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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 2: Thomas is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Sophie. So in

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Speaker 2: a little while, So in just a few minutes, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna call Sophie and see if she'll tell us why

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Speaker 2: she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But

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Speaker 2: before we do that, Thomas, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since you heard from Sophie.

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Speaker 3: It's been about four days. Okay, that's not too bad.

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Speaker 3: You're sure you getting ghosted.

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Speaker 4: I have sent a few messages and I haven't heard back,

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Speaker 4: so at this point I do.

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Speaker 3: Think I'm get ghosted. Okay, well, let's hear about your date.

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Speaker 3: How did that go?

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Speaker 4: So, in my mind, it went pretty well. I think

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Speaker 4: we had some drinks and advertisers. We got to know

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Speaker 4: each other a little bit, and it was good overall.

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Speaker 4: There was one moment where we I don't even want

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Speaker 4: to call it an argument, but we did have a

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Speaker 4: little like heated back and forth for a minute. So

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Speaker 4: that's why I'm thinking that's what it probably was.

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Speaker 3: If I were to guess.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the heated back and forth in

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Speaker 2: just a second. How did you get there?

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Speaker 4: Oh, we were just we were just getting kidding, like

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Speaker 4: getting food. I picked her up and we went and

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Speaker 4: uh yeah, just got some food and drinks and it

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Speaker 3: So what was the heated debate about then?

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Speaker 5: So we were going through uh we were talking about.

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Speaker 4: My dating profile and stuff, and she kept just being like, uh, so,

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Speaker 4: what's your real hight or or so what's your real job?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you It's right here, like

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Speaker 3: I already said it.

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Speaker 4: Oh believe me? Uh or it seems like she didn't

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Speaker 4: believe me, and so it just got kind of back

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Speaker 4: and forth. But once I cleared it up, I feel

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Speaker 4: like everything for the rest of the night was good

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Speaker 4: and we had fun.

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Speaker 3: Was she joking or she actually legit didn't believe it?

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Speaker 3: It seemed like she she didn't believe me.

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Speaker 1: If she didn't believe you, that that wasn't a you problem,

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Speaker 1: Like I think that that would just mean that she'd

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Speaker 1: been lied to and those apps had been leading her

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Speaker 1: astray many times before you. So you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: it would depend on how you responded to that. So

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Speaker 1: you yelled back or what did.

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Speaker 4: That sound like, yeah, No, I don't think I wasn't

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Speaker 4: trying to uh. I wasn't yelling back or anything. But

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Speaker 4: I think after the second time, I'm kind of like, so,

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Speaker 4: what's your real I was kind of like, well, this

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Speaker 4: is my real chop like these are this is what

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Speaker 4: I did. That was I'm not lying. I might have

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Speaker 4: sounded a little more in chence. So that's why I

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Speaker 4: think it wasn't really an argument. It was just kind

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Speaker 4: of like a heated thing from for a second.

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Speaker 3: I mean, can I ask was there like your height?

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Speaker 3: Exact height? So guys lie about their height.

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Speaker 5: To ask it's there.

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Speaker 3: I don't do that.

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Speaker 5: I put it.

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Speaker 4: I put my real height on there, and I put

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Speaker 4: my job on there.

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Speaker 1: That's cool that you're out here telling the truth. I

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Speaker 1: think that that's understandable. And it well not understandable, but

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Speaker 1: you know, we respect that.

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Speaker 3: Are you a shorter dude, I'm I'm six foot flat. Oh.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it was the height. I don't think

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Speaker 6: it was the height here. Was there anything else that

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Speaker 6: happened on the date that may have caused a little

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Speaker 6: bit of I want to say tension, but I was

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Speaker 6: gonna say friction. But usually friction could be a good thing.

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Speaker 1: On good words, she kind of asked for it, She

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Speaker 1: kind of walked right into friction. Maybe she's one of

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Speaker 1: those people that gets turned on by arguments. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know how some people are into that and they

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Speaker 1: like like a heated debate. So maybe if you engaged

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Speaker 1: for a minute and then diffused it, maybe she got bored.

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Speaker 1: That would be really sad and that would be a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe interesting. How did things end with you guys?

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Speaker 4: It was pretty good. We we hogged, We didn't kiss,

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Speaker 4: but uh, it wasn't It didn't feel like things were bad.

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Speaker 4: It felt like at that point the energy that kind

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Speaker 2: Did she say anything about future plans? Like you know,

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Speaker 2: when you guys parted ways?

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Speaker 4: I said, I'll text you and she said, all right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, well, and you've heard nothing in four day,

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Speaker 2: so will play us song come back and then call

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Speaker 2: her see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you another day.

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Speaker 3: To right awesome?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: All right, place on come.

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Speaker 2: Randon middle of today's first Date follow up. If you're

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Speaker 2: just joining us, Thomas is on the phone and Thomas

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Speaker 2: is getting ghosted by Sophie. So we're about to call

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Speaker 2: her right now and see if she'll tell us why

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Speaker 2: she's ghosting and maybe get him another date. But before

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Speaker 2: we do that, Thomas, why don't you catch everybody up

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Speaker 2: on your date with Sophie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, Sophie and I met on one of the dating apps.

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Speaker 4: We ended up going out for drinks and appetizers. It

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Speaker 4: was a pretty good time overall. At the beginning, we

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Speaker 4: were going over my dating profile and she was pointing

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Speaker 4: out some like things that she thought were maybe I

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Speaker 4: was lying about but I wasn't, and so they got

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Speaker 4: after that it was all right. But I haven't heard

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Speaker 4: with her and have another date.

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Speaker 3: All right, were you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Huh, I may speak to Sophie. Please speaking Sophie, Hi,

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Speaker 2: how are you? My name is Jewbell, and I host

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Speaker 2: a radio show. It's called The Jewbell Show.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Sophie. I'm Nina also on the show, Hi, and I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 3: So they on the phone with you. How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm good, there's so many of you. What's well.

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Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show it's called the

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Speaker 2: first Day follow Up. So that's where if you go

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Speaker 2: out on a date with somebody and then you end

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Speaker 2: up ghosting them, that person can have us get you

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Speaker 2: on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. So

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Speaker 2: you're currently actively ghosting somebody I think, okay, and his

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Speaker 2: name is Thomas okay, okay, and you went out with

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Speaker 2: him a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, it was like like four or five days

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he says you haven't talked to him since

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Speaker 2: you guys have gone out, so we're wondering if you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm going I'm just like really awkward

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Speaker 5: about sending the text. It's like I'm not interested, So

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Speaker 5: it is avoid doing that. On our date, he like

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Speaker 5: we got into like a fight, and I just feel

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Speaker 5: like if you get into like a fight on your

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Speaker 3: What was the fight about?

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Speaker 5: It? Was just like a couple of things, Like he

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Speaker 5: that was weird, and he got really like defensive about it.

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Speaker 5: And then I was like asking him about his job,

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Speaker 5: but he just like kept deflecting and like not answering

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Speaker 3: It wasn't playful, not for me, Like I.

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Speaker 5: Was getna like he thought he seemed to think it

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Speaker 5: like I don't like having people like kind of lie

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Speaker 5: I was sketched out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well because like before we had just been like

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Speaker 3: So what made you feel like he was lying about

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Speaker 5: I don't know, Like well, like just what the job saying.

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Speaker 5: It's like I don't know what answering your question with

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Speaker 3: So because I felt like he wasn't truthful with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he definitely. I would be literally shocked

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, well let's ask him because now I have

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Speaker 2: to be truthful. Sophie Thomas is on the other line

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Speaker 4: Hey, Sophie.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it's really awkward.

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Speaker 4: I know. I just hold on because I feel like

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Speaker 4: maybe I wasn't clear at dinner and stuff. I was

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Speaker 5: First of all, Sorry, if I said all that stuff

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Speaker 5: about you, it seems like you were lying and it's weird.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, I was like, oh, great, like good,

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Speaker 4: don't know, I felt like that was a good way

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Speaker 5: I wasn't lacking here, we don't.

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Speaker 4: I just want I just feel like I'm feel stuck

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Speaker 3: Well, what do you consult on?

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Speaker 5: I mean, just.

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Speaker 4: Various businesses hire me?

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Speaker 3: Okay that you guys, come on, that's like, what is that? Okay,

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Speaker 3: so that's cool. So what did you consult on your

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Speaker 4: It was it was a it was a construction business.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, would you consult with them? Like with that,

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Speaker 2: what do you do specializing in construction.

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Speaker 4: Just sort of coding and just general like permit stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean it's like you didn't really answer anything

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Speaker 5: about anything. So it's like, what project are you working

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Speaker 5: on right now?

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Speaker 3: Right now? I'm in between projects?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So what was your last project? The one that

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Speaker 5: just finished?

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Speaker 4: It was it was for an updating like a subway station?

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Speaker 3: What I mean, people really do this?

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Speaker 5: Does this sound like that's true?

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Speaker 2: Like I can I can see Sophie's side on this, Thomas.

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Speaker 2: You're not giving enough detail to make could sound convincing.

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Speaker 4: Really, I was just gonna I mean, the truth is

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Speaker 4: I work for what was my dad's company, and I

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Speaker 4: still you know, I've taken over a lot of responsibility.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like maybe that's that's something I've been

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Speaker 4: hesitant to say because it's not like I built it myself.

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Speaker 3: I think that's where also, maybe there doesn't need to

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Speaker 3: be that much pressure on your job on a first date.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, trying, Okay, So all really what about the height?

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Speaker 5: Like how tall are you actually?

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Speaker 4: When I go to the doctor, they say I'm six

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Speaker 4: foot flat?

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Speaker 5: Are you paying? Hey? If you want to go on

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Speaker 5: another date? You could measure me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, Sophie. Would you like to go

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Speaker 2: on another date with Thomas? We'll pay for it, then

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Speaker 2: you can measure him. No, I don't want to measure him.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to do that. Okay, No, there's absolutely

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Speaker 5: no way.

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Speaker 3: They don't sound that compatible. To be honest, we're not. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being honest.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for thanking me well it's your lost.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could have measured me in more ways than one.

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Speaker 2: Oh Juble's first day follow up