1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing following the Ravens lopsided loss to 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs thirty seven to twenty. This was 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: a tough loss. The Ravens fall to one in three, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: and this was one of the more lopsided Ravens losses 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: in recent history. It's their biggest blowout since a forty 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: one to seventeen loss to the Bengals in twenty twenty one, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: the first time Lamar Jackson's lost by more than one 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: score since twenty twenty one. It's the first time they're 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: won in three since twenty fifteen. Not where you want 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: to be to begin this season, Garrett. We're gonna break 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: it all down for you and just kind of big picture. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Where do you feel like this team sits right now? 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this team is at a bit of a crossroads. 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: I think they are really in a difficult situation sitting 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: at one to three, and the way that today's game went, 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: I think was surprising to a lot of people. Just 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: everyone knows the Ravens lost a tough game on Monday 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Night Football to the Detroit Lions. Whether Lions really offensively, 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: were able to do what they wanted in that game, 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: and we're able to have a lot of success running 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: the ball and. 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: Just moved the football. 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: And so you felt like coming into this game in 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: a really important game for both teams, both the Ravens 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs came into this one at one and two. 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: The Ravens of the Chiefs have played plenty of big 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: games over the years, and they've all been tight. They've 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: all been games that often come down to the wire, 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: and it felt like this one would be in that arena. 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: To me, it felt like this was a game that like, hey, 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: the Ravens are their backs are against the wall, the 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: Chiefs backs are against the wall, and both these teams 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: are to come out and one of them is going 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: to be the victor, but it's going to be a 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: close game. And so to see it go in the 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: way that it did was surprising. Of course, injuries were 38 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: a massive piece of the equation. We're going to talk 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: through all of that, but just like big picture wise, 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: this was not the showing that I think a lot 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: of Ravens fans expected from this team, and they're now 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: at a really difficult spot where they're at one and three. 43 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: They're looking up at the Steelers in the af North standings, 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: but really beyond the standings, this is a team that 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: has a lot of things to fix, and they also 46 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: have a lot of injuries that have not piled up. 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean. John Harwall said he's concerned but not overwhelmed 48 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: by the one in three start, and was pretty frank 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: about the Ravens getting beat offensively, defensively, on special teams, 50 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: coaching players. They got beat across the board, and like 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: you said, these are two teams that have locked horns 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: and are two of the AFC's elite teams. Right now, 53 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens aren't in that conversation. They're not playing good football. 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: John Harwall said, We're just not a good football team. Yet. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: There's still a long way to go in this season, 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: and I do think that the Ravens are are going 57 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: to rebound and go on a little bit of a 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: run here at some point this season. We have to 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: get through these injuries. Lamar Jackson needs to be healthy 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: to be part of that, but I think that's around 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the corner. But right now, right now, this team just 62 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: needs to get a whole lot better both sides of 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: the ball. Specifically obviously defense. This isn't a Ravens defense 64 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: right now. It's not. It doesn't resemble any Ravens defense 65 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: in recent memory. I guess last season started out pretty 66 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: rough too. 67 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: It did it? Did you know? This one? 68 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: This one to me and like you look at it 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: in thirty seven points and the defense, I mean, by 70 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: the end of this thing, I know we're going to 71 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: talk to the specifics on the injuries that by the 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: end of this thing, it was a much different unit 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: on the field than we expected it. 74 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: It was a mass unit out there, it was. 75 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: But like the offense today, like this was not a 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: situation I think when you compare it to like the 77 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: Lions game where you look at it and you're like, 78 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: hey man, the offense is moving the ball, put up 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: a bunch of points. 80 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: Like the Ravens got beat on both sides of the football. 81 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: They put up twenty points, but the last Justice Hill 82 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: touchdown was in garbage time. Like, the Chiefs controlled this 83 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: game on both sides of the ball, and so the 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Ravens have plenty of things to figure out as they 85 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: look at this game, like, I don't think this is 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: a situation where it's just like all right, The defense 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: just needs to get better, you know. And I think 88 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: that there's everyone as they're looking through this game, is 89 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: I think taking a hard look at the mirror individually 90 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 2: where they can improve to try to get this thing 91 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: back on track. 92 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, honestly, you're in a big hole and it could 93 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: get worse before it gets better. Considering Lamar Jackson left 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury, and you look on the schedule 95 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: and oh, you've been through a really brutal four game gauntlet. 96 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: We still have the Texans and then the Rams, both 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: games in Baltimore, but those are two talented teams too, 98 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: And so you know, it's beyond Lamar, just the sheer 99 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: number of injuries. I feel like you want to run 100 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: through the list here. Sure, let's go through the list. 101 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: Ten Ravens starters currently dealing with injuries. Lamar Jackson with 102 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: his hamstring, Ronnie Stanley with an ankle. Ronnie did start 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: the game after one limited practice this week, but seemed 104 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: like he was in too much pain to continue left 105 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: early on. Was replaced by Joe Noteboom. Fullback Patrick Ricard 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: hasn't played all season. Defensive tackle Nondi Mattabike and Broderick 107 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: Washington both put on Ir Madabek with a neck injury, 108 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: Broderick with an ankle. Travis Jones, the third starting defensive lineman, 109 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: did not play because of a knee injury. He practiced 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: twice this week limited but was not able to play. 111 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: So the entire Ravens starting defensive line was out for 112 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: this game. Kyle van Noy missed his second straight game, 113 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: and then during the game defensively, Rokwan Smith left the 114 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: game with a hamstring injury, Marlon Humphrey left the game 115 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: with a calf calf, thank you, And Nate Wiggins left 116 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: with an elbow. So that's a lot of very good 117 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: players that were not on the field for the Ravens today. 118 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: Look, Marlon Humphrey, Roquan Smith, Nomine Matabik, I mean you 119 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: got like three hundred million dollars in player contracts and 120 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: those three guys right there, like those are those are 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: three stalwarts on this defense and so not having them 122 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: on the field like for the majority of this game 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: at a BIK not at all, Like that's significant. That 124 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: that's a that's a major blow. And I don't think 125 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: that that can like be overlooked as you're talking about 126 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: like what went wrong in this game, Like. 127 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: That is a real factor. But I also don't think that. 128 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: I this is a situation where you just are like, hey, 129 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: it's injuries, nothing you can do. I think that, like, 130 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: even before Roquan and Marlon went down, the Chiefs were 131 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: moving the football and putting up points. I mean, on 132 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: the play where Marlon got hurt, it was a touchdown 133 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: right between him and Roquan Smith. They too, they kind 134 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: of collided on that play. Then Marlin didn't come in 135 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: the rest of the game. So like, even when they 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: were on the field, the Chiefs were able to have success. 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't you oftentimes here with injuries, 138 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Well that's just an excuse. No, it actually matters, you know, 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: when you don't have very good players. But the fact 140 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: of the matter is this Ravens defense hasn't been good 141 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: enough all season. This makes it even harder. It made 142 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: it harder against the Chiefs, but the Ravens defense hasn't 143 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: been playing well all year long so far, and depending 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: on how long these guys are out, it makes the 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: job of digging out of this hole and fixing these 146 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: mistakes that much harder. We all say, coming into the year, 147 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: look This is maybe the most talented roster in the NFL, 148 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: maybe the deepest roster. When you get tested to this amount, 149 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: no team can withstand this, No team. I mean, the 150 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Ravens just signed Josh Tupa to their practice squad and 151 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: he was playing. I mean, cj Okoye played his first 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: NFL game ever after spending two years on the Chargers 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: practice squad. He's an international player from Nigeria, forcing the action. 154 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: And so no team can withstand this amount of injuries. 155 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: But nobody's crying for the Chiefs. Aren't crying for the Ravens. 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: They don't. They don't feel bad about it. Nobody's gonna 157 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: feel bad about it. You gotta play well despite it. 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: And the Ravens didn't. They did not play well despite 159 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: those injuries. 160 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that. Yeah, I mean 161 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: I agree with that. And and again, like some of 162 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: these injuries occurred during the game, uh specifically rokwond Marlin 163 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: and then Nate Wiggins late, but even before those guys 164 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: went down, the Chiefs were still able to move the 165 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: ball and like like moving forward as you as you 166 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: kind of roll this thing forward, Like we don't know, 167 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: just from an update standpoint, there were no updates after 168 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: the game from John Horrible about the severity of the injuries. 169 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: So we don't know when these guys are going to 170 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: be back on the field. 171 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: As you said, none of them were season ending, none 172 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: of them today. 173 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, but does that mean that Lamar Jackson's gonna play 174 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: next week? Does that mean Rookwan Sveeth's gonna play next week? Like, 175 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: it's hard, it's hard to know, And hamstring injuries can 176 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: be tricky, Calf injuries can be tricky, which is Marlin 177 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: what Marlin's dealing with. So like, we just don't know 178 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: when these guys are gonna be back on the field. 179 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: Not gonna speculate on that. But my point is if 180 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: for however long they're out, if they miss any time, 181 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: Like the game is gonna kick off at one o'clock 182 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: next week against the Texans, and the Texans aren't gonna 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: feel badly about the Ravens situation, and so they are 184 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: aware of that, Like they're just gonna they have to 185 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: figure out what they can do with the players who 186 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: they have in place to to to win games and 187 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: to piece it together even if the stars aren't on 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: the field. And that's like the tough reality that this 189 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: team is in right now. 190 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the tough reality is I said this 191 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: to a number of people coming into the year, I said, 192 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: as long as the Ravens stay healthy, they're gonna make 193 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: a serious run towards the super Bowl. Like that's how 194 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: good this I felt about this roster. And obviously they're 195 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: not healthy, so it's gonna be really really challenging from 196 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: this point on, depending on how long these guys are out. 197 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: But I'm also from what I've seen on the field 198 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: before these guys went down, like and in this game, 199 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: before they went down, they had a long way to 200 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: go just to improve as a team, to be honest, 201 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: And so I think that there's a lot of things 202 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: to clean up, and it's you know, whether it's small 203 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: things or big things or whatnot. You know, I know 204 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: that Kyle Hamilton said, you got to focus on the 205 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: little things, like he doesn't feel like they're playing that bad, 206 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: but the little things they're not doing right. Really, what 207 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: I see when I watch this game is I see 208 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: them this defense doesn't cause turnovers, they're not getting takeaways, 209 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: they're not putting pressure on quarterbacks, and they're not really 210 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: fooling people I mean, Patrick Mahomes threw four touchdown passes 211 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty twenty three, and he 212 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: did a lot of his damage on quick passes. That's 213 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: part of the reason why they're not affecting the quarterback 214 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: is because they're getting the ball out of their hands quickly. 215 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's because they're able to read 216 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: what the defense is bringing they're not, they're not disguising well, 217 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: or they're not challenging receivers enough to make it contested 218 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: quick throws. I'm not sure, but there's there's they need 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: answers for sure. Yeah. 220 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: And look the Chiefs, they're They've gone to two straight 221 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowls and Patrick Mahomes and they still got Patrick Mahomes, 222 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: Andy Reid, Travis Kelce. 223 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: They looked like the Chiefs that went to the Super Bowl. 224 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: They did not look like the Chiefs that had struggled 225 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: for their first three games. 226 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, A big, a big piece for them was getting 227 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy back into the equation. He made an impact today, 228 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: had five catches for eighty three yards, also had two 229 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: carries with thirty eight yards. He just kind of stretched 230 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: out the defense with his speed and and and his 231 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 2: impact was felt in this game, but like they just 232 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: they looked like the team that's been one of the 233 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: best offenses throughout Mahomes career. Like that's they were able 234 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: to move the ball that effectively, and they didn't punt 235 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: until late in the late in the game, really late 236 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: in the game. And so, you know, I don't think 237 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: it's all just a savior worthy thing getting him back 238 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: in the lineup. But I think that like they had, 239 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: they had a good strategy and approach coming into this game, 240 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: and they executed it really well. After the game, Hamilton, 241 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: you know, he did talk on podium, you know, and Hamilton, 242 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: I give him a lot of credit. 243 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: Like he's he's a leader of this team. 244 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: Signed the big contract before the season, and he's somebody 245 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: that a lot of guys look to on this team, 246 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: and he plays hard and he takes accountability, and so 247 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: I give him a lot of credit. And he did 248 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: talk with the media after the game, and here's what 249 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: he had to. 250 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: Say, apologize to the fans. Just the product that we're 251 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: putting on the field right now is not up to 252 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 4: par with what the Ravens have been in the past 253 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: and have been the recent past. And I think we 254 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: know that we're trying our best to correct it, but 255 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: obviously something's wrong, so it'spt all of us to try 256 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: to fix that. Also, I feel like earlier in the 257 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 4: week I used poor choice of words just saying that 258 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: Ravens fans were spoiled the track that I meant in 259 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 4: a sense that Raves fans have been accustomed to great defense, 260 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: great teams. Haven't been a lot of teams in Ravens 261 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: history since ninety six to have underachieved to the point 262 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: where fans felt disappointed in the season as a whole. 263 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: And I feel like as of right now in Week four, 264 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: obviously long way to go in this season, but you know, 265 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: we're disappointed. I'm sure the fans are disappointed too, So 266 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: we gotta get it fixed. We gotta put a product 267 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: and a team on the field that fans are proud 268 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: to say they root for, proud to say they spend 269 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: money on tickets to come to the games and all 270 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: that stuff and support us. On a brighter note, I 271 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: want to shout out to everybody who contributed today, specifically 272 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: on the defensive side. 273 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: C J. 274 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: Coya, I think it was his first game ever in NFL, 275 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: did a great job. Josh two po just signed here 276 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: this week, was playing for US. Brent Urban got elevateds 277 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 4: playing for US. Mike Green's rookie out there playing who 278 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: knows how many snaps. Tavius Robinson's third year guy, but 279 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: it seems like he's been here for ten years. Jake Commel, 280 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: Teddy Buchannan, TJ Tampa Malakai key On Martin, undrafted guy 281 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: makes the team. He's out there playing three quarters the 282 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: game against the three time Super Bowl champions in the 283 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: past hover of the year. So shout out to those 284 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: guys for what they did today. The whole game obviously 285 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: didn't go how we wanted it to, but I think 286 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: that's kind of a silver line to take from it. 287 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: You know, it's a top down in the organization. Guys 288 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: just working hard. So we gotta get a fix. We 289 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: know that we'll do it. 290 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: So look, you can hear in Kyle, like you know, 291 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: he understands the situation like not running from it, not 292 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: hiding from it, and knows that. 293 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: Like this group has to get better. 294 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: And as he as he talked about like there is 295 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: a standard that's in place, you know, and has been 296 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: for a long time, and he he knows that this 297 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: team needs to play better to get to that standard, 298 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: to get to the level that I think we all 299 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: felt like coming into the season that they were capable 300 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: of playing at. And now it's a matter of, you know, 301 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: dealing with the injuries, but even injuries aside just playing 302 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: at a higher level. 303 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can certainly look at it. 304 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: And when the Ravens schedule came out, you were like, 305 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: this is going to be a tough start, this is 306 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: this is challenging, right, I mean, like you said, let's 307 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: not forget that the Chiefs have been to how many 308 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowls in recent years? They were in last year's 309 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right, and you're in their place, a place 310 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: that the Ravens really have not They haven't won in 311 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson era. 312 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been since twenty twelve since the Ravens won 313 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: and aarrawhead exactly. 314 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, the Buffalo Bills on the road 315 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: week one, Right, you have a really really good Detroit 316 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Lions team come to your place. Like it's been it's 317 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: been tough, But we all thought coming into the year 318 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: that the Ravens were one of those teams, like they're 319 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: in that elite company and and specifically the past two weeks. 320 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, the Buffalo game, Ravens should have won that game, 321 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: but the past two losses to Detroit in this Kansas 322 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: City Chiefs team, really say and today injuries obviously a 323 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: major factor, Like they're they're not in that elite company 324 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: yet not this season. You know that you come into 325 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: it and you're like, you got to win some of 326 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: those games you lost all three? 327 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that that like, yes, you're you're you're one 328 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: hundred percent right, Like tough schedule to open the season. 329 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna overlook that, Like this is a tough sled. 330 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: And if if we if you go through and you 331 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: do the game at the beginning of the year, you 332 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: might be looking at that and saying, like, all right, 333 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: you might be you might be two and two. Like 334 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: if you're just looking at it objectively and like, hey, 335 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: if you split there, well, the Ravens are not one 336 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: to three. So even if you're looking at it and 337 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: you're saying, you know you might split, you might split 338 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: that first four. Now you still got to climb out 339 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: of that hole. But even that aside, like you just 340 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: need to to They're they're play the last two games 341 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: to me, really stand out because Detroit and Kansas City 342 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: just beat the Ravens, and that's not something we've seen exactly. 343 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: It's the way in which you lost those games. It's 344 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: not just that you lost, right, I mean, this is 345 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: one of the most lopsided losses in Ravens' recent history. 346 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: Right, we're just not used to seeing that. 347 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: Like since Lamar Jackson has been here, since this team 348 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: has been in place, and like John Harborough's been here, 349 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: like these teams don't the Ravens have not been a 350 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: team that that gets blown out often and has you know, 351 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: the backups in the game of the fourth quarter. Usually 352 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: the Ravens are on the other side of that far 353 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: more often than they are this situation that they were today. 354 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: So in that regard, like it's kind of uncharted territory. 355 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: We're just not used to seeing that with this team. 356 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's you know, at a 357 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: point where this team, you know obviously that they're they're 358 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: looking hard at what they can do to improve it. 359 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: But it's definitely a tough situation for this group early 360 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: in the season. 361 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: All Right, Well, let's take a break when we come back, 362 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about the offense and it was not 363 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: a good offensive day either. We have a lot to 364 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: break down on that side of the ball. 365 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Latch podcast. We're coming to you 366 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: from the Seat Geek Studio. We want to mention our 367 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: partners at DraftKings Sportsbook. They are an official sports betting 368 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sports Book with the 369 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: crown is yours. So the offense opens this game and 370 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: you feel like, all right, here we go. They march 371 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: down the field, score a touchdown on the opening drive 372 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: and it was like this this group is ready to 373 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: put up a big day. And honestly, that's where the 374 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: fun ended. After that opening drive. It was a much 375 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: different situation the rest of the game. And you know 376 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: it just you look at the final numbers for this 377 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: team again. Lamar Jackson ends up leaving early with a 378 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: hamstring injury. He's fourteen to twenty one hundred and forty 379 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: seven yards touchdown in an interception. Derrick Henry eight carries 380 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: for forty two yards. Justice Hill had the best stats 381 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: two touchdowns, also have three carries seventy six yards touchdown 382 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: through the air and on the ground. Got the late 383 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: touchdown a seventy one yard run late, but you know, 384 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: there wasn't much to really celebrate with the offense to 385 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: go along with everything we already said about the defense. 386 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it was shocking to me how quickly it 387 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: came unraveled. You're the first drive was awesome, and then 388 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: you're driving on the on the second one, you're at 389 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the KC thirty two yard line. You're you're in position, 390 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: it looks like you're gonna score again. And the interception 391 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: just totally threw this offense off track. And Lamar Jackson 392 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: fading away from pressure on first down and he basically 393 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: threw a jump a fifty to fifty ball to Mark 394 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: Andrews that was picked off, and you know, not a 395 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: good throw by Lamar, just kind of ill advised. The blocking. 396 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: You know, Lamar was scrambling from pressure seemingly the whole game. 397 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: And and but the the you know that's coming. You know, 398 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnola is gonna gonna bring a lot of pressure. 399 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 1: That's what they always do, right And now maybe they 400 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: weren't expecting exactly on first down on that play and 401 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: didn't have the answer. But like you know, going in 402 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, you have to have answers for pressure 403 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: and if you don't, you're gonna get run off the field. Yeah, 404 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: and the Ravens too often didn't. But I mean after 405 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: the interception, just then next drive, two delay of game 406 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: penalties totally uncharacteristic, uh, and then an intentional grounding when 407 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: again Lamar's running, running, running, running backwards, backwards, backwards, and 408 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: just you know, dumps up, gets rid of the ball. 409 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: Essional grounding right doom that drive turnover on downs. On 410 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: the third drive after the touchdown, which again there the 411 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: Ravens go for it at their own forty one on 412 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: fourth down, which really speaks to at the time it 413 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: was a one score game, it was thirteen to seven, 414 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: and and going for it, which really speaks to they 415 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: John Harbll was pretty confident this. They weren't to get 416 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: many stops, not with this decimated defense, and they had 417 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: to go for it. Don't get it again, not a 418 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: play that really didn't even come close. And then on 419 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: the next drive Lamar fumbles and it was pretty much. 420 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: Fun right, Yeah, it got it got out of hand quickly, 421 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 2: like now you went into half and it was a 422 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: ten point game. Honestly, the Chiefs missed a long field 423 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: goal and the Ravens like they get the ball and 424 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: they're able to turn that into points, which was which 425 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: was a nice kind of a nice yeah series there 426 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: for them to be able to get points out of that. 427 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: So you go in a half and it's twenty to ten. 428 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: You're like, okay, maybe if they can figure things out. 429 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: But then the Chiefs get the ball coming out of 430 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: half and it's it's the quick touchdown, and it's now 431 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: a seventeen point game. And at that point it kind 432 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: of just based on how that game the game had 433 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: gone at that point, like it wasn't insurmountable, but it 434 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: felt steep. 435 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: It just felt that way, and and so like then 436 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: at that point, the run game. 437 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: And this is something Tony Romo was harping on throughout 438 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: the game, like getting the ball to Derrick Henry at 439 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: that point after that touchdown, Like it's really hard to 440 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: try to just commit to the run. Like the Ravens 441 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: are down seventeen at that point. They did come out 442 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: running initially, but it's hard when you're in a three 443 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: score hole in the second half to really commit to 444 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: the ground game. And I do think there will probably 445 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: be some conversation around that this week, and just in 446 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: terms of Henry's usage, he finishes the game again eight 447 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: carries for forty two yards. He averaged five point three 448 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: yards of carry. Also was involved in the passing game 449 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: two catches for sixteen yards. 450 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: There he could have. 451 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: Been more involved earlier in this game. I think there's 452 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Take some of the pressure off 453 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Lamar in this in the pass protection. I thought he 454 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: came out of the gates running the ball. Well, yeah, 455 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: I think he could have been more involved early in 456 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: this game. I think there's some short yard of situations 457 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: that you know, where Derrick Henry's not on the field 458 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: and you're wondering what why, you know, why isn't Derrick Henry. 459 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: And we've seen this before, Yeah, you know. 460 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: I mean the two the two that that really stand out, 461 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Tom Monkin's gonna be asked about it 462 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: this week. Was the fourth down play is fourth and 463 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: one and a half it kind of looked like and 464 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: he wasn't on the field. And then later in the 465 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: game it was third and one and he wasn't on 466 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: He was not on the field. Ravens ended up getting sacked, 467 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: settled for a field goal that was in the second 468 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: half on their opening drive of the second. 469 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: Half, third and three to be accurate, but yes, and 470 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: then Lamars sacked for negative two yards and that was 471 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: that was Lamar's last play in the game. 472 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that like that will definitely be 473 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: something that I'm sure will be a talking point again 474 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: this week. And and the truth is, like when when 475 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: it was this the second half, Like, I don't that 476 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: the thing the thing that often happens whenever you have 477 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: a game like this where things get so out of 478 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: balance and it becomes like a pass heavy game where 479 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: you're trying to climb your way out of it and 480 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: it's like a runaway in the second half. The numbers 481 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: only get worse from like a usage standpoint and from 482 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: a from an involvement. But I do think early on 483 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: in the game he could be more involved, and I 484 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: think the Raves will look at that. I mean silver 485 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: lining note here is is obviously the fumbling was a 486 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: big talking point coming into this game. Derek talked all 487 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: week about how he was doing everything he could to 488 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: ensure that it didn't happen again. Notice he didn't have 489 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: the sleeves on that He's been wearing to typically wears. 490 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: That was you know, one difference, but he held onto 491 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: the ball, held it tight, and so I thought that 492 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: was a good sign. And certainly hope that that's you know, 493 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: that the fumbling issue is behind him moving forward. 494 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely hope for that. And I think 495 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: that certainly as we move forward, if Lamar Jackson is 496 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: going to miss any time, Derek Henry's going to see 497 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: the ball a lot. Cooper Rush came in and in relief, 498 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: it was not a particularly sharp outing from the backup quarterback. 499 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean his first drive, Ravens went Ford on fourth 500 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: down and he threw the ball away seemingly, which you 501 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: know can't have can't happen. He went nine to thirteen 502 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: for fifty two yards, and so you know this, this 503 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: is part of the reason why the Ravens invested more 504 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: money than they typically do at backup quarterback is to 505 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: have a guy like Cooper Rush. And and you know, 506 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: obviously things change dramatically if Lamar Jackson is not on 507 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, he's arguably the best player in 508 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: the NFL, So there's no real replacing in air quotes 509 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. But you spend money on Cooper Rush because 510 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: you believe that you have a good enough team around 511 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: him to win even if Lamar is not on there, 512 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: and and that you just need adequate, you know, solid 513 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: play for your backup quarterback. So the Ravens will be 514 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: looking for that. But I mean, honestly, defensively, you got 515 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot to clean up there. Like, if the Ravens 516 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: defense doesn't give up fewer points there, you're probably not 517 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: winning a lot of shootouts at this point. If Lamar 518 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: Jackson is not on the field. 519 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: Right and and look, who knows. 520 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: Hopefully he's back, I mean, like, uh, hopefully it's it's 521 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: not a situation that this hamstring injury is long term 522 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: by any stretch. 523 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: You want it to be like no term. 524 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 2: You hope that he's back on the field Sunday when 525 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: they're taking on the Texans, who got their first win 526 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: of the season, and the Texans have a really good defense. 527 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: You know, Texans have struggled a little bit this season, 528 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: but like their defense is legit. They can get after 529 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback, they can cover, and so it's gonna be 530 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: tough sledding for the offense even if Lamar on the field. 531 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: And so you want your team to be as close 532 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: to full strength in that game. 533 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: And this is really like as as you look forward, 534 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: this is a game that the Ravens need to have 535 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: coming back home against an AFC opponent that's one and 536 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: three as well, you know, and the Texans are looking 537 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: at it like they got to climb out of their 538 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: own hole. So this is this is a really important 539 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: game and a bounce back opportunity for this team. 540 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: But they've got to do it. 541 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: And you know, it's still it's still very early in 542 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: the season. The Ravens can absolutely right the ship and 543 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: get things headed in the right direction here, but they 544 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 2: have to do it and and time will tell if 545 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: they're able to do that. 546 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: They have to improve and they have to get healthier. 547 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: I think that you know, your two games behind in 548 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: the AFC North, and the AFC North is not decided 549 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: after four weeks, I can tell you that much, especially 550 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: this division this year, you know. I mean, the Cincinnati 551 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: Bengals are without Joe Burrow potentially for the rest of 552 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: the year. It's they got blown out in their first 553 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: game without them. We'll see what happens this week. The 554 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are also one to three. The Ravens already 555 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: beat them the Steelers watching Steelers Football Day. You know, 556 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't think they're an unbeatable team by any stretch. 557 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: And uh, and so I expect the Ravens are gonna 558 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: play tough games against them, but you got to get 559 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: better and you got to get healthier. That that's If 560 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: those two things don't happen, then no, it's gonna be 561 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. But I think if those two 562 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: things can happen, the Ravens are gonna contend for the 563 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: AFC North titles still, which feels crazy to say it 564 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: one to three after a lopsided lost in Kansas City, 565 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: but I believe that. 566 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 567 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: So again, this team is gonna take a look at 568 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: where they can what they can do to improve and 569 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: really just uh, we'll do everything they can to get 570 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: things right. And you know, I think that they've got 571 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: the pieces to do it. And now it's just a 572 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: matter of making that happen. So tough loss for this team, 573 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: and again they'll be back. They'll be back in action 574 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: next Sunday one o'clock at home against the Houston Texans. 575 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: We'll continue breaking things down over the course of the 576 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: week head coach Sean Harbaugh has his regular press conference 577 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: on Monday, and then the team will be back on 578 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: the practice field Wednesday, so we'll have a chance to 579 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: hear from the guys and the big storyline. As we've 580 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: mentioned many times over the course of this week, it's 581 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: going to be quarterback Lamar Jackson and his health status, 582 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: along with several other key players on this team. Several 583 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: enough number yeah so whatever above, several yeah, A ton 584 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: a ton of guys. So as always, you can email 585 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: us at the lounge at Ravens dot nfl net. Thank 586 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: you so much for listening, and we will be back 587 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: with you again later this week.