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Speaker 1: On this episode of Newts World, former President Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: continues to be persecuted, smeared, and maliciously defamed like few

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Speaker 1: other Americans in history. In twenty twenty, the film crew

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Speaker 1: set out to make a documentary that told the other

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Speaker 1: release The Trump I Know, in the midst of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty election, Big Tech did everything within their power

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Speaker 1: to keep it from being seen. Sadly, many people have

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Speaker 1: never even heard about the film due to the extreme

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Speaker 1: censorship agenda. So this time, the filmmakers are coming straight

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Speaker 1: to you with a virtual red carpet rally streaming live

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Speaker 1: from Las Vegas on August twenty seventh. You can reserve

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Speaker 1: your spot now by going to t tikfilm dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's ttikfilm dot com. I'm really pleased to welcome my guest,

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Speaker 1: Matthew theater, writer and director of the film The Trump

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Speaker 1: I know, Matthew, Welcome and thank you for joining me

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Speaker 1: in newts World.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, mister speaker. It's an honor to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with making movies. I think I

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Speaker 1: read my first book on being a director when I

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Speaker 1: was in fourth grade, and I'm curious, how did you

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Speaker 1: get into filmmaking.

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Speaker 3: It was just one of those things where I really

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Speaker 2: I actually wanted to be an animator.

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Speaker 3: I saw A ladin when I was thirteen years old

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Speaker 3: And so I pursued that for a while, and then

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Speaker 3: grew up and I realized that I could still pursue

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Speaker 3: I met my second wife, and in the middle of

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Speaker 3: blending families, we began to pursue making movies, and so

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Speaker 3: doing shorts and winning film festivals, and then did a

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Speaker 3: friends of ours got a hold of this Trump I

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Speaker 3: Know project, they asked me to come in and direct

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Speaker 1: Well, I noticed on your sort of modest when you

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Speaker 1: just having one occasionally. You've won fourteen Telly Awards for

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Speaker 1: your scripted and documentary work, as well as multiple directing

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Speaker 2: Well it does. Like my dad always said, you just

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Speaker 2: let other people brag on you.

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Speaker 1: How did you get involved with the Trump I know.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because it kind of came about because

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Speaker 3: I was the behind the scenes director on a film

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Speaker 3: which is the true life story of Abby Johnson, who

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Speaker 3: he started hearing all of these amazing stories of behind

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Speaker 3: Joe's like, how is it that I know more about

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Speaker 1: Ironically, you weren't originally a Trump supporter, right.

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Speaker 3: No, Actually, I didn't vote for him in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: One of the things the film does that I think

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Speaker 3: Well, we started with Laura, and Laura is just amazing,

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Speaker 1: So was there any common theme when they would talk

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Speaker 1: So when you produce this and you were ready during

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Speaker 3: Well, it was interesting because we produced this documentary about

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Speaker 1: In my sense is you're going to see just an

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Speaker 3: that there's just a distaste around Hollywood right now that

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Speaker 3: I think is going to be hard for them to

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Speaker 1: People looking forward, it seems to me are going to

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Speaker 1: have an amazing range of choices, and you'll probably end

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Speaker 1: up with lots of relatively small markets looking at films that,

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Speaker 1: by comparison with the big producers, with films that are

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Speaker 1: dramatically less expensive to create. And so you're going to

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Speaker 1: have a churning kind of experience for a while where

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Speaker 1: it may become almost a golden age of creativity.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I one hundred percent agree. And I think especially

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Speaker 3: with some of the guilds and the unions having some issues.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was talking to somebody within the SAG

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Speaker 3: that was kind of basically trying to create a union

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Speaker 3: so things are starting to kind of eat themselves there,

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Speaker 3: and so it's kind of really harkening back to that

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Speaker 3: time in filmmaking history where you know, you have the

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Speaker 3: George Millie and you know some of these old filmmakers

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Speaker 3: that were just trying to figure things out how do

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Speaker 3: we tell stories visually? And so there was just this

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Speaker 3: amazing creativity like you're talking about. I think we're walking

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Speaker 3: back into that. And I think that there's always going

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Speaker 3: to be the summer blockbusters and the big movies. But

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Speaker 3: you know, when you build a model based on like

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Speaker 3: we have to create a three hundred million dollar movie

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Speaker 3: and then put three hundred million dollars into marketing to

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Speaker 3: get it to market, and we're doing that six times

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Speaker 3: a year, you know, I think that's kind of unsustainable

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Speaker 3: at some point. And really I think the model like

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Speaker 3: you were mentioning, where it's like, well, let's make a

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Speaker 3: smaller project, you know, like let's do a fifteen million

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Speaker 3: dollar movie Sound of Freedom that you know, we put

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Speaker 3: five million dollars worth of marketing into and then it,

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Speaker 3: you know, explodes. There's that independent model, and so I

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Speaker 3: think that, like you said, I think there's going to

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Speaker 3: be a real opportunity for those types of smaller projects

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Speaker 3: to make fiscal sense for some of these investors.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you one last week, which is some

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Speaker 1: young person who's listening to us and they think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. What's your advice to them about whether they

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Speaker 1: should get into movies and if so, how do they

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Speaker 1: do it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I love that question because I actually have

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Speaker 3: taught a lot of filmmaking classes, and so I've gotten

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Speaker 3: that question quite a bit. My answer to that question is, one,

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Speaker 3: find a way to get onto a film set in

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Speaker 3: any shape or form, preferably you know, over a couple

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Speaker 3: of days schedule. Like so if it's a short film,

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Speaker 3: or maybe you can you know PA, which is a

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Speaker 3: production assistant on something that came into town, you know,

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Speaker 3: some low level and then try your hand at it

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Speaker 3: and see if you like the schedule, see if you

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Speaker 3: like like being on set, because it's not for everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of it seems glamorous, but it's a lot

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Speaker 3: of work. But if you can withstand being on a

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Speaker 3: set and kind of go and you know, gung ho

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Speaker 3: for a couple of days or a week at a time,

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Speaker 3: and you get off of that and you're like, oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, that was amazing and I feel energized, then

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Speaker 3: absolutely it's the thing for you to do. And then

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Speaker 3: you find somebody that can mentor you. There's lots of

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Speaker 3: amazing resources out there. Ask questions, get curious, start just

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Speaker 3: making stuff, Start making stuff and entering it into film

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Speaker 3: festivals and put it in front of people. I mean

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Speaker 3: YouTube and rumble or amazing platforms now where you can

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Speaker 3: put stuff out, try things out, ask people, you know

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Speaker 3: what you did well, what you didn't do well, and

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Speaker 3: then just continue to do what you did well. And

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Speaker 3: then you know, you just keep doing it. And so

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Speaker 3: that's kind of a real short answer. I probably have

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Speaker 3: a longer answer if we had more time, but you

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Speaker 3: know that's a real short answer.

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Speaker 1: Well, for the longer answer, they should take your.

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Speaker 2: Class right exactly.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Listen, Matt, I want to thank you

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