Speaker 1: Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the
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Speaker 1: We're answering your burning questions. How long did it take
Speaker 1: you and Will's ex wife to get to the place
Speaker 1: you are now? Bitch you living in a house I
Speaker 1: picked out? That's some cold Willow. Did you ever feel
Speaker 1: like you needed to defend your parents for any untrue
Speaker 1: things in the press. Yeah, I felt like that all
Speaker 1: the time. When someone called child Protective Services, that was
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever got furious. Plus Jordan's said
Speaker 1: she would take a lie detector test my friends, and
Speaker 1: I really want to know if she did. That's the
Speaker 1: show that I get asked about the most welcome. One
Speaker 1: of the best parts of doing our t T is
Speaker 1: the connection that we feel with you guys. So today
Speaker 1: is a special RTT. We are turning the tables. We're
Speaker 1: gonna answer your questions and no topic is off limits.
Speaker 1: So let's get right to it. Let's do it. Our
Speaker 1: first question today, Jessica in Seattle. Seeing you at the
Speaker 1: Red Table with Will's ex wife, Sharie was life changing.
Speaker 1: Thanks to you, my ex husband and I will be
Speaker 1: spending Christmas together for the first time in seven years.
Speaker 1: How long did it take you and Shari to get
Speaker 1: to the place you are now? All that makes me teary?
Speaker 1: I love that. That's good and there was a journey.
Speaker 1: It's not easy, you know. We went through some really
Speaker 1: tough times. Very few times in my life. I can
Speaker 1: recall being checked real hard. I have nothing to say.
Speaker 1: You did that I did, but you weren't not a line.
Speaker 1: You picked up the phone and I wasn't really respectful.
Speaker 1: Trey was at the house. I'm calling to talk to Tray,
Speaker 1: but I had to go through you to get to him. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you basically let me know I don't really appreciate
Speaker 1: your tone, and I was like, I don't ain't nomatic
Speaker 1: and you hung up on me. I called back and
Speaker 1: I happened to say, quote, bitch, you living in the
Speaker 1: house I picked out. You said, it's my house. Now,
Speaker 1: that's some I want you to know. Will Smith let
Speaker 1: me have it. What was his take? His take was,
Speaker 1: that is trays mother, and that's just not your place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a movie. That's like a movie scene. It took years.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been twenty some years for us to
Speaker 1: get to a place where we can see each other.
Speaker 1: There's no buttons, we see each other. It's all system.
Speaker 1: I actually thought about that too, because I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder how long it actually took me too to
Speaker 1: get to a place of acceptance and openness. However long
Speaker 1: it was, I feel like it was probably too long,
Speaker 1: you know. I wish that it had come sooner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you come from that generation. It's like once you get divorced,
Speaker 1: that's it. I think you're you pik Holidays, big week,
Speaker 1: and that's it. You go over there and now I'll
Speaker 1: go back to us. Yeah, we've only gotten closer, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just so great. I love me so much. And
Speaker 1: she taught me how to make right yeah, because she
Speaker 1: cooks so well. She does. And we'll be spending Christmas
Speaker 1: together this year, you know. But it's difficult to put
Speaker 1: the children first, put all of that astult mess aside,
Speaker 1: and make the children your priority. And I've not had
Speaker 1: to deal with it because I purposely purposely dated men
Speaker 1: that did not have children. Right. Well, you knew what
Speaker 1: you could have, So that's actually smart. I actually more
Speaker 1: because I'm always like, you knew the guy had or
Speaker 1: the woman had exactly, So what did you expect that
Speaker 1: that person was just going to leave their family behind?
Speaker 1: So anybody that would do that, they're gonna they could
Speaker 1: do that to you. Totally. I didn't want to have
Speaker 1: to deal with a whole lot of baby mama drama
Speaker 1: and all of that. I just didn't want it. I
Speaker 1: just didn't want it. The most difficult part was week
Speaker 1: He told me he was introducing you to Tray and
Speaker 1: I said, no, I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, it's happening, you know. So Trey
Speaker 1: comes home. I said, how did you like miss Jada?
Speaker 1: He said, I really liked her. Mommy, oh my god,
Speaker 1: thank you for loving my baby. Yeah, that makes me
Speaker 1: want to cry. We're all cried. Yeah, how about not cry?
Speaker 1: It's not easy. The one thing that I will say
Speaker 1: is that the next generation, the grand babies, will get
Speaker 1: a better version. Because you guys got the working out version.
Speaker 1: We didn't have really any examples. We had to figure
Speaker 1: out and figure out the tools. What it really takes
Speaker 1: is you having the desire to make it happen. The
Speaker 1: three of us really wanted it. Yes, all right, So
Speaker 1: next question, my best friend is pushing her boyfriend for
Speaker 1: a really huge Valenhein's date wedding, and I'm just afraid
Speaker 1: that they don't know each other very well. Jada, I
Speaker 1: know you and will have been married for twenty years.
Speaker 1: Any advice America is probably gonna hate me for saying this,
Speaker 1: but I feel like weddings, the way that weddings are
Speaker 1: set up right now, the way that that celebration is
Speaker 1: set up, is such the wrong start to a marriage.
Speaker 1: The wedding celebration now is something you should have after
Speaker 1: you've gone through forty Do you get to like twenty
Speaker 1: years and even twenty years okay? Or or if not that,
Speaker 1: here's what I think you should be doing. You, you
Speaker 1: and your partner, if you survive an amazing race. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys, have three or four days in the jungle
Speaker 1: the trenches together, you make it to that finished line,
Speaker 1: and you still want to get married. Now we can
Speaker 1: have a ceremony. Now we can have a ceremony, I
Speaker 1: because that is a let me tell you, that sets
Speaker 1: up a fantasy that you can that marriage to maintain.
Speaker 1: I get that that that's a you ain't gonna maintain
Speaker 1: it well, but hopefully you've been challenges before you get
Speaker 1: to that day. Not enough that some people want to
Speaker 1: get married just to have that day. Yeah, And for me,
Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons why I didn't want
Speaker 1: a wedding day. I knew from the gate when I
Speaker 1: was getting into it, I knew that wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: a cake in the walk in the park. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say cake in the park, park walking apart. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be easy, all right. Just because it's not easy
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's not a journey to be worthy journey.
Speaker 1: It's a worthy journey. It takes a lot of work, though,
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of ego deaths, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of unwinding. How you have been conditioned to relate to
Speaker 1: relating the fight with our relationship partners more than we
Speaker 1: fight with anyone else. But here's the thing, and intimate reationships,
Speaker 1: it does because in intimate relationships you come across your
Speaker 1: deepest traumas. I mean, they hit right on the button.
Speaker 1: So there's so much learning to be had there. And
Speaker 1: that and that's really how I look at my relationship
Speaker 1: with your father. All I'm saying is that starting your
Speaker 1: journey that way is a is A is a huge center. Okay,
Speaker 1: next question, Willow, I have a question. Do you ever
Speaker 1: feel like you need to defend your parents when there
Speaker 1: are rumors and the press about them? Yeah? I felt
Speaker 1: like that all the time, when they would say things like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're letting their kids do this, and I would be like, well,
Speaker 1: would you rather them allow their kids to express themselves
Speaker 1: and find themselves or just be controlling? And then we
Speaker 1: just end up doing drugs and being on TMC and
Speaker 1: being sad, And when people thought that you guys were
Speaker 1: getting just so much. I don't understand how people can
Speaker 1: write this stuff. It's just not true. And I can
Speaker 1: just be remember being very very upset and telling you
Speaker 1: that you should sue them, you need to sue them,
Speaker 1: it's not true, and just carrying it on and you
Speaker 1: were like, my, it's just not worth it. Oh when
Speaker 1: someone called ch'all protective services and I remember, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was I was like, wow, when did that come out?
Speaker 1: That story about child protective I can't even think, Willow,
Speaker 1: was what were you were you fourteen, I think so.
Speaker 1: I think it's started with that home bisless thing. We
Speaker 1: took a picture and Moises had his shirt off. The
Speaker 1: boys basically lived with us, so they like her brother
Speaker 1: Columbians like these boys are always in this. There was
Speaker 1: no sexual intonation in that picture whatsoever. But I find
Speaker 1: that other celebrities, females who aren't black, who are younger
Speaker 1: and who do post things that are way more sexual
Speaker 1: than that, get away with it. They don't get any backlash.
Speaker 1: And that was what was That's that to me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not a lot. That was the first time I've
Speaker 1: ever got furious because of you. But not only that,
Speaker 1: it just was one of those blatant moments that you
Speaker 1: just blatantly difference. There's something about black skin and anything sexual,
Speaker 1: anything considered you know what I mean, and the fact
Speaker 1: that what's considered sexual if you have black skin inappropriate
Speaker 1: exactly white. I was looking at the lady and the
Speaker 1: whole time I was thinking, you could be helping so
Speaker 1: many kids right now, and you're wasting your time with
Speaker 1: a child who has everything that they need. The woman
Speaker 1: that was on our case, she was a nice lady,
Speaker 1: she's good, She actually know my kids were like whatever,
Speaker 1: that's how they treated it, and Jane and both and
Speaker 1: there was nothing will and I could do nothing. We
Speaker 1: were just like, please chill out. And they were like, no,
Speaker 1: this is stupid and it's ridiculous. It was like their
Speaker 1: personal protest. The way they were conducting these interviews was
Speaker 1: literally like what are you doing here? Yeah? We were gangster,
Speaker 1: don't these kids. I was like, listen, I need for y'all,
Speaker 1: need your best your best behavior when I tell you,
Speaker 1: it was the complete opposite. And I was sitting there
Speaker 1: like I cannot believe this. I'd be like these kids
Speaker 1: right here, that's when you get the backlash of giving
Speaker 1: your kids their individuality. I was just like, please, y'all chill.
Speaker 1: I was eating in the interview o'clock in the afternoon
Speaker 1: because I knew. Because I knew, went a bowl of cereal.
Speaker 1: And the woman was like because I She was like, no,
Speaker 1: I just got up. This is like my breakfast, playing games. Okay,
Speaker 1: playing games. I was like, they already think we're starving you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna walk in with a bowl of cereals your
Speaker 1: first meal. I was like, Lord Jesus would taking little
Speaker 1: I walked in with with a bowl of cereals, specifically
Speaker 1: because I knew that they said you were starving me,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: walk in with food and I'm gonna eat the entire time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat throughout the entire interview. But I said,
Speaker 1: I said, these kids get it honestly. They get it honestly,
Speaker 1: because that is definitely something Will and I would have
Speaker 1: done back at the day if that was the moment
Speaker 1: that I feel like we really locked up together as
Speaker 1: a family. It was like a crisis, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we're getting a tax. So the kids
Speaker 1: got to see for the first time why Will and
Speaker 1: I have been so protective. Be careful who you talk to,
Speaker 1: be careful who you hang with, watch yourself because people
Speaker 1: say things and people, you know, people try to hurt you.
Speaker 1: And they saw they were like oh oh, and so
Speaker 1: then I got to see the soldiers in them. So
Speaker 1: Carly and San Francisco, have you ever had anyone at
Speaker 1: the Red Table that you click with so much that
Speaker 1: they became your new friends? After yes, yes, I'd have
Speaker 1: to say Talula and we started talking after the show
Speaker 1: and I got our numbers. We ended up going to
Speaker 1: get some dinner rumor scouting to me came to your birthday.
Speaker 1: It was really good and we had some awesome conversations
Speaker 1: and just to connect with them outside of the table.
Speaker 1: When the show ended with Demi and her beautiful daughters,
Speaker 1: we kept talking and here's a little more of the
Speaker 1: conversation that you haven't seen, where t Lula opens up
Speaker 1: about being the daughter of Bruce and did me more.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can relate to this, but
Speaker 1: growing up the way that we did, um, I felt
Speaker 1: that we weren't allowed to have pain and problems because
Speaker 1: we had so much and I've struggled with it my
Speaker 1: entire life. Um, and so I also didn't or other
Speaker 1: people don't believe that, don't believe. You're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is and then they're like, ha, you have it all.
Speaker 1: There's no prom and you're like, okay, you don't. Being
Speaker 1: criticized at a much higher level to and you can't
Speaker 1: really share about it because it's like I know that
Speaker 1: she would have killed me. Yeah, Like who do you
Speaker 1: share this with? The first thing they're gonna go to is, oh,
Speaker 1: your mom is who You'll never know what we feel like,
Speaker 1: that's right, you'll never know what it's like to be
Speaker 1: born into a world where people know about you and
Speaker 1: comment about you, and that that is pain in it.
Speaker 1: We set at the table for a long time. That
Speaker 1: was one of my favorites. I really got a joy
Speaker 1: out of seeing you Rumor and Tulula have that camaraderie
Speaker 1: and have somebody who kind of understands why. That was
Speaker 1: the first time, yeah, that I had ever talked to
Speaker 1: I mean, besides my brother's like anyone who has grown
Speaker 1: up like me in a deep like like really talking
Speaker 1: about like what's the problems here exactly? And the first
Speaker 1: time and then that's a safe space for for all
Speaker 1: of you expressed that to each other, So that that
Speaker 1: made meself feel that felt good right to be able
Speaker 1: to just talk and feel a level of comfort. There's
Speaker 1: been so many times where I've had the fear of like, oh,
Speaker 1: like if I open up in this area, what if
Speaker 1: this gets out into the media, or what if what
Speaker 1: if I think this person is like, oh, really feeling me,
Speaker 1: but then they're recording me on their phone and that's
Speaker 1: it's real and it's hard because and even for me
Speaker 1: as an adult, you know, you you want to believe
Speaker 1: that people want to be your friend because they like you.
Speaker 1: I want people to want to be my friend because
Speaker 1: I'm Adrian, right. I don't want them to want to
Speaker 1: be my friend, oh because I'm Jada's mom and I'm
Speaker 1: one red Table And I know there's some of that
Speaker 1: I and I understand that too. I think finding sincere
Speaker 1: friends it's hard for everybody, you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: that that's just specific to you. Need. It's just so
Speaker 1: hard for people to find genuine friendship. Yeah, it's really difficult,
Speaker 1: no matter who you are, no matter who you are. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: next question, So Sam from Detroit, I have a question
Speaker 1: for Willow. When was it that you realized that your
Speaker 1: dad was the Fresh Prince of bel Air. That's a
Speaker 1: good question. Is actually like it was a gradual, like oh,
Speaker 1: when we go out, like people are looking at us
Speaker 1: and like people like are really excited. And when was
Speaker 1: the first time you watched Fresh Prince? How old were you?
Speaker 1: Because I remember you going, oh, my goodness, that shows
Speaker 1: so funny, like last year I watched the whole thing,
Speaker 1: right and the whole series. Yeah, and I didn't realized
Speaker 1: because at first I was like, oh, I knew it
Speaker 1: was funny. And I knew people thought it was amazing,
Speaker 1: but like when I watched it, the writing, it was
Speaker 1: so beautiful and so amazing, and because it was funny,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of commentary. Yeah, but that's why
Speaker 1: I remember you going, oh my goodness, mom, the fresh
Speaker 1: princess genius, and I'm like, oh, you're just figuring that out,
Speaker 1: just figuring that Yeah, so that was last year, so
Speaker 1: you had to be eighteens. So next question during the
Speaker 1: Jordan Woods episode, Jordan's said she would take a lie
Speaker 1: detector test my friends, and I really want to know
Speaker 1: if she did. Right, asked me straight up, Okay, did
Speaker 1: you sleep with Tristan? Never? Never thought, never consideration never happened.
Speaker 1: It never would I And that's why I'm willing to
Speaker 1: be put up to the tests attached me to a
Speaker 1: lie detective, whatever it is. I need people to know
Speaker 1: the truth, and more importantly, I need the people involved
Speaker 1: to know the truth. Got it? Mm hm. That was
Speaker 1: a deep show. It was It was a deep show.
Speaker 1: I'm super proud of her. I learned a lot about her.
Speaker 1: She and I have gotten much closer than I actually
Speaker 1: had some healing with her mother and that was great too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can we Abby is Abbey? Is that what's happening? That
Speaker 1: is the problem with filming in your house? That's funny
Speaker 1: that Abby started gradu We could we could have this
Speaker 1: conversation because she wasn't here for the show. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: answer is yes, Jordans did take a lot of detective
Speaker 1: tests and it was arranged. It was Jordan's request. What
Speaker 1: was her request even be here? Yeah, it was her
Speaker 1: request to be here, and it was her request to
Speaker 1: take the live detective test, and we had forensic polygraphs
Speaker 1: with more than twenty five years of experience in criminal
Speaker 1: and civil investigations. Well you know, well now at the time,
Speaker 1: it really it wasn't for this show. It was for
Speaker 1: her and for people that she loves. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: a new thing for me and you, as far as
Speaker 1: being on the camera, usually do it pretty secretive, so
Speaker 1: I don't even know your last name, to be honest, Woods, okay, Woods, Okay,
Speaker 1: how did you end up coming here to do the
Speaker 1: polygraph today? Like? What are you hoping to get out
Speaker 1: of it? I just want everyone to know that I'm
Speaker 1: telling the truth, and that's the most important part of
Speaker 1: the story to me, is the truth. All we do
Speaker 1: in the polygraph is we record the hardship on you
Speaker 1: when you purposely lie. It's very hard on the body
Speaker 1: when you lie. Telling the truth is very easy. And
Speaker 1: we do do a lot of tests where I feel
Speaker 1: that the other person should be tested as well. This
Speaker 1: is an important test for you, and it's something that
Speaker 1: you want, obviously, um, you know, to come in and do,
Speaker 1: and you're volunteering to do it, and you're putting yourself
Speaker 1: in front of a lot of people right to do
Speaker 1: the test, and so that takes a lot of courage
Speaker 1: to come in and do it. So let me, Um,
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have you turn
Speaker 1: the chair this way. Yeah. So the path that you're
Speaker 1: sitting on is called a motion sensor because there are
Speaker 1: a certain part of the population that comes in and
Speaker 1: tries to cheat on the test. Part of the cheating
Speaker 1: what they do is they'll move around, do secret movements.
Speaker 1: And so now we have to have someone sit on
Speaker 1: the motion pad. So if you even move at all,
Speaker 1: it will show up on the screen. And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna wrap this around your waist first, okay, So lean
Speaker 1: forward just a tiny bit and this will go right here,
Speaker 1: just like that. Perfect, and this just takes regular blood pressure.
Speaker 1: We do not pump it up as much as they
Speaker 1: do in the hospital. Please remain as still as you
Speaker 1: can and listen carefully to the questions that I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask you. So are you ready to do your polygraph? Yes?
Speaker 1: Are you now in the state of California? Yes? Are
Speaker 1: you currently sitting down? Yes? Did you have sexual intercourse
Speaker 1: with Tristan Thompson? No? Alright, this concludes the test. Please
Speaker 1: hold stone. So I released the pressure from your own cuff.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you are all done with everything. Jordan
Speaker 1: thought you did a fantastic job and you definitely passed.
Speaker 1: And I believe you're being truthful on the test. And
Speaker 1: she passed with flying colors. I'm real proud that she
Speaker 1: did that. And the thing that is so important to me,
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to blame it on
Speaker 1: social media or anything like that, but I do want
Speaker 1: to say that people pass judgment when they don't have
Speaker 1: all the information, and people get a little bit of
Speaker 1: that and you know, and and just run with it.
Speaker 1: And what I'm so happy about or proud of Jordan's
Speaker 1: is that she was able to take something that could
Speaker 1: have been disastrous, you know, because this could have destroyed
Speaker 1: her reputation and her career, you know, and she didn't
Speaker 1: allow that to happen. She came in and she she
Speaker 1: told the story, because what happens is you get her story,
Speaker 1: their story, and then there's the truth. So what we
Speaker 1: hope is that at some point in time, the truth,
Speaker 1: all the whole truth, actually comes out for real, because
Speaker 1: there were a lot of untruths that were put out there,
Speaker 1: and one of them was about the fact that there
Speaker 1: wasn't an apology from Jordan's right right right right right
Speaker 1: from the text messages that I saw that that is
Speaker 1: not necessarily the case, got it, So don't be ending
Speaker 1: this out of the show, because that's important, right, I
Speaker 1: hear you, yam okay, don't make me have to come
Speaker 1: to the editing. No, I hear you, you know, And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying, no, I get it. I
Speaker 1: get it. That's why we're going to talk about it,
Speaker 1: you know. And let's be honest. It taught me a
Speaker 1: lot just watching the whole thing and just understanding there's
Speaker 1: always more. It's always there's always more to the story.
Speaker 1: So you gotta be careful how you judge no matter
Speaker 1: what exactly, no matter what you hear, no matter what's
Speaker 1: out there, there's always more. Why are you pointing the
Speaker 1: pointing the thing? And it's three fingers pointing back at you.
Speaker 1: And because somebody get Willow, she's probably put Abby upstairs? Willow.
Speaker 1: It's Abby, Okay, she was she let me tell you.
Speaker 1: She's just here's my voice and it's like she wants
Speaker 1: to be where you are. Yeah, well this was good. Guys.
Speaker 1: We've had many, many experience on this show, but when
Speaker 1: you like sit down and talk about each one, it's
Speaker 1: really nice to remember his life is about healing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and learning how to love and accept ourselves more deeply
Speaker 1: and um, having compassion, just to be better for sure.
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