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Speaker 2: And I said, no guests.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard. Why a girl.

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Speaker 2: Oh there's no easy way to say this. I'm uh

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Speaker 2: because it is. It's twenty twenty two, and we've got

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Speaker 2: It's Brendan Scannal. Brendan, Welcome to. I said no gifts.

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry about your home or office or whatever

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Speaker 2: I live in my office. You know my house also

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Speaker 4: You know? What of our windows just couldn't take the rain.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a nice title for something. What were you

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Speaker 4: I flew there to retain my platinum status on American Airlines,

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Speaker 5: We had a great time. We took public transportation.

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Speaker 4: There's like one train and it goes just north south.

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Speaker 4: We took it. We took it to a museum.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's given enough money for them to name it after them, you.

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Speaker 4: There's no Sackler money in Phoenix. So good.

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Speaker 5: Great people though, great partiers.

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Speaker 2: You're a wonderful event.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you went to Phoenix for a single night.

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Speaker 5: First time ever in Phoenix, first time ever in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I like a nice, dry, deserty state. Arizona does seem

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Speaker 2: So there's a giant fault line that runs through Salt

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Speaker 2: We paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for someone

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Speaker 2: I've been to that house.

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Speaker 5: Really, you've been to Whitney's house.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've been outside it when I first trip back

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Speaker 4: It like an attainable neighborhood, and I add to her lovingly,

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Speaker 5: Wild Rose products.

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Speaker 2: Unwell Oh that show is there is some true darkness

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Speaker 2: something else, Brendan. Now you know this podcast. It's all

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Speaker 2: I Said No Gifts. You and I know each other.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was very nice. You know, it felt

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Speaker 4: I couldn't help it. I couldn't. I have never showed

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Speaker 2: There you go. Nice. This is the sort of thing

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Speaker 2: I bring into other people's lives. Well, do you want

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Speaker 4: No, please, I don't think your audience will appreciate just

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Speaker 2: The wrapping job is excellent. I love It's kind of

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Speaker 4: To give it to you before the holiday.

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Speaker 4: It's a sun hat.

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Speaker 4: If you ever go to Cabo, you know, you just

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Speaker 4: That hat has seen many lives. It's but I feel

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I gave you a hat.

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Speaker 2: Now, on this very podcast, I've received what was presented

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Speaker 4: That feels like a beach cover up, you know, like

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Speaker 2: But a beach cover up. What there's got to be

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Speaker 4: Huh. I think it's called a cover up, just.

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Speaker 4: I took nine months of French lessons every week, twice

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Speaker 2: Not that can't possibly be true. Let's let's hear some

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Speaker 2: something you've learned. Now, I won't do it to Tapel

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Speaker 2: and Brendan Jamapell Bridge Brandan. And now did you have

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Speaker 2: to pick a French name like you do in middle school?

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Speaker 4: No, they did, just call me Brendan. But I had

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Speaker 4: It's called Cuckoo. It's on Hyperion, highly recommend.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you've just said that you'd learned nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's something, it's a muscle. You have to

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Speaker 4: I had this dream that I would become fluent enough

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Speaker 2: Like this was the most delicial thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 4: My acting career was going really well at the time,

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Speaker 2: As far as I can tell, you didn't learn enough

443
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: French to wash dishes, let alone be the star of

444
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: French television show.

445
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 5: I think in Tass is a plate.

446
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: In Tas that means I need a plate.

447
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: Okay, well you could do like half a dish washing

448
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: job thenas play.

449
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 4: My problem with my French lessons is that I always

450
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 4: did this type of accent and they were like, no,

451
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 4: you don't have to do that.

452
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 2: I actually disagree. I think you kind of do have

453
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: to take on some level of character for people to

454
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: buy into you speaking another language, because you know the

455
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: tonally it doesn't make like an American accent. Tone doesn't

456
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: make sense for a French tone, So I think taking

457
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: on whatever you were just doing. They're kind of holding

458
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: a cigarette with a scarf around, that's fine.

459
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: When I went to Paris, I didn't any French, as

460
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: was like three or four years ago, and I would

461
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: find myself bordering stuff and just being like I would

462
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: like a coffee. Like I was making fun of them,

463
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 4: but I was really just trying to be more understood

464
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: while speaking English by trying to speak like they speak English.

465
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: That was mortified.

466
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I should be arrest it.

467
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: We were in Paris a few years ago and we

468
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: were at a restaurant. We entered a restaurant slash bar

469
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: and asked my boyfriend asked, could we see a menu?

470
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: And this extremely rude drunk French woman called from across

471
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: the restaurant a menu. He wants to see a menu,

472
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: and we just turned around and walked out, both just

473
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: humiliated by this woman.

474
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: By the end of like my six or seventh day

475
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 4: in Paris, I was terrified to even go into a

476
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: restaurant because I you know, I was traveling a lot,

477
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: kind of finding myself, and I'd been mocked by enough

478
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: waiters or like had my eye their eyes rolled at

479
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: me enough times that I was like, you know, I'm

480
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: just going to do post s bads.

481
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: How long are you there for? I was there for

482
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: two weeks, okay, and were you just Paris?

483
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: I was in.

484
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 5: Europe for a month.

485
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: They did Paris, London, Berlin, Tuscany, Rome, Budapest.

486
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: Can that's a lot of traveling to do alone.

487
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I had friends in different cities and stuff,

488
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: and like overlapped with different friends who were traveling. But

489
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: I was like in the middle of like a nervous

490
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: breakdown and just wanted, you know, escaping once again.

491
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: Right, It's always this escape to Europe with you. Eventually

492
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: it's going to hold. I feel like the third time

493
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: it's going to really stick, and you're going to be

494
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: somewhere in Europe.

495
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: A lot of Americans just go there and never come back.

496
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: They become an expat.

497
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: Huh.

498
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: James Baldwin, James bald A A wait to have a man.

499
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.

500
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 5: My friend Josh.

501
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Well everyone knows your friend Josh is kind of set

502
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: up shop in parents. Do you watch any French TV?

503
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: Was there any like? Oh I would be on that show? No,

504
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: this is truly the worst pine I've had. I think

505
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: less of you.

506
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: You know. I tend to get these ideas in my

507
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: head and then get really manic about them and then

508
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: like tell everyone in my life I'm going to do them.

509
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: And that's how I actually have actualized a lot of things.

510
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: Like one time I just told my friend in college.

511
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: I was just like, I want to run a marathon

512
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: and she was just like, why would you do that?

513
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: And I was like, because I'm going to, And then

514
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: three months later I did.

515
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: No. That's that really is the secret to doing almost

516
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: anything is just back yourself into a corner. So I

517
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: mean that's why I moved to La. I told enough

518
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: people I was like, well this is getting embarrassing, but

519
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: I haven't moved here yet, so I finally moved.

520
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: Where did you live? Is this from Utah?

521
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is from Utah.

522
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: I lived.

523
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I like briefly lived in New York when

524
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: I was interning there, but then went back to Utah

525
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: started telling people I was moving to La months and

526
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: months past. I hadn't moved to LA. Finally, I was

527
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: just so ashamed that I packed up.

528
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: And yeah, I remember, I remember. I feel like I

529
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: first became aware of you because of your shorts with

530
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: Matt Ingebretsen.

531
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 2: Oh we love Matt Ingebretsen.

532
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I haven't seen him in so long, but I

533
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: haven't seen a lot of people.

534
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: Now. Do you have any like travel plans coming up?

535
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: If you know the pandemic? Eventually? Maybe subsides.

536
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: My boyfriend and I are going to the Dominican Republic.

537
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: Nice when for Valentine's Day?

538
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: Oh hopefully post peak post peak peak post peak.

539
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got. I got offered to stay at this

540
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: little hotel, so we're going beautiful.

541
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: Sometimes you just say.

542
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Yes, who's offering you a stay at a hotel?

543
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: Brands very I mean the hotel itself? Did I took

544
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: him up.

545
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: On it, right, of course, And I mean as a

546
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: fellow redhead. What's your you know in the sun? What

547
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: are you doing to protect yourself? Are you putting on

548
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: a hat?

549
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: You know what? I almost included some of the sunscreen

550
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: I put in my face in my gift to you. However,

551
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: it's expensive, and I eventually was like, I think I'm

552
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: just going to give him something free.

553
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: I hate to hear it. I mean, my dermatologists will

554
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: hear about this.

555
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: I think I use what a lot of people use.

556
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: I use l to md SPF forty six. It's really good.

557
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 4: You have to get it through a dermatologist or you

558
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: can order it on their website and sort of like

559
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: pick a dermatologist in the area who will technically supply

560
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: it to you.

561
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 5: But it's really good.

562
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 2: Why is I mean it's sunscreen. Why does that need

563
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: to be prescribed? Are you going to is there a

564
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: chance of oding? I mean, this is the sort of

565
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: product that feels like it should just be on a shelf.

566
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: See this is why you have a podcast, because you're

567
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: good at asking questions.

568
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Well, I get I really get into the important issues

569
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: like this one.

570
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: I don't know why. I think sometimes some things you

571
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: can only buy through like preferred suppliers.

572
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense to me.

573
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I think the primary ingredient is

574
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: just a zinc. So if you just want to like

575
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: throw a bunch of ink on your face, that's also

576
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: better for you.

577
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: Dump zinc all over me. Okay, so you have this prescribed,

578
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: and did you say it was SPF forty six.

579
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: SPF forty six. I don't know why the extra one.

580
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: That's just.

581
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: No one's testing it.

582
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: They also have a tinted version if you're somebody who's

583
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: not as pal as we are and you're a listener.

584
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I like the sound of all this. But then

585
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: do you use another sunscreen for the rest of your body?

586
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: For my body, yeah, I usually just use like a

587
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: new trigena, like a spray or just sometimes if I'm

588
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: in palm springs, I'll go up to an SPF one hundred.

589
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: Wow, that feels like overkilled them. Yeah, it's thick, that's

590
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: like a mud.

591
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: I've definitely been in a pool next to friends who

592
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: are like Brendan, you're like leaking sunscreen, like just diffusing

593
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: it into the water that they're all trying to swim in.

594
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: Just drying up the pool. Have you ever had a

595
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: bad sunburn? Situation.

596
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all the time. Every year, I'd say, I

597
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: get one at the beginning of every sort of sunny season.

598
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, I just like forget some time, you know,

599
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: Oh Brendan, I know. I mean it's past time you should.

600
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: You've just got to have sunscreen on at all times.

601
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: Well, I always have it on my face and I

602
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 4: always have it on my hands. Right, do you use

603
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: driving gloves?

604
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: No?

605
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: Do you No?

606
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: But I have a girlfriend who recommended it to me.

607
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: She was like, because you might get sunspots or skin

608
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: cancer on your hands from driving in La the sun

609
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: through you know, your little preas windshield. But I was like,

610
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: that's it sounds too bougie.

611
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's And it also just feels like a like

612
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm just an absolute mess every time I get into

613
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: the car. I can't imagine remembering to put on my gloves.

614
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like eating a salad, Like I've just got too.

615
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: Much going on. I also like, when I want to

616
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: change the song on my phone, what happens with the

617
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: glove at that point.

618
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: It's also like if you get in a horrible wreck,

619
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: God forbid, and you're the car turns over and all

620
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: that's left is your body. Your body burns up, but

621
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: all that's left is your hands in those gloves. And

622
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: then I could just bury two beautiful gloves, beautiful Mark

623
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: Jacob's gloves.

624
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: But when I come back to life and those, that's

625
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: kind of punching out of the soil, my beautiful gloved

626
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: hand in the graveyard. I feel like that's not a

627
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: bad idea. I do want to now, I mean, now

628
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: that we're talking about it, I'm committing to this, I

629
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: want to be buried in gloves.

630
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, nobody likes a dead hand.

631
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, certainly not. I think everyone should be buried

632
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: in gloves. And there are all kinds I wouldn't mind,

633
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: like a yellow pair of dishwashing gloves, or these driving

634
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: gloves you've been talking about, Just something to like a

635
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: little surprise for whoever ends up digging up my body

636
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: in the future.

637
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 5: Do you want an open casket at your wake?

638
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: You know that's a good question. I think I do.

639
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: But I want it to be frightening. I want it

640
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: to be done poorly, right, bad makeup, horrible makeup, just

641
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: like clearly a rush job by someone who was probably

642
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: not licensed. The guy, the guy.

643
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: Who usually does it is out.

644
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: His assistant amazing system to your cyber is.

645
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: Way too high.

646
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: It's just kind of a gape.

647
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 4: I'm Catholic, so I go to I have a virtually

648
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: been to a lot of open casket wakes, and they

649
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: really do them dirty sometimes.

650
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 5: Just sometimes you're.

651
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: Like, wow, it's not an easy job. I imagine there's only

652
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: so much you can do with the dead body, which

653
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: is why like I feel like, just go the opposite direction,

654
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 2: make it look absolutely ghastly clean, based screaming, screaming, would

655
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: you want an open casket?

656
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: You know, if I died before my mom, I would

657
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: just let her do whatever she wanted. Like it would

658
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: just be like whatever my mom wants. She and because

659
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: that's actually the person who I think it's most important.

660
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: Too, that sort of stuff, right, God forbid or.

661
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: And then if I if she, I mean, if she

662
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 4: passes away before me, then I don't. I don't really care.

663
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I'll probably ultimately be cremated.

664
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like driving around to LA, I like

665
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 4: see these huge enormous cemeteries and I'm just like, this

666
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: would make.

667
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: So much good public space.

668
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just a bunch of bodies.

669
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, like, why can't cemeteries be parks?

670
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Right, I will argue that they're a you know, a

671
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: creepy day out, which iiate. You know, sometimes you want

672
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: the beauty of nature with the kind of looming specter

673
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: of death. It's the perfect opportunity. You go over to

674
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: Hollywood Forever or one of these places, and you know

675
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: those giant mausoleums, right.

676
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: You see like Toto from Wizard of Oz, Right.

677
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, there's a I feel like I saw recently

678
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: a Joey Ramone's grave and I feel like there's a

679
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: quote from Rob Zombie on it that feels like something

680
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm making up.

681
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: I was thinking of Joey Fatone.

682
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: I was like, is dead and Rob Zombie has something

683
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 2: to say about it. It was like they let.

684
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 4: Joey Patone into Hollywood Forever.

685
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: Oh. I do want to remind the listener that while

686
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: we've been talking about all these things I have, I

687
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: still have the hat on and it feels natural to me.

688
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: I think it's great, Brendon.

689
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: I want to play a game. Please, let's play. Let's

690
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.

691
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: I needed a number between one and ten from you.

692
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 4: Six.

693
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: Okay, while I have to do some light calculating get

694
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: our game pieces. While I'm doing this, you can promote something,

695
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: you can recommend something, you can say hello to someone,

696
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,479
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

697
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: What am I really liking these days?

698
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

699
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 4: I'm watching this show on HBO Max called Station eleven.

700
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: It's really amazing. It's based off a book which I

701
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: obviously have not read. It is about a pandemic that

702
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: kills ninety nine percent of the human race. I know

703
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: this is hard and traumatizing and a big buy in,

704
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: and a lot of people are like, you know what,

705
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: I actually don't need to watch the Pandemic show right now. However,

706
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: it is so beautifully done, wonderfully written, gorgeously acted, beautifully directed.

707
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 4: I cry almost every episode. Whoever did the music supervision

708
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: is a genius, and I'm just really loving it. I

709
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: actually have rewatched multiple episodes that that I've already watched,

710
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: and I never do that, but I'm just so captivated

711
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 4: by this story, which is basically also picks up twenty

712
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: years in the future after the pandemic and it's like

713
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: the Survivors, and it's about a group of artists theater

714
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: artists who travel around Lake Michigan doing Shakespeare plays to

715
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: other surviving communities. So it's sort of like about a

716
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: group of artists in the end of the world. And

717
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like it. So I really just

718
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 4: love it, and I think you should watch it. Give

719
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: it a try.

720
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: That's a nice little review. I've read the book and

721
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: I have not watched the show.

722
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: You read the book, Okay.

723
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: I read the book and the show looks good. I

724
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: should watch it.

725
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 4: It's great, like Hiro Maria directed a bunch of the

726
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 4: who does, like Arelanta and Berry, and I think it's

727
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: just like the best working one of the best working

728
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 4: to directors. But he specifically seems to do a lot

729
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 4: of great television that I love.

730
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: It brings a lot to television. Yeah, A lot of

731
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: TV directors kind of just do a thing, but he

732
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: seems to really want to do good work. Yeah.

733
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like directing TV is a lot

734
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: of like following someone else's vision, and you're not you

735
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: are not the end all be all. It's the showrunner.

736
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: And so I think a lot of the directors that

737
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: he hasn't directed every episode. Other episodes have been directed

738
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: by other equally or more more talented. I'm not sure

739
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: people who have there. It's just great and it takes

740
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: place in Chicago a lot, so as somebody who has

741
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 4: spent a lot of my life there, it just feels

742
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: cool to watch it like covered in greenery and you know,

743
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: falling apart.

744
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for me to watch. It's time for

745
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: the listener to watch. Okay, this is how we're going

746
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: to play the game, Brendan. I'm going to name three things. Yes,

747
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: you're going to tell me if there are a gift

748
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: or a curse and why there are correct answers. So

749
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: be careful, be smart, and I mean, I've seen so

750
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: many people lose this game. It's heartbreaking. But just give

751
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: it your best shot.

752
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 4: Okay.

753
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: Number one, this is a listener suggestion. Someone named Lizzie

754
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: has written in gift or a curse having mirrors in

755
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: the dining room.

756
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 5: Okay, love a Lizzie. So mirrors in the dining room.

757
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's a.

758
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 5: Curse because if you're using the dining.

759
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: Room for what it's supposed to be, which is dining,

760
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: I think you will have a lot of the diners

761
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: looking at themselves feeling self conscious. I think a mirror

762
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: in general. I'm a sort of anti mirror in general.

763
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: In my house they're like behind closed doors in the closets.

764
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 2: Sounds like a you.

765
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: Shouldn't have them in your bedroom, and you shouldn't have

766
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: them facing your bed because then if you wake up

767
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: and see your reflection, well, you know, if you're dreaming

768
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: and your dream self sees your reflection, you'll come out

769
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: of your own dreams.

770
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: So and then your mirror self can come out of

771
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: the mirror and attack your dream self.

772
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: I just don't really know who's having mirrors in their

773
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 4: dining room, maybe like above, you know, like a display

774
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: case of plates. I don't know. I think I think

775
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 4: that's a curse.

776
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: Brendan wrong. I think that they're of course, they're a gift.

777
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: Two words cheap, glamor. I love the idea of Florida

778
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: ceiling mirrors surrounding a dining room table. You know, there's

779
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: something very.

780
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: What it is like Miami in the eighties.

781
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very garish, it's gaudie. It's everyone you have

782
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: to stare at yourself while you eat your last piece

783
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: of roast. It adds a real, uh, you know, just

784
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: a dimension to eating that you don't experience in other

785
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: places to turn your dining room into a hall of mirrors.

786
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: I support it completely. I don't have it in my home. No,

787
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: not yet, not yet. I think you kind of have

788
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: to get to a level of wealth where your brain

789
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: snaps and then you start, you know, filling rooms with mirrors.

790
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think it usually starts with the powder room,

791
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: right have you ever met them? Of course, one of

792
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: these houses, usually from like the seventies or eighties. Every

793
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: wall in the bathroom, including the ceiling, is a mirror.

794
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: Have you been when it is?

795
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: Of course?

796
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 4: Usually what is the what is that? Usually belongs to

797
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 4: gay men or like women on the verge. I mean,

798
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: it's like, what.

799
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: Two groups I'm in completely insupportive.

800
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 5: Just like, what the fuck are you thinking?

801
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: Okay, well you got you failed so far? That's okay.

802
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: Number two. Gift or a curse? Yard sales where all

803
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: the items are brand new.

804
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: That's like a small business.

805
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: That's like, is it a gift or a curse? I'm

806
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: not asking if it's a small business.

807
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: Like, okay, showing up to one or hosting one.

808
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: Showing up to everything's new? Hmm?

809
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 5: Are the prices? Yard sale prices?

810
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: Oh, that depends on the yard sale leader. Is that

811
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: what you would call yourself as the person the yard sale?

812
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 5: The homeowner?

813
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: Okay, I think this is cursed because I think that

814
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: if I went up to one of these and some

815
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: women art man, gay man presumably, I don't think a

816
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 4: straight man has ever done a yard sale.

817
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: Straight man just throws stuff out.

818
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: They don't give a shit about reusing unless it's tools.

819
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: If I went up to one of these things and

820
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 4: I was like, this is such a nice spot and

821
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: the woman was like, it's brand new, I'd be like, Okay,

822
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 4: that's actually not what I came here for. If I

823
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: wanted that, I would would you like steal all this

824
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: shit from a Nordstrum? Were you part of like the

825
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: Great Nordstrum Raids of December?

826
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: I checked to semi try right?

827
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, like where I'd be like, where'd you get

828
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 5: this ship?

829
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: That's such a funny question to ask someone. Regardless of

830
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: the yard sale.

831
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 5: I'd be like, why aren't you using it?

832
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: Freendon? You're correct, of course, that's a curse. I don't

833
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: go to a yard sale for new items that I

834
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: don't even think that you know I've got. There are

835
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: a decent amount of these around LA where I'll show

836
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: up to yard sale and it's all just news stuff.

837
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: That's not a yard sale. That's your weird little store

838
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: on your lawn that has call it something else. Don't

839
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: don't lead me into your trap. And suddenly I'm like

840
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: looking at you know, tun NIC's seven of the same type.

841
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: They're not unique, they're not interesting. It sounds like silver,

842
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: like it's a very silver like you know, it's not

843
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: for me. You can occasionally have one brand new thing

844
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: maybe you found, like, you know, a blender that you

845
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: didn't use in the back of a cupboard. Okay, you

846
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: can sell that at your yard sale.

847
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: But do you go to a state sales?

848
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: I love estate sale.

849
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: I fucking love estate sales.

850
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: Have you been to one recently?

851
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: I went to one recently. I woke up at like

852
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: eight thirty on a Saturday, randomly, and my boyfriend's are

853
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: really late sleeper, so I know he'll be out until

854
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 4: like eleven am.

855
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: So I was like, what can I do right now?

856
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: When I'm like at estate sales dot Com, put in

857
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: my zip code, found one down the street, got up,

858
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: walked down there, but a bunch of beautiful old women's jewelry,

859
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: this gorgeous white parka that she obviously went skiing. And

860
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: it is weird though, you are like walking through a

861
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: person's home who was probably like just put into an old.

862
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: Folks home, right, or killed brutally.

863
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: Yes, this one, it was clear that like there was

864
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that the man had had accumulated.

865
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 4: He was really into boats, and she was really into

866
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 4: like tiny figurines of angels, and it sort of felt

867
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: like they were both still around.

868
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: Oh but I so that does kind of feel like

869
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: vultures just pecking away.

870
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just taking like whatever like their kids didn't want,

871
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: you know, right.

872
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a great feeling.

873
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: But it is very fun to walk around weird homes, oh,

874
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: looking at all things that could potentially be haunted.

875
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there was a whole room just full of dolls.

876
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, there's always a room of dolls.

877
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 4: It full of like fourteen pairs of boots.

878
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Like when there's also usually like a bathroom where like

879
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: just medical supplies just been dragged out of the cabinets

880
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: and just strewn across the floor. None of you don't

881
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: want anything in a bathroom at an estate sale, like.

882
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: Oh is this old valuum. It used to be stronger.

883
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 5: Vallium.

884
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 4: Sacklers can't get them out of mind.

885
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: So we've got to bring the sacklers back. I would

886
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: love to go to a Sackler estate sale. Let's be honest.

887
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's a nice stuff.

888
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: Right, that's all brand news stuff. Okay, finally, this is

889
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: a listener suggestion. You've gotten one so far, so let's

890
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 2: hope you get this one correct. Aaron, someone named Aaron

891
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: has written in post credit scenes gift or a curse.

892
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: Okay. I recently watched a movie that had a post

893
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 4: credit scene that was setting up a sequel that clearly

894
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: this movie will never get a sequel. So in that scenario,

895
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: I think that is a curse. You know, that is

896
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 4: that is trying.

897
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 5: A little too hard.

898
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: What movie was.

899
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: I can't say because of friend's in it. Yeah, but

900
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: it's like, in that way, it's a curse. I also

901
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: think I'm just gonna go straight up curse. I really

902
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: don't like in these Marvel movies where typically in most

903
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: of them, I'm like, who's that?

904
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: Why, who's that?

905
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: What are they doing? How can she do that with

906
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 4: her fingers? I don't like how they keep bringing Samuel L.

907
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: Jackson back, Like he just shoots like thirteen one.

908
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: Days of work a year the game show.

909
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, Oh, let's just knock out all my

910
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: post credit scenes this week. And I'm like, we're paying

911
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: this man too much money to do this stuff and

912
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 4: we're not getting him in actual acting work. So I think.

913
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 5: I think it's providing him with too much work.

914
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: This is more of a just an empty Samuel L. Jackson.

915
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 4: I think he should I think he should be working.

916
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes like actors get caught in.

917
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: Stuff and you're like, We're like I can't say no

918
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: to the paycheck, right.

919
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: You're like, oh, that's an actor. I like what are

920
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 4: they up to? And then you like look and you're like, oh,

921
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: they've been in the last five X men, like I've

922
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: completely missed that and I miss there. I missed their work.

923
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: Although I guess said before this Samuel Jackson was doing

924
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: this Capital One commercials.

925
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so seeing financial trouble, what's going on, sam?

926
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: I bet it's fine. They're only few people in the

927
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 4: world who I think are fine. I'm sure he's fine.

928
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look you got it right, I think, of course,

929
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: don't make me sit through. No, you're sitting through the

930
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: credits for commercial for another movie that may or may

931
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: not come to be.

932
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 4: I just feel like the people who care about that

933
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: are always like huge dorks.

934
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: Get a live, get a lot.

935
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 4: I was just saying to a friend my mantra that

936
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to say to other people in twenty twenty

937
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 4: two is get a life.

938
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: I love telling people. I love to say get a life.

939
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: That those three words and the two other words I

940
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: love that really will shut down almost any anything who cares.

941
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 5: Who cares?

942
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: It just there's no rebuttal to who cares. It's just

943
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: I love to say it. It feels great, and telling

944
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: someone to get a life also really put someone in

945
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: their place almost immediately. There's nothing, there's no coming back

946
00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: from get a life.

947
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 5: Get a life.

948
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: Please, just get a life.

949
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 5: You can even say it to yourself.

950
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 4: Get a life, Brandon, get a life.

951
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, these post credit scenes, no, thank you, we

952
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: don't need them. You know, if you want me to

953
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: see your next movie, put out a commercial on TV

954
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: or whatever for me to find you. Don't make me sit.

955
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: And those movies, by the way, are four hours. It's

956
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: too much.

957
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: I don't like I.

958
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 5: Don't like Easter egg culture. You know it's too much.

959
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 4: I'm not reading the Reddit forum for the hidden No,

960
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 4: thank you. I am stoned passively watching your movie looking

961
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: at my phone.

962
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not seeing the eggs.

963
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 2: Well, you know you got two out of three. Not bad.

964
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean I was worried for you for a minute there,

965
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: but I'm very impressed how you turn the ship or.

966
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called

967
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: I said No emails. People write into I said No

968
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: gives a Gmail dot com. They've got questions. I do

969
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: an excellent job answering. The guest helps Will you help me?

970
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: Sure?

971
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: Here's a good one that says Highbridger. And this person

972
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: doesn't even address you, which I find very rude. Usually

973
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: they'll say something about the guest, but this just says,

974
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 2: straight up, Hybridger, I would like you to participate. Well,

975
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: then this person, of course says, love the podcast. Every

976
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: episode brings a little delight to my day. So now

977
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: I feel bad reading your own compliments. I'll read it again,

978
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: love the podcast. Every episode brings a little delight to

979
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: my day. Maybe we could get that as a pull

980
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: quote on a post or someday Anyway, here's my question.

981
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: I've been with my husband for thirteen years, and for

982
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: the past decade he has gotten me the exact same

983
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: flower arrangement as a gift for my birthday. He has

984
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: a local fancy florist that he uses, and they make

985
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: me the exact same and dot dot elaborate tropical bouquet

986
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 2: every time. I think the first time I received them,

987
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: I was effusive about how pretty they were, and now

988
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: this is his go to. I appreciate the sentiment, and

989
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: I know they're expensive, okay, but after ten years, I'd

990
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 2: really love to get something different. Am I an ungrateful monster?

991
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: Or is there a way to ask for a change

992
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: this year? Thanks for brightening my day? And that's from

993
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: just the letter k K could be Christy, Christine, Karen?

994
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: What was yours? Kareem? Kareem? Carol combat Carol?

995
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

996
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: I would love a Carol with the K K A

997
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: R Y L. Candy Candace Conroy. Anyway, So this person's

998
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: been getting the same beautiful, elaborate tropical tropical bunch of

999
00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: flowers for a decade and she's had enough. Is she

1000
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: an ungrateful monster? Or is there a way to ask

1001
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: for a change this year. Well, it can be both, Carol.

1002
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: I will just say flat out, you're an ungrateful monster.

1003
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 2: Let's just put it out there. You're a bad wife

1004
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: and a difficult partner. But your husband, we don't know

1005
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: that much about him, other than the fact that he's thoughtless.

1006
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 4: I feel like this is about something else. I am

1007
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 4: getting a sense from her that she really likes how

1008
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 4: he is and how he has been for thirteen years.

1009
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 4: But she's trying to open up their relationship so interesting.

1010
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: I'm getting a stasis is getting She's getting the thirteen

1011
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: year inch, right, thirteen year not the thirteen year inch.

1012
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 4: She wants it now, HAUNTI, oh, just murder me. I'm

1013
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 4: getting a sense that this is about something else.

1014
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: She's eyeing the exit sign. She wants out, or she

1015
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: just wants Oh.

1016
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: Maybe she just wants to change, you know, like she

1017
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: wants him to spice things up, right. I think here's

1018
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 4: one thing. You have to be willing to communicate with

1019
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 4: your partner about what you like and what you don't like,

1020
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: and that can include what you're bored of, right, you know,

1021
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: so just next time he gets that for you, subtenly,

1022
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 4: be like, I hate.

1023
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: This kind of just dump in the trash.

1024
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: Just be like, I heard of this great new florist,

1025
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 4: or just start showing him instagrams of flower arrangements that

1026
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 4: you like and be like, Babe, look at this.

1027
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: I don't know friend, and this is horrible advice. This

1028
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: is giving us a little peek into however, your your

1029
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: poor boyfriend is probably having to pick up on clues.

1030
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: This woman has a clear problem with her husband. She's

1031
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: got to communicate that. She can't be hinting around it.

1032
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: He's never going to get it. He's been doing this.

1033
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 2: He's stuck in a routine. She needs to be Look, kay,

1034
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: Carol Conroy Conrad, you need to look at you wrote

1035
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: this email. And this is kind of like a little test,

1036
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: a little tryout of expressing your feelings. She express them

1037
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: to me. So for a minute, just you imagined I

1038
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: was your husband. Now use the practice you've got here

1039
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: on your husband.

1040
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: So I actually have a liar's idea for you, Karen.

1041
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh, what what you.

1042
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: Do is when you know the order, he calls in

1043
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: the order, call the floris, go in, befriended them and

1044
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: be like, here's my dilemma. Can you make me something

1045
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: completely different? Completely better, more to my taste, and deliver it.

1046
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 4: And then when my husband's like, it's different this year,

1047
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: be like, oh my god, I'm obsessed with it. I

1048
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 4: love this one. It's so cool that it's different this year.

1049
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: It'd be so crazy if I got a different one

1050
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 4: every year. Next year, do the same thing. Go into

1051
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: this place and be like I want something new, and

1052
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: get in his head.

1053
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 5: Start the pattern. Take control of your own flowers.

1054
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: Way easier than just going to him directly. I mean,

1055
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: why not apply for a job at the floors. Then

1056
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: you can just intercept the call and just do your own.

1057
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: You're probably getting an employee discount. He's probably giving his

1058
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: credit card number over the phone. Suddenly you're buying a

1059
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: bunch of things for yourself online.

1060
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: You could also photoshop an article that accuses the flowership

1061
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: that he like of being racist.

1062
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: Unless he's a racist. Oh yeah, well then he's gonna

1063
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: be doubling down.

1064
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: Whenever your husband doesn't like what if they hate tools?

1065
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: The displace hates tools, and then he'll have to go

1066
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: to a new place.

1067
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: This is an episode of all improvement. Well, k, look

1068
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: you've gotten the exact little bit of medicine. You needed.

1069
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: I think that this is going to solve all of

1070
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: your problems between you and your husband. Like Brendan was saying,

1071
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: I think it is time to open your relationship. Just

1072
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: open it wide open. Maybe you've got an eye your

1073
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: eye on the floorist.

1074
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 5: I know you know, you got those nimble fingers.

1075
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: You know, always smells of tulips and carnations. I think

1076
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: that's a good opportunity for both of you. Okay, Brendan,

1077
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: we did a perfect job. I feel great and I've

1078
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: been in a hat this entire time, which is so comforting.

1079
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 4: You look great.

1080
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: It's given me a new, you know, new confidence that

1081
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to march forward in the

1082
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: new year with I'll be able to pair this with

1083
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: my tunic. I'm basically just building kind of a little

1084
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: treasure chest to take to the beach or to Palm Springs,

1085
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: or to brunch or to brunch at in Palm Springs.

1086
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Who's to say. I've had a wonderful time with you here.

1087
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here.

1088
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 5: So great to chat, good to catch up.

1089
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: Proud of you.

1090
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: Hap it for you, Thank you, thank you for saying that.

1091
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: And listener, it's now time for you to, you know,

1092
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: find something to do for the next seven days until

1093
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: the next episode comes out. I hope that you're not

1094
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: completely adrift without me, but if you are, you can always,

1095
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, dial in an old episode, you can try

1096
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: to find where I live. You can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: That's your life and you've got to make those choices

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Speaker 2: for yourself. So goodbye. I'll talk to you soon. I said,

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Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and

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Speaker 2: engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and the theme

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Speaker 2: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow

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Speaker 2: the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's

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Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

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Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. Listen

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Speaker 2: and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me.

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Speaker 2: And why not leave a review while you're there. It's

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Speaker 2: really the least you could do, considering everything I do

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Speaker 2: for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show,

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Speaker 2: go to midrool dot com slash ads.

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Speaker 4: Invit.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear fun a man? Myself? Perfectly clear? But

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Speaker 1: you're a.

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Speaker 3: Guest to me. You gotta come to be empty, and

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Speaker 3: I said, no, guest, your own presence is presence enough

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Speaker 3: that I already.

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Speaker 2: Had too much stuff.

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Speaker 4: So how do you dare to surbey me?