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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm great. Time by Steve Taskers down to tex Down.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health. We're

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from across the parking lot, from that field

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Speaker 1: that the people on MSG are looking at right now.

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Speaker 1: The brand new turf laid out, looks great, all set

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Speaker 1: ready to go. Mmmmmmmm looks yummy on a day like today.

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Speaker 1: The blue end zone shining the controversial blue end zones

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Speaker 1: that some people want, the red ones, some people want

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Speaker 1: their blue ones. Steve Tasker here along to it with

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Speaker 1: you today. Murph is still on vacation, and we are

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Speaker 1: joined today by our special guest host, Tyler Dunn, a

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Speaker 1: Bleacher Report. Tyler, Tyler, thanks for being here, man, It's

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Speaker 1: great to be here. Steve, thanks for letting me fill

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Speaker 1: in here. Thanks for taking a day and coming out

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Speaker 1: with us. I appreciate it. We're gonna be here from

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Speaker 1: noon till three. We're gonna be talking about all the

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Speaker 1: stuff Buffalo Bills got. It's just gonna be you and

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Speaker 1: me and plus our callers today. If you want to

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Speaker 1: get in on our conversation about the Buffalo Bills, you

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Speaker 1: can do that. If you like, you can call us

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Speaker 1: like at the old numbers like always eight or three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty or one eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. We're gonna be here till three o'clock. And

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Speaker 1: I was off all last week. Murph has been off

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Speaker 1: for two weeks and he's gonna remain off the rest

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Speaker 1: of this week. So he's taken all his vacation at once.

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Speaker 1: Me I sprinkle it throughout the year, Murph. It's like

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Speaker 1: one big gulp. It takes the month of July off,

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Speaker 1: of weeks. It's been it'll be three weeks total when

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Speaker 1: he gets back. But it'll be me today with you,

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Speaker 1: and then tomorrow Chris Brown will be back in with

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Speaker 1: us for the rest of the week. Thanks for coming in. Man. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's it's great being here. It really is. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's I was just we were just talking earlier, just

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Speaker 1: great to go back and look at that, just for kicks,

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Speaker 1: the Four Falls of Buffalo. He's talk yeah exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was traveling for work, so it was

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Speaker 1: just on an airplane. Head down and was able to

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Speaker 1: watch the whole thing again. It was It's remarkable to

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Speaker 1: relive that all. I mean, all the detail that was involved,

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Speaker 1: and I just loved you're rolling at all. You were

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Speaker 1: really keeping it real, man, It was you were honest.

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Speaker 1: My former teammates will tell you that too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the things I like about, you know,

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Speaker 1: those guys that were part of those nineties teams in

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Speaker 1: the four Falls of Buffalo, the team that went to

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Speaker 1: four straight Super Bowls and all that yigotyak. But the

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Speaker 1: fun part about it is those guys and I we

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Speaker 1: can really say anything to each other. Yeah. At this point,

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Speaker 1: even now, we're pushing you know, I'm fifty seven, and

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Speaker 1: Even Thurman turned fifty a year or two ago. So

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Speaker 1: to have the ability to even at this point in

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Speaker 1: that we can be brutally honest even to this day

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Speaker 1: bad and publicly and privately that even today, and I

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Speaker 1: told you about this, the you know, the text loop

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Speaker 1: they did with that thirty for thirty was it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: It's really such a huge key to success. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And then you watch that and it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: all the things they did. It was it was cool

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Speaker 1: to watch, man. I always tell people it's like I

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Speaker 1: was a roadie for the Beatles, you know, I got

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. And plus nowadays, and you've seen this too,

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Speaker 1: the breakup of that. Social media's changed everything. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: it's made it possible for everybody to kind of keep

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Speaker 1: abreast of everything that's going on right away. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the case back then. It took a little

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Speaker 1: much or more easy than it was good then, you

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Speaker 1: do now. The confrontation is a great thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is, it can help, Yeah, but who wants to

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Speaker 1: I'd rather just stuff it and then have it emerged

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Speaker 1: later as an explosion. Right. That's healthy. That's a good right,

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Speaker 1: it's a good as I think it's a healthy way

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Speaker 1: to go. I know, I'm teasing. You can join us though.

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Speaker 1: Eight h three oh five fifty Steve tasking on with

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Speaker 1: Tyler dunne in for the Day one Bills Live. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be here till three o'clock talking about We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about that you've written about.

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Speaker 1: That are the stuff that's going on in the in

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Speaker 1: the world of sports. Did you check out the Women's

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Speaker 1: like a lot of folks, it's kind of like you

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Speaker 1: refreshing woe just Twitter, you know, twenty four seven to

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Speaker 1: see who's changing deeds that camp. We got all that

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Speaker 1: it was absolutely pretty good week for me. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of you know, it's dropped into the middle

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Speaker 1: July on the third, right, because everybody's got the fourth

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Speaker 1: me right where working right Well, I think that the

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Speaker 1: or a week. You can't go straight IPA for four

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Speaker 1: you're then you're crashing Monday. Though. You gotta you gotta prepare,

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna watch the kids for these hours when I'm

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Speaker 1: out with the guys or whatever, when I'm golfing on

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Speaker 1: got the kids? And that's kind of right for me.

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Speaker 1: Empty nest. I'm a little bit of a roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of you know. I on the

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Speaker 1: on we had like somebody else's party. On the third right,

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Speaker 1: I was over My son lives right in the village, right,

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Speaker 1: so he has the big barbecue, right, and for the change,

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Speaker 1: everybody to be able. So we go over to his place.

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Speaker 1: know people wait very very you know, very very with

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Speaker 1: expectant breath about what our Twitter question is going to

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Speaker 1: be every day, But this is it. It's very simple.

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Speaker 1: Are the Buffalo Bills set up well enough now for

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Speaker 1: long term success? And certainly, and here's my and here's

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Speaker 1: how I see this question. You don't have to see

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Speaker 1: it the way I do out there and for our

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Speaker 1: listeners and viewers. Are the Bills set up well enough

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Speaker 1: for long term success? And here's this It certainly it

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Speaker 1: depends on how the guys, you know, depends on Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen how it's gonna be. But here's the thing. Long

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Speaker 1: term success goes beyond and individual player. It goes beyond

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Speaker 1: any individual draft. It goes beyond any individual free agent

436
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Speaker 1: or any player that they've signed or a group of

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Speaker 1: players that they've signed. Are they set up with the

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Speaker 1: philosophy that's going to allow them to compete consistently year

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Speaker 1: in year out. You see other franchises do it. Obviously,

440
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Speaker 1: the gold standard is the New England Patriots and what

441
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Speaker 1: they've been under do in the unprecedented run that they

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Speaker 1: put together for the last nineteen year, eighteen nineteen years.

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Speaker 1: It's unprecedented the run they have. Are they you see

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. They'll have a down year here and there,

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Speaker 1: but they're consistently competing. The Baltimore Ravens the same kind

446
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Speaker 1: of thing. And maybe some other franchises you can think

447
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Speaker 1: of that are escaping me that are going to be

448
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Speaker 1: you know, that are sustainable. The Seahawks have been sustainable

449
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Speaker 1: throughout this decade. Are the Bills set up to do that?

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Speaker 1: Certainly the juries out as to the results, but are

451
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Speaker 1: they set up in the way that you would think

452
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Speaker 1: they would be. I mean, I'm sure we'll get into

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Speaker 1: the personnel, and obviously the quarterback is number one one,

454
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Speaker 1: But it does start with the ownership, right, I mean,

455
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Speaker 1: it really does start at the top. I mean, and

456
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: it starts at the top in every sports league. I mean,

457
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Speaker 1: look no further than this this past week, right, with

458
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Speaker 1: the New York Knicks. There at the supposed mecca Pro Basketball,

459
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Speaker 1: the Madison Square Garden, where we all assume these stars

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Speaker 1: want to play in the big market. Well, nobody wants

461
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Speaker 1: to play for James don't want. Yeah, it's one thing

462
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Speaker 1: after another with that guy, whether it's kicking fans out

463
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Speaker 1: or sparring with Charles Oakley. They just can't get out

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Speaker 1: of their own way. I think here in Buffalo, I mean,

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Speaker 1: say what you want about all the coaches, all the gms,

466
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Speaker 1: all of the quarterbacks, all the players have come through

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Speaker 1: the door. And we were talking about a little earlier.

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Speaker 1: The ownership is it is solid. They're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 1: put money where it needs to go. They're gonna try,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna take those swings at the plate. And when

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Speaker 1: you have that, you have a chance. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I think the point that you might be taken is that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it starts with that foundation. And I think it really

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Speaker 1: comes down to that quarterback. Though you got it's in

475
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Speaker 1: this league, it's so important. I mean it starts there

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Speaker 1: on the field. Long term I think is if if

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen doesn't work out, there's gonna be ramifications. One

478
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Speaker 1: way or another. I don't know what those ramifications are,

479
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Speaker 1: but that's just the cold heard reality for every team

480
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, and it does come. Now Here's

481
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Speaker 1: the thing. Current success certainly comes about from the players,

482
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Speaker 1: but long term success comes about from stability. Comes from

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Speaker 1: stability at the top plus great leadership at the top.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you there's been a couple of things that

485
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Speaker 1: have happened that have really made me sit up and go, wow,

486
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Speaker 1: they get it. About this ownership group with the Buffalo Bills,

487
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Speaker 1: I was. I can't tell you how impressed I was

488
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Speaker 1: when they pulled the plug on Rex Ryan after two

489
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Speaker 1: years it was not gonna work, and not being in

490
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Speaker 1: the building, I heard some things I knew it wasn't

491
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Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, we're gonna have to suffer through

492
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Speaker 1: this for a while. The five year content and they

493
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Speaker 1: were like, he's done. They got it quick. And then

494
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Speaker 1: when they jumped back in for their second round of

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Speaker 1: hirings about head coach and stuff, man, I think they

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Speaker 1: hit a home run with these two guys, with Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermott. The way they see things, the

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Speaker 1: way they've done things, the decisions they've made, certainly not

499
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Speaker 1: everything has been perfect, and they missed on some things,

500
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Speaker 1: but they've self admittedly done something like they self and

501
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Speaker 1: me said Listen. Brandon be and said, Listen, I waited

502
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Speaker 1: too long to bring in a veteran quarterback. Last year

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Speaker 1: they went in to the season with Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: Nate Peterman who was virtually a rookie. That's not where

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Speaker 1: you want to go. And he says, I waited too

506
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Speaker 1: long to fix that. Yeah, he gets it. The ownership

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Speaker 1: was saying, yeah, okay, let's do a better job next time.

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Speaker 1: They're always self evaluating some of the moves they made,

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Speaker 1: the way they have stayed in the lines with their plan,

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Speaker 1: not overpaying for big free agents, getting these middle of

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Speaker 1: the road free agents, putting a lot of guys on

512
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Speaker 1: single year contracts, prove it deals, guys who are highly motivated,

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Speaker 1: bringing in the right type of guys, saying no to

514
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Speaker 1: some other guys. Checking on every great player that was

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Speaker 1: out there. Word got out about the Antonio Brown thing,

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Speaker 1: the Levion Bell. They're checking on all these great players

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Speaker 1: that are available, Khalil Mack. Last year, they made phone

518
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Speaker 1: calls inquired, what's it going to take? Is that something

519
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Speaker 1: we want to do, and in some cases they said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'd like to try. In another case they said, no way.

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Speaker 1: All of that stuff leads me to believe they're not

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Speaker 1: leaving any stone unturned. Plus, you talk about the leadership

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Speaker 1: at the top. This is an ownership group that has

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Speaker 1: invested big time out of their own pocket for this

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Speaker 1: new facility here. And the fact that this ownership group

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Speaker 1: seems to see a couple of things that are very

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Speaker 1: clear to people who live here. One, there are some

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Speaker 1: unique challenges in Buffalo. Yes, this facility answers one of them.

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Speaker 1: You've got to have guys that come in and see

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Speaker 1: this program as going the extra mile for the players

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Speaker 1: they've got in this building, the recovery, the facilities they provide,

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Speaker 1: the culture that they're promoting, the way they support their

533
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Speaker 1: guys off the field, the way that they're they're staffed

534
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Speaker 1: here to get these guys healthy, keep them healthy, look

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Speaker 1: after them off the field so they can get on

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Speaker 1: the field quicker, so they can be healthier to practice

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Speaker 1: us and play, and put you know, millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: behind it. That's a huge statement that makes this market

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Speaker 1: and this community, this program, this franchise attractive to free

540
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: agents it's huge. You're not gonna put a beach at

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Speaker 1: lake Erie. You're not gonna woods pretty nice. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna put Broadway on Lake Erie. You're not gonna put

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Speaker 1: a Jerry World on lake Erie. But you do have

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Speaker 1: some things here that you sell. And it's the program

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Speaker 1: and some of the things that they put money into

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Speaker 1: that makes this attractive for free agents. We heard that

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Speaker 1: throughout the process. That's one thing. The second thing is

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Speaker 1: that this ownership group seems to really get you have

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Speaker 1: to have players, and you have to say, hey, listen,

550
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be here, this is what it's about.

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Speaker 1: And they have to embrace Buffalo. They got to want

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Speaker 1: to be in this market for this team, for these fans.

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Speaker 1: They got to see the family thing, the collegiate thing,

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Speaker 1: the fan base thing, the raw raw thing. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: can say, you can say you can poop poo it

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Speaker 1: if you want, but it's real. I think it's real.

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Speaker 1: You were there. I mean players, players got to know

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00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: that's part of the gig. And when you get players

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Speaker 1: like that in the in the door, and I think

560
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: the ownership promotes that they get it too. They want

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Speaker 1: that's why they're so big in to bring in former

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Speaker 1: greats into this market. They know guys who have played

563
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: here coached here before, know how important it is to

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Speaker 1: be part of the fan base and to acknowledge it.

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Speaker 1: And I think this ownership really gets that. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of the reasons that I'd have to

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Speaker 1: answer yeah big time about whether this club is set

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Speaker 1: up for long term success. I don't know you. I

569
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Speaker 1: don't know if you have your own thoughts. I mean,

570
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: obviously everybody's got their own opinion. I mean, I agree

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Speaker 1: with with all the above. I mean, they're willing to

572
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Speaker 1: go to the extra mile where other teams aren't. And

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Speaker 1: I think, you know not to pick on certain teams,

574
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Speaker 1: but I mean Cincinnati Bengals, for example, they don't really

575
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Speaker 1: pour a lot of money into scouting. They don't pour

576
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Speaker 1: a lot of money into a lot of areas. Cleveland

577
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Brown's ownership, it's kind of been a mess, and you

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Speaker 1: know they're hoping to turn the corner with the personnel

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Speaker 1: they have. One thing I'll say, though, is the reason

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Speaker 1: I point to the quarterback. It's like, I'm a team

581
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: like Green Bay faced the same kind of challenge as

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Speaker 1: Buffalo does in terms of some recruiting free agents and

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Speaker 1: even eating Green Bay's unique from Buffalo. But yeah, I

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00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: get you, but you know that when Don Mikowski goes

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Speaker 1: down and Brett five steps in, then Aaron Rodgers takes

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Speaker 1: over for Brett five. You're talking about two generations there

587
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame quarterback play. They had a magnetic

588
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: pull then to free agents that built a winning culture.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Reggie White all of a sudden wants to

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Speaker 1: play for the Packers. So they drafted really well. And

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Speaker 1: you have to draft well if you're a team like

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Speaker 1: Green Bay or Buffalo and build from within. So it

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Speaker 1: starts there with the quarterback. And that's why when you

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Speaker 1: look at Buffalo and the two back to back drafts,

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at the Patrick mahomes Is, Deshaun Watson,

596
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Josh, I mean they

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Speaker 1: kind of pinpointed that time as when they need to

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger on a quarterback. You come away with

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Out hit on Josh Allen because I think

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Speaker 1: that's the first domino that tips for that long term success.

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Speaker 1: And and granted they don't have you know, ownership is huge.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you but if the quarterback gets

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Speaker 1: hurt at the quarterback doesn't get accurate or struggles, I mean,

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Speaker 1: everything could struggle off of that. Yeah, but here's the thing,

605
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: and I get that too, but that to me, that

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00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: quarterback thing is about the here and now. And you

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Speaker 1: talk about a long term or what happens if Aaron

608
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Speaker 1: Rodgers gets hurt. You know what happens if if Russell

609
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Speaker 1: Wilson gets hurt or you know, you name the quarterback,

610
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady or whoever. That's true of any team, but

611
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Speaker 1: there are only certain teams who are built for long

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Speaker 1: term success that that seems like they go through the

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Speaker 1: quarterbackless eras better than anybody else. Green Bay struggled for

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Speaker 1: decades before they got Brett Farve. Even Don mckowski was like,

615
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: he's okay, And then Brett fire stepped and they go, wow,

616
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: look at this guy. And he blossomed there under the

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00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: right circumstances. So yeah, I get that the quarterback is

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00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: the guy that makes you success in the here and now.

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Speaker 1: But the program and the and the culture and the

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Speaker 1: ownership and the leadership general manager of head coach, all

621
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: of that stuff is about sustaining and not you know,

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Speaker 1: not veering outside the plan for any one guy or

623
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Speaker 1: anyone coach. Even so, I think for long term stability,

624
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: that's where the stability it has to come from. Stability,

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00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: not you know, not from any one move or one guy.

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Speaker 1: I think you talk about a calming kind of organis

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rex Ryan isn't going to give you that

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Speaker 1: sustain success. Doug Whalley, with some of those contracts being

629
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: are thrown around, isn't gonna give you that sustained success.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've I covered the Bills that sees Rex

631
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Ryan's first season, and he just didn't know what was

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Speaker 1: going to happen week to week. Is he's gonna walk

633
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Speaker 1: out in the Clemson helmet? Is guy going to demand

634
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Speaker 1: the ball and then get the ball as he showed up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just never really knew what was going

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Speaker 1: Western New York for good and things are solidified where

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Speaker 1: they needed to be solidified. So that's huge. Coming up

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Speaker 1: after the break, we might talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: which free agent that the Bills have signed might make

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Speaker 1: the biggest impact, and it'll be an interesting because I

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Speaker 1: got I want to quantify that in a certain way

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Speaker 1: as well. This is One Bill's Live Tyler Done Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: Tyler in for today for Murph. Murph's out for the week.

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Speaker 1: It's me and him for today. If you want to

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Speaker 1: get out in the conversation. Eight to three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty or eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: ends outside of Buffalo One Bills Live, presented by Kalidah

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Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live Steeve task along with

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Speaker 1: Tyler Dunne filling in for Murf today, who's out for

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Speaker 1: the week. Still in a summer vacation, and we back

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Speaker 1: and we'll be starting to wind up and get on

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Speaker 1: the home stretch for training camp. We're asking a question

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Speaker 1: today of Bills fans. Are the Bills set up well

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Speaker 1: enough for long term success? And we've got some people

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Speaker 1: chiming in and we're also going to talk in this

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Speaker 1: segment a little bit about which free agent is going

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Speaker 1: to make the biggest impact in two nineteen. And it's interesting, mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways to look at that, and

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Speaker 1: are they which one's gonna make the long which one's

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Speaker 1: gonna make the biggest difference from twenty and eighteen. There

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Speaker 1: may be somebody who can make a bigger difference or

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Speaker 1: make a bigger contribution who's been a free agent. But man,

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Speaker 1: you look at last year. You know the Bill's defense

666
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Speaker 1: was more than solid. It was a top three defense

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Speaker 1: in all the major categories. But you know which of

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Speaker 1: those free agents. So one of those free agents will

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Speaker 1: be contributing a lot. But the biggest difference from last

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Speaker 1: year to this year is certainly gonna maybe probably be

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side. Right, It's gonna be like, who

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Speaker 1: knows if Mitch Morrise is gonna make the huge difference

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Speaker 1: if if Josh Allen has a big year, is it

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Speaker 1: because of Mitch Morse or is it because of you know,

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, John Brown or one of these other guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, So who's gonna either who's gonna make the

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Speaker 1: biggest impact in two thousand nineteen or who makes the

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Speaker 1: biggest difference in two thousand nineteen. N says on my

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Speaker 1: thing here, it says impact in two thousand and nine team.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's the biggest difference from

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Speaker 1: last year to this year. Boy, And that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of the thing I was looking at where you we

683
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Speaker 1: debate these Twitter questions a ton, and that's the reason.

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Speaker 1: Is it the biggest impact or is the biggest difference?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was the off season that this was

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Speaker 1: Brandon being and shows off season. Right, they got a

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Speaker 1: big one. This was huge. I mean, they got rid

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Speaker 1: of a lot of bad contracts and it wasn't easy.

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Speaker 1: They were They were able to cleanse the roster, took

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Speaker 1: their medicine. They did. And you know what, was every

691
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Speaker 1: decision the right one? Probably not. They let some good

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Speaker 1: players out the doors to find Gilmore probably should have

693
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Speaker 1: been the Super Bowl MVP, but obviously you can play

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Speaker 1: that game with a lot of guys. They wanted to

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Speaker 1: start from scratch, bring in the players they wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring in via draft, via free agency. It's year three,

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00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: so now you need to see results. Now these players

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Speaker 1: that have brought in need to produce. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's the offensive side of the ball. The defense is

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Speaker 1: a top five defense, and most statistical categories you look

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Speaker 1: at it, it's a really good defense, no question about it. Absolutely,

702
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Speaker 1: And they got better. I mean, and they got better

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Speaker 1: that you take it at Oliver there with your first

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Speaker 1: round pick, you're making a good defense, you hope great offensively?

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Speaker 1: Did they do enough? Is there a player that was

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Speaker 1: signed that terrifies you as a defensive coordinator. They wanted

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Speaker 1: to get that player in Antonio Brown. It didn't work out,

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Speaker 1: but I thought their plan B was pretty solid. I

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Speaker 1: mean John Brown, Cole Beasley, even Frank Gore. You're bringing

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Speaker 1: in players that want to be here, which is can

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Speaker 1: be difficult. I think it's John Brown, though. I think

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Speaker 1: that you need him to be a bona fide number

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Speaker 1: one receiver. When you look at young quarterbacks and that

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Speaker 1: jump that the great ones make, it's it's typically because

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Speaker 1: of or in a large part of that number one

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Speaker 1: coming in and being a legit throughout. I mean, John

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Speaker 1: Brown is somebody averaged seventeen yards per catch last year

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Speaker 1: when he had a big arm, Joe Flacco a big arm,

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer throwing him the ball. He can burn anybody deep.

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Speaker 1: And that's what they hope they have in Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Is Josh Allen ever going to be that quarterback that's

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Speaker 1: gonna slay Sin Dice? You had death by a thousand

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Speaker 1: paper cuts, you know, seventy percent completion percentage. They hope

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Speaker 1: but probably not. But he might be somebody that has

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Speaker 1: two or three big plays the game, and John Brown

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Speaker 1: needs to be that guy who produces those big And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that you don't know. Certainly, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: is looking to improving every aspect of his game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he'll tell you that. Everybody says that. It's a kind

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Speaker 1: of the cliche way to go about it. Everybody's trying

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Speaker 1: to get better every day. But is there any reason

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Speaker 1: to believe that Cole Beasley couldn't be the number one

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Speaker 1: receiver like all the guys in New England with Edelman

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Speaker 1: and and uh Wes Welker and you know, Danny Woodhead,

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Speaker 1: who have been that over the years for those guys.

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Speaker 1: You look back at the real year that New England

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Speaker 1: had when they were almost undefeated through you know, nineteen games.

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Speaker 1: They had Randy Moss as their number one, right, that's different.

739
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: That was different. But since then in the years around that,

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Speaker 1: it has been the slot guy for them. Can Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: You're right, that's the big question. Can Josh Allen be

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Speaker 1: a guy who changes from a guy who wants to

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Speaker 1: push the ball deep, who did it in college, who

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Speaker 1: they asked to do it in college and who they

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Speaker 1: kind of promoted to do that. This last season is

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Speaker 1: rookie season to give him a chance to throw it

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Speaker 1: deep and try and take the lid off the defense

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Speaker 1: because their running game wasn't working. Is he going to

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Speaker 1: be one of those guys that can find a guy

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Speaker 1: like Cole Beasley eight times a game, ten times a game,

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Speaker 1: which is what you're you're asking a guy to do.

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Speaker 1: You want a guy with a round one hundred catches

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Speaker 1: a game, right, and that's what it's going to be

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Speaker 1: eight or ten times a game. So yeah, that's it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see if that can happen. But you

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Speaker 1: say you need a number one guy, certainly need a

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Speaker 1: guy who's his favorite, who he goes to and he

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Speaker 1: can complete sixty five seventy percent of his passes. That's

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Speaker 1: the big number that everybody looks at and and says,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's got to change. I don't know, I

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00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: don't know that Is that the biggest free agent you know,

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Speaker 1: acquisition one of those two guys? That's I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if like you, I know, the Josh Allen got got

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Speaker 1: killed obviously through the pre draft process, all the Twitter scouts,

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Speaker 1: you know, had a field day with Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: the completion percentage, and you can't teach accuracy, and all

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Speaker 1: of us. I think that the Brandon being, I think

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Speaker 1: Brandon Being and Sean McDermott and all the coaches kind

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00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: of knew that about Josh Allen and that maybe he

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Speaker 1: isn't going to be Tom Brady who's gonna sit in

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Speaker 1: the pocket and dissect you, but he can be a

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Speaker 1: weapon that not many teams have. A weapon that is

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Speaker 1: a threat to run for a thousand yards, a weapon

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Speaker 1: that is gonna chuck at sixty seventy yards deep to

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Speaker 1: a John Brown, to a Robert Foster. And it's a

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Speaker 1: big play league, and I think that the Bills are

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00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: hoping that their defense is gonna hold teams to a

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Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns. Jo, you know, Josh Allen's gonna make

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Speaker 1: a couple big plays a game, and you just kind

780
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: of hit on it there. Briefly. They have to run

781
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: the ball better, right it starts. It starts there because

782
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: then you can work off the play action. Then you

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Speaker 1: get those one on one matchups with a Brown with

784
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Speaker 1: a Foster, z A Jones, Cole Beasley. If they run

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Speaker 1: better with a revamped offensive line, you set up the

786
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Speaker 1: big plays. That's kind of the formula I think the

787
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: Bills are hoping for here. Yeah, you can't think that

788
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, they're not gonna reinvent football. They

789
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Speaker 1: got to do it somehow, some way that we've seen

790
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Speaker 1: other teams do it. And I think one of the

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00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: things and you look at the highs and lows, and

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's never going to be accurate. He's never gonna

793
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Speaker 1: complete more than fifty three percent of his passes. He's

794
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: never gonna, you know, throw for three hundred yards a game,

795
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Speaker 1: you know, consistently. And then there's guys who man and

796
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: me and me, and I've made this case before. He

797
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: did complete sixty five plus percent of his passing his

798
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: last game last year, and it was because they made

799
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Speaker 1: a concerted effort for him to do that. They wanted

800
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: him to think about doing that. As we saw during

801
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: the course of that last second half of the year,

802
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: he did make decisions during the week and was coached

803
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: up during the week to do things differently on Sunday,

804
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: and we would see it every week. He would throw

805
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Speaker 1: the football away in certain situations, he'd slide, he wouldn't

806
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: take the hit in certain situations, he would check it

807
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: down in certain situations. You know, he'd go deep, he'd

808
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, throw different route, you know, just different things

809
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: he did differently that you could see from one week

810
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: to the next. So it gives you this hope that

811
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Speaker 1: he can make decisions about his own game and evolve

812
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Speaker 1: as a quarterback. I think the thing about it is

813
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Speaker 1: we've made the casear I've made the case here on

814
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: the thing that he could be one of those guys

815
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Speaker 1: if he just takes the easy completion like he did

816
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Speaker 1: in Week seventeen against the Dolphins. I think what's going

817
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: to happen is something in between that. Right, Yeah, he

818
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Speaker 1: may not be a seventy percent completion percentage guy and

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Speaker 1: maybe not a fifty three. We could get, you know,

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Speaker 1: sixty one or sixty two, and that's a significant difference.

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Speaker 1: It could go from them being averaging fourteen points a

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Speaker 1: game to maybe twenty three points a game just on him,

823
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Speaker 1: and by doing so, then the running game is better,

824
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Speaker 1: with the offensive line of the running games better. Maybe

825
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: that boosts that a little bit. Because he was working

826
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Speaker 1: against both things. One, he was rookie and he wanted

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Speaker 1: to push the ball deep all the time, and dude,

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00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: he didn't have a running game and he didn't have

829
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: time to throw the football right even you know, it's

830
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: a recipe for failure. A rookie behind a rough offense

831
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Speaker 1: of line with no running game who needed experience and

832
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: some possession receivers on his squad to help him. Now

833
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: that these all all of those things have kind of

834
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: been answered in one way, shape or form, we'll see

835
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: if on all fronts they get better, which makes all

836
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Speaker 1: the fronts get even better because they have a little

837
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: help they haven't you know, they have a running game

838
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Speaker 1: that they don't have to throw it on second and

839
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Speaker 1: seven every time. Right, they don't have a you know,

840
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Speaker 1: because if they don't throw it on second and seven,

841
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: they can run it and they can get it to

842
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: third and two instead of being third and third and seven. Yeah, right, yeah,

843
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: after handing the ball off. So maybe all those things

844
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: working on concert with each other so that they'll get

845
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: even better than they would have individually. I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be in the middle of that somewhere. I don't think,

847
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Speaker 1: you know, Josh is all of a sudden next year

848
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: are going to be a seventy percent passer. But I

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Speaker 1: do think he's going to be significantly better from fifty three.

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Speaker 1: He could get to sixty. You know, that's a reasonable joke.

851
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: It's a reasonable jump. And we've seen him, you know,

852
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Speaker 1: do that at least in one game on a day

853
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: when after the game he said, you know, that's kind

854
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Speaker 1: of what we were trying to do. And they you know,

855
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: they hung all those points on the Dolphins. I don't

856
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: know if that'll happen, but that's what we're looking at.

857
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean, and that the elephant in the room is

858
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: that offensive line, isn't I mean, they were really bad

859
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: up front. I mean it. I think this transitions a

860
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Speaker 1: little bit to you know, the name everybody's thrown around

861
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: right now, Leshaw McCoy. But it's like, how how good?

862
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: How bad was Leshaw McCoy last last year average in

863
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: three point two yards to carry and he's gonna be

864
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: thirty one in four days? Is that really your number? One?

865
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: Moving forward? And how does Frank or factor and Devin

866
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: singletary factoring. But it does start with the offensive line

867
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: maybe opening up some more holes, giving Josh Allen just

868
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: to tick longer to make that throw deep. Um, it

869
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: starts there for sure. Yeah, I agree with you. I

870
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: agree with you. We're gonna come We're gonna take a

871
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: break One Bills Live presented by Collida to Hell. We're

872
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: gonna come back and talk a little bit about what's

873
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: going on in Miami. Ryan Fitzpatrick, former Buffalo Bills quarterback,

874
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: had a little bit of things to say about what

875
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: he thought, what people think of him as a quarter back,

876
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: what he's always thought of himself as it's happened through

877
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: his career. Also, or the Bills set up well enough

878
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: for long term success. You can call us at eight

879
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: or three oh five fifty or eight to eight five

880
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. This is One Bills Live from

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00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

882
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live Steve Task along with Tyler Dunne and

883
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: for Murph for the day, we're talking about or the

884
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: Bills set up well enough for long term success. We're

885
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: getting a lot of feedback on from the tweet sheet

886
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: from Operation twenty two. He says, I believe the Bills

887
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: are set up good for the future. The only potential

888
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: problems I see are an aging edge rusher crew and

889
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: potential they may not want to overpay Shack Lawson. We

890
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: also have a linebacker hole after Lorenzo retires. So yeah,

891
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you it's been a long time since

892
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: you looked at this team and this organization said, yeah,

893
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: there's we might have a problem next year, you know,

894
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: or you know what I mean, these guys maybe get

895
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: too old. You know, it's it's something that has you know,

896
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: we wish we had problems like that three or four

897
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: years ago. This is a great point too on you

898
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: know that the whole chicken or the egg, it is

899
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: the key to defense, getting pressure on the quarterback or

900
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks staying tight and coverage on the back end.

901
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: How do you get those sacks? How do you get

902
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: that pressure? And you know with with Rex Ryan and

903
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, either bringing in you know, Marcel Darius signed

904
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: that huge extension, Mario Williams on the huge deal, but

905
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams could do it all. But they thought that

906
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: the key was paying up that premium dollar up front.

907
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: And what did quarterbacks do. I mean, everybody from Tom

908
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: Brady to Andy Dalton, they're getting the ball out quick

909
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: release and you know a second and a half and

910
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: it didn't even matter who you had up front. So

911
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: say what you want about you know, Sean McDermott, you know,

912
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: and what's going on anywhere on this roster, anywhere on

913
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: this team. He might be the best cornerbacks coach in

914
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean Levi Walllett, an undrafted guy's you

915
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: look at Pro Football Focus, the numbers across the board,

916
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: was one of the better cornerbacks in the league. They

917
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: can coach up corners, they can stay tighten coverage on

918
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: the back end. I guess to answer this question, I'm

919
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: not so sure it matters. I mean, you definitely want

920
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: good pass rushers, but on this defense, it's about the

921
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: back end. And our tweet sheet is brought to you

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00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills.

923
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: They're one more from Timmy g. I think the team

924
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: as a whole is set for the future, but everything

925
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: depends on Josh Allen's progression. The team has some good,

926
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: maybe great players and coaches, but without Alan as a

927
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: true field general, the Bills will never win anything past

928
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: one around one playoff game. And yeah, no question, current

929
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: and present day success depends a lot on the quarterback

930
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: and how he progresses and Josh Allen coming into his

931
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: second year, we're you know, we He's like the great

932
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: big magnet, magnetic pull. Every conversation about this team, you know,

933
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: it gravitates toward him and his progression. The defensive set

934
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: looks good. You've got a running backs, you know, that

935
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: are experienced to seal with a little bit of gas

936
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: in the tank. There's some concern over whether they've got

937
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: anything left because of the poor season that LaShaun McCoy

938
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: had last year, at least statistically, But I think you know,

939
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: people who don't know that offensive line struggled all year

940
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: last year from the date Week one to week seventeen.

941
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: They could not get it right. They could not protect

942
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback, They couldn't get anything done in the running game,

943
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: and most observers think it wasn't as much about the

944
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: running backs as it was about the guys up front.

945
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: So having that fixed, having a quarterback coming into a

946
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: second year being in the same system, bringing some bigger

947
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: and better bodies in on the front line of offensive

948
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: line seems to have address that. We'll see if all

949
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: of that comes true, but current day, no question. In

950
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: the present day, the success depends on the development of

951
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. More about long term success. I think he

952
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: even have to be as fun as it was to

953
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: watch Josh Allen play in the second half of last year.

954
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the most fun quarterback to watch

955
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: we've seen in a long long time in this franchise.

956
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: I couldn't take my eyes off him the last half

957
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: of last year. I wanted to see him play next week.

958
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait for the games. It was that fun

959
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: to watch him. I think that's why there's so much

960
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: positive energy coming towards the team this year, particularly from

961
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: the fan base. But by the same token, that's about

962
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: the here and now. Long term is more about the

963
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: big picture, and I think the Bills are sitting really

964
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: in a good spot. Regardless of the progression, good or

965
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: bad of Josh Allen. It's hard to see him playing

966
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: worse than he did last year. I think he's getting

967
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: better and better and better. So to me, that's a

968
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch and I can't wait to

969
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: see that even if he stays flatline. It was a

970
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch last year. Yeah, And when

971
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: it comes down to the quarterback, I mean, how often

972
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: has anybody sat in this chair, you know, back to

973
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you could go all the way back to

974
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: the end of your career. When you go Todd Collins,

975
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: Rob Johnson, J. P. Lasman, EJ. Manual, even Tyrod Taylor,

976
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: it seems like there's this constant conversation about, you know,

977
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: the peripheral. If they if they fix the line here,

978
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: if they get a running back there, they find a

979
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: receiver there, if they just get the defense good, then

980
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback will be fine, right they you know, draft

981
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: trading up for a Sammy Watkins was an EJ. Manuel Pick.

982
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you are saying that E Giant Manual is

983
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback when you do something like that, I mean,

984
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: look at how good the players around Tyrod Taylor have

985
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: played since they left. Tyrod Taylor and the Buffalo Bills.

986
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: I just think when we're talking about Josh Allen and

987
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation, you're talking about like the boiler, the

988
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: heat in your house. Everything else is like the weeds

989
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: in the landscaping, and you know, just you know, maybe

990
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: maybe there's just a little crack in the window. You

991
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: gotta heat your house, and we don't know in the

992
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: future if it's gonna be heated in Buffalo. I think

993
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: there's I'm with you Allen was a right to watch,

994
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: fun to watch, big plays, explosive plays, I mean, lifts

995
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: the energy, changes the energy of the entire team in

996
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: some of those games. I think there's a lot more

997
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: reasons of optimism there with Josh Allen on the first

998
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: impression than you ever saw EJ. Manuel first impression, JP

999
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: Lasman first impression, all these guys. So yeah, yeah, I'm

1000
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: with you. The optivism is there and you cannot underestimate it,

1001
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: overestimate how important their quarterback position is. I agree with you, man,

1002
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: What can you say? I think we're gonna talk a

1003
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: little bit more about this bill. Are the bills set

1004
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: up well enough for long term success? The one Bill's

1005
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. You want to get on

1006
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: the conversation eight H three h five fifty or one

1007
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Ryan Fitzpatrick and

1008
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: the Dolphins quarterbacks are on the front burner as well.

1009
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: They've got some things to say about their future. A

1010
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: lot of people wanted Josh Rosen here in Buffalo at

1011
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: last year's draft, and now he's in Miami. They're gonna

1012
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: get a chance to compare and contrast twice a year

1013
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: as this as this competition continues. Been in the afcast

1014
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: as One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from One

1015
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Bills Radiolo Bills Radio Network story

1016
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: up date forward. Marcus Johanson signed a two year, nine

1017
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: million dollar contract with the Sabers on Saturday that was

1018
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: an average annual value of four point five million. Johanson

1019
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: had thirty points in fifty eight regular season games with

1020
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: the Bruins and Devils this past season. He also had

1021
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: eleven points in twenty two Stanley Cup playoff games to

1022
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: help the Bruins advanced to the Stanley Cup Final. Sebastian

1023
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: Aho had his five year, forty two point two seven

1024
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: million dollar offer sheet matched by the Hurricanes on Sunday.

1025
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: Aho was a restricted free agent and was tendered an

1026
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: offer sheet by the Canadians on July first, by matching

1027
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: it Carolina. Carolina has Aho under contract at an average

1028
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: annual value of eight point four five four million through

1029
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: the twenty three twenty four season, but will not be

1030
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: able to trade him for one year. Aho led the

1031
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: Hurricanes with an NHL career high eighty three points in

1032
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: eighty two regular season games last year and twelve points

1033
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: in fifteen Stanley Cup playoff games, helping Caroline advance to

1034
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference final. The United States women's soccer team

1035
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: won its fourth World Cup inc and second in a row,

1036
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: in a two zero victory over the Netherlands yesterday. Megan

1037
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: Rappano scored in the sixty first minute when she converted

1038
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: a tie breaking penalty kick, and Rose Lavelle added a

1039
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: goal in the sixty ninth minute minutes after a solo

1040
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: run from the center circle. The US set records with

1041
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: twenty six goals and a twelve game World Cup winning

1042
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: streak dating back to two fifteen. Coach Jill Ellis became

1043
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: the first coach to lead a team to two Women's

1044
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: World Cup titles, and the US joined Germany as the

1045
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: only repeat champions. As the two nineteen Wimbledon Championships continued today,

1046
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: fifteen year old Coco Goff unexpected her unexpected run, but

1047
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Speaker 1: remarkable run has ended with a loss to former number

1048
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Speaker 1: one Simona Hallop six three sixty three in the fourth round. Today,

1049
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: Goff became the youngest player to qualify for Wimbledon's main

1050
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: draw in the professional era. Hallop will advance to the

1051
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Speaker 1: quarterfinals along with Serena Williams, who has reached the Wimbledon

1052
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Speaker 1: quarterfinals for the fourteenth time. That's your sports update. We're

1053
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Speaker 1: here at One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. I'm

1054
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: with Tyler Dunn of Bleacher Report, filling in for Murph

1055
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: who's out for the week. Tyler, thanks for being in here.

1056
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: We've been talking about are the Bills set up well

1057
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: enough for long term success? Certainly short term in the

1058
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Speaker 1: present day, it's about the quarterback, Josh Allen and his development.

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Speaker 1: And we see other teams around the league who have

1060
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: success and it all comes down to the fact that, hey,

1061
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: they got a really good quarterback. It kind of seems

1062
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: to go hand in hand. Certainly, it's happened at times

1063
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: without that stellar guy that you think back years ago

1064
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: to the Chicago Bears going to Super Bowl forty two

1065
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: with Rex Grossman at quarterback, the Buccaneers getting to the

1066
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and winning the Super Bowl, or the against

1067
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: the Giants with Trent Dilfer, who is not accepted as

1068
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: a great quarterback, although he's a tremendous guy and a

1069
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: great quarterback guru. Now, it has happened at times without

1070
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: a great quarterback, but that's kind of job one for

1071
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: the franchise to find a guy. And one of the

1072
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: things that happened over the last eighteen months, you wrote

1073
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: a great article about it. You got a lot of

1074
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: acclaim for it, and rightly so was the was the

1075
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: parting of the ways with the Green Bay Packers and

1076
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy with their quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Now that it's

1077
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, been maybe a year since all this happened, right,

1078
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: what are your you know, not a year but first

1079
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: year coming out? Right, what are your thoughts about that article?

1080
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: And what a man You talked to everybody that you could.

1081
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: You used to cover the Packers day by on a

1082
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: daily basis. You know, what are your thoughts now a

1083
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: few months in the distant and now that you've got this,

1084
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Lafleur is the new head coach of

1085
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: the of the Packers. Yeah, you know covered the Packers

1086
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: for five years at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, so you know,

1087
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: being around the coach, the quarterback, the team on that

1088
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: day to day basis definitely helps the rolodex because I

1089
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: think when things just went south for Aaron Rodgers and

1090
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, I guess when the light bulb verse went off.

1091
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: It's like you're watching them lose to the Arizona Cardinals

1092
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: at home at lambeau Field. That never happens. I mean,

1093
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: I can remember sitting up in that press box and

1094
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, you just expected Aaron Rodgers in this offense

1095
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: to rev to another gear and run away from whoever

1096
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: they were playing at home, and it just did not

1097
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: resemble that offense and that quarterback that you know, maybe

1098
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: the best of this generation, maybe the best ever, at

1099
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: least physically. So all I did really was kind of

1100
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: go through that Rolodex and start texting, calling, emailing everybody

1101
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: I could on what happened? Really? I mean, that was it, Steve.

1102
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, just just what happened here. I mean, it

1103
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: wasn't about Aaron Rodgers, wasn't about Mike McCarthy, Ted Thompson.

1104
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: A defense that just collapsed every January, And really, I

1105
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: think that conversation that I'd have with whoever I was

1106
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: talking to inevitably came back to the coach, came back

1107
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and the fact that he is this good.

1108
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: How do you only have one Super Bowl? I mean,

1109
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: they'll they'll take that to the grave, I'm sure. I mean,

1110
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: you should be proud of what the Super Bowl as

1111
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, with a quarterback that talented,

1112
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: what were the problems? And yeah, it kind of started

1113
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: with that, that relationship that never was that great to

1114
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: begin with her Rodgers. Let Mike McCarthy have it that

1115
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: he was a part of the San Francisco forty nine ers.

1116
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: When they chose that past him, they passed out. I mean,

1117
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: that was real and at least on the field, and

1118
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get into a little bit. What didn't

1119
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: help was all that talent around Aaron Rodgers offensively, it

1120
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: kind of was drained so he could operate off of field.

1121
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy gave him that freedom at the line of

1122
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: scrimmage to audible to really do whatever he wanted. I mean,

1123
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: he could look at the defense the same way Jordy

1124
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: Nelson did, Randall Cobb, Jamichael Finley, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver,

1125
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: all of these guys. You know, we all saw them

1126
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: on the cover of Sports Illustrate in twenty eleven when

1127
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: they win fifteen and one. They're operating out of a field,

1128
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: They're operating off of audibles. You don't even need to

1129
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: signal because you see the same thing. Not the case

1130
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: when you've got three rookie wide receivers out there like

1131
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: they did last year. Not the case when all that

1132
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: talent is aged and gone and you really only have

1133
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: Davanta Adams. There's a reason that he was second the

1134
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: league in targets, one behind Julio Jones last year. So

1135
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen here, Steve. I mean,

1136
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: Matt laflour is gonna want to run his offense. You know,

1137
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: he comes from that Sean McVeigh coaching tree, if you

1138
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: want to call that already, He's gonna want to trust,

1139
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, what he believes in and call plays that

1140
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: are going to set up other plays. All of that.

1141
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: When Aaron Rodgers has mostly operated off of that feel,

1142
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: we're already kind of hearing some things that they're trying

1143
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: to find that balance. It's gonna be a tough balance

1144
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: to find. Yeah, it isn't. But here's the thing as well.

1145
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: Most quarterbacks who evolve into the spot where Rodgers is,

1146
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: where he's kind of his own offensive coordinator, like Peyton

1147
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: Manning was at the end of his career, like Tom

1148
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Brady probably is to a large degree, He's probably got

1149
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: a huge voice in Matt Ryan in Atlanta, a franchise

1150
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: established quarterback, like Drew Brees in New Orleans. These quarterbacks

1151
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: kind of earned that right. And one of the things

1152
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: you can do you have to do as a new

1153
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: head coach, particularly or a new offensive coordinator. And like

1154
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, if he can come in and sit down

1155
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: in front Aaron Rodgers when he installs this offense and

1156
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: we puts his offense in, when he starts putting game

1157
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: plans in, he sits there and looks him in the

1158
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: eye and says, listen, here's why we're running this play.

1159
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: Here's why it could because later we're gonna run this

1160
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: play and with this play, and if they do this

1161
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: to us defensively, we still have an answer when you

1162
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: run a play as a quarterback. And I never played quarterback,

1163
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: but I've been in the booth with a bunch of quarterbacks.

1164
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: I talked to him all the time. They do see

1165
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: the big picture most of the time. Offensively, they need

1166
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: to have a plan when the defense shows you a

1167
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: defense and then snaps out of it and go to

1168
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: a different defense a post snap, which is what most

1169
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: of them do that's when a quarterback earns his money.

1170
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: He has to see it, recognize it, and then know

1171
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: the answer that this offensive play has. When you're starting

1172
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: to get defenses who do a number of things alike,

1173
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: it's because they see something in you that they can

1174
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: exploit offensively. They know you can't do this, or they're

1175
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: asking you to beat them left handed. You have to

1176
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: get to the point offensively, particularly in a quarterback, to

1177
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: have an answer for what they're doing to you. That

1178
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: means you've got to have faith not only in the

1179
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: fact that the guy who put that play in, but

1180
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: then when it starts to go south and you're not

1181
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: going to get exactly what you want, you can still

1182
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: be successful to a large degree, successfully enough to keep

1183
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: in that play, get a first down, or get positive yards,

1184
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: or put that defense in a bind, maybe snap off

1185
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: a big play. Who knows. But you've got to have

1186
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: that plate so that you have trust in no matter

1187
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: what that defense does to your offense in this situation,

1188
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: you've got an answer for it. Sometimes, and I think

1189
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: this is what happened in Green Bay when they got

1190
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: to the point where their answers depended on a lesser

1191
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: athlete winning on the backside and he couldn't win. Your

1192
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: quarterback says, well, the answer is not gonna work rightly, Right,

1193
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: even if the play would, the answer is not, And

1194
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: so he got into the habit of saying, well, if

1195
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work, so I'm getting out of it

1196
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: and giving myself at least I can get a matchup

1197
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: over here against what I think is gonna work. At

1198
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: least my guy's gonna win. That's how you get, you know,

1199
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: a gazillion targets for one guy because the quarterback doesn't

1200
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: trust these other guys. Now, it wasn't that way when

1201
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson was there and all these other guys were

1202
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: there and they had some talent. That's where a quarterback

1203
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: evolves away from the plan when he doesn't trust the

1204
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: answers that he has in other parts of the offense.

1205
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I think Matt Lafleur is going to give him enough

1206
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: confidence that the answers are going to be able to

1207
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: be easier completions. They were, and they weren't requiring Aaron

1208
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers come backside and thread the needle to a guy

1209
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: who couldn't win. I thought Ryan Grant put it best

1210
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: to you know, starting running back there when the offense

1211
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: was really at its peak and said, it's like, it's

1212
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: like AI, artificial intelligence. You create this, this robot, this

1213
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: unstoppable machine of a quarterback. I mean, Mike McCarthy gave

1214
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that that freedom early on to operate off

1215
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: a feel. You can't really change that. You have to

1216
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: live and die by it. I mean, look at the

1217
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: throw he made against the Dallas Cowboys in the twenty

1218
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: sixteen Divisional playoff round. I mean, how many quarterbacks literally

1219
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: draw that up in the huddle and make that play.

1220
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: Not many. Now that talent starts to drain, like you said,

1221
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: you get to twenty eighteen, the play comes in and

1222
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: you see Aaron Rodgers. I mean the TV cameras caught

1223
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: him staying stupid bleeping call. You see the tension. It's

1224
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: it's public and it's absolutely private. You can't just stop

1225
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: that AI from operating at a maximum capacity. I mean it.

1226
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was also the one, let's not forget, who

1227
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: signed a historic contract before last season. He had all

1228
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: the leverage instantly, and I think that and Greg Jennings

1229
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: talked at length about this too. It's not necessarily wholesale

1230
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: changes that Aaron Rodgers needs to make. I mean, he's

1231
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, He's a two time MVP. It's the subtle changes.

1232
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Is he willing to do the kind of things that

1233
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's willing to do in that AFC Championship game,

1234
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: handing the ball off to Sony Michelle, handing the ball

1235
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: off to running backs. I think it was forty seven

1236
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: times in that game to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. Right,

1237
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: there's you know, you gotta check your ego at the

1238
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: door in those situations, and people aren't so sure Aaron

1239
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: Rodgers is willing to do that at this point of

1240
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, it's hard for a guy like Aaron

1241
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers to say, you know, the answer is somebody else,

1242
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: not me exactly. And it's not because he has to

1243
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: be arrogant or you know, a bad guy about it,

1244
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: just because it's you're gonna have to have a lot

1245
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: of guys earn his trust, not just the head coach

1246
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: and the plays he's putting in the offense and the answers,

1247
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: but the guys around him who can make it happen.

1248
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: And that's I think Rogers will probably give Matt Lafour

1249
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: a chance to convince him, and he'll go through some things.

1250
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: He'll say, here's the answer, and he'll talk him through

1251
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: the practice reps, and he'll when things When bad things

1252
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: happen in practice, the head coach has got to have

1253
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: an answer as to why it did. And that's why

1254
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gets the freedom, you know, and these and

1255
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: these behind the scenes meeting with head coach with offensive coordinator.

1256
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: The quarterback has some pretty pointed questions, you know about, Hey,

1257
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: what happens if this guy comes here and this guy's

1258
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: covered up? What am I gonna do if they if

1259
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: they show this and this guy drops whatever, where's my answer?

1260
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: And the court and then the guy says, you know,

1261
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: that's when the coach knows it. Well, this guy's got

1262
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: to handle on it. I get it, So listen if

1263
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: you if you need to, you can get out of it.

1264
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: If you suspect that's what they're gonna do. If they

1265
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: do that, go here or go there. The coach has

1266
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: to have answers. And then when they get to that

1267
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Speaker 1: point where both of them know the offense you know

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Speaker 1: equally well, there has to be a creative process to

1269
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: keep the player from distrust because the other team, the

1270
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: defense are gonna come up with new stuff. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: come up with different and every defense is different because

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Speaker 1: they have strengths and weaknesses that don't line up week

1273
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Speaker 1: to week. This week, they've got better corners. What am

1274
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: I gonna do? Well, you got your tight end running back.

1275
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do this on this play. You're

1276
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to We're gonna get this matchup. This kind

1277
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Speaker 1: of thing. The creative process is what generates the whole offense.

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Speaker 1: And when you get a quarterback who loses faith and

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Speaker 1: the guys that are drawn up the plays that he

1280
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: feels like he's way ahead of him in the game plan,

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Speaker 1: when their game plan comes back and it's just not

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: up to snuff, it doesn't seem new and innovative. It

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01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: seems the same old thing. Particularly in division games. Man

1284
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: oh man, the quarterback loses faith pretty quickly. Aaron Rodgers

1285
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: is a brilliant guy, and he's gonna want his coach

1286
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: to be in his intellectual level, right. I mean, he

1287
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 1: wants that that equal that they're gonna see the same

1288
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: things out there. And I think when that trust is

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01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: there that maybe they can find that balance. I mean,

1290
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: quick little story after the story came out, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously a lot of players voiced, you know, their experiences

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback. I also got a few phone calls

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Speaker 1: from some other players, one receiver who said, yeah, you know,

1294
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: back back when I was playing and I ran a

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01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: route that was the route I was supposed to run,

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Speaker 1: the coaches wanted me to the run. And at practice

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Speaker 1: and that you know, Aaron Rodgers jumped all over me.

1298
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: And you say, hey, that that's not what I want

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: you to do. I want you to do this. And

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Speaker 1: the player went to his coach, his position coach, and said, well,

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Speaker 1: what do I do? You know, what do I do

1302
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: what you're telling me to do? Or do I do?

1303
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: And the coaches said, do whatever Aaron tells you to do. Yeah,

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01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what the offense was. So when

1305
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: the talent drains, and that's the situation, um, you're gonna

1306
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: have the bottoming out that the Packers had last season.

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01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: That's that's that's not just the Packers though, And I

1308
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: from playing receiver for a minute. Whatever the quarterback says goes,

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: particularly in game day, right he sees something. If he

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01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: says do this, do it, you do it. You don't

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Speaker 1: ask questions. It happened to me on a number of

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Speaker 1: occasions where my quarterback Jim would say, hey, we're gonna

1313
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Speaker 1: do this, We're gonna call this play. You do this,

1314
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: and you say okay, And it led to a big place.

1315
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Speaker 1: That's the ultimate offense off a field, right. It led

1316
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: to big plays and good things happening, but also led

1317
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: to bad things as well, because when he called the

1318
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: play again later in the game, was I supposed to

1319
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: do it the way he called it the first time?

1320
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: Or did he want me to do it the way

1321
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: it was in in the book? Because you gotta do

1322
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: that every time. You gotta if I'm supposed to go

1323
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: off page every time, you gotta tell me every time.

1324
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: You can't say it in the beginning game, do it

1325
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: on on this play when I call is do this

1326
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: because he's you know, what do you do? You gotta

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: tell me every time. And so it came out to

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: one time when he wanted me to run it the

1329
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: way it was in the book the next time, and

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Speaker 1: I ran it the way he told me the first

1331
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: time during that game. Big mistake, right, So you know

1332
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: we ended up you know, ended up catching two touchdowns anyway,

1333
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: so you know, that's just him being a Hall of Famer.

1334
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: But you know, that kind of stuff happens, and Rogers

1335
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: has got to be a victim of that sometimes. Right,

1336
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: it's right, it's not even We get so caught up

1337
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: into good guy versus bad guy black and white, and

1338
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: there's so many shades of gray here. Maybe Aaron Rodgers

1339
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: is right, and Mike McCarthy was not the quarterback guru

1340
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: that everybody kind of thought he was. What wasn't necessarily

1341
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: that smart, that forward thinking with the XS and knows.

1342
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers realized this and had to do his own thing.

1343
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Maybe he should have honored the player coach relationship and

1344
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: done what his coach was telling him to do a

1345
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: lot more than he did. So I just think there's

1346
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: a lot of gray area there and we're gonna see

1347
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: how it plays out. It's going to be interesting. Yeah,

1348
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, players like Aaron Rodgers, I

1349
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: mean that, you know, they kind of earned that respect,

1350
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: You earned your reputation in the NFL. Down in Miami,

1351
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: they've got Ryan Fitzpatrick, who has played for his eighth

1352
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: NFL team, right, I mean something like that. And then

1353
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: you've got Josh Rosen, who was just traded for his

1354
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick a year ago for Arizona.

1355
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: Now they're both on the same team. Ryan Fitzpatrick was

1356
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: in the news just this week, and you think, you

1357
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: think about two guys that are on different trajectories and

1358
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks. But you know, Aaron Rodgers established well known superstar,

1359
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. But then you've got a

1360
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick who has made friends and fans

1361
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: everywhere he has played. He has become a fan favorite.

1362
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: He has come in and played extremely well for eight

1363
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: different franchises before stinking it up for eight different franchises.

1364
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: He hasn't done that yet for Miami, but they're the

1365
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: eighth one. He's there. He's in competition with Josh Rose.

1366
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: And he said, listen, and I'm quoting him from the

1367
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: article that was from CBS Sports and was written by

1368
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Wilson, and he's Fitzpatrick was said, you know, said listen.

1369
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: He said, he talking about Josh Rose, and he said,

1370
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that pops out to me is his humility.

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01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: Being able to bounce questions off him has been great.

1372
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Speaker 1: He's been a neat presence to have around. And he's

1373
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: talking about hold on, hold on, the hold on, let

1374
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: me get this to the rights, the right spot. Ryan

1375
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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick talking about the shade that's been thrown at him, Yeah,

1376
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick said recently, there's been a lot of shade and

1377
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: disrespect thrown my way for a lot of years. But

1378
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: he also says that you know, Josh rosen Zach Krantz

1379
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: and Flora as the head coach, all these guys down there,

1380
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: they've gotten off to on the right foot. But Fitzpatrick

1381
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: has got a great sense of self. Yeah. So you've

1382
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: got quarterbacks like Ryan Fitzpatrick who players can't wait to

1383
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: play with, and he's gonna go for it. He's a

1384
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: great dude, he's smart, he's gonna put in a position

1385
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: to win. He's gonna have the protection set right. He's

1386
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna give you a chance to win the game that

1387
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: he's he knows he's not gonna win it, but he'll

1388
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: give his teammates a chance to win it. You get

1389
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: a guy like that as a personality to quarterback and

1390
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: and it elevates the guys around him to a certain extent.

1391
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: Although sometimes he usually he was kind of bites off

1392
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: a little bit too much and tries to fit the

1393
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: perfect pass hand He can't. You know, he's never been

1394
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: given the keys to a Ferrari, It's true. So it's

1395
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: always you know, he's always been one of the like

1396
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: even in Tampa Bay last year and before that the Jets,

1397
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: and you know, before that with Buffalo and before you

1398
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: know you picked the team. He's such a contrast to

1399
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: a guy like Aaron and Rogers, but nevertheless sort of

1400
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: in the same realm. I mean, he's the same playing

1401
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: the same quarterback. How does he handle it? And you know,

1402
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: not as a guy who's ever respected. Come in, you're

1403
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the starter, You're the guy we're handing the

1404
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: keys of the car. He's more of a guy that

1405
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: always has to compete and waits for somebody to go down.

1406
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: Then he comes in and lights it up. A whole

1407
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: different dynamic, totally different. I mean, not nearly as physically gifted, right,

1408
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't can't just roll left, flip his hips,

1409
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: throw it forty yards on a rope. Ryan Fitzpatrick's got

1410
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: to be one of the toughest quarterbacks to read. And

1411
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: it's amazing that he's still playing. It really is. To

1412
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: be on his eighth team still playing is an accomplishment

1413
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: for him that the teams still want him to be

1414
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL. I'm not so sure

1415
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: if I agree about the shade and the disrespect. I mean,

1416
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: you're probably on your eighth team for a reason. I mean,

1417
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: he's fifty seventy five and one as a starters, passerrating

1418
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: as eighty one point one for his career, one hundred

1419
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: ninety touchdowns, one hundred forty eight picks. I mean, he

1420
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: kind of is what he is. He gets y'all excited

1421
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. He'll show up at his

1422
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: press conference, you know, with with the chains and the

1423
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: big sunglasses. He's he's a riot. I mean, he talked

1424
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: to anybody that's played with Ryan Fitzpatrick and they've loved

1425
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: playing with him. But I'm pretty sure that Miami is

1426
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: gonna want Josh Rosen to be their quarterbacks at least

1427
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: see what they have in him sooner rather than later.

1428
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: I wonder what kind of shape fits his in Did

1429
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: you see the picture he kind of looked like, uh

1430
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: my buddy on Twitter put it best. Um Tim Allen

1431
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: in a Santa Claus right when he starts becoming Santa

1432
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: overnight it was like, whoa, what happened fits? It's funny see.

1433
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: And he said as well that he's talking about his

1434
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: new coach Flores because everybody, you know, the new coach

1435
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: comes in, he kind of sets the tone and he

1436
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: says the competition And this is what Ryan Fitzpatrick said

1437
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: about Coach Flores. Competition definitely brings out the best in you.

1438
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: Coach Flow has a present in our meeting room and

1439
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: at times talking a lot about a lot of different situations.

1440
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: He has a great personality. He's been very consistent with

1441
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: his message so far, and that's something that really carries

1442
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: weight in the locker room and gets guys to play

1443
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: with you. So we started this segment by talking about

1444
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy and how it went south

1445
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 1: for them. Mike McCarthy was a guy who won a

1446
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl there obviously did something right right, maybe a

1447
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: lot of things right, but somewhere the opinion of him

1448
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: in the locker room started to go sideways. They started

1449
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: to he started to, you know, lose respect of the players,

1450
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: lose the ear of the players, lose the pulse of

1451
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: the team. Call it what you want. It started to

1452
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: go sideways. How does that, you know, how does that happen? Boy,

1453
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: I wish I did the answer to that. I think

1454
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: it happens. I think the ego it can be the

1455
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: root of it, right. I mean, I think that after

1456
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: they won that Super Bowl early on, you know, that

1457
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: was just the second year that Aaron Rodgers was the

1458
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: starting quarterback under Mike McCarthy. I think that Mike McCarthy

1459
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: felt he was a big reason for that Super Bowl.

1460
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers felt he was a big reason for that

1461
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean he's calling people close to him,

1462
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback that is, and saying that Mike McCarthy doesn't

1463
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: know what he's doing and that the wrong players are

1464
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: coming in at the wrong time, that he's he's the

1465
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: reason that I think that that is the root of

1466
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: maybe that that division and that they thought they were

1467
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: both responsible for a lot of the success. Now, they

1468
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: were able to keep winning a lot of games because

1469
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: they had a lot of talent. But eventually you're gonna

1470
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: have that divorce and it probably happened a little too late. Yeah,

1471
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: and it well, it happened, and we're gonna see the

1472
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: results of it coming up this season. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break One Bill's Live presented by Collid to Health.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gonna speak a little bit. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a call actually after the break, Tom's from forty ere.

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Speaker 1: We hang in there. We're gonna get to you. You've

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Speaker 1: been on hold for a long time. Appreciated. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. Or

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Speaker 1: the Bills set up well enough for long term success?

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Speaker 1: Call us and tell us what you think. This is

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. And this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Life. Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker and Tyler Dunne keeping a company on this Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We're here till three o'clock. We're talking about whether or

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Speaker 1: not the Buffalo Bills are set up well enough for

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Speaker 1: long term success. We're also talking about some of the

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Speaker 1: the last segment, we're talking about some of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: around the league, really particularly Aaron Rodgers in his relationship

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Speaker 1: and how it soured with Mike McCarthy. What that all happened?

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Speaker 1: How that all happened? H Tyler, You wrote an incredibly

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Speaker 1: in depth article, talked to dozens of guys and people

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Speaker 1: in and around the organization, the team that had contributions

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Speaker 1: and thoughts about how it happened and why it happened,

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Speaker 1: and like with anything, particularly with a situation like it

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Speaker 1: was in Green Bay, a couple of hundred people involved

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Speaker 1: and a couple of hundred different opinions about why it

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Speaker 1: went wrong, but certainly there are some generalizations. So I

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Speaker 1: got to congratulate congratulate you on the article well written

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Speaker 1: in depth, which is hard to get sometimes. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about to Bill's fans about are the

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Speaker 1: bills set up well enough for long term success? And

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Speaker 1: Tom from Fort Erie has been kind of patiently waiting

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Speaker 1: for us, so we'll take his call right now. Tom,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with Steven Tyler. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Thanks, just real quick, Steve, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: let you know that the bridge you go over to

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Speaker 1: heading to Hamilton Burlington Skyways. That's it. Nice one, Tom,

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Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, Okay, anyway, I just want to get

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Speaker 1: your opinion. I know there was some off field issues

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Speaker 1: last year with Zay Jones and Shady McCoy, especially with

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Speaker 1: his X and everything that happened. I'm not looking to

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Speaker 1: place judgment I'm not looking for that. I just think

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Speaker 1: it had a direct result on his play last season,

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Speaker 1: all that off field stuff, and I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: your opinion on this. Hopefully this has been put to

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Speaker 1: bed for him now and he can just get back

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Speaker 1: to playing football and you know, he can carry on

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Speaker 1: and hopefully the future Hall of Famer that he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I agree that it could have. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna, I can't say it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna. I gonna say that I'm inside

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Speaker 1: the guy's mind and I know. And thanks for the call, Tom,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. There were some stuff flying around. It

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Speaker 1: seems like forever ago now that all after all this happened,

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Speaker 1: is Zay Jones had the incident in la early in

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Speaker 1: the offseason, and also and Lashawn McCoy where he had

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Speaker 1: somebody in his life, a former girlfriend who was robbed

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Speaker 1: and viciously beaten. All of that stuff had to blow

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Speaker 1: up in their face at least for a certain time.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if it carried over into the season or not.

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Speaker 1: Certainly that stuff can do that. I think it had

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Speaker 1: more to do with the fact that, you know, Lashawn

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Speaker 1: didn't have that much help. He's playing with rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: or quarterbacks who were in the on the team for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before they took a first snap

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Speaker 1: as a starter. They had a revolving door at quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the first half of the season, four guys taking snaps,

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Speaker 1: and I ended up being Josh in the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season. The offensive line didn't not improved throughout

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Speaker 1: the season, and they looked as bad as I've seen

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Speaker 1: this team look for the first two weeks of last year.

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Speaker 1: It did not get off to a good start for him.

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Speaker 1: But I still believe, and I may be in the minority,

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Speaker 1: I still believe Lashawn McCoy has a lot of good

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Speaker 1: football left in him. Certainly this year. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: would have stuck with and given another chance to do

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Speaker 1: it with. I like Frank Gore, I saw him play

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Speaker 1: personally last year. Great back still has something to offer

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Speaker 1: a football team. So I like where they're at and

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Speaker 1: where they are at in the running back room. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think Lashawn McCoys finished as a football player. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting how this shakes out. In

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Speaker 1: training camp at Saint John Fisher isn't it Because Brandon

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Speaker 1: being Sean McDermott Lesha McCoy himself. It seems like whenever

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Speaker 1: they get asked about him being a Buffalo Bill, it's

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Speaker 1: he is a Bill. He is the starter, like no

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Speaker 1: further questions. That's taking them at their word. But then

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Speaker 1: you look at the offseason to sign Frank Or I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the you know, the third all time

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Speaker 1: rusher after the season, probably will probably pass Barry Sanders.

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Speaker 1: You bring him in, you draft Singletary, Devin Singletary that

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Speaker 1: that high. I mean, they love this guy. You don't

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Speaker 1: draft a running back in the first three rounds unless

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Speaker 1: you want that running back to be a part of

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Speaker 1: your offense to contribute. Yeah, and then you bring in

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Speaker 1: t J. Yelled in a third down back who can

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Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: to take Brandon being in his word, maybe Lasha McCoy

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Speaker 1: is the Lasha McCoy of old. He is that way

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Speaker 1: in training camp, you have no choice but to roll

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Speaker 1: with him as your number one guy. But also you

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Speaker 1: showcase him a little bit. Maybe a running back goes

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Speaker 1: down elsewhere, maybe all of a sudden, there is a

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Speaker 1: market for Lashawn McCoy and you take that mid round

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Speaker 1: pick because maybe you've been trying to deal him off

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Speaker 1: after you've signed on these other running backs. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just think that the writings on the wall that

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Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. It wouldn't shock me

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Speaker 1: at a if they did trade Lasha McCoy And no, really,

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Speaker 1: I get that that rationale that you know, if he's

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Speaker 1: marketable and you've got guys that you like Frank Gore,

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Speaker 1: if you think he's got enough in the tank, you

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Speaker 1: think t J. Yelden's your kind of guy. If you

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Speaker 1: think Devin Singletary out of nowhere, you watch him in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, you think, well, you know what, the kid's

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Speaker 1: got something. Let's let's see if he can do it.

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Speaker 1: I think for Singletary to do that and to have

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Speaker 1: that immediate to give that immediate opinion to the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got to do one thing significantly, and

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Speaker 1: that is step to the right guy in pass protection.

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Speaker 1: He's got to show he can stand up and do it.

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Speaker 1: He's is tall or shorter than me, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be blocking guys that are not shorter than me. Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna he's you know, he's five. Yeah, listen,

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01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: standing back there in an NFL backfield, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: guys coming back there to the quarterback and blitzing from

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Speaker 1: off the off, the edge and all that stuff. They're big, mean,

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Speaker 1: and they'll rip your head off and hand it to you.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be ready to stand up to that. If

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Speaker 1: Singletary can prove that he can do that in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and then and only then do you say, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: we can. Maybe one of these other guys is expendable.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is t J. Yeldner, maybe it's Team one

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Speaker 1: of the three. But Lashawn McCoy the lead dog, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's hard for me to see this team

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Speaker 1: doing that. And I'll tell you, maybe you can poop

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Speaker 1: poo this notion. I don't think I would be a

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Speaker 1: big fan of trading Lashawn McCoy. If I'm a player

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Speaker 1: in the Bills locker room, who's in there. Here's a

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Speaker 1: guy who has said and done all the right things,

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Speaker 1: who has been a guy who's who's been here. He

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Speaker 1: was a team captain last year. He went through a

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Speaker 1: very difficult season and took it like a man and

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Speaker 1: didn't throw anybody under the bus. I mean he was,

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Speaker 1: he was a team player. And then for them to

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Speaker 1: get to the point where just to trade him off

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Speaker 1: for whatever, a third round pick or whatever, I think

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Speaker 1: they would have a hard time selling that to a

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Speaker 1: locker room who they want to sell out for them,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's a great point, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was around the Raiders a little bit

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Speaker 1: when things were going haywire out there, Kali with Khalil

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Speaker 1: Mack and then Amari Coo, Gary Cooper. I mean John

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Speaker 1: Gruden is as telling the team like Amari Cooper's not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere, guys. He was letting them know, and then

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Speaker 1: I think it was later he's gone, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they're finding out on their phones. And I think that

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Speaker 1: that had a negative effect in the locker room as

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Speaker 1: you just kind of illustrated there. I think that maybe

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Speaker 1: John Gruden lost a little respect and they're now there

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01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: are players who run through a wall for the guy.

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01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: We all see John Gruden and hear him. But that

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Speaker 1: did have an effect in the locker room. So could

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Speaker 1: that have a similar effect here? Sure? But I think

1635
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: it's a ruthless business and sometimes the teams that make

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Speaker 1: those ruthless, cold hearted decisions are the teams that are

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: two three steps ahead. I just don't know right now

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Speaker 1: if there's really a market for somebody who's kind of

1639
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: turned thirty one in what four days average three point

1640
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: two a carry and it wasn't all his fault. I mean,

1641
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: that line was awful last year, and there's times Lashaw

1642
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: McCoy got the ball and he immediately was met by

1643
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman. But there just might not be a

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01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: market for him. If a market does open up, and

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01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: Singletary's showing you something and Frank Goreck we just saw

1646
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: that boxing video. The guy. Think he looks as good

1647
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: as ever. I think you look to deal. I mean,

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01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: he wasn't a Bean McDermot guy. He was here before

1649
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: they got here. And we've seen that they've turned this

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: roster over a heck of a lot in two plus

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01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, it's interesting too because you have to

1652
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: think about you know, there's still maybe some roster changes.

1653
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: And I know this. It used to be an old

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Speaker 1: adage when I was in training camp for all of

1655
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: my career. There's always a surprise or two in training

1656
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: camp or in the lead up to the final cuts,

1657
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: where an established veteran is let go or traded, a

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01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: surprise rookie comes in and jumps into the forefront says, Wow,

1659
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: where do we find this guy? We didn't know he

1660
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: was this good? And it'll it'll trickle down to the fans.

1661
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 1: They'll they'll grab the guy as well. So there's definitely

1662
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: that as well. We're asking you bills fans, are the

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01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: bills set up well enough for long term success? I

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Speaker 1: got one call on the line. This is Chuck from

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01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. Chuck, you're on the air with Steve Tasker

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01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: and Tyler Dunn. What's on your mind afternoon, gentlemen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I liked the question because in a league

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01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: that kind of stands for not for long, you know,

1669
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: how long term can you be set up? Right? And

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01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: I think in order for us to kind of feel

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: good about where this franchise is, I really would like

1672
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: to see them go all in while Josh is on

1673
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: his rookie deal, you know. And when I say all in,

1674
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Speaker 1: I'd be perfectly fine with you know, you want to

1675
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: give away an ex first rounder for an elite wide receiver.

1676
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: You know you're talking about him, Amari Cooper. I don't

1677
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: think they have that along the defensive line. I mean,

1678
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: I know they just drafted at Oliver. I mean Jerry Hughes, Yeah,

1679
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: he just got a contract extension. But you know, Trent Murphy,

1680
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 1: what's there, Shack Lawson, what's there? You know, Terry Phillips,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's still kind of unproven. To me. I

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01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: just think there's a lot of holes along the roster

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01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: for for them right now, which is kind of like

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: the long term, you know, the next two to three

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01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: years to me is kind of what I'm thinking. And

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01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 1: I just in order for them to really reach their potential,

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01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: I think you have to do it while the quarterbacks

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01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: on the rookie deal, I don't know, Chuck, and I

1689
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: get what you're saying. You're right, the rookie deal is important.

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01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: It's been proven around the league. Even the Seahawks have

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01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: been able to stay competitive while going from Russell Wilson's

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01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: first rookie contract where he was cheap and they had

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01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: all those great defensive players. In fact, one of our

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01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: NFL true falls today has to do with the great

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: teams of this past decade, and the Seahawks are considered

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01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: one of those, if not the best team because of that,

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01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: you know that legion of boom defense. But I don't

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01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: know if I can say, you know, the Bills have

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01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: some holes in their Their defense is the top five defense,

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01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know what holes you're talking about it.

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01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: Certainly you can say there's some question marks about depth

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01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: or whatever, but they're productive right now. In the current day,

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01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: there's I don't think there's any question marks on that

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01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Certainly you can say who's gonna

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: maybe get twelve sacks? They didn't sack the quarterback enough

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01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: last year, but that's a league wide problem in certain

1707
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: in certain respects because offenses are starting to get the

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01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: ball out quicker, and now it's turning over towards the

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01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: question you had earlier in the show, Tyler about it's

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01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: about coverage now quick coverage rather than quick pressure because

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01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: the ball is out too fast. So I don't know

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01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: if I agree with you Chuck about you know that

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01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: you know that you don't know that there's just too

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01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: many questions and you and all the guys you mentioned

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: were edge rushers and an aging defense. The defense has

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01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: been productive and continues at least has continued to be

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01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: throughout the Sean McDermot are, So I don't know if

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01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: I if I can go with that. You know what

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01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: Chuck hits the nail on the head though, is this

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01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: is that that window of opportunity that every team just craves,

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01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: that wants. I mean, that's that treasured chest if you

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01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: can get a rookie quarterback that you believe you can

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: win with on that rookie deal. I mean, look with

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Ramsden, I mean they were signing somebody

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: every other day, it seemed last off season, and you

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01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 1: didn't know where that money was coming from. It was

1727
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: coming from the fact that they weren't paying Jared Goffe.

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01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: They still aren't paying Jared Goff yet, and then they

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01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: make the Super Bowls. So it does start with that

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01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: belief in the quarterback. And I think the Bills I

1731
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: want to believe, right, they want to believe that Josh

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01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Allen is the quarterback here for the next fifteen years.

1733
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: But you just don't know quite yet. And if the

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: moment you do, hey, maybe they already were training this

1735
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 1: off season to go for I mean the interest in

1736
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. I think Florida a lot of people that

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01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: they were even you know, a possibility that that thought

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01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: even entered Brandon being in Sean McDermott's minds, it did.

1739
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they are trying to take advantage of that, that

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01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: window of opportunity. What would it look like, though, if

1741
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: the team said we're all in early to get it,

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01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: get it done. While Josh Alan's rookie contract. What who

1743
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, why would you start overhauling defense? It's a

1744
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: top five defense. Yeah, they don't need to do that.

1745
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you there, I mean, they're defense. What would

1746
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: they do otherwise? You think so? And I get it.

1747
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna make a big difference, particularly if you think

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01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: Josh is the guy. Maybe a guy like how are

1749
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: you gonna get Julio Jones out of Atlanta? How are

1750
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: you gonna get Amari Cooper out of Dallas? How are

1751
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: you gonna get you name it, aj Green out of Cincinnati?

1752
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're not gonna let that guy, you think,

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: Mike Brown, the Cincinnati is gonna let a great play

1754
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: like that go only you know you're talking about all in.

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01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: You're talking about starting to make stupid decisions again for

1756
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: one guy. You're gonna pay a guy one hundred million

1757
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: bucks he comes in snaps his ankle stepping off the curb,

1758
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: off the plane, and you're done. You know, you've just wasted.

1759
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: Now you've set your franchise back five years. I don't

1760
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,839
Speaker 1: think I think going all in looks like something different

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01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 1: than going out and buying what you think is one

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01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: piece that will put you over the top, because I

1763
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: don't think that piece really for the bills of this

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01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: current moment exists outside of Josh. You know what I'm saying,

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01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: It can absolutely backfire. I mean you saw it right here,

1766
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm saying kind of Doug Willis, Marcel

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01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: Darius exactly, all these awful contracts and and they thought

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01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: they could just kind of skid by a quarterback. I mean,

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01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: you trot into the training camp with Matt Castle, Tyrod

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01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: Taylor and EJ. Manuel. I mean we all know about

1771
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: the hospitality tenth throw. It was pretty bad. You know,

1772
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: all three were pretty rough that summer. And now, look

1773
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: to Tyrod Taylor's credit, he won the job. He did

1774
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 1: some good things, but with the talent was around him,

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01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: the money that was spent around him, they were trying

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01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: to go for that kind of model, you know, cheap

1777
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: quarterback go for you gotta have the quarter, But you

1778
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: gotta have the guy, so you can't kid yourself into

1779
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: thinking you have the guy when you don't, and that's

1780
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: when it absolutely can backfire or not. I don't know

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01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: where the Bills stand right now in their heads with

1782
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, right, it all comes down to this. If

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01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna sign guys to outrageous contracts, how likely is

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01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: it they're going to earn it? And that's where you

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01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: start and where it really ends with We're gonna come back?

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01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: We are the bills set up well enough for long

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01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 1: term success? Tyler Dunn in for Murph today Steve Tasker

1788
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: where One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, and this

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01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Steve task along with Tyler Dunn, we are taking your

1791
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: phone calls and talking about the NFL Buffalo Bills and

1792
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: as to whether you think the bills are set up

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01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: well enough for long term success, we may not. Guy

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01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: waiting on online, Pat from Charlotte, North Carolina. Pat, You're

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01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: on the air with Tyler Done Steve Tasker on One

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01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: Bills Live. What's on your mind today? Are you doing? Guys?

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01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: As Steve listen first, of all, I'm not from North Carolina,

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01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: from outside Rogers. I'm sorry Charlotte, North n Why not

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01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 1: n C. I apologize? Go ahead, Pat, Yes, it's not Charlotte,

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: it's Charlotte, got you. Thanks for that correction. You're welcome. Now.

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: My question is, what do you think if if Foster's

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01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: devolved enough that him and John Brown can be a

1803
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: dual threat with their speed and they have either Beasley

1804
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: or Jones in the slot, okay, and with Alan making

1805
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, Evan, Evan at least having a chance to

1806
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: make good passes to um you know, to those guys,

1807
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 1: do you think didn't work well? I think the Bills

1808
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: are counting on it to work. I think you're exactly right.

1809
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: With Foster and John Brown on the field. At the

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01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: same time, you've got two really fast guys that can

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01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: really stretch the defense quickly and create some space, and

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01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: theoretically that space will be everywhere on the field and

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01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: particularly underneath. You've also got a chance, now with a

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01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: revamped offensive line, to threaten with the runs. So you've

1815
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: got the defense trying to keep the lid on a

1816
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: bunch of really fast guys while also staying down in

1817
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: the box to guard against a running game that theoretically

1818
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: will be bolstered by a better offensive line. So pat,

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01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: that's exactly what the Bills are thinking might happen, and

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01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: maybe it will, maybe it won't, thanks for the call

1821
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: from Challot. But they've got enough speed, no questions. Zay Jones,

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01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: Robert Foster, and John Brown have plenty of speed to

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01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: stretch a football field. Cole Beasley is an established enough

1824
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: possession receiver that he'll be able to do some things underneath,

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01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: along with Lashawn McCoy coming out of the backfield, who

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01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: we know can catch and do some things in space.

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01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: All of that should be able to stretch the defense enough.

1828
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: But if they don't believe you can run it to

1829
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: begin with, it's you know, it's you know, what are

1830
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You're gonna back right back in the

1831
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: same boat totally. It starts there because if they can

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01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: get those one on one matchups, you know Josh Allen

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01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: can complete those passes, you would think, because you've got

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01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: two receivers who can theoretically, you know, take the top

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01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: off the defense, and John Brown Robert Foster. I think

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01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,520
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley is such an interesting guy and an incredible

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01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: story my pal Tim Grammer and the athletic on Cole

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01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Beasley and his hunger. I mean, this guy feels he

1839
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: was underutilized in Dallas, and you look at his numbers

1840
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: that kind of backs it up. I mean, you're talking

1841
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: about four hundred and fifty targets, three hundred nineteen receptions

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01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 1: over his what seven seasons in Dallas. That's seventy one

1843
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: catch percentage. That's really good. So usually he's gonna catch

1844
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 1: it if he gets the ball thrown to him, and

1845
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: he feels it was more of a simplistic offense in Dallas.

1846
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: If Brian day Ball can draw up some things for him,

1847
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen can be willing, like you said earlier,

1848
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: maybe take some of those easy completion underneath, that adds

1849
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: a whole other dimensions to this offense they just didn't

1850
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: have last year at all. Right, And I get it.

1851
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: And that's all of this stuff, you know, outcomes with

1852
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: all these question marks. We haven't seen it do it.

1853
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: They haven't seen him do it yet, and you haven't

1854
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: seen him do it consistently. Is are these guys gonna

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01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: come together? Is Josh going to take a step? All

1856
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: this stuff is but and here's and this gets back

1857
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: to the question, are the Bills set up well enough

1858
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: for long term success? You gotta like or at least

1859
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: acknowledge how they've addressed all these issues. Last year, the

1860
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: issues were obvious. We talk about him, you see him

1861
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: and in some cases painfully obvious, and we'll see. You

1862
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: gotta at least acknowledge though the Bills have made some

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01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: really structured and systematic decisions that addressed virtually everything we've

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01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: talked about on the show. And are the Bills set

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01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: up well enough for long term success? Tiffany says this

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01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Tiffany says, you

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01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: can see the process beginning to take shape. A deep

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01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: roster with potential stars on both sides of the bowl.

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01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: They've drafted well over the past two seasons with Alan

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01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: and Edmunds. Solid free agent signings on cap friendly deals,

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01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: gives the team flexibility moving forward, and she just playoff

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01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: bound exclamation point. Maybe, but you're right, I mean it's hard.

1874
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: Certainly the plan is self evident, which has got to

1875
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: give some people in some level some comfort as you think, oh,

1876
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: I see the plan. I see where they're doing, and

1877
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: it all at least makes sense at this point it

1878
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: does right on paper. Everything has been very well thought

1879
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: out and planned for, where at times in the past

1880
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like their operating on a whim.

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01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: You know, if a great player was available, I can

1882
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: and Polly mean, who in their right mind thinks that's

1883
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: a good idea? I mean, it was kind of one

1884
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: thing after another where things are a little bit more

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01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: planned out. And you know, you mentioned tremain Edmunds. I

1886
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: don't know if we've talked enough about him. I mean,

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01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 1: what do you think, Steve, Is this the guy that's

1888
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: really gonna be the face of this defense? Because and

1889
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: that draft is pretty interesting to see. Darius Leonard, Layton

1890
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: vander esh a really linebacker rich draft. They gave up

1891
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 1: a lot to get Edmonds in there. Is he gonna

1892
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: take that step and it maybe be that difference maker,

1893
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: make those big plays that can kind of change a game.

1894
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna take your calls is one Bills Live. You

1895
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: can come back after the break. We're gonna talk to

1896
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 1: a Bob in Las Vegas as well. He's on the

1897
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: line waiting. We're asking you are the Bills set up

1898
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: well enough for long term success. We're talking about what

1899
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: they've done this offseason, what we think might happen during

1900
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: this regular season upcoming as training camp is around the corner.

1901
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from

1902
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills

1903
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Radio Network Sports up Date. Forward Marcus Johanson signed a

1904
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: two year, nine million dollar contract with the Sabers on Saturday.

1905
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 1: Johansson had eleven points in twenty two Stanley Cup playoff

1906
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: games to help the Bruins advanced to the Stanley Cup Final.

1907
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 1: Sebastian Aho had his five year, forty two point two

1908
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: seven million dollar offer sheet matched by the Hurricanes on Sunday.

1909
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Aho was a restricted free agent and was tendered and

1910
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: offered by an offer sheet by the Canadians on July first.

1911
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: By matching it, Carolina has Aho under contract but will

1912
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 1: not be able to trade him for one year. Aho

1913
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 1: led the Hurricanes with an NHL career high eighty three

1914
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: points in eighty two regular season games. Last season, the

1915
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: United States women's soccer team won its fourth World Cup

1916
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: and second in a row, in a two zero victory

1917
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: over the Netherlands yesterday, Megan Rappano scored in the sixty

1918
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: first minute when she converted a tie breaking penalty kick.

1919
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: The US set records with twenty six goals and a

1920
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: twelve game World Cup winning streak dating back to twenty fifteen.

1921
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Coach Jill Ellis became the first coach to lead a

1922
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: team to two Women's World Cup titles, and the United

1923
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: States joined Germany as the only repeat champions. As the

1924
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Wimbledon Championship continues today, fifteen year old Coco

1925
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 1: Goff's unexpected but remarkable run has ended with a loss

1926
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 1: to former number one Simona Hollop sixty three sixty three

1927
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 1: and the fourth in the fourth round. Today, Goff became

1928
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: the youngest player to ever qualify for Wimbledon's main draw

1929
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 1: in the professional era. That is your sports update. Steve Tasker,

1930
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: along with Tyler Dunn here at One Bill's Drive speaking

1931
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: to you till three o'clock. We're One Bill's Live taking

1932
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: your calls about whether or not the Buffalo Bills are

1933
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: set up for long term success. We've got a lot

1934
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: of feedback on this, and I promised you before the

1935
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: break that we would take a call from Bob in

1936
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I'm gonna try and do that right now.

1937
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, this is Gark. Here we go, Bob, you're

1938
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: on with Tyler Dunne, Steve Tasker here in Buffalo and

1939
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: one Bills Live. What's on your mind? Hey, how you

1940
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: guys doing today? We're doing great? Great. Hey listen, I've

1941
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: been a Bills fans since since the inception and even

1942
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: before there with dual NFL AFL. I'm sorry, I got

1943
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: a question that new air field. It was opened in

1944
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, it was renovated once since then. Is

1945
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: it more feasible or likely or unlikely to build a

1946
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: new stadium or renovated again. Well, first of all, Bob,

1947
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: I gotta correctly. I don't want to get crazy, but

1948
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 1: it's been renovated way more than once. They've had upgrades

1949
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: periodically over the years that have upgraded it. And there

1950
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: was a certainly an enormous one that was done just

1951
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: a handful of years ago where the supergates were put in,

1952
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: the wider concourses were put in, and that was after

1953
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: years late years before that they put in the dugout suites,

1954
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: and that was after years before that they put in

1955
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 1: the luxury suites around both ends, both end zones. Then

1956
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 1: that was before that or after that, or at the

1957
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: same time, maybe they put in the M ANDT bank

1958
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 1: things and the end things. So there's been a number

1959
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: of innovations over the years. It hasn't just been one.

1960
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 1: They've done it year after year. I remember in nineteen

1961
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 1: ninety after the Bills went to their first Super Bowl,

1962
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: the then owner, Ralph C. Wilson Junior, said, listen, the

1963
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 1: lease is up in nineteen ninety nine. We're not going

1964
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: to be able to drop a five hundred million dollars

1965
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: nut on the taxpayers of this region. If we're gonna

1966
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: do this, it is going to take a collaborative effort

1967
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: between us and the taxpayers to make this stadium compatible

1968
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: or come in a put it in a competitive way

1969
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: with the rest of the league. So we better start now.

1970
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 1: So ten years in advance of the least being up

1971
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: they started upgrading, and that's where the dugout suites came.

1972
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 1: At the end of that upgrade process and that big

1973
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: rundown to the eleventh hour when they sold all the suites. Uh,

1974
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: you know the way the deadline the Ralph set up,

1975
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 1: it was met and now it's uh, it's it's really

1976
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: actually in pretty good shape. Well do you think it's

1977
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: likely they will build a new stadium. I think it.

1978
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a possibility. I don't know likely or unlikely. Man,

1979
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's a great deal of

1980
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: research going on right now, and I don't think anybody

1981
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,480
Speaker 1: knows the results of it yet. So I think everything's

1982
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: on the table. New stadium, old stadium, new stadium where

1983
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 1: the old one sits, new stadium downtown, different stadium where

1984
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: the new one sit, you know, where the old one sits,

1985
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 1: a different kind of stadium. All that stuff seems to

1986
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: be on the table, and there's been a, you know,

1987
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation about what it could have, what

1988
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,440
Speaker 1: could happen, and what would happen, and how much affection

1989
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 1: there is for the present location of the stadium with

1990
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: all the tailgating room and the and the tradition of it,

1991
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: and the institutionalization of that particular location or this particular

1992
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: location here in Orchard Park. It's got a lot going

1993
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: for it now after all these years. Well there's not

1994
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: much room up town, is there. Well, believe me, Bob,

1995
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 1: if if they move this stadium, they'll make room for

1996
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: it wherever it is. I'm mean, you know, you got

1997
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: to know that they're gonna have a spot for it.

1998
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 1: But you're right, there is a lot of questions to

1999
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: be answered if they're gonna move the stadium. All right, Hey,

2000
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: thanks for your call, Bob, appreciate it. What are your

2001
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Tyler? I mean you've you I mean yours.

2002
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: You know you you grew up here too, You've seen it.

2003
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been this is more than just

2004
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: a stadium. I mean, it's a generational mecca where Bills

2005
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: fans come to be. Uh And the tailgating and the

2006
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: atmosphere in and around Orchard Park is a big part

2007
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 1: of it, man. I mean, you just hit all the

2008
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: hit all the right notes there, Steve. I just got

2009
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: to get a kick out of, you know, the commissioner

2010
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: really putting the heat on the team. It seems like

2011
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 1: every opportunity, I mean's talking about it at at Jim

2012
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 1: Kelly's golf outing on that the Bills quote unquote, you know,

2013
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: I need to stay competitive. That that's the word I

2014
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: last they checked. The Bills aren't playing any know on

2015
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: rubble and rocks and on blacktop. I mean, it's that's

2016
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: just the push from all the owners, right, everybody. You know,

2017
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 1: the revenue stream, Well, we'll go higher obviously if you

2018
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: have more luxury boxes. That's what every team wants. But

2019
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: it's unique here, as everybody knows, you know, in Buffalo,

2020
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: New York. I think that probably the Bills are gonna

2021
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: look to, you know, another small market team we've talked

2022
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: about here in the Green Bay Packers, and they put in,

2023
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, a two hundred ninety five two hundred ninety

2024
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: five million dollars renovation project early two thousands, and that's

2025
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money to ask you a lot

2026
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 1: of taxpayers. I think the vote was pretty close. It

2027
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: might have been gosh, fifty three forty seven. Yes, so

2028
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: that's pretty close in Green Bay, you know, for that

2029
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: renovation project. But I think something like that, you know,

2030
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: this is just me talking. It makes a lot of

2031
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: sense to you know, they preserve the bowl, they built

2032
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: above the bowl. I mean, you still have the aluminum

2033
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: seatings there that you had back in the sixties and seventies.

2034
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills want that, but there's a

2035
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,480
Speaker 1: way to. I mean, look, it's a year round destination.

2036
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: They have restaurants there, they have a Packer's Hall of

2037
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 1: Fame there. They play off the history and tradition and

2038
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: in so many ways, and they're able to stay in

2039
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Green Bay long term. There's has to be some kind

2040
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: of middle ground solution here that works for everybody, and

2041
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: maybe that money comes from a host of sources. It's

2042
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I'll say this. I mean, it has

2043
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: been done around the league. Particularly you look at New England.

2044
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: They built their stadium from scratch, but they bought the

2045
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: steel ten years before they broke ground on it, so

2046
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 1: they had that laid around and it saved them hundreds

2047
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars. Because and now that stadium is

2048
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: a nice stadium. It's built well, but it's not an

2049
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: enclosed dome, posh kind of atmosphere. Now, certainly the concourses

2050
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: are wide and they've got everything they need, but it's

2051
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: not a you know, it's the thing that makes that

2052
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: go is the area around that stadium where they've developed hotels, restaurants, shopping.

2053
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: It's a it's a destination in and of itself. And

2054
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: you look at and also it was all done, all

2055
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: of it was done with private money. Yeah, that's that's

2056
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: unique and unusual in the NFL. And I'll say this

2057
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 1: as a result of that, you're paying one hundred bucks

2058
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: to park a hundred And that's not like that's not

2059
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: rink side either, you know, I mean that's not that's

2060
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: not right outside the wall. That is, you know, a

2061
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: half mile away. It's a long way away before you

2062
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: get down into the seventy five dollar range and then

2063
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: the fifty dollars range further out. I mean, it's it's

2064
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money, but it's only paid for by

2065
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 1: the people who are using the facility. You know, Joe

2066
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 1: Blow who doesn't go to the games, doesn't have to

2067
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: shell out that kind of money. But it's a big

2068
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: burden on the people who actually have season tickets and

2069
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: who actually want to go and tailgate and do all

2070
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: of that. So but that was one of the things

2071
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 1: they did. They did with private money, and the private

2072
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 1: people are the ones making the money and the buffalo bills.

2073
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 1: It's it's tailgating, it's being out there when it's negative

2074
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: twenty and you know, getting a fire pit going and

2075
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, maybe less people you know, smashing through tables

2076
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: here and there, but it's it is about the atmosphere,

2077
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: the experience, and I feel that there could be a

2078
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: solution where they are now to be quote unquote competitive

2079
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: as Roger Goodell, you know, seems to sail. You're with

2080
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Tyler Dunn on One Bill's Live. We're

2081
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: taking your calls about whether or not the bills are

2082
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: set up welling enough for long term success. We're taking

2083
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: your calls as well. If you want to get in

2084
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: on the conversation, call us at eight O three oh

2085
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: five fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five

2086
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: fifty from out of Buffalo, or you can tweet at

2087
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: us at one Bills Live. We're also taking your calls,

2088
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: and we've got Ken on the line. Ken is from

2089
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: here locally and Elma. Ken. You're on the phone with

2090
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, Steve Tasker, Tyler Dunne. What's on your mind? Hi,

2091
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a free agency for a while.

2092
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 1: I moved here from Philly about nine years ago, so

2093
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: I've been in Philly fan since Jaworski time. Sure, there's

2094
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: always you didn't have that much money to say signs three,

2095
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: four or five free agents, and if you signed a

2096
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 1: linebacker free agent. He was almost pretty guaranteed to play

2097
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: on the team sometime that year. So the Bills have

2098
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:47,520
Speaker 1: been my backup team because my wife's from here. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: My question is they signed nineteen guys. What kind of

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Speaker 1: guarantees do these guys have? What kind of these nineteen

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Speaker 1: guys if they don't make it there out of a

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Speaker 1: job and have no they don't get anything for sure?

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Speaker 1: Or is this I know the offensive line was a mess,

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01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: but like t J. Hilden, yeah's incentive to sign here

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01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen to him? That's interesting question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the incentive to sign here is the same

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01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: incentive that every player has gone around. It's whatever that

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Speaker 1: team offers, either monetarily or the opportunity to play or

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Speaker 1: the probability of playing, what he was told beforehand, what

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Speaker 1: the team says, and really the only guarantee. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about guarantees I thought you were talking about for fans

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Speaker 1: watching these guys play. You're talking about for the players themselves.

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Speaker 1: What guarantees are there? There's never any guarantees ever unless

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Speaker 1: you got it in your contract, and some of these

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Speaker 1: guys signed long term. You've heard about free agency. And

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01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 1: that's the thing we were talking before the show about.

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01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: You know, the big thing now is a guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Levon Bell held out for it, Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown wanted it, Aaron Rodgers wanted it. All these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: wanted And that's a big thing about how much of

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01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: this money, how much of the contracts are guaranteed for

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Speaker 1: these guys when they signed. That's the only guarantees there are, ken,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are no other guarantees. I don't know,

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01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: and that's ever been any different from my era to

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01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 1: the current one right now. So that's and as for so,

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01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: that's it. The player knows. And the only thing that's

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01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: enticing the players to come here is what they are

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01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 1: sold when they come here is on a visit, what

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01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 1: they see with their own two eyes, and what they're

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01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: told by the people involved. I mean, like t J.

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01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeldon has been here. He's doing you know, in training

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01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: campus stuff. So he's a he's been playing for three

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01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: or four years. He signed a contract here for extra

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Speaker 1: divive of dollars. But if they cut him, he's out right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, That's right. Okay, nineteen guys, Wow, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: you think some of these nineteen guys don't have a chance. Well,

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01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 1: offensive line there is you can only carry nine, ten, eleven,

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01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: they're not They're only going to carry like at most nine,

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01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,600
Speaker 1: and they have like thirteen guys on the roster. So

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01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about four or five guys yeah, that aren't

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01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: going to make it, that are not gonna make it. Yeah,

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01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 1: and some of them we'll probably have some credentials, but

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01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 1: that's what that's what guys are looking at all around

2144
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: the league. You're right, and you're right if you look

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01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: at the numbers and you look at where they are

2146
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 1: and where they've been, some of these guys are not

2147
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 1: going to make a team who had a bad offensive

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01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 1: line last year, but who has taken great steps toward improving.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a tougher team to make this year than

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01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: it's been in a number of years. So thanks for

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01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: a call. Ken, good problem to have right when you

2152
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: when you've got to make those decisions if you're the Bills,

2153
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 1: and this kind of gets to maybe the heart of

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01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: the next you know, CBA negotiation right guarantee contracts these

2155
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: players to see what all these NBA free agents are

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01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: making these past couple of weeks and heck, they want

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01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 1: to guaranteed money. And this is a good question for you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I mean, say there is more guaranteed money in that

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Speaker 1: next deal, Say that that somehow the players get that

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01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: is is that when you see maybe players, you know,

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Speaker 1: tapping out with a sore ankle or there could be

2162
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 1: a phantom injury here that I'm sure that's the leverage

2163
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: these teams want to have, is the money's not guaranteed,

2164
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: we need you to play Sunday. Football is a little

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01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: bit more physical, a little bit more violent than than

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01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 1: basketball baseball. I mean, that's probably why teams don't want

2167
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: guaranteed money there. It has to be a bigger reason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no question about it. The physical toll that football

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01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 1: takes is a bigger risk for players than the NBA

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01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: and it and conversely, it's a bigger risk for the

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01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: employers the team. They may lose this guy. The Cincinnati

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01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: Bengals just lost their first pick of the draft because

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01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: of a shoulder injury. He's not gonna play this year. Period, done, gone, Well,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna guarantee that money. You know what if it's

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01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: a free agent you just signed. What if t J.

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01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: Yelden or whatever you know, Marcel Darius, you know, goes

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Speaker 1: down with an achilles. Now you're on the hook for

2178
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: one hundred million bucks for a guy that can't help you,

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01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 1: and that's a ton of your salary space, salary cap.

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01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: So I have always thought that it was the longest

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01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 1: of shots for the CBA to ever include guaranteed salaries.

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01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll ever happen. I don't think the

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01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: owners will ever go for that. They will have a lockout,

2184
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 1: they will they'll bring in scab players, replacement players. Again.

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01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: They will not go down that road because it opens

2186
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 1: up all those guys you've seen signed big deals and

2187
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: they take it out of gear. They don't play hard,

2188
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: they don't show up for work. They don't have to

2189
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 1: do it because the money's guaranteed, Because the game commands

2190
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: so much emotional content, they just can't. They don't want

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01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: to dredge it up anymore because they've got their pockets

2192
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: full and their life is easy. They don't want to

2193
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 1: go through that discomfort. Do you think the players will

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01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 1: just seed defeat? There is going to be a point

2195
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: of contention, It'll be a com point of contention. I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how far either side will take it.

2197
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: I know the owners will probably go down with the

2198
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: ship before they do that. I mean they'll they'll hold

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01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: their noses and go under before they allow that to happen,

2200
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: because it's just too big a risk for them and

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Speaker 1: the players. I think the best thing the players could

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01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: hope for is say we want it, we want it,

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01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: we want it. Will you give us if we give it,

2204
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,440
Speaker 1: let it go and they We'll see where that goes.

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01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 1: We'll see where that could compromise, and that seems more

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01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: likely to me. Tyler Done, Steve Tasker on one Bills Live.

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01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 1: Are the Bills set up well enough for long term success?

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01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: On the tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan's Moving System.

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Speaker 1: The official movers are the Buffalo Bills. We've got this

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01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: from Wendell. He says, I believe they are. The way

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01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: the team has grown together from year one to year

2212
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 1: three is going to be on full display, and our

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01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: team is going to turn the NFL on its ear.

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01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 1: There's a more positive outlook from Wendel than we've heard

2215
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: from a lot of people around. From Jack, he says,

2216
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: I believe they're on their way. This year feels like

2217
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight to me, young talented quarterback developing with

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01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: a young roster and an excellent defense. I don't know

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01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: if they'll win twelve games like eighty eight, but I

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01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: think they'll get overlooked by the NFL and surprise a

2221
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: lot of people set the future bright hashtag playoffs. Well,

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01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, that's you know, it's a lot

2223
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 1: to ask, but he's right, there are some similarities. You've

2224
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 1: got a quarterback who showed some things, not a lot

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01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: of great things, didn't have a great supporting cast around him,

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01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly in nineteen eighty seven. Then in nineteen eighty

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01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: eight they draft Thurman Thomas, and all of a sudden

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01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: things change a little bit. This year they drafted Ed Oliver.

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01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: That changes things a little bit. Actually, maybe makes things

2230
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: even better than it did, uh for that defense a

2231
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: year ago. We'll see. But yeah, there are some similarities

2232
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: to draw from nineteen eighty eight. Although you know, going

2233
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 1: from six wins to twelve wins maybe a lot to ask. Yeah,

2234
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know better than me. I think you

2235
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: hit it though, with with Therma Thomas. I mean that

2236
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: definitely changed things very very quickly. You got pretty good

2237
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: when they got him and I'm not so sure Therma

2238
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 1: Thomas is walking through that door right now. But they

2239
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: don't necessarily envision winning the way that those teams won.

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01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Maybe obviously Sean McDermott wants to win with defense. To

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01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,679
Speaker 1: draft at Oliver with your first pick instead of somebody

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01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: on offense who could have helped an offense that needed

2243
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: a lot more help than your defense needed, that tells

2244
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: you a lot about the identity of the team and

2245
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: what they envisioned. Yeah, I don't know if that guy

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01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: was there though. Offensively, I mean, receivers fell way down

2247
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 1: and they were drafted sporadically throughout the second half of

2248
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean there was no you know,

2249
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: even you know, the flavor of the of the draft

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01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: h DK Metcalf. I mean he didn't you know, you know,

2251
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: everybody's thinking mad he could be a top top ten

2252
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 1: that never people knew, right, So, um got those that

2253
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 1: position was not as deep in this draft, wasn't as

2254
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 1: quality in this draft. And I think the Bills, true

2255
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: to what they have shown under this regime, have stayed

2256
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: in the line. They've taken the best guy available. They've

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01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: got them. They got themselves to a point for this

2258
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 1: draft that they weren't in as Sean mcdermots, as a

2259
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 1: positional emergency where they had to take a guy at

2260
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: this position because they had nobody else they weren't there, uh,

2261
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 1: and that allowed them to take an Ed Oliver at

2262
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: the spot where they didn't nowt theoretically and maybe fortuitously

2263
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: at Oliver's at the exact same position and the right

2264
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: guy at the right time when they lost a key

2265
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: player in Kyle Williamson, And that was a little bit serendipitous,

2266
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: no question about it. But nevertheless, Ed Oliver was projected

2267
01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 1: at something for some of a top five pick, a

2268
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: top three pick. He was a great, really talented player

2269
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 1: at the right position. So the Bills, by staying discipline,

2270
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 1: got a chance to did a guy like that. And

2271
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: whether it's lucky or not, at least they weren't. They

2272
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 1: were smart enough not to mess it up, which, right,

2273
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 1: that's huge given the past history of this team. Back

2274
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: in a decade ago, man saying something, you know they

2275
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 1: and you could tell that he was targeted. You know

2276
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 1: that they're great behind the scenes video you know on

2277
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: the Bill's team website, a lot of fist pumps, you

2278
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 1: know from from Brandon being to Josh and Dan Morgan,

2279
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: this whole front office. The second the Lions didn't take

2280
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: at Oliver, you knew the Bills wanted at Oliver, which

2281
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: tells you a lot as well. I mean, I guess,

2282
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: to play Devil's advocate, maybe that pick could have been dangled.

2283
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Maybe there was a team out there that loved at

2284
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 1: Oliver even more, and you're able to get i don't know,

2285
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: an extra second or something to move down and build

2286
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 1: your offense with a couple of guys that maybe contribute

2287
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: right away. But I'll say this, I mean, they love

2288
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 1: Singletary and they probably would have taken him a lot

2289
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,440
Speaker 1: higher than they did if they had to. Well there's

2290
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 1: and that's one thing too, that you get into a

2291
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: position where you can take a guy where you're picking

2292
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 1: instead of trading up to get him and giving somebody

2293
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: else up. And and yeah, the draft picks are gold

2294
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: these days, and I think the Bills are I think

2295
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 1: it did it right. I mean, I like the way

2296
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 1: their draft felt unfolded. I like the guys they got

2297
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: at the top. And we'll see if if it all

2298
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 1: pans out, there's you know, there's always that question, but

2299
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 1: we'll see, we're asking our bills fans. Are you set

2300
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 1: Are the Bills set up well for long term success?

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01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 1: You can call us at eight or three five fifty

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01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 1: or one eight, eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's

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01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 1: talk to Zaire in Buffalo Za. You're talking about ed

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01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds and how they affect what

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01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 1: this team has done to get ready to be successful

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01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 1: long term. What are your thoughts? Yes, I believe that

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01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 1: we are set up long term for the future, simply

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01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 1: because we drafted those two guys at the same exact draft.

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01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: If you think about it, we have two young leaders

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01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: that control of the offense and the defensive side of

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01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: the ball, and we have them at young ages. Tremaine

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01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 1: Evans was only what twenty when he came into the league,

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01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 1: and he was nineteen when he was drafted nineteen, so yeah,

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01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: he's twenty niles. So now he's twenty one. He just

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01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 1: he turned twenty twenty right after the draft, like a

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01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 1: week or two after the draft. I think in early May.

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01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 1: I think he turns his birthday is his birthday, So

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01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 1: this year he turned twenty one after just turning twenty

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01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: after he was drafted go ahead, Zier. So like coming

2320
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 1: up watching the Bills, I can't remember a time where

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01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: we've had the centerpiece of the offense and decent pacide

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01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: of the ball at the same time. And they're both

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01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: at almost the same age, which was very young, but

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01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,759
Speaker 1: it had time to grow and grow to those leaders,

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01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: and as the parts to get better around them, the

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01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 1: team will only get better because we have those two

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01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 1: head honchos in place. Yeah, I agree, and that's it's

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01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 1: a great point. So I appreciate the call. And not

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01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: only that, I think one thing he'll be he'll, I say,

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01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 1: he'll Josh Allen is going to be the only one

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01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks drafted that is gonna have his coaching

2332
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: staff intact from one year to the next in the

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01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 1: same system. Now, now Baker Mayfield will probably be in

2334
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 1: the same system, but this is gonna be Freddie Kitchens

2335
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 1: taking over for an offense where last year it was

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01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: Todd Haley and his offense coming in announced Freddie Kitchens,

2337
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 1: who was elevated from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator, then

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01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 1: to head coach, and now he's been retained as head

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01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: coach and he's got an entirely new team and an

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01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 1: entirely new job. So you take that into account along

2341
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: with what happened in Miami, total new staff, new coach,

2342
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 1: head coach, and in Green and in New York with

2343
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 1: the Jets. So it happened with Sam Darnold. He's got

2344
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: a whole new offense, whole new head coach, whole new system.

2345
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:45,839
Speaker 1: So you know, Josh Allen and then well, Deshaun Watson

2346
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: in Baltimore gets to stay in the same coaching staff's right, ye,

2347
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson stays at the same thing in Baltimore. So, uh,

2348
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is one of the few, one of two

2349
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: guys from that draft class in the first round who

2350
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 1: gets to keep everything in tact going from one year

2351
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: to the next. I think that's a help, and I

2352
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 1: think it's now here brings it into it, brought it

2353
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 1: into focus that you get these guys young enough, and

2354
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 1: you get some stability around him and then kind of

2355
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 1: upgrade what's around him. You have every reason to think

2356
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna get improvement. I mean it sounds cliche, but

2357
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean continuity matters, doesn't it. I mean, look at

2358
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 1: Alex Smith's career. How many different offensive coordinators did he

2359
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: have his first what six seven? He had like one

2360
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: every year, Yeah, had different one every year, and then

2361
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: once he got a little stability, once Jim Harball got

2362
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 1: in there. I mean he was a Pro Bowl quarterback,

2363
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, an all paro quarterback almost, So it matters.

2364
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: You just want to have the right continuity, right, You

2365
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 1: don't want to have the wrong coaches and the wrong

2366
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: GM and the wrong quarterback sticking around through five and

2367
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: six win seasons. But yeah, there are promising earlier signs

2368
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: that suggest that maybe this is the start of something big.

2369
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 1: And I think with Edmonds, I mean you're talking about

2370
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 1: a young what is he now, twenty years old? Twenty one,

2371
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: just turned twenty one a month and a half. Oh

2372
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: my gosh, six five, two fifty three. He ran a

2373
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 1: four or five. He's got all the numbers you could

2374
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: ever look for. He's gonna have a bigger impact than

2375
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, Preston Brown, who solid starter. You know, there's

2376
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: a reason he was around as long as he was.

2377
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: But they clearly wanted an impact player in the middle

2378
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 1: of their defense, and maybe they found him and they

2379
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: got it, and they are building around these guys. They're young.

2380
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: They showed some things, and now certainly they've got some

2381
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: ways to go, as you would expect, but they were

2382
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 1: rookies who certainly didn't disappoint a year ago, showed a

2383
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: lot of intrigue and a lot of promise, and I

2384
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 1: think the Bills are right to give him another year

2385
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: and to hitch their wagon to these two guys. They've

2386
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 1: done a lot of great things. They're hard working guys.

2387
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 1: The players rallied around him, and they tended to improve

2388
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: week after week after week. So we'll see how that goes.

2389
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 1: Tyler done. Steve Tasker on One Bills Live. We're here

2390
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 1: till three o'clock. Right after the bottom of the hour,

2391
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna take your call from Carl and Clarence will

2392
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 1: get back to you about whether the Bills are set

2393
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: up for long term success. You're listening to One Bills Live,

2394
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive and this

2395
01:55:55,560 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives.

2396
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,879
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Tyler dunne In. Murphy is on vacation

2397
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: this week. Chris Brown will be in co hosting tomorrow.

2398
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 1: We've been talking today about whether or not Bills fans

2399
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: think the team. Bills are set up well enough for

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01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 1: long term success. Certainly there's some question marks going around,

2401
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 1: but for the most part, I think Bill's fans like

2402
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 1: what they've seen of what the team has done this

2403
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: offseason and over the last two or three years of

2404
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: the McDermott and being rain or regime. I guess you

2405
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: call it a regime that could turn into a rain

2406
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 1: they hope, right, exactly right, Yeah. I just think they

2407
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: made smart decisions like you, like you were hitting out earlier,

2408
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 1: not a lot of bad money thrown around. They were

2409
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 1: patient with how they went about the quarterback position, and

2410
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: they targeted who they wanted to target. So year three,

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01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 1: in any regime, it's it's time to win. I mean

2412
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: you see it around the league. Look at San Francisco Away,

2413
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon and John Lynch. They know it's time to win.

2414
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: There you get to that third year, the time for

2415
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 1: culture changing and rebuilding and all those buzzwords process. I

2416
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: don't know if fans want to hear those words now.

2417
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 1: They want to see wins and they want to see

2418
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: playoff wins. That's exactly right on the tweet sheet. Or

2419
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: the Bills set up well enough for long term success

2420
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: from Swice is nice, miss you guys. The Bills are

2421
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: absolutely set up for both short term and long term

2422
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: success seventeen and forty nine. That means Josh Allen, Tremaine

2423
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 1: Edmonds by themselves are prime examples are the necessary building blocks.

2424
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 1: Coach and GM are working as one, top notch facilities

2425
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: and an established culture will continue to bring in bring

2426
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: the right guys in. Also from Brian on the tweet sheet,

2427
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 1: look look out, I'm pouring kool aid. We are well positioned.

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01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 1: The two most impactful pickups are the coaches and GM.

2429
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Far more optimistic than the last two decades. It's like

2430
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: we've planted a garden. It's budding all over and it's

2431
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 1: only a matter of time until it blossoms, hopefully early

2432
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: to mid season. That's been kind of the tone of everything,

2433
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 1: and we've said it all along. Murph and I have

2434
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: made the point from early in the offseason's hard to

2435
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: imagine a more optimistic six and ten franchise. And the

2436
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are headed into this offseason and now into

2437
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 1: into training camp. Yeah, there's a lot of optimism. You know.

2438
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 1: It's funny though this time of year, that this sweet

2439
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: spot in the calendar right before training camp. I think

2440
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 1: this conversation is probably being had around around the NFL.

2441
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of optimism everywhere you look.

2442
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean look in the division with the New York Jets. Now,

2443
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 1: I know they had all kinds of drama there with

2444
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 1: the GM Leavin and Adam gazes. You know, you know,

2445
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 1: control for more power, you know, the power grab there

2446
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 1: whenever you want to call it. But there's some reason

2447
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 1: for optimism there too. I mean, they've got a quarterback

2448
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: in Sam Darnold they think they can build around. And oh,

2449
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:48,800
Speaker 1: by the way, maybe they just added the best player

2450
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: in all the football. Levion Bell is somebody you can

2451
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: line up all over the field and then we didn't

2452
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: play last year. But maybe that's not necessarily a bad

2453
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: thing as a running back to not take those hits

2454
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 1: for a full year. If he's in shape, they might

2455
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 1: have the best player, you know, in the division when

2456
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 1: you're not looking at the quarterback position. This is somebody

2457
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: that could change that team in so many different ways. Yeah, absolutely,

2458
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 1: well we got Also, let's take one last call for

2459
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 1: the show. Carl has been waiting for quite some time.

2460
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 1: Carl from Clarence, You're on the air with Tyler done

2461
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: to Steve Tasker on One Bills Live. What's on your

2462
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 1: mind any guys? Hos it going great? Shows? Always John

2463
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 1: of vacation or is he playing hookie? Because I know

2464
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 1: fort Airy race tracks. It might be both. I mean,

2465
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's vacation not count as hookie, but yeah,

2466
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 1: he's on vacation. Yeah, he loves his horses. Anyways, there's

2467
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 1: a ting the call takers that everything being fairly equal relative.

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01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 1: We don't talk enough about all competition. I think I

2469
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: can county elite teams in the league on one hand,

2470
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,839
Speaker 1: the other's twenty five. I think we're all pretty much equal,

2471
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 1: and I think there's like ten that totally sucked and

2472
01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: we could beat should be for all the five times.

2473
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: So I'm being closed. I think if we can hold

2474
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 1: the opponents to twenty this season, I think we're going

2475
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: to get a lot of wins. And when we don't

2476
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 1: hold them twenty, I think we may lose. But I

2477
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: think we will be putting it on average at least

2478
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 1: twenty one on board for a game. I appreciate Carl. Thanks,

2479
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 1: it's a nice it's a nice take. It's interesting too

2480
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,200
Speaker 1: that Yeah, you're right. I mean the twenty is kind

2481
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 1: of the magic number for defense around the NFL. If

2482
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 1: you can hold them to twenty, you feel like you

2483
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 1: got a chance to win offensively, even with an average

2484
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 1: or even below average offense. If you can get and

2485
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:36,040
Speaker 1: if you can win any other you know, like with

2486
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: an explosive play or with a turnover, you know you're

2487
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna win more games than you lose if you can

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02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 1: do that. And that's because games in the NFL are

2489
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 1: tending to be more and more high scoring. They are,

2490
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 1: and that's what the league wants. I mean, look at

2491
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 1: the rule changes just this offseason. They're twenty I should

2492
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 1: say changes the instant replay. I mean, now you're gonna

2493
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 1: be able to look at a coverage on the island

2494
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: there with a cornerback and the receiver in slow motion

2495
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 1: and and dissect that in slow motion. I mean, it's

2496
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 1: kind of insane if you ask me, if you ask

2497
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL cornerbacks. So I think that's right.

2498
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Maybe we're Buffalo does have an advantage when you have

2499
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 1: a coach in Sean McDermott who knows that position so

2500
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 1: as any coach in the NFL and can adjust to

2501
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 1: these changes in the rules where now you know you

2502
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 1: can review something like that. It's an offensive. It's an

2503
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: offensive league. Don't get me wrong. They're gonna have to

2504
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 1: score if they want to win it all. They're gonna

2505
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 1: have to, you know, go drive for drive with Tom Brady,

2506
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 1: which I don't know if they're there yet, but at

2507
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 1: least they have something in place. At least they have

2508
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: an identity, a direction, and you know, we know where

2509
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 1: the league's heading. And at least they have a coach

2510
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 1: who can somehow go with those absurd changes. That's right,

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02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:39,480
Speaker 1: all right, it's time now. Thank you Tyler for that,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. But it's time now for

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02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 1: NFL True false brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New

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02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: York's artist and chief. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with

2515
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 1: number one, the first NFL true false. The number one,

2516
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 1: the two thy thirteen Seahawks are the top team of

2517
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: this decade. It's true false. I think I'll go first,

2518
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say yes, you can tell me what

2519
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 1: you want. Here's why I think that they won the

2520
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, no question about it, and that's a given.

2521
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 1: But here's the reason I think They're one of the

2522
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,080
Speaker 1: best teams of this decade, maybe even greater. I think

2523
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 1: they put on the best defensive performance of any team

2524
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 1: in any Super Bowl bar none, even better than the

2525
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 1: eighty five Bears, better than any other defense you can name.

2526
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 1: Because of this, the offense they faced in the Denver

2527
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 1: Broncos in Super Bowl I believe it was forty eight,

2528
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 1: was the record setting offense of the decade. They were

2529
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:31,040
Speaker 1: absolutely a juggernaut. Peyton Manning was still throwing the football

2530
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: extremely well. They had Wes Welker, They had all of

2531
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 1: these great games in Denver with this offense. It was

2532
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 1: an absolute juggernaut in Denver offensively, and the Seattle Seahawks

2533
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: crushed that team in the Super Bowl. It was no contest,

2534
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 1: and I think that gives seat the Seahawks in my opinion,

2535
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 1: the nod as the greatest team of that decade because

2536
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 1: the winning that they have done and the performance they

2537
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 1: put together that team. I don't know if there's been

2538
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 1: a team in this decade they would have beaten that team.

2539
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 1: They just bludged him that night in New York, didn't they.

2540
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Denver was averaging thirty eight points a game

2541
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 1: that season, Peyton Manning was playing out of his mind

2542
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 1: set in rockets all over the place, and I mean

2543
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 1: they made him look like a JV offense. It was unbelievable.

2544
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna go false. I'm gonna say

2545
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 1: that the twenty sixteen Patriots just a it's hard to

2546
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 1: disagree with you there, but I mean, you're talking about

2547
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's revenge tour when he started missing the four games,

2548
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 1: still throws for twenty eight touchdownds, two picks a grock

2549
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 1: missed half the year. I mean, they blasted the Texans

2550
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the playoffs, and I think a team

2551
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 1: that gets out of a twenty eight to three whole

2552
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 1: to win at all, I mean that that alone kind

2553
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:39,560
Speaker 1: of makes you the best team of the decade. And

2554
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 1: you think too, it's that was the game they came

2555
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 1: back from twenty eight to three down and won that

2556
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, no question, fourteen and two. It's a real

2557
02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 1: feat for that team. I think they were twelve and

2558
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:53,760
Speaker 1: one with eleven and one with Brady's or quarterback in

2559
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 1: the regular season when he came back after them. Okay,

2560
02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 1: NFL food true false. Number two. Nick Foles will help

2561
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:03,200
Speaker 1: get the Jaguars back to the playoffs in two and nineteen.

2562
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 1: Go you can go first, Tyler, I'm gonna say true.

2563
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Jacksonville's defense is still a top

2564
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 1: five defense that you know. Look that they did not

2565
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 1: have much support at all from their offense even when

2566
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: they were one of the best defenses in the NFL

2567
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. To replace Blake Bortles. When

2568
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, that's night and day. Foles just has this effect.

2569
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 1: I think that every team seeks out of that position.

2570
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,800
Speaker 1: He really does make everybody around him better. He injects

2571
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: a belief. I can still remember being out there in

2572
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 1: Philly during their bye week when everybody was counting this

2573
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:36,360
Speaker 1: team out, when Carson Wentz was done with that torn

2574
02:04:36,440 --> 02:04:39,200
Speaker 1: acl I mean to a man from Lane Johnson on

2575
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 1: the offensive line to go alshon, Jeffrey Tory Smith. Everybody

2576
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:45,920
Speaker 1: in that locker room in that moment believe that Nick

2577
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 1: Foles was going to bring them to the Super Bowl

2578
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 1: and win it. That's exactly what he did. Don't call

2579
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,000
Speaker 1: him a system quarterback. I mean you're talking about the

2580
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 1: same Patriots defense that you know took it to Sean

2581
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:58,200
Speaker 1: McVay and get Jared Gold. They din't scored a touchdown

2582
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 1: in that last Super Bowl. For Nick Foles to do

2583
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 1: what he did in the Super Bowl before that Super

2584
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:05,160
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP, I think that he takes Jacksonville, maybe not

2585
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 1: over the hun to the super Bowl, but he makes

2586
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 1: them a playoff team, no doubt. I think it's false.

2587
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,320
Speaker 1: I think the windows slam shut for the Jaguars. I

2588
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 1: think I think that Doug Marone and their program are

2589
02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 1: deteriorating as we watched. I thought they they did hit

2590
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 1: a high note at the end of the two thousand

2591
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 1: and seventeen season, but last year they took a step

2592
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 1: back where they had a seven game losing streak last year.

2593
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: I think they're done. I think Nick Foles is going

2594
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 1: to help him. Certainly. They may play more consistently offensively,

2595
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 1: but their defense is not what it was two years ago,

2596
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,080
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna that trend is gonna continue.

2597
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say Nick Foles, as good as he

2598
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:42,120
Speaker 1: has been, he's gonna improve them. But I do not

2599
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 1: think he's gonna put that team in the playoffs. I

2600
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 1: think their windows shut too quickly and it's over. So

2601
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false. Okay, last one NFL True false,

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02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 1: Number three, JJ Watt was the best selection from the

2603
02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven draft. True or false. I guess I

2604
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 1: can go first on this one. You gotta remember back

2605
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:06,440
Speaker 1: that was Cam Newton went number one, Von Miller went

2606
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 1: number two. AJ Green went number four, Patrick Peterson went

2607
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals, Tyron Smith to the Dallas Cowboys

2608
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:17,680
Speaker 1: as left tackled, and then JJ Watt was number eleven.

2609
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 1: And they're saying he was the best player. Now, three

2610
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: time defensive MVP pretty good, But you got a couple

2611
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,200
Speaker 1: of guys up there that are pretty good to Cam

2612
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 1: Newton and Von Miller's respectively. What do you think true? False?

2613
02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, yet, three time Defensive Player of the Year

2614
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 1: got robbed of an MVP, you know, just a few

2615
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 1: years back. I'm gonna say false. I think JJ watking

2616
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 1: do a lot, and it's hard to say false to this,

2617
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 1: but man, I mean I think I think Julio Jones,

2618
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, is going to finish

2619
02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 1: as a Hall of Famer in his own right. And

2620
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 1: he took Atlanta to the Super Bowl. He had really

2621
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 1: what should have been the signature play in that Super

2622
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:52,960
Speaker 1: Bowl that catch that we all thought sealed the win

2623
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 1: for Atlanta. JJ Watt unbelievable talent, but hasn't equated to

2624
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, playoff wins, hasn't equate the Super Bowl appearances. Um,

2625
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 1: I think there's not gonna be another Julio Jones for

2626
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 1: quite some time. I'll say false as well. I don't

2627
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 1: think I think j JJ has is a great player,

2628
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: no question about it, but his susceptibility to injury has

2629
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 1: hindered his legacy. I think that other players. Von Miller

2630
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:21,520
Speaker 1: in particular is on a collision course with the Hall

2631
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 1: of Fame as well. And I think Cam Newton was

2632
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 1: it was an MVP of the NFL and got his

2633
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:31,080
Speaker 1: team to the Super Bowl. JJ is not. Cam Newton

2634
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 1: has been the difference maker for an entire franchise for

2635
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: almost for what has been his entire career. JJ has

2636
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 1: had three years where he was an offensive MVP, and

2637
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,919
Speaker 1: he is a great player. But I think as a

2638
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:47,480
Speaker 1: franchise changer, I think Cam Newton gets the nod. And

2639
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 1: I think you can put von Miller right there with

2640
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,960
Speaker 1: JJ Watt as for his effectiveness in his ability to

2641
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 1: wreck a game. So I'm gonna say false to that.

2642
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 1: As well. So that is NFL true false, brought to

2643
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 1: you by Yancy's Nancy New York's Artisan Cheese. Well, we're

2644
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna hang it out. I don't know what do you

2645
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:10,120
Speaker 1: think about. Is he is JJ Watter Hall of Famer? Oh? Absolutely,

2646
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 1: he's got to be after eight years, I think so.

2647
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 1: I think so. I think we haven't seen missed significant

2648
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 1: amount of time to injury. Three time defensive MVP though,

2649
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 1: three time Defensive Player of the Year, I mean really

2650
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 1: should have been the MVP of the entire league in

2651
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:26,800
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. I mean what he was doing affecting games

2652
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 1: in every possible way. I mean forrest fumbles, interceptions, bad

2653
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 1: at balls, catching touchdowns. I don't know how much he

2654
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 1: has left at his peak. I think these injuries are

2655
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 1: starting to add up a little bit for JJ Watt.

2656
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:39,480
Speaker 1: I think one thing we can agree on, Steve, it's

2657
02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 1: not Marcel Darius right. I mean, he's probably not the

2658
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:43,960
Speaker 1: best player. JJ Watts murder did not put it get

2659
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:45,880
Speaker 1: put into idole when he signed one hundred million dollars

2660
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 1: to not JJ Watt continue to keep his foot on

2661
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:49,320
Speaker 1: the gas. And I think you got to tip your

2662
02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:51,240
Speaker 1: hat to him, if if only for that, even though

2663
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:53,000
Speaker 1: it is I mean, it's the right thing to do.

2664
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 1: If they're paying you that kind of money, should give

2665
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:57,040
Speaker 1: a full effort. And some guys we've seen don't. They

2666
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 1: just don't. They different guy, And it is a human

2667
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 1: nature thing, no question about it, but something you should take.

2668
02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. At some level, you gotta take some

2669
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 1: pride in what you do and why you do it,

2670
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:11,920
Speaker 1: and if it's for the money, ultimately you're not going

2671
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 1: to be as good as you can be. JJ Watt

2672
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,920
Speaker 1: is motivated by something else, you can say whatever. I

2673
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but he still got his

2674
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:22,320
Speaker 1: foot on the gas and talking about long term success

2675
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 1: and building a structure that ensures long term success. I mean,

2676
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 1: I think that has to be a big part of

2677
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 1: it for this Bills regime. Right, it's your scouts, your

2678
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:33,280
Speaker 1: personnel department really seeing what makes these guys tick and

2679
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 1: not screwing up like that front office did in that draft.

2680
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, to not get an all pro out of

2681
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 1: that draft, and that's set the Bills back. You're talking

2682
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:44,200
Speaker 1: about Cam Newton von Miller, then Darius AJ Green, Patrick Peterson,

2683
02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and Tyrant Smith down at the Cowboys at nine,

2684
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:50,440
Speaker 1: JJ Watt at eleven. I mean Robert Quinn, I think

2685
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman was in this draft, and what the fifth round?

2686
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an all time draft. Cameron Jordan. Absolutely,

2687
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 1: it's great and that is NFL true false. Brought to

2688
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 1: you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist and Cheese. We're

2689
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna be back to finish up. We're gonna be here

2690
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 1: till three o'clock. Tyler Dunn and Steve Tasker One Bills

2691
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:08,720
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

2692
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:22,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Here. We're here till

2693
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:24,320
Speaker 1: just the top of the hour. Here a few more minutes.

2694
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:25,560
Speaker 1: We had one thing we wanted to get to. We're

2695
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 1: talking about everything under the sun today and we've got

2696
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:32,160
Speaker 1: side tracked. Well, didn't get side track. We actually didn't

2697
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 1: get sidetracked enough because we wanted to talk about this

2698
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:36,000
Speaker 1: one play that happened in Major League Baseball. We've been

2699
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 1: talking about the Buffalo Bills and are they set up

2700
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 1: well enough for long term success. Been talking to people

2701
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:44,360
Speaker 1: all over the country about that, and most of the

2702
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 1: sentiment has been, of course, they are there. They got

2703
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:48,800
Speaker 1: a young talent. They're building a culture and they've done

2704
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 1: all the right things and stayed inside the lines. But

2705
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:53,800
Speaker 1: now the pressure's on, you know, they gotta win, right,

2706
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 1: So that's that's it. But now with this thing happened

2707
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, I guess it happened yesterday. Jay

2708
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:05,240
Speaker 1: Mary's Neck and John Lucroix had a collision at home plate.

2709
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 1: And for those of MSG, they're watching it, and Mary's

2710
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 1: Nick's coming around third base. Um, there's a tag and

2711
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:14,640
Speaker 1: run and the Astro's runner comes in and bowls over

2712
02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 1: the catcher for the Angels, who is John Lucroix broke

2713
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:23,600
Speaker 1: his nose actually went out of his way. I mean,

2714
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:26,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty egregious hit. I thought some people are saying, no, no,

2715
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: the ketcher was blocking the plate or whatever. But the

2716
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 1: runner went off the bass path and went inside the

2717
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:35,400
Speaker 1: bass path and actually went at the catcher in order

2718
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 1: to try and score. He did score, but the catcher's

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Speaker 1: nose was broken, and uh, you know that was I

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Speaker 1: thought it was an egregious, egregious hit. That's about, you know,

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Speaker 1: as bad as it gets in I'm no baseball expert,

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Speaker 1: but doesn't it really look like he's going for the

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02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 1: plate there, Steve, He's not. He did now he felt

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Speaker 1: he showed quick remorse, uh for right away. I mean

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Speaker 1: he got up and went right to the guy and

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Speaker 1: helped him and you know and try to console him

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Speaker 1: and whatever and you know, apologize. But he took the

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Speaker 1: guy out, no question about it. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: a suspendable offense myself. I think he can't do that.

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Speaker 1: He went inside the line, he changed his path a

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02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:22,960
Speaker 1: couple of steps before the collision in order to make

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Speaker 1: the collision happen. He didn't make any kind of attempt

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Speaker 1: to avoid the catcher. The catcher was you can say

2734
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 1: he was on the line, off line, it was. The

2735
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Speaker 1: guy could have slid around him and been safe as well, whatever.

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02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:37,960
Speaker 1: But he ran into the guy on purpose and took

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Speaker 1: him out and busted his nose. Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is uh what a late nineties, early two thousands,

2739
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, NFL safety just had, you know, head first,

2740
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 1: just ramming into a guy without trying to break up

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02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 1: or make any play for the ball whatsoever. I would

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02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 1: think he's suspended. I'd be shocked if he wasn't, he

2743
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:56,800
Speaker 1: should be. I don't know. I just think if you

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02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 1: get a chance go on go on Twitter or online

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02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:02,160
Speaker 1: and look at the collision. Uh, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think it was egregious. I'm not a big baseball fan,

2747
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:08,200
Speaker 1: but that to me is a no brainer from a

2748
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:11,320
Speaker 1: guy who I'm pretty sure that the ball is stuffed

2749
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 1: not blown up in baseball. But that's about all I know.

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Speaker 1: I knew there's not air in the baseball. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, I'm with you. Yeah. Anyway, Tyler, thanks for

2752
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 1: coming in, man, it's been fun. Appreciate I'm glad we'll

2753
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:27,000
Speaker 1: have you back in and um, it was I appreciate

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02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 1: you taking time. I know you're as busy anything with

2755
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:30,880
Speaker 1: your work with Bleacher Report. I know you guys do

2756
02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:32,520
Speaker 1: good work over there. We had a chance to talk

2757
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:35,560
Speaker 1: about your article of last spring of you know when Aaron,

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02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:39,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy parted ways. Is well researched

2759
02:13:39,680 --> 02:13:41,480
Speaker 1: and I encourage everybody to go read it and read

2760
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 1: your stuff on Bleacher Report. Thanks so much, Steve An.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Appreciate that that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us. And One Bill's Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Like to thank production assistance George Bloss, Jeff Colton,

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Speaker 1: act Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ Territo, Kevin Cargis and

2765
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:57,240
Speaker 1: James Roebel, and of course our producer Jay Harris. Murph

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02:13:57,320 --> 02:13:59,080
Speaker 1: is out for the week. Chris Brown will be back

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02:13:59,120 --> 02:14:01,280
Speaker 1: with us tomorrow. Bills Live will be on from noon

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Speaker 1: to three. This has been one Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Thanks everybody,