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Speaker 1: the timeline of law enforcement response to the Uvalde, Texas
Speaker 1: school shooting, where nineteen children and two teachers were killed.
Speaker 1: New harrowing videos emerged on social media showing angry, desperate
Speaker 1: parents outside the school pleading with police to go inside.
Speaker 1: It's time. This is all the linen buck Sexton. It
Speaker 1: was a horrifying scene, as you could see for yourself.
Speaker 1: There a difficult video to watch, to be sure. And
Speaker 1: now we're hearing from law enforcement about just how this
Speaker 1: awful scenario unfolded. It was a very difficult situation on
Speaker 1: the ground for law enforcement when those videos were taken
Speaker 1: and when officers were setting up a cordon around the building.
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers are still investigating the timeline of law enforcement events,
Speaker 1: and so there's more detail that will be coming out
Speaker 1: of the days ahead. But here's what we know. The
Speaker 1: shooter in this case was not, in fact confronted by
Speaker 1: anybody before he walked into the school. There had initially
Speaker 1: been reports that a school safety officer this is widely
Speaker 1: reported in the media had confronted the shooter, which didn't
Speaker 1: seem to add up because there was no exchange of
Speaker 1: gunfire initially between law enforcement and the shooter when he
Speaker 1: made his way into the building. Turns out that that
Speaker 1: that reporting was inaccurate. Earlier today, Texas law enforcement authorities
Speaker 1: held the press conference and said the shooter was not
Speaker 1: confronted by anybody. This is a key detail, latch he
Speaker 1: walked in understructed initially, so from the grandmother's house to
Speaker 1: the barbage to the school, into the school, he was
Speaker 1: not confronted by anybody. To clear the record on that.
Speaker 1: Four minutes later law enforcement coming in to solve this problem.
Speaker 1: So the shooter was able to get into the building
Speaker 1: without anyone confronting him on his way. There were apparently
Speaker 1: no security locks or other physical barriers to entry for
Speaker 1: the shooters able to get right into the building, get
Speaker 1: right into the classroom where he engaged in his mass murders.
Speaker 1: And here there is the shooter, of course, deceased, killed
Speaker 1: by bor Tech, which is a border patrol effectively border
Speaker 1: patrol squad team. Here's what everyone needs to know. How
Speaker 1: is it possible? How is it tactically sound. How is
Speaker 1: it part of the procedure for law enforcement to be
Speaker 1: on the scene of a mass shooting of children four
Speaker 1: minutes into the shooting, and then for it to take
Speaker 1: over an hour while there's gunfire happening from inside this building.
Speaker 1: He was shooting at law enforcement officers at various points
Speaker 1: in this standoff. Took them over an hour while they
Speaker 1: had a hundred officers, over a hundred officers gathered on
Speaker 1: the scene over an hour, or anyone to go in
Speaker 1: there and eliminate the threat to kill this evil mass murderer.
Speaker 1: People are asking questions about this because there are parents
Speaker 1: on the outside of the cordon, the law enforcement cordon,
Speaker 1: who are begging police, these are armed law enforcement officers,
Speaker 1: to go do something about the shooter who was barricaded
Speaker 1: inside one of these classrooms and engaged in the murder
Speaker 1: of defenseless small children. It took over an hour. There
Speaker 1: was discussion during that press conference as well earlier today
Speaker 1: of some kind of Hasha's negotiation effort, which doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to make any sense considering that this was a mass
Speaker 1: murder spree. This individual had not, to our knowledge at
Speaker 1: this point, taken any hostages he did not have a
Speaker 1: list of demands, so what were they waiting for? This
Speaker 1: is what people are asking. If we're going to have
Speaker 1: conversations about how to stop these kinds of atrocities from
Speaker 1: happening again in the future, we have to be very
Speaker 1: honest about what went wrong here and what actually occurred
Speaker 1: from a law enforcement perspective, because it seems right now
Speaker 1: to many many observers, including former SWAT team and special
Speaker 1: operations and other elements of the law enforcement, a military
Speaker 1: community that I've spoken to, say, this response time of
Speaker 1: over an hour to eliminate the threat is far too
Speaker 1: long given the concentration of law enforcement on the scene
Speaker 1: against a loan government. Now, this also is something that
Speaker 1: the FBI is looking at, and there'll be a lot
Speaker 1: of law enforcement after action assessment of what went on here.
Speaker 1: Here's the FBI director testifying on the shooting and saying
Speaker 1: that you've all day is the latest example of the
Speaker 1: continued threat from lone wolf actors. Watch the threat of
Speaker 1: loan actors who look to attack regular, everyday people going
Speaker 1: about their regular everyday lives. And in fact it's that
Speaker 1: threat that we continue to be most concerned about here
Speaker 1: in the homeland. This is a continuing challenge we have,
Speaker 1: and there are real discussions that are necessary about what
Speaker 1: causes these individuals to snap in the way. This wasn't
Speaker 1: something that we've had all throughout history. This does seem
Speaker 1: to have become a more common, more common problem for
Speaker 1: our society over the last thirty or so years, and
Speaker 1: is mental health and the way we deal with mental
Speaker 1: health a major component of how we could try to
Speaker 1: limit these incidents going forward. We may not be able
Speaker 1: to stop them all, but to be able to bring
Speaker 1: down the numbers to make it a less common scenario
Speaker 1: that would certainly be a worthy goal. Lash a journal
Speaker 1: editorial board wrote this about this issue of how to
Speaker 1: look at this a teenager. That a teenager can look
Speaker 1: at a nine year old, they'm a gun and pull
Speaker 1: the trigger signal some larger social and cultural breakdown. It
Speaker 1: also suggests that society may have to adapt by rethinking
Speaker 1: our hands off attitudes to antisocial behavior and mental illness. Essentially,
Speaker 1: there may have to be a more proactive societal and
Speaker 1: perhaps yes even governmental and law enforcement component of dealing
Speaker 1: with severe and dangerous mental illness. That's certainly a part
Speaker 1: of the discussion right now. But then you also have
Speaker 1: the mother of the shooter here saying that her son
Speaker 1: wasn't a violent person in advance of this. This was
Speaker 1: a quote from the last forty eight hours. My son
Speaker 1: wasn't a violent person. I'm surprised by what he did.
Speaker 1: I had a good relationship with him. He kept to himself,
Speaker 1: he didn't have many friends. So was it possible to
Speaker 1: foresee in advance that this individual was a true danger
Speaker 1: to society? Or is that an impossibility to be able
Speaker 1: to identify this? We need to bring in real, in
Speaker 1: depth research about this, mental health professionals who have dealt
Speaker 1: with these kinds of situations to establish some protocols. This
Speaker 1: is a complex problem set. There's no easy solution to
Speaker 1: preventing these things from happening going forward. That's the honest truth.
Speaker 1: But for Democrats like Chuck Schumer, unfortunately, the most important
Speaker 1: thing to them when they're speaking out against this is
Speaker 1: that they are able to shout at their political enemies
Speaker 1: and make it seem like we don't all believe that
Speaker 1: mass shootings like this are horrific and atrocious. A cheap
Speaker 1: shot from Chuck Schumer here at the Governor of Texas,
Speaker 1: Greg Abbott was, of course, the Republican Watch. After Betawa
Speaker 1: Roar confronted Texas Governor Abbott's press conference, the MAGA governor
Speaker 1: gave some empty platitudes about healing and hope. He asked
Speaker 1: people to put their agendas aside and think about someone
Speaker 1: other than themselves. My god, how dare he? What an
Speaker 1: absolute fraud the governor of Texas is and Chuck Schumer
Speaker 1: I would say, as a fraud, but he's such a
Speaker 1: disgrace that we expect him to be fraud and that
Speaker 1: is the reality we are facing alright. Former MFPD cop
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Speaker 1: calling for tougher gun control laws in the wake of
Speaker 1: the Texas school shooting, President Biden talked about the constitution yesterday.
Speaker 1: Watch this second nam is not absolute when it was passed.
Speaker 1: You couldn't own a you couldn't own a cannon, you
Speaker 1: couldn't own certain kinds of weapons. It's just always been limitations.
Speaker 1: You actually could own a canon. But anyway, joining me
Speaker 1: here with the reaction, as former NYPD officer and conserv
Speaker 1: commentator John Cardillo, John Biden is not smart really as
Speaker 1: a politician. He's certainly not smart as a constitutional scholar
Speaker 1: or lawyer. And the immediate fall back to talking points
Speaker 1: about gun control that we've been hearing for decades and
Speaker 1: that every time they get their way, it doesn't actually
Speaker 1: do anything. It's just dishardening at some level. This this
Speaker 1: is really, this is the best we've got. This is
Speaker 1: the president. Yeah, I mean, you know, his flat outline
Speaker 1: and his handlers, I say his handlers is in my opinion,
Speaker 1: he's cognitively shot and the guys that incapacitated vegetable. Historically speaking,
Speaker 1: the ignorance coming from the President of the United States
Speaker 1: is in itself disqualifying. Right. Historically speaking, most cannons used
Speaker 1: in the Revolutionary War were either previously or currently at
Speaker 1: the time, privately owned people brought them into service, whether
Speaker 1: they were wealth being landowners or business owners who use
Speaker 1: them for protection. So we can get into the weeds
Speaker 1: all day about Biden's misstatements or as we'll call them,
Speaker 1: flat outlies. I think it's tragic that they use the
Speaker 1: deaths of nineteen innocent babies. These were elementary school age children.
Speaker 1: And as a former cop, I had responded to murdered
Speaker 1: children twenty five, twenty eight years later, Buck, the memory
Speaker 1: is as vivid as it was day one. I spoke
Speaker 1: the troopers who respond to Connecticut troopers who respond to
Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook, they'll never get that imagery out of
Speaker 1: their heads. So the way the Democrats have been using
Speaker 1: this for political points, chief political points, Obama invoking George Floyd,
Speaker 1: a bentonel addict who was passing counterfeit bills and equating
Speaker 1: them to murdered babies, and they're heroic teachers through their
Speaker 1: bodies between the kids and the gunmen. It's really disgraceful.
Speaker 1: Don't even get started on beatawe' rourke. Disgraceful on the
Speaker 1: part of Democrats. Well here for example, as Chuck Schumer
Speaker 1: or set a majority leader for now slamming Governor Abbott
Speaker 1: and everybody who supports Trump and maga Republicans because you
Speaker 1: know you have to do gun control watch and these families,
Speaker 1: my colleagues, don't want thoughts and prayers. They want their
Speaker 1: elected leaders to respond to their suffering. They want results.
Speaker 1: Yet the Magarepublicans don't want to get to results. They're
Speaker 1: ossified in their opposition to any action on gun safety,
Speaker 1: Governor Abbott, will you ask your magabuddies and your NRA
Speaker 1: pals to put aside their agendas and think of someone
Speaker 1: other than themselves. Will you ask the gun manufacturing reps
Speaker 1: who are swarm over the NRA convention to put aside
Speaker 1: their agendas and think about someone other than themselves. Of course,
Speaker 1: not no amount of bloodshed seems to be enough for
Speaker 1: MAGA Republicans. I mean, there's so much there that's just
Speaker 1: just in ray. Honestly, yes, Republicans don't care about dead children.
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, I mean, this is essentially what he's saying.
Speaker 1: It's outrageous. But beyond that, there's always John this effort
Speaker 1: to you're very familiar with the gun industry, farms industry,
Speaker 1: to make it seem like there's some shadowy cabal of
Speaker 1: NRA and lobbyists that stop the problem with a gun
Speaker 1: legislation is actually there are tens of millions of gun
Speaker 1: owners who don't want it and know that it won't help. Look,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's we have to be factual
Speaker 1: ear book. And it pains me to think about nineteen
Speaker 1: grieving families. We found out the husband of one of
Speaker 1: the teachers who took bullets for the kids and died
Speaker 1: died of a heart attack today, presumably from the stress
Speaker 1: from a broken heart. Name is a tragedy all around.
Speaker 1: But you do not impose draconian, anti constitutional regulation or
Speaker 1: legislation on three hundred and thirty million Americans because one
Speaker 1: bad guy did something bad. And I'll take it a
Speaker 1: step further. I'd put a tweet out the other day,
Speaker 1: Chuck Chumer. I'm gonna say it. Here is a disgusting, vile,
Speaker 1: disingenuous wrote it. And here's why. If we were to
Speaker 1: put there are one hundred and thirty one thousand, K
Speaker 1: through twelve schools in the United States, if the federal
Speaker 1: government of Congress appropriated a quarter million dollars to every
Speaker 1: school for either armed police, signal access points, forty five
Speaker 1: physical plants, what have you? If they appropriated a quarter
Speaker 1: million bucks to every school. That would be thirty two
Speaker 1: point seventy five billion dollars to protect America's youngest school children.
Speaker 1: They won't do it. They won't even have the debate.
Speaker 1: Democrats refuse to have the debate because Randy Weingarten and
Speaker 1: the teachers union won't let them have the debate. Yet,
Speaker 1: they gave forty billions to the Lensky in Ukraine, who
Speaker 1: to me is another oligarch mob oligarch, mob boss. It's
Speaker 1: the bloods and the crypt the Lensky versus prudent. They'll
Speaker 1: give him forty billion in two days, but they won't
Speaker 1: give seven and a half billion less the Fortify and
Speaker 1: Safeguard one hundred and thirty one kick through twelve schools
Speaker 1: in the US. Chuck Schumer is a disingenuous, disgraceful liar.
Speaker 1: John I. I do also want to ask you about,
Speaker 1: as somebody who carried a badge and a gun for years,
Speaker 1: the NYPD, the law enforcement response here at the shooting specifically,
Speaker 1: we heard now we've got a pretty good sense of
Speaker 1: the timeline. They had cops on the scene within four minutes.
Speaker 1: The cops knew that this was an active shooter situation.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of a lot of rifle fire
Speaker 1: from the shooter, and then nobody went in for a
Speaker 1: second breach after a first attempt that was pushed back
Speaker 1: essentially by the shooter. Yeah, nobody went back in for
Speaker 1: an hour, and there were parents who are around the cordon,
Speaker 1: the police cordon, begging law enforcement to go in and
Speaker 1: do something. I think it's really hard people to hear
Speaker 1: John that for an hour this ship he was firing
Speaker 1: rounds too. He'd already murdered a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of kids, and he was firing off rounds during the
Speaker 1: standoff period one hundred officers. Nobody goes in there until
Speaker 1: the board tach team from Border Patrol comes in. What
Speaker 1: do you think of this? So much to unpack here, Buck,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. And you and I,
Speaker 1: I mean, we talk a lot offline, right, We're shooters,
Speaker 1: were collectors. We enjoy this. I'll be on radio with
Speaker 1: our good mutual friend Jesse Kelly later. He and I
Speaker 1: spoke earlier, so I'll tell you what I told him.
Speaker 1: So many conflicting reports. But even if we act, even
Speaker 1: if right now here we analyze the timeline most favorable
Speaker 1: to local law enforcement, it appears with all the evidence
Speaker 1: we have right now, that there was a thirteen minute
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes. Yeah, between the bad guy I want to
Speaker 1: say his name, going into that classroom, beginning to floater
Speaker 1: kids like fishing and barrel and police entering behind board tack.
Speaker 1: Important to note buck for off duty board tax operators,
Speaker 1: Border patrol tactical team, off duty, so they got to
Speaker 1: alert on their cell phones. They raced to the scene,
Speaker 1: off duty on duty cops. We best case for the cops.
Speaker 1: If I'm going to be as generous as humanly possible,
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes might as well have been the thirteen hours
Speaker 1: that ben Dhazi. Thirteen minutes is an eternity. It was disgraceful,
Speaker 1: and it tells me that this agency local and County
Speaker 1: doesn't train, doesn't train on actor shooter, doesn't train under
Speaker 1: high stress. Thank god you off duty board tech guys
Speaker 1: where they're and not deployed sixty seventy miles away, because
Speaker 1: god knows how many more innocence would have been killed.
Speaker 1: This is a black eye from the evidence we have
Speaker 1: in front of us on local and county law enforcement. Yeah, John,
Speaker 1: it just seems remarkable to me that you could have
Speaker 1: a number of law enforce and armed law enforcement officers,
Speaker 1: including with long guns, on the scene. You've got one
Speaker 1: eighteen year old shooter with with you know, he has
Speaker 1: body armor on, but he has no real tactical training
Speaker 1: or proficiency. Obviously, he's murdering unarmed, small school children and
Speaker 1: they get pushed back in the initial assault, and then
Speaker 1: that's it for an hour, you know. But let me
Speaker 1: tell you this. I had spoken to a bunch of
Speaker 1: buddies from MPD today, some of the task forces I
Speaker 1: was on, and I got to know you very well.
Speaker 1: You're a very good personal friend, full disclosure, you were
Speaker 1: a CIA. I'm gonna go on a limb here. I
Speaker 1: know me and none of the guys I worked with,
Speaker 1: and I know you, I know your brothers. I don't
Speaker 1: think you your brothers, your buddies from the agency, any
Speaker 1: of us would have sat outside that school. I would
Speaker 1: have taken a suspension. I would have taken a termination.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something, it would have been a
Speaker 1: hell of alood easier to look in the mirror as
Speaker 1: a fired cup than it would have been to go
Speaker 1: home knowing I had my gun, I had my training,
Speaker 1: and I let nineteen kids and two teachers be slaughtered.
Speaker 1: It is making me sick to my stomach. That's hyperbole,
Speaker 1: that's not drama. I'm sick to my stomach, John, I
Speaker 1: mean I feel exactly the same way. I appreciate getting
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to you, somebody who's actually carried
Speaker 1: the badge and the gun and bid in these kinds
Speaker 1: of situations. Thanks for being with us, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Always about Thanks. All right? Coming up, our next guest
Speaker 1: says the Pennsylvania primary electrotion results prove Republicans still want
Speaker 1: America First. We got the President of Citizens United, David Bossi,
Speaker 1: with us to discuss that. Coming up, Pennsylvania Senate primary
Speaker 1: is going into a recount right now. As it stands,
Speaker 1: the race between Oz and McCormick is too close to call.
Speaker 1: Recount schedule to begin tomorrow, but we may not have
Speaker 1: final answers until June seventh. According to an article from
Speaker 1: the Hill, McCormick's campaign is suing to have counted ballots
Speaker 1: that were mailed in without a written date on the envelopes,
Speaker 1: as it's typically required, but that we're received on or
Speaker 1: before election day. Oz is arguing for the ballots to
Speaker 1: be rejected. And is getting back up from the state.
Speaker 1: GOP and the Republican National Committee joined me now to
Speaker 1: discuss the state of Pennsylvania and more. Is President of
Speaker 1: Citizens United, David BOSSI, David, thanks for being with us, Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me back. Appreciate it. David, what do
Speaker 1: you make of the situation in Pennsylvania right now? At
Speaker 1: last I saw, I think it was about a thousand
Speaker 1: votes separating these two Senate contenders on the GOP side,
Speaker 1: It is incredibly close. What we've seen in primary after
Speaker 1: primary buck is high Republican intensity. We are seeing folks
Speaker 1: who want to reject completely and totally Joe Biden's America
Speaker 1: and the disaster that is the Biden administration. And we're
Speaker 1: seeing Republicans turn out in record number all over the
Speaker 1: country and Pennsylvania is no exception. In a recent op
Speaker 1: Edie wrote for Fox News that Pennsylvania proves Republicans still
Speaker 1: want America First. Friends that continued last night across the
Speaker 1: country or crystal clear, voters know the President Trump's America
Speaker 1: First agenda is the right one for our country. They
Speaker 1: want maga anti establishment political outsiders to represent them in
Speaker 1: elected office. And I look, I've spoken to McCormick a
Speaker 1: number of times in interviews, and yeah, he says he's
Speaker 1: a Maga guy too. So is it really just about
Speaker 1: the president's endorsement? Yeah, Buck. Every one of the candidates
Speaker 1: that was running in the United States Senate race in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: and then most of these primaries are all America First
Speaker 1: Candidate to one extent or the other. There's nobody that
Speaker 1: really rejects. I mean even Brian Kemp, who didn't, who
Speaker 1: has been fighting with obviously President Trump and President Trump
Speaker 1: did not support, is still an America First candidate in
Speaker 1: a sense. So the issues are Republican issues. The issues
Speaker 1: are conservative issues that we are able to run on.
Speaker 1: Which which are and every state has a different level
Speaker 1: of interest in them, But it's everybody wants lower crime
Speaker 1: rates and the violent crime scourge. That's and funding of
Speaker 1: police as opposed to defunding. Everybody's worried about the border,
Speaker 1: border security, the drugs and human trafficking that are pouring
Speaker 1: across our borders. Everybody's worried about our national security, what's
Speaker 1: going on in Afghanistan and the Ukraine. All around the world.
Speaker 1: We have problems, and we have feckless leadership at home.
Speaker 1: And that's what the America First Agenda is. It's not
Speaker 1: about one person. All of these Canada almost across the
Speaker 1: board are for it in one way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Standard Hopeful Amendment. OZ had some kind word for
Speaker 1: a former President Trump. Watch this President Trump, after he
Speaker 1: endorsed me continue to lead into this race in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: He knows all the subtleties of it. He was willing
Speaker 1: to participate with teletown Halls, which he advised that I
Speaker 1: do was a brilliant idea. Participated in a massive rally
Speaker 1: out in Westmorland County, and God bless you, sir for
Speaker 1: putting so much effort into this race. I will make
Speaker 1: you proud. How confident are you, David? I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: we don't know who's going to win, but Oz is
Speaker 1: ahead right now and certainly very possible that he will
Speaker 1: be the guy who ends up representing the GOP in
Speaker 1: the Senate race. A lot of people saying, is he
Speaker 1: really a conservative? What do you say? Well, I think
Speaker 1: he will be a great senator. I think David McCormick
Speaker 1: could be a great senator. I think that the issue
Speaker 1: before us is these mail in ballots that are not dated,
Speaker 1: and I think that the courts have ruled in the
Speaker 1: past that undated ballots should not be counted. And as
Speaker 1: far as the question of election integrity and integrity are concerned,
Speaker 1: I know that the RNC has taken the position that
Speaker 1: that those ballots should not be counted. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if you follow the rules, you know your
Speaker 1: ballot gets counted, and if you don't, that's the unfortunate
Speaker 1: circumstance you find yourself. And I believe there's a very
Speaker 1: few of those ballots. As they get through this recount,
Speaker 1: we're going to find out exactly how many there are,
Speaker 1: but it may not be enough to change the outcome.
Speaker 1: OZ is ahead by about a thousand votes, which is
Speaker 1: unbelievably closed in with so many votes cast over a million. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we had a very big week as well with the
Speaker 1: Georgia primary. Earlier on in the week, you had Marjorie
Speaker 1: Taylor Green winning her primary challenge, Hersha Walker winning convincingly
Speaker 1: on the Senate side, and the sitting governor Kemp defeating
Speaker 1: a challenge by Purdue, who obviously did have Trump's support
Speaker 1: in that primary. What do you make of of what
Speaker 1: we saw in Georgia? Well, it's interesting. You know, candidates matter,
Speaker 1: and good candidates matter, and you know we did. We
Speaker 1: had some weak candidates and even though even with the
Speaker 1: president support, you can't carry them over the line by yourself.
Speaker 1: If you're Donald Trump, you're not there in Georgia campaigning
Speaker 1: every day. You show up for a rally and you
Speaker 1: endorse them. But the candidates and their ideas and their
Speaker 1: campaigns matter. And I think that that's what the failure
Speaker 1: was predominantly, because you know, the people in Georgia agree
Speaker 1: with President Trump on the issues. They just didn't believe
Speaker 1: that Purdue was was a good vehicle for them. But
Speaker 1: if you look around the country, Sarah Sarah Huckabee Sanders wins,
Speaker 1: you know, a huge landslide for governor in Arkansas. Tim Griffin,
Speaker 1: endorsed by President Trump, wins for the attorney general's job
Speaker 1: in Arkansas. We have we had some great the President
Speaker 1: had some great victories. Obviously, Georgia was a tough, tough
Speaker 1: one to take a couple of losses in, but the
Speaker 1: President's record is steller and as endorsement matters, how do
Speaker 1: you think the GOP is looking to make a real
Speaker 1: run the table situation happened for the governor's race, though.
Speaker 1: The Senate seat that's up between Warnock and herschel Walker
Speaker 1: some really key contest there. Do you think we could
Speaker 1: pull it all off? Herschel Walker is incredibly strong. He
Speaker 1: is going to be run a very good, disciplined message
Speaker 1: campaign and has been doing so thus far. He's raising
Speaker 1: a ton of money and an exceptional candidate. And I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, I think herschel Walker definitely wins
Speaker 1: in November and we pick up one Senate seat there
Speaker 1: and get that one back into the Republican hands. But
Speaker 1: I also believe that Kemp will will defeat now Stacey Abrams.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have Stacey Abrams making one gaff after
Speaker 1: the other. Just a couple of days ago, she's saying
Speaker 1: that George is not a good place to live. Who
Speaker 1: says that about a state that they want to represent.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have We're gonna we're gonna run the
Speaker 1: tables this November in the general election because of the
Speaker 1: problems that Joe Biden has created. The Biden administration single
Speaker 1: handedly is driving people to turn out to vote for
Speaker 1: Republican candidates because they are sick and tired of the America.
Speaker 1: Last mentality of the Biden administration, American weakness and feckless leadership,
Speaker 1: you know, and if everything they touch, from the economy
Speaker 1: to social issues to foreign policy, we're in a disaster
Speaker 1: one that every day it gets worse and worse. And
Speaker 1: I think the American people are recognizing it. Monmouth Pole
Speaker 1: just last week, but seventy nine percent of the American
Speaker 1: people that's Republican, Republicans, Democrats, an independence, bold say America
Speaker 1: is on the wrong track. Seventy nine percent. Only seventeen
Speaker 1: percent said it was on the right track. This guy,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, is making Jimmy Carter look good. David, thanks
Speaker 1: for being appreciate it. Thanks buck appreciate it. Partman. Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman will not be taking the
Speaker 1: stand during the trial. With closing arguments scheduled for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll talk with real clear investigations Benjamin Winegarden about that
Speaker 1: when we returned. First, I want to talk about the
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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman learns this morning that
Speaker 1: as of now, he will not be testifying during the trial.
Speaker 1: Born to an article from Just the News, Durham has
Speaker 1: presented evidence that Sussman said he was coming to the
Speaker 1: FBI in September twenty sixteen as a concerned citizen, but
Speaker 1: that he was in fact working at the time on
Speaker 1: behalf of two clients. So will the absence of a
Speaker 1: Sussman questioning hurt or help cricket Hillary in the long run.
Speaker 1: Now to discussed the whole trial, Deputy editor at Real
Speaker 1: Clear Investigations, Benjamin Wyngarten, Ben, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1: Thanks back the man. First off, I mean is what
Speaker 1: is the trial so far? What are the biggest takeaways
Speaker 1: for you of this effort to get to the bottom
Speaker 1: of Sussman's role in the Russia collusion hoax. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at this in context
Speaker 1: of a broader question, which is what is Special Counsel
Speaker 1: Durham's ultimate desire here? Is he trying to make some
Speaker 1: kind of grand criminal conspiracy case that works from the
Speaker 1: bottom up on the outside in spanning all of Clinton world,
Speaker 1: at the Clinton campaign up to the highest ranks of
Speaker 1: the FBI and the DOJ. Or is he just trying
Speaker 1: to secure convictions of in this case, Hillary Clinton's campaign
Speaker 1: lawyer Michael Sussman, who was responsible, it appears, in part,
Speaker 1: for foisting the Trump organization Alpha Bank fraud on the
Speaker 1: American people, plus Igor Danchenko, who was basically the Steel
Speaker 1: Dossier's key researcher, is he just going for these relatively
Speaker 1: smaller fish and in some cases more technical grounds, or
Speaker 1: does he have a master plans. That's a big question,
Speaker 1: broad question with respect to Sussman itself. I think the
Speaker 1: big takeaways from this trial are, first of all, who
Speaker 1: isn't a confidential informant. One of the things we found
Speaker 1: here is that you have journalists who are confidential informants.
Speaker 1: Rodney Joffey, who was the other clients Usman was working
Speaker 1: for beyond the Clinton campaign when he took this Trump
Speaker 1: Alpha Bank dirt to the authorities, was also an informant.
Speaker 1: Another massive takeaway is that Robbie Mooch, hillary Clinton's campaign manager,
Speaker 1: testified that Hillary Clinton basically gave her blessing, gave the
Speaker 1: thumbs up for the campaign to go out and spread
Speaker 1: the Alpha Bank hoax, which they did to the authorities
Speaker 1: as well as the media, just as they did with
Speaker 1: the Steelo dossier in this sort of circular conspiratorial sort
Speaker 1: of way where they flooded the zone in the federal
Speaker 1: government with their garbage Trump Russia collusion narrative, and they
Speaker 1: also did so with the media and use the media
Speaker 1: to reinforce the government's efforts to then go after Trump.
Speaker 1: But the big question at the end of the day
Speaker 1: is will the government mal actors here also pay or
Speaker 1: is this just about a couple players in Clinton world.
Speaker 1: So Robbie Mook said that he discussed it with Hillary.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the substance of the conversation, but notionally
Speaker 1: the discussion was, Hey, we have this and we want
Speaker 1: to share it with the reporter. She agreed. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: just this is from the campaign manager of the Clinton
Speaker 1: campaign saying, yeah, Hillary was like share the stuff. Hillary
Speaker 1: was like share of the stuff. And then let's also
Speaker 1: note that her former senior foreign policy advisor but now
Speaker 1: the National Security Advisor to the United States, Jake Sullivan,
Speaker 1: put out a press release citing a report from Slait, which,
Speaker 1: of course Fusion GPS on behalf of the Clinton campaign
Speaker 1: had fed to slit spewing the Russian Alpha Bank hoax,
Speaker 1: and then Hillary Clinton herself retweeted that with a comment
Speaker 1: on October thirty one, twenty sixteen. So the ultimate October
Speaker 1: surprise garbage. They fed to the authorities as well as
Speaker 1: to the likes of Swait, and then they spun it
Speaker 1: out there, making it seem as if independent actors were
Speaker 1: finding all of this Trump Russia dirt. So there's her
Speaker 1: fingerprints are all over this effort, and they perpetrated a
Speaker 1: fraud on the government. But at the same time, are
Speaker 1: we really to believe that the government behind the DOJ
Speaker 1: were duped? And one of the things we found out
Speaker 1: in this case is that people within the FBI rank
Speaker 1: and file agents examined what was brought to them and
Speaker 1: said this is garbage. They knew it almost immediately. Yet
Speaker 1: they got pressure, according to a testimony from at least
Speaker 1: one of those in court who said that they got
Speaker 1: pressure from the seventh floor, that is, the senior ranks
Speaker 1: of the FBI, to pursue this, to pursue it deathly seriously.
Speaker 1: And that is incredibly telling here. And the question is
Speaker 1: is Suliman is going to make it rather as dirm,
Speaker 1: going to make the case that the government was innocently
Speaker 1: duped and defrauded by the Clinton campaign or were they
Speaker 1: co conspirators? Will have to say. Here's from the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal. The Clinton campaign created the Trump Alpha allegation,
Speaker 1: fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm
Speaker 1: the allegations. We ran with them anyway, promoted the story
Speaker 1: as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered
Speaker 1: the claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to
Speaker 1: portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true. And this
Speaker 1: is I think a critical component of this ben that
Speaker 1: a political campaign that not only of course they're going
Speaker 1: to feed their smears to the press, the press didn't
Speaker 1: really do their job. Not only that, but then on
Speaker 1: the other side, also feeds it to federal law enforcement
Speaker 1: and intelligence agencies. And then the press says, oh, look,
Speaker 1: the law enforcement agencies are on this. The law enforcement
Speaker 1: agencies say, look, the press is reporting on this, and
Speaker 1: it's all treated like it's real. And we've seen this
Speaker 1: template before and other aspects of the Russian collusion hoax.
Speaker 1: With respect to the fraud that was perpetrated on the
Speaker 1: FISA court violating our most basic civil liberty is in
Speaker 1: the case of carter Page and others, it would appear
Speaker 1: because you had members of the government citing media reports,
Speaker 1: the government had been fed this him information by outside
Speaker 1: actors which proved to be garbage, used to pursue carter
Speaker 1: Page several times and others, and spying the communications and
Speaker 1: hoover up the communications of probably hundreds of people ultimately,
Speaker 1: So this was just one aspect of it, but it's
Speaker 1: the perfect model. It's a template for what they did
Speaker 1: in a whole number of circumstances here we think we're
Speaker 1: going to get to any actual, any actual accountability here
Speaker 1: then for what went on when it comes to some
Speaker 1: of these characters. I mean, I've I spoke to Andy
Speaker 1: McCarthy of a National Review about this recently. He said
Speaker 1: that Sussman, Sussman, given the jury pool and DC and
Speaker 1: given the case so far, may walk. Yeah. As I
Speaker 1: detailed in this piece in Newsweek today, Sessman's going in
Speaker 1: front of a judge who himself said he might recuse
Speaker 1: himself if asked, because he was a professional acquaintance of Sessman,
Speaker 1: works with him the DOJ. His wife was a contributor
Speaker 1: to the twenty sixteen Quinton campaign. She actually has represented
Speaker 1: Lisa Page, who herself might be a target of Durham's investigation.
Speaker 1: And then, of course you have the jurors to your point,
Speaker 1: several of whom were Clinton campaign donors, their ardent leftists
Speaker 1: among them, one of them their daughter actually plays on
Speaker 1: the same crude team as Susmans. I mean, the swamp
Speaker 1: can't go any deeper here, and that of course calls
Speaker 1: into the question the legitimacy, the sanctity of the entire process.
Speaker 1: And you're going to have this with any person who
Speaker 1: is indicted in Washington, DC, because that's how deep the
Speaker 1: swamp's tentacles go. So whether it be justice, look on
Speaker 1: the merits, I think this case is pretty much a
Speaker 1: slam dunk. We'll see in the case of den Chanko
Speaker 1: it would also appear to be the same. But are
Speaker 1: we going to see, let's say they are convicted, are
Speaker 1: there other indictments under seal that we don't know about today?
Speaker 1: Or is this is this kind of the climax of it?
Speaker 1: And then Durma is supposed to write a report. What
Speaker 1: is that report going to detail He's detailed in these
Speaker 1: indictments the makings of a massive criminal conspiracy. We'll have
Speaker 1: to see, you know, we'll have to see if the
Speaker 1: question is answered of where's the beef? And in terms
Speaker 1: of the Durham report, when do you think that's gonna
Speaker 1: does anyone have any real sense of when that will
Speaker 1: probably come out? At this point? Well, Jonathan Turley has
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that this is a glacially slow exercise,
Speaker 1: and some of question what about the statute of limitations
Speaker 1: with certain individuals, because we're talking six years after the
Speaker 1: fact some of these revelations coming to the four, so
Speaker 1: we don't have a date on it. We do know
Speaker 1: that Durham's funding was extended by Merrick Garland's Justice department,
Speaker 1: so at least for a number of more months. But
Speaker 1: at what point does the funding dry up and then
Speaker 1: whether it be a report done at that time we'll
Speaker 1: see if again there has to be an extension or
Speaker 1: if this is really it. We know the Denchenko case
Speaker 1: is coming later this year, so presumably subsequent to that
Speaker 1: we'll have some resolution on what the report is and
Speaker 1: when it's going to be released. Penn, thanks for being
Speaker 1: with us. Good to see you, Thanks for having me back.
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Speaker 1: start your morning. A CBS reporter who witnessed Beto O'Rourke's
Speaker 1: theatrical interruption of Governor Abbots as it was very clearly
Speaker 1: stage and former President Barack Obama used the Texas tragedy
Speaker 1: as a time to remind everybody with his Twitter account
Speaker 1: about the death of George Floyd. Yeah, it is time
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Speaker 1: global health policy. For some reason. It was on a
Speaker 1: panel at the annual Davos meeting, of course, and this
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Speaker 1: the idea of checking and people are vaccinated, you know
Speaker 1: if you have breakthrough infections, what's the point. The point
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Speaker 1: what we are up again, people that just want up
Speaker 1: for ten Like we're also dumb. We don't see what's
Speaker 1: going on. Then there was this Obama tweet which was
Speaker 1: honestly just jaw dropping. As we grieve the children of
Speaker 1: Uval Day today, we should take time to recognize that
Speaker 1: two years have passed since the murder of George Floyd
Speaker 1: under the knee of a police officer. His killing stays
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Speaker 1: George Floyd was a longtime criminal who had a violent
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Speaker 1: also a guy who had pointed a gun at the
Speaker 1: belly of a pregnant woman during a home invasion. And
Speaker 1: when there are nineteen children and still being buried during
Speaker 1: a mass shooting, Obama wants to remind us of George
Speaker 1: Floyd two years ago? Okay. And then there was the
Speaker 1: appalling spectacle yesterday of betto Or Rourke interrupting Governor Abbott
Speaker 1: in them, I mean in a way that was just
Speaker 1: so lacking in dignity and respect for the entire situation.
Speaker 1: But Betta Rourke is a pathetic, narcissistic weirdo. CBS reporters
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Speaker 1: they got up from their seats when Betto walked in,
Speaker 1: so they were seat holders for him. This seems something
Speaker 1: very clearly staged by Betto Rourke and his campaign. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: That's the only way this guy can getting attention is
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