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Speaker 1: The volume. This is the best of the Colin Coward Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Some great guests this week and it bring you all

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Speaker 1: the best moments. But first up the best of my

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Speaker 1: rants for the week. Nobody with a brain thinks the

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Speaker 1: NFL is dying. Two things make the NFL unstoppable. Scarcity

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Speaker 1: meaning fewer games and we bet it. Soccer in Europe

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Speaker 1: Europe's national pastime. But at last three to five days,

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Speaker 1: stop worrying about the NFL's ratings. They've got an eleven

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Speaker 1: year contract that starts in two years. Any sport in

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Speaker 1: any country that has fewer games that people bet will

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Speaker 1: be the most popular sport. I had picked the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Colts to win one of the worst divisions in sports,

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Speaker 1: probably the second weakest, although you can certainly make an

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Speaker 1: argument today it's the weakest the AFC South. The Jags

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Speaker 1: are rebuilding, Houston could arguably be the worst team in

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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, I'm a sell on Tennessee Chad Melman and

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Speaker 1: I talk last week. They're over unders about nine and

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Speaker 1: a half. I see him as an absolute under I

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Speaker 1: think Ryan Tannehill. Losing Arthur Smith as an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: is a big setback. And then you have the Colts,

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Speaker 1: who have largely done everything right except the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's a pretty conservative general manager, and he decided

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Speaker 1: to finally go for it. He's used great discretion in

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Speaker 1: his spending, but said, you can do everything right in

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Speaker 1: this league, but if you don't get the quarterback right,

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Speaker 1: at best, you're a playoff team. It's very much Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid and Brett Veach before Patrick Mahomes, great GM, great coach.

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Speaker 1: You're just a one and done playoff team until you

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Speaker 1: got the quarter right. So they go spend money on

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I totally support the move. It to go

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Speaker 1: for it move in that division went in terms of

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Speaker 1: and they gave up virtually nothing to get him from Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: so they really, if you will, won the deal. They

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Speaker 1: won the trade with the Eagles, and then Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: first week at camp gets hurt. And here's the real dilemma.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a backup quarterback. So they drafted two

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Speaker 1: years ago, two drafts ago, Jacob eaton out of Washington.

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Speaker 1: So I watched Jacob Eason a ton because he went

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Speaker 1: I try to watch six seven Husky games a year.

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Speaker 1: He looks the part, big strong kid, big powerful arm.

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Speaker 1: The issue with him is cognitive. He struggles off script.

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Speaker 1: He struggles after half. When Chris Peterson had him first

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Speaker 1: He really struggled, and he's not a starter in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, absolutely brutal luck for the Colts. They

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Speaker 1: simply right now do not have a quarterback in camp

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Speaker 1: that I think can win a game in the first

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Speaker 1: five weeks. So it's the ultimate dilemma. I seriously wonder

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Speaker 1: unless they can sign a capable backup, if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: torpedo the season. The average age of an NBA player

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Speaker 1: thirty three. So they add Carmelo Anthony to Dwight Howard,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Ariza just turned thirty six. They were the oldest

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Speaker 1: hear about Kendrick Nunn. The Warriors had him in their

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Speaker 1: Bob Myers and pat Riley are two the smartest guys

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Speaker 1: He's highly erratic. Pat Riley and Spoelstra let Kendrick Nunn go.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about Malik Monk. You really

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Speaker 1: but the Milwaukee Bucks last year, we're twenty seven and

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Speaker 1: it's a weird roster. It's an antique store. I'll watch,

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Speaker 1: in Ike Taylor, who is as honest as any stealer ever.

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Speaker 1: Twelve years, two super Bowl rings, Absolutely no bullshit. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've been critical of Ben because I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: that a fair criticism that sometimes Ben likes to it's

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Speaker 1: being very competitive. Now, to get back on what you

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Speaker 1: just said, I'm gonna leave it like this. You said it, well,

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Speaker 1: feel as a stealer you intimidated offensive player? Colin? You couldn't, Coline,

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Speaker 1: So that's exactly what our personality was. But then we

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Speaker 1: sure if he can do anything else. And number two,

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Speaker 1: in your years of scouting, when the best GMS in

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Speaker 1: the league that I know had huge reservations about Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Now Tlesco liked him, but you know there were a list.

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Speaker 1: I've talked him multiple times, and without getting into these

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Speaker 1: conversations and giving away what he said, they were, you

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Speaker 1: were almost Joel Klatt similarly. They were almost all about boy,

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Speaker 1: he just doesn't let rip well, he can be hesitant.

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Speaker 1: Now Clap's like, oh my god, I whipped. That's not

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Speaker 1: the issue. Well, I think I think if you look back,

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Speaker 1: one thing that I don't think was talked about enough

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Speaker 1: because historically, definitely since I've been watching the Ducks, when

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Speaker 1: Ballotti took over and then hip, they had a lot

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Speaker 1: of offensive skill guys who were elite. Justin did not

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Speaker 1: play with NFL offensive skill guys, the wide receivers not

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Speaker 1: getting drafted. Probably the worst set of running backs in Oregans,

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Speaker 1: you know, since they've become a legit program. So he

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Speaker 1: was playing with guys that really should more like Nevada

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Speaker 1: players than Oregon, you know, high end power five level talent.

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Speaker 1: So when you look back, you go, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of unfair to judge him. Not guys weren't getting

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Speaker 1: open he did. He wasn't playing with other NFL players.

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Speaker 1: His physical skill set is elite, right you said, not

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Speaker 1: just the size his arm, he's Josh Allen like. But

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Speaker 1: you know, his personality I think was another thing. Whether

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Speaker 1: it's fair or not. You go program quarterback marks Mariota

450
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Speaker 1: similar makeup, high character. People love him, but he's very

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Speaker 1: reserved and quiet, and people like, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work well. His talent, unlike Mariota, is in

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Speaker 1: a different stratosphere. I mean that throw that went viral

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Speaker 1: the other day, and listen to his training camp stuff,

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Speaker 1: but on the move to throw it like that and

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Speaker 1: hit the guy in stride. I mean that's that was

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00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: like far Van. I mean, that's that's his skill set.

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Speaker 1: Like I text Daniel Jeremiah, who was there. He's like

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Speaker 1: this kid, he looks awesome and he looked it just tramp,

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Speaker 1: but he has skill. Guys to LESCo is great at

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Speaker 1: finding random skill, you know, offensive talent. Keenan Allen is

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Speaker 1: an elite player. They always have good running. He's just

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Speaker 1: playing with high end talent Colin if that coach is good,

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Speaker 1: and you never know with a young coach. Brandon Staley

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Speaker 1: has only been the league for you know, five years.

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Speaker 1: He's also a coordinator, so he's got a lot on

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Speaker 1: the table. They should be competing to be a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Like I love the Colts, and I thought I was

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Speaker 1: high on them with Carson, but now it's like, could

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Speaker 1: you just sub the Chargers out for the Colts? You know,

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Speaker 1: It's like, couldn't they just be like a ten eleven

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Speaker 1: win team? The Chargers. I mean, they have a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: who is it crazy to think that if things go well,

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Speaker 1: he's in the MVP conversation. I mean, the quarterbacks never

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Speaker 1: mature faster than they do in this game, right, Lamar

476
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Speaker 1: won it year two. Why couldn't Herbert? He can throw it.

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Speaker 1: He's much more of an explosive thrower. He doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to run. He can throw forty touchdowns this year, right,

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Speaker 1: if they stay healthy with their offensive skill, guys, I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes we make too big a deal in the

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Speaker 1: scouting community. I think humans do just in general. When

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Speaker 1: now in football, you're paying a guy so much money

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Speaker 1: at a hop of a draft and a quarterback when

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Speaker 1: you're not assertive and loud. That turns people off, turns

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Speaker 1: coaches off, turns GM's off. But sometimes people just like

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Speaker 1: once you're around him, Clearly people just gravitate toward at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day too. When you have that

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Speaker 1: type talent, the receiver is gonna like you, the line's

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Speaker 1: gonna like to block for you, You're gonna win, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna make everyone money. You're good for business. So and

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Speaker 1: clearly I think that was a little overblown for him.

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Speaker 1: I even think Maryoda, if you look at it, like

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Speaker 1: I remember last year when you got to start with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, all the Titans were people like these guys,

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Speaker 1: they're liked just because they're not the loudest guy in

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Speaker 1: the room. That's not the most important thing all the time.

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Speaker 1: Bringing in my buddy Mike Silver, You've seen him for

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Speaker 1: years Sports Illustrated, Yahoo Pass it Down podcasts with his

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Speaker 1: daughter Natalie, been covering this stuff for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So teams always want to make their draft picks look

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Speaker 1: like their successes gms. Gms hate to bail on their picks.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna give sometimes to justify them. Yeah, you're right, yes.

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Speaker 1: So I remember Daniel Jones first camp with the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and there was a lot of skepticism about him as

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Speaker 1: a number six pick, and suddenly there were leaks from

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Speaker 1: the Giants camp SloMo videos of Daniel Jones making wonderful

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Speaker 1: throws and it was like nobody had video and it

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Speaker 1: was leaking out and I'm like, and it was SlowMo

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Speaker 1: and the throws were great. And I remember at the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'd been at Fox couple years and I

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Speaker 1: was talking to a producer there and I'm like, this

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Speaker 1: is so transparent and orchestrated because everybody is so down

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Speaker 1: on him, they're just leaking this stuff. So some of

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Speaker 1: the stuff I'm seeing from Tuah and the Dolphins feels like, oh,

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Speaker 1: any good throw, it gets social media within thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: But what he know. My takeaway is I've just seen this.

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Speaker 1: I know the game. Like like Tuah, once a day,

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Speaker 1: a great video will come out and be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: why that video come out? That's a that's an interesting

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Speaker 1: video the Dolphins released. They definitely want us to think

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Speaker 1: that two is getting better. They want Tah to think

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Speaker 1: he's getting better. They want the people in the huddle

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Speaker 1: to think he's getting better. But you're right, we're we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna know. And so listen, it's just human nature.

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Speaker 1: And they can say, oh, that's just media noise. It's not.

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Speaker 1: And I love Chris Greer. If Chris Greer and Brian

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Speaker 1: Flores are sitting there last year and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: our guy, he's young, he's coming along. We had to

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Speaker 1: pull him out of some games that were importing to us,

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Speaker 1: throw Ryan Fitzpatrick in because he's better now. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we really believe in this kid. Wait, what did Justice

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Speaker 1: Herbert just do? Like? WHOA like it? It's just it's

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Speaker 1: human nature, Like you could have had that guy, but

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Speaker 1: you took this guy. How do they compare from the jump?

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Speaker 1: Not well for you? Now, that doesn't mean too I

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Speaker 1: can't get better or doesn't mean you, you know, hate

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Speaker 1: the fact that you picked him, but you're watching this,

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Speaker 1: you know, Revelatory guy looked like he's just born to

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Speaker 1: do it, and he and I don't. I don't want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to underscore the fact that he

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Speaker 1: that first game where we all went and then he

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Speaker 1: built on it, he had no prep. Anthony Lynn told

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Speaker 1: me that, you know, the the Chargers team doctors who

544
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: might have been like doctor Bombay from Bewitched for you

545
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: old people. They were like, hey, Tarad, let's give you

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Speaker 1: a little shot there. Oh, we just puncture your lung.

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Speaker 1: We're so sorry. You better go to this ambulance right

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Speaker 1: now and make sure you don't, you know, have something

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00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: horrible happened to you. And as that was going on,

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00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: like it's like and the Home of the Break. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they do flyovers there, but like all

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Speaker 1: that's going on, and finally Anthony lensis to Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: who's pretty young and still doesn't know. He goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're starting, and Justin kind of gives him the laugh

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Speaker 1: like haha, and Anthony goes, no, seriously, dude, you're the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And then it's like there's the kickoff and

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00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: then he went in. I think they had the ball first.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. The Cowboys acknowledge Dak had a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a setback. And it's funny when you pull

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Speaker 1: a groin, you often pull the other side because you overcompensate.

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Speaker 1: And my theory is Dak with a leg injury is

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Speaker 1: overcompensating by coming more of an arm thrower. In practice.

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Speaker 1: It's just completely natural. And that's what I would do

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Speaker 1: if I could throw. Yeah, right, So I don't necessarily,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal, but they don't

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Speaker 1: have a backup plan either, And you gotta let this

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Speaker 1: puppy heal. And they're on hard knocks and he's not playing,

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Speaker 1: and their schedule is pretty tough early, you know, they

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Speaker 1: open with the Buccaneers. Is there anything that concerns you

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Speaker 1: a little about the Dak news. Yes, because it's a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and it's an arm. I mean, anytime it's a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and it's a throwing arm, I don't care if

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Speaker 1: it's fatigue or you know, there's a little twins or yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know how it is. It's it's like

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Speaker 1: a picture, it's your arm. Dude. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks can get by when they're a little hobbled sometimes

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Speaker 1: or you know, apparently without an mcl if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, But if your arms starts getting you know, Jankie,

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Speaker 1: then I'm concerned. And you know, I covered Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: I considered the greatest ever when I was young in

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Speaker 1: the business, and he was coming off two MVPs and

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Speaker 1: you know, almost three Super Bowls a row, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden and training camp his elbow was just

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Speaker 1: a little weird and then next thing you do, he

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Speaker 1: had surgery and missed the whole year. Well, the next

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Speaker 1: year he came back and it was a quarterback competition

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Speaker 1: between him and Steve Young. Think about that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we were covering that daily. But then I'll never forget

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Speaker 1: up in Rockland at Sierra College, he walked off early

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Speaker 1: in the middle of an afternoon practice, back to the

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Speaker 1: locker room, and I knew him. I saw his face,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, something else happ And it was the

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Speaker 1: same elbow, maybe not the same exact injury, but same elbow.

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Speaker 1: Knew surgery and he played again in the last the

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Speaker 1: second half of the last game of the regular season,

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Speaker 1: the whole other story. But he basically missed all of

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Speaker 1: two years and then was on the Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't worry a ton about it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I always had this theory that, like the Lakers, they

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Speaker 1: added a bunch of pieces, but they've only really got

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Speaker 1: one player, Anthony Davis in his prime. Generally you have

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Speaker 1: to have like two stars in their prime to win

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Speaker 1: a title, preferably three to four players in their prime.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis year ten has had so many injuries I'd

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Speaker 1: argue he just left his prime. So so it's funny

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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys name the players in their prime. Zeke

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Speaker 1: Zeke isn't you know? What they're hoping is that we

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Speaker 1: don't know these guys that well, but they're gonna show

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Speaker 1: us this year. You're right, I mean the line, I

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Speaker 1: mean that, you know, maybe Zach Martin still is, but

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Speaker 1: like that, oh boy, that line was special. That's what

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Speaker 1: made Oh yeah, that's that's far from its prime collectively.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a it's a good question, and that's

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Speaker 1: my point. Dak is one of the few that's in

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Speaker 1: his prime and now he's hurt, so like Zeke's not

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Speaker 1: Amari's not ceedee Lamb probably is at the end of

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Speaker 1: this year. Nobody on the old line probably is. DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Lawrence should be yea, but it is under So my

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Speaker 1: takeaway and this thing is in the NBA you need

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Speaker 1: about three good players either in their prime or damn close.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL you probably need about seven. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I just don't see a lot of cowboys in their prime.

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Speaker 1: That wraps it up for the week. We're heading into

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