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Speaker 1: Stereo podcast. I'm here with Jake Crossover and and people

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Speaker 1: sometimes like Jay cross Over, that's a funny nickname. And

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Speaker 1: then when last night comes around, you really like like

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Speaker 1: that was like, uh Internet, uh shutdown the Internet? Worthy?

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Speaker 1: And I was just telling south. So my son have

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Speaker 1: Right now, you're one of the dudes that could that

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Speaker 1: it at Play dot It Jake Crossover, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: You're in the hip hop with you anywhere you want

441
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Speaker 1: to go? Where are you? Where are you at? What? What? What's?

442
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Speaker 1: What's the latest joint you downloaded? That you're rocking in

443
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Speaker 1: your car consistently, that you've been rocking in your car

444
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Speaker 1: for longer than a week. Awesome. I just bought Joey Badass,

445
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: but I haven't listened to it, but I just bought it.

446
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: Kendrick I pre ordered obviously. I'm a fan of like

447
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: nineties hip hop. But Wally is my god waiting for

448
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 1: his album to come out, so like j Cole, I

449
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: love Jacole. Yeah, he's consistent. I love real like lyricists,

450
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: but I love ninety sip hop. Now He's always takes

451
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Speaker 1: me back who but but from today because I'm gonna

452
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Speaker 1: go into the nineties. Kendrick Cole, Wallet, I love them,

453
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: They're my favorites. I would say I love Gucci Maname

454
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: for a different reason, oh different, Like he's not the

455
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: lyricist they are, but he just he has his lane

456
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: the best that is laning there. What are you because

457
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Speaker 1: you you we've talked about hip hop and we'll go

458
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Speaker 1: into what do you think about the mumble rappers, because

459
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: to me, it's it's it's like indicative of the young kids.

460
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: Like it's like, yeah, they're not ready, are not ready,

461
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: just like dudes coming in the NBA. Just because you

462
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Speaker 1: get a record conference. Just because it rhymes, don't mean

463
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't mean they don't even make albums. Really, it's

464
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Speaker 1: just more singles and downloads and you know, so it's

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Speaker 1: it's representative of this generation. Though. To them, this is

466
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Speaker 1: their Tupacs and there ice Cubes and they're you know,

467
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: but they really think, these guys like you know, like

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Speaker 1: if you put on a certain ice Cube song, like

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Speaker 1: something from his you know, like his first record, like

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Speaker 1: you're like, ah, in twenty years, I don't know if

471
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be like oh no, they may not be,

472
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Speaker 1: but right now, this is what they feel. And it's

473
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Speaker 1: easier to make a record. It's easier to be seen

474
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Speaker 1: or you know, you can put something on social media

475
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Speaker 1: and get five views. Unbelievable. Yes, it's so easy to

476
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Speaker 1: you know, Drake said, what a time to be alive.

477
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: It really for this generation is what it's timing to

478
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Speaker 1: be alive and certain things that is going on. All right,

479
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Speaker 1: the obligatory top five m c s let's do, let's

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Speaker 1: do all alive. No disrespect to Biggie and Tupac to me,

481
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Speaker 1: they're they're rears are so short, it's hard to put

482
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: them in the mix. So let's exclude them because they're

483
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: obviously in a category all themselves. They're they're they're now

484
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: in like you know that era that only they can

485
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: go to. Those two guys. They're they're, they're, they're iconic,

486
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: beyond iconic. So today, and I know it's interchangeable. Top

487
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Speaker 1: five at top five, MCS alive at today, however you

488
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Speaker 1: want to wrap your head around, I could see you tomorrow.

489
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Speaker 1: You might tell me at different five. So you know

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Speaker 1: this is not like you know, gun to your head,

491
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Speaker 1: but today the gun is to your head. Okay. So

492
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Speaker 1: my five, I always say, and they want to take

493
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Speaker 1: them off is Biggie, Tupac, jay Z, Nas, and so

494
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: let's take off Biggie in Tupac right now. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: we got Nas, Biggie Andre No, Nas, jay Z, and

496
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Speaker 1: so we've got two spots to fill okay, But the

497
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: thing with Eminem to me sick. Never want to be

498
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Speaker 1: on an Eminem distrack. Every time I say the thing

499
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Speaker 1: with Eminem, I'm like, please please please hear me out Eminem.

500
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Speaker 1: I feel like the beasts that he's chosen to rhyme

501
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: over on his solo records, they're not funky enough to me.

502
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: Great songs, skill level, ridiculous, get to knife, m C

503
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Speaker 1: Chop you up, flows up the wazoo. But do we

504
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: really want to listen to I'm the real shady to

505
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Speaker 1: them said, now you're changing the question. I know, because

506
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: if we're just talking to straight lyricist at all of

507
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Speaker 1: them at their peak, you I gotta go Jay z

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Speaker 1: Nas Andree m Wayne and now I gotta put Kendrick

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Speaker 1: in there. Wow, wait a second, Wait a second, Wayne,

510
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Speaker 1: do you remember Wayne? He's running? I remember his run.

511
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Speaker 1: It was short, but first of all, do but you

512
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: remember that everything that built up to the it was

513
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: like it was like he hit a hot spot. And listen,

514
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Speaker 1: I just heard him on the Ray Kwon Joint. Did

515
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: you hear the new record? You know the Ray Kwon jointing?

516
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: You know his voice in me is like listening to

517
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: like Lou Rolls or some ship. Like his voice we

518
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Speaker 1: when the beats are right, because his voice sounds it

519
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: sounds great. Question you know he's on that joint he's killing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, because there's one joint with Ray Kwon

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Speaker 1: with Wayne on Ray Kwan Drink, that's dope. Alright. I'm

522
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: not saying he's not dope Ei there, but I'm just saying,

523
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Speaker 1: like there was a period where he was rocking and

524
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: what what what was that period? Like what were the joints?

525
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Speaker 1: I would say that's when he was like a mixtape everything.

526
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: He was just killing everything. Yes, everything, Yes, like we

527
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: heard Wayne so much. He's sick. He had a crazy run.

528
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Speaker 1: But okay, so you put him as the top five

529
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Speaker 1: and then Kendrick is like your six man. Kendrick is

530
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: the Jamal Crawford right now of MCS for you that

531
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: are alive. But his his story is still being written.

532
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: Like he can still go. He could go either way.

533
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: He's got He's got you two on his new record.

534
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying he could go either way. He can. But

535
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: when he goes rapping, just rapping, just pure rapping, he

536
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: can go to a place where very few alive or

537
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: passed can go all right, all right, I'm not. I'm not.

538
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: These are all good choices. I mean, I'm gonna go.

539
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm definitely hovers on every choice. I'm excluding Biggie and Tupac.

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00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: Hoven Nas are on every list, you know, and it

541
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: could vary. Man, there's dudes like I mean the three

542
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: that my normal top five is Hove Nas, Rock Kim,

543
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: Big Daddy, Kane and Caress One. But there's there's you know,

544
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Speaker 1: I mean, I was just an underrated MC. Cute Tip

545
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: is a banger. Your cute Tip joints like if you

546
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: listen to someone like Seeker N word is like that

547
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: should be in the Smithsonian Museum. Cute Tip can go

548
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: there rapping and they're acting. He can go there producing. Yeah,

549
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he could go there acting. And

550
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: I love you, Tip, I haven't seen that. I haven't

551
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: seen that great Cute Tip performance. I'm not saying he

552
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: can't go there. And he's a total artist. I'm saying

553
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if he killed the right

554
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: partisan act. I just haven't seen his his um, his

555
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: role and what was it? She hate me? It's okay,

556
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm not but I'm saying, but, but, but he's no.

557
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Speaker 1: Andre's sick to big Boy is big Boy gets a

558
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: overshadow to like his body of work is better than Andres.

559
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: It might be, But I'm just saying, take out this

560
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: eye tests, all right, you know, just listening, ear tests,

561
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: just straight listening. I've seen Andre rap circles around some

562
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: of your favorite He's ill. He's ill, but he's so ill,

563
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: he's not caught up. And he's like, I don't need

564
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: to be annoyed. I'm in my own lane. Yeah, he's

565
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: on some Jimmy hen he's on some pure artists stuff,

566
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: and and and I think that one of the things

567
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: that's frustrating me about hip hop is the guys that

568
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: all these guys that we mentioned that are alive, I

569
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's it's in the culture of rap music,

570
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: hip hop, but their best interest to keep the music

571
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: traditional that boom bab. It doesn't have to all be

572
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: that boom bab. We're never going back to the nineties,

573
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: I know that. But like some of the production, my

574
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: biggest problem with well, there's there's a lot of problems

575
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: with hip hop right now. But one of the biggest

576
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: things that I think is lost in hip hop is

577
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: the production, that craftsmanship of a tip of a pete rock.

578
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: I could do singles and it's just the catchy thing.

579
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: And people, most of people are in the clubs, they

580
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: don't want to go that deep with it, you know

581
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: what I mean. They just want to feel good for

582
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: the moment. And that's just it. And that's why you'll

583
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: see guys I don't want to say names with this

584
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: generation who people think are like great and it's just

585
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: it's easy, like I could, I could have wrote that

586
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: or whatever. I forgot Rick Ross's album. I've been playing

587
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: that NonStop makes good music. Yes, yes, you're just saying

588
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: it's always far as record new record, Yes, yes, he does,

589
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: but he makes really he's consistent. He makes good music.

590
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: He picks good beats too. I agree. I agree when

591
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: he's on the right beat. Yeah, he sounds good. He

592
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: flows on. He got a specific voice. I mean, yeah, no,

593
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: he's dope. I mean there's there's like, you know, even

594
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: favorite groups. Ever let me hear you that favorite groups.

595
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean I gotta go try try for sure. Outcast

596
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: not in w A. I mean I love their second album,

597
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: but Truth on the Truth and you could ask most

598
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: New Yorkers this at the time. When that first record

599
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: came out, we were like, what the funk is this?

600
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: Straight up, we were like it sounded whatsenall didn't go

601
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: to Compton, y'all didn't see exactly how it felt to

602
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: be not not the content, the content in terms of

603
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: like the message was there, like we get it, like, Yo,

604
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: this must be wild out there, and it was wild

605
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: in New York. But the music and the red like listen,

606
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: these dudes are legends, and I've I learned to appreciate

607
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: those first records, but just for the ear test, what

608
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: was it eighty nine? When they came out, we were like,

609
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? First of all, I'm and

610
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not, I'm not I don't blush, but

611
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: even I was like, Yo, this guy's cursingly like I

612
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: was like, and I was nineteen, so I was filthy,

613
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: but I was like, Yo, what is this? This is crazy?

614
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: It was so vulgar and I'm talking about I'm not approved.

615
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, but I was like, Yo, this is

616
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: this is bugged out And I felt like the rapping

617
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: style was was like caught like in the in the eighties,

618
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was caught in

619
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Speaker 1: the early eight said, and I'll be in there second

620
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: album when Wren stepped in and obviously que Mass left

621
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: and Dre and they came back with the Fury. It

622
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: was sick and ring to me as an underrated I

623
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: mean he's like corrupt. A lot of guys like that.

624
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: He's sick. Like his run, like when he was on

625
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: when he was on the right beat em c run

626
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: with that voice, the villain. He was, Okay, tribe outcast

627
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Speaker 1: um man, I go tribe outcast ill go e p

628
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Speaker 1: m D. I'm not gonna say Eric being rock him

629
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Speaker 1: although they're a group, I'll say um because you know

630
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: that well we're missing gang Star. Yeah. Run DMC Run

631
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: DMC is classic American music that ain't that ain't dated.

632
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Their joints are their joints, um, I mean there's there's

633
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: The beat Nuts are one of my favorites. The beat

634
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Nuts are like my I would call him my Jamal Crawfords,

635
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: like their guys are like you forget about, like you

636
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: could forget their for record and a lot of people

637
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: may not say off the top of the Brothers first record,

638
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: ridiculous Dayla who do who you? I mean, it's the same,

639
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: it's the same. There's no hip hop groups now there

640
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: is national groups anymore. Ray Sherman's not Ray Sherman. Is

641
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: that a group officially? Technically? Yeah, they're there's three, Like

642
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: how many people rhyme in that group? I'm taking out Casting, Outcast, YO, Tribe,

643
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Outcast and Tribe. I mean, I think those are my

644
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: two favorite groups. Outcast you love the n w A

645
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: because you're in Seattle in the West Coast. So I

646
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: just couldn't believe what I was here. I'm like, oh,

647
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: this is crazy. How old were you when you must

648
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: have been like like a kid. Yeah, I was like nine.

649
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: The vulgarity bugged me out and I was disgusting. Like

650
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm like now I'm like, you know, like I'm sort

651
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: of prude, but at the ninth was like it was

652
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: just remember all the older people I was riding with

653
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: at the time, We're playing in w A, and you know,

654
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: like it was like you heard that for sure? Alright,

655
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: So Seattle, what's going on up there in the water.

656
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: You're putting out NBA dude, you got your dude, Isaiah

657
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: Thomas killing it. You got you do Brian Scalabrini, Big Red.

658
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Who else is from what's the old What's the old

659
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Seattle Team? I just don't names that. Okay, you don't

660
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: have to. Brandon Roy, Jason Terry forgot about both of them,

661
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: James Edwards, Clint Richardson, h Nate Robinson, Terence Williams, Rodney Stuckey,

662
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Brooks, Martell Webster, Spencer Hawes, Luke ridden our Um,

663
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: will Conroy. I say, Terence Williams, Tony Rodan, Isaiah Avery, Uh,

664
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Marvin Williams. What what is like? I've never Christie, I

665
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: never even make that's a crew. That's a crew all

666
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: guards to mostly what's the deal up there? It is

667
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it a small area where all these dudes are from?

668
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: Yes and no, it's it's when I was going to

669
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: the NBA. I remember playing. I was playing with the

670
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Bulls and I remember playing. I was in Chicago at

671
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: the time. So you had uh, Mike Finley over here,

672
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: you had Antone walk over here, you had Tim Hardaway

673
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: over here, you had and they were all they played together,

674
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: they all kind of went their separate ways. I said, okay, cool,

675
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: when I go home, this is what I'm gonna do.

676
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: I'll make sure everybody kind of comes up together. And

677
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Jason Terry was right before me, and Mike Dicktion was

678
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: right before him, Doug Christians before that. But I was

679
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: kind of one of the ones that kind of like,

680
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: all right, we're getting everybody together. And so the younger generation,

681
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing so many guys after me. It

682
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: was Branding and Nate and Spencer and Martell and Martin,

683
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: everybody else had his name. They all came up after

684
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: Rodney Stucky. I said, yeah, so we got a bunch

685
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: of guys. Did you see these do who the dudes

686
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: underneath you and Seattle? Like the young when they were younger?

687
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: Who was like you were? Like, yo, Brandon Brandon, what

688
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: was it about him? How mature he was for like

689
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: all in the courts a sophomore when I met him,

690
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: and how talented he was. But Brandon Isaiah, I had

691
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: him ever since he was a sophomore, Thomas. So now

692
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: you're you, You're out there, you're playing against him and

693
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: he's trying to the business. Yeah, we laugh about it

694
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: every time we play against each other because it's still

695
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: a personal thing, you know what I mean, Like I'm

696
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: still a big brother. He's like, no, it's my time,

697
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we're still going at

698
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: it for sure, and it's it never stops at first.

699
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Every time we're on the court, we're laughing, or because

700
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: we talk every single day. We talked today, like we

701
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: talked every single day, Like I was a grooms when

702
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: his wedding, his grooms in mind, Like that's my brother

703
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: for real. So yeah, so it's like it's a whole

704
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: different thing. So so did you ever imagine, honestly that

705
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: he would emerge this much and be this prominent and

706
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: this much of an offensive force, Like honestly, do you

707
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Or you can't even predict that? Like I'll

708
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: tell you what I did tell him when he got

709
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: traded to Boston, he was down. He was like man,

710
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: and he was like I don't even know where I am. Yeah,

711
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you do this right, you'll be an

712
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: all star. That was system, the system system because they

713
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: didn't have like a go to score. They had a

714
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: bunch of a school dirty work. But he was like

715
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: the go to score and they wouldn't try to change him.

716
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: And he had guys that can kind of cover for him.

717
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: He can cover for them. On the other end. So

718
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, you could be an All

719
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: Star in the East. I didn't know he'd be an MVP. Conversation.

720
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I know he averaged twenty nine points, but I knew

721
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: he would be an All Star. I told him now, like,

722
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: you'll be an All Star niece, but I didn't know

723
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: everything else. The next level after that was coming so fast.

724
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: How big of a loss was it that the Seattle SuperSonics,

725
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: which is such an iconic NBA team, I mean the

726
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: worst color scheme in NBA history, sorry, or most iconic

727
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: one or the other most iconic or or or questionable. Fine,

728
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm bringing them up. I love them. Jack sickma. See

729
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: what happened was like when I was coming up, I

730
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: used to go work out with the Sonics, So I

731
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: was working out with Gary Payton and then Baker and

732
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Sean Camping, those guys. Those guys were coming to my

733
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: high school games. So when I got in touch with

734
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: them and I can ask them questions, that kind of

735
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: molded me and made my dreams reality. Like, look, if

736
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: you can play with the Sonics at sixteen, you can

737
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: do this for real. Wait a second, way to second,

738
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: Wait a second, you're wait, what do you mean You're

739
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: playing with pros at sixteen. I'm going to facility at

740
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, because you're that dude at the time

741
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: at the time, and so like, what are your memories

742
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: of that? Like I was, I was doing well, I

743
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: was doing well in there. You're playing against pros. Yes,

744
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: that's Gary Payton about at sixteen years old. So I'm

745
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: going in there and I'm like, you know what, my dream,

746
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: it's not so far fetched. I'm playing against these guys.

747
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: I can do the program I run. Now you should

748
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: be done. Christie's problem. I'm playing against Damon Stodemeyer and

749
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: playing against um Sean Camp all these guys. I'm averaging

750
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: thirty points sixteen years old. So I'm kidding me, like,

751
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: I can do this. So my point is, with those

752
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: guys there, it made it more realistic. So now that's

753
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: even more important for us to go back with no team,

754
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: so they could see Isaiah, they could see me, they

755
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: could see Brandon touch us and talk to us and

756
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: be like, oh, we can do it too, So it inspires.

757
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: That's that's incredible, man. I mean when you tell me

758
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: like this about like you being so young, I mean

759
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: it's like some people are born to do something. Yeah,

760
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: I was going to play It's obvious. Yeah, without a doubt.

761
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: What's your Gary Payton story? Oh you want to hear

762
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: this one. I want to hear it, all right. So

763
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: my name is my name is really rising in Seattle,

764
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: and it's taken off. It's like, and I'm not bragging,

765
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: this is I'm one of the most famous. They're not.

766
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm most one of the most well known people in Seattle.

767
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: As a sixteen year old kid. You So Gary's nephew

768
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: in our close really close, right, and so he's always

769
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: telling Gary not with me there, you can't hold jam

770
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: all you can. This is the glove He's telling Pat.

771
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: This is beginner skin. This is the glove. This is

772
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: Gary Payton, just come off ninety six finals. This is

773
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: the glove. Right. So me with the small cars house center,

774
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: still in Seattle, most popular, mall me, my two friends

775
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: wanted to be in Gary Payton's nephew. We're bump into Gary.

776
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: Gary has like six people with all his boys, big guys. Right,

777
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: So this is the first time I've known that this

778
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: guy has been telling Gary that I'm gonna do this

779
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: and that to him So we're in the food court.

780
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: This is the most popular part of South Center. This

781
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: is Gary Payton. So everybody comes over there and everybody

782
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: knows me, but this is still Gary Payton. So he

783
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: goes down the line, talks to his nephew. You you've

784
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: been talking all this trash. I already beat you at

785
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: my camp. He talks to my other friend who was

786
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Will Conroy coach that you dub. Now, I already beat

787
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: you at my camp. You trash. And I'm the last one,

788
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: and you point to me. You come see me because

789
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm hearing about all these crossovers and all this. You're

790
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: doing all this and that, So you come see me.

791
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: We'll play one on one. The bigger the crowd, the louder.

792
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: Gary gets not tories. So we'll play one on one.

793
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: If you beat me, I gave you a million dollars.

794
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: If I beat you, you gotta run around neck in

795
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: your neighborhood, and I'm gonna drive around looking at you

796
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: in one of my trucks. The whole crowd there is packed.

797
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: I mean it is literally hundreds of people who have

798
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: come to watch this conversation. I'm sixteen and I'm not

799
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: backing down embarrassing. I'm like, I'm like, I didn't say them,

800
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: but whatever, we could do whatever, right, So we kind

801
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: of go back and forth, and Gary Payton loves to talk.

802
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: He's one of the best, yes, period, He's almost like

803
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: the Don Rickles of NBA, Like he's one of the best,

804
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: one of the best ever, if not the best. And

805
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: then he says he says what he says. After I

806
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: say what I say, He's like, let's ride and all

807
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: his guys in formation walk off like it was the president.

808
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, how do you come back

809
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: from this? So that was my one of my best

810
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: Gary Payton stories. Did you ever want to play him

811
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: one on one? Did that game? Didn't happen? That never happened.

812
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: So when you did, when was the first time you

813
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: actually did want to be playing in the game or

814
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: a pickup game or a summ of the game with

815
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Gary Payton my rookie year. Okay, so it wasn't til

816
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: you were in the pros? Yeah, And what was what

817
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: was it? What was it? Like? It was crazy because

818
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: all that time, you know, knowing him, and at that

819
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: point he started mentoring me. I went actually, when I

820
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: declared for the draft, I wouldn't worked out with him

821
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: in Oakland, I wouldn't stay with him and worked out

822
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: with him and everything. So at that point the talking

823
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: we wasn at mentor that wasn't meant to or you know,

824
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: student at that point. That became after all that, and

825
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: he would start coming my high school games and start

826
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: hanging out with him, started picking his brain and he

827
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: became like a big brother. So then at that point

828
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: and when I played him on the court, it was

829
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: just all this big brother, it wasn't the whole. All

830
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: the animosity was gone because to me, my impression, I

831
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: didn't hear it. Gary Payton like his his his trash talk,

832
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: it was never personal. Was basketball related, you know. Yeah,

833
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: but he'll take you wherever he needs to take. He

834
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: would take he would you know who else a great

835
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce? The Truth? Yeah, on the lower and the high.

836
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: The truth is something. The truth. The truth is one

837
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Speaker 1: of the better trash talkers I play. I'm gonna tell

838
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: you my my all trash talk to my play. I would. Now,

839
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I've never done this before. Our guys I've

840
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: been around obviously, Gary Payton, it's like a big bro.

841
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: I didn't play with him. Jalen Rose was slick. He

842
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: talked a lot. Oh yeah, Jalen was slick. Jalen was

843
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: really slick. Paul Pierce, what was his his trash talking?

844
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: What was his thing? Because I didn't know Paul appears,

845
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: because I mean, I've seen him get into what with dudes,

846
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: But I would never think like he talking because some

847
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: dudes do it on the low, like you learned later,

848
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 1: like Larry Bird was a big trip, but he wasn't

849
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: like this. It was like, Yeah, Paul will say anything

850
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: and it's hilarious, like we'll be He'll say anything. He'll

851
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: talk about a guy wearing somebody else's shoes. He'll talk

852
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: about like, oh, you're a fan of him, so you're

853
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna wear here? You can't get your own shoes? Okay,

854
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: I got you. He'll say anything or anything. I can't

855
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: even say some of stuff. He'll say anything. But Paul

856
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: is one of the best ones. Get who else? Can

857
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: me say? Who else? Let me think Stefan didn't do

858
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: too much talking. Now he's one of your coaches. What

859
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: the hell? He was gone when he did he play?

860
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: I played with Scottie Pippen, alright, I played with Oakley

861
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: KG Oh, he got to be on your own trap.

862
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean, what was he talking? But he seemed like

863
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: he would talk to him. Everybody to him, what like, Yo,

864
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna get So I've talked to people now that no.

865
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: KG obviously, Paul saying Chauncey KG is one of the

866
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: most locked in people to ever play basketball. Like on

867
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: game days, you know, not even mess with him, Like

868
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: he's sold locked in on everything. He's going through the

869
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: pregame like it's a game, like going through everything at

870
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: full bore, like when you're warming up and like so

871
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: he's definitely on the all time John Stockton, you played

872
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: against one of his last year, well, I mean he

873
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: and he was always still double double starting thirteen and

874
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: eleven and thirteen. Well, and he had a cross over

875
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: to yeah, right to left, deceptive, smart set, some of

876
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: the most solid picks. Was he a dirty player? I

877
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: won't call him dirty, but I say he did what

878
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: it takes whatever too. He give you a little first. Yes,

879
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: he's not dirty, but he'll do whatever takes to win.

880
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: There's nothing more important than winning nothing, nothing and not

881
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: send the games. We could play a shooting game, we

882
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: could play pool, if we could play anything, and that's Chris.

883
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: He's competitive. That's an understatement. He's the most Yeah, that's

884
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: that's when he's not in competitive mode, he's one of

885
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: the most competitive people I've ever met. Been around anything.

886
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: He's he's on another level. And what about it's almost

887
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: like a sickness that yes, because it's not just basketball.

888
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: It could be anything. Let's see what color car comes

889
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: up first. It could be anything. But that's what makes him.

890
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: That's like the foundation, that what makes him great, so great,

891
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Jordan's what's your Jordan's story?

892
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: What's what you want I have? I was around him

893
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: so long. What was the first time, Like, didn't he

894
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: like you work out with him in the summer when

895
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: you were a rookie or okay, so the first time

896
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: I met him, well before that, my dad talk about competitive.

897
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's he's something different. But my dad, right,

898
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: he's telling me in the draft, like I hear Michael

899
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: Jordan likes your game, may try a trade for you.

900
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: At this time, he was a VP for the Wizards.

901
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, my dad does now. My day's played

902
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: by the way at Oregon he played with Kevin loves that.

903
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: He's like I'm like, my dad doesn't know this business. Right.

904
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: So anyways, fast forward, I get drafted by Chicago. The

905
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: first time I meet Michael Jordan's Tim Grover calls me

906
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: six summer in the morning. He's like, hey, MJ said

907
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: you can meet him. I'm like, what, all right? I

908
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: had a game that day, so we had shoot around

909
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: in Tim. I go down there at seven. It's just myself,

910
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: m J, Tim Grover in the in the room. Yeah,

911
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: in the weight room. George has been there an hour.

912
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: So he got there six. He was forty. But it

913
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: was so it was no secret to why he was

914
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: so great. He was his work ethic, along with his talent,

915
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: along with his mind, along with his competitiveness, along with

916
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: his mentality, along with his size, along with everything else. Right,

917
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: So we're talking. I'm like, oh man, So summer comes up,

918
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: I start working out with him. It guys, we never

919
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: lost in two summers ever. We played on the same team.

920
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: Not one time they lose in two summers. It would

921
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: get to the point he would wait for me to

922
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: come to the gym, like, all right, master, let's go. Like.

923
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: He wouldn't play until I got there. He took a

924
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: like in him I started going in his house. If

925
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: you go look at the commercial where it's Michael Jordan

926
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: a Gatorway commercial, so old Jordan versus the young girl.

927
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: He picked me to be the young Jordan. So we

928
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: got like such a relationship. Michael Jordan introduced me to

929
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: Jay Z. I asked Michael Jordan. I was like, man,

930
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I got so cool with Michael Jordan's and I was like,

931
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: you know, I want to meet Jay Z. Okay cool.

932
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan introduced me to Jay And then how did

933
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: he did? Was he there when you met him? Or like, yeah,

934
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: we're all out that night alight in a restaurant. Oh

935
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: I could throw even another layer? Hell yeah, I tell

936
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan that, right. I end up getting hurt when

937
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: I was playing with Michael Jordan. Ter see you so

938
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago by you can't have your

939
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: surgery and me they got to swell and go down

940
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Boom, Mike said, you don't meet him? Okay? Cool?

941
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Fast forward two weeks we all at a restaurant. I

942
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: meet Michael in the restaurant. There's a black truck on

943
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: the corners, just like any black truck, like park right there.

944
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even notice same thing special about it. Why

945
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: don't you want you know, why are you walking around?

946
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: Why you why? Why don't you guys know? Why don't

947
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: you have your crutches? That's what we said. Why are

948
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: you walking around about your crutches? I'm like, you know

949
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: this what I gotta go down? It's all good. I

950
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: walk up. Here's the truck all the corner. I'm walking

951
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: this way. I get here there over here him friends

952
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: of ours. I walk up, Boom boom, the window goes down.

953
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: It's jay Z like they set up the whole thing.

954
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: I said, Oh ship. I backed up like like oh ship, Like,

955
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: oh my good, Like I've been wanting to meet him

956
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: from then Jay starts coming to watch me, pick up,

957
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: picks me to wear a shoe. We do a commercial together,

958
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: s Dot Carter. All that started because Michael Jordan's so

959
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: when you're around, like, what is Michael Jordan's deal? Like

960
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: is he just a regular dude? Like after you get craziness, okay,

961
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: first looks like there's a glow around you. Looks like

962
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: the white cloud around him as a glow. It looks

963
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: like there's something you've never seen before. At first, then

964
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: once I start seeing them all the time and start

965
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: hanging out with him, then it's like, oh, he's just

966
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: cool and he's just as normal as possible as he

967
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: possibly could be, I should say. But right, but when

968
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: there's like obviously when he's out in public, it's a

969
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: differentluse people are hystereo. Can imagine if you saw Michael

970
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: Jordan walking up right like he just drinking a coffee

971
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: over here on sent to Nello, you would lose your mind.

972
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: So that part of it, you know, But other than that,

973
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: like when he was just closed course, he was as

974
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: normal as possible. Now when you're with Michael Jordan's, he's

975
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: wearing like soccer mom clothing and do you ever want

976
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: to be like one day I go to the gym,

977
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: he has a yellow Jordan's cut off shirt, he has

978
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: some black and yellow shorts, some Jordan's with some yellow

979
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: trim that probably still haven't come out, and then he

980
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: had a yellow for our outside. So he always was

981
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: like just on another level, Michael, that's crazy, man, something

982
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: totally different. Man, oh man, oh man. All right, my Nicks,

983
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: you were there. Do you want me to be honest?

984
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: Do you want me? Yeah? Yeah, I want you to

985
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 1: be honest, I want you to help me sleep better

986
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: at night. Half the time they're playing one style half

987
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: the time and playing another, And what are the two

988
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: styles that triangle in everything else? Is there room for

989
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: the triangle in this NBA today. I'm not saying it's not,

990
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: but you have to have the right personnel to do it.

991
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: You can't have guys who want to attack and play

992
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: pick and roll and normally be a basketball but then

993
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: you do the triangle. You're fighting before you even get

994
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: to the opponent to play against. You're playing against yourselves.

995
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: Like that's not adding up. Do you have you ever

996
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: seen any You've been on a bunch of teams, you've

997
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: been around this league? How many you're almost in the league?

998
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: Twenty years seven? Today, I'm finishing my Tomorrow, I will

999
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: finish my seventeenth year. Congratulations, Thank you, I appreciate it.

1000
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. By the way, Jamal Crawford and I share

1001
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: the same birthday. Yes, Pisces, you played ball for the Knicks? Yes?

1002
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: For what? What what was it like being a New

1003
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: York Knick? Just doing some stories from people on the Knicks? Yeah,

1004
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: all right, So do I want some stories? Bear ship

1005
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: in the Woods. I'm gonna give you the Woods. I'm

1006
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna give you three simple questions, three stories. Give it

1007
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: to me. My career high. Missed my first four shots

1008
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: half fifty two against the Heat. You were at the game.

1009
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: You know who else was at the game? Hove, no

1010
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: kneel long, he FLEs. Oh crap, that's right, passed away

1011
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: right shortly after that. I remember that. That's the one

1012
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: and only time I've seen Heath Fledger of my life.

1013
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: I never saw I don't even know he was at

1014
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: the game until you know they it starts the game

1015
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 1: that nixt side or whatever, and I saw it there.

1016
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: He fledged was there. He passed shortly after that. That's crazy.

1017
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: Another time, preseason, I go play well, preseason kind of

1018
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: you know it was preseason, but I wanted to kind

1019
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: of ingrain myself in the city a little bit, so

1020
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: I played. I was playing harder than usual. Play well,

1021
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: go to tow with Stefan Adam Sanders there. What's he

1022
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: was at the game? Where I'm like, oh, this is crazy.

1023
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: This is one of my first preseason games with the Knicks.

1024
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, Adam Salley knows I am from this last time,

1025
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: I give you so we're playing the Miami Heat. I

1026
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: think the year they win the championship, I believe, And

1027
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: Samuel Jackson's there, I'm gonna sue, I'm gonna sue. I'm hurt.

1028
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm sitting out. I'm not serious her, but I'm not

1029
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: playing that game. And he comes to the game. He's

1030
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: like across the courts sitting courtside, across the game. He's like,

1031
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: you're not playing. I'm like, no, I'm hurt. I point

1032
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: down in my foot. He's like, oh, like, I only

1033
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: came to see you play tonight. I'm like, oh man,

1034
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: that Samuel Jackson. So yeah, I was. I got a

1035
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: bunch of neck stories, but that was the three standout. Well,

1036
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: where was the pressure the most? Like you, you're in

1037
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: l A, You've lived in New York, you played for

1038
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: New York. You could feel it more. Why Because it's

1039
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: like it's like the people they are playing through you,

1040
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: almost almost like you are representing us. You were like

1041
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: even playing at the Rucker with jam those guys like

1042
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: you feel that energy. It's just a totally different energy.

1043
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: It's a totally different energy. You can't even try to

1044
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: duplicate it. That's cool. When you just said people are

1045
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: playing through you. I've never said that before, but now

1046
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: that that was kind of the best way of describing

1047
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: I. I I know what you mean that that's I never

1048
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: you feel like you're playing through starts. So your your

1049
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: attachment to him was different, like you you love hard

1050
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: because of that, because you felt like that was you

1051
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: like come like you know about it. During the Oakley situation, yeah,

1052
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: you were you. You didn't even know it was him

1053
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: at first because one the other side, give me, give me,

1054
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: give me your take of of of the Charles Oakley

1055
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: at the garden, right, So we're you know, I know,

1056
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: he's one of my first veterans playing in Chicago. So

1057
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I see a skirmers going on. We're literally at the

1058
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: other side. I'm like, man, what's going on in the crowd.

1059
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: Of course they get into they get louder, and I'm like,

1060
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: what's going on? So we look. I didn't know it

1061
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: was oak until he was in the tunnel going out.

1062
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: I saw people trying to escort him out. That's when

1063
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that was OK. But up into

1064
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: that point, I didn't know because we couldn't see over

1065
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: there was that. One of the craziest things that had

1066
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: to be one of the craziest things. But you gotta

1067
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: remember I was in the whole run our tests tackling

1068
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Brad Miller, tackling Shock and Shack trying to hit Brad Mill.

1069
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: I was on the bench for that. Like, I've seen

1070
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: some crazy things, but that's probably been the craziest. What

1071
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: what was openly like as a team and you're a

1072
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: young dude. Believable? What was his deal? He was he

1073
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: was going to tell you the truth. He's the truth teller.

1074
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna tell you the truth. But he was never

1075
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna let anybody mess with you ever. We used to

1076
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: go to football games together. He would cook force, we

1077
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: go to eat together. Just teach you how to be

1078
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: a prom You're supposed to wear a suit, Like, what

1079
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: do you mean to wear? Suit? Like I'm in this

1080
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: hip hop here like no where suit You're gonna be professionally,

1081
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: look at you differently where Like he just taught me

1082
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: how to be a professional. Yeah, I mean because him.

1083
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: Rick Brunson, I had some really good veterans Kendall gil

1084
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: Fred Hoiberg. I had some really good veterans. Scottie Pippen.

1085
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Brunson's son plays for Villanova. Right, it's just like him

1086
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: as a kid. Same thing with Tim Hardaway Jr. I

1087
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: used to shoot with him when he was eight nine

1088
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: years old. Are you serious? That's that's crazy. So these

1089
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: dudes like you, you know, Tim Hardaway is no joke,

1090
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: Tim Jr. And you you you gotta be like, yo, sorry,

1091
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta bring it to you. Yeah, they

1092
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: know that, and you know, and I know they're coming

1093
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: up too, so that I know they're coming. But Brunson

1094
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: Sun I seen. I was like, yo, that you can do.

1095
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to hear it. I saw his

1096
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: last so the way he looked, I was like, yeah, yeah,

1097
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: I shoot with Jack all the time. All right, l A.

1098
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Clippers playoffs are coming up. You guys are playing your

1099
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: best ball. Yes, at the right time. People are getting healthy. Yes,

1100
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: Chris looks sprightly. Yes, Blake's back. Everybody's back, extep Austin.

1101
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: That's the only one and we'll get him back soon enough. Yeah.

1102
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: Where where's your head at? With this Western Conference? I

1103
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: feel like when we're at our best and we're playing

1104
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: like we play, we can play with anybody. We're proving

1105
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: that our team right now is peaking at the right time.

1106
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: We didn't want to peak too early. And we've been

1107
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: through adversity because we started the year fourteen and two,

1108
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: but it was no adversity with fresh out of camp.

1109
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like, hey, this is fresh again.

1110
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: We ain't seeing you guys and forever now we've hass

1111
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: an adversity and now we're still bouncing back looking like

1112
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: that are better. So we're we're excited about whatere we're going.

1113
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: Do you you like sort of being under the radar

1114
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: because for like this year the playoffs, it's like Oklahoma

1115
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: and hard I get it. Yeah, but we're under the

1116
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: radar and we we're good with that. You taught jazz

1117
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: in the first round. Yes, I say it again to

1118
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: tough team, tough arena, tough arena. It's like they're they're

1119
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: they're stacked up on top on top of you. And

1120
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: then the thin air of the altitude, Like, yeah, is

1121
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: the altitude thing? Is that real? What's your I've seen you,

1122
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: tweeted Russell Westbrook, this is my opinion on the m

1123
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: v P. Okay, Jamal, I'm gonna give you my opinion.

1124
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: You're three times six Man of the Year winner in

1125
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: contention six Man of the Year this year. Yeah, but

1126
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: it's always I can always tell the momentum in the field.

1127
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: I can name some guys who are having great seasons

1128
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: instep for Eric Gordon Houston's kind of feel good stories

1129
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: the first time off the bench here. He might he'll

1130
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: be right there if he does get it. I think him. Obviously,

1131
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: Lowin is playing great. He just went over there. I

1132
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: don't know how they'll do that with him kind of

1133
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: being half year of the team that wasn't as good. Um,

1134
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: you know who was underrated at the six Mazes playing

1135
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: grace James Johnson. I think he's had a great year

1136
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: in Miami. Yeah, he's been good. You tweeted Russell Westbrook MVP.

1137
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: Does it really make a fucking difference, Jamal? Do you

1138
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: think that Dirk sits around looking at his m v

1139
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: P the year he was eliminated by the Warriors? Do

1140
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: you think Steph is sitting there polishing his unanimous m

1141
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: v P when he lost. Do you think Charles Barkley

1142
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: is sitting there going VP that was great but we

1143
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: lost in the finals. Talk about change in the NBA.

1144
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: When you first came in the league, the m v

1145
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: P would be it would be given and that would

1146
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: be beginning. It's a season long pageant. It's like a

1147
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: campaign literally from November. Yeah, because now everything is now,

1148
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: everything is kind of social media driven everything. I'm seeing

1149
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: people like Bill Gates with social media. So my point

1150
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: is it makes the world a lot smaller. When it

1151
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: makes the world a lot smaller, things get more attention.

1152
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's faster. Think about it. Before you

1153
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: say a writer wrote something bad about you, yes happen,

1154
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: you have to go to a whole another writer to

1155
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: say this is what really happened. Or hold another TV show.

1156
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: You got hundreds of thousand, You can hold your own

1157
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: press conference at your own phone, do it all the

1158
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: time exactly. So now it's just a different it's a

1159
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: different world. But do you think this there's too much impotence.

1160
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: The point that I'm making it creates excitement. So now

1161
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: if you're in China, if you're in don't forget it's

1162
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: the business of basketball. Get that. It gets more people involved,

1163
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: It gets more people to fill a party, get more

1164
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 1: people engaged and looking at this and watching this. They're

1165
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: they're giving out the m v P award that these

1166
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: guys are busting their ass for now June two months

1167
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 1: after after I'm not really feeling that, and I don't

1168
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: care what anyone says, and you probably agree me because

1169
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: you're in the same conference. But as a basketball fan, okay,

1170
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: see ain't winning jack Bone. They'll be lucky to make

1171
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: it out a first round and Houston ain't making it

1172
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: to the finals. So what the point is that thing is? Like,

1173
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: what difference does it make? Who the hell wins this

1174
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: m v P and why are they giving it out

1175
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: two months after the fact. When James Harden's tears are

1176
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: gonna be wiped away, Russell Westbrook's tears are gonna be

1177
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: wiped away, They're both going to be vacations, decompressed, and

1178
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: at two months you kind of start thinking about next season, right,

1179
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why they're doing it too month things.

1180
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: Don't you think it would add fuel to the fire

1181
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: as a fan, you're a fan if you give given

1182
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: to the Friday night you take the votes, and then

1183
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: and then when they got to play Game one, like

1184
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: Harden thing, oh you want m v P and who

1185
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: knows it may go back to that and allow him

1186
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: to accelebrate either one. Whoever wins it in front of

1187
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: their home fans, and like, I don't know why then

1188
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: think there's never gonna be like that, Mom, you're the

1189
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: real M v P or that emotional Derrick Rose speak.

1190
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, it takes that emotion out of it for sure.

1191
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: Two months from now, it's literally two months and you've

1192
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: watched other teams when your team's lost. Neither one of

1193
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: those teams are making it to the finals of the

1194
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: Western Conference. I'll bet my house on it, you're gonna knock.

1195
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: Would you bet your house that you wouldn't see a

1196
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: person average triple double? Because I would, you would. You

1197
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: would have never predicted there's no way in this league.

1198
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: How impressive is that? It's out of this world? Why

1199
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: because when Oscar did it, the pace they're playing at,

1200
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: if you translate that to the numbers West Rooking, like fifties,

1201
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: sixteen and eleven, you'd average, you'd average a fourth, you'd

1202
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: average a four poll double. The disrepected those guys not

1203
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: at all. There's only ten or twelve teams then, and

1204
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't fully integrated, which is the which is the

1205
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: thing that no one talks about. There was a pro

1206
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: there was a pro quote on black players and just

1207
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: with these athletes today. And I'm not saying the game

1208
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: is it's changed, it's changed the evolution of man. I

1209
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: just didn't think it was Ryan Scalabrini, your boy from Seattle,

1210
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: he would average a triple double back then. I'm saying

1211
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: that DeAndre Jordan's would have been he would have made

1212
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Bill Russell null and void. Okay, but it's just it's

1213
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 1: just it's not about it's just the era. It's the time.

1214
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: It's the evolution of man. How much would shack of

1215
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: average in n they would have to shut the league

1216
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: down there like this is this is unfair, Like this

1217
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: is a joke. Basketball would have stopped. I just never

1218
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: thought I would see somebody average triple double on this here.

1219
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: So to do that and not only average shop will

1220
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: double lead the league and scoring while you're doing it incredible.

1221
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: I almost need to drop this mic, Like there's no

1222
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: drop that. I won't drop it, but that, like, are

1223
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: you serious? What about James Harden though, don't don't you

1224
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: think he should? I think he should win Most Improved

1225
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: Player because he went from being the most reluctant passer

1226
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: I've ever seen to leading the league and assists. That's

1227
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: most Improved player, and your boy, Lebron m a P

1228
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: most Erican player. I love because I know you're not

1229
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna go down these roads, like definitely not going down

1230
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: these roads with you. Even though I would say Hardeness

1231
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: has definitely become more dangerous being the point guard, and

1232
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming either, like him being a

1233
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: point guard. But he's he's took it too, he's had it.

1234
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: He's make no mistake. One person's success doesn't mean another's failure.

1235
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: So just because if Westbrook does win, it doesn't mean

1236
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: harden to have an epic seasondiculous, doesn't mean Chris and

1237
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: Blake aren't have an m v P type seat or

1238
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: chair or on whoever. It just means this guy was

1239
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: for this season, he was out of this world. Yeah,

1240
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, And I mean, I like

1241
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: to break chops, but all these guys Kauai. You know Lebron,

1242
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: what he's done, I mean is and and he's my

1243
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: number one dude who I like to to break his chops.

1244
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: But what he's done with that team, that that team

1245
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 1: would be the Brooklyn Nets without him. The top five

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Speaker 1: player all time already, period period. Who's your top five

1247
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: now if you had to make it here, let's do this.

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01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: Let's do this. I'm gonna take this from from nineteen

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01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: seventy forward, so I want to exclude respectfully anybody Bill Russell,

1250
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: Oscar Robertson, and I don't want you to feel guilty.

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01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say from Okay, but I'm just I'm just

1252
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: saying respectfully because I feel like people feel like they

1253
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: have to say that, and I don't think that's so

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01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy forward, your top here. Let's do this,

1255
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: your top eight players, but they have to be in position,

1256
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: so you have to like in position or do you

1257
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: want to your top eight players? Let me ask you this,

1258
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna watch your face right now. I'm watch

1259
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the blink tests. Who's better Lebron

1260
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: or Kobe? No, no reaction, I'm not seeing anybody, no blink,

1261
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: no Bron script still being written. Okay, okay, fair enough,

1262
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: But Kobe, Kobe's my dude. I love Kobe. I'm just

1263
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: saying it's fun. I'm not a personal attachment to Kobe

1264
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: because he's the closest thing to Jordan will ever see

1265
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: style mentality scorn ability, elk everything. I agree, and Kobe

1266
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: is my dude. Funk with Kobe, But Lebron they're two

1267
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: different apples and oranges. They're like Magic and Jordan. Right,

1268
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: I agree, All four of those guys are my list.

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: By the way, who Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Lebron, Kareem. You know. Five.

1270
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: That's five. I'm gonna tell you when people don't give

1271
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: enough credit to and he might be up there, Chimlaja

1272
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: one the dream, He's so silly. That's six. You know

1273
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: we should do this lesson excluding Jordan. It's like it's like,

1274
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: like why why even have a list because everybody like

1275
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Jordan's To be fair, I would have to go through

1276
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: everybody else because I mean, I love Isaiah. I think

1277
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: it's the best little guy of play. Yeah, I love Isaiah.

1278
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: I think birds up there the legend. So I don't know,

1279
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: there's so many great places, but Jordan to me is

1280
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: the best player. I agree, I agree, I agree. I

1281
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: mean Jamal I hated the man as a nick fan,

1282
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: but that was really loved. It's confused admiration and I

1283
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: hated him and I was clear on what it was.

1284
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: I can say now it's confused with admiration. When's the

1285
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: best player when you say apples and oranges? Period, he

1286
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: is the best so right now. But out of all

1287
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: those players, you name the only person from the current

1288
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: generation and I agree their scripture, Sha Shack Daddy doesn't

1289
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: get his proples like he should. I think we don't

1290
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: give Shack his props like he should because he's on

1291
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: TV and we just took you see him so much,

1292
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 1: he's taking taken for granted. It's like you you think

1293
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: he's like this jolly. He was a freaking the most

1294
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: dominant player I've ever seen. When you're going to get Shack,

1295
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: do you want to stay out of his way? Period?

1296
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever got both sides? You don't want to

1297
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: go in there? He may value like a grown like man,

1298
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: Like don't you can get hurt? Yes? Period? Like he's

1299
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: like a dangerous person, Shack is. But he's on TV

1300
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: so much and he's fun going and he's fun loving.

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01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: He's easy going, so you don't give his props like

1302
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: we should. All right, I don't know what else I

1303
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: could do. Man, this has been great. We're gonna have

1304
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: to do part two. Yeah, we gotta do parts I mean,

1305
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: there's so much stuff here Jamal Crawford thirty seven, but

1306
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: looks twenty seven. How would you be if you know

1307
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: how you were to be based on how you feel?

1308
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm great. Health tips by Jamal Crawford.

1309
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: Water stretching, maintenance, no alcohol, no drugs, period, no stress.

1310
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: Who's got the best hairline in the NBA? I say,

1311
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: Paul George, yours is fantastic. Your thirty seven. Yes, I

1312
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: mean that's a mean hairline you got right there. But

1313
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: I look at Paul George and I'm like, that is

1314
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: that's just intimidating that it's down by the forehead. Mean,

1315
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: it's almost too low. But you know what, I'd rather

1316
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: take too low than too high. You can't even in

1317
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: the middle. I'm saying, yours is official. Your thirties seven

1318
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: look twenty seven year old. And people didn't think I

1319
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: can grow my hair out. I can grow out however

1320
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: I want. It's just I didn't have the patience for it.

1321
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: But I grew out this year, cut it and I'm

1322
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: growing it back. Jamal Crawford, I'm wishing you so much

1323
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: luck in the playoffs. I'm wishing the Clippers luck in

1324
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Shocked the world six Man of the Year,

1325
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: three times Hip Hop offici the oldest to win it

1326
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: at thirty four, came back and win again at thirty six,

1327
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: oldest to ever win any major award. This isn't this

1328
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: is And that's just the beginning. I predict you're gonna

1329
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: I think, I predict you're gonna be playing, barring any

1330
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: bad injuries, forty two years old. You're gonna be like

1331
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: one of those freaks. You're gonna be like forty two. Like,

1332
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: I see five more years in you. Five more years?

1333
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: Would you want to do five more years? Because you

1334
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 1: know what, the day I leave, I'm gonna be playing

1335
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: in l A Fitness anyway. I love it. Yo. You

1336
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: imagine you show up to l A Fitness and do it,

1337
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: now do it? And you just playing like I'll just

1338
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: play and you got to get the business from Jamal Crawford.

1339
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: That's part of the deal. Forty two years old, that's

1340
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: my prediction. That would be five more years. It's not

1341
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: one this year. I just signed this last time, I

1342
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: signed three year deal and this year is already gone,

1343
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: like we have one game left. The seasons over right, No,

1344
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: there's no reason why you can't play. You forty two,

1345
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: be timeless, forty two look thirty two. Jamal Crawford, my

1346
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: man that would do this,