Speaker 1: To remove dallan deep speedlessst.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my hands
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. What is up? Dolphins?
Speaker 2: And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host,
Speaker 2: Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: the state of the franchise heading into the bye week.
Speaker 2: We'll have a little bit of a laugh at the
Speaker 2: New York Jets and kind of our own misery here
Speaker 2: as Dolphins fans from the Baptist Health Studios inside the
Speaker 2: Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey, daff.
Speaker 1: The Jets fired Robert Sala.
Speaker 2: Or rather Rogers fired him.
Speaker 1: The Jets. The Jets, I are the gift that keeps
Speaker 1: on giving. Wow.
Speaker 2: Who could have possibly seen this coming? Who could have
Speaker 2: forecasted that giving the quarterback more power than your head coach?
Speaker 2: Who could have guessed that having the quarterback hand select
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator who probably wouldn't even get a job
Speaker 2: at the power four level, a quarterback who insisted they
Speaker 2: bring an Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb, Donald Driver, Jordi Nelson,
Speaker 2: Greg Jennings, maybe even Antonio Freeman's looking for work. Who
Speaker 2: couldn't have seen this coming, Who thinks this isn't a
Speaker 2: good idea? Firing the coach that has a top ten
Speaker 2: defense in all major categories, who seeded power to the
Speaker 2: player who runs the offense, who created this entire structure,
Speaker 2: and all for the same number of points they scored
Speaker 2: through five games last year with Zach Wilson at quarterback,
Speaker 2: a bottom eight offense in EPA. Of course this will
Speaker 2: work going forward, right, further empowering the guy that got
Speaker 2: you in this position and elevating the guy that just
Speaker 2: stroked Errand's ego all hard knocks long last year. Who
Speaker 2: recalls that segment that's our quarterback. Guys, we're gonna be
Speaker 2: in games. Yeah, you're gonna be in games like when
Speaker 2: you scored nine points against the Denver Broncos when their
Speaker 2: quarterback literally could not grip the football to throw a
Speaker 2: forward pass and you lost that game, and you had
Speaker 2: a chance to penetrate the forty yard line to give
Speaker 2: your kicker a shot of a game winning kick inside
Speaker 2: fifty yards and three straight incompletions. The same guy who
Speaker 2: got the ball back against the Vikings in London against
Speaker 2: a defense that was tired, who had been out there
Speaker 2: all day long, and you throw a pick on third
Speaker 2: down in the red zone.
Speaker 1: That guy.
Speaker 2: What's really beautiful about this is the Jets are gonna
Speaker 2: go like seven to ten. They're not going to break
Speaker 2: the playoff drought, which is morembarrassing than ours. They're going
Speaker 2: to have a pick in the teens with no answer
Speaker 2: at quarterback when Rogers retires or hopefully he doesn't, and
Speaker 2: we do the whole song and dance again next year
Speaker 2: and pollute another future coaching staff that has to give
Speaker 2: in to Rogers every single need and keeps them in
Speaker 2: limbo for yet another year with all these one year
Speaker 2: deals for Tyron Smith and Mike Williams who haven't played well,
Speaker 2: while Garrett Wilson looks like I don't know an above
Speaker 2: average player right now, and Breis Hall looks like at
Speaker 2: best a third down running back. So they're toast and
Speaker 2: they're not going to dig out for years to come
Speaker 2: and we have to laugh because us. Well, let's pivot
Speaker 2: the tone here. Can I get some ominous tones? I'm
Speaker 2: literally asking my producer who is me? So I'll go
Speaker 2: through in post and put some ominous tones here, we're
Speaker 2: a fork in the road, boys and ladies, and quite frankly,
Speaker 2: I don't even really think that it's a fork, But
Speaker 2: I will choose to live in ignorance because it is
Speaker 2: bliss right for another few days or maybe even a
Speaker 2: week or so, because I am looking forward to that
Speaker 2: Monday night game within the Jets and the Bills, and
Speaker 2: just knowing that the Dolphins can't ruin my Sunday to
Speaker 2: prevent me from enjoying that game. And hopefully it's just
Speaker 2: a slog. And by the way, why is the Buffalo
Speaker 2: quarterback still playing? I don't think we can win a
Speaker 2: game against anybody else with what we saw on Sunday, right,
Speaker 2: like it was fun to suspend disbelief for three hours,
Speaker 2: like you do when you pull up to an m
Speaker 2: night Shyamalan joint. Only the twist here as we had
Speaker 2: snaps over the quarterbacks, head botched field goal snaps, block punts,
Speaker 2: wide receivers that were open and never seen or just
Speaker 2: flat out missed. And quite frankly, if the Patriots offense
Speaker 2: has anything going beyond some you know, drop passes and
Speaker 2: their own penalties that knocked them behind the chains over
Speaker 2: and over again, they probably score enough to beat us.
Speaker 2: The only thing that worked well in that game was
Speaker 2: the offensive line and the running backs.
Speaker 1: And defense was good.
Speaker 2: I'll give you that, but I don't credit defense first
Speaker 2: topping an offense that can't operate in today's NFL.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I do think this Dolphense defense has slown some decent
Speaker 2: attacks down. They were good against the Seahawks, they were
Speaker 2: good against the Jags for the most part. They stifled
Speaker 2: the Titans before things got crazy late. But you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, it's cool that the backs and offensive
Speaker 2: line played well because it could be something to build on,
Speaker 2: especially in today's NFL, where quarterbacks have like one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty five yards going into the fourth quarter every
Speaker 2: single game, and you know, no one's really thrown for
Speaker 2: that many yards except for a few pop up performances
Speaker 2: here and there. But unless it gets a lot, lot, lot, lot, lot.
Speaker 1: Lot lot better, we ain't gonna beat Indy.
Speaker 2: I would go as far as to say the only
Speaker 2: operations that performance if you copy and paste it, which
Speaker 2: is not how this league works.
Speaker 1: So I get that.
Speaker 2: But if you copy and paste that performance, I think
Speaker 2: you beat the Patriots. You know, by surviving a third
Speaker 2: down or a second down touchdown that was only out
Speaker 2: by an inch.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Raiders.
Speaker 2: I think O'Connell's probably given a downgrade from Minshew. Maybe
Speaker 2: the Giants, I don't know. They beat the Seahawks without
Speaker 2: neighbors on Sunday and their defense has been pretty good.
Speaker 2: The Panthers, that's probably it, right, That's probably who you're
Speaker 2: gonna beat with that performance. Now, if there's one modicum
Speaker 2: of hope, it's that it was better than the Titans game.
Speaker 2: But they sure as hell couldn't have been any worse.
Speaker 2: And the bye week, with some of the run game
Speaker 2: stuff they uncovered, that will give me a wee bit
Speaker 2: of hope. But I do not expect them to go
Speaker 2: into India and win that game. And that makes you
Speaker 2: two and four, with one bastion of hope remaining the
Speaker 2: return of quarterback one, the return of the guy that
Speaker 2: makes this entire offense go from a thirty point per
Speaker 2: game operation down to twelve points per game. And now
Speaker 2: you have a must win game against Arizona, who has
Speaker 2: their own quarterback who's an absolute baller. So I would
Speaker 2: never you know, maybe last year, but not this year.
Speaker 2: I'm not making that an automatic victory. I do think
Speaker 2: you can run the ball on the Cardinal, so I
Speaker 2: think the Dolphins should if they have two in that game,
Speaker 2: score a bunch of points. But who the hell knows.
Speaker 2: You probably need to find a way to beat Buffalo.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen, because when has it ever happened? Right?
Speaker 2: The Rams will get Pooka back and Coops back Cooper
Speaker 2: Cup like calling people who named Cooper Coops back in time.
Speaker 1: For that game. Most likely? Can we beat Matt Stafford
Speaker 1: on the road in primetime? I don't know.
Speaker 2: And it's the Raiders and the Patriots. Those should be
Speaker 2: walks in the park. So going into Thanksgiving, let's say
Speaker 2: you do beat the Rams and the Cardinals at six
Speaker 2: and five best case, maybe five and six maybe, But
Speaker 2: then the schedule doesn't look nearly as daunting after that.
Speaker 2: I don't think we would win that Packer game. You know, hell,
Speaker 2: I had us losing before I thought when I thought
Speaker 2: we were a juggernaut. I had That was a road
Speaker 2: game on a short week in primetime against a really
Speaker 2: good football team, what could be inclement weather. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: pick the dophense win that game, even if they were
Speaker 2: at their best right now, but then two against the
Speaker 2: Jets in a game with the Browns.
Speaker 1: Those are very winnable games.
Speaker 2: Justitsers get it figured out by then, probably, and the
Speaker 2: Texans look really good. So and all of this is
Speaker 2: under the assumption that to what comes back and plays
Speaker 2: the whole year, right, which is at best a coin
Speaker 2: flip proposition. So just parsing through it all, give me
Speaker 2: the win at Cleveland, and I'll just take two of
Speaker 2: the remaining four, probably both against the Jets, and not
Speaker 2: pick a win over the Texans or Niners. So that
Speaker 2: would give you nine to eight, and the way the
Speaker 2: AFC is going, I think gives you a shot. So
Speaker 2: a seventh seed playing the two seeded Ravens or Chiefs
Speaker 2: at home, maybe Buffalo, do you think when in those
Speaker 2: environments right now? So another wild card blowout, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: it's a little bit closer. And picking in the twentieth
Speaker 2: twenty first, twenty second slot of the draft. Good morning, everybody,
Speaker 2: It's Groundhog's Day once again. So that's kind of how
Speaker 2: I view the rest of the year, and it has
Speaker 2: me thinking, you know, bigger picture, and I was sort
Speaker 2: of thinking about this, and you know, these types of
Speaker 2: performances and stretches for your football team, especially when you
Speaker 2: have expectations. At least for me, it makes me reflect
Speaker 2: a lot, and I was thinking about this, what was
Speaker 2: the peak moment of this build? Because if it goes
Speaker 2: the way it's going and again it can shift course
Speaker 2: like a hurricane. Right by the way, everyone stays safe
Speaker 2: out there. I'm taping this on Tuesday for a Wednesday release,
Speaker 2: and Hurricane Milton just looks like an absolute terror. Thinking
Speaker 2: about all the folks on the Gulf Coast, thinking about
Speaker 2: folks here in South Florida in case things change, thinking
Speaker 2: about folks in the Panhandle. Everyone be safe out there.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we get some aid in those areas and those
Speaker 2: cities can rebound because it's oh gosh, and there's another
Speaker 2: one after that too, right, Like my goodness, man, scary
Speaker 2: scary stuff. Those ocean waters they are heating up, and
Speaker 2: this stuff probably going to be the norm from now on.
Speaker 2: So that's what it is Geez Doom and Gloom podcast, Travis.
Speaker 2: But it has me reflecting about what was the peak
Speaker 2: moment of this build, because I mean, it started with
Speaker 2: a bunch of draft picks and a quarterback, but you
Speaker 2: hit on You did it on the quarterback and a
Speaker 2: bunch of free agent dollars. Those free agent dollars didn't
Speaker 2: really work out. A lot of the draft picks did
Speaker 2: work out to Austin. You know, even the guys that
Speaker 2: we lost, Brandon Jones and ray Kwon Davis were middling
Speaker 2: players that were, you know, good enough to be an
Speaker 2: NFL rosters. You had plenty of hits like Andrew van
Speaker 2: Ginkel and Christian Wilkins, who both obviously departed. You had,
Speaker 2: you know, Javon holland Jalen Waddle. Those were all big hits.
Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips were but was a big hit. You've had
Speaker 2: lots of hits in the draft, but for the most part,
Speaker 2: you built this roster that was really good. Had the
Speaker 2: eighth or had eight players on the top one hundred,
Speaker 2: the second most in the league this year, which I
Speaker 2: don't think is a good measurement of where players stand
Speaker 2: because Jordan Poyer was in that list, and I don't
Speaker 2: think Jordan Poyer has been even starting caliber this whole year.
Speaker 1: But I digress.
Speaker 2: The roster was very good, very talented, and has plenty
Speaker 2: of guys that are some of the best at their position.
Speaker 1: In the entire National Football League. But it feels like.
Speaker 2: It's transitioning towards either a heavy pivot or just flat
Speaker 2: out the end. And we'll see that the next how
Speaker 2: many games we got left, the next twelve games will
Speaker 2: dictate that, no doubt. I mean, that's you know, Kyle
Speaker 2: always mentions this on his podcast and to me, is
Speaker 2: like that, there's so much more information to come. And like,
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this too, because the whole concept
Speaker 2: of how things could turn around with Tua, Like I
Speaker 2: was thinking about Jordan Love and the Packers, who, by
Speaker 2: the way, they won their first game with Jordan Love
Speaker 2: at quarterback this year on Sunday against the Rams. He
Speaker 2: looked like trash in that Eagles game, and I hate
Speaker 2: using that phrase. He looked bad against the Eagles in
Speaker 2: week one. He gets hurt in that game. Malik Willis
Speaker 2: wins games two and three, he comes back in the
Speaker 2: fourth game they get beat. He looks really bad again.
Speaker 2: And then he plays against the Rams and he looks
Speaker 2: bad again and throws one of the most out egregious
Speaker 2: picks you've seen. And sure enough, through the first five
Speaker 2: weeks the season, Jordan Love doesn't look good and that
Speaker 2: was what happened last year. In fact, that offense was
Speaker 2: so terrible last year. I remember watching that Chiefs Monday
Speaker 2: night game and just like hanging on every single throw
Speaker 2: because at that point in the season, the Packers offense
Speaker 2: was so bad that you needed to capitalize on every
Speaker 2: single opportunity. And Jordan Love played like a hell of
Speaker 2: a game and got them that win. And that was
Speaker 2: when things began to shift. And the reason I was
Speaker 2: rooting against the Chiefs is because, hey, we weren't play
Speaker 2: for the first seed last year. Remember that that was fun.
Speaker 2: But my whole point is the perception of that team
Speaker 2: was that they were they had the wrong guy, they
Speaker 2: made the wrong pick, they made the wrong transition, they
Speaker 2: gave the wrong guy the contract extension through the first
Speaker 2: seven or eight weeks of the season, and then he
Speaker 2: went on and did what he did. My whole point
Speaker 2: is every game is new information, and you should not
Speaker 2: jump to conclusions based upon you know, a few game stretch.
Speaker 2: You can have your ideas of where it might go
Speaker 2: and forecast it, but to think of that as like
Speaker 2: this concrete, you know, unwavering concept, that is a flaw
Speaker 2: in and of itself in this league because that's just
Speaker 2: not how it works. So what I'm saying is the
Speaker 2: Dolphins could conceivably get to a back and the offense
Speaker 2: could click.
Speaker 1: It could happen. It definitely could happen.
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't, then we're talking about the end
Speaker 2: of the build, which I had so much belief and
Speaker 2: so much faith in. And you know, I get a
Speaker 2: lot of comments about what goes into my Twitter and
Speaker 2: to the show, and there are certain premeters I have
Speaker 2: to follow, but as you guys listen to the podcast
Speaker 2: every day. No, this podcast is my stomping grounds, and
Speaker 2: it wasn't always that way. You know. I think those
Speaker 2: twenty twenty podcasts were trash my first year here because
Speaker 2: we had, you know, someone calling the shots that wanted
Speaker 2: to play press conference audio for all those podcasts. I
Speaker 2: hated those shows, and I think it cost me a
Speaker 2: big chunk of my audience and probably a lot of
Speaker 2: my credibility, which sucks, definitely sucks. But the podcast is mine, baby.
Speaker 2: I do what I want here, and I just keep
Speaker 2: thinking about where it went wrong or where things got
Speaker 2: off the trail or off the track, and obviously your
Speaker 2: quarterback getting hurt, that's that's where things kind of pivoted
Speaker 2: because this team was ready to win again this year
Speaker 2: and even into next year, but the quarterback got hurt.
Speaker 2: So if that's the case, if the quarterback can't come
Speaker 2: back from you know, another series head injury, then I
Speaker 2: do think that's the end of the build and you
Speaker 2: have to pivot out of it. And it had me
Speaker 2: thinking about what was the peak was the moment where
Speaker 2: it was like, man, we've arrived, Like this is it,
Speaker 2: this is our time. I want to go ahead and
Speaker 2: take our first break right there. Come back on the
Speaker 2: other side and discuss that with you here in the
Speaker 2: Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
Speaker 2: by AutoNation. The Cynic is the title of that opening segment.
Speaker 2: Now we're going to be reflective and think back to
Speaker 2: fonder times, to better times. Because I teased it on
Speaker 2: the other side of the show, what was the peak
Speaker 2: moment of this build that we were so I was
Speaker 2: so believing and confident in and then it worked and
Speaker 2: if you can, if you're gonna go back over the
Speaker 2: last two years, I'm like, no, it didn't work. It
Speaker 2: was a design flow from the beginning. No, dude, Like,
Speaker 2: they won a bunch of games, when they had their quarterback.
Speaker 2: The downfall was the quarterback got injured a bunch. It's
Speaker 2: been the issue the last three years, well not last year.
Speaker 2: Last year was injuries otherwise and you kind of fell
Speaker 2: apart late in the year. But that's that could that
Speaker 2: could easily be a one off. Twenty twenty two, you
Speaker 2: end of the year without your quarterback. This year, you
Speaker 2: begin the year without your quarterback, and that's look at
Speaker 2: the results. You can't do anything. So if it is
Speaker 2: the end of the build and that part was successful,
Speaker 2: what was the peak moment of it?
Speaker 1: Was it the Ravens comeback?
Speaker 2: Because I remember driving to the podcast studio after doing
Speaker 2: two hours of radio and I could not stop screaming
Speaker 2: and excitement. The Bills win the next week, that was
Speaker 2: certainly up there. I remember being in the home radio
Speaker 2: booth getting ready to do postgame with Seth and Juice,
Speaker 2: say we beat Buffalo, We beat Buffalo, We beat Buffalo.
Speaker 2: I just kept saying that over and over again. I
Speaker 2: was so pumped up. Maybe it was Black Friday last year,
Speaker 2: maybe that second Jets win, maybe it was that Cowboys win,
Speaker 2: maybe even the Commander's blow up, because at that point
Speaker 2: of the year, it was like, oh, ten and four,
Speaker 2: eleven and four, and we are cooking offensively.
Speaker 1: This is gonna work.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to give you the exact moment that
Speaker 2: was the peak of this build for me. And you
Speaker 2: could even say it was a Niners touchdown to open
Speaker 2: the game back in twenty twenty two, but I won't.
Speaker 2: I think it was when you were at Baltimore, you
Speaker 2: were eleven and four, you scored a touchdown on your
Speaker 2: opening drive to go up seven zero, And I again,
Speaker 2: this is why these moments are core to me.
Speaker 1: I remember them.
Speaker 2: I was at the iHeart Studios watching with Seth and
Speaker 2: OJ gonna do postgame show afterwards, getting ready to celebrate
Speaker 2: having the number one seed going into Week eighteen against
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, and I remember going back to the restroom
Speaker 2: on the other side of the building and being like,
Speaker 2: this is it.
Speaker 1: Dude, Like we did it.
Speaker 2: We drove the field, we score a touchdown, We're gonna
Speaker 2: get a stop, we're gonna go put the ball on
Speaker 2: these like we're gonna beat the Ravens and we're gonna
Speaker 2: get this one seed and we're gonna do everything we've
Speaker 2: dreamed of since we were children and haven't seen since
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: Go to AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it since I was five years old,
Speaker 2: and I didn't really I didn't know. I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't see that I was five. But that's not what happened.
Speaker 2: But the peak moment was after that touchdown and we
Speaker 2: got an offensive pass interference on the Ravens and it
Speaker 2: was like third and seventeen. I was third in a mile,
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly how long it was. And they
Speaker 2: threw a swing pass to Justice Hill and he broke
Speaker 2: like four tackles and move the chains and the Ravens
Speaker 2: scored a few plays later. It was nothing playing for
Speaker 2: the one seed on the road in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: They're about to give up on the drive and punt
Speaker 2: the ball back to you, and the Dolphins went right
Speaker 2: down the field again and put the ball back in
Speaker 2: the end zone, but Tyreek Hill dropped it. So like,
Speaker 2: if that same thing happens and you're throwing into the
Speaker 2: end zone to go up by two touchdowns in the
Speaker 2: first quarter on the road against a team that you're
Speaker 2: going to remove the crowd from the game, that was
Speaker 2: the peak moment right before that Justice Hill first down
Speaker 2: at eleven and four, up seven to nothing on the
Speaker 2: road in Baltimore, getting the ball back after your offense
Speaker 2: went right down the field. That was the peak moment
Speaker 2: of the rebuild. I am just tired, boss, I'm just tired.
Speaker 2: Seth dropped a couple of lines on me the last
Speaker 2: week on the postgame show. The first one was a
Speaker 2: cynic is just a passionate person that's tired of disappointment man.
Speaker 2: And then this week he dropped this one on me,
Speaker 2: Hope is in reality the worst of all evils because
Speaker 2: it prolongs the torment of man. Man. Those ones both stick.
Speaker 2: You know what it reminds me of. So my son
Speaker 2: is right now, like currently cutting his molars or whatever
Speaker 2: the hell you call baby molars? Is that? I don't know,
Speaker 2: is that a thing? But he's just been on what
Speaker 2: I call screamfest twenty twenty four for the last three days.
Speaker 2: I think I've slept five hours over the last three days.
Speaker 2: He's restless. He doesn't want me to hold him, just
Speaker 2: his mom can comfort him. And even then, if she's
Speaker 2: not holding him, he's screaming. So everybody in the household
Speaker 2: is hanging by a damn thread. And now today I
Speaker 2: have to go tell Caroline that she can't go through
Speaker 2: the Princess Castle. What she has been counting down for
Speaker 2: the last fourteen days. So I'm gonna cry hard. So
Speaker 2: I tried to help my wife get a little bit
Speaker 2: of sleep last night and turned on Blaze and the
Speaker 2: Monster Machines at midnight on the couch downstairs to give
Speaker 2: her and my daughter some solidarity upstairs. And of course
Speaker 2: cam is just happy to sit and watch. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I guess we're not that bothered by the teeth everybody.
Speaker 2: But every five minutes, because I am sleep deprived, I
Speaker 2: keep falling asleep every five minutes. He would jar me
Speaker 2: awake by either making a noise or just smacking me
Speaker 2: on the head, because hey, two year olds are a holes.
Speaker 2: And I've never really thought about this because I'm not
Speaker 2: a psychopath, but if I were, if someone like mess
Speaker 2: with my kids and I was gonna pull a law
Speaker 2: abiding citizen and torture human being, that's what I would do.
Speaker 1: Sleep deprivation.
Speaker 2: I'm giving them sleeping aids, some Melowtonin, some Nike will,
Speaker 2: some THHC and CBD, everything that promotes sleep. I'd let
Speaker 2: them taste that sweet, sweet satisfaction of giving into sleep
Speaker 2: to going into rem cycle for two minutes and then
Speaker 2: I'm waking up because brother, my god, I'm convinced that
Speaker 2: nothing in this world is worse than being sleep deprived,
Speaker 2: falling asleep and being woken up quickly after that.
Speaker 1: It is pure torture.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what the last twenty five years
Speaker 2: of Dolphins fan has felt like. And maybe these last
Speaker 2: five years gave us like fifteen men so sleep at
Speaker 2: a time instead of the two minutes, because it's like
Speaker 2: more refreshing to get more rest. But then the wake
Speaker 2: up is even more brutal because you got to experience sleep,
Speaker 2: you got to experience successful football and a team that
Speaker 2: could win games and win double digit games and be
Speaker 2: a top the division and looking for one seeds.
Speaker 1: But then you got woken up and it sucked even more.
Speaker 1: Wo what a time? What a podcast?
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take one more break, make this
Speaker 2: a short show because I feel like I'm probably losing
Speaker 2: some of my diehards here, but whatever, take a last
Speaker 2: break right there, come back and I want to do
Speaker 2: more on this entire topic and idea that's the next
Speaker 2: traft Time podcast. Your host, Travis Wingfield brought to you
Speaker 2: by Auto Nation. So to me, I've just been reflecting.
Speaker 2: I've been watching football. I actually been enjoying football. I
Speaker 2: couldn't enjoy the Sunday Slate after Week two because of
Speaker 2: what happened to Tua and losing to Buffalo. Couldn't really
Speaker 2: get into Week three because like I knew it was coming,
Speaker 2: and then the Week four kind of got over it,
Speaker 2: and then the Titans game happened, and I'm like, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: this is just is what it is. Let's go at
Speaker 2: least enjoy the rest of the season because it'll be
Speaker 2: a long time before we got at football back again,
Speaker 2: and you'll miss it for nine months.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and enjoy this.
Speaker 2: And it got me thinking about how the Dolphins and
Speaker 2: being a fan of a team impacts my ability to
Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of the NFL. And I want to
Speaker 2: mention three levels of enjoyment of the league as a
Speaker 2: fan who enjoys football. And I'm one of the peerst
Speaker 2: who before I got into the league, I loved, you know,
Speaker 2: taking action on games. We don't do that anymore. It's
Speaker 2: against the rules, and I don't want to because I've
Speaker 2: been there, done that. It's a dead end that I'm
Speaker 2: sure some of you folks are learning now. That's a
Speaker 2: dead end where you lose money and it ends up
Speaker 2: making you enjoy the game less. So I got out
Speaker 2: of fantasy, got out of that. Can't do that anyways,
Speaker 2: And I just enjoy football because I like football. I
Speaker 2: don't need action to enjoy the export that I love.
Speaker 2: So have me thinking about different ways of enjoyment for
Speaker 2: watching the game. And I'm gonna start baseline level. You're
Speaker 2: gonna think this is peak, but it does get better
Speaker 2: than this. This is when the Dolphins are not good,
Speaker 2: but you've accepted it. Me right now, this is where
Speaker 2: you're free and clear to enjoy the rest of the league.
Speaker 2: The other storylines don't impact your narratives. You don't really
Speaker 2: care about it. And again, I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people use fantasy and gambling, but I'm still a purist
Speaker 2: today at least. Like I said, I've been there and
Speaker 2: done that, and it was a decade ago when I
Speaker 2: did that. But I can really enjoy the rest of
Speaker 2: the games when I'm just not worried about who needs
Speaker 2: to lose to help the Dolphins or which narratives I
Speaker 2: hope play out. That's the second best level of watching
Speaker 2: the rest of the NFL outside of the Dolphins. Let's
Speaker 2: take the dark path next, shall we. This is when
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are good and you're like, hey, I like it.
Speaker 2: When the Dolphins are good, me too, but have stumbled recently,
Speaker 2: like late last year watching the rest of the league
Speaker 2: when the Bills game happened, I didn't enjoy that. Or
Speaker 2: the three straight losses in December twenty twenty two. The
Speaker 2: Buffalo loss this year and the Green Bay loss in
Speaker 2: twenty two, for instance, those are different. The losing is
Speaker 2: one thing, but when your quarterback suffers a brain injury,
Speaker 2: that's a different depth, almost not comprehendible by human thought,
Speaker 2: much less the football fan, which we're probablyut the smarts
Speaker 2: people in world. Right, it's rock bottom. But the more
Speaker 2: common aspect is when we're good but suffer bad losses
Speaker 2: or a bad loss or multiple bad losses, and everyone's
Speaker 2: piling on the same old Dolphins. The content you take
Speaker 2: him sucks. That's that's my least favorite part of watching
Speaker 2: Dolphins football now, I tease Valhalla. That's when the Fins
Speaker 2: are good and winning in the current that is perfect,
Speaker 2: like the three and zero starts being number one in
Speaker 2: power rankings, a potential Super Bowl pick for some folks.
Speaker 2: That's a drug that I would mainline every single day
Speaker 2: if I could. Right now, I've transitioned into baseline. That
Speaker 2: Buffalo game got me. It knocked me out. I knew
Speaker 2: he'd be back from the others, Tua that is, but
Speaker 2: this one was jarring.
Speaker 1: It brought a sense of.
Speaker 2: Like, is this it for him, for this team, for
Speaker 2: this operation, for everything in terms of, you know, tearing
Speaker 2: it down and going in a different direction. I think
Speaker 2: it was the routine nature of the hit and how
Speaker 2: easily it did him in Like I don't know, guys,
Speaker 2: it just it feels different this time, doesn't it. But
Speaker 2: then what do we do? Do you come back into
Speaker 2: the season with Tua and no other plan next year?
Speaker 2: And the other plan would be, like you know what,
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew Gokug's, someone like Jamis Winston. I just that
Speaker 2: would barely inspire a more confidence than what I have
Speaker 2: right now. The one thing that would give me a
Speaker 2: real confidence is one of the three guys I have
Speaker 2: gravitateds towards in this draft class. And maybe we we
Speaker 2: don't get that nine and eight Mark and maybe we
Speaker 2: have to watch the rest of you know, the four
Speaker 2: and thirteen season play out. The way it looks, maybe
Speaker 2: it's two games of Tua and he gets those two
Speaker 2: wins and he gets who knows. Like, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of information left to happen, and in the brutality that
Speaker 2: is this business, we talk about what might be next,
Speaker 2: right the quarterback position, And I had this thing planned
Speaker 2: that I was going to do ahead of last week,
Speaker 2: but it's probably more apt if we had lost that game.
Speaker 2: So maybe I'll table that for a future discussion down
Speaker 2: the road when we do get more information. But between
Speaker 2: this being the last year of you know, all the
Speaker 2: COVID kids who have played you know, four or five
Speaker 2: six years of college football, all these red shirt seasons,
Speaker 2: all these extra reps, I think that you are getting
Speaker 2: a crop of players who got a lot of development
Speaker 2: in the college game before that clock starts on that
Speaker 2: rookie contract. And if the Dolphins pick high enough, and
Speaker 2: if the quarterback comes back and gets hurt again, then
Speaker 2: I think you have to go in that direction. And
Speaker 2: I think there's a real upshot for how quickly things
Speaker 2: could turn, because you might be able to get Jayden
Speaker 2: Daniels is a rarefied air.
Speaker 1: But maybe CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud, maybe you know, Andrew Luck, maybe you do find
Speaker 2: that rookie quarterback who hits right away and you get
Speaker 2: five years, well more relistically four of cheap quarterback compensation,
Speaker 2: high level production, which puts you right back in a
Speaker 2: championship like window, right. And I had this thing planned out,
Speaker 2: you know, to talk about this last week, and I
Speaker 2: went through and watched all the quarterbacks on tape, and
Speaker 2: I've been digging through these guys and daddy liking. And
Speaker 2: I watched that Buffalo game against Shoot, who did they
Speaker 2: play two weeks ago? Who they was do when they
Speaker 2: fill a three to one? It wasn't wasn't the Houston game.
Speaker 2: Let's do some live live lookings here Buffalo Bills twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, dude, ude, not the Buffalo Bulls. The Buffalo Bills. Google,
Speaker 2: Oh the Ravens, duh h. And watching Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 2: Derek Henry run all over those guys, some of you
Speaker 2: guys that were like on the podcast here and knew it,
Speaker 2: like I love when that happens, Like I know the answer,
Speaker 2: you stupid podcaster, But watching that, like Buffalo plays that
Speaker 2: permanent nickel defense. Right, It's weird that a team that
Speaker 2: just runs the football went right down their throats and
Speaker 2: a quarterback involvement in the running game. It's got me
Speaker 2: really thinking about Jaln Milroe, the Alabama quarterback who I
Speaker 2: watched his Vanderbilt tape and they lost the game and
Speaker 2: it was Vanderbilt. But this dude senses post nap rotation.
Speaker 2: He rips it on time and in rhythm. I think
Speaker 2: he could work on his layer and touch football, a
Speaker 2: touch passing of the football, but his electricity, his escapability,
Speaker 2: his design run ability with Jalen Wright and Devon a
Speaker 2: chan like, I think that might be your solution, dude,
Speaker 2: if that's where you have to go, and that's beyond
Speaker 2: shoulder Sanders, who I think has amazing pocket feel and
Speaker 2: presence and just an overall concept of how you know
Speaker 2: the gaps and the defense are where they are and
Speaker 2: how the offensive concepts can attack that. I think he's
Speaker 2: so polished in that area and can throw the football
Speaker 2: to any part of the field from any platform and
Speaker 2: has a really good overall physical skill set. I think
Speaker 2: he's going to be a great quarterback if if all
Speaker 2: the other stuff gets taken care of which terrifies me.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking of course about his father. His confidence
Speaker 2: has braggadociousness like that stuff terrifies me. Now, I think
Speaker 2: that means he has the dog in him and what
Speaker 2: you don't have. And the next guy, my favorite quarterback
Speaker 2: in the entire class, has all that stuff minus the
Speaker 2: distractions is cam Ward and I think that he has
Speaker 2: just flat out that dude, and I want that dude
Speaker 2: a quarterback if we have to move. So I think
Speaker 2: his ability to create and also play on structure. I
Speaker 2: know people out there said, this is an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 2: You don't know what the hell you're talking about. That
Speaker 2: guy plays from structure really really well. He has to
Speaker 2: cut down the boneheaded plays, which that's what they said
Speaker 2: about Josh Allen too, And I think that's the kind
Speaker 2: of quarterback you have in cam Ward. And then also
Speaker 2: I think Garrett Nestmeyer has a really good chance to
Speaker 2: be a really good quarterback. But he would be more
Speaker 2: of what you're used to right now with the anticipation
Speaker 2: accuracy stuff and a little.
Speaker 1: Bit better athletic ability.
Speaker 2: But to repeat that and to expect to get the
Speaker 2: same level the two is at, which is master PhD masterclass.
Speaker 1: I don't expect you to get to that point.
Speaker 2: Maybe it happens, but that's how I view the quarterback
Speaker 2: class right now, and just flat out do not see
Speaker 2: it with Carson Beck. I know Kyle loves him, I don't.
Speaker 2: I do not like Carson Beck. All right, let's not
Speaker 2: make this a quarterback prospect thing. Let's actually yeah, let's
Speaker 2: go ahead and get out of here. We'll do it
Speaker 2: again down the road when quarterback one comes out, and
Speaker 2: see what that looks like. Well, table until then, but
Speaker 2: I just thought that those are some apt thoughts and discussions,
Speaker 2: and this podcast was kind of fun to do. I
Speaker 2: hope you guys enjoy listening to it. So we have
Speaker 2: this show for you today. We'll take Tomorrow Thursday off,
Speaker 2: and then I have the interview with Alec Ingle that's
Speaker 2: gonna be on Dolphins HQB, but I'll go ahead and
Speaker 2: run it on the podcast on Friday. Taking a few
Speaker 2: steps back, taking some days to enjoy the bye weekend,
Speaker 2: you guys, enjoy some time with your families, enjoy the football,
Speaker 2: stay safe from the hurricane. There, I get the sense
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna have to I know I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to break the heart of my little princess here tonight
Speaker 2: telling her that Disney World is off which and we
Speaker 2: don't have any other weekends the rest of the way
Speaker 2: until after the season to go back. So I shoot man,
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