Speaker 1: Dean and I wanted to wish a huge congratulations to Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Vanessa Grimaldi, she obviously hosted this podcast for a very
Speaker 1: long time and she did such a great job. And
Speaker 1: I miss her energy and her positivity, uh, and her
Speaker 1: overall enthusiasm every time she hosted. I really do miss that.
Speaker 1: And she got married today, so Dean and I wanted
Speaker 1: to say congratulations. I'm so happy for Vanessa. Vanessa is
Speaker 1: just a good a good human being. She's got a
Speaker 1: great soul. You know, a lot of people say, oh,
Speaker 1: you have a smile that lights up a room. Vanessa
Speaker 1: has a smile that lights up a room. Every time
Speaker 1: she hosted a podcast, every time she was here, every
Speaker 1: time I interacted with her, she was nothing but warm
Speaker 1: and sweet and uh. I definitely miss her energy on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis. But I want to say congratulations. She
Speaker 1: married her beautiful now husband, josh Um the the Gray Wolf,
Speaker 1: Silver Wolf, very very handsome men. So they are a
Speaker 1: beautiful husband and wife. And um, I haven't seen any
Speaker 1: pictures from the wedding. I know it is a pretty
Speaker 1: small intimate ceremony, and I'm excited to see them on
Speaker 1: their wedding day. And I wish them nothing but the
Speaker 1: best and a lifetime of happiness. And I hope they
Speaker 1: grow their family soon because I know that Vanessa is
Speaker 1: going to be an incredible mother, and I just I
Speaker 1: just I'm really happy for and I'm happy for Josh,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy they found each other, and so I
Speaker 1: wish them the best. Ashley and I are sending them
Speaker 1: are love hell. I Suck at Dating with Dean, Vanessa
Speaker 1: and Jared and I heart radio podcast. What is going on? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Welcome to help. I Suck at Dating. This is Dean
Speaker 1: Ungler joined in studio Across the World by Jared Haven.
Speaker 1: Jared Um. I was told that you were gonna be
Speaker 1: recording from a car, But it looks like you're not
Speaker 1: in a car. What's the deal. So we were at
Speaker 1: a doctor's appointment. I thought it was gonna be running late,
Speaker 1: but we got out of there just in time. Uh.
Speaker 1: So we had our third doctor's appointment. I got to
Speaker 1: see an ultrasound once again, and the baby is doing well.
Speaker 1: Everything is healthy. We had a blood test drawn today.
Speaker 1: We don't get the results for a little while, uh
Speaker 1: to see if the child has any health complications with
Speaker 1: spina bifia. So hopefully those come back normal, and hopefully
Speaker 1: everything is healthy. Everything is looking good. The sonogram, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. I honestly, for the first time I
Speaker 1: felt really connected to the kid because it's starting to
Speaker 1: look real. It's starting to look real. Sorry, of course,
Speaker 1: the phone of the ring when I'm going into this moment,
Speaker 1: I hope the landline. Oh, it's a landline. I'm at
Speaker 1: my in laws right now. You don't think my in
Speaker 1: laws have a landline that gets called nine times a day.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've heard a landline phone ring in
Speaker 1: over a decade. It's been a while for me too.
Speaker 1: Every time the phone rings, it's quite jarring. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this obscure sound I'm hearing in the background. Nope,
Speaker 1: it's just the phone ringing. But anyway, let's see if
Speaker 1: it ends. Do you want to how many you want
Speaker 1: to answer it live on air? I should huh. I
Speaker 1: don't want to move the mic because I'm gonna understand up.
Speaker 1: Ashley's coming in now. Just this is such part for
Speaker 1: the course of help. I second dating. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. How many rings does that landline have?
Speaker 1: It goes for like twelve times. Yeah, can you get
Speaker 1: a voicemail? You know, remember the old days where you
Speaker 1: would hear your voicemail played like you would the phone
Speaker 1: would ring and then it would directly go to voicemail
Speaker 1: and then you could hear your voicemail. Those are the days, man,
Speaker 1: I do remember those days. Hey, So okay, So beyond
Speaker 1: all of those things that you're saying, this appointment was
Speaker 1: there was there any other big news shared at the appointment. Oh,
Speaker 1: that news is already shared. We know the sex of
Speaker 1: the baby. We've I'm not sure if I've I've told
Speaker 1: you that, are told people on Instagram that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we know we found out the sex. We had a
Speaker 1: little moment between Ashley and I. This was like two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Now. We were in Rhode Island and uh,
Speaker 1: we drove to the place that we're looking to build
Speaker 1: our home and it's by the water, so we had
Speaker 1: like we sat on these docks and uh it was
Speaker 1: actually quite awkward because there was a guy on the
Speaker 1: boat just staring at us because we definitely were not
Speaker 1: allowed on those docks. But uh, it got sent in
Speaker 1: an email form, which is so where we found out
Speaker 1: the sex of our baby via email. Very anticlimactic, but still,
Speaker 1: you know, technology is crazy these days. So we had
Speaker 1: a moment and uh we sat down with Lois and
Speaker 1: opened the email and found out the sex of our kid,
Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy. Now it's much more real and
Speaker 1: what is that, uh gender the kid? Well, we're just
Speaker 1: trying to we're trying to figure out how to tell
Speaker 1: people on social media. To you, we told our families, Um,
Speaker 1: so they you're trying to figure out how you can
Speaker 1: make a quick buck on social media by sharing it
Speaker 1: and possibly we'll say, but it's it's crazy, man, it's exciting.
Speaker 1: And uh, the you know, the ultrasound was pretty It
Speaker 1: was the first time that I felt, like, I said,
Speaker 1: really connected to our baby. And uh I I didn't cry,
Speaker 1: but I could definitely feel myself overwhelmed with emotion, which
Speaker 1: made me really happy because that was the first time
Speaker 1: that's really happened. I I felt more emotional seeing the
Speaker 1: ultrasound of our baby today, more so than when I
Speaker 1: found out we were pregnant. Um. And I think it's
Speaker 1: just becoming more and more real seeing you know, literally
Speaker 1: so that the baby was like moving around, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, the legs kicking and and you could
Speaker 1: see hands and the head and you could see the
Speaker 1: mouth moving. It was it was pretty surreal. And then
Speaker 1: you know you're watching all this while simultaneously hearing you know,
Speaker 1: you're child's heartbeat, and um it was cool, man, it
Speaker 1: was really cool. Would you be would you be equally
Speaker 1: as excited, more or less excited if it was a
Speaker 1: baby of the opposite sex of whatever the baby's sex is,
Speaker 1: I would be equal. I'm very indifferent about the sex
Speaker 1: of our baby. Ashley has made it known that she would,
Speaker 1: uh say, you know, she'd love either a boy or
Speaker 1: a girl, but she would prefer a girl. I'm very indifferent. Um,
Speaker 1: so as long as the baby is healthy, I've always
Speaker 1: wanted a boy and a girl. Um, So, I don't
Speaker 1: think i'd be you know, I don't think my emotion
Speaker 1: would change at all. Something this to say, this is
Speaker 1: not the last time you guys will be getting an
Speaker 1: ultrasound together for obviously you're gonna get more with this kid. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: not for this pregnancy. Yeah yeah, But I'm saying you
Speaker 1: guys are definitely have more kids after this, I hope. So.
Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is Ashley is still having a
Speaker 1: pretty bad pregnancy up to this point where she's sick constantly.
Speaker 1: Did she threw up? She had macaroni and cheese yesterday
Speaker 1: like one o'clock in the afternoon because she was really hungry. Dude,
Speaker 1: five minutes later, she puked it all back up. It
Speaker 1: was disgusting. This might sound really ignorant of me, but
Speaker 1: I kind of would like dig being pregnant for nine months.
Speaker 1: You know, you can kind of get away with just
Speaker 1: about anything you want. You can eat anything you want,
Speaker 1: you can like far and puke wherever you want. Like,
Speaker 1: you get a lot of liberties for being a pregnant
Speaker 1: lady or you know, walking around the house. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I also feel like you just explained like liberties of
Speaker 1: a of a guy, the things that we I feel
Speaker 1: like you and I as a guy, we can kind
Speaker 1: of far anywhere we could be disgusting and it's socially acceptable.
Speaker 1: I guess the only thing I can really compare it
Speaker 1: to is you know when you get like really sick
Speaker 1: or something like you have a flu, and it just
Speaker 1: like kind of knocks you on your butt. It's so
Speaker 1: nice to like just have an excuse to lay in
Speaker 1: bed all day and watch movies and eat crap. Because
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm sick, so I'm just gonna do this
Speaker 1: until I feel better. I guess pregnancy. I just would
Speaker 1: imagine be like that on steroids and for nine months
Speaker 1: instead of five days. I find myself eating worse because
Speaker 1: she's eating way worse. So when she sends me to
Speaker 1: McDonald's because she's craving a cheeseburger, like, wholl, I might
Speaker 1: as well get the big macmeal, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm here and so. But the problem is like one
Speaker 1: day it's McDonald's, the next day it's Taco Bell, and
Speaker 1: then we're making McCarney cheese at home, and I haven't
Speaker 1: had greens and eight days and like, oh god, I'm
Speaker 1: I am just not in the best shape of my life.
Speaker 1: She's gonna lose ten pounds in one day, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna take a year to get the ten pounds that
Speaker 1: you're gonna gain off a thousand percent um. But everything
Speaker 1: is good. I appreciate you asking um, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I want you to share the sex of the baby
Speaker 1: right now. That's the reason I'm asking Jared, what is
Speaker 1: the sex of the baby? Three to one? Say it?
Speaker 1: I can't, did you say it? I didn't. Unfortunately. Where
Speaker 1: are you right now in the world. I'm somewhere in Utah.
Speaker 1: So are you driving? Are you? Are you with Kalin?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Yeah? I'm driving, driving around for
Speaker 1: a nice hike this morning for sunrise. Saw a nice
Speaker 1: natural hot spring up in the mountains here in Utah.
Speaker 1: I am uh oh. I fly back to l A
Speaker 1: today and then I fly back to utap tomorrow, and
Speaker 1: then I'm driving to Montana to uh hang out with
Speaker 1: my brother for a week before we go to New
Speaker 1: York for a couple of days. So when you fly
Speaker 1: out to l A, will you just leave your van
Speaker 1: in a safe spot? I hope. I'm just gonna park
Speaker 1: it at the airport and come back for it because
Speaker 1: it's only gonna be like a day, I think. So
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But then, so Caitlin and I are
Speaker 1: flying to New York. She really wants to go to
Speaker 1: the US Open. So we're gonna go see the US
Speaker 1: Open in New York next week or a week and
Speaker 1: a half or whatever it is. And then that'll be
Speaker 1: cool for you too. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a
Speaker 1: big tennis fan, but I'll gladly go there to support
Speaker 1: her interests. Um, and then from there we're gonna fly
Speaker 1: to Greece and then go to Italy for like a
Speaker 1: week and a half or two weeks. So that'll be
Speaker 1: like our first well it'll be my first time in
Speaker 1: Europe in a long time, obviously because of COVID, But
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Speaker 1: I know Italy like might kind shut down again, so
Speaker 1: I'm a little skeptical of the trip. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're getting hit pretty hard with this Delta Barrea right now,
Speaker 1: which sucks. But hopefully you guys are still a bit
Speaker 1: to go and stay safe and do Greece. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous if you guys are able to go
Speaker 1: to Greece. We I dream of Santorini. Yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: we're going. I just feel a little guilty, like I
Speaker 1: know that COVID, Like it's just the fact that there's
Speaker 1: like so many cases coming up again, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're vaccinated, but it's just I still feel like a
Speaker 1: little bit of guilt traveling to Europe at the moment.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should at all. I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of these places, I mean, especially places like Greece
Speaker 1: or even Italy to a certain extent, A lot of
Speaker 1: the you know, tourism is the one that brings in money.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, one day we're all gonna die.
Speaker 1: So like they don't feel guilty about taking a week
Speaker 1: and a half vacation with your girlfriend. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: know you're right, but I just can't help it a
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, that's that's kinda what what we're doing.
Speaker 1: So nothing nothing. Oh yeah, you might have to this
Speaker 1: podcast on your own, by the way, next week. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I told you that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think I feel anyone that yet, but we'll see. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well that sucks because you're the true talent behind this.
Speaker 1: I just kind of the entire time, we all know
Speaker 1: it's true. Well, let's get into a couple of hot
Speaker 1: topics before we move into our guest um. This is
Speaker 1: from the New York Post headline frisky couple spotted having
Speaker 1: naked morning sex on cliff during lockdown, Dean, we all
Speaker 1: know this was you and Kalen. They took quote sex
Speaker 1: on the beach to New Heights in Australian couple are
Speaker 1: going viral after they're spotty getting frisky on a cliff
Speaker 1: during lockdown. Quote just don't just thought it was a
Speaker 1: little levity given the times and the new restrictions. Photographed
Speaker 1: Scott Robinson told the news, Uh, he was the one
Speaker 1: who took these picks. Uh. He took them from the
Speaker 1: water while swimming. Uh sees quote he says, see lots
Speaker 1: of wildlife, but never hear up on the cliffs. So
Speaker 1: the resulting pick, First of all, is this legal? Can
Speaker 1: you like take pictures of people having sex publicly? I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that's kind of messed up. I would
Speaker 1: be piste off. I was the couple. I mean granted, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're having sex outside, so it's like you kind of
Speaker 1: get what's coming to you. But like, who just takes
Speaker 1: a picture of people banging and then go ahead, goes
Speaker 1: ahead and like publishes it to the news outlets. It's
Speaker 1: kind of weird. That's pretty great, So it goes on.
Speaker 1: The resulting pick, which Robinson posted in the private Facebook group,
Speaker 1: shows the buck naked couple going at it halfway up
Speaker 1: a coastal cliff, right under the noses of obvious sightseers
Speaker 1: standing atop the bluff. These people are insane and the
Speaker 1: incompany caption the photo jokingly pondered whether they're sextra circular
Speaker 1: activities were considered quote outdoor recreation or outdoor exercise. Wow,
Speaker 1: he's a real he's a real jokes or that one
Speaker 1: should be a stand up comedian. The photographer also referenced
Speaker 1: Australia's renewed lockdown restrictions would stipulate that New South Wales
Speaker 1: residents cannot leave their government areas except to exercise or
Speaker 1: engage in other essential active at ease. I mean this
Speaker 1: is kind of essential. I think sex is essential, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Alright, quick, nice quick sidebar? Is
Speaker 1: it buck naked or butt naked? Okay? I was thought
Speaker 1: it was butt naked, but in the article it is
Speaker 1: spelled b u c k dash naked, So maybe that's
Speaker 1: like an Australian thing. Yeah, I was thinking, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because you know, maybe bucks like a like a you know,
Speaker 1: like a buck, because they're naked. Why not? Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: it be like moose naked or something? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm currently drinking coffee out of a monkey cup, so
Speaker 1: why would it be mucky naked? Their monkey? There? You
Speaker 1: know they're naked too. That's a good point. Jared where
Speaker 1: is Speaking of buck naked, where was the weirdest place
Speaker 1: that you and Ashley have ever been buck naked together? Uh?
Speaker 1: The weirdest, like the most bizarre, the most out of
Speaker 1: the Um. Oh, that's a great question. I feel like
Speaker 1: you probably have a better answer than me. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we haven't. Really we never did it in a public place. Um.
Speaker 1: I guess, man, I'm so lame. Probably just in the
Speaker 1: living room, you know, so in the apartment, but you know,
Speaker 1: getting frisky in the in the non bedroom environment, and
Speaker 1: you know, we we stayed down in the living room
Speaker 1: and you know, did some things and had a good time.
Speaker 1: And now I tell the tale and help I suck
Speaker 1: a dating. Is that where baby Haven was conceived? No,
Speaker 1: baby Haven was conceived, Actually baby Haven was conceived. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I should say this. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: say it in her parents house, in her parents bedroom. No, God,
Speaker 1: that would be I don't think I'd ever be able
Speaker 1: to look at our kid h the same way. Again,
Speaker 1: if that happened it was down in the guest room.
Speaker 1: It would have been cool if it was their bedroom,
Speaker 1: because then it would be like Ashley was conceived there.
Speaker 1: And now you guys, kid is conceived there. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's disgusting. Where's the weirdest place you and Kaylin have
Speaker 1: ever been frisky? Whoa dude? That's a really personal question.
Speaker 1: Who brought this guy? I don't know. We're pretty we're
Speaker 1: kind of in the same thing as you guys, probably
Speaker 1: somewhere in the living room. I gotta admit I feel
Speaker 1: if if people had to pull, like if we pulled
Speaker 1: all of suck Army and said, who do you think
Speaker 1: is more adventurous in their sex life Dean and Caitlin
Speaker 1: or Ashley and Jared, I feel like you guys would
Speaker 1: win in a landslide. Yeah. Maybe we just give off
Speaker 1: that vibe. I don't know. I feel like all like
Speaker 1: all that, all the oddities and like the weirdness when
Speaker 1: it comes to like fun locations when you're doing it
Speaker 1: like that, I feel like that's just like something you
Speaker 1: do as a kid, you know, like up until you're
Speaker 1: like I think you just kind of grow out of
Speaker 1: it at some point, yeah, because then you start pulling
Speaker 1: hamstrings and your back gets tight and you're like, this
Speaker 1: is just so stupid. What are we doing. Let's go
Speaker 1: in the bedroom. We can have much more flexibility in there.
Speaker 1: I would say, I'm assuming that the weirdest or most
Speaker 1: obscure place that you guys have ever, you know, mm
Speaker 1: hmm would be the van. Oh yeah, yeah, that's probably
Speaker 1: not wrong. Again, I just yeah, I guess, do you ever?
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, we're open books, but like just it
Speaker 1: kind of feels a little weird talking about this. This
Speaker 1: whole thing is weird talking about it. I just like
Speaker 1: I could see a kid Carrie Kaylin getting upset, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's a Christian woman, she's pure. I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't have to go into details here. It's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you guys have had overnight dates in
Speaker 1: the in the van. We moved together. We lived together
Speaker 1: for like two years, so I guess it's bound that
Speaker 1: we're bound to touch each other's privates at least a
Speaker 1: little bit at some Yeah, the the van would probably
Speaker 1: be the weird spot. Um there, maybe it's like another
Speaker 1: weird one, but I can't seem to think of it
Speaker 1: right now. But in my entire life, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I I used did it. Maybe I
Speaker 1: did weird things when I was like a kid, like
Speaker 1: a teenager, but I haven't done anything anything it's overly
Speaker 1: weird in a long time. One time I got a
Speaker 1: black eye, uh from you know, doing the damn thing
Speaker 1: as they say. I thought we were being We were
Speaker 1: down in a basement and there were pipes and like
Speaker 1: exposed edges of tables, and we thought it was a
Speaker 1: good idea, and then i'd like leaned down for something.
Speaker 1: I forget why, but I hit my heart my eye
Speaker 1: so hard on a pipe and my eye immediately blew
Speaker 1: up and it was all bloodshot. Dude. It was bloodshot
Speaker 1: and black and blue for a week afterwards, and I
Speaker 1: had to explain to people what the hell happened to me,
Speaker 1: and they were like, what happened to you? And my
Speaker 1: just I just I walked into a pole. It's a
Speaker 1: long story, so pathetic, of course, Like as soon as
Speaker 1: I tried something adventurous, it just goes downhill. I think
Speaker 1: I've shared this already on this podcast, but I can't
Speaker 1: remember it. There was a weird phase I was in
Speaker 1: in college where I wanted people to punch me in
Speaker 1: the face and so, like, I had a crush on
Speaker 1: this girl, what do you Brad Pitt from Fight Club?
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I had just seen the movie and
Speaker 1: I was inspired. I like had the crush on this girl.
Speaker 1: She's really pretty begun on a you dates. And then
Speaker 1: we were all like this house party together and I
Speaker 1: was like, just punched me in the face as hard
Speaker 1: as you can, and she was like, no, that's weird,
Speaker 1: and I was like do it. And then and then
Speaker 1: eventually she started just like punching me in the face
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I don't know, it was
Speaker 1: really weird. Did this escalate into a frisky situation? Like
Speaker 1: is there a good ending to this story? Or did
Speaker 1: she just punch you in the face. We were like
Speaker 1: in the middle of a house party and she was
Speaker 1: like she was like laying on top, like I was
Speaker 1: like laying flat on my back on the ground, and
Speaker 1: she was like straddling me like a fully clothed like
Speaker 1: not sexual at all, and I was just like punched
Speaker 1: me in the face. And it was really weird. And
Speaker 1: then I woke up the next morning and I had
Speaker 1: this really bad black eye and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: as far as anyone is concerned, that doesn't know how
Speaker 1: I got this. I got like a six street fight
Speaker 1: with a big guy. He kicked his butt, but he
Speaker 1: got one lucky punch in so yeah, you should see. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say those are my proudest moments, but it was,
Speaker 1: you know, it was, it happened, So it's it's part
Speaker 1: of what makes me me, I guess, and I know
Speaker 1: in reality Dean woke up and was like, I'm never
Speaker 1: drinking again. Um. Yeah. We do have a great couple
Speaker 1: of guests coming up from Shaws of on Set. We
Speaker 1: have Mike show It and Paulina ben Cohen, which, of course, uh,
Speaker 1: Shaw's of Sunset airs on Bravo Sunday nights, eight pm.
Speaker 1: It's in its ninth season. Uh. And they're gonna be
Speaker 1: coming up on the podcast right after this quick break.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to help I suck at dating Dean myself,
Speaker 1: and we have some very special guests from Shaws of Sunset,
Speaker 1: which of course airs on Bravo Sunday nights at eight
Speaker 1: p m. In its ninth season. It is Mike show
Speaker 1: It and Paulina ben Cohen. How are you guys, Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast, Thanks for having us, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Of course. So, like I said, it's going
Speaker 1: into its ninth season, Shaw's of Sunset. Uh, it's a
Speaker 1: crazy successful show. Mike, Uh, you know when you first
Speaker 1: were on the show, did you ever think it was
Speaker 1: gonna turn into this? Not a chance? Like they gave
Speaker 1: a six episode season one. We filmed the teaser in
Speaker 1: a friend's backyard. I think it's gonna be a fun run.
Speaker 1: I'll have some some little bit of fame, and man,
Speaker 1: it was incredible to see what it blew up into
Speaker 1: becoming like, uh yeah the show. The show aired, and
Speaker 1: Bravo was just in shock, like wow, we found the
Speaker 1: next big thing. Over a million and a half people
Speaker 1: tuned into the show. They were super excited, and before
Speaker 1: the sea the season was even over, they were asking
Speaker 1: us about a season two. What do you think it
Speaker 1: is about the show that makes it so successful? Or
Speaker 1: has made it so successful? America lacks culture, right because
Speaker 1: what you used to see on TV was just sitcom's right,
Speaker 1: and and if there was reality TV, it was like
Speaker 1: Survivor and that kind of stuff. Right. So, um, when
Speaker 1: we came on, we opened the door to our culture
Speaker 1: that people knew very little little about. Right. They saw
Speaker 1: things on the news because of the Iran war or
Speaker 1: what they would hear about these you know, these these
Speaker 1: mola's um and then here we are showing a different
Speaker 1: side where we party. We you know, we're just like
Speaker 1: the next guy. We want to have a good time
Speaker 1: the next girl. We want to eat and drink and party,
Speaker 1: and we short people our culture on music or language,
Speaker 1: our food, and most importantly our friendship. You know, it
Speaker 1: was based around a group of real friends who have
Speaker 1: grown up together and you get to see our trials
Speaker 1: and tribulations and people really like that kind of stuff. So, Paulina,
Speaker 1: you're coming into it now, how has your experience been
Speaker 1: thus far? Uh, you know, being on Shaw as the sunset,
Speaker 1: it's been really nice. Yeah, well there we go short,
Speaker 1: but to the point like, um, honestly, it's a bit overwhelming. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a lot of drama, and it's
Speaker 1: very hard to come into a group of friends who
Speaker 1: are so you know, they're tight and united and super
Speaker 1: involved in each other's business, very much so to the
Speaker 1: point where I I can't even imagine. Um, it's literally
Speaker 1: like in high school. That's like how you're so involved
Speaker 1: with um, you know, and like your friends relationships and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Like that's literally how it should be
Speaker 1: in high school. But yet they are a bunch of
Speaker 1: you know, forty five year old, and yet it's as
Speaker 1: if we're in high school. Oliver, do you feel a
Speaker 1: little bit like an outsider? Um? Yeah, they're definitely not
Speaker 1: my cup of tea. Well, it's you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of I feel like relationships go through that where a
Speaker 1: girl or you know, boyfriend or girlfriend or people will
Speaker 1: start dating and then you enter into their friend group,
Speaker 1: their family, and it just feels like sometimes you're kind
Speaker 1: of the the out, you're on the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: and I feel like so many people go through that. Um,
Speaker 1: how have you been able to navigate that? To try
Speaker 1: to insert yourself into this new group of people that
Speaker 1: are so close with the you know, the guy that
Speaker 1: you're dating. Um. At the beginning, it was a lot easier.
Speaker 1: They were very welcoming and very friendly and loving. Um.
Speaker 1: I think this season, you know, it took a turn. Um.
Speaker 1: Some people were very actually say they were there for me. Um.
Speaker 1: Others were not. Um, it's tough, right. So it's really
Speaker 1: like you guys said, like you alluded to, you come
Speaker 1: into a group, whether your boyfriend or a girlfriend, and
Speaker 1: there's a there's a click already. I'm so sorry. Let
Speaker 1: me Oh, you're fine, you know, it's funny. That's the
Speaker 1: second land line that has rung during this podcast because
Speaker 1: I'm currently I'm my in law's house and as soon
Speaker 1: as we started the podcast, their phone is ringing. And
Speaker 1: then Dean said he hasn't heard of landline in probably
Speaker 1: fifteen years because our gate. So you know, I hear you.
Speaker 1: My girl here is addicted to Postmates, Amazon, you name it.
Speaker 1: You know we have thirty five package is a day
Speaker 1: at the door, So I hear you there. It's wild
Speaker 1: man um. Just like just like you guys are alluding to,
Speaker 1: anytime you come into a group of friends as as
Speaker 1: as the partner or boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever, those people already
Speaker 1: want to not like you because they are so protective
Speaker 1: of their friend, right, like, oh, what does Mikey want?
Speaker 1: You know, who what is he all about? Is he
Speaker 1: trying to use her or whatnot? So my friends, because
Speaker 1: we're so tight, also felt the same way, right, So
Speaker 1: they're very protective of me. But it's like overboard sometimes.
Speaker 1: So when she's saying it's like high school, it's like
Speaker 1: grown adults. If I don't bring my partner to a party,
Speaker 1: there's no reason to be interrogated why she's not there. Right.
Speaker 1: We all go through trials and relations we all have
Speaker 1: fights and you know, to spotlight that is just is
Speaker 1: not right. Right, you stepped out, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: most definitely. Can you guys share a little bit more
Speaker 1: about how you guys met each other? UM. So I
Speaker 1: had a friend in Las Vegas that that that UM
Speaker 1: I was very close with back when I lived there. UM,
Speaker 1: and he's we stayed in contact when I moved back
Speaker 1: to California. He knew about my divorce. UM, I knew
Speaker 1: that I was single and dating. He's like, man, you
Speaker 1: need to find yourself a nice Persian Jewish girls. So
Speaker 1: you can try that and and and see. Because I
Speaker 1: had all these preconceived thoughts of what a Persian Jewish
Speaker 1: girl was like. UM, and uh, He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: she's really hot, you'll love her. And I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you know, have some fun with her. And UM it
Speaker 1: was definitely. I never thought that it would lead to
Speaker 1: to where we are now in our relationship. UM. We
Speaker 1: gave it a shot. We went on the first date
Speaker 1: and I fell in love with her. I was married
Speaker 1: from from the second I met her. UM. We talked
Speaker 1: in the phone for a couple of weeks, I got
Speaker 1: to know each other, uh, exchange pictures, um. And she
Speaker 1: has a beautiful voice, very sexy voice, and she was
Speaker 1: very complimenting of me, and I was very complimenting of her.
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to get to know her before
Speaker 1: UM I took out on a date because typically my
Speaker 1: dates were go out, we hook up, and we probably
Speaker 1: will talk again, or we might just to hook up again.
Speaker 1: And with her because she's Persian and Jewish, I wanted
Speaker 1: to give her a little more respect. UM. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's go to sushi our first date. And on the
Speaker 1: way to the sushi spot, it's like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm really in the mood for, And I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, dirty thoughts, like what you know, excited. She's
Speaker 1: like Taco Bill. So what she was, Yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: have Taco Bell. Yeah, talk about the best. But on
Speaker 1: the first date in l A, well, I was that's
Speaker 1: very rare, and she didn't want to tell me she's vegan.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So we go to Taco Bell and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm a big baller a Taco Bell, so
Speaker 1: order everything on the menu and I had, um, can
Speaker 1: I get one double decker, No me, and we sat
Speaker 1: down and like, um, you know you want to try
Speaker 1: another stuff? She goes, no, I'm vegan, and we started talking.
Speaker 1: She nibbled down her little taco while I just scarfed
Speaker 1: down all this taco bell and we sat there for
Speaker 1: like three hours. I think. Yeah, it was wild man
Speaker 1: um to the point where the security guard came over.
Speaker 1: It was like, you guys are having a lot of fun, huh,
Speaker 1: Like like you know, you're a taco bell right, Like
Speaker 1: that's what he was trying to insinuate. I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: And we snapped out of that trance because we just
Speaker 1: were so focused on each other and three years later
Speaker 1: were so together. It's yeah, I know you guys are
Speaker 1: about to close Taco Bell down. That's pretty awesome. And Paulina,
Speaker 1: I know that you have two beautiful children. Um. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people ask us when they should tell,
Speaker 1: you know, if they're if they're single mom or single dad,
Speaker 1: when they go on dates, when should they bring up kids?
Speaker 1: You know, when should that conversation happen? Because some people
Speaker 1: are a little hesitant to bring it up early because
Speaker 1: they don't want to scare someone away, but also they
Speaker 1: want to be real and authentic and be true to themselves.
Speaker 1: So how do you How did you navigate that? I
Speaker 1: would say, right off the bat, you should mention it. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm like that, I'm very straightforward. Um, right
Speaker 1: off the bat, I told I told Mike I have
Speaker 1: two kids. Um. It's funny. When I first sent him
Speaker 1: a picture with me and my it was me and
Speaker 1: my son at the time, he thought it's like my
Speaker 1: niece or something, or my nephew. Um. So the first
Speaker 1: feature he said was you and and and in Yes,
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm sorry you guys want you guys were
Speaker 1: kissing each other. Yes, how cute. That's your niece. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like no. I was like, okay, cool, you
Speaker 1: have you have a daughter? How? She goes, well, no,
Speaker 1: I have two kids, Like oh no way. Then the
Speaker 1: next picture came and it was with don and her daughter.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, damn, okay, Um, I guess we're
Speaker 1: just gonna have some fun and you know, we'll just
Speaker 1: you know, call it that. I think it's it's better
Speaker 1: to be straightforward if someone's gonna get scared and that's
Speaker 1: not a person for you, but like it, it sounds
Speaker 1: like you you weren't scared necessarily, but you were still
Speaker 1: a little taken aback by it. But you were obviously
Speaker 1: at the end of the day totally okay with everything.
Speaker 1: You know. At the time, it wasn't the ideal situation,
Speaker 1: you know, because I was young guy, just got out
Speaker 1: of a divorce. I wanted to have fun. I really
Speaker 1: didn't want to take on more responsible than I needed to,
Speaker 1: and I really didn't think much of it. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, she just got out of the divorce. I
Speaker 1: just got out of one. We're just gonna have a
Speaker 1: good time and we'll see where it goes. Um Realistically,
Speaker 1: that's not an ideal situation for anyone, right, It's hard,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, oh, you have kids. Great.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just unless the unless both of you
Speaker 1: had children and you come together like the Brady Bunch,
Speaker 1: then it makes right sometimes. But but you know, after
Speaker 1: our first day, I was like, whatever, Okay, she has kids,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. Because again, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: even understand the responsibilities that it's gonna take to to
Speaker 1: help raise two kids. They were five and two, so
Speaker 1: there were baby babies, you know, like, um, so I
Speaker 1: didn't meet Mason for for several months. Um, and I
Speaker 1: met Meila. She was only two, so she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, she's not gonna remember much of it to
Speaker 1: Wolf and we all went and had lunch. And I
Speaker 1: remember before I got there, I stopped to get her
Speaker 1: a toy because I wanted to make a good impression.
Speaker 1: So I got her a bubble toy. But but I'm
Speaker 1: stupid because I didn't realize how big this freaking bubble
Speaker 1: toy was. And she had a little hand. She's trying
Speaker 1: to like hold this bubble bubble. But you know, just
Speaker 1: she had she loved it because it was like Dumbo
Speaker 1: or something. I don't remember. It was like was it
Speaker 1: a unicorn? So it was it was cute and I
Speaker 1: want Brownie points with Paulina and with Mila, and she
Speaker 1: did at CPK in Hollywood. Well, so now that you
Speaker 1: guys have been together three years, is there any talks
Speaker 1: of you guys having your own kids? Yes? Yes, um, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We went to a fertility doctor just to make sure
Speaker 1: that that I can have children, that she can have children,
Speaker 1: that everything's okay because I'm getting a little bit older
Speaker 1: and forty two, right, Um, and everything's working fine, and
Speaker 1: you know, the doctor said that you guys are good
Speaker 1: to go, and you must just have sexual What do
Speaker 1: you say. She's the funniest thing. You didn't say have sex.
Speaker 1: He's like, to have sexual encounters. Wow, you just made
Speaker 1: that sound. So it's amazing how when people try to
Speaker 1: make something sound more elegant or sophisticated, it just sounds
Speaker 1: so much worse. So it just tells to have sex.
Speaker 1: That's it. You must have sexual encounters. I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: all right? And then you know you have three days
Speaker 1: when a woman's ovulating and it's just like it's you're
Speaker 1: working under pressure for trust me, man, I just it
Speaker 1: through it. My wife is fifteen weeks pregnant and uh,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. And uh, oh my god. So
Speaker 1: we tried for seven months man, and like the pressure
Speaker 1: is just like oh yeah, it's like okay, we gotta
Speaker 1: have sex right now, like three times today, two times tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh god, I'm not a young man anymore.
Speaker 1: This is not as fun as it used to be.
Speaker 1: And you just you gotta perform, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's hard, it's hard. Oh, there'll be nights
Speaker 1: where it was like, yeah, you're just like Okay, we
Speaker 1: gotta like keep going because I'm having a mental block
Speaker 1: right now. We're with you, dude. It's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's hard. Yeah, that's a lot of sexual encounters guys,
Speaker 1: but you have to perform, right, It's not just you know,
Speaker 1: just just sex. You gotta yeah, you want to like,
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy it. Uh. Well, obviously this podcast is
Speaker 1: called help I suck at dating, So I have to
Speaker 1: ask you, Pauline Mike, who sucks at dating more a
Speaker 1: thousand percent me here? Really, I thought you were going
Speaker 1: to say, I'm surprised to hear that. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I'm really good at dating. I'm just really
Speaker 1: bad at relationships, right, yeah, And you know exactly what
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, you're very very to are very good
Speaker 1: looking guys. You know, you understand I'm ugly, so I
Speaker 1: have to have a game, you know. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: handsome at all. My game was on point, you know.
Speaker 1: So thres a taco bill, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It was, And you're very charming, so I try to
Speaker 1: be and I was a show off. I bought you
Speaker 1: every taco on Burrito Taco. Hey, Mike, if I look,
Speaker 1: if I look half as good as you when I'm
Speaker 1: forty two, I'll be very happy. You really better? How
Speaker 1: do you I'm thirty? Oh wow, young dude? Enjoy it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, Jared, what are you? Thirty two? Yeah, going
Speaker 1: on thirty three? Get up there? Um well, Mike, Uh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Paulina, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. We really appreciate it. Everybody who's listening right now,
Speaker 1: of course please go watch I'm sure you already do
Speaker 1: because it's in its ninth season. Uh Shaws of Sunset,
Speaker 1: which of course is on Bravo Sunday at eight pm. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you so much guys for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, thanks guys. Thanks quick
Speaker 1: and easy. I thought we do it here and help
Speaker 1: my second All right, everybody, welcome back to help I
Speaker 1: suck at dating. Mark is here with us. He is
Speaker 1: going to hopefully read us some emails and we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can't answer them. For you, guys, they are
Speaker 1: both anonymous, suspicious perhaps or just nick? Could it be?
Speaker 1: This one's a quickie. I joined Hinge and I have
Speaker 1: going out on one date with one guy. Is it
Speaker 1: appropriate to ask if he's going out with anyone else
Speaker 1: on the second date? Or is that too soon? Way
Speaker 1: too soon? What? It's a thousand percent appropriate. You should
Speaker 1: ask you whenever, you ask right away if you want.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's fine to ask, but don't
Speaker 1: don't have expectations of him saying he hasn't he's not
Speaker 1: going on dates with any other people after one day? Right,
Speaker 1: right right? I'm saying you could ask for the sake
Speaker 1: of information, but don't be like, oh well, I don't
Speaker 1: think you should go on dates with anyone else. I
Speaker 1: think it's dangerous. I think it might send him heading
Speaker 1: for z Hills because he's gonna think you want more
Speaker 1: of a commitment from him than he's willing to give,
Speaker 1: even just by asking the question. I agree, let's do this.
Speaker 1: Then she should preface it by saying, Hey, I haven't
Speaker 1: been doing this very long. I'm kind of new to
Speaker 1: the game. You're the first person I've gone on a
Speaker 1: date with. Are you dating other people? Like? Essentially being like,
Speaker 1: should I be dating other people? From this APPI I
Speaker 1: think give a break. You can go on other dates
Speaker 1: with people unless you let's put a number on this
Speaker 1: I say after if you go on a third date
Speaker 1: with someone and it's been three good dates, then you
Speaker 1: can start inquire airing into if they're going on days
Speaker 1: with other people because you've been on one days. I
Speaker 1: say after the third date, because you're go on. You
Speaker 1: go on a first day and you feel things out,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, Okay, that went well. I want
Speaker 1: to go on a second day to see if it
Speaker 1: goes as well the second time, and then you go
Speaker 1: on another day, and then if it goes well enough
Speaker 1: for a third day and you go on the third
Speaker 1: day after that, I think you can really because we
Speaker 1: always say in this podcast you're gonna go on three
Speaker 1: days with one person in order to really know if
Speaker 1: that's the person you want to pursue or not. Because
Speaker 1: for example, my sister went on three dates with now
Speaker 1: you know her husband. First day went really well, second
Speaker 1: date not as good, and she was hesitant to go
Speaker 1: on a third date, went on a third date, went splendidly,
Speaker 1: and now they're married. So I would say three dates
Speaker 1: and after the third date you can start asking like, hey,
Speaker 1: are you seeing other people? Are you going on dates
Speaker 1: with other people? Because then it's getting serious Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever said what we say on this
Speaker 1: podcast all the time. I don't think we've ever said
Speaker 1: that on this podcast. First and foremost, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to leave with that. We definitely have. It's been a while,
Speaker 1: but we have kind of all all my short term
Speaker 1: memory losses. It's pretty bad these days. But second of all,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's so binary. I think you just gotta, like,
Speaker 1: if you're feeling it, just do it. You know. It's
Speaker 1: not like after an X amount of dates, ask this question.
Speaker 1: It's just like, if you're curious, ask the question. There's
Speaker 1: no harm in it. And you can even say something
Speaker 1: along the lines of like, I don't care if you're
Speaker 1: dating other people. I just like I want to know this.
Speaker 1: I think that's totally legitimate. But just by asking the question,
Speaker 1: I think shows that you care. Okay, But then let's
Speaker 1: also say this. Let's say she's she's got some growing
Speaker 1: pains with this new app dating culture thing, so like,
Speaker 1: let her work out the growing pains, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: she's gonna have to figure out what works and what
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and maybe by asking the question she can
Speaker 1: gauge the response and then decide whether it's appropriate to
Speaker 1: ask that question. That's soon into dating someone, Dean, that's
Speaker 1: what you and I are for. Okay, Anonymous emails us
Speaker 1: so that they can really find out more about the
Speaker 1: dating game today, because we're so knowledgeable obviously. But if
Speaker 1: if Anonymous asked this, this guy that you went on
Speaker 1: a day with, maybe he liked to Mark said, he
Speaker 1: gets a little freaked out. True. I just I just
Speaker 1: am a big advocate for speaking your mind. So if
Speaker 1: that's what you're thinking at the moment, go ahead and
Speaker 1: say it. What's this? What's that evil smirk for? Over there? Jared? Oh,
Speaker 1: I know I agree with you. I mean, I well,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, but I think it's time
Speaker 1: to move on to the second email? Was that evil? Sure? Sure? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I mean Anonymous you got zero ground there because
Speaker 1: you had one of us staying one thing, one of
Speaker 1: us say any other thing. Mark has yet to weigh in,
Speaker 1: so I guess you could be the tiebreaker here. No,
Speaker 1: I'm with Jared. I think you wait a least three days,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's not a number of dates. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: an escalation of physicality. Can we bring another? Can we
Speaker 1: bring someone else? And then Easton, can you maybe agree
Speaker 1: with me instead of agreeing with Jared, Hannah, Riley, anyone
Speaker 1: anyone that's on my team, anyone against me, don't chime in,
Speaker 1: but anyone that's on my I agree with you. Dean.
Speaker 1: I'm he's just being Easton. That's two to two, all right. Riley,
Speaker 1: you're the last one. You're the tiebreaker. What you got
Speaker 1: for us? Riley's not on. It's Hannah and Kendall. Wanna
Speaker 1: as already posted in the chat that she has not
Speaker 1: joining this conversation probations. No, that's fine, that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: He's a little sick. I think you can't speak. I
Speaker 1: think she agrees with shared, but Kendall candles get away in.
Speaker 1: Kendall says, I agree. I'll speak your mind. Speak your
Speaker 1: mind as a first game, all right. This is also Anonymous,
Speaker 1: also new to the dating game. She says, I was
Speaker 1: married for fifteen years, just recently started dabbling back in
Speaker 1: the dating scene. I'm forty, a super busy mom and
Speaker 1: career woman, so I don't have a ton of free time.
Speaker 1: I recently started dating someone new, and due to both
Speaker 1: of our busy schedules, we really only get to see
Speaker 1: each other maybe once a week. In the meantime, I
Speaker 1: want to keep in touch, and I know how important
Speaker 1: communication is, so I try to text him. He's not
Speaker 1: a great text her. He never texts me first, and
Speaker 1: he sometimes won't text me back for hours. I worry
Speaker 1: that maybe he's just not that into me, because I
Speaker 1: feel like if you were, he would make the time
Speaker 1: to reach out or tell me that he's thinking about me.
Speaker 1: Am I overthinking this a thousand percent? No, I do
Speaker 1: not think you are overthinking this. Anonymous, you're forty. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming this gentleman is probably around your age. Uh. You
Speaker 1: are a busy mom, you are a career woman. You're
Speaker 1: raising your children. You were married for fifteen years, and
Speaker 1: now you're getting back into the dating game. The last
Speaker 1: thing you want, the last thing you need, is some
Speaker 1: guy trying to play the game, so to speak. And
Speaker 1: so if he's not texting you first, he's taking hours
Speaker 1: to respond. As you said, communication is the most important
Speaker 1: part of a relationship, and if he's not willing to
Speaker 1: put the time in to communicate with you, I don't
Speaker 1: think you're overthinking. I think this guy might suck. Mm
Speaker 1: hmmm interesting. Interesting. Take quick quick tangent, quick tangent. I
Speaker 1: want to get I want to gage your guys opinion
Speaker 1: on this. It's it's kind of relevant, but not necessarily
Speaker 1: to answer the question. Um, I'm not afraid of many things,
Speaker 1: you know, like I I don't. I don't have any fears.
Speaker 1: But I will say one thing that I've kind of
Speaker 1: been thinking about more recently than I think is a
Speaker 1: fear of mine is, let's say, you know, God forbid
Speaker 1: in twenty years, Caitlin and I just decided to break
Speaker 1: up right all of a sudden, I'm fifty and single.
Speaker 1: I think that is the most terrible you know. I
Speaker 1: know Anonymous is doing great over there, but being fifty
Speaker 1: and single, freshly single, seems like it would be really awful.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have that fear as well? At all?
Speaker 1: Am I alone in that oh thousand percent? I'm I'm
Speaker 1: almost thirty three, and I think I'm too old for
Speaker 1: the game. Like, let alone, something happening in fifteen years,
Speaker 1: it would be very nerve racking, to say the least. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad that we all kind of feel
Speaker 1: the same way that Mark. I know you're already you know,
Speaker 1: I know that fifties in your rear view mirror at
Speaker 1: this point, but I still appreciate you having an input there. Um,
Speaker 1: I would say that with the nonymous being a bit older,
Speaker 1: with anonymous being a bit older, UM, I just think
Speaker 1: I think it's a generational thing where it's like guys
Speaker 1: and women of a certain age are just less tech savvy.
Speaker 1: Like you know, teenagers and early twenty year olds are
Speaker 1: glued to their cell phones all the time. So if
Speaker 1: they're not texting back right away, big issue because their
Speaker 1: phone is always in their hand. But like older gentlemen
Speaker 1: older women, I feel like they there may be less
Speaker 1: inclined to have technology be such a big part of
Speaker 1: their day to day life. So I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that big of a red flag. I guess I'm going
Speaker 1: off the assumption that he's also not calling her, you know,
Speaker 1: So if it is a generational thing, I would imagine
Speaker 1: he would try to call her sometimes and just let
Speaker 1: him let her know. You know, hey, what do you
Speaker 1: want to try to get together? Especially when you get older,
Speaker 1: as we can all attest to, your schedules start becoming busier,
Speaker 1: your free time becomes less and less. You really have
Speaker 1: to plan out things, and so it seems like anonymous
Speaker 1: over here is reaching out to say, hey, let's what's
Speaker 1: what are you doing next Thursday? Or what are you
Speaker 1: doing Saturday? Whatever, And it doesn't seem like this guy
Speaker 1: is doing it now. Granted, I'm making a leap there
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming this, but you know, there's only so
Speaker 1: much information we can go off of. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think, Mark, It's funny. It's funny when you mentioned
Speaker 1: that that being in the fear of being fifth dan single.
Speaker 1: When you brought that up, it didn't even occur to
Speaker 1: me that I'm already fifty and there's no danger of
Speaker 1: me being already passed never even entered my head. That's
Speaker 1: kind of a weird thing about being freshly fifty. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I agree with dean Um speaking for the generation extras
Speaker 1: out there. I have a lot of friends my age
Speaker 1: who are terrible texters. They will take days to get
Speaker 1: back to you and may never get back to you.
Speaker 1: They just they're not good at it. And so I think,
Speaker 1: unless this guy is always on Instagram and Facebook and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, I'm guessing he's not. I think it's
Speaker 1: probably fine, and you're maybe looking for problems that aren't
Speaker 1: really there. I think, just take it easy and relax,
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be okay. Well, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, Mark, because you say, I'm assuming the
Speaker 1: guys that you're talking about are your friends, right? Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1: Do you text your wife differently than you text your friends?
Speaker 1: For example, if your wife reached out, would you respond
Speaker 1: quicker than if a friend reached out. Yes, that's my point.
Speaker 1: I think that if she's reaching out and he's not responding,
Speaker 1: then maybe he isn't as into her as she's hoping. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a good texture though, but I think
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are just a little bit
Speaker 1: intimidated by this phone in their pocket. It's kind of
Speaker 1: a weird thing. I think, unless there are other problems
Speaker 1: that I think everything is okay. But I mean you
Speaker 1: make a point, Jared, for sure Eastern with your take
Speaker 1: on this, I feel like you've got something I'm good
Speaker 1: in put here. I think, even with technology barriers, I
Speaker 1: think that if someone's into they will send a carrier
Speaker 1: pigeon to get in touch with you, like, they will
Speaker 1: do whatever they can do. So I would be concerned,
Speaker 1: but also come on a newly single like just just
Speaker 1: live it. I don't know, try to get out of
Speaker 1: your head. I know it's a hard thing to do,
Speaker 1: but um, I don't know. I think that's great advice you. No,
Speaker 1: I agree, Anonymous, you know, I I don't know. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't overthink it because you are newly single and don't
Speaker 1: put too much stress on finding a relationship that quickly.
Speaker 1: I agree with Eastern, but I do agree. Like you're
Speaker 1: newly single, you're forty, you're smoking hot. Like play the
Speaker 1: field a little bit, you know, go on go on
Speaker 1: a day to day for a couple of weeks. Maybe
Speaker 1: just get him lined up, figure it all out. Remember
Speaker 1: that woman that went on a hundred dates, Uh, not
Speaker 1: a hundred days, but like a hundred she went on
Speaker 1: a hundred dates. So maybe Anonymous, Hey, there you go,
Speaker 1: a nice little challenge for yourself. You got the next year,
Speaker 1: So Anonymous, maybe this time next year you can email
Speaker 1: back on the podcast because obviously we'll still be airing
Speaker 1: because we're thriving, and you can give us an update
Speaker 1: on whether you went on a hundred dates in one year.
Speaker 1: Well that's the big thing too. If it's important for
Speaker 1: you to get text back in a like a timely manner,
Speaker 1: then that guy is probably not for you, because even
Speaker 1: if he's great for you, even if you guys are
Speaker 1: great together, whatever, if he doesn't text you back, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be something that you're fulfilled with. So yeah,
Speaker 1: just go on more dates. I think that's a pretty
Speaker 1: simple solution. Bought a bing, bought a boom. I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's episode. What do
Speaker 1: you think, Dean? What do you think? Easton? I one thing,
Speaker 1: just one really quick thing to bring up. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: right at the end here. Um, so you guys might
Speaker 1: know that in twenty nineteen, I was the Carmel Corn
Speaker 1: Princess for ArcLight Cinemas and very big deal for me.
Speaker 1: Um and Arcolit Cinnmas is no more, but I have
Speaker 1: regained I regained my crown. Uh. There's a popcorn company
Speaker 1: called Thank You Popcorn. They're very cool. They do like
Speaker 1: flavored popcorn, and they have named me thee Carmel Corn
Speaker 1: Princess and they let you designed my own flavor. I
Speaker 1: have my own Carmel corn. It's it's called the Carmel
Speaker 1: Corn Princess Mix. Uh, and it's Carmel corn with Eminem's
Speaker 1: mix in, which is what I do when I go
Speaker 1: to the movies, and I'm really excited about it, and
Speaker 1: you can get it right now. And the coolest part
Speaker 1: about it is that if you buy this old, proceeds
Speaker 1: go to a charity I like called Shoes that Fit,
Speaker 1: and it gets shoes for kids for school that can't
Speaker 1: afford it. And uh, Deana Jerry, you have some of
Speaker 1: this on their way to your house right now, so
Speaker 1: you guys can enjoy the popcorn. But um, thank you
Speaker 1: popcorn dot com if you want the Carmel Corn Princess mix.
Speaker 1: It's really good. I've been eating an old morning. Where
Speaker 1: where can people get it? Again? Thank you popcorn dot com.
Speaker 1: That's the name of the place to be. It's super
Speaker 1: good and it goes to a great cause. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love the Shameless plug. I really, I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think it's just great. I revolved my life around
Speaker 1: shameless plugs. You kidding me? Uh, Eastern, I have a
Speaker 1: question for you before we go, because you're such a
Speaker 1: big movie guy. If you had to choose one movie
Speaker 1: to show a date so you can even like to
Speaker 1: say you go on a day with Alison or like
Speaker 1: back in your single days, when you would go to
Speaker 1: the movies, if you could choose one movie throughout the
Speaker 1: entirety of civilization to see to show your date, what
Speaker 1: movie would you go to. I've thought about this before.
Speaker 1: That movie is Who's Harry Crumb starring John Candy, And
Speaker 1: the reason is I think that movie reflects my sense
Speaker 1: of humor very well. Uh not a lot of people
Speaker 1: have seen that movie, and if they like it and
Speaker 1: they're really to hang out with me afterwards, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good relationship. So that's the movie.
Speaker 1: That's such a good personalized answer. So Allison likes that
Speaker 1: movie without question, right, Allison Tolerant. She she enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 1: She has seen it a couple of times now, and
Speaker 1: she thinks it's funny. But I haven't, like committed a memory.
Speaker 1: It's like one of my favorite movies, and I don't
Speaker 1: know why. So maybe she doesn't like it, but she
Speaker 1: likes that you like it, yes, yes, and and she
Speaker 1: she appreciates like what it means to me, which is
Speaker 1: the most important part about it, I think. But that's
Speaker 1: the movie I would pick, and I think everyone she
Speaker 1: got to watch it too. Mark, what about you? What
Speaker 1: movie would you pick? And this is the sum yourself
Speaker 1: up in a nutshell? This is me. Is that what
Speaker 1: you're saying you can do well? You could pick whatever
Speaker 1: movie you want. Eastern went that route. He wanted to
Speaker 1: show a movie that was very personalized to him so
Speaker 1: his day or his wife could better understand his sense
Speaker 1: of humor and really enjoy the things that he wants
Speaker 1: to enjoy. Or you could say, Hey, I really think
Speaker 1: that this is a great romantic movie and this would
Speaker 1: get me on a set and date, which is why
Speaker 1: I'm bringing her to this movie. It's kind of whatever
Speaker 1: we whatever way you want to take it. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a tough one because I think Who's Harry Crumb would
Speaker 1: really not please a lot of potential dates. Like if
Speaker 1: you want to know me, I think it's probably Field
Speaker 1: of Dreams because it's family and it's baseball and it's
Speaker 1: time travel and it's just kind of whimsy. But I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's gonna get me a second date.
Speaker 1: I think it would because I think the person that
Speaker 1: you bring on the date would love your love for
Speaker 1: a sappy movie like Feel of Dreams. I mean, my god,
Speaker 1: when Costner is like Dad, I want to have a
Speaker 1: catch like, oh my god, just tears Niagara Falls. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, there we go. Well, what does Amy think
Speaker 1: of the movie? The same thing she tolerates. I mean,
Speaker 1: she probably likes a little bit more. We haven't seen
Speaker 1: it in probably twenty years together, well together, I've seen
Speaker 1: it plenty. But she's she likes she likes it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll say that. All right, Mark, use her homework for
Speaker 1: an next week. We got seven days until we see
Speaker 1: you next. It's it's the Friday night tonight. Maybe just
Speaker 1: turn the movie on. Get some of popcorn dot com,
Speaker 1: Carmel Corn Princess starring Easton with Eminem's in it. Pull
Speaker 1: up a chair and just go ahead and watch Peel Dreams.
Speaker 1: I wanted to show it to my daughters too. I
Speaker 1: definitely want to. That's a special. Yeah, that's cool. There
Speaker 1: you go, Jared, what's yours? Superman Verse, Batman Verse, Spiderman Verse,
Speaker 1: Batman against Snyder Cut? Oh my god, Justice League? Well, actually,
Speaker 1: so if you guys don't know, Justice League, the Zack
Speaker 1: Snyder cut came out earlier this year, and it was
Speaker 1: a four hour movie on HBO. Max and Ashley watched
Speaker 1: every minute of that four hours with me, And if
Speaker 1: I already didn't know that she was the one that
Speaker 1: double down on it, I would say it's a movie
Speaker 1: that actually I'll tell you a story that I again,
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna like slap me across the face
Speaker 1: because it is stupidity that I am. Back when Ashley
Speaker 1: and I were just friends. Uh, in the first few
Speaker 1: months of our friendship really starting to form, I told
Speaker 1: her that my favorite movie is in the nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: eight Superman and uh. But I was like, but I
Speaker 1: think you might like the second one better because there's
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a love romance involved in
Speaker 1: the storyline and uh, And I told her, like my
Speaker 1: ideal date. We were talking about our ideal dates, and
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I would probably be watching Superman or
Speaker 1: Superman two with you know, Chinese food and Junior Mints
Speaker 1: because I love Junior Mints. And she sent me a
Speaker 1: picture like a week later she was on her couch
Speaker 1: by herself Chinese food, Junior Mints and watching Superman too.
Speaker 1: And it's still it still took me two years before
Speaker 1: we started dating. So as you can see, I know
Speaker 1: the stupidity is is very but like that moment was
Speaker 1: something that will always just be like, Wow, you are
Speaker 1: just an incredibly human being and uh, it was cool.
Speaker 1: How did you did you say? Wow, that looks like
Speaker 1: fun enjoy? Well that was to know, That's what I mean. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that was in the midst of the fusion between Ashley
Speaker 1: and I, between us like are we friends? Are we
Speaker 1: more than friends? Like everybody who knew us at that
Speaker 1: point was like, hey, you guys. Now you guys like
Speaker 1: feel like boyfriend girlfriend? This is kind of weird. Uh,
Speaker 1: And so it was always like I was I was
Speaker 1: in love with her back then and just couldn't bring
Speaker 1: myself to like get out of my dumbness. So that
Speaker 1: was like, you know, and then I would respond and
Speaker 1: saying like how awesome she is and how much I
Speaker 1: care for and like, oh my god, this is so much.
Speaker 1: This is awesome and so like it's not that hard
Speaker 1: to believe that Ashley was a little confused back then,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was cool. So an my my movie
Speaker 1: would be the nineteen seventy eight Christopherree Superman, because one,
Speaker 1: I think it's a movie that females can joy as well,
Speaker 1: because it is like this, you know, Christopherree of one
Speaker 1: is not that hard to look at when he's in
Speaker 1: you know, the blue suit. My god, what a stud
Speaker 1: And then it also has that romance element and that
Speaker 1: magical element that you know a lot of people can
Speaker 1: get behind. Good answer, Dean, what about you? Uh? I
Speaker 1: think I talked about this on the podcast a while
Speaker 1: ago that Kaylin and I try to watch that movie
Speaker 1: Akida the like the anime movie from like the late eighties,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'll be honest, I hadn't seen it in
Speaker 1: a while. I remember loving it when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: a teenager, and Caitlin and I tried watching it, and uh,
Speaker 1: I think she fell asleep like twenty minutes into it.
Speaker 1: So I would say that movie because it was like
Speaker 1: a child of favorite of mine, but it didn't really
Speaker 1: go over all that well for Kaylin and I. So
Speaker 1: but then again, like it's a great movie, it's just
Speaker 1: there's some slow moments in it, and so like I
Speaker 1: can see why someone fall asleep in it, Like there
Speaker 1: were moments where I was kind of even getting a
Speaker 1: little like bored um. But other than that, I would say, maybe,
Speaker 1: like you guys all have these really great answers, um,
Speaker 1: I would say, maybe, oh my gosh, get out of here. Um, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a phone call. I would say, maybe, uh,
Speaker 1: how to Train Your Dragon? Is it a really good one?
Speaker 1: Is there no movie that I feel like you It
Speaker 1: would be like two thousand and one, a Space Odyssey,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Something that like is crazy.
Speaker 1: I love Interstellar and Caitlin has like set up a
Speaker 1: nice like little like last year for my birthday, Kalin
Speaker 1: sat up like a home theater in the spare bedroom
Speaker 1: and put on Interstellar for us and we watched that
Speaker 1: all night and it was really good. Again, it's another
Speaker 1: great movie, but there's just so many slow moments. I
Speaker 1: just think our attention spans are are dwindling down every
Speaker 1: single year, and um, you know the plot development, if
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen fast enough, we just kind of get
Speaker 1: over it. But what about Into the Wild guy gets
Speaker 1: in a van and heads up to Alaska and find
Speaker 1: his corpse later? Yeah, yeah, we were actually just talking
Speaker 1: about that movie. I was just on a bachelor party
Speaker 1: with Kalin's uncle and his he lived in Alaska for
Speaker 1: a long time, and we were talking about Alexander Super
Speaker 1: Tramp and he was like, yeah, in Alaska, everyone hates
Speaker 1: Alexander Super Tramp like he was so unprepared. He made
Speaker 1: so many foolish decisions. And it's so interesting to think
Speaker 1: about because like we all look at him as like
Speaker 1: a really interesting kind of like a heroic figure, but
Speaker 1: people in Alaska don't really seem to like him on
Speaker 1: that much. Yeah, that's very interesting. I was a huge
Speaker 1: Into the Wild fan when that movie came out. I
Speaker 1: was fast. I saw two times in theaters. I read
Speaker 1: the book. I was fascinated by Alexander Super Tramp. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Mark's got his homework. I'll think
Speaker 1: of a better movie for you guys to share next week,
Speaker 1: and then we'll all come back full circle and share
Speaker 1: all of of of our experiences. I guess, but that
Speaker 1: was gonna do it for this week's episode of Help
Speaker 1: by Second Dating you guys. I really appreciate the listeners
Speaker 1: joining tuning in and joining us this week. Uh. The
Speaker 1: Shaws of Sunset cast members Mike and Paulina, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us as well. Be sure to
Speaker 1: check out their shows Shaws of Sunset on Bravo. They've
Speaker 1: got a million episodes because they're in the ninth season now,
Speaker 1: so you won't be any won't be short for content there, Jared,
Speaker 1: one last chance. This is your very last chance to
Speaker 1: share the sex of your baby. We should really cut
Speaker 1: it off with me being like it's uh, and then
Speaker 1: the podcast and help by suck a Dating. I'm we're
Speaker 1: gonna share it soon. You know. I gotta talk to
Speaker 1: the wife obviously, she's the boss, uh. And she's the
Speaker 1: one who's persistently being sick and growing life inside of
Speaker 1: her while I just get her fast food and crackers sometimes,
Speaker 1: so it's really up to her, um rightfully so, but
Speaker 1: who knows. We'll see what happens next week, So make
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