00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. 00:00:23 Speaker 2: And I said, no guests. 00:00:27 Speaker 1: Your presences presents, And I already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 3: So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard. Why a girl. Oh there's no easy way to say this. I'm uh the office studio that i'm recording in that I record in, I said no gifts, studio has recently flooded. I'm essentially just working in a disaster zone. I spent you know, the last few minutes of twenty twenty one, well not minutes, hours mopping wet vacuuming, mopping, baling water. So you know, there's mold growing around me. We're waiting for the professionals to take care of it. But in the meantime, we're just going to keep recording the podcast like everything's fine, because it is. It's twenty twenty two, and we've got a terrific guest today, someone who I adore, very funny person. It's Brendan Scannal. Brendan, Welcome to. I said no gifts. 00:01:43 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry about your home or office or whatever you want to call where you live. 00:01:50 Speaker 2: I live in my office. You know my house also had a league. You're kidding what happened? 00:01:56 Speaker 4: You know? What of our windows just couldn't take the rain. And so like the I'm going to say this cocking cock. 00:02:05 Speaker 2: Oh it's a very it's a hard word for anyone to say. And there aren't a lot of opportunities about the call. I guess you can't really hit the l I don't know. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: Sounds crazy cock because he's right, you know, it sounds like cock. The cock broke and my landlord was like, I'll send somebody out. He'll come tomorrow. And I was like, tomorrow's January first, Like, he's coming tomorrow morning. No, so now it still hasn't been fixed, but it stopped raining, so the leak is, the leak is done, so he's coming actually this next Saturday. 00:02:46 Speaker 2: But that just I mean, in the moment when it's raining, saying they'll be coming tomorrow means absolutely nothing, especially when the forecast says the rain will be done tomorrow right right. 00:02:57 Speaker 4: I was like, if he could come right now? It was this is tough, you know, because it was new it was basically New Year's Eve. 00:03:03 Speaker 2: I don't care you're the landlord, this is this, this is the business you deal in. We had the same situation where it was like the water was flooding in. I'm calling the insurance company, I'm calling everyone, and they were taking New Year's off. It's a living I think in Los Angeles every building is built just with the assumption that the rain will come much later after the person has committed to the home. And so like, we've been here for almost two years and this is the first situation and it was devastating. 00:03:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was actually our first flood as well. And we but we live kind of in like a house on stilts, and my boyfriend has a real fear of you know, the big one, the earthquake. Sure, because our house will definitely just be sliding directly into another home. You know, this is just not making it. 00:03:56 Speaker 2: But I would prefer my home to just completely collect as then to have to mop for four hours. Right, just take it all away, don't give me any chance of salvaging. 00:04:07 Speaker 4: Right, just hide in a doorway for a little while and then move. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: Is that the current science hide in a doorway? 00:04:13 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:04:14 Speaker 2: I actually have heard head in a bathroom, but I have. 00:04:19 Speaker 4: I'm not a very anxious person, so I try not to worry about things that are out of my control. 00:04:24 Speaker 2: I just feel like the earthquake safety is constantly shifting, and I feel behind. I feel like at one point they were saying get under a table, but then the table could just flatten. 00:04:36 Speaker 4: You, right, and that makes me get enter a table to kids in the nineteen fifties when they were going to get hit by a nuclear bomb, like. 00:04:44 Speaker 2: You know, also that one never makes. 00:04:48 Speaker 4: Like. 00:04:49 Speaker 2: The reason. 00:04:51 Speaker 4: We have seat belts obviously on planes is really just if there's a crash, they can identify your body in your seat. We're not because you're not going to make it, It's like, but they can be like, oh, this body is in this seat. It's easier to identify you than like your teeth records. Because if you've ever phoned in private, which I have one time to Vegas, like you can just party up there. There's no rules. It's really just a mode of social control seating. 00:05:20 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, then I'm going to stop with my seat belt because I'd like to remain a mystery if a plane crashes, you know. 00:05:28 Speaker 5: Just jumping jump into a different one. 00:05:31 Speaker 2: Just this mangled corpse that they can't identify. Wow, but that makes perfect sense. Now, you're from Chicago, is there any what's the natural disaster you're fearing in Chicago? 00:05:45 Speaker 5: I'm actually well, I was born in Chicago when I. 00:05:48 Speaker 4: Grew up in Indiana. 00:05:49 Speaker 5: I can't claim being from Chicago. 00:05:52 Speaker 2: You know, Okay, Okay, if I did. 00:05:54 Speaker 4: I'd be a liar. But occasionally there'd be like a tornado that would hit a Colts you know. 00:06:01 Speaker 2: A tornado is scary, not in the way. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: That they are in like Oklahoma and stuff like that, but occasionally woulden would just like dip its toes Onto like a big. 00:06:10 Speaker 2: Box store, just kind of flirting with the best buy. 00:06:14 Speaker 4: Right of snow, snow blizzards. I grow a lot of snow days. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: But no earthquake situations. You're from like the South, right, I'm from Utah, so our big thing is the South of the West. Yes, actually I would give that to I think at this point Arizona. I think Arizona, I mean, and it is literally the South of the West, but culturally. 00:06:42 Speaker 5: I just spent one night in Phoenix last month. 00:06:45 Speaker 2: Oh that's a nice title for something. What were you doing in Phoenix. I was. 00:06:53 Speaker 4: I flew there to retain my platinum status on American Airlines, and it was the shortest flight from Burbank because I didn't want to deal with lax and so I flew to Phoenix with my boyfriend. We did one night there and. 00:07:09 Speaker 5: We had a great time. We took public transportation. 00:07:12 Speaker 2: When you say public transportation, are you're talking to a bus a train. 00:07:16 Speaker 4: There's like one train and it goes just north south. We took it. We took it to a museum. 00:07:21 Speaker 2: Good museum, Yeah, beautiful museum. 00:07:24 Speaker 5: Okay, listen, if there's any Phoenix listeners. 00:07:27 Speaker 2: To your pod, you know what's the museum. 00:07:30 Speaker 4: I think it's called the Phoenix Art Museum. 00:07:34 Speaker 2: They really went out of their wife. 00:07:37 Speaker 4: Nobody's given enough money for them to name it after them, you. 00:07:40 Speaker 2: Know, Oh sure, sure. 00:07:42 Speaker 4: There's no Sackler money in Phoenix. So good. 00:07:47 Speaker 2: That family. I think we just need to like run them through a literal juicer and then take their money and use it to repair America. Just devastating. Yeah, have family, tough, family to love. 00:08:02 Speaker 5: Great people though, great partiers. 00:08:05 Speaker 2: You're a wonderful event. 00:08:07 Speaker 5: There's always a lot of drugs. 00:08:11 Speaker 2: And they love the arts. They I absolutely love the arts. 00:08:15 Speaker 4: Just a bunch of psychopaths. 00:08:20 Speaker 2: Okay, So you went to Phoenix for a single night. Was that your first night in Phoenix or your first time in Phoenix? 00:08:26 Speaker 5: First time ever in Phoenix, first time ever in Arizona. 00:08:29 Speaker 2: I like a nice, dry, deserty state. Arizona does seem in a lot of ways end of the world, lawless nightmare. But I do like somewhere where you could potentially have a grapefruit tree in the backyard. 00:08:44 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think citrus does really well there. 00:08:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, And then just leading back, Yeah, I'm from Utah and our big thing was earthquakes. Huh. 00:08:54 Speaker 4: I didn't know that. 00:08:55 Speaker 2: So there's a giant fault line that runs through Salt Lake City that I leave. And this may be a this may be a myth. There's a building that's apparently right on top of the fault line that earthquake researcher seismologists, is that what we're talking about. I've taken a photo of the building as a before because apparently it's going to be so ravaged after the earthquake that they wanted before photos. Now I'm saying that out loud, that sounds like someone made that up. 00:09:26 Speaker 4: I mean your lips to a Mormon god's ears. Oh man, they really don't talk about that fault on Salt Lake City A real housewives in Salt Lake City. 00:09:37 Speaker 2: They've got to get into it. I can't wait for the episode when that fall line just rips the city apart and those women are or of. 00:09:43 Speaker 4: Them on the other side. 00:09:48 Speaker 2: Do you watch it? 00:09:49 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:09:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is like so I dabbled in Housewives of not like obsessed with it, but you know, I passively watch. I like to watch women like get drunk and fight, but then also like retain their friendships with other women. As an outsider this cast, I think there are no heroes, a lot of villains. They clearly they never have a good time. When I watch it, I actually get up in I pace because it makes me so uncomfortable. Yeah, because I think they just have all like are like, what, this is not what I signed up for, you know, like I signed up for like a few trips where like somebody calls me a name and then we make up about it and maybe we have a little bit of drama about it, and it's like you are like gay bashing my son. You're a criminal, you run a cult. One of them is put all of her money and her older husband's money into a skincare line that seems to get rebranded every three episodes. I watch it, and I'm like, this is not going to work out well for any of these people. 00:11:04 Speaker 2: They're all starting. It feels like they're starting from the bottom and somehow going lower, right. I mean, I have a wonderful time watching them, But yeah, with the skincare line, how did I don't even know where the three hundred thousand dollars went. I mean, just get on Photoshop and make a new graphic for your the new name of your company. 00:11:25 Speaker 4: I mean, our photographer is just that expensive. In Salt Lake City. 00:11:30 Speaker 2: We paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for someone to photograph our party. Yeah at my own house. 00:11:36 Speaker 4: You didn't even pay for a venue. 00:11:38 Speaker 2: I've been to that house. 00:11:39 Speaker 5: Really, you've been to Whitney's house. 00:11:42 Speaker 2: Look, I've been outside it when I first trip back home after or since the pandemic. Obviously, I had become a big fan of the show. My sister knew exactly where she lived because she lived close to that house. So I've got a picture in front of. 00:11:59 Speaker 4: It like an attainable neighborhood, and I add to her lovingly, I bought a bunch of. 00:12:04 Speaker 5: Wild Rose products. 00:12:06 Speaker 2: You did. 00:12:07 Speaker 5: I bought a bunch for. 00:12:08 Speaker 4: My agent as a gift because she loves the show and I It was right after the episode where she had spent ten grand on a photo shoot that was like did not seem to be going that well? And I was like, I really want to support this girl. 00:12:24 Speaker 2: All of that. I cannot imagine any of her skincare products are good to put on topically. It feels like Rash City to me. 00:12:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just like sending my agent ezema. 00:12:41 Speaker 2: Yeah she I just like, what expertise does she have for a skincare line? 00:12:46 Speaker 5: She's pretty. 00:12:49 Speaker 2: She's got absolutely no reason to be working in that world. 00:12:53 Speaker 4: No, I mean there's like science involved. 00:12:55 Speaker 2: I think she's not in that house like on the stove cooking ups or however you like lotions. 00:13:03 Speaker 4: She's got a lot of vials and she's mixing different types of extracts and pictures. They seem to have dinner at the same restaurant that then they've just reset into a different style. The city looks as if everything was built in the last fifteen years by this same designer who like designed the original Outback Steakhouse. 00:13:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so insult. But the restaurants that they eat in all look so unbelievably drafty. I'm just cold watching them eat. They're always just like and of course they're always having dinner at like three point thirty pm, so the building isn't full of people. It's very confusing to watch. 00:13:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like they have a lot of late lunches in empty restaurants before dinner service. Yes, that's COVID right, they're really they're like, oh, your restaurant opens at six for dinner, could we come shooting it from like two to four thirty. 00:14:10 Speaker 2: I think that that must be true of a lot of reality shows. I've watched a great deal of ninety Day Fiance Early Pandemic, and there were like a lot of we're having lunch at three point thirty, we're having dinner. 00:14:23 Speaker 4: I have to tell you something because I have to read this to you. So I've never seen ninety Day Fiance, but my friend just sent me this article with a really funny headline, and I'm going to read it. It says ninety Day Fiance star who made thirty eight thousand dollars a week selling farts in a jar hospitalized quote. I thought it was a stroke. And apparently Stephanie Matto was making two hundred and sixty thousand dollars like a year selling her farts for one thousand dollars a jar, and at one point demand was so high Stephanie for Stephanie's wind. This is a British article that she was producing up to fifty jars worth of farts a week. However, she may have squeeze that one too many, as the reality start had to be hospitalized. 00:15:15 Speaker 2: What was this business before Ninety Day Fiance? 00:15:19 Speaker 4: It must have been right. She got famous for Ninety Day Fiance and so many guys wanted to sniffer farts that she created a side hustle, pandemic side hustle. But I think she was like, you know, eating too many foods with too high fiber counts. 00:15:36 Speaker 5: Oh, and she probably shit her pants. 00:15:39 Speaker 4: It was like, can somebody take me to the hospital. 00:15:43 Speaker 2: Oh, I need to see whatever season that is. That is wild. Good for her, you know, you take what you've got and work with it. 00:15:52 Speaker 4: That show seems like one of the most. 00:15:54 Speaker 2: Unwell Oh that show is there is some true darkness in every season. You see some glimpses into humanity that should not be televised. The behavior is just wild. Shoot it what city all over the place? Okay, so they're not like pulling from like a specific right And it's been a few months since I watch it, but I'm pretty sure they're in just various cities wherever they could find a deranged person who found another deranged person in another country. But I need to talk to you about something else, Brendan. Now you know this podcast. It's all over the internet. It's got a clear title. It's called I Said No Gifts. You and I know each other. You agreed to be on this podcast. So I was a little surprised. Today I was at work on Zoom and I took a little break and I came out and on my kitchen counter was a a wrapped box with an envelope that says, bw on it Is this a gift for me? 00:17:06 Speaker 4: Listen, here's the thing about your name. I never know how to spell the first part of it or the last part of it. So and I couldn't be bothered to look that up or even to look at the email invite, and so yes, I did write BW, I'm the card. 00:17:27 Speaker 2: I thought that was very nice. You know, it felt it had a familiarity to a kind of you know, casual. I mean, despite the fact that you know obvious issues about this arriving in my homicide. I thought it was nice. 00:17:43 Speaker 4: I couldn't help it. I couldn't. I have never showed up anywhere without a gift. And so what I did is I drove over to your house twenty five minutes today from my home. I dropped it at yours and then drove away. 00:17:56 Speaker 2: Well that sounds like a very pleasant time for you. 00:17:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a cute drive. Was right after I had worked out, so I was very relaxed. 00:18:02 Speaker 2: There you go. Nice. This is the sort of thing I bring into other people's lives. Well, do you want me to open it here on the podcast? Yeah, of course, I'm happy to wait. 00:18:11 Speaker 4: No, please, I don't think your audience will appreciate just how good the wrap job is. 00:18:21 Speaker 2: The wrapping job is excellent. I love It's kind of like a brown with some little Santa's dashing through the snow. Leftover, but yes, it's it doesn't feel leftover yet. If we were one more week into January, would feel leftover. 00:18:39 Speaker 4: To give it to you before the holiday. 00:18:41 Speaker 2: Right, which adds an extra layer of meaning. Okay, I'm going to open this envelope first. That says BW on it. Let's see the envelopes actually sealed. That's kind of a rarity anymore. You know, usually people just kind of. 00:18:58 Speaker 4: I did like tape, So sorry about that. 00:19:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. Look, okay, it says it says be cheers chow b which just feels almost like code. This feels like you know, someone has a secret. But okay, so it is very European. It's extreme. I mean I think just the b W alone was very European. 00:19:22 Speaker 4: When Utah is in Europe of America. So that's why B cheers chow bee. 00:19:32 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see is this this can't possibly be the actual? I mean, I've got I'm looking at a lake crusde box. I'm going to open it up and see what's happening inside here. 00:19:52 Speaker 4: What if it was an actual, as I. 00:19:55 Speaker 2: Would be so mad. I would be I would be driving to your house with money to pay for it. Okay, we've got some push your paper. Okay, networking, this is way more valuable than It's a beautiful, beautiful blue hat, kind of a women's hat. I'm gonna put this on. 00:20:15 Speaker 4: It's a sun hat. 00:20:16 Speaker 2: You can wear that to a beach. You could wear it to an Easter party. 00:20:20 Speaker 4: If you ever go to Cabo, you know, you just throw that thing on. Protect the old skin. 00:20:26 Speaker 2: Tell me about this. 00:20:28 Speaker 4: That hat has seen many lives. It's but I feel like I'm going to tell you something. I have worn it before. This is not a new item. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: Okay, it feels broken in I'm wearing it currently. Yeah, do you know Lewis Verttel. Of course, we love Lewis. 00:20:47 Speaker 4: At one point I had sort of like a calf hand brunch and he wore it and I've been trying to give it back to him for like three years. And every time he comes over to my house and I'm like, what about your hat, he he leaves without it because he doesn't want it. 00:21:02 Speaker 2: So is originally Lewis's hat? 00:21:07 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's Lewis's hat. 00:21:09 Speaker 2: Okay. Interesting. Lewis was on the podcast very early on. He gave me some board games, so in a way, he's now given me a hat. 00:21:18 Speaker 4: Well, I think I gave you a hat. 00:21:21 Speaker 2: Well, I think I have blue eyes. 00:21:26 Speaker 4: It's going to bring him out. 00:21:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of a Robin's egg blue hat. Okay, So you have you said to a calftan lunch kaftan brunch brunch. Yeah, I was going to say, lunch doesn't make a ton of sense for and everyone wears a kaftan. 00:21:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, just something flowy. He doesn't have to be technically a kaftan. People can wear a. 00:21:45 Speaker 2: Dress just right. What did you wear a krafftan but Hope. 00:21:50 Speaker 4: Yes, of course, Yeah, to my own. Of course, I actually bought it, bought a klf tan, and then I altered it to make it a little bit shorter, a little bit sleatier. 00:21:58 Speaker 2: Oh so to like knee level above. 00:22:03 Speaker 4: A little bit above knee level. Yeah. 00:22:05 Speaker 2: Now, on this very podcast, I've received what was presented as a caftan, but I'm pretty sure as a tunic. But you know it's about hits, about mid thigh. So is that kind of what you were dealing with with? 00:22:19 Speaker 4: That feels like a beach cover up, you know, like a woman would wear like with your the hat that you're wearing, like over her swimsuit. She walks right to the beach. 00:22:32 Speaker 2: But a beach cover up. What there's got to be a better word for a beach cover up than a beach cover up. 00:22:38 Speaker 4: Huh. I think it's called a cover up, just. 00:22:41 Speaker 2: A cover up. Yeah, certainly they're not calling them then in Paris. 00:22:46 Speaker 4: Well, there's no beach in Paris. 00:22:49 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the south of France. You know down you know down there, they're not saying cover ups, they're calling them. God only knows what you know in the pandemic. 00:23:01 Speaker 4: I took nine months of French lessons every week, twice a week with French speakers, and I can't remember a goddamn thing. 00:23:12 Speaker 2: Not that can't possibly be true. Let's let's hear some something you've learned. Now, I won't do it to Tapel and Brendan Jamapell Bridge Brandan. And now did you have to pick a French name like you do in middle school? 00:23:33 Speaker 4: No, they did, just call me Brendan. But I had three great teachers. There's a great place in Silver Lake. It's called Cuckoo. It's on Hyperion, highly recommend. 00:23:44 Speaker 2: Well, but you've just said that you'd learned nothing. 00:23:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's something, it's a muscle. You have to keep doing it. 00:23:49 Speaker 2: You know right, And when you were taking the class, what were what was the end game for you? 00:23:55 Speaker 4: Did? 00:23:55 Speaker 2: You were like, at the end of this, I'm going to go to France for a few months and make my way through the streets. 00:24:01 Speaker 4: I had this dream that I would become fluent enough that I could get an acting job on a French language show and flee America. 00:24:16 Speaker 2: Like this was the most delicial thing I've ever heard. 00:24:19 Speaker 5: You remember the pandemic. 00:24:23 Speaker 4: It was like the height of the Trump presidency, and I was just ready to go. 00:24:28 Speaker 2: I was like, your brain was fried, and. 00:24:32 Speaker 4: My acting career was going really well at the time, and I was like, why couldn't I just learn French and just get out of here. 00:24:44 Speaker 5: Even at one point called. 00:24:46 Speaker 4: My managers and was like, if you see if there, if you don't have any French agents, like I'd love to talk to them, and they were like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I never knew anything about it. 00:24:59 Speaker 5: Because they knew that I wasn't well at the time. 00:25:03 Speaker 2: As far as I can tell, you didn't learn enough French to wash dishes, let alone be the star of French television show. 00:25:12 Speaker 5: I think in Tass is a plate. 00:25:16 Speaker 4: In Tas that means I need a plate. 00:25:22 Speaker 2: Okay, well you could do like half a dish washing job thenas play. 00:25:28 Speaker 4: My problem with my French lessons is that I always did this type of accent and they were like, no, you don't have to do that. 00:25:36 Speaker 2: I actually disagree. I think you kind of do have to take on some level of character for people to buy into you speaking another language, because you know the tonally it doesn't make like an American accent. Tone doesn't make sense for a French tone, So I think taking on whatever you were just doing. They're kind of holding a cigarette with a scarf around, that's fine. 00:25:58 Speaker 4: When I went to Paris, I didn't any French, as was like three or four years ago, and I would find myself bordering stuff and just being like I would like a coffee. Like I was making fun of them, but I was really just trying to be more understood while speaking English by trying to speak like they speak English. 00:26:20 Speaker 2: That was mortified. 00:26:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, I should be arrest it. 00:26:25 Speaker 2: We were in Paris a few years ago and we were at a restaurant. We entered a restaurant slash bar and asked my boyfriend asked, could we see a menu? And this extremely rude drunk French woman called from across the restaurant a menu. He wants to see a menu, and we just turned around and walked out, both just humiliated by this woman. 00:26:49 Speaker 4: By the end of like my six or seventh day in Paris, I was terrified to even go into a restaurant because I you know, I was traveling a lot, kind of finding myself, and I'd been mocked by enough waiters or like had my eye their eyes rolled at me enough times that I was like, you know, I'm just going to do post s bads. 00:27:13 Speaker 2: How long are you there for? I was there for two weeks, okay, and were you just Paris? 00:27:21 Speaker 1: I was in. 00:27:22 Speaker 5: Europe for a month. 00:27:23 Speaker 4: They did Paris, London, Berlin, Tuscany, Rome, Budapest. 00:27:28 Speaker 2: Can that's a lot of traveling to do alone. 00:27:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I had friends in different cities and stuff, and like overlapped with different friends who were traveling. But I was like in the middle of like a nervous breakdown and just wanted, you know, escaping once again. 00:27:45 Speaker 2: Right, It's always this escape to Europe with you. Eventually it's going to hold. I feel like the third time it's going to really stick, and you're going to be somewhere in Europe. 00:27:55 Speaker 4: A lot of Americans just go there and never come back. 00:27:58 Speaker 2: They become an expat. 00:28:00 Speaker 4: Huh. 00:28:01 Speaker 2: James Baldwin, James bald A A wait to have a man. 00:28:09 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. 00:28:11 Speaker 5: My friend Josh. 00:28:14 Speaker 2: Well everyone knows your friend Josh is kind of set up shop in parents. Do you watch any French TV? Was there any like? Oh I would be on that show? No, this is truly the worst pine I've had. I think less of you. 00:28:30 Speaker 4: You know. I tend to get these ideas in my head and then get really manic about them and then like tell everyone in my life I'm going to do them. And that's how I actually have actualized a lot of things. Like one time I just told my friend in college. I was just like, I want to run a marathon and she was just like, why would you do that? And I was like, because I'm going to, And then three months later I did. 00:28:54 Speaker 2: No. That's that really is the secret to doing almost anything is just back yourself into a corner. So I mean that's why I moved to La. I told enough people I was like, well this is getting embarrassing, but I haven't moved here yet, so I finally moved. 00:29:06 Speaker 4: Where did you live? Is this from Utah? 00:29:09 Speaker 2: Yeah? This is from Utah. 00:29:11 Speaker 4: I lived. 00:29:11 Speaker 2: I mean, I like briefly lived in New York when I was interning there, but then went back to Utah started telling people I was moving to La months and months past. I hadn't moved to LA. Finally, I was just so ashamed that I packed up. 00:29:24 Speaker 4: And yeah, I remember, I remember. I feel like I first became aware of you because of your shorts with Matt Ingebretsen. 00:29:33 Speaker 2: Oh we love Matt Ingebretsen. 00:29:35 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I haven't seen him in so long, but I haven't seen a lot of people. 00:29:39 Speaker 2: Now. Do you have any like travel plans coming up? If you know the pandemic? Eventually? Maybe subsides. 00:29:48 Speaker 4: My boyfriend and I are going to the Dominican Republic. Nice when for Valentine's Day? 00:29:56 Speaker 5: Oh hopefully post peak post peak peak post peak. 00:30:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got. I got offered to stay at this little hotel, so we're going beautiful. 00:30:09 Speaker 5: Sometimes you just say. 00:30:10 Speaker 2: Yes, who's offering you a stay at a hotel? 00:30:16 Speaker 4: Brands very I mean the hotel itself? Did I took him up. 00:30:22 Speaker 2: On it, right, of course, And I mean as a fellow redhead. What's your you know in the sun? What are you doing to protect yourself? Are you putting on a hat? 00:30:32 Speaker 4: You know what? I almost included some of the sunscreen I put in my face in my gift to you. However, it's expensive, and I eventually was like, I think I'm just going to give him something free. 00:30:49 Speaker 2: I hate to hear it. I mean, my dermatologists will hear about this. 00:30:54 Speaker 4: I think I use what a lot of people use. I use l to md SPF forty six. It's really good. You have to get it through a dermatologist or you can order it on their website and sort of like pick a dermatologist in the area who will technically supply it to you. 00:31:14 Speaker 5: But it's really good. 00:31:16 Speaker 2: Why is I mean it's sunscreen. Why does that need to be prescribed? Are you going to is there a chance of oding? I mean, this is the sort of product that feels like it should just be on a shelf. 00:31:26 Speaker 4: See this is why you have a podcast, because you're good at asking questions. 00:31:30 Speaker 2: Well, I get I really get into the important issues like this one. 00:31:34 Speaker 4: I don't know why. I think sometimes some things you can only buy through like preferred suppliers. 00:31:40 Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense to me. 00:31:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I think the primary ingredient is just a zinc. So if you just want to like throw a bunch of ink on your face, that's also better for you. 00:31:48 Speaker 2: Dump zinc all over me. Okay, so you have this prescribed, and did you say it was SPF forty six. 00:31:56 Speaker 4: SPF forty six. I don't know why the extra one. 00:31:59 Speaker 3: That's just. 00:32:02 Speaker 2: No one's testing it. 00:32:04 Speaker 4: They also have a tinted version if you're somebody who's not as pal as we are and you're a listener. 00:32:10 Speaker 2: Okay, I like the sound of all this. But then do you use another sunscreen for the rest of your body? 00:32:15 Speaker 4: For my body, yeah, I usually just use like a new trigena, like a spray or just sometimes if I'm in palm springs, I'll go up to an SPF one hundred. 00:32:25 Speaker 2: Wow, that feels like overkilled them. Yeah, it's thick, that's like a mud. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: I've definitely been in a pool next to friends who are like Brendan, you're like leaking sunscreen, like just diffusing it into the water that they're all trying to swim in. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: Just drying up the pool. Have you ever had a bad sunburn? Situation. 00:32:48 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all the time. Every year, I'd say, I get one at the beginning of every sort of sunny season. 00:32:56 Speaker 2: Still, yeah, I just like forget some time, you know, Oh Brendan, I know. I mean it's past time you should. You've just got to have sunscreen on at all times. 00:33:09 Speaker 4: Well, I always have it on my face and I always have it on my hands. Right, do you use driving gloves? 00:33:15 Speaker 1: No? 00:33:16 Speaker 2: Do you No? 00:33:17 Speaker 4: But I have a girlfriend who recommended it to me. She was like, because you might get sunspots or skin cancer on your hands from driving in La the sun through you know, your little preas windshield. But I was like, that's it sounds too bougie. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's And it also just feels like a like I'm just an absolute mess every time I get into the car. I can't imagine remembering to put on my gloves. 00:33:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like eating a salad, Like I've just got too. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: Much going on. I also like, when I want to change the song on my phone, what happens with the glove at that point. 00:33:52 Speaker 4: It's also like if you get in a horrible wreck, God forbid, and you're the car turns over and all that's left is your body. Your body burns up, but all that's left is your hands in those gloves. And then I could just bury two beautiful gloves, beautiful Mark Jacob's gloves. 00:34:12 Speaker 2: But when I come back to life and those, that's kind of punching out of the soil, my beautiful gloved hand in the graveyard. I feel like that's not a bad idea. I do want to now, I mean, now that we're talking about it, I'm committing to this, I want to be buried in gloves. 00:34:27 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, nobody likes a dead hand. 00:34:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, certainly not. I think everyone should be buried in gloves. And there are all kinds I wouldn't mind, like a yellow pair of dishwashing gloves, or these driving gloves you've been talking about, Just something to like a little surprise for whoever ends up digging up my body in the future. 00:34:48 Speaker 5: Do you want an open casket at your wake? 00:34:51 Speaker 2: You know that's a good question. I think I do. But I want it to be frightening. I want it to be done poorly, right, bad makeup, horrible makeup, just like clearly a rush job by someone who was probably not licensed. The guy, the guy. 00:35:09 Speaker 4: Who usually does it is out. 00:35:12 Speaker 2: His assistant amazing system to your cyber is. 00:35:15 Speaker 4: Way too high. 00:35:19 Speaker 2: It's just kind of a gape. 00:35:21 Speaker 4: I'm Catholic, so I go to I have a virtually been to a lot of open casket wakes, and they really do them dirty sometimes. 00:35:32 Speaker 5: Just sometimes you're. 00:35:32 Speaker 2: Like, wow, it's not an easy job. I imagine there's only so much you can do with the dead body, which is why like I feel like, just go the opposite direction, make it look absolutely ghastly clean, based screaming, screaming, would you want an open casket? 00:35:59 Speaker 4: You know, if I died before my mom, I would just let her do whatever she wanted. Like it would just be like whatever my mom wants. She and because that's actually the person who I think it's most important. 00:36:14 Speaker 5: Too, that sort of stuff, right, God forbid or. 00:36:20 Speaker 4: And then if I if she, I mean, if she passes away before me, then I don't. I don't really care. 00:36:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I'll probably ultimately be cremated. 00:36:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like driving around to LA, I like see these huge enormous cemeteries and I'm just like, this would make. 00:36:41 Speaker 5: So much good public space. 00:36:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just a bunch of bodies. 00:36:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, like, why can't cemeteries be parks? 00:36:53 Speaker 2: Right, I will argue that they're a you know, a creepy day out, which iiate. You know, sometimes you want the beauty of nature with the kind of looming specter of death. It's the perfect opportunity. You go over to Hollywood Forever or one of these places, and you know those giant mausoleums, right. 00:37:13 Speaker 4: You see like Toto from Wizard of Oz, Right. 00:37:18 Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, there's a I feel like I saw recently a Joey Ramone's grave and I feel like there's a quote from Rob Zombie on it that feels like something I'm making up. 00:37:30 Speaker 5: I was thinking of Joey Fatone. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: I was like, is dead and Rob Zombie has something to say about it. It was like they let. 00:37:39 Speaker 4: Joey Patone into Hollywood Forever. 00:37:46 Speaker 2: Oh. I do want to remind the listener that while we've been talking about all these things I have, I still have the hat on and it feels natural to me. 00:37:54 Speaker 4: I think it's great, Brendon. 00:37:55 Speaker 2: I want to play a game. Please, let's play. Let's We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse. I needed a number between one and ten from you. 00:38:04 Speaker 4: Six. 00:38:06 Speaker 2: Okay, while I have to do some light calculating get our game pieces. While I'm doing this, you can promote something, you can recommend something, you can say hello to someone, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:38:18 Speaker 4: What am I really liking these days? 00:38:20 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:38:20 Speaker 4: I'm watching this show on HBO Max called Station eleven. It's really amazing. It's based off a book which I obviously have not read. It is about a pandemic that kills ninety nine percent of the human race. I know this is hard and traumatizing and a big buy in, and a lot of people are like, you know what, I actually don't need to watch the Pandemic show right now. However, it is so beautifully done, wonderfully written, gorgeously acted, beautifully directed. I cry almost every episode. Whoever did the music supervision is a genius, and I'm just really loving it. I actually have rewatched multiple episodes that that I've already watched, and I never do that, but I'm just so captivated by this story, which is basically also picks up twenty years in the future after the pandemic and it's like the Survivors, and it's about a group of artists theater artists who travel around Lake Michigan doing Shakespeare plays to other surviving communities. So it's sort of like about a group of artists in the end of the world. And I've never seen anything like it. So I really just love it, and I think you should watch it. Give it a try. 00:39:44 Speaker 2: That's a nice little review. I've read the book and I have not watched the show. 00:39:49 Speaker 4: You read the book, Okay. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: I read the book and the show looks good. I should watch it. 00:39:54 Speaker 4: It's great, like Hiro Maria directed a bunch of the who does, like Arelanta and Berry, and I think it's just like the best working one of the best working to directors. But he specifically seems to do a lot of great television that I love. 00:40:09 Speaker 2: It brings a lot to television. Yeah, A lot of TV directors kind of just do a thing, but he seems to really want to do good work. Yeah. 00:40:18 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like directing TV is a lot of like following someone else's vision, and you're not you are not the end all be all. It's the showrunner. And so I think a lot of the directors that he hasn't directed every episode. Other episodes have been directed by other equally or more more talented. I'm not sure people who have there. It's just great and it takes place in Chicago a lot, so as somebody who has spent a lot of my life there, it just feels cool to watch it like covered in greenery and you know, falling apart. 00:40:52 Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for me to watch. It's time for the listener to watch. Okay, this is how we're going to play the game, Brendan. I'm going to name three things. Yes, you're going to tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why there are correct answers. So be careful, be smart, and I mean, I've seen so many people lose this game. It's heartbreaking. But just give it your best shot. 00:41:16 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:41:16 Speaker 2: Number one, this is a listener suggestion. Someone named Lizzie has written in gift or a curse having mirrors in the dining room. 00:41:27 Speaker 5: Okay, love a Lizzie. So mirrors in the dining room. 00:41:33 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's a. 00:41:35 Speaker 5: Curse because if you're using the dining. 00:41:38 Speaker 4: Room for what it's supposed to be, which is dining, I think you will have a lot of the diners looking at themselves feeling self conscious. I think a mirror in general. I'm a sort of anti mirror in general. In my house they're like behind closed doors in the closets. 00:41:59 Speaker 2: Sounds like a you. 00:42:00 Speaker 4: Shouldn't have them in your bedroom, and you shouldn't have them facing your bed because then if you wake up and see your reflection, well, you know, if you're dreaming and your dream self sees your reflection, you'll come out of your own dreams. 00:42:14 Speaker 2: So and then your mirror self can come out of the mirror and attack your dream self. 00:42:18 Speaker 4: I just don't really know who's having mirrors in their dining room, maybe like above, you know, like a display case of plates. I don't know. I think I think that's a curse. 00:42:34 Speaker 2: Brendan wrong. I think that they're of course, they're a gift. Two words cheap, glamor. I love the idea of Florida ceiling mirrors surrounding a dining room table. You know, there's something very. 00:42:49 Speaker 4: What it is like Miami in the eighties. 00:42:52 Speaker 2: Yes, it's very garish, it's gaudie. It's everyone you have to stare at yourself while you eat your last piece of roast. It adds a real, uh, you know, just a dimension to eating that you don't experience in other places to turn your dining room into a hall of mirrors. I support it completely. I don't have it in my home. No, not yet, not yet. I think you kind of have to get to a level of wealth where your brain snaps and then you start, you know, filling rooms with mirrors. 00:43:25 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think it usually starts with the powder room, right have you ever met them? Of course, one of these houses, usually from like the seventies or eighties. Every wall in the bathroom, including the ceiling, is a mirror. Have you been when it is? 00:43:41 Speaker 2: Of course? 00:43:42 Speaker 4: Usually what is the what is that? Usually belongs to gay men or like women on the verge. I mean, it's like, what. 00:43:49 Speaker 2: Two groups I'm in completely insupportive. 00:43:53 Speaker 5: Just like, what the fuck are you thinking? 00:43:57 Speaker 2: Okay, well you got you failed so far? That's okay. Number two. Gift or a curse? Yard sales where all the items are brand new. 00:44:08 Speaker 5: That's like a small business. 00:44:10 Speaker 2: That's like, is it a gift or a curse? I'm not asking if it's a small business. 00:44:16 Speaker 4: Like, okay, showing up to one or hosting one. 00:44:21 Speaker 2: Showing up to everything's new? Hmm? 00:44:26 Speaker 5: Are the prices? Yard sale prices? 00:44:30 Speaker 2: Oh, that depends on the yard sale leader. Is that what you would call yourself as the person the yard sale? 00:44:39 Speaker 5: The homeowner? 00:44:43 Speaker 4: Okay, I think this is cursed because I think that if I went up to one of these and some women art man, gay man presumably, I don't think a straight man has ever done a yard sale. 00:44:59 Speaker 5: Straight man just throws stuff out. 00:45:00 Speaker 4: They don't give a shit about reusing unless it's tools. If I went up to one of these things and I was like, this is such a nice spot and the woman was like, it's brand new, I'd be like, Okay, that's actually not what I came here for. If I wanted that, I would would you like steal all this shit from a Nordstrum? Were you part of like the Great Nordstrum Raids of December? 00:45:31 Speaker 2: I checked to semi try right? 00:45:34 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, like where I'd be like, where'd you get this ship? 00:45:40 Speaker 2: That's such a funny question to ask someone. Regardless of the yard sale. 00:45:44 Speaker 5: I'd be like, why aren't you using it? 00:45:47 Speaker 2: Freendon? You're correct, of course, that's a curse. I don't go to a yard sale for new items that I don't even think that you know I've got. There are a decent amount of these around LA where I'll show up to yard sale and it's all just news stuff. That's not a yard sale. That's your weird little store on your lawn that has call it something else. Don't don't lead me into your trap. And suddenly I'm like looking at you know, tun NIC's seven of the same type. They're not unique, they're not interesting. It sounds like silver, like it's a very silver like you know, it's not for me. You can occasionally have one brand new thing maybe you found, like, you know, a blender that you didn't use in the back of a cupboard. Okay, you can sell that at your yard sale. 00:46:32 Speaker 4: But do you go to a state sales? 00:46:34 Speaker 2: I love estate sale. 00:46:35 Speaker 5: I fucking love estate sales. 00:46:38 Speaker 2: Have you been to one recently? 00:46:40 Speaker 4: I went to one recently. I woke up at like eight thirty on a Saturday, randomly, and my boyfriend's are really late sleeper, so I know he'll be out until like eleven am. 00:46:50 Speaker 5: So I was like, what can I do right now? 00:46:52 Speaker 4: When I'm like at estate sales dot Com, put in my zip code, found one down the street, got up, walked down there, but a bunch of beautiful old women's jewelry, this gorgeous white parka that she obviously went skiing. And it is weird though, you are like walking through a person's home who was probably like just put into an old. 00:47:15 Speaker 2: Folks home, right, or killed brutally. 00:47:22 Speaker 4: Yes, this one, it was clear that like there was a lot of stuff that the man had had accumulated. He was really into boats, and she was really into like tiny figurines of angels, and it sort of felt like they were both still around. 00:47:41 Speaker 2: Oh but I so that does kind of feel like vultures just pecking away. 00:47:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just taking like whatever like their kids didn't want, you know, right. 00:47:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a great feeling. 00:47:54 Speaker 2: But it is very fun to walk around weird homes, oh, looking at all things that could potentially be haunted. 00:48:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there was a whole room just full of dolls. 00:48:05 Speaker 2: You know, there's always a room of dolls. 00:48:07 Speaker 4: It full of like fourteen pairs of boots. 00:48:11 Speaker 2: Like when there's also usually like a bathroom where like just medical supplies just been dragged out of the cabinets and just strewn across the floor. None of you don't want anything in a bathroom at an estate sale, like. 00:48:23 Speaker 4: Oh is this old valuum. It used to be stronger. 00:48:30 Speaker 5: Vallium. 00:48:30 Speaker 4: Sacklers can't get them out of mind. 00:48:32 Speaker 2: So we've got to bring the sacklers back. I would love to go to a Sackler estate sale. Let's be honest. 00:48:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's a nice stuff. 00:48:43 Speaker 2: Right, that's all brand news stuff. Okay, finally, this is a listener suggestion. You've gotten one so far, so let's hope you get this one correct. Aaron, someone named Aaron has written in post credit scenes gift or a curse. 00:49:02 Speaker 4: Okay. I recently watched a movie that had a post credit scene that was setting up a sequel that clearly this movie will never get a sequel. So in that scenario, I think that is a curse. You know, that is that is trying. 00:49:18 Speaker 5: A little too hard. 00:49:20 Speaker 2: What movie was. 00:49:21 Speaker 4: I can't say because of friend's in it. Yeah, but it's like, in that way, it's a curse. I also think I'm just gonna go straight up curse. I really don't like in these Marvel movies where typically in most of them, I'm like, who's that? 00:49:39 Speaker 2: Why, who's that? 00:49:40 Speaker 4: What are they doing? How can she do that with her fingers? I don't like how they keep bringing Samuel L. Jackson back, Like he just shoots like thirteen one. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Days of work a year the game show. 00:49:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, Oh, let's just knock out all my post credit scenes this week. And I'm like, we're paying this man too much money to do this stuff and we're not getting him in actual acting work. So I think. 00:50:16 Speaker 5: I think it's providing him with too much work. 00:50:20 Speaker 2: This is more of a just an empty Samuel L. Jackson. 00:50:23 Speaker 4: I think he should I think he should be working. You know, sometimes like actors get caught in. 00:50:28 Speaker 2: Stuff and you're like, We're like I can't say no to the paycheck, right. 00:50:31 Speaker 4: You're like, oh, that's an actor. I like what are they up to? And then you like look and you're like, oh, they've been in the last five X men, like I've completely missed that and I miss there. I missed their work. Although I guess said before this Samuel Jackson was doing this Capital One commercials. 00:50:52 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so seeing financial trouble, what's going on, sam? 00:50:57 Speaker 4: I bet it's fine. They're only few people in the world who I think are fine. I'm sure he's fine. 00:51:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look you got it right, I think, of course, don't make me sit through. No, you're sitting through the credits for commercial for another movie that may or may not come to be. 00:51:16 Speaker 4: I just feel like the people who care about that are always like huge dorks. 00:51:22 Speaker 2: Get a live, get a lot. 00:51:24 Speaker 4: I was just saying to a friend my mantra that I'm going to say to other people in twenty twenty two is get a life. 00:51:33 Speaker 2: I love telling people. I love to say get a life. That those three words and the two other words I love that really will shut down almost any anything who cares. 00:51:43 Speaker 5: Who cares? 00:51:45 Speaker 2: It just there's no rebuttal to who cares. It's just I love to say it. It feels great, and telling someone to get a life also really put someone in their place almost immediately. There's nothing, there's no coming back from get a life. 00:52:00 Speaker 5: Get a life. 00:52:01 Speaker 2: Please, just get a life. 00:52:03 Speaker 5: You can even say it to yourself. 00:52:06 Speaker 4: Get a life, Brandon, get a life. 00:52:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, these post credit scenes, no, thank you, we don't need them. You know, if you want me to see your next movie, put out a commercial on TV or whatever for me to find you. Don't make me sit. And those movies, by the way, are four hours. It's too much. 00:52:32 Speaker 4: I don't like I. 00:52:33 Speaker 5: Don't like Easter egg culture. You know it's too much. 00:52:36 Speaker 4: I'm not reading the Reddit forum for the hidden No, thank you. I am stoned passively watching your movie looking at my phone. 00:52:45 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not seeing the eggs. 00:52:52 Speaker 2: Well, you know you got two out of three. Not bad. I mean I was worried for you for a minute there, but I'm very impressed how you turn the ship or. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said No emails. People write into I said No gives a Gmail dot com. They've got questions. I do an excellent job answering. The guest helps Will you help me? 00:53:14 Speaker 4: Sure? 00:53:15 Speaker 2: Here's a good one that says Highbridger. And this person doesn't even address you, which I find very rude. Usually they'll say something about the guest, but this just says, straight up, Hybridger, I would like you to participate. Well, then this person, of course says, love the podcast. Every episode brings a little delight to my day. So now I feel bad reading your own compliments. I'll read it again, love the podcast. Every episode brings a little delight to my day. Maybe we could get that as a pull quote on a post or someday Anyway, here's my question. I've been with my husband for thirteen years, and for the past decade he has gotten me the exact same flower arrangement as a gift for my birthday. He has a local fancy florist that he uses, and they make me the exact same and dot dot elaborate tropical bouquet every time. I think the first time I received them, I was effusive about how pretty they were, and now this is his go to. I appreciate the sentiment, and I know they're expensive, okay, but after ten years, I'd really love to get something different. Am I an ungrateful monster? Or is there a way to ask for a change this year? Thanks for brightening my day? And that's from just the letter k K could be Christy, Christine, Karen? What was yours? Kareem? Kareem? Carol combat Carol? 00:54:36 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: I would love a Carol with the K K A R Y L. Candy Candace Conroy. Anyway, So this person's been getting the same beautiful, elaborate tropical tropical bunch of flowers for a decade and she's had enough. Is she an ungrateful monster? Or is there a way to ask for a change this year. Well, it can be both, Carol. I will just say flat out, you're an ungrateful monster. Let's just put it out there. You're a bad wife and a difficult partner. But your husband, we don't know that much about him, other than the fact that he's thoughtless. 00:55:25 Speaker 4: I feel like this is about something else. I am getting a sense from her that she really likes how he is and how he has been for thirteen years. But she's trying to open up their relationship so interesting. I'm getting a stasis is getting She's getting the thirteen year inch, right, thirteen year not the thirteen year inch. She wants it now, HAUNTI, oh, just murder me. I'm getting a sense that this is about something else. 00:56:05 Speaker 2: She's eyeing the exit sign. She wants out, or she just wants Oh. 00:56:10 Speaker 4: Maybe she just wants to change, you know, like she wants him to spice things up, right. I think here's one thing. You have to be willing to communicate with your partner about what you like and what you don't like, and that can include what you're bored of, right, you know, so just next time he gets that for you, subtenly, be like, I hate. 00:56:34 Speaker 2: This kind of just dump in the trash. 00:56:39 Speaker 4: Just be like, I heard of this great new florist, or just start showing him instagrams of flower arrangements that you like and be like, Babe, look at this. 00:56:51 Speaker 2: I don't know friend, and this is horrible advice. This is giving us a little peek into however, your your poor boyfriend is probably having to pick up on clues. This woman has a clear problem with her husband. She's got to communicate that. She can't be hinting around it. He's never going to get it. He's been doing this. He's stuck in a routine. She needs to be Look, kay, Carol Conroy Conrad, you need to look at you wrote this email. And this is kind of like a little test, a little tryout of expressing your feelings. She express them to me. So for a minute, just you imagined I was your husband. Now use the practice you've got here on your husband. 00:57:35 Speaker 4: So I actually have a liar's idea for you, Karen. 00:57:38 Speaker 2: Oh, what what you. 00:57:40 Speaker 4: Do is when you know the order, he calls in the order, call the floris, go in, befriended them and be like, here's my dilemma. Can you make me something completely different? Completely better, more to my taste, and deliver it. And then when my husband's like, it's different this year, be like, oh my god, I'm obsessed with it. I love this one. It's so cool that it's different this year. It'd be so crazy if I got a different one every year. Next year, do the same thing. Go into this place and be like I want something new, and get in his head. 00:58:18 Speaker 5: Start the pattern. Take control of your own flowers. 00:58:24 Speaker 2: Way easier than just going to him directly. I mean, why not apply for a job at the floors. Then you can just intercept the call and just do your own. You're probably getting an employee discount. He's probably giving his credit card number over the phone. Suddenly you're buying a bunch of things for yourself online. 00:58:42 Speaker 4: You could also photoshop an article that accuses the flowership that he like of being racist. 00:58:50 Speaker 2: Unless he's a racist. Oh yeah, well then he's gonna be doubling down. 00:58:54 Speaker 4: Whenever your husband doesn't like what if they hate tools? The displace hates tools, and then he'll have to go to a new place. 00:59:05 Speaker 2: This is an episode of all improvement. Well, k, look you've gotten the exact little bit of medicine. You needed. I think that this is going to solve all of your problems between you and your husband. Like Brendan was saying, I think it is time to open your relationship. Just open it wide open. Maybe you've got an eye your eye on the floorist. 00:59:30 Speaker 5: I know you know, you got those nimble fingers. 00:59:33 Speaker 2: You know, always smells of tulips and carnations. I think that's a good opportunity for both of you. Okay, Brendan, we did a perfect job. I feel great and I've been in a hat this entire time, which is so comforting. 00:59:50 Speaker 4: You look great. 00:59:51 Speaker 2: It's given me a new, you know, new confidence that I'm going to be able to march forward in the new year with I'll be able to pair this with my tunic. I'm basically just building kind of a little treasure chest to take to the beach or to Palm Springs, or to brunch or to brunch at in Palm Springs. Who's to say. I've had a wonderful time with you here. Thank you so much for being here. 01:00:21 Speaker 5: So great to chat, good to catch up. 01:00:24 Speaker 4: Proud of you. 01:00:24 Speaker 2: Hap it for you, Thank you, thank you for saying that. And listener, it's now time for you to, you know, find something to do for the next seven days until the next episode comes out. I hope that you're not completely adrift without me, but if you are, you can always, you know, dial in an old episode, you can try to find where I live. You can do whatever you want. That's your life and you've got to make those choices for yourself. So goodbye. I'll talk to you soon. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do, considering everything I do for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midrool dot com slash ads. 01:01:46 Speaker 4: Invit. 01:01:47 Speaker 1: Did you hear fun a man? Myself? Perfectly clear? But you're a. 01:01:55 Speaker 3: Guest to me. You gotta come to be empty, and I said, no, guest, your own presence is presence enough that I already. 01:02:10 Speaker 2: Had too much stuff. 01:02:12 Speaker 4: So how do you dare to surbey me?