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Speaker 1: Ron Anian, It takes a village to raise a child,

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Speaker 1: it really does. It's it's our responsibility as elders, as

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Speaker 1: the old folks, as I as I call this. You know,

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Speaker 1: we've got to pass things down, our wisdom, right, our

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Speaker 1: hard earned sweat equity of.

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Speaker 2: Life, you know, down to the next generation. They've got

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Speaker 2: to be willing to listen.

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Speaker 3: My dad is.

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Speaker 2: Car, and let daddy's car, the car doctor. Let's say

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Speaker 2: you look it up and your car's worth five your

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Speaker 2: car is really worth sixty five because you don't have

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Speaker 2: to put the fifteen hundred into it. If you can

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Speaker 2: get the five four it in the shape that it's

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Speaker 2: in without tires, memory, the only go to like two

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Speaker 2: hundred bounds them out. Maybe two fifty. Yeah, I've seen

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 3: the phone and call in the garage doors are opening, But.

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Speaker 2: I am here to take falls at eight five five

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Speaker 2: five six, ninety nine hundred and now pee.

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Speaker 3: Running.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to auto repair order repair one on one

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Speaker 2: as it is some days. Let's get the groad doors open.

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Speaker 2: Let's go right to David and Iowa. The phones are

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Speaker 2: real busy right now this hour. David, Iowa fourteen serou Forester,

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Speaker 2: How can I help you?

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Speaker 4: Sir?

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Speaker 5: Bye?

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Speaker 6: When I take my super Forester out on a road

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Speaker 6: trip within five hundred miles, I have to add oil

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Speaker 6: to it. It consumes oil.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: If I'm in town and I drive it for five

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Speaker 6: thousand miles, not a bit of oil is consumed. So

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Speaker 6: I'm wondering what's the deal with consuming the oil during

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Speaker 6: road trips because.

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Speaker 2: It's under a higher load. All right, You're you're probably

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Speaker 2: out on the highway at what sixty five seventy miles

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Speaker 2: an hour faster, yes, higher crank case pressure. You're pushing

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Speaker 2: oil up past somewhere that it doesn't want to go.

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Speaker 2: How many miles are on this one hundred.

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Speaker 6: And twenty thousand. But it's been doing this for about

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Speaker 6: five years or so.

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Speaker 2: And I've I've seen some of the thirteens, fourteens, and fifteens.

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Speaker 2: It seems to be a chronic problem with them. If

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Speaker 2: memory serves me correct. They have it. They have a

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Speaker 2: low tension ring problem that Subru never seemed to be

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Speaker 2: able to fix. I've had more than a few customers

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Speaker 2: have this as a complaint back to Subaru, and some

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Speaker 2: of them actually got rid of the vehicles. They couldn't

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Speaker 2: deal with it, that it was an internal problem. Have

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Speaker 2: you been to your mechanic or Suberru to talk to

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Speaker 2: them about it? Have they done any oil analysis or

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Speaker 2: I had any other sort of testing. You know, if

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Speaker 2: the answer came back to you'd have to overhaul the engine,

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Speaker 2: would you do it? Uh?

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Speaker 5: Probably not.

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Speaker 6: I'd probably look for something other than a Subaru Forester, right.

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: The other thing, you know, you've always got to consider.

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Speaker 2: We could diagnose it crank case ventilation. You know, does

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Speaker 2: the engine breathe properly if you pull the dipstick up

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Speaker 2: out a little bit out of the breather tube or

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, out of the dipstick tube so that the

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Speaker 2: engine breathes a little better and take it out on

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Speaker 2: the highway. Does that relieve crank case pressure and prevent

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Speaker 2: the prevent it from burning oil. You could try that.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty simple and basic to do. You know, the

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Speaker 2: idea is. You know, keep in mind when you when

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Speaker 2: in the cylinder, and then when it comes down it's

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Speaker 2: pressurizing the crank case. If the crank case can't breathe properly,

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Speaker 2: I either's too much pressure in it. It either starts

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Speaker 2: to push oil out past seals. That's that's why seals

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Speaker 2: the piston's going up on compression, if the rings are worn,

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Speaker 2: it will allow the crank case to be pressurized. So

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Speaker 2: sometimes you know, popping the dipstick out a little bit

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Speaker 2: an effect too. I'm not saying it'll work, but it's

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Speaker 2: know you're looking at you know, as long as crank

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Speaker 2: case ventilation is proper, then you're you're looking at some

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Speaker 2: sort of internal engine repair. And at that age in mileage,

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Speaker 2: you're just talking about putting an engine in it. There's

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Speaker 2: there's really not much else not uncommonable.

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Speaker 6: How do I keep that, uh, the dipstick while I'm

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Speaker 6: operating the vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Well, it'll probably sit up by itself, all right, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it doesn't take a lot if if you find

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's I'm not saying it's got to

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Speaker 2: be you know, it's got to be up out of

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Speaker 2: the tube. So it's unsealed, all right, just enough for

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Speaker 2: it to breathe, all right, you know, if you find

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Speaker 2: that that does work. You know, do you know what

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Speaker 2: a hemostat is? You know, the things doctors use to

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Speaker 2: pinch off your veins and arteries when they're doing surgery.

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Speaker 2: You'll see them, Uh yeah, you'll. You'll you'll see them

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Speaker 2: in hardware stores. You'll you'll see them in different places.

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Speaker 2: Just get yourself a tiny pair of hemostats, let a

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Speaker 2: grip of dipstick, and you know, just pinch it around

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Speaker 2: the dipstick. It'll hold it up high enough and it

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Speaker 2: shouldn't fall out because the bulk of it is still

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Speaker 2: down in the tube. But again, let's let's prove. Does

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Speaker 2: you know is crank case pressure part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, anytime somebody comes to me with that

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Speaker 2: highway speed. You know, it's not that it's on the

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Speaker 2: highway how fast do you drive on the highway David, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, just for giggles, have you tried doing fifty

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Speaker 2: fifty five? You know? Does it vary with engine speed

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Speaker 6: Be I think it does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, So that tells me, you know that

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Speaker 2: it's if it was valve train, I E. Valve guides,

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Speaker 2: valve seals something in that area, it would do it

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Speaker 2: regardless around town highway speed and load. The variable here

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Speaker 2: load of the vehicle. So that's why it comes back

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Speaker 2: to its internal engine and crank case pressure.

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Speaker 6: Is it possible it has anything to do with the PCVS?

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Speaker 2: Sure, that's that's positive crank case ventilation. That's that's crank

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Speaker 2: case vent So that's just what we're talking about. So

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Speaker 2: because I'm assuming that you're you've checked that or somebody's

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Speaker 2: checking that to make sure the crank case does breathe properly.

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Speaker 2: So we just had a customer who races BMW's in

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Speaker 2: he was telling me about that, and I said, pop

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Speaker 2: released crank case pressure just enough to take the load

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Speaker 2: off the seal and let you get through the race

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Speaker 2: seat and keep wiping out the clutch. You know, let's

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Speaker 2: look at simple before we look at complicated. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: so let me know what happens. Yes, sir, you're very welcome.

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Speaker 2: Let's wander over and talk to Greg and Florida ninety

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Speaker 2: five Chevy Caprice. Yes, Greg, how can I help Ron

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Speaker 2: and Andy? And at your service?

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Speaker 4: Yes, good afternoon, thanks for taking my call. I've got

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Speaker 4: a this ninety five Chevy Caprice Classic. Okay, it's give

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Speaker 4: me a engine check like intermitt, and it doesn't stay

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Speaker 4: on all the time. I've tried to pull a code

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Speaker 4: and it won't give me a code. So what does

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Speaker 4: There's no performance issues with it. It works fine, all right?

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Speaker 2: What what what type of connector are you trying to

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Speaker 2: get into under the dash? Is it? Is it a

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Speaker 2: trapezoid looking sixteen pin connector or is it a rectangular

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Speaker 4: I think it's the trapezoid.

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Speaker 2: Right, So this is a Because ob D two started

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Speaker 2: full bore in ninety six and the only if that

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Speaker 2: is an ob D two vehicle. See ninety five and

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Speaker 2: ninety six are the two hardest years to get diagnostic

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Speaker 2: codes out of. Sometimes they're they're kind of like the

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Speaker 2: unadopted children at a father's day reunion. Nobody seems to

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Speaker 4: Sense, it's the one just can shorted.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But like they used to give a little like a key.

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Speaker 2: To put in them, right, well, well they no, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that here. If this is if this

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Speaker 2: is a trapezoid, all right, sixteen pen that is an

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Speaker 2: OBD two diagnostic You will need a scan tool to

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Speaker 2: access codes.

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Speaker 4: Now, well, the I've got a scanner for OBD two

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Speaker 4: and it won't fit it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then it's the other style. It is the

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Speaker 2: other style, all right, So that's it's it's not a trapezoid.

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Speaker 2: It's a rectangle, right.

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Speaker 4: I'll trying to look at it the dam Yeah it's

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Speaker 4: a rectangle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a rectangle. So if it's a rectangle, yes,

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Speaker 2: you can use and I believe it's the bottom right,

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Speaker 2: depending upon the orientation of the plug, Uh, it goes

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Speaker 2: in turn the key on you should see the light

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Speaker 2: come on. You'll see the light start to go through flashes.

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Speaker 4: Well it didn't, but one time it started flashing, uh constantly,

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Speaker 2: With the with your your whatever you're testing it plugged in?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my jumper wire right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So and you're sure you're in the right two holes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm positive there's Even though it's got so many ports,

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Speaker 4: there's only three connectors in them, two side by side

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Speaker 4: and one below it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so it's a three wire system. See

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Speaker 2: here's the issue. This is a this is a ninety

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Speaker 2: five what's the real operating emissions control package in that vehicle?

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Speaker 2: I would love to see an OBD two to one

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Speaker 2: cable plugged into that to see if you could read

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Speaker 2: data stream that may not have the capacity to sell

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Speaker 2: flash codes in ninety five because they were getting ready

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Speaker 2: in preparation for OBD two coming out full board in

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Speaker 2: ninety six. The actual documentation of the Clean Air Act

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Speaker 2: references model year ninety five and a half, and somewhere

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Speaker 2: in between they started to split and go OBEDI OBD two.

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Speaker 2: So if the flash code doesn't work, the next step

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Speaker 2: is get a scan tool, plug it in, see if

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Speaker 2: it does. If it doesn't and you can clearly identify

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Speaker 2: it as an OBD one vehicle. Then you'd have to

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Speaker 2: diagnose check engine light won't flash, and there's procedures for

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Speaker 2: that in the repair manual. Does it still have an

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Speaker 2: emissions tag under the hood? You know that's like that?

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Speaker 2: Does it? Yeah? Go look and see if it has

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Speaker 2: that silver tag, And sometimes on there it will say

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Speaker 2: this vehicle meets and exceeds compliance and missions inspections model

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Speaker 2: you're nineteen ninety five compliant with, and it'll say OBD

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Speaker 2: one or OBD two federal emission standards. All right, that

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Speaker 2: might give you the clue too. Okay, all right, but

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Speaker 2: you know the first thing is you got to identify

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Speaker 2: what emission system are you working on. Just because it's

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Speaker 2: a ninety five doesn't mean crawl around under the desk.

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Speaker 2: Do you see a ninety six? I'm sorry, do you

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Speaker 2: see an OBD two port? And I've seen this too.

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Speaker 2: I've seen ninety five vehicles with both connectors.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you have a hole in the muffler leaking a

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Speaker 2: No, that's definitely won't cause the light not to come

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Speaker 4: All right, okay, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, kittle, good luck to you. Eight five five five

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Speaker 7: When you gain keep Ron's number handy eight five five

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Speaker 2: Here's Rock. Hey, let's go to New Hampshire and talk

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Speaker 2: to John fourteen Jeep Grand Cherokee. John, Welcome to the

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Ron?

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Speaker 9: How are you today?

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Speaker 4: I'm good?

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Speaker 2: What's cooking?

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Speaker 9: So I've got at twenty fourteen Jep Grand Cherokee got

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Speaker 9: about one hundred and thirty thousand on it now, and

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Speaker 9: going to find, you know, either some corrodive slide pins

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Speaker 9: I did him, haven't had any issues since, and I

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Speaker 9: kind of go to. They seemed a little dry. So anyways,

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Speaker 9: took everything apart, took the calipers off, took the brackt

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Speaker 9: Maybe it was a side pins. And so then after

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Speaker 9: of opinion on, you know, anything else to look at

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Speaker 9: or you know, is that my next step? Just throw

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember Grand Cherokee in fourteen John does

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Speaker 9: Where where would they split it?

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Speaker 2: I believe there's a rubber hose coming down the main

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Speaker 9: There is a short rubber hose to the caliper. So

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you're going down the road of

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Speaker 9: maybe you know it's delaminating inside and maybe sticking. Is

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Speaker 9: that what you're thinking?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking about it. What I would do is

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Speaker 2: in the air fast enough, just burp the bleeder. Does

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Speaker 2: the bleeder give me a you know, does it give

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Speaker 2: But keep in mind that that could show me that

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Speaker 2: it's the opposite hose, right, because because yeah, sometimes you

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Speaker 2: know the hosal And I've got to tell you, I've

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Speaker 2: and it really kind of depends on how the hose fails.

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Speaker 2: Does it fail and lock so that the pressure is

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Speaker 2: it's the right rears the right rear hose peeling like

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Speaker 2: a banana peel on the inside, or restricting like it

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Speaker 2: against that steel line it's attached to holding pressure against

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's always, yeah, it's so you know,

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Speaker 2: it's sort of like if you do one hose, you

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Speaker 2: do both. If you think you got at the leader,

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Speaker 2: then you you know, you do both. How old are

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Speaker 9: The original? Yeah, you know they're one hundred and thirty thousand.

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Speaker 9: They got you know, eleven eleven years on him at

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Speaker 9: this or not eleven, but ten years on him at

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Speaker 2: Danny and I, Danny and I talk about this all

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Speaker 2: the time, you know, as we as we go back

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Speaker 2: and forth in the shop, just different ideas and different approaches.

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Speaker 2: His approaches. We we're you know, we get a vehicle

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Speaker 2: that's more than eight years old, and if calibers have

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand miles on it, and we're doing breaks.

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Speaker 2: We talked to the customer. You know, That's it's getting

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Speaker 2: to the point where I don't think this stuff less

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Speaker 2: price comes into it too. I'm sitting there scratching my

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Speaker 2: price take of what they're going to be to repair.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to be able to repair? How are

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Speaker 2: we going to justify to the customer what was once

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Speaker 2: a hundred or one hundred and fifty dollars caliper that's

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Speaker 2: got one hundred thousand miles on it, it's ten years old.

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Speaker 2: Let's put electric calibers on it. They're three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty bucks apiece. You know, where's that conversation going? I go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I you know, and then you're and then you're here

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Speaker 2: spending you got three days into Why does the car,

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Speaker 2: have a restricted brake caliper is the why does the

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Speaker 2: break drag on the right rear? Well, the ten year

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Speaker 2: old caliper, you know, is an issue because and then

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Speaker 2: why does the caliber fail? Well, you don't know until

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Speaker 2: brings us back to where I always start, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing the maintenance. I'm sure you're doing the maintenance, but

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Speaker 2: break fluid flushes are going to come back to be

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Speaker 2: the most important thing. So I appreciate the call, John.

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Speaker 2: I would yeah, I would start. Make sure you get

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Speaker 2: a good quality caliper, get good quality hoses if they're

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Speaker 2: still out there, But be judicious and what you pick,

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Speaker 2: because sometimes you can get bad aftermarket calipers too, so

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Speaker 2: make sure you get some real good ones if you can.

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Speaker 2: I'm on an ady in the car doctor. I'll be

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Speaker 7: Don't go away, welcome back?

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Speaker 2: Want any of the car doctor? Where are we going here?

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Let's go to John in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: John.

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Speaker 2: Oh seven Mustang. How can I help you, sir?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, sir, I've got No. Seven Mustang. It's a four

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Speaker 8: I'm just curious if you think that maybe like opinion bearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, possibly sounds like sounds like something in the rear.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's one thing. I was just about to jack

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Speaker 8: what site was coming from. I just recently, Uh, there

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Speaker 8: But I just uh, I was actually just about to

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Speaker 8: radio and thought, make you you call. I do appreciate

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Speaker 6: By the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're very welcome, sir. That's when here for Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you get it on jack stands when you get it

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Speaker 2: up in the air on the ground there, you know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we don't anybody getting hurt. Yeah, it sounds like pinion bearing,

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Speaker 2: like you're gonna hear it more right in the area

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Speaker 2: hear it all the time. It sort of doesn't matter, though,

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Speaker 2: go in if it's If it's bearing time, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: do six bearings, two axel, two carrier and both pinion bearings.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna go in there at one hundred and

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Speaker 2: measure backlash of the ring and pinion. Is it worn,

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Speaker 2: and what's the wear pattern? You know, maybe grease it up.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure you know. The trick greased up,

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Speaker 2: you getting a good reading? And then you know, look

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Speaker 2: it look like they're worn out? And then again all

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Speaker 2: of this may be a mute conversation because you may

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Speaker 2: drain the gear oil out, drain it and find metal

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I actually just actually just replaced it about

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Speaker 8: and I had the wine before. It seems like it

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Speaker 2: Right, you re you replaced what John the rear itself?

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Speaker 2: Or you you you rebuild?

436
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 8: No, I replaced the oil.

437
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: I replaced oil, Okay, okay, Yeah.

438
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 8: And I haven't seen metal savings or anything, I mean

439
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 8: besides the general I mean the very very small amount

440
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 8: of you know, metal savings dust.

441
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, royal purple and royal purple is good stuff,

442
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: so we have no we have no problems with that.

443
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's well lubricated that you had the.

444
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 8: Frisian modifier, because I've got multiple places telling me multiple

445
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 8: things for the for the seven point five, it's not

446
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 8: needed only for the eight five. And I've heard it

447
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 8: in there anyways.

448
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 2: Well, the answer, you know, the friction modifier is if

449
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: it's a posey and it has clutches in it, is

450
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: it is it a pousi rear?

451
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 8: I don't, That's the thing. I don't. I don't.

452
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 2: I do not know, all right, And so put it

453
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: in neutral. Easy way to find out. Put it in neutral.

454
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: When you have it up in the air, put it

455
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: in neutral and have somebody hold one wheel and you

456
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 2: try and turn the other. If you can turn one

457
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: wheel without the other one turning, it's an open rear.

458
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 9: There you go.

459
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: It's it's it's just that simple. You know. You can

460
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: also when you get it open, you'll see you'll look

461
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: in there. You'll see clutch packs, clutch packs. Instead of

462
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: it being the four spider gears set up with a crosspin,

463
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: it'll have oh you know, if you've ever seen a

464
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: wet clutch on like a motorcycle or a mini bike

465
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: as a kid, it'll it'll have it'll have like clutch

466
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: packs in there with separator shims. And that's what the

467
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: friction modifier. Does it keeps those shims from binding up

468
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 2: on one another?

469
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 9: Uh?

470
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you can put friction modifier in if

471
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: you don't know, because it won't hurt anything. But you

472
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: can't leave it out if it does, because you'll know

473
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: right away as you're hopping around corners, because the clutches

474
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: are minding and sticking and causing all kinds of havoc.

475
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: So you know, but that's that's that's where you are,

476
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: all right. You know you may want to consider too.

477
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: This is an seven, so it's fifteen years old before

478
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: you go, you know. And and nothing wrong with salvage

479
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: jars if you can find a good, clean one. But

480
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: you know, I've done this with my shop truck our

481
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: shop trucks, a ninety seven ranger with about two and

482
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: a quarter on it, and I've put a couple of

483
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: arrears in it. I can't find parts for it anymore.

484
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: It's getting harder and harder. And at one point I

485
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: was using some salvage yard stuff and then I realized

486
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: I was having repetitive failure every thirty forty thousand miles

487
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: because they didn't know the history. I don't know if

488
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: I came out of a two hundred thousand mile vehicle,

489
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: a fifty thousand mile vehicle or what So sometimes either

490
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: go new if you can get it, you know, buy

491
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: a whole assembly and a housing. The fact that that's

492
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: a Mustang, I'm sure there's more than a few people

493
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: out there building you know, third members for that or

494
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: you know you can you know, just just repair what

495
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: you got. Is that A Yeah, No, that's gonna be

496
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: a rear cover. That's not like a four to nine

497
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: inch style. That's not a separate pumpkin from the housing

498
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: set up. Correct, that's got the rear cover that comes

499
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: off the inspection cover. Y. Yeah, okay, so that's a

500
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: that's probably the seven and a half. That's probably the

501
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: smaller rear because that's the four to zho it's a

502
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: it's a it's a V six correct. Yeah, fun car,

503
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: so fun car?

504
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

505
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, absolutely good. So all right, Kittle, good luck

506
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: to you, and let us know if you need anything else,

507
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: we're here for you. All right, appreciate you're very welcome.

508
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: Let's get uh, let's go over to Wisconsin. We haven't

509
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: talked to Wisconsin in a while. Let's go talk to

510
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: amos amos Ron and any and the car doctor at

511
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: your service. How can I help?

512
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi, nineteen ninety eight Chevy Blazer. It has the

513
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 5: four point three leter you know, Chevy Vortech in it, right.

514
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 5: I you know, I think I know quite a bit

515
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 5: about you know, automotive and cars. So I've done, you know,

516
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 5: I put in the plugs, I put in the hy

517
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 5: I put in a spider injector, I've done the upper

518
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 5: intake gaskets. I've done about, you know, everything you can

519
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: think about the basic stuff about it. It just runs

520
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 5: a little bit rough at idol and I can't seem

521
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 5: to figure out what it might be. And I've done

522
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 5: all of that.

523
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: Define define rough? And how many? How many? First of all,

524
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: how many miles are on this amos?

525
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: It's got about one hundred and sixty one thousand miles, okay?

526
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: And and define rough?

527
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 6: Is it?

528
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: Do you have a check engine light? Do you have

529
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: a fault?

530
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 5: No, it's it's just there hasn't been one. It's just

531
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 5: kind of every once in a while you'll hit like

532
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: a couple of hiccups and it'll just do that. And

533
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 5: I've wrote in one of my friends and he's got

534
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 5: about the same mileage on it. And his doesn't do that,

535
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 5: and I like, you know, I've done all of those

536
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: type of things that I would have thought would have

537
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 5: helped that a little bit. But I just you know,

538
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 5: you have got a little stuck on it.

539
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: Do you have a scan Do you own a scan tool?

540
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: Ah?

541
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah I do.

542
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 2: What do you have?

543
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 5: I you know, it's nothing basic, but I can I can,

544
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: or it's nothing super advanced, but I can read, you know,

545
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 5: some of the basics.

546
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Listen, my favorite tool in the shop. And trust me

547
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: when I tell you I have every tool under the planet.

548
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: Just about I have every tool under the planet.

549
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 9: You know.

550
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: My favorite tool in the shop is the two hundred

551
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: dollars blue and blue and gray basic nothing tool hanging

552
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: by the door. I tell Danny, I'm going I'm going

553
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: out for a road test. I get lost with that

554
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: tool for an hour to look at things because I

555
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: like that just gives me OBD two and I can

556
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: look at data and fuel trim and all the things

557
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: I want to look at. And I don't get fancy

558
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: with a scan tool unless I have to, So don't

559
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: feel bad. Can you read data stream with your scan tool?

560
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

561
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: All right, your friends, your friends Blazer is it Is

562
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: it the same truck? Is it a ninety eight? Same engine?

563
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 5: It's ninety nine, you know, it's a year newer. I

564
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: don't know if they changed a whole bunch, Yeah, then.

565
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: It change all didn't change a whole bunch. It's the same.

566
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: It's the same fuel system, right, I mean it's the

567
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: same distributor, fuel system, spider injector set up. It's probably

568
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: got it's probably got a better injection system in it.

569
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: But you know, but it's the same basic vehicle, right,

570
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: all right, So let's play a game. Let's make your

571
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: buddies vehicle the known good, right a right, your buddy's vehicle,

572
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: because you like the way his runs. Right, So do

573
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: you know what fuel trim is?

574
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, the basic of the field trim.

575
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: All right, So why don't we go measure fuel trim

576
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: at idol on his truck fully warmed up, you know,

577
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: measure temperature, See where it's at, Look at mass airflow,

578
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: See what kind of grams per second reading he's got,

579
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: and see where's fuel trim is? Short term? Long term?

580
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: Go look at yours. See what yours is? All right,

581
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: there's there's your first parameter, heart rate and blood pressure.

582
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 2: Let's compare him side by side. All right, are you

583
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: are you running longer fuel trims? My guess is you're

584
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: probably gonna find you're running higher long and short term

585
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: fuel trimmed. Maybe you're running a little lean. Do you

586
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: have pro paane pro paine enrichment as a diagnostic tool?

587
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 5: I could probably figure that out. I mean, I don't

588
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 5: know exactly what that's referring.

589
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: To tell you what? Let me we'll tell you what, Amos.

590
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: Let me pull over that, Let me pull over, take

591
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: a pause. When I come back, I'll explain it to you.

592
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: And this way you'll know, don't go anywhere I'm running

593
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: any of the car Doctor. We'll be back with Amos

594
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: right after this. Welcome back running the car Doctor. Here, Amos,

595
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: you're still there.

596
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 6: Yep.

597
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: You ever build a campfire?

598
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay?

599
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: You ever do it with some wet wood and drywood?

600
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 8: Yeah?

601
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: Right? And it doesn't work too well, does it, Because

602
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: you've got you've got you've got incomplete combustion, so it

603
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: gets a little smoky. So the first thing you do,

604
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: if you've if you're married, and you bring your wife

605
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: with you, she tells you to fan the fire with flames,

606
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: or fan the flyer to get flames up to add

607
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: more oxygen. Right, So you add some oxygen to it

608
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: and the fire flares up and then it's good, and

609
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: then it sort of dies down because it loses that oxygen,

610
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: and it's an imbalanced, improper fuel. It's an improp balanced,

611
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: improper combustion process. So you know, what are we chasing here?

612
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: Are we chasing ignition? Are we chasing fuel? Are we

613
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: chasing mechanical? I don't care what it is. I don't

614
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: care that you're make model. It's and engines and engines.

615
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: A fire's a fire. It's all basic. Let's break it down.

616
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 2: You know, if we use your Buddies ninety nine as

617
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: the barometer for hey, these are what the data pits say.

618
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: This is what fuel trim is, this is what cool

619
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: intemperate runs at, and so on. You've gotten known good.

620
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 2: Now we're going to look at yours. Does yours have

621
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: a problem. That's the first thing. We're going to establish

622
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: what's fuel trim? If fuel trims match him, and let's

623
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: talk about fuel trim that fire. When that fire is

624
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: blazing hot and working, well, that's going to be zero percent. Okay,

625
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: that's a good balanced fuel, right, it's good dry wood,

626
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: it's the right of out of oxygen, it's the right

627
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: amount of draft. It works well, right, it keeps everybody

628
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: warm out in the woods. When we need to add

629
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: more fuel, another log on the fire, so to speak,

630
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: we're adding fuel to the combustion process. So you'll see

631
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: a plus on that fuel trim graph makes sense, yep, Okay,

632
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: So we want to know how does your engine respond

633
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: to more fuel? How are we going to throw another

634
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: log on the fire? We kind of can't, right, but

635
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: we can otc You know, they make a lot of

636
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: good special small hand tools and things for years and

637
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: years and years. They've got a part out there, a

638
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: tool out there, part number seventy one forty eight. It

639
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: is a propane enrichment kit. Screws onto the bottle of propane,

640
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: all right, And when you see it, you'll understand. In

641
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: the hose end, I will take a steel piece of line,

642
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: usually brake line, and I will cut it short and

643
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: peane it down so instead of having wide open spray

644
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: all over the place, I now make it pinpoint. So

645
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: I will peen down the end of the brake line

646
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: to just a crack of an opening. And that's my

647
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: wand and I'll turn some propane on and I'll sniff

648
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: around while I'm watching fuel trim on the scan tool.

649
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: If fuel trim is off, I will watch fuel trim

650
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: on my scan tool. Does fuel trim go up? Do

651
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: I have a very small air leak somewhere that's affecting

652
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: the imbalanced and causing an imbalanced fuel mixture, Not enough

653
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: to trip a light, but enough to make the engine

654
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: run poorly. You know, it's not enough to make the

655
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: fire go out, but it's just enough to be annoying,

656
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. The other thing you can do

657
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: with a propane metering device like that is engines running

658
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: when it does that rough running or that vibration that

659
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: you don't like. If you go into the air cleaner snorkel,

660
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: you don't want to disrupt the mass airflow sensor, so

661
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: you want to be on the air cleaner side. If

662
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: you feed it a little bit of propane, and you'll

663
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: know when you do it wrong, because you'll flood the

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00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: engine out and cause it to stall. If you give

665
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: the engine a little more fuel, does it at least

666
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: idle normally? If it does, you know you're looking for

667
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: a fuel starvation problem with some kind makes sense. Yeah, okay. Last,

668
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: do we have carbon deposits in this? Could this car

669
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: just need a plain old fashioned carbon cleaning right or

670
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: is there deposits on the back of the vals? Go

671
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: out to Berymanproducts dot com take a look at their

672
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: carbon cleaning process. I think Bernman makes some of the

673
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: best fuel cleaning stuff in the world right now. They

674
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: have for many years, and they'll walk you through the

675
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: process of why theirs does what it does. But I

676
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: want you to do a little bit of diagnostic here

677
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: before we go through all this. And last, all right,

678
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: and you'll find that at Barremanproducts dot com. Last, how

679
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: do you know you don't have bad motor mounts? Don't

680
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: answer that? How do you know your motor mounts? The

681
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: rubber insulators aren't rock hard and that's why you're getting

682
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: the vibration, the rough idle sensation you're getting because it

683
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: would be strange to get a rough idol without a

684
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: check engine fault. I'm not saying I live and die

685
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: by the light, but generally that's one of the things

686
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: I consider. So is this you just happen to have

687
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: a bad motor mount, a broken motor mount, a dry

688
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: hard motor mount on the eighteen year old vehicle or

689
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: the fifty to sixteen year old vehicle versus an actual

690
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: engine problem and looking at your friends trim numbers and

691
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: what his data is versus what your data is. May

692
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: you may look at it and go gee, I don't

693
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: see a difference. Well, then we're going to look for

694
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: something else. Do we have a mechanical fault such as

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00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: a bad motor mount causing this condition, and you know

696
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: we're chasing our tail because of something else? Do those things?

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00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Call me back, let me know what you end up with, amos.

698
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: But those are the steps I would take to diagnose this.

699
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: And if you have any other questions, I'm here for you.

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00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

701
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Run any of the car doctor coming back right after this.

702
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: You know, if I was handing out T shirts for

703
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: diagnostic awards today, I think it would go to the

704
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: guy in Oklahoma with the Mustang with the noise in

705
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: the rear. I'm thinking about all the calls this week,

706
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: and look, I'm not picking on anybody. I just want

707
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: you to think, all right, the gentleman from Oklahoma was

708
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: the first one that said, well, I'm gonna jack it up.

709
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get underneath and I'm gonna listen to the

710
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: rear end to see if that's where the noise is

711
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 2: coming from. I didn't hear that from anybody else, all right.

712
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: What I heard was I know how to work on cars.

713
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: I changed this, this, this and this, and I still

714
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: have the problem. Well yeah, but did you test that

715
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: and that? And that's my point, all right. We can

716
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: be parts changers, or we can be diagnosticians. And we

717
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: want to be diagnosticians. And I don't care if we're

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00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: diagnosing the way an engine run, on the way a

719
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: car handles, the way breaks work. All right, maybe the

720
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: break guy, the break guy was pretty good too, the

721
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: break call we had. He was looking at specific things.

722
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: But you know, if you're gonna throw parts at it,

723
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: just just throw parts at it. Just go buy one

724
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: of everything. But the guy that said, hey, I'm gonna

725
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 2: jack the car, I'm can get it underneathing and listen

726
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: to it with a stethoscope, that's a diagnostician. That's a

727
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: guy that's trying to figure out what's wrong. And that's

728
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: that's what I want everybody to be. I want that

729
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: success for each and every one of you. Because I

730
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: want you to understand it. Diagnostics is the first step,

731
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: and sometimes diagnostics is as simple as why I want

732
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: the door open. Well, maybe it's locked, all right, I

733
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: want to unlock the door for you till the next

734
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: time I'm on an eighty in the car, doctor, reminding

735
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: each and every one of you good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 2: They're priceless.

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Speaker 4: See you