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Speaker 1: the Draymond Green Show. This is our third episode of
Speaker 1: season two and I think we rolled in right now.
Speaker 1: We have Steven Eon last week. I hope everybody enjoyed
Speaker 1: that episode as much as I enjoy holding the interview.
Speaker 1: It was very fun sitting in the opposite seat of
Speaker 1: Stephen A and asking him all the questions you want
Speaker 1: to ask. We all know what Stephen they does on TV,
Speaker 1: so I thought that was dope. And this week we
Speaker 1: got the one and only the first six man that
Speaker 1: was really making six Man popular. And then lou Will
Speaker 1: came in and took it to another level. Jamal Crawford,
Speaker 1: we have him on this week's show, who's also a
Speaker 1: new a new teammate of mind on the turn the
Speaker 1: side of things. As we all know, he's he's returning
Speaker 1: now he's on the Tuesday Show. I think it's so
Speaker 1: great to see someone that loves basketball, that knows the
Speaker 1: game as well as Jamal on TV because he just
Speaker 1: has that He's Jamal Crawford still has the love that
Speaker 1: a child has for the game of basketball. Like you
Speaker 1: go through all this stuff, man, you go to college,
Speaker 1: you go through NBA and the challenges, right, they can
Speaker 1: lessen your love, it can make it more of a
Speaker 1: business for you. And even someone like Jamal Crawford, whose
Speaker 1: career maybe didn't end quite the way he wanted to
Speaker 1: end um still has that adolescents love for the game
Speaker 1: of basketball, and I think that's always refreshing. So to
Speaker 1: have that on your TV screen every week, I hope
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Speaker 1: me get into this week's put the Show, which is
Speaker 1: number one as we all know, to go to State Warriors. Myself,
Speaker 1: my wife, who I was actually extremely happy was able
Speaker 1: to attend with me. We went to the White House
Speaker 1: yesterday and it's my second time back. Although I've won
Speaker 1: four championships as you all know, we didn't have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to go in two thousand and seventeen and two
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. Now you know, they'll say, hey, they
Speaker 1: weren't invited. Um quite Frankly, it's cool to say, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not invited after you say you're not going, Like,
Speaker 1: if that's what makes you feel good, then great, And
Speaker 1: that's kind of what happened to us. So I don't
Speaker 1: think it was quite because we weren't invited I think
Speaker 1: we turned down the option and then we're not invited
Speaker 1: became a thing. But quite frankly, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: go those years anyway. Although the experience of going is
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible, but as you know it, experiences are also
Speaker 1: made by the people that you attend them with, and
Speaker 1: so our experience yesterday was absolutely incredible. Um. The hospitality
Speaker 1: that President Biden um our VP Harris, um Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: by the way, Um, the hospitality that they showed us
Speaker 1: was absolutely insane. I mean from the band that they
Speaker 1: I mean they had a few instruments from the band
Speaker 1: playing on the first floor when we walked in, went
Speaker 1: up the stairs and it was a full band playing
Speaker 1: and and they're playing we are the Champions when we
Speaker 1: walked up, and then just the different tools that they
Speaker 1: were playing. Uh, the outfits almost looked like the Nutcracker outfits.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they probably were the Nutcracker outfits. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was such an incredible experience and everybody
Speaker 1: were so nice, they were so open. I'd say, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you meet the President of the United States, the
Speaker 1: Vice President of United States is going to take the cake.
Speaker 1: But one of the most interesting people that I had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet. I was President Biden's hand speech
Speaker 1: writer nine, and he was so informative any question that
Speaker 1: I asked. I actually had the opportunity to speak with
Speaker 1: him at dinner a little while the night before our
Speaker 1: visited after the game and just asking different questions, and
Speaker 1: it was such an incredible experience, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: for me personally, I enjoyed it because I didn't ask
Speaker 1: the questions from Uh, you're doing this wrong, You're doing
Speaker 1: that wrong? Are you doing this right? I'm more so
Speaker 1: I asked these questions from essentially from a dumbfounded space,
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to know these answers. I didn't
Speaker 1: have it opinion on this, So my questions weren't framed
Speaker 1: a certain way because I had an opinion on certain things,
Speaker 1: just things that I wanted to know. And he and
Speaker 1: he shared things that um, I won't share on here,
Speaker 1: but that we're really really enlightening to me. Enlightening to
Speaker 1: me and also very informative, like I felt like I learned. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, conversation started, we were standing. We probably stood
Speaker 1: there for an hour and twenty minutes, just my Steph, Steph,
Speaker 1: myself him. Uh, Steph's god brother Si actually works on
Speaker 1: his speech writing team, which was absolutely incredible. Um Chris
Speaker 1: who worked in the Obama administration, and just asking questions
Speaker 1: and the willingness to answer those questions, we're absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: So I want to thank for Night for the experience
Speaker 1: and things that he shared and taught as well, because
Speaker 1: that was absolutely amazing. He actually introduced me to President
Speaker 1: Biden's head advisor on the Ukraine Russia War, which I
Speaker 1: had some questions for her as well, and she answered
Speaker 1: those questions. You know, in politics sometimes we watched these
Speaker 1: things on TV and you don't really know what to believe,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know. You look at one station
Speaker 1: they're saying this. You look at the next station they're
Speaker 1: saying something totally different. And so just to be able
Speaker 1: to get that first hand insight was absolutely amazing to me.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, for you Michigan fans out there,
Speaker 1: I said the head strategists on the Ukraine Russia War
Speaker 1: for President Biden that I had the opportunity to make
Speaker 1: meet Michigan stay sparked and that had to be one
Speaker 1: of the highlights. My wife's obviously is spartan, so for
Speaker 1: us to meet her and I some questions and had
Speaker 1: that Spartan green Blood at the White House was absolutely
Speaker 1: amazing and and it was really a highlight. And so
Speaker 1: those were some of the best people that I met.
Speaker 1: And don't don't get me wrong, we met incredible people.
Speaker 1: I think the job that they've done on putting an
Speaker 1: administration together, the people that they have around. One thing
Speaker 1: that I was really I was really impressed with is
Speaker 1: the youth that they have in their administration. Like you know,
Speaker 1: everyone looks at President Biden's age, and you know his
Speaker 1: age is getting up there, but I think to have
Speaker 1: so much youth around, I think for me as an
Speaker 1: American citizen myself, that was very comforting because you know,
Speaker 1: so many times you get into politics and and people
Speaker 1: are much older, and how do they relate to what
Speaker 1: a twenty four year old thinks just four year old
Speaker 1: of American things. But to see that there was so
Speaker 1: much youth up um within the administration, it's very comfortable
Speaker 1: to know that they're getting that perspective. And it's not
Speaker 1: just the perspective of some sixty year old or some
Speaker 1: fifty year old, although fifty years and old, I don't think,
Speaker 1: but it's a totally different perspective coming from generations in
Speaker 1: the youth that they had around. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a huge thing As an American. I left there and
Speaker 1: was like, wow, that that's great. Like that that made
Speaker 1: me feel like my point of view will be heard,
Speaker 1: my voice will be heard because they're all right in
Speaker 1: the trenches if you will, of life that we're all in.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thirty two years old. There's thirty year olds,
Speaker 1: there's twenty eight year olds. There's I met some twenty
Speaker 1: four year olds. Like it's just so to have those
Speaker 1: different perspectives around in the White House, I is absolutely incredible. Um,
Speaker 1: within this, I want to give you behind the scenes
Speaker 1: look of just how it all went down. The transportation.
Speaker 1: We took two buses arriving. Uh. Busses get searched, they
Speaker 1: come on. You're not allowed to get off the bus
Speaker 1: until your I d s are checked. It's not like
Speaker 1: you're getting off the bus and they're checking them outside
Speaker 1: of the bus. Uh. It is as tight as you'd imagine. UM.
Speaker 1: And then you enter those gates of the White House
Speaker 1: and it's like wow, Like it produced no less of
Speaker 1: a feeling than it produced the first time we went
Speaker 1: in two thousand and fifteen, and you know, to see
Speaker 1: how tight the security is, how dialed in they are,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, like two to understand how high of a
Speaker 1: level that they're working at. They're protecting the president, that
Speaker 1: protecting the vice president, they're protecting our constitution, the things
Speaker 1: that they're protecting, and the level that they're working at,
Speaker 1: Like when you walk in. You you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: walk into certain places and and and you feel like
Speaker 1: the security is overdoing something. When you walk in, you
Speaker 1: just know like, no, I need to go about it
Speaker 1: this way. And they make you feel like it's going
Speaker 1: like it's no games and as you'd expect. I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought that was amazing. We got in. One crappy
Speaker 1: part about the day was we had to walk along
Speaker 1: ways because the buses aren't going all the way up
Speaker 1: to the White House, and it was raining. So that
Speaker 1: was the one crappy part. But in saying that, you
Speaker 1: get to the White House and that was great. I know.
Speaker 1: Steve publicly said that some players and coaches had sat
Speaker 1: down and spoke about us in a couple of different meetings.
Speaker 1: I think one was on gun violence, one was on voting.
Speaker 1: I didn't actually sit in those meetings. UM, I know
Speaker 1: Steph was in uh some of the meetings. I know
Speaker 1: Stevens in some of the meetings. I'm not actually sure
Speaker 1: who else was in those meetings, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: some of those was taking places. And quite frankly, when
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to go to the White House
Speaker 1: and you care about some of these issues, what better
Speaker 1: time than to use the access that basketball has given
Speaker 1: you to speak on some of these issues. And I
Speaker 1: thought that was absolutely incredible that you know, guys took
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunity and it wasn't just about showing
Speaker 1: up to be honored, um, for for what you accomplished
Speaker 1: in basketball. My personal experience, my personal experience, like I said,
Speaker 1: was incredible. The one thing that I loved most about
Speaker 1: it was being able to share, uh, that opportunity with
Speaker 1: my wife. My wife, My wife, having the opportunity to
Speaker 1: take a picture and meet Vice President Kamala Harris was incredible.
Speaker 1: My wife in college wanted she she actually wanted to
Speaker 1: pledge a k A. Our vice president is the a a
Speaker 1: k A. And so just for her to share that
Speaker 1: moment um, to to take in that experience, for us
Speaker 1: to take an experience together in our first year of marriage.
Speaker 1: Absolutely amazing. Um. She was very stunning in her all pink.
Speaker 1: Uh what do they call it, Barbie core or I
Speaker 1: think that's that's the term for it. Absolutely stunning. Made
Speaker 1: me look good, which I need and I'll take so
Speaker 1: thank you to my lovely wife, Hazel. Was an incredible
Speaker 1: experience with you, my love. But that was great. Uh.
Speaker 1: The food was great. I actually got a chance to
Speaker 1: go in the kitchen and meet the has chef. The
Speaker 1: food was absolutely amazing. Uh, they had drinks, they had
Speaker 1: I mean the hospitality that they showed for us or
Speaker 1: or showed us hat for us, gave to us was
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. And I tipped my hat to them on that.
Speaker 1: And I was talking to a few people on the administration.
Speaker 1: They were just saying President Biden is really big on hospitality.
Speaker 1: He feels, with someone coming to your house, these are
Speaker 1: the things they should have and that's how he makes
Speaker 1: sure the White House has ran And I think that's
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. H You know, one of the biggest things.
Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about this before on not meeting um,
Speaker 1: not meeting your hero is usually a letdown to go
Speaker 1: to the White House, and it not be laid out
Speaker 1: the right way from a hospitality standpoint, would be like
Speaker 1: meeting a hero and then being a letdown. So super thankful. Uh.
Speaker 1: The way they rolled off the red carpet was a
Speaker 1: great experience. And then also another thing that you love
Speaker 1: is to see the guys and women who's never been
Speaker 1: there before. Um, it's not quite as drastic of a
Speaker 1: difference as a player winning their first championship and someone
Speaker 1: else winning their second or third championship, because I'll tell
Speaker 1: you as someone who's been before, it's still as amazing.
Speaker 1: And another thing, by the way, another touch that was
Speaker 1: really incredible that I was happily I was. We had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to see where the Obama portraits are now
Speaker 1: up in the White House. We had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: see first Lady Michelle Obama's portrait. Absolutely stunned. We had
Speaker 1: a chance to take pictures to see President Obama's portrait
Speaker 1: and to see the portrait of an African American woman
Speaker 1: and an African American man in the White House like that,
Speaker 1: and it's I'm getting chills right now just thinking about it. Um,
Speaker 1: as a as a young African American man, that's something
Speaker 1: that wasn't possible before and so to see that absolutely
Speaker 1: incredible and it's it's just something that you saw and
Speaker 1: you really felt good about. And so overall, um, the
Speaker 1: experience was great. And I have to say my experience
Speaker 1: this time was even better than the experience last time.
Speaker 1: And that's tough, man. Last time we went with President Obama.
Speaker 1: Like just that alone and in itself is like but
Speaker 1: like I said, it's about the people that you're with.
Speaker 1: And I think for me what took the cake was
Speaker 1: just sharing that experience with my wife. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of a quick rundown if you will, of our White
Speaker 1: House visit. Um, I hope you know, if you haven't
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to visit the White House, set up
Speaker 1: a tour um and see what you can see, because
Speaker 1: it's nothing like it. I mean, it is a one
Speaker 1: of a kind of experience. And just knowing all the
Speaker 1: history that that and and all of the decisions that
Speaker 1: are made in one place absolutely incredible. So if you
Speaker 1: get the opportunity, you're in d C. Definitely trying to
Speaker 1: check it out. I promise you you will not regret it.
Speaker 1: And oh, actually, lastly, when President excuse me, when President
Speaker 1: Biden decided that he was gonna take the knee, and
Speaker 1: by the way, I had someone asked me yesterday, like,
Speaker 1: was there any significance in him taking the knee. I'm
Speaker 1: not someone that tries to make something more than what
Speaker 1: it is. What I honestly think it was and thought
Speaker 1: it was was that level of the stage is lifted
Speaker 1: above the riser that we were standing on. So if
Speaker 1: he stands there, he's blocking someone and trying to squeeze in.
Speaker 1: I think would have been even harder than him taking
Speaker 1: the knee at his age and getting up. When I
Speaker 1: saw him getting when when I knew it was trying
Speaker 1: to get up, I actually wanted to step onto the
Speaker 1: riser and help him up. But you're in the White
Speaker 1: House and you don't want to make a sudden movement
Speaker 1: next to the president. So if you kind of look
Speaker 1: at the video, I kind of like start to go
Speaker 1: and I pull it back. Then I reached my arm,
Speaker 1: then I pulled back. Ultimately, I want to help hand,
Speaker 1: to help her hand to our president and make sure
Speaker 1: he's well, and he gets up well. But on the
Speaker 1: flip side of and tackled by the Secret Service, I
Speaker 1: don't think that would have been good, so I stayed back,
Speaker 1: but knowing that my heart was in the right place.
Speaker 1: And then lastly, I'll share this with my experience. I
Speaker 1: had a long conversation with um OUR Vice president um
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, and the gist of our conversation or the
Speaker 1: topic of our conversation was the game chess. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to play chess. Is I've started to learn
Speaker 1: the game and learn, you know, I know what the
Speaker 1: pieces do now, but obviously you know the strategy of it.
Speaker 1: I'm still not quite there yet. But we were speaking
Speaker 1: about chess. She learned how to play chess from her
Speaker 1: uncle as a as a as a small child. And
Speaker 1: I asked her a question, I said, has it which
Speaker 1: sparked ore. We probably still there and talk for twenty
Speaker 1: five or thirty minutes, which is amazing in itself. I said,
Speaker 1: has it been everything that you expected it to be?
Speaker 1: And her eyes lit up and smile from here to here,
Speaker 1: and she said and more. And we went into you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit of what she's experienced, but then we
Speaker 1: went into just life and and and it led us
Speaker 1: to the game of chess and how in life like
Speaker 1: the game of chess it's very much like the game
Speaker 1: of life. There are a bunch of different pieces on
Speaker 1: the board. They all do different things. No, there are
Speaker 1: not equally as important, but the movement of one, the
Speaker 1: protection of one, it's equally as important to the makeup
Speaker 1: of the whole team. And it's just so many lessons
Speaker 1: from life that we spoke about that you can take
Speaker 1: from that in chess. If your can one step ahead,
Speaker 1: you lost in life. You can't just look one step ahead.
Speaker 1: You gotta be four or five moves ahead. And so
Speaker 1: we we we really discussed that and it was great
Speaker 1: and made me want to learn the game of chess
Speaker 1: more so than some of your grand masters out there.
Speaker 1: If you're subscriber listener to the show, please reach out
Speaker 1: because I want to learn. Um, I do understand that
Speaker 1: in life, but I also want to learn the game
Speaker 1: because I need to beat up on Clay Thompson like
Speaker 1: to Jerome has been doing. So that was my experience
Speaker 1: from the White House. I hope you all take the
Speaker 1: chance if you can to go check it out. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That is going to be it for the top of
Speaker 1: the show. But before we get out of here, as
Speaker 1: you can see, the Curtis has been closed, but there's
Speaker 1: an unveiling taking place. What is that unveiling? That unveiling
Speaker 1: is I am sitting in the room that all you
Speaker 1: people complained about me doing a podcast during the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: I am in the great city of Boston, so you
Speaker 1: can see Boston, the city of Boston behind me. And
Speaker 1: as you all know, our listeners that's been here, you
Speaker 1: know those of you that haven't. In your new thank you,
Speaker 1: we love you, hope you stay. But Jackson, our producer,
Speaker 1: is a big time Boston Celtics fan. Well we all
Speaker 1: know that sucks because they lost us in the championship.
Speaker 1: They also lost to us a few weeks ago, now,
Speaker 1: a month ago, about a month ago, a little over
Speaker 1: a month ago. And Jackson today in my in my
Speaker 1: rundown of my topics of what we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: in the show, he puts on there should we make
Speaker 1: a bet on the game? And I couldn't help but
Speaker 1: to think I beat these people in the World Championship.
Speaker 1: He's paid nothing. I just beat these people a month ago,
Speaker 1: pay nothing. Now all of a sudden he wants to
Speaker 1: make a bet when we're coming to Boston. Quite Frankly,
Speaker 1: you know we can win on the floor, celebrated on
Speaker 1: the parquet floor, on the second team in history, So
Speaker 1: we know that. But I'm gonna tell you what he's
Speaker 1: thinking for our listeners out there. What he's thinking is, uh,
Speaker 1: Warriors been struggling a bit. Uh the record on the
Speaker 1: road has been it's a little rough right now, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna sneak a win. So let me sneak a
Speaker 1: win in this beat. But where was that bettering there
Speaker 1: on the NBA Finals? Where was that bat before our
Speaker 1: road record starts sucking? Where was that bad? Then? We
Speaker 1: don't know. So he's trying to take advantage of the
Speaker 1: situation quite Frankly. My out is, I can't bet on
Speaker 1: Warriors games, brother, I can't bet on the NBA games.
Speaker 1: So you just enjoyed as an ale as it's going
Speaker 1: to come. But if you have an apion, we would
Speaker 1: love to hear it. Jackson. I was just thinking a
Speaker 1: new year, new pod, new season. Maybe we could uh
Speaker 1: have a little friendly way during the game. But you're right,
Speaker 1: you can't put on the game. And I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown's hurt right now. I figured we've got to
Speaker 1: even the playing field. You know, Celtics in first place,
Speaker 1: we're struggling on the road, and my Jalen Brown out
Speaker 1: might seem a little bit more fair, you know, But
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, You're right to see how to
Speaker 1: see how the game goes and we'll come back. Question
Speaker 1: for you. I have a question for you. What did
Speaker 1: the Celtics finish the season? UM? In the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: last year? First place? Sounds familiar. That's a right from
Speaker 1: this episode of the Dramond Green Show. There in first place. Again,
Speaker 1: we weren't in first place last year, but guess what
Speaker 1: first place? UM honored to have this next guest. It's
Speaker 1: actually a guy who when I came into the league,
Speaker 1: I came in and I came in talking. I came
Speaker 1: in hot, I came in talking a bunch of junk
Speaker 1: to everybody, and to be honest, a lot of guys
Speaker 1: really didn't embrace me. And it's like from the very
Speaker 1: first time, I would never forget UM. He didn't drop
Speaker 1: me off with a couple of moves as we all
Speaker 1: know he do. I filed, he go to the free
Speaker 1: throw line, and he like embraced me and I and
Speaker 1: that's something that I will never forget because it was
Speaker 1: someone that I've always watched growing up as a child,
Speaker 1: looked up to the way carried himself. And you know
Speaker 1: when when when I said growing up as a child
Speaker 1: and I watch, you're gonna hear this and be like,
Speaker 1: your game don't resemble his. But the the professionalism and
Speaker 1: the way he went about his business and the way
Speaker 1: he carried himself, ums is what I always honored. And
Speaker 1: then obviously dropping fifty like nobody's tomorrow, you gotta respect
Speaker 1: that honor To have his next guest Jay Crossover Jamal Crawford,
Speaker 1: what's up, my brother? Man? That's a heck of introduction. Bro.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can top that, but I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. It takes you back to when you started,
Speaker 1: like starting your journey, and it was at a time
Speaker 1: where you had the day, the leaves and the bets
Speaker 1: right there in front of you, right with the way
Speaker 1: you grind it and the way you can look at
Speaker 1: your eyes see you wanted more. Your goal wasn't just
Speaker 1: to make it to the NBA. Your goal is too
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'll leave my mark, and I mean, looking
Speaker 1: back with what you've done, we got a Hall of
Speaker 1: fame resume now like looking back, you get the hard way,
Speaker 1: like out the mud, and that's to be a party
Speaker 1: and appreciate it and to be a source of I mean,
Speaker 1: if all the kids out there, if I can't do stuff,
Speaker 1: I can't be but you, if you grinding and commit
Speaker 1: to it and put your heart and soul into it,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the magic that happen. So it's def
Speaker 1: to be on here with you. I appreciate that. As
Speaker 1: you know, you come into these interviews and you kind
Speaker 1: of got these lists of questions. And one thing that
Speaker 1: I've learned in doing this is just like you you
Speaker 1: you followed the interviewee, and so you just mentioned something
Speaker 1: about getting it out the mud, and it's something that
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for you for. And
Speaker 1: being from Seattle, uh, the way that you've given back
Speaker 1: to that community and how strong the basketball presence is there.
Speaker 1: You know when you're talking Raynier Beach, your high school,
Speaker 1: you Terence Williams, Kevin Porter, Juior Degen, Murray, like the
Speaker 1: pipeline you go back, you started, you start a program
Speaker 1: in Seattle, like and everything that you're trying to give back.
Speaker 1: Where does that come from? I know, Seattle is a
Speaker 1: hot bed for talent. But where does like you wanted
Speaker 1: to give so much back to that community come from.
Speaker 1: Because I think it's honorable what you do in the community.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I think my sisters told me something
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and it's not as the kids.
Speaker 1: She said, when if you ever come to a money
Speaker 1: or thing, whatever it is, you become a bigger bison
Speaker 1: were So if you were an asshole, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a bigger asshole you were. I give You're gonna give
Speaker 1: more because you have more access to give. And so
Speaker 1: for me, I didn't try to live up to that,
Speaker 1: but she kind of explained to me when I was feeling,
Speaker 1: when I was thinking when I didn't have nothing and
Speaker 1: I had ten dollars, if I saw some on the street,
Speaker 1: we had I give, you know, five on it, And
Speaker 1: like I figured out later, that's just always been in me.
Speaker 1: And so fast forward when I had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: see um the impact he could have, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And Christy did it for me. I don't
Speaker 1: deserve all the credit. He did it for me. And
Speaker 1: I used to work out with him and he was like, man,
Speaker 1: come work out with me. I didn't have his phone number. Dry,
Speaker 1: I didn't have his phone number, I didn't have no contact.
Speaker 1: I never asked him for a dollar. I just wanted
Speaker 1: what he had so bad to just teach me, just like,
Speaker 1: show me how to be a pro He was the
Speaker 1: first person I've seen or an anchor, weights training or
Speaker 1: having a phone. Brother. It's back in ninety six. He
Speaker 1: had a phone roll, and I'm like, oh, that's what
Speaker 1: prose doing. Okay, They're in the best shape to take
Speaker 1: care of themselves, right, And so I'm looking at all
Speaker 1: these things and collected goata and for me, that was
Speaker 1: everything and changed my life. So I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: if I make them to the stake for the next one,
Speaker 1: and the next one was the Row. The next one
Speaker 1: was Isaiah Nader or Terrence or Kevin Porter, Jon Apaulo
Speaker 1: or Ronnie Stucker, whoever it is, all of them make
Speaker 1: it to the NBA. And I take this much part
Speaker 1: locals too, because they became successful, you know, citizens or whatever.
Speaker 1: They chase whatever beings they're chasing. So I knew it
Speaker 1: changed my life, and I knew I wanted to have
Speaker 1: that impact. And now they're doing it, you know, Zach
Speaker 1: Lavini as a kid in ninth grade can call him
Speaker 1: and say, can break down the schooling for me? Can
Speaker 1: I work out? Can I work out with you? Right?
Speaker 1: And those things are light changing, you know So I
Speaker 1: just think that's what makes it difference. It's not the
Speaker 1: crowd in the bucket, man, tality's more kind the ecosystem
Speaker 1: would create. I think that's incredible. Man, you're sitting her
Speaker 1: name and all these guys. I don't think like when
Speaker 1: you start talking, uh, you know, l A, Seattle or
Speaker 1: Chicago's and you say, put a team together from those cities,
Speaker 1: New York, Michigan. Like when you put a team together
Speaker 1: from Seattle, just solf, that team probably can compete with
Speaker 1: any team you could put together in the NBA. Where
Speaker 1: where does that? Where does that come from? Like? How
Speaker 1: did Seattle become that in basketball? To where y'all just
Speaker 1: spewing out talent like that? That damn rain day when
Speaker 1: we out there, we're in the gym, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's always rained up in Seattle. It's always you know
Speaker 1: what outside. So we were definitely just in the gym
Speaker 1: all the time. We blocked in the gym. And and
Speaker 1: for Apollo specifically, I used him as an example because
Speaker 1: he's the last one. He walked the same streets, he
Speaker 1: was in the same community. Said, so it was nothing
Speaker 1: for him to see us all the summer run Come on,
Speaker 1: jump in a run, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: I had I had one run, I had jone. How
Speaker 1: you irvy? Zach Labean, Batist, Nigel Spencer, Harms, Mr Lake,
Speaker 1: Greg Bill Russell, the icon him aside watching I got
Speaker 1: young Pollo back Carol place years old in this run.
Speaker 1: So for him it was nothing to see these things,
Speaker 1: to be exposed to it and then take it further.
Speaker 1: My son, my nephew can like man, I know to
Speaker 1: meet you guys. That's Fallow, that's the high school star
Speaker 1: I can. I can accomplish that one day. He's reading's reachable.
Speaker 1: And Paulo understands that all of us understand our responsibility.
Speaker 1: So we all support each other. Like if I got
Speaker 1: a backpack of the away ten of us are going,
Speaker 1: if Nate Robinson has a bowling tournament tillor us are
Speaker 1: going like and that's just what it is. I think
Speaker 1: that's what makes it special. When I was in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Tim part Way, it was over here. Mike Feelings over here,
Speaker 1: um Jawan Howard's over here. I saw him in a
Speaker 1: gen together, but I didn't see me personally. I didn't
Speaker 1: see too much else. But they really were collacting on stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's what week. God, Now that's incredible. And at
Speaker 1: your at your proram this summer, uh Dejonta who who
Speaker 1: is very prideful and mean, extremely prodely. I love. He's
Speaker 1: a guard version of you with that pride. Hey. I
Speaker 1: love when when I first saw him as a rookie,
Speaker 1: I'm watching him play and I went up to him
Speaker 1: after the game and I said, Yo, we couldn't stop you.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I could do to stop you
Speaker 1: was just Sagal, work on your jump shot, young Feller,
Speaker 1: you work on your jump shot. You're gonna be an
Speaker 1: All Star in this league. And I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1: And we've built the relationship that like I am close
Speaker 1: to Degen, I'm only close to a few guys in
Speaker 1: this league like I'm close to Degen, Like I got
Speaker 1: so much love for him and love seeing him doing well.
Speaker 1: And he made All Star last year. I felt like
Speaker 1: I was that was my first time, you know. But
Speaker 1: at the pro am this summer, he and Paulo and
Speaker 1: being as prideful as he is. You come in this league,
Speaker 1: you the NUMBERNNA pick I need to see that. And
Speaker 1: they had their thing, its fews over the social media.
Speaker 1: Did you have to step into that as as the
Speaker 1: big brother once his fews over the social media and
Speaker 1: talk to them like, hey, man, we ain't doing that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna compete, but at the same time, we gotta
Speaker 1: have each other back, because that's how you keep that
Speaker 1: pipe line and that tightness going. You. What you just
Speaker 1: said was an exact message. I tell you a funny story.
Speaker 1: I was in Dallas because I was coaching my son
Speaker 1: and coaching the kids, and my phone on the plane
Speaker 1: and my phone is like text MESSI is going crazy. Man,
Speaker 1: they got into it. This is now you go too, Jake,
Speaker 1: Princess and step in and I'm like, man, look they
Speaker 1: don't be fine. And I gave I talked to both
Speaker 1: of them the exact same way, the same message you said,
Speaker 1: and they both felt how they felt because they're both competitive.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, who else to
Speaker 1: both phones because they understood the big picture and the
Speaker 1: big and what we've all created, Like you all played
Speaker 1: a party and making this place something special, you know,
Speaker 1: because we're not like other cities. But sometimes you got
Speaker 1: for a dude with your room for them to do
Speaker 1: better than you, you know what I mean. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about form, but I ain't really for
Speaker 1: him that much, you know what I mean? And it's
Speaker 1: different up here. And so they understood the big picture.
Speaker 1: They worked through it and to see both of them,
Speaker 1: you gotta all star in Dejontay, the future, all star
Speaker 1: in Polo in the whole generation of kids following both
Speaker 1: of them, and those two have lived with that responsibilities.
Speaker 1: That's un leave what that's a big brother I love
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, we can have difference. That's what big
Speaker 1: brothers and little brothers do. That's what we do. That's
Speaker 1: just what it is. But we can work through it
Speaker 1: and continue to move forward. Absolutely. I think that's amazing man.
Speaker 1: And just speaking of Seattle, you leave Seattle, you go
Speaker 1: not even gonna mention the school you go to. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. Hold on a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I think I owe you a few from football bat
Speaker 1: years ago, but it's not that's not right now. How
Speaker 1: are you're not gonna mention Michigan? You gotta make are
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna say the word if you don't want
Speaker 1: to Michigan stay something Michigan State. So I got love
Speaker 1: from big on the team. I've seen the team in
Speaker 1: long Peter flint Stones, I acknowledge that you're as I
Speaker 1: got so much love for you and so much love
Speaker 1: for Jalen. And see where yards the list. There's nothing
Speaker 1: for you guys but the school. Oh my god, man,
Speaker 1: it hurts hurt you. You you go off to school
Speaker 1: and right off the bat you get suspended. Um, what
Speaker 1: was your suspension for and what was your mindset once
Speaker 1: you received that suspension. So Drake coming up, I wasn't
Speaker 1: like nobody ever heard about me until I was sixteen.
Speaker 1: So I was a kid. You know, anybody, man, it
Speaker 1: was a kid right now busting his ass at a playground.
Speaker 1: They got to kick him off the court working on
Speaker 1: his game, and you here sleep or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: a coach trying to use his motivation. I was that kid.
Speaker 1: So nobody knew about me. I was sixteen. I'm still
Speaker 1: working on my game. I was in the backyard. I
Speaker 1: was like really getting better. And so once I jumped
Speaker 1: on the scene and I had a lot of making
Speaker 1: up I got. I was in the elg with my
Speaker 1: fresh year high school I and was with my sophomore
Speaker 1: ye highchool. I was in eld with my junior high
Speaker 1: school made varsity as a freshman, doing the wrong things,
Speaker 1: being with the wrong you know, crowd and all that.
Speaker 1: But that's let's stay what happened. I started getting help
Speaker 1: when I moved back to Seattle from l A. And
Speaker 1: that was with tutors with clothes and we don't come
Speaker 1: from nothing. But the help I was getting wasn't from
Speaker 1: like a booster. It wasn't from alumni. I wasn't from
Speaker 1: the au coach. I wouldn't even sing like that. And
Speaker 1: when I went to Michigan. Probably when I went to Michigan,
Speaker 1: they said I broke a law of amateurism and I
Speaker 1: never even heard that. I'm like, go, hold on, this
Speaker 1: guy doesn't fit into any one of those modes. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't just give me money saying here, gonna flash, you
Speaker 1: do what you want to do like this is stuff.
Speaker 1: It's tough for me be a productive young man. And
Speaker 1: so they got suspended. They actually dug into that. So
Speaker 1: I did nothing wrong and I got reinstated. But at
Speaker 1: that point for my name when I put my name
Speaker 1: in the draft. Honestly, I wasn't even putting in the leave.
Speaker 1: I just want to see go through the process the
Speaker 1: next Let me just go through and see what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be up against. At that time at camp, dudes
Speaker 1: were still playing like a toothdudes are still playing away
Speaker 1: there and killed camp and asked what my name. We're
Speaker 1: from second round and not being drafted to now I'm
Speaker 1: a lot of youthing and twin in two days right,
Speaker 1: and so from there it was so cold. I was
Speaker 1: on such like a role. Then they was like, look,
Speaker 1: teams like you even got to work out on you coming,
Speaker 1: Just come talk to Joe did in Detroit. He was
Speaker 1: when I saw Mark Cuban and Dallas like I was
Speaker 1: going in different places and they were just saying, look,
Speaker 1: just talk to us and we'll see what happens. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's what happened. Like it was a dude that
Speaker 1: had nothing to do a basketball. To this day, he
Speaker 1: has nothing to do a basketball and they kicking me
Speaker 1: up for that. That's incredible, man. And now you know
Speaker 1: you look you look, you look at it. You know
Speaker 1: the landscape, these kids getting rich nowadays, which I absolutely love.
Speaker 1: Like you got guys literally going back to school making
Speaker 1: two and three million dollars, which I think is incredible.
Speaker 1: But what what do you actually think of the n
Speaker 1: I L Because you know, as good as it is
Speaker 1: for a kid to go make two three million dollars
Speaker 1: and still be in college, there are some downsides of
Speaker 1: it as well, you know, and and and I don't
Speaker 1: mean downsides as far as like kids having money and
Speaker 1: they can't manager. People have money and can't manage it
Speaker 1: every day, So don't give me the their in trouble
Speaker 1: because they can't manage money. That's that's bullshit. But you
Speaker 1: know where you can't really go for the A list
Speaker 1: um type companies because the school has a deal with them.
Speaker 1: And those different things. What do you make of the
Speaker 1: n I L nowadays? Especially as someone who essentially, I
Speaker 1: mean you didn't even get knocked for you selling your likeness,
Speaker 1: but yet someone that got knocked and faced the n
Speaker 1: c A in a different in a different way than
Speaker 1: most do you. It's crazy that if if if the
Speaker 1: n I L was around years ago, think about how
Speaker 1: many kids would stay in school, Think about how much
Speaker 1: more money to n would have made because now you're
Speaker 1: removing from the pressure of this kid, like, Damn, I
Speaker 1: gotta help provide for my family. Damn, I can't get
Speaker 1: extra money to go to the movie because that's against
Speaker 1: the rules. I ain't got it. Like so if they're
Speaker 1: removing the handle right, the right, you know, parents and
Speaker 1: supports around in this handle right, you can get that
Speaker 1: money and still not being a rush to go to leave.
Speaker 1: You can not being the rustur some of the like.
Speaker 1: You can you can set up shop, depending how much
Speaker 1: it is you make yourself with small business. You can
Speaker 1: be able to set stuff later if basketball doesn't work out,
Speaker 1: but you're not the pressure of my mom's lights and
Speaker 1: then cut off like what we gotta get between paying
Speaker 1: the light bill and my my my sister's stuituation, whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. It removes that pressure, so I think,
Speaker 1: and I am was in a lot of people Chris Lever,
Speaker 1: those guys in the left arm, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like people, I come from from hard, hard beginning, so
Speaker 1: I like it, and like you said, list is downside
Speaker 1: to it too, But like anything, it's how do you
Speaker 1: navigate what it is? Like? Even the NBA writing sports,
Speaker 1: we all know if we weren't in the position that
Speaker 1: we were in, and some things that we may have
Speaker 1: done happened, it wouldn't be a story. But since we're
Speaker 1: in this position and we have this light on us
Speaker 1: instead of we talked about so interested about how you navigated,
Speaker 1: how you're handling. There's no perfect answer, but I really
Speaker 1: love the scene. Man, I have my own student sex
Speaker 1: in the mission. The crowd had their crew section. I'm
Speaker 1: still and I had a head band called the Proper
Speaker 1: Crazy at that time. True story, I'm not saying it's Brady.
Speaker 1: I was let school with Tom Brady. I was more
Speaker 1: popular chemist he was at that time because Drew Hanson
Speaker 1: the quarterback there and he was KNNA like the guy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just crazy to see how things are formulated.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I think, uh, just like Sharon the campus
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and being big like that's mind bone
Speaker 1: in itself. But in the same sense, you're a guy
Speaker 1: that when I had the NBA career that you had,
Speaker 1: you know, a superstar in your own right, and I
Speaker 1: think you know when you look at me, Like a
Speaker 1: lot of things in the NBA as narrative driven, I
Speaker 1: don't think that there's a player in the NBA that
Speaker 1: played with you or against you that did not think
Speaker 1: you were a superstar. But by media terms, like the
Speaker 1: narrative wasn't that Jamal Crawford was a superstar. But there
Speaker 1: wasn't one that had to guard you, that played with you,
Speaker 1: played against you, that didn't think in their mind that
Speaker 1: you're a superstar. You carries yourself like that, you play
Speaker 1: like that, you put up those type numbers and and
Speaker 1: and I just want to say, as an opponent, like,
Speaker 1: but I appreciated you and everything that you brought to
Speaker 1: the game, and most importantly, bigger than anything, the love
Speaker 1: that you brought to the game of basketball. Like people
Speaker 1: played this game and they played for because of what
Speaker 1: it can do for them. And I don't knock those people,
Speaker 1: but the love that you brought to the game of
Speaker 1: basketball and that you showed was good for young guys
Speaker 1: like myself because you get in this league, man, it's
Speaker 1: it's so much going on, and just to see someone
Speaker 1: with a genuine love like it rubbed off on on myself,
Speaker 1: but it rubbed off on a lot of guys. Bro.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say thank you because it
Speaker 1: was absolutely real. I appreciate that yeah, I think when
Speaker 1: I was like, it was like, put, how is that
Speaker 1: gonna work? How you get to lead with that and
Speaker 1: one style of play? Right? And so I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna master. I'm not trying to be fancy.
Speaker 1: I'm really just playing on the instanct. I'm just playing.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna like you see step every day
Speaker 1: right like Steph. I don't think step is trying to
Speaker 1: be fancy or so, He's just playing. He's just in
Speaker 1: his own old That's just how he plays, right, And
Speaker 1: so for me, I just I navigated so much and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to brag whatsoever, but I think I
Speaker 1: kind of help bring the street aspect of it, the
Speaker 1: streetball culture to the league and didn't change, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like some people get to lead, they
Speaker 1: play one way and play around and play one way, right,
Speaker 1: Like for me, I was like, I'm this is who
Speaker 1: I am on the play in l A Fitness or
Speaker 1: twenty thousand people. That's just what it is. So and
Speaker 1: I'm acquired taste. I'm not for everybody. And I get
Speaker 1: that too. I love that because you don't want you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you don't want all the
Speaker 1: same thing, and you bring a whole different aspect to
Speaker 1: the game, right, and so I'm thankful for it. I
Speaker 1: always felt confident in my skills. All he's trying to
Speaker 1: do things the right way. I always loved the game.
Speaker 1: That was always firstly, even being forty years old trying
Speaker 1: to play basketball, it was just love that just pushed me.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: paid an e b A to play an NBA Like
Speaker 1: I just I didn't care about nothing but playing like
Speaker 1: I just love who you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: that's now coaching my son right and doing TV and
Speaker 1: talking the game gives me a whole another life as
Speaker 1: far as like how I feel still connected to the
Speaker 1: game and it's just it's unbelievable. I appreciate you because
Speaker 1: my son held onto the words you told him to
Speaker 1: the finals as well, like you talks about all the time.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that, bro, because to me, to him,
Speaker 1: I'm just dad. So he ain't listen to me, but
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely no, And I you know, I still
Speaker 1: follow along on the internet, like and watch all this
Speaker 1: highlights and anything that I could see young boys, special
Speaker 1: man especial picture. He gets a big picture, Like I
Speaker 1: told him, I look, we're in this space now, they're
Speaker 1: gona you five you want to That's not any game.
Speaker 1: We don't care what it is. Just stay had tun
Speaker 1: invasion and we're playing along and just keep building the
Speaker 1: right way. It's incredible. What do you what do you make?
Speaker 1: I got a couple of cb A questions for you
Speaker 1: because I think one of them really, I think one
Speaker 1: of them really will hit you and it'll be the
Speaker 1: second question. But um, what do you make? Number one
Speaker 1: of the one and done rule? Possibly it's going to
Speaker 1: be changed back, like it's gonna be changed to where
Speaker 1: you can go back out of high school. What what
Speaker 1: are your sentiments around the one and done rule coming
Speaker 1: back or being non existent? I say, yeah, I would
Speaker 1: love to see it done existed like some of the
Speaker 1: greatest players we've ever seen touch of basketball and kids
Speaker 1: that did not go to college, from Lebron James to
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garden, like some of our favorite favorite
Speaker 1: players ever. We're ready, you know, like how we who
Speaker 1: do we to say? All? This guy's not ration? Actually,
Speaker 1: if he is ready, I want him to come living
Speaker 1: from great I want him to come to be around
Speaker 1: but I want him to come be around Staff and
Speaker 1: Joy and all these guys, Weeds and all these guys professional.
Speaker 1: I didn't learn to be a proce. I have pros
Speaker 1: agram when I got the Open, when I got Stu Pitten,
Speaker 1: when I got Rick Brussels, when I got Kindle Deal. Now,
Speaker 1: young fella being on ton of it's being two hours early,
Speaker 1: not even down was after games like dressing the right way,
Speaker 1: to present yourself, the right way him of your business.
Speaker 1: And and I think even if they're not technically quote
Speaker 1: unquote rage and contribute on the court day one, their
Speaker 1: acceleration process would be so much faster. To think about Luca,
Speaker 1: like playing against prose for for years, so many come
Speaker 1: on bro. So when it's now they're actually playing, it's
Speaker 1: proms the transition so much smoothing. But that shock values gone.
Speaker 1: The first time I jumped on the court in the
Speaker 1: pre season, I'm playing against the rail stree well and
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, that's free, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And just stuff, that stuff is gone by the time
Speaker 1: they get there. It is handled the right way. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think that's a song for that's our invaluable.
Speaker 1: That's helped set careers. That's help the next tien or
Speaker 1: fifteen years after they're gone for what you're doing to
Speaker 1: combat to the organization. One hundred were saying, I was
Speaker 1: a guy lucky to have great vests. I had Jermaine O'Neil,
Speaker 1: Jared Jack, David League, Carl Landry Bogan like I had
Speaker 1: guys that really showed me the way, Richard Jefferson, and
Speaker 1: it was huge for me. And that's it's funny that
Speaker 1: you just said that, because it actually leads into my
Speaker 1: next question, which is I personally think and the c
Speaker 1: b A. I think the c b A um hurt
Speaker 1: guys like yourself, Whereas all the teams start going younger
Speaker 1: because the minimums was less and the money was less
Speaker 1: situations exactly, And so teams start going younger and start
Speaker 1: cutting vets out. I think we're now starting to see
Speaker 1: the m the repercussions of that. I talked to Andre
Speaker 1: a few not not long ago, and Andre said, man,
Speaker 1: basketball has gotten so dumb, so fast. And I think,
Speaker 1: and that's in large part due to the c b
Speaker 1: A and vets getting cut out and not being able
Speaker 1: to teach young guys the way. And I also think
Speaker 1: it affected you towards the end of your career, where
Speaker 1: I asked, you can still go out and get twenty
Speaker 1: on any given night and yet not getting signed due
Speaker 1: to a tax situation from a team. So what do
Speaker 1: you make of that? And how the c B a
Speaker 1: kind of start cutting vets out of the league. It's
Speaker 1: this vardening one. And I would have said this if
Speaker 1: I was in my prime, like, because I just know
Speaker 1: the effect that that that's playing. We're invaluable. If if
Speaker 1: I want to be a better photographer, how could I not?
Speaker 1: And I have Andy Burgstein who shoots for the NBA
Speaker 1: and shot for forty years, and I'll mentor you, I'll
Speaker 1: show you the way I'll help you. If I'm going
Speaker 1: to Microsoft and Steve Bombers there at the time, how
Speaker 1: am I and he saying I want to help your
Speaker 1: career those how can we not take that knowledge? So
Speaker 1: now the best that come in, if they're not coming
Speaker 1: to your team or teams that have been around for
Speaker 1: a while, their bet is twenty three. What's the only
Speaker 1: show that twenty year old like we're talking about it's
Speaker 1: hurting basketball because, like you said, and now as a coach,
Speaker 1: especially because I'm sold into it, right, like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: But now as a coach, seeing good basketball is like
Speaker 1: comes from scorn, from me giving up a good one
Speaker 1: to a great one. Seeing the i Q, seeing the read.
Speaker 1: Seeing that, I told my team, I said, man, well
Speaker 1: understand Golden States like organized chaos. They're saying random so much.
Speaker 1: You can't play random unless you have drey Is a
Speaker 1: quarterback and you have Stephanise. Guys make the split second
Speaker 1: decisions where it's almost like it's so random but it's
Speaker 1: so organized. But you can't play that way if you
Speaker 1: don't have a high. You can't play with them. But
Speaker 1: that's the beauty, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: can't it's almost here if you're like with but Tino
Speaker 1: and de Niro in the movie, right, and they got
Speaker 1: a script, but they just started having and they're going
Speaker 1: off each other. That's what the magic happens, the beauty
Speaker 1: in it, right, And that's what you guys do. And
Speaker 1: these young fellows will never understand that they don't have
Speaker 1: vets like breaking down film with them. I have that
Speaker 1: Scotty pipings to watch feel with me, you know, breakdown
Speaker 1: like looks that's what you're looking at and you're looking
Speaker 1: at that you should be looking at it. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: and there's joying that because that's something you've never been
Speaker 1: talking with the ag system now that we care about
Speaker 1: wins and losses to your playday to that not care
Speaker 1: because you're getting so much attention a teen years old
Speaker 1: right like, so it's just a whole like system. I'm
Speaker 1: scared to be honest with you, if bets aren't in
Speaker 1: the game around the game, calling shots and the organization
Speaker 1: with the next ten to fifteen years a look facts, No,
Speaker 1: I agree, man. Just so y'all know listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: there will be a part two because there's no conversation.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of questions for you. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you a couple of question absolutely? Because this is
Speaker 1: we're running this back. I'm not going to even try
Speaker 1: to get there every question over just took the job.
Speaker 1: We gotta do a part two. Question. My question for
Speaker 1: you is, and I'm touring because I know you guys
Speaker 1: have a switch? I do you guys knew it? Are
Speaker 1: you guys going on for that? Like? We know we
Speaker 1: have to switch because what I'm seeing is sometimes you guys,
Speaker 1: like last night, you get the switch and you can
Speaker 1: do it for spurts when you guys have enough energy
Speaker 1: to sustaining and be able to do it. That's part one.
Speaker 1: And then the second part is if you can't get
Speaker 1: that switch, I still have you guys in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I still have you guys, like, so is it the
Speaker 1: regular season versus the playoffs? In that switch? Give me
Speaker 1: inside of the locker room? What's doing? What do you think? Uh?
Speaker 1: I think we definitely know and understand that we have
Speaker 1: a switch. But our struggles this year hasn't been because
Speaker 1: we're not flicking the switch. Um our struggles have been.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is why you are who
Speaker 1: you are. This is why you're great when I watch
Speaker 1: you on TV, and you're going to continue to get better.
Speaker 1: It's because you you can get people to say things
Speaker 1: that they probably wouldn't say to anyone else. And so
Speaker 1: here I am about to say something that I would
Speaker 1: not say to anyone else. Don't forget, which is I
Speaker 1: think a lot of our shortcomings this year is my fault.
Speaker 1: Why is it my fault? Because I have not been
Speaker 1: the leader that I am and that I need to
Speaker 1: be for this team. And the reason that I have
Speaker 1: not been that leader is also my fault, right, Like
Speaker 1: I think we all know what happened with your young
Speaker 1: Wolverine brother, um JP. And so for me, I've kind
Speaker 1: of had to walk a fine line of not really
Speaker 1: being Draymond. And when I'm not really being myself, that's
Speaker 1: not the best thing for this team. And so where
Speaker 1: where we've struggled as accountability and and and and and
Speaker 1: and accountability on the defensive and accountability on offensive, and
Speaker 1: you know, the accountability that it takes to have a
Speaker 1: winning team. And that's my role on this team. And
Speaker 1: I felt short in that area, and there's something that
Speaker 1: that's something that I have to be better at it.
Speaker 1: I have to get back. But when I look at
Speaker 1: our struggles, it's not just because we haven't flipped the switch. No,
Speaker 1: it's because guys haven't been. I be in the number
Speaker 1: one corporate who they need to be and fulfilling their
Speaker 1: roles on this team. And like I said, I'm number
Speaker 1: one because it all starts with leadership. And and although
Speaker 1: I'm not the only leader on this team, that's my
Speaker 1: area of leadership. See I leads definitely andre Lee Clay,
Speaker 1: but we are leading different areas. That's yet and that's
Speaker 1: my area of leadership, and I have felt short there.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's necessarily a um like we're
Speaker 1: just not flipping the switch. I think it's more so
Speaker 1: we have to really dive in on those things, starting
Speaker 1: with me. I have to be better at holding guy's
Speaker 1: accountable and not stay hostage to the preseason situation. You know,
Speaker 1: don't don't let it hold me hostage because in turn
Speaker 1: is gonna hold this team hostage. So I have to
Speaker 1: come out of that, and I've been working to come
Speaker 1: out of that, and I'm starting to turn the corner.
Speaker 1: And I feel like when I turned the corner there,
Speaker 1: it will allow everyone else to turn the corner. And
Speaker 1: so that's what that's what I feel. It's been wrong,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's just a flip, although we
Speaker 1: can't flip it. I don't think it's been that. I
Speaker 1: think it's been accountability and it's all my fault. I
Speaker 1: think what you just said, and that's why you are
Speaker 1: where you are because there's so many stars, superstars, Hall
Speaker 1: of famers who don't hold that accountability, especially self accounting,
Speaker 1: because the most honest moments coming to you and god,
Speaker 1: you know, because you can't lie to you doing and
Speaker 1: what you just here right there is exactly why you
Speaker 1: guys will put this with that's the perfect one in
Speaker 1: part with I don't know what you got going later
Speaker 1: all the night, and we need part to today. I
Speaker 1: don't know what we can do that today. You let
Speaker 1: me know your schedule will hot back on the night,
Speaker 1: but we're still gonna send it out to y'all Part
Speaker 1: one and part two, and just so y'all know we're
Speaker 1: gonna shoot it tonight. I appreciate you, my brother, the
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