarre just because I 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.920 mean it clearly, you know, reached a point where like 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.440 this just this relationship can't work anymore. Like it just 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.719 it got that bad, that toxic at the end of 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.280 that Atlanta series that I mean, we all knew it, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.160 Like I mean, I know we predicted this holdout situation, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.680 but it wasn't that hard to predict really. So now that, yeah, 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.640 there's pushback to and it's like, what what are we 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.240 trying to save here? Like, I don't get it. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.280 I have a boyfriend was with them. What he just 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.720 made me think of was when you said, it's a 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.680 relationship right, doesn't work for either sides. I had a 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.560 boyfriend three and a half years. We lived together. It 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.360 was rocky the whole way. He was constantly being like, 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.240 you should move out. I would get an apartment, then 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.920 he'd bring me back in and then here and there 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.360 and everywhere, and he's like, this isn't working. I don't 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.400 want to be with you. Anymore, and I would fight 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.880 for it, I would scrap for it. No, no, no, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.920 And then I just like, I think there was a 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.520 Drake song that came that was like playing and he 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.240 was like, I'm not saying, you know, like that one, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.120 and he's like, basically needs to move on. I was like, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:50.320 it clicked for me, dropping folks tonight As an aside, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.199 where are we at in the music universe where we're 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.160 legitimately making rankings not of the greatest albums of all time, 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.720 but the greatest album rollouts of all time? What the 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.480 we were like, Oh? Yeah, you know why I love 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.760 Drake because he rolls his albums out better than Kanye. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:08.640 That's just not true. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:09.920 That's just ridiculous. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.840 I think he does a pretty decent job at it. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.840 But I mean Kanye just I mean going back to 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.360 like graduation and we're so off the rails here, but. 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.880 So it doesn't matter. It does not fucking matter. So anyway, 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.480 so I tell him because of this Drake song, forget 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.680 what song it was, but I'm like, you're right, I'm 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.160 gonna move out. I'm gonna go. I have a place 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.560 to go now, it's all solid, just like I'm gonna 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.960 ship my boxes out, and then he was like, what 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.960 come on, Like it's been I'm moving to Japan, like 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.360 maybe we could move to Japan together. And I'm like, 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.600 are you insane? You've literally been trying to kick me out. 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.240 This has been the sixth time you've taken my fucking 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.319 keys and like told me to find another place to stay. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.360 And now I'm like, yeah, I have another place to stay. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.240 Now I'm gucci, here's your fucking keys. And then you're like, no, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:03.640 that's basically what it's like, dude, You're the reason I 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.120 know that I need to go. I just agree now, 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:12.040 I just agree. Now. So obviously, trade rumors have reached 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.080 a boiling point. And this is how I know Ben 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:21.360 Simmons is more polarizing than even JR Rder. The Warriors 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.840 have an entire front office that is completely in disarray. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.000 They are split, They are infighting over whether they want 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:36.000 Ben Simmons. Completely chaos going on. I mean there's already 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:36.920 chaos there. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.320 Like the package or just whether or not they want 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:40.280 him at all, whether they want. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.559 Him at all, They're like does he fit or does 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.839 he not? It's like you guys were clamoring for him. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:50.440 Now that things are sticky and messy. You're like, maybe 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:51.839 he's not worth it. I mean, maybe you have a 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.440 guy like Draymond Green who already fills that role, like 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.920 very integral part of this championship, DNA, and you can't 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.360 have them both on the team at the same time. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.559 I don't know. So this is what the front Athletics says. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.000 The Warrior's front office is currently split on whether or 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:11.080 not to accept a Ben Simmons trade offer from Philadelphia. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.960 There isn't and has never been a realistic one on 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.800 the table for them to discuss. Talks can't be considered 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:25.640 dead because they've never really been alive. Sources say, wow, 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:30.400 for a team that absolutely positively has to win right now, 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:35.760 for them to be like, ah, Ben, you'd rather go 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.920 with the two untested rookies, pandemic p second coming and 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:46.000 Andrew Wiggins, No meniscus can't catch a ball, deer in 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:51.800 headlights Andrew Wiseman, James James Wiseman, Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.160 I don't know what that was. I could you see 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.960 my eyes. I was just like, that's not right, That's 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.600 just not right. James Wiseman. And instead of taking Ben Simmons, 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.439 twenty four year old, defensive candidate of the Year, Defensive 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.120 Player of the Year candidate, multiple time All Star Listen, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.400 I'm not on team Ben ever, never ever has been. 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.760 But when we are here, this is officially crazy town. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.800 This is like you think Kaminga is going to get 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.560 you there now over Ben? 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.320 Yeah, I mean for their situation now, yeah, that doesn't 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:22.320 That makes a little sense to me. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.400 Here's so I know more things are bad bad. The 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:31.600 goddamn Sacramento Kings came out and preemptively said to Darryl Morey, Hey, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.520 I know you think you're gonna fleece us, because that's 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.079 what we do. That's not happening anymore. There's no Fox 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.320 for you, over Fox. Yeah, there's no Haliburton for you. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.320 There's no Harrison Barnes for you. What you will get 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:48.680 and you will like is Marvin Bagley and Buddy Healed. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.400 And that's the deal. Take it or leave it. Wow, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.959 that's not a good pack. That's a bad package. And 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.720 you still have no point guard to speak of. You 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.080 still have a big man that you really don't want 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.960 to pay now with Marvin Magley, who is a cancer. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.840 That's the deal. That's the Wish version. You thought you're 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.800 getting a hardened version and hard and trade, and you're 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.160 getting the Wish version of the hard and trade, like 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.520 the you know Wish, that little company that's like brocash shit, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.200 no picks, no players that you want. And this is 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.480 what Simmons says. It also means that things are in trouble. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.400 He is amenable. Oh, by the way, he said he 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.440 wants to be traded to one of the three California teams. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:35.520 There's four. There's four, Clippers, Lakers, Kings, Warriors. That's four. Anyway. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.960 He also let it be known that he's amenable to 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.760 Cleveland huh, which we joked about last episode, which would 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.160 be tremendous. Ben Simmons point guard of an all seven 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:51.360 foot or roster that could actually happen. I need it, Yeah, 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:52.440 I need it. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.120 I mean you're gonna suck, just go for it. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.760 Yeah, I need it, like I need that's a league 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.640 past team at that point, is it not? Like that 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.240 makes you fun and relevant in a very like oddities 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.040 kind of way, like a Barnum um Bailey circus, you know, 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.880 like find these like long trees that move about in 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.160 the wind. And now also Rich Paul has said, By 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.200 the way, I have another client. His name's Tyrese Maxi. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.120 He's gonna be involved in any Ben Simmons deal. He 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.760 wants fucking out too, and like does he want to? 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:22.440 He does? 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.240 You can't just say that, you can't just be like, oh, well, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.960 max he's also part of any Ben Simmons package, and like, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.600 why would MAXI want to be a part of a 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.640 Ben Simons package when he's just gonna play behind Ben 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:37.520 Simmons unless, by golly, Ben Simmons isn't a point guard unless, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.920 by golly, someone plays him at the four and Maxie 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:45.760 can play alongside of him. I am personally tantalized by 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.760 by all of it. The universe is undefeated. What do 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:50.560 you think. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.400 I mean just about Philly, about like this whole thing. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.840 I mean it's a mess. It's very clearly a mess. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.880 I there's a for Ben Simmons in the NBA, though, 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:07.560 like the obviously is. He's he's insanely good player. I mean, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.160 like his salary just like keep this place. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.000 From Toronto Raptors perfect place. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:16.400 Sure, Yeah, yeah, I mean that'd be a way better 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.680 package for them to get what Siakam and like Van 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:20.280 Vlee eat or. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:25.680 Skam and Malachai Flynn. Oh, go take Malachai Flynn. You 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.400 can keep MAXI. They can just keep Maxie. How about that? 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:33.600 How about just Ben for for Siakam? Straight up, it's 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.760 not bad trade. No, I think you do that trade. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.960 I think probably they want to keep Siakam if they 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.280 can keep them. Yeah, because I would prefer Siakam over 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.640 Ben Simmons. But hey, this for me personally could not 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.040 be going any better in this league. Let's move on. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:54.240 So there's been seventy five episodes, seventy six episodes, and 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.800 IT takes have been tepid. The takes have been hot. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:02.080 IT takes have been ice cold. We've had some good ones, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.439 we've had some bad ones. I thought it would be 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.399 fun for us to kind of go through them. Some 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.520 of the favorite, some of the worst ones, and some 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.639 of the best ones. Should we start with worst takes 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:13.520 are best takes? 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:15.560 Ooh ah, you pick? 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.840 Just take the worst takes first. They're shorter, you know, 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.000 the short, shorter list. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:22.320 Shorter list. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.560 I think I'm pretty sure, Yeah, I am all right. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.760 So I mean when you take the a, B's and 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.320 c's and you don't put them into separate numbers, and 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.800 it does appear that the worst takes are shorter the 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.040 Bucks the top one. The Bucks will never win a 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.040 championship as currently constructed. Eleven games in, I saw a 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:47.480 man walk around a screen and I said, then that's 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.480 how I know it's not gonna happen. If you're already 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.920 lacking energy eleven games in, I don't know how you're 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.040 gonna summon it. In eighty during the middle of the 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:01.719 Eastern Conference Finals, that appears. Although I listened to it 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.000 back and I listened to it and I'm like, yeah, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.160 they will never win. You're right, Trista, They're never ever 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.720 gonna win. And You're like, they won though they did, 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.159 They've done it. Yeah, so confidence is a hell of 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.639 a drug. Sons In four off of that little tree branch, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.639 that was really wrong. That was ours. We had, We 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:21.480 shared that together. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.679 Yeah, I mean I wasn't actually expecting them to go 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.800 for but. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.239 But sons in anything was an incorrect After after game two, 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:30.199 I felt like they were gonna win. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:30.680 Definitely. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.000 Giannis isn't Batman. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:35.879 Crickets. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.440 That was a bad one. That was the time. I 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.919 mean at times he wasn't though. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.400 Sure, I mean he's been playoff be honest before. But yeah, 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.240 he wasn't this year. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:50.640 Man, he was good Budenholzer pretty true still. Actually, yeah, 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.159 like I mean they extended him, they extended him. He 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.679 was gonna be fired, That's what I said. Uh, they 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.199 went up two oh, nets went up two oh. I 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.360 was in my uber drivers and he was like, they're 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:02.879 firing that guy, aren't they? And I was like one 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.000 hundred percent and that was a zero percent chance of happening. 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:12.480 Chris Middleton, Uh, not a good enough Robin way too inconsistent. Well, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.399 when you have a batman who becomes that level of 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.439 a batman, it really doesn't fucking matter. So I'm not 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.840 gonna take that l Golden State will win twenty two 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:26.639 games this year. Honestly, if Steph didn't turn into Batman, they. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.000 Probably would have you mean turn it. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.080 I mean like he went full sicko mode. He went 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.879 into like the best season he's ever had in history. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.600 He was putting up sixty. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.719 All the time that twenty fifteen sixteen year. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.400 But he was better than he was better this time. 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.760 I think. Anyway, that was a bad take. It's just 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.480 undeniably a bad take. Golden State to go to the 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.280 finals in the same season, in the same season, I've 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:59.000 predicted Nate McMillan is a fucking trash coat. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.560 That's the one I remember, Yeah, because when you said 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.440 at the time, I was like, eh, is he well? 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.840 I mean, listen, his caliber and record at that time 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.680 showed me he has a hard time getting out of 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.680 the first round. And listen, there was some bias there 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.600 Portland Trailblazers scars. When you've had a guy play or 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.040 coach for your favorite team, you remember all the things 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.360 that they do to fuck up. Like I remember Rudy Fernandez, 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:26.840 like nobody else remembers him. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:27.360 I loved him. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.680 I bet you did, but Blazers fans fucking hated that guy. Yeah, 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.000 so that was a bad I mean, he ended up 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.640 being like a Coach of the Year candidate. Nate McMillan 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.520 such a bad take, probably the worst take, honestly, Like, 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.760 that's the that's the one I feel the worst about 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.080 because it's like slander and he had some personal development 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:52.160 go on. Anyway. Heat dark Horse Yeah, yeah, I mean 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:59.600 Tis tisk Harden. Sources say Harden to be the first 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.720 one hardened to be a sixer. That was even before 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:07.280 this league podcast really began. Very close to happening, but 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:15.280 still wrong, still wrong. Game four nets were plus two nets, 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.479 money line was plus two seventy and I got on 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.200 TikTok and I said, put as much as you can 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.920 on it, and that was that was a bad bet. 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.200 Early on in the season, Colin sex Sexton and Darius 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:33.720 Garland sex Land, I said Cleveland could be good. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.280 It seemed fun, it seemed fun that first week. 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.040 Well, Cleveland was being good at that time, Nicks were 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:40.679 being good at that time, Atlanta was being good at 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.080 that time. And two of those three ended up actually 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.639 being good, and the other one was Cleveland. A dame 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:52.440 will never ever join a super team, it appears hasn't 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.720 happy yet. Yeah, but if it ends up happening, that 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.919 take will be wrong. So I'm preemptively saying it's not 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:04.040 a never ever. Nicks will continue to suck. They did 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.359