1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Foodstep. I'm Any and I'm Lauren 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: vocal Bomb. And today we're talking about another thing I 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't really eat. Yes, we're making a bad habit of it. 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: It's it's okay. The list is long. We're talking about cucumbers. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Cucumbers and not pickles. Not no, not pickles. Oh my goodness. 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: We we have a pickle guest who works, yes, and 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: so a pickle episode is forthcoming, absolutely, but it is 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: not this one, not today. Today is a cucumber. And 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: I wanted to include a quote, a quote of the 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: episode right at the top from Samuel Johnson. A cucumber 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: should be well sliced and dressed with pepper and vinegar 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: and then thrown out as good for nothing. Dang right, 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: that is that is some strong words about a cucumber. 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't feel that strongly about cucumber, even 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: that I know I don't either. And I have to 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: say I'm someone who does have a lot of like 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: theatrics in me and a lot of enemies. Yeah, that's 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot even for me, like to put something, make 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: a dish out of it and just be like so spiteful, 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw you out at the end of this. 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: It's a lot, it is, but you know, I'm sure 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Sherry had his reasons he did, and we're going to 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: talk about them later. They're pretty excellent. Um, and No 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: pointed us to this song video sensation, Lauren have you 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is? Oh can we play 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: a clip of it right here in the studio? Absolutely? Okay, 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: this is fun. Yeah, this is like reaction video, but 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: it's audio version is very high non basilica here and longer, 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: stronger and make you look younger. He just did the 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: entire episode for us. Really. Yeah, yeah, you guys should 31 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: just be listening to that. Dude. Maccabee U on the 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: YouTube's has a number of uh wraps, rap rasta style 33 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: wraps like that. That's about the cucumber. It was excellent 34 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, that was a good overview for sure. 35 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but nevertheless, we're gonna we're gonna unpack all 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: of that stuff. Yeah, starting with the cucumber. What is it? Well, 37 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: cucumbers are the fruit of a flowering vine. And yes, 38 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: they're technically a fruit, not a vegetable, super technically or botanically. Rather, 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: they are a berry. But yeah, um, there are many 40 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: different kinds, but your basic cucumber is oblong with a 41 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: relatively thin, bitter, dark green skin encasing like very pale 42 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: green flesh, which is in turn encasing just a whole 43 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: bunch of seeds. Um. The flesh is watery and crunchy, 44 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: and the seeds are small and kind of soft and edible, 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: and the whole thing tastes fresh and green and cool 46 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: and a little bit savory or bitter or both. Mm hm. 47 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: The Latin name is cu Cumus sativous, and they're fairly 48 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: closely related to melons, pumpkins, ords, and squash. Yes, and 49 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: there are many, many, many types of cucumbers, oh yeah, 50 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: including not actually including the scored and cucumber. I wanted 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: to talk about it. I want to know what it is, 52 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: but it's it's not a cucumber, so not within the 53 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: purview of this episode. It's like vaguely related. It looks 54 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: sort of like a cucumber. It when when it's ripe, 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: it ejects its seeds. I mean it's a it's it's 56 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: a vegetable, but when it gets very ripe, it just 57 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: ejects its seeds like violently. So yeah, I'm going to 58 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: have a good laugh about that later, I you look 59 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: like you're having a good laugh about that. Right now, 60 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm struggling to contain myself the jokes I want to make. 61 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but we must move on. We yes, we 62 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: must sally forth, we must um. There are, yes, many, 63 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: many types of cucumber, from the pickling cucumber Kirby or 64 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Liberty to the Japanese and Mediterranean varieties. Their skins range 65 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: from smooth to bumpy to outright spiky, and can be 66 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: yellow to green, to striped or speckled with both, and 67 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: can be either completely edible or unpleasantly bitter and fibrous. 68 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: On average, they can range from two to forty that's 69 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: about five in length, and weigh anything from two ounces 70 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: to nine pounds nine pounds that's like fifty grams to 71 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: four kls. Yeah, englosh. Cucumbers can grow up to two 72 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: ft long a little under a meter, and our seedless, 73 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: and therefore sometimes marketed as burpless. Apparently the seeds give 74 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: some people gas. Touch on that a little bit later. Absolutely, 75 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: cucumbers typically are categorized in one of two ways, slicing 76 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: or pickling. Slicing cucumbers are eaten straight from the garden 77 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your cucumbers from, and generally have smooth, 78 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: spine free skin and can range in length from four 79 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: to twelve inches. Pickling cucumbers, on the their hand, are smaller, 80 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: like one to five inches, and their skin is bumpier 81 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: and or spinier. One thing in addition to squirting cucumbers 82 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: that is not technically a type of cucumber is a gerkin. 83 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Oh really, and okay, this is about to get what 84 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I considered completely unnecessarily complicated um. Botanically speaking, gerkins are 85 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: other fruits of viney plants in the cue curbitasy family, 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: the same as cucumber, and they resemble cucumbers in flavor 87 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: or appearance, for example, the cumus and guria, the West 88 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Indian gerkin, and the mellow Thorius scabra the Mexican sour gerkin. 89 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: That's botanically. Culturally speaking, gherkin is either a botanical gerkin 90 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: that has been pickled, or a small pickled cucumber of 91 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: any kind. Some people just pickle a cucumber and call 92 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: it a gherkin because they resemble other things that are gherkins, 93 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: and gherkins resemble cucumbers anyway, so I think that's why 94 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: I've been confused. I it's confusing. It really is, it 95 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: really is. So that's fine, right. Etymology wise, the origins 96 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: of the name is fairly straightforward, from the Latin cucumberan. 97 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Then the old French maybe or maybe not, took that 98 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: and turned it into cucumbra, and then that jumped to 99 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: English because it's pretty close cucumbra um, or perhaps it's 100 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: straight up came from wild Cliffs first English translation of 101 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: the Bible in which the cucumber gets name checked more 102 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: than once. Or it could have been both, but generally 103 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: that's a that's a simpler story than we're normally telling. Yes, 104 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: cucumbers are an annual plant, meaning that you have to 105 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: plant them a new each growing season from seeds or transplants, 106 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: and they will grow flower fruit and then die off. 107 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: The vines grow either bush like along the ground or 108 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: can be trained up trellises or or other standing objects, fences, 109 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: whatever you want. And the plants generally have both man 110 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: and female flowers, but some have been cultivated to have 111 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: a majority of one or the other. Either way, they 112 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: don't self pollinate or wind pollinate because they're pretty sticky. 113 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: You need insects, probably honey bees to do that for 114 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: you are, good, old friend, I know. In big agriculture, 115 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: cucumbers are harvested mechanically, like the whole plant is just 116 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: pulled up and sent for sorting. They're fairly delicate, and 117 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: it's considered best to hand pluck them from their vines. 118 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: The ones with thin skins come shrink wrapped in order 119 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: to prevent water loss along the way, which is why 120 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: if you've seen an English cucumber shrink wrapped there you go. 121 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: They don't want it to otherwise it would dehydrate like 122 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: a like a sponge. Title idea, the thin skinned cucumber. 123 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: All right, I like it. This is part of my process, everybody. UM, 124 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: if we're looking at nutrition, I've often heard of cucumber 125 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: referred to as a quote negative calorie food, meaning the 126 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: calories you expand on digesting it, or more than the 127 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: calories you get from eating it. Yeah, probably not. UM, 128 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: didn't find anything to back it up. But a half 129 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: cup will run you about eight calories and they are 130 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: water there. Side note here there are no scientifically rigorous 131 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: studies that prove that negative calorie foods are an actual thing. 132 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like throughout the day, about five of your 133 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: energy goes into digesting foods. But eating negative calorie foods 134 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: isn't going to give you enough nutrients to like live on. 135 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, if you like them, then 136 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: eat them, and we could all use more vegetables and 137 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: fibrous things in our diets. But please, please please ignore 138 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: people who try to sell you on like negative calorie eating. Yeah, yeah, 139 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: that's I mean, if you're going to go negative calorie, 140 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: that's should be done through a combination of diet and exercise. 141 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Don't just do it through food. No. Probably consulted doctor, yes, 142 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: always away. We are not medical professionals, no, noop, noop. 143 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: But whatever the case, they are healthy. They have potassium, 144 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: vitamins A, B, six C and K full eight, magnuseum siamine, phosphorus, copper, 145 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: and manganese. I did read somewhere that it was kind 146 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: of like a judge. It was a weird judge statement, 147 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: like the cucumber is healthy, but it's not that healthy. 148 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: It's like, okay. It was strange in the context of 149 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: what it was written in because it wasn't just like 150 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: some comment that nobody yet like no blow Joe or whoever. Made. 151 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: It was in an article about cucumbers. I thought it 152 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: was interesting. Um, in two thousand ten, we produced fifty 153 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: seven point five million tons of cucumber around the world. 154 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: As of two thousand five, China accounted for sixty of that, 155 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: followed by Turkey, Russia, Iran, and the US. The largest 156 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: cucumber well, last I checked, I'm not regularly checking these things, 157 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: but last I checked, it was one sixty four pounds 158 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: are about seventy four kilos and at sixty seven inches 159 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: long or one seventies centimeters, that that cucumber is like 160 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: way bigger than me. Oh that's a weird thought. That's 161 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: a weird thought, Like I could comfortably fit inside that cucumber. Oh, 162 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I know, you'd be so cool, cool as a cucumber. 163 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: Perhaps I keep thinking of Pickle Rick. Oh yeah, but 164 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: if he would, if he had been that size, he 165 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: would be like a human size. Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's 166 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: this is going to come back later. Oh absolutely, absolutely right. Okay, 167 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: but people Rick aside for the current moments. For the 168 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: current moment, we're going to get into the history of 169 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: the cucumber. But first we're going to get into a 170 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: quick word from our sponsor and we're back, Thank you sponsor. 171 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: The cucumber got its start in ancient Asia, probably around 172 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: India and the Himalayas, where it had been CULTI waited 173 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: for at least three thousand years. Early cucumbers produced more 174 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: cucurbitisens um than most of our modern varieties. And this 175 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: is a bitter compound that the cucumber makes. Two. Keep 176 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: those pest away. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't taste good, taste 177 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: like toxic. Stay back, stay back, don't eat more on 178 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: that um. Cucumbers got to mention in the legend of 179 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Gilgamesh and was on the product list of the ancient 180 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: error in the sum region of Mesopotamia. As we said 181 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: at the top of the show, the Bible brings up 182 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: the cucumber as one of the foods freely available to 183 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: the slaves in Egypt. Quote we remember the fish which 184 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: we did eat in Egypt freely. The cucumbers and the 185 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: melons and the leaks, and the onions and the garlic. 186 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: There are even stories of making a weak liqueur drink 187 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: from cucumber in the early days by cutting a hole 188 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: in the fruit, stirring up the insides until they were 189 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: all liquid. E plugging up the hole and then bearing 190 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: the cucumber for a couple of days. I mean, if 191 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: anybody wants to give it a let us know how 192 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: it goes. Oh goodness, don't take our advice. No never um. 193 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: According to some sources, the peoples of southeastern Europe in 194 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: areas like Turkey and Bulgaria were producing cucumber around the 195 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: same time as well. Whatever the case, from India, the 196 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: cucumber made the journey most likely with the Romans to Europe. 197 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Ancient Romans were big fans of the crop. Are Old 198 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: pal Plenty the Elder observed that they were a popular 199 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: choice for Emperor Tiberius, who was never without them. Uh. 200 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: He loved them so much that they were grown throughout 201 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the year using artificial methods similar to a greenhouse, to 202 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: make sure that he was never ever minus a cucumber. 203 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: If he wanted a cucumber, he could get his hands 204 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: on one. Roman gardeners would plant them in wooden carts 205 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: so they could be wheeled out in the sun during 206 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: the day and moved inside during the cold winter months. 207 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: They were kept in frames or cucumber houses. They had 208 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: pineapple houses cucumber houses. Yeah, I mean, they're pretty delicate 209 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: like they do best like in in like end of 210 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: warm temperatures. But if they drop below like fifty, they're ruined. 211 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: If they go too high, they're ruined. My my little 212 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: heart is like poor cucumbers, poor delicate cucumbers. Plenty of 213 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: descriptions of these cucumbers more closely resembled that of wild 214 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: cucumbers than what we cultivate these days. They were quite small, 215 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: and of course they were used for medicinal purposes, everything 216 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: from scorpion bites to improved eyesight, um, to the medicinally 217 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: tangential I guess scaring away of mice. Yeah, women wanting 218 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: to get pregnant would wear them strung about their waist. 219 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: I got a very big laugh out of that at 220 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: my desk. Um. Some midwives would carry them too, and 221 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: they would toss the cucumber once the child in question 222 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: was born. And I'm kind of curious, how many people 223 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: do you think we're getting stung by scorpions in this time, 224 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: because it's come up more than once that the food 225 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: is good for like orpian stings, yeah, or are snake bites. 226 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: I think they're just more serious than than they are now. 227 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: Like I suppose that's true. I mean a scorpion staying 228 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: hurts or can. Some of them are deadly. I think 229 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: that's true. Just just amusings that I have about previous 230 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: times and no insecticides. Yeah, there are many reasons why 231 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: the past is a terrible time to have lived, but 232 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: it's true. Scorp I mean, like hats are basically the 233 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: only good thing we can bring back. Hats. I you know, 234 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: the first time I was stung by a scorpion, I 235 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: was four and I put I put my foot my shoe. Yeah, 236 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: you always check your shoes. Oh, I learned a lesson. 237 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I feel like that should be a proverb. I always 238 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: check your shoes. Scorpion may lurk inside. There's a T shirt. Anyway. 239 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: Back to the cucumber as we move into the Middle Ages. 240 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Cucumber first appeared in written records in France in the 241 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: ninth century CE, when Charlemagne decreed that they be rowan 242 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: in his Goden. Some writings from this period suggest that 243 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: cucumbers were introduced to England in the thirteen hundreds lost 244 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: and then reintroduced two and a half centuries later. This 245 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: is because the English had a word for cucumber translated 246 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: literally to earth apple, as far back as ten sixty six, 247 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: which suggests that at least somebody had seen them, or 248 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: maybe they got the idea from the Bible mysteries of history. 249 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: Catherine of Aragon is said to have liked cucumbers and 250 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: her salads I do to Catherine of Aragon in Columbus 251 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: turned Columbus again brought them over to Haiti. When French 252 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: explorer Jacques Cartier arrived to Montreal, he found quote very 253 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: great cucumbers, but historians think he was probably mistaken, given 254 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: that they were such a new crop in the New 255 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: World at the time, the time being fifty five. In 256 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty nine, De Soto wrote um that the cucumbers 257 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: he found in Florida were superior to the ones found 258 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: in Spain. European colonial is introduced them to Africa, too, 259 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: and as more and more trade took place between the 260 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Europeans and the indigenous peoples of the Americas, the cucumber 261 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: was adopted as a crop in the New World, particularly 262 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: with the tribes of the Rocky Mountains and Great Plains. 263 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Several books penned in the sixteen hundreds described cucumbers or 264 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: cowcumbers cowcumbers as they were frequently called at the time. Yeah, 265 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, growing in New England colonies. And I I 266 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: hope that can you indulge me, Lauren and listeners that 267 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: if I found an expert, I'd like to read from 268 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: a six D book how to grow them in the 269 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: America's and the double and tendres just please please do, 270 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: thank you. Cucumbers must be grown to an enormous length. 271 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to have his fruit larger than his neighbors. 272 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: And if it is so long that no dish can 273 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: be found to hold it, so much the better. But 274 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: is there any common sense in this of what you 275 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: saw these young fruits except to make people stare? Are 276 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: they better bearers better seaters? Quite the contrary, they are 277 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: simply longer, too course to suit a cultivated taste. That's 278 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: that is That is a lot. It is, isn't it. 279 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: It goes on, And I like stopped myself from reading 280 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: the entire thing because it it continues. I'm I'm glad 281 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: that we're both twelve. That's that's good. I hope that. 282 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: I hope that you listeners out there are also twelve 283 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: and enjoying that. I hope. So physicians continued espousing the 284 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: health benefits of cucumbers, and because of its high water 285 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: content and retentativeness, the retentatives retentativeness of the water. That's 286 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: fun to say, Cucumbers were thought to never lose their 287 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: cool and that's a quote. Because of this, patients with 288 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: fevers may be treated by a hang on a bed 289 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: of sliced cucumbers in order to become as cool as 290 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: a cucumber. That usage popped up around seventeen thirties. Right, 291 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: we're still using it today, right, that's great. Yes, Eating 292 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: cucumbers three times daily was also believed to be a 293 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: cure for pimples and a reddish nose. Yeah. The inside 294 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: of a cucumber can be as much as twenty degrees 295 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: fahrenheit less than the outside. And that's like out in 296 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: a sunny field. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty impressive. And yeah, 297 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: this is why cucumbers are placed over the eyes at 298 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: places like Spas. For the coolness factor in actual temperature, 299 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: probably cool, man, You probably don't look cool at all. No, 300 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: not really. I mean it's but you're comfortable. It depends 301 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: on your definition. That's true. That's true, Lauren. However, the 302 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: cucumbers public reputation soon fell to the wayside in the 303 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: late sixteen hundreds, thanks in part to a growing distaste 304 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: and prejudice against eating raw fruits and vegetables. This prejudice 305 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: got its roots in several articles appearing in health publications 306 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: claiming that uncooked produce led to disease, it was a 307 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: little better than track, possibly poisonous, and should not be 308 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: fed too children. One article signaled out the cucumber in 309 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: specific as a crop quote fit only for cows. Maybe 310 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: that's where that whole cowcumber thing comes from. That's what 311 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: some historians think. A sixteen sixty three diary have this 312 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: entry on the matter. This day, Sir W. Batton tells 313 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: me that Mr. Newhouse is dead of eating cowcumbers, of 314 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: which the other day I heard of another. I think cucumbers. 315 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Cucumbers poor reputation hung around for quite a while until 316 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century. A company that comes up a lot 317 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: on this show wasn't part to thank for the good 318 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: cucumber pr and restoration of its image. Hines Hines started 319 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: selling pickles in eighteen seventy six. Other companies followed soon after, 320 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: and people got on board with the cucumber again. Yeah. Yeah. 321 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: During his time making their rounds through Asia, Minor Frederick 322 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: Hasselquist stumbled upon the Egyptian Harry cucumber, which he described 323 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: as quote queen of cucumbers, refreshing, sweet, solid, and wholesome, 324 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: and that they quote still form a great part of 325 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: the food of the lower class people in Egypt, serving 326 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: them for meat, drink, and physic interesting. By eighteen o six, 327 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: there were at least eight varieties of cucumbers growing in 328 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: colonial America, and they are a popular garden element to 329 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: this day. They are um I think in um. It 330 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: was named the Year of the Cucumber. Yeah, and it 331 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: is one of the top five fruits. I always want 332 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: to say vegetables, but fruit technically fruit, Yes, grown in 333 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: American gardens, So it's come a long way from the cowcumber. 334 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Although I love that name, I would I. I don't know. 335 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: I feel like there's marketing there to be harnessed. I 336 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: do too, for sure, get on that marketers. Yeah. Something 337 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: else to be possibly harnessed is some of its medicinal powers, 338 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: which related to its burpee powers. It's burpee powers, yes, indeed, 339 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: and more on that. After one more quick break for 340 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor, and we're back thank you sponsor. Yes, 341 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: thank you. So the burping power of cucumbers, it's true, 342 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: it's true. Yes, cucumbers do make some people burp. Some people, Yeah, 343 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: you know, if you're inclined to burpe, might burp if 344 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: you're not. There's been no real scientific studies. I find 345 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: that hard to believe. But there is a group of 346 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: compounds in cucumbers and other related plants called cucurbito sins, 347 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: which Annie mentioned earlier, and they provide some of those 348 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: bitter flavor notes in cucumbers and also make some people burp. Yeah. 349 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: A listener email in about this forever ago, and I 350 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: think it was a very short email and it just said, 351 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: cucumbers actually make you burp? Can you look into this? 352 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, that can't be true. I've never 353 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: really heard of that. But um, here's a here's a 354 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: quote I found from the I think it's the Missouri 355 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: University of Missouri. Non birthless types can be made a 356 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: bit more socially acceptable by cutting off about one inch 357 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: of the stem end and peeling the skin off the fruit. 358 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: And that's true. But most of the cucurbiticons in cucumbers 359 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: are concentrated in the skin and in that that tail 360 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: end or that that stem end of the cucumber um. 361 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: But they're not just in there for like comedy effects. 362 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: In in nature, they do help ward off pests. Many 363 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: creatures avoid bitter flavors because many bitter flavors are toxic. Yeah, 364 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: which means its psychologists say that if you really like 365 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: better flavors, there's something a little bit off about you. 366 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: What's your favorite type of flavor, Lauren, bitter? Oh okay, cool? 367 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: That mild toxicity. Um may cause some people to burp 368 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: after eating cucumber, but it could actually be a bonus 369 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: in the long run. Cucurbitizens may have anti tumor properties, 370 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: so really, yeah, because apparently they're toxic to tumors too, 371 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, more research needs to be done on 372 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, okay, but I got another question. Yeah, 373 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: why do they smell gross to some people? This is 374 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: something I had never heard of, Like I, like, I 375 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: have have lots of experience with the with the great 376 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: debate of whether cilantro is delicious or taste like soap, 377 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: And that's a genetic thing. It is. This is also 378 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: a genetic thing. Um. The compound phenal thio carbamide or PTC, 379 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: which is a much nicer thing to say out loud. 380 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: Um either tastes like super bitter or basically like nothing 381 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: at all, depending on your personal genetic makeup the specific 382 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: gene that creates the physical shape of the taste receptors 383 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: to either be able to detect this or not, or 384 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: something a little bit in between. I was identified in 385 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: two thousand three. Oh wow, yeah, okay, okay, okay, but 386 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: why are cats so danks scared of cucumbers? All right? 387 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: This this is a matter of some debate, but okay, 388 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: either a cats think they're snakes at first, okay, oh sure, 389 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: or be if you plunked basically anything unexpected down behind 390 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: a cat, especially when it's just been eating, it's going 391 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: to be startled. Huh. I mean like if someone quietly 392 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: snuck behind you while you were eating dinner and left 393 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: an object there that's about half as tall as you 394 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: and as thick as your leg, what would you do 395 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: when you got up and turned around? Well, I'm easily startled, 396 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: But okay, this is giving me an idea because there's 397 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: a guy where I'm very easily startled. Annie is I 398 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: basically cannot approach her desk without startling her, which I 399 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: constantly feel bad about but also giggle about a little bit. Yeah, 400 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: there's a like people can slowly approach with their hands 401 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: up and like a surrender I mean no harm position, 402 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: and I will like jump back into the wall. That's 403 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: literally what I usually do. Yeah. Um, but there's a 404 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: guy at work who likes to prank me. He likes 405 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: to scare me, he likes to startle me. He sits, 406 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: he stands, we have standing does across from me Chandler, 407 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: and I think I'm going to just put a cucumber 408 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: behind him because it's weird. It won't scare him. It's weird. See, 409 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: I was I was picturing as I was writing this. 410 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: I was picturing Pickle Rick. I was like, what if 411 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: like an enlarged version of Pickle Rick was just standing 412 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: behind you. That would scare me when you got done eating, 413 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: I'd be real scared. Pickle Rick is terrifying. I love 414 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: Rick and Morty. I never want to meet Rick, especially 415 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: not in pickle format. No fun fact, I would say 416 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: that was the most popular costume that Dragon Con last week. 417 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, Yeah, I saw a really good one. They 418 00:25:53,800 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: were Pickle Rick's abound But um, anyway, cats and cucumbers, don't. 419 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: Don't do that to your cat. Man. Don't do things 420 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: to your pets to startle them on purpose. It's impolite. 421 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and I know that cats don't have a 422 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: concept of rudeness. Actually they do their heck and rude, 423 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: they totally do. But but but they don't understand the 424 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: humor in the situation, and it's just stressing them out. Nice. 425 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: Be nice to your pets. Yeah, always be nice to 426 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: your pets. Chandler, however, has it coming. Chandler is a 427 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: way less innocent than a cat. So I can't wait 428 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: to do this. I'm very excited. We'll need to film it, okay, yes, uh. 429 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: And this more or less brings us to the end 430 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: of our Cucumber episode. It does, indeed, and it brings 431 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: us to listen. Yeah, yeah, cool. It's probably the opposite 432 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: of cool. Not as cool as a cucumber, No, not 433 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: that cool, uncool as what's an uncool food? It had 434 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: to be a hot food. These are questionable, flaming hot cheetos. 435 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: I just pointed to Dylan, he's just cheetos. Dylan is 436 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: ready Oh oh a bird um. A little peek behind 437 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: the podcast Curtains listeners. We Lauren and I do kind 438 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: of take a commercial break during the like my ole 439 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: for a quick word from our sponsor. Yeah, we we 440 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: take we take a minute or two to kind of unwind. Yeah, 441 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and we discuss things. And we found out during one 442 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: of these ad breaks that superproducer Dylan really doesn't like cucumbers. Yeah, 443 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: you caught them like evil, like stringently dislikes. I would 444 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: say yes, and he just said uncool as a cucumber. Yeah, 445 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: that was a burn, cucumber burn. Um. I you know, 446 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: I like cucumbers in the summer. I have a specific 447 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: time where I'm really into cucumbers and then I'm kind 448 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: of like, I really I really like like cucumber and 449 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: tomato salads. Yeah that's what. Yeah, my mom makes that. 450 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: She makes relish every summer and it's just like vinegar, 451 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: tomatoes and cucumbers. M hm hm. Now I want that. 452 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: I didn't think cucumber episode was gonna make me hungry, 453 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: but now I want that, all right? Moving on, Paul wrote, 454 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: just finished listening to your Bourbon talking Wild Turkey and 455 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: was interested in the part about the Bourbon passport. You 456 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: were dismaye that you had not learned about it sooner 457 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: had missed getting your passport stamped at some of some 458 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: of the earlier distilleries. There's hope. According to k why 459 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: Bourbon Trail dot Com slash passport under the section what 460 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: do I get for completing my passport, it says forget 461 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: to grab a stamp at one of the stops, no problem. 462 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: If you have photos or receipts from your visit, you'll 463 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: be good to go. I'd say, you have enough evidence 464 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: that you were at the stops you said you were. 465 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: I would say, so we did a whole podcast. Unless 466 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: you really want to repeat the experience, I'd say that 467 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: either way would be delightful. But that's really good to 468 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: know it is. It's very that's great. That's fantastic that 469 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: that is a policy that they have, because, like I've said, 470 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: probably more than I should have. There's a free T 471 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: shirt involved, So this is a serious business. It is. 472 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: Tyler wrote, I want your opinion on this whole I 473 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: Hub International House of Burgers versus i Hop International House 474 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: of Pancakes to bait. Apparently it's only temporary, but I 475 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: don't care. The closest Eyehop to me is a good 476 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: thirty minutes or so. Yet there is a burger king 477 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: in McDonald's five minutes from my house. There's even a 478 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: five guys ten minutes from my house. As you can see, 479 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: I get a good burger in a fraction of the 480 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: time it takes me to get to eye hoop. I 481 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: really just want pancakes in a side of bacon. Is 482 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: that so hard? What do you guys think about this? 483 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: Are you on board with the whole I hob thing 484 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: or do you think they should stick to breakfast? I, 485 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: for one thing, they should stick to breakfast. Not a 486 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of good breakfast places near me, and if there is, 487 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: I haven't tried them or didn't like them. Please write 488 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: back so I can hear your thoughts. Long live pancakes. Indeed, indeed, 489 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: I have to say I love Tyler that you wrote. 490 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we are food superheroes and we're being 491 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: called in to weigh on this, on this situation, on 492 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: this matter of extreme import Yes, yeah, I was delighted 493 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: to get this email. Goodness, absolutely, yeah, thank thank you, 494 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: thank you UM for interesting us with the kind of 495 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: opinion that this is. I think it's a terrible but 496 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: effective marketing ploy. Yeah, you used to work in marketing, 497 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: didn't you learn oh, very briefly, I we don't talk 498 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, oh no, no no, no, it's no, it's fine. 499 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: I was just really bad at it. So actually, like 500 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: like I don't have expertise in the area to be 501 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: like that's ineffective. Okay, there is a finger wagging gesture 502 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: that that came along with that sentence. If you guys 503 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: couldn't hear it happening in the background. I mean, I 504 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: think it's it's annoying people, yea, and that in general, 505 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Annoying people is not my favorite way to be marketed to. Um. However, 506 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: annoying things do garner attention. I mean, like we're talking 507 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: about it right now. So yeah, people were like a flutter. 508 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: What could the be mean? It's brunch, it's breakfast, And 509 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: then it was burger burgers, and everyone's like, go back 510 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: to being breakfast. So they're keeping their breakfast. I after 511 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: after we received this email, I checked, the menu isn't changing. 512 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: They're really just focusing on a few of these burger 513 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: selections that they have that they think are real good. 514 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: A reporter from Business Insider went out to lunch and 515 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: had a couple of them. He said, they were great, okay, 516 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: he she Yeah, Um, I mean I I remember reading 517 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: all the hubbub around this that they like serve seventy 518 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: people before three pm, So I thought maybe they were 519 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: trying to like get more people to come for non 520 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: breakfast dinner. Did you can have breakfast whenever you can? 521 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I I too think that it was both 522 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: foolish but also yeah, people are talking about I mean, 523 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I hop was the 524 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: topic of conversation. Yeah. Absolutely, so good for them. Yeah, 525 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: but get your burgers wherever you want, y'all absolutely, get 526 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: your pancakes wherever you want. Oh man, Yeah, definitely. I 527 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: used to I am a person who has many a nickname, 528 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: and in college one of my nicknames was Blueberry, and 529 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: it's because I love blueberries. And I remember a late 530 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: night studying and we all went out to eye Hoop 531 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: and I ordered blue double blueberry pancakes with blueberry syrup atop, 532 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: and people like you really like blueberkir like, all right, 533 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: blueberry sort of. And now I know more about Willy Wonka, 534 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know, maybe I should retire 535 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: Blueberry's a nickname. Oh no, it's fine, it's delightful. Okay, 536 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: thank you, Lauren, but I hop was one of the 537 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: only places you could get blueberry syrup. Yeah. Anyway, I 538 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: hope that we didn't let you down on our Our 539 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: superhero powers are food powers. Tyler. Yeah, but we we 540 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: need like a we need like a food stuff signal. 541 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: We do want it be pancakes, pineapple. I'm not sure. Oh, 542 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: I do like that? Right in, right in and let 543 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: us know, yes, um, if you would like to do that. 544 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: Our email is food Stuff at how stuff works dot com, 545 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: or you can get in touch with us on social 546 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: media platforms of various kinds. On Twitter and Facebook, we 547 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: are food Stuff. Hs w over. 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