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Speaker 2: for you. Rachel zooming in with us today is the

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Speaker 2: Without further ado, you guys please put your hands together

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having educating this Rachel, and

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, you're like used to dealing with people judging, looking, critiquing.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be fun to be out and about

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Speaker 2: you hear this Las nice lead done right there, Rachel,

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Speaker 2: I could just see the people from your area going, yes,

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Speaker 9: I had asked the same question, like, you know, what's

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Speaker 6: Just two years ago, I was a principal investigator of

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Speaker 3: It's really crazy, Rachel.

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Speaker 9: We didn't have a chance to connect on this prior

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Speaker 2: It's really min It's when you think about that, even

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Speaker 2: There's nothing better than it. I loved you so much.

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Speaker 10: Not to bust to God on the show, but Rachel

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Speaker 2: Mary for coming on board before we went to break

442
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Speaker 2: and last segment. We're just talking so much, Rachel. We

443
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Speaker 2: definitely heard what you hated. It seems like maybe possibly

444
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Speaker 2: the most. But what do you love the most about being,

445
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Speaker 2: you know, a first time member of parliament.

446
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Speaker 4: It is such a privilege to be a member of

447
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Speaker 4: parliament and to represent your community. I think the thing

448
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Speaker 4: that I love the most is the diversity of people

449
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: I get to work with. And interestingly, when you're on

450
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Speaker 4: the parliament floor, everyone has their you know, who they represent,

451
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: and they speak of that, but behind the scenes, everyone

452
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: really does collaborate and work together and I think that

453
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Speaker 4: for me, that is what politics is all about. We

454
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Speaker 4: might have different viewpoints, and we might have different ideas

455
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Speaker 4: of how society should be or how we think people

456
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: should operate, but fundamentally we're all there because we care

457
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Speaker 4: about our community and that really does shine through when

458
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Speaker 4: you're working in parliament.

459
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Speaker 2: So you're not like America over here. I feel like

460
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Speaker 2: we're in America. It's just red and blue and they're

461
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: so far left so far right. Working together never seems

462
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Speaker 2: to be the solution anymore. Is what you're seeing in Australia.

463
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Speaker 2: You guys are literally working together no matter what side

464
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Speaker 2: of the aisle you're on.

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Speaker 4: Oh look, there's no doubt about it that you know

466
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Speaker 4: politically people have their alliances, but I think because I'm

467
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 4: part of such a small party, I don't seem like

468
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Speaker 4: a threat to them, so I can collaborate with all

469
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Speaker 4: sides of politics and come to some sort of consensus.

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Speaker 3: And I very much have the attitude that you.

471
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Speaker 4: Shouldn't let what ideals or your perfect ideals get in

472
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Speaker 4: the way of really good collaboration and progress. So even

473
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Speaker 4: if it's not exactly what I ideally wanted to put there,

474
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Speaker 4: it's I'm happy to collaborate and try and move forward there.

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Speaker 3: But no doubt.

476
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Speaker 4: About it, there is your definite left and right side

477
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Speaker 4: of politics.

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Speaker 3: You're very much you're left.

479
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Speaker 4: Leaning, more green orientated sort of politics as well.

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Speaker 3: But we sort of sit in this comfortable position.

481
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Speaker 4: Of we'll collaborate and talk to everybody and we are

482
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Speaker 4: no threats.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a very unique position. I'm in.

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Speaker 2: WHOA love this on your ig. You're a politician, cross

485
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Speaker 2: bench MP for Southeastern Metro, you're a cannabis advocate. You

486
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Speaker 2: also represent the lgb t i Q plus community, sex

487
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Speaker 2: positive norm n AA r M on unseated, I don't

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Speaker 2: even know what that word is country? What is that

489
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Speaker 2: right there? What is the last one?

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Speaker 3: Num is the indigenous name for Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: So num is where we are based in here in

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Speaker 4: underneath the Aboriginal nations.

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Speaker 3: So Warunjuri is.

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Speaker 4: The I think it's war UNDERI is that what it

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Speaker 4: says on the Yeah, it would be numb and we're

496
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Speaker 4: on warundery land. So Warunduri is the land on which

497
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Speaker 4: we are positioned and unseded land. So it's incredibly important

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Speaker 4: for me to represent and it's incredibly important for me

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Speaker 4: to acknowledge that we are on unseded land here in Australia.

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Speaker 2: And so is it all throughout the country that you

501
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Speaker 2: can help get this push to be fully legalized. As

502
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Speaker 2: a parliament member representing your area, are you able to

503
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Speaker 2: push the envelope and push this ballot to go through?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 4: And in Australia it operates a little bit differently to

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Speaker 4: how regulation might operate in the states. So each of

507
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Speaker 4: our states have the regulation over police, over hospitals, over

508
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Speaker 4: any of the service provisions, and we see that as

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Speaker 4: state based regulation would be the way to progress.

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Speaker 3: Our federal government.

511
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Speaker 4: Looks after taxation, so for us, the most important thing

512
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Speaker 4: for us. For us, the most important thing is states

513
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Speaker 4: representing that push forward of regulation. And what we think

514
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Speaker 4: that that would look like is that cannabis would be regulated,

515
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Speaker 4: that there would be no longer criminalization of cannabis, but

516
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Speaker 4: driving laws would reflect that, and then it would push

517
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Speaker 4: the federal government to have to tax it. And we

518
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: see that there is a path way forward there. We

519
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: have representatives in two other states in Australia, so in

520
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Speaker 4: Western Australia and in New South Wales. So the cannabis

521
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: conversation is starting to really reach far and wide and

522
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: we're starting to gain momentum there.

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Speaker 2: How long do you think it'll take.

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Speaker 4: My guess is Victoria will be the first state to regulate.

525
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Speaker 4: I say that because we are having productive conversations with

526
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Speaker 4: the government. I believe that they know it is inevitable,

527
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Speaker 4: but it's about doing it properly and choosing a model

528
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Speaker 4: that is going to be best suited to Australia and

529
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Speaker 4: how we operate in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Interestingly, politically Australia is.

531
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Speaker 4: Quite conservative, so you know, the opening up of the

532
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Speaker 4: market here would have to be taken.

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Speaker 3: I believe in incremental steps.

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Speaker 4: So what we're proposing is that the criminalization of cannabis

535
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Speaker 4: should be removed, that we should expunge those convictions. We

536
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Speaker 4: should allow homegrown particularly for those that are accessing medicinal cannabis,

537
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Speaker 4: or our cares for people on accessing medicinal cannabis. But

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Speaker 4: I think that it will take probably five years to

539
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Speaker 4: seven years, is my thinking.

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Speaker 2: Who do you guys look to out there in Australia

541
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Speaker 2: as I say, look what it's doing here? Is it?

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Speaker 2: You know? Where do you guys use as what do

543
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Speaker 2: you guys use as examples?

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Speaker 4: I think we're in that unique position where there is

545
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Speaker 4: so much regulation and legislation in other jurisdictions all over

546
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Speaker 4: the world that we can start to cherry pick what

547
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Speaker 4: actually has worked and reflect on maybe what wouldn't work

548
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: here in Australia. We're quite interested in looking at more

549
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Speaker 4: of a socially responsible model, looking at social clubs or

550
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Speaker 4: compassion clubs, because we do know in Australia it is

551
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Speaker 4: a hard climate to grow in in.

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Speaker 3: Different parts of Australia.

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Speaker 4: So having that ability to allow an association that you're

554
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Speaker 4: a member of to grow your cannabis is something that

555
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Speaker 4: we have reviewed and we've sort of looked at what

556
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Speaker 4: Malta is doing in that space. We've also looked at

557
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Speaker 4: what happens when you just decriminalize with no movement forward

558
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Speaker 4: of regulation more broadly, and we see that.

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Speaker 3: That has probably created a little bit of.

560
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Speaker 4: A we need to pull it back rather than a

561
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Speaker 4: crude step forward.

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Speaker 3: So if you're looking at places like.

563
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Speaker 4: Thailand, Mary and I both enjoyed the fact that we

564
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Speaker 4: could consume cannabis in Thailand, but I believe that they

565
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Speaker 4: are probably now trying to figure out how they are

566
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Speaker 4: going to regulate moving forward. So what we're trying to

567
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Speaker 4: approach with is education is key for me. We really

568
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: need the community to understand that cannabis legislation and regulation

569
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Speaker 4: is going to happen. How are we going to approach

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Speaker 4: this in the best possible way, How are we going

571
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Speaker 4: to reduce harms? But also how are we going to

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Speaker 4: make sure that consumers are informed? And know what's in

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Speaker 4: their product, which is something that we don't have here

574
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Speaker 4: in Australia. You're buying from your drug dealer and you

575
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: don't know what's in it. You don't know if it's

576
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 4: high THHC, how much CBD, what the terpene profile is.

577
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Speaker 4: Having that option I think would be life changing for

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Speaker 4: many in this country.

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Speaker 2: And as you see that, I'm just clueless because I've

580
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: never been to Australia. No do I know the lay

581
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Speaker 2: of the land. But is the traditional market popping out

582
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: there like it is in you know, like for Los Angeles.

583
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Speaker 2: I mean there's dispensaries that are illegal all over the place,

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Speaker 2: but yet in other parts of California you can't get

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Speaker 2: away with it. In Chicago you can't really get away

586
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Speaker 2: with it. In New York they're getting away with it.

587
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: In Oklahoma you can't get away with it. So it's

588
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: like hit and miss where you can and can't. But

589
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Speaker 2: the black market is still thriving more than the legal market.

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Speaker 2: Is it like that in Australia as well?

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Speaker 4: Currently all we have access to too is if you're

592
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Speaker 4: a medicinal cannabis patient, you can go to a dispensary,

593
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Speaker 4: but you have to also have an affiliation with that dispensary,

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Speaker 4: and they are very far and few between what I

595
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Speaker 4: see will be and this is why it's important for

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Speaker 4: the states to regulate, because then planning controls can go

597
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Speaker 4: into place. And my background in the adult industry has

598
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Speaker 4: meant that I have a good understanding of what age

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Speaker 4: restricted premises, how they would operate, and what kind of

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Speaker 4: regulations you would have in place to ensure that there

601
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Speaker 4: is that safety protocol in place and that staff are

602
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Speaker 4: well trained to.

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Speaker 3: Operate in that space as well.

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Speaker 4: I envisaged that will probably have a very strictly regulated

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Speaker 4: industry here. What it will probably look like is access

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Speaker 4: to products through a dispensary, but there would be rules

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Speaker 4: and regulations as to how you could access and limitations

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Speaker 4: on how much you could consume as well.

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Speaker 9: Rachel, how many lacenses as exist right now or grow

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Speaker 9: and supply to the dissensories in Australia, do you know?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: In Australia we have very strict regulation with our therapeutic

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Speaker 4: Goods administration. So I've just seen a company that has

614
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Speaker 4: set up here in Victoria for medicinal cannabis purposes and

615
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 4: also received funding from the state government to really elevate

616
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 4: their position and invest in the industry has only now

617
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Speaker 4: just been approved for their product to be internationally recognized.

618
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Speaker 4: So the fact that it was and they've just recently

619
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Speaker 4: changed the laws around importation. To have a product that

620
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: you could grow and sell in Australia had to go

621
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Speaker 4: through very strict regulatory reviews and checks. If you were

622
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Speaker 4: just importing product, it didn't need to have those checks.

623
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Speaker 4: So they've completely changed the framework there to make sure

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Speaker 4: that it is more of an even playing field because

625
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: Australian growers were at such disadvantage. What I do know though,

626
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Speaker 4: is that the prescriptions for medicinal cannabis are skyrocketing. We're

627
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: seeing at least five thousand prescriptions a month and we

628
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: know that that's just growing exponentially. So people are starting

629
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: to realize that they can access medicinal cannabis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, five thousand scripts in a month.

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Speaker 6: That doctor from Brandon right in the US, they're afraid

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Speaker 6: of losing their licenses.

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Speaker 4: Still, we have a system here where you actually have

634
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Speaker 4: to just a patient is approved by our Therapeutic Goods

635
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 4: Administration or the TGA to receive a script. So you

636
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: need to renew that script every six months. But we

637
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 4: do see that those renewals are going through and people

638
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: are finding access to medicine is really helping what they

639
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 4: need it for.

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Speaker 2: Do they charge it for these scripts?

641
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Speaker 4: It's very expensive and this is the problem why we

642
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: still have people who particularly people who medicinal cannabis patients

643
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: and can't work, probably on a disability support pension or

644
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: people living with disability and accessing medicinal cannabis is they're

645
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: still accessing through the black market because they can't afford

646
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: one thousand dollars script each month we have go. Yeah,

647
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: it's quite expensive depending on what you're consuming, mainly with

648
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: oil based medication, it is more expensive than if you're

649
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: buying flour, but the price comparison is comparable to buying

650
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: off the black market. And we know that the majority

651
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: of people who grow their own at home are either

652
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: growing for people that they're caring for, or are people

653
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: who are medicating themselves.

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Speaker 2: What are the rules and regulations I'm growing like, for instance,

655
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: in California, you can grow yourself six plants and consume that.

656
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: What is it like in Australia.

657
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Speaker 4: And that's what we're proposing I've got a bill in

658
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: parliament that will be debated at the end of the

659
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: year to remove the criminalization of cannabis, so essentially decriminalizing

660
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: allowing homegrown and allowing you to be able to gift cannabis.

661
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Speaker 4: So that's covering those who do grow for people they're

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Speaker 4: caring for. Currently it's illegal. If you get caught with

663
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Speaker 4: plants in your house, you will be arrested.

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Speaker 2: Even if you have one of these thousand dollars prescriptions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you can only with your with your script.

666
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Speaker 4: You have to show that you've got your script, but

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Speaker 4: it also has to be carried in the packaging that

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Speaker 4: it was provided with your with your medicine. So for example,

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Speaker 4: if you're provided with flour, it would come in a

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Speaker 4: particular type of container with labeling on it and have

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Speaker 4: a childproof lock. The police will only accept you carrying

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Speaker 4: your medication in that particular vessel.

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Speaker 3: It's a little for a while too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the police.

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Speaker 4: Here are really educated on medicinal cannib the amount of

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Speaker 4: I work closely with a lot of prescribing doctors and

677
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Speaker 4: pharmacists and they would get a call daily from a

678
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Speaker 4: police officer inquiring as to is this.

679
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Speaker 3: Really someone's medicine.

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Speaker 4: Is this really something they can use as medicine without

681
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Speaker 4: even understanding that. You know, it has been legalized since

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. You know it's time they caught up.

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Speaker 2: You think seven years later the police out there in

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Speaker 2: Australia would realize what the rules and regulations are. What

685
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Speaker 2: is it like for hemp out there? Rachel hemp is.

686
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Speaker 3: Really restricted as well.

687
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Speaker 4: So unfortunately the hemp is still classified under the Drugs,

688
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Speaker 4: Poisons and Controlled Substances Act, even though we know that

689
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: hemp has very low THC. So I'm currently working on

690
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Speaker 4: an inquiry looking into the limitations around hemp because we

691
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: know that it is and really alter.

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Speaker 3: We know that there is a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of opportunity for hemp production and man of fact, particularly

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Speaker 4: in Australia, it does tend to be something that a

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Speaker 4: lot of farmers want to access. So we have found

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Speaker 4: that the inquiry is looking into what are some of

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00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 4: the limitations around growing, but also how is it being

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Speaker 4: produced and manufactured and what are the limitations there.

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Speaker 3: So we have a cotton.

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Speaker 4: Industry here that that really isn't viable because we don't

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Speaker 4: have the water and we're a very dry country. So

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Speaker 4: we're looking at the cotton gins where that is processed

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Speaker 4: and it being an easy transfer into hemp production. And

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to working on the inquiry in the

705
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Speaker 4: next couple of weeks to see if we can come

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Speaker 4: to a position with the government on what these limitations

707
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 4: are and also just acknowledging that hemp is it's a

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Speaker 4: crop and it should be treated like every other crop.

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Speaker 6: Were your concerns with that on the conversion from how

710
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 6: it cannabinoids into the.

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Speaker 7: Delta A to mind, Like in the United States, are

712
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Speaker 7: now steeling back on even CD support because there's.

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Speaker 6: A really difficult way to qualify whether it's been or not.

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Speaker 3: Or is intended to be in another country.

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Speaker 4: Look, interestingly, it hasn't really come up in conversation here.

716
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if there's there is a There

717
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: is definitely a push for hemp to be accessible for

718
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Speaker 4: medicinal reasons, but realistically the hemp industry here just wants

719
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Speaker 4: it to be treated like a crop.

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Speaker 3: So we have a.

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Speaker 4: Huge building industry here that is looking at the future

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Speaker 4: of building, and because hemp is fire resistant when it's

723
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Speaker 4: turned into hemp crete, there is a really big push

724
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Speaker 4: for that to be a viable alternative, particularly during bushfire season.

725
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Speaker 4: It's something that does come up in conversation quite readily.

726
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Speaker 4: Also the fact that it's carbon negative and we know

727
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: that we need to start thinking about different resources in

728
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Speaker 4: our environment. What I will say though, is interestingly, when

729
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: we were debating the push for a hemp inquiry, we

730
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: did have a few of the Conservative members of Parliament

731
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Speaker 4: talk to us and try and argue the fact that

732
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Speaker 4: we were trying to find a back doorway of legislating

733
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Speaker 4: cannabis and legalizing cannabis, which is quite laughable when you

734
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: think about how much hamp you need to consume to

735
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Speaker 4: get high. But I think in Australia the laws are

736
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 4: so conservative around progress here. I know in Victoria we

737
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Speaker 4: only have six growers hemp growers and it equates.

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Speaker 3: To about two hundred hectares.

739
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Speaker 4: It's not a lot, and we'd like to see that

740
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Speaker 4: that would be something that would be completely expanded upon

741
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 4: because other states where they have relaxed the laws around

742
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: hemp production, we've seen it really flourish.

743
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Speaker 2: What about rachel the research value of Australia. Are there

744
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Speaker 2: companies that are investing like we see some in the States,

745
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: But mostly. You know, we see abroad in different countries

746
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: that are really investing in their money and time into

747
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Speaker 2: the research of cannabis. Is that something that Australia is

748
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Speaker 2: looking into as well.

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Speaker 4: I believe so, and I think that we have a

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Speaker 4: very dynamic industry here, particularly in the medicinal space, and

751
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: there is a lot of work going on in the

752
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: space around looking at people who suffer with endometriosis and

753
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 4: the admission into emergency for pain and the fact that

754
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: those that experience endometriosis are not finding relief with opioid

755
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: based medications, and also that there's an issue there with

756
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 4: higher rates of addiction to opioid based medication, So there

757
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: is a lot of research going on in that space.

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Speaker 4: We're also seeing research in the space around driving laws

759
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: of course and levels of impairment. But what the limitations

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Speaker 4: are there again and talking to the researchers, particularly in

761
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Speaker 4: the end of metriosis space, is that those that participate

762
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: in the trial are too afraid to partake more often

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Speaker 4: than not because of the driving laws. So it's a

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Speaker 4: bit of a double edged sword as to the progress

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Speaker 4: we can make here by way of research when patients

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Speaker 4: can't be acknowledged for their medicinal consumption.

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Speaker 2: Oh that makes it so tough. We can keep going

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Speaker 2: on and on. Rachel Pain, Member of Parliament at Parliament

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Speaker 2: of Victoria in Australia. It's so great to have you

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Speaker 2: on the show. We'd like to do the high five

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Speaker 2: with everybody that comes on. So question number one, Rachel,

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Speaker 2: how old are you the first time you smoked cannabis

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Speaker 2: and where did you get it from?

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Speaker 4: Oh? The first time I smoked cannabis, I would have

775
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: been fourteen and it.

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Speaker 3: Was provided to me from a friend in Newcastle.

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Speaker 4: We have a little spot where we all would go

778
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Speaker 4: and smoke bombs, which was down by the creek. So

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Speaker 4: all of my old newe mates would remember where the

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Speaker 4: creek was. And that's just a bit of a shout

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Speaker 4: out to all of us who used to enjoy going

782
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Speaker 4: down there for a cheeky spliff.

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Speaker 2: How fun is that? And who was the one that

784
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Speaker 2: had the cannabis?

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Speaker 3: It would have been my mate Fee.

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Speaker 2: Fee a girlfriend Faye, Way to go, Fae, way to

787
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Speaker 2: turn out everybody.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure her older brother might have had something

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Speaker 4: to do with it as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that it's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Question number two of the High five, What is your

792
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Speaker 2: favorite way to use cannabis?

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Speaker 4: I love smoking joints, but I've recently changed to a

794
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Speaker 4: dry herb vape and I really enjoy it because I

795
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Speaker 4: can taste the flavor profile of cannabis so much more,

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Speaker 4: and particularly when you play with the heat the different

797
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: turpene profiles. So there's someone who's consumed cannabis for as

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Speaker 4: long as I have, I'm only learning and that's really exciting.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 4: I love that that's part of my journey with cannabis.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody still is Rachel as the plant

802
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: is still infinite of what it can still do, right.

803
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: I mean when you see that concept right there, we're

804
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: all still learning because nobody knows what else it could do.

805
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: There's new cannabinois, there's new this and that, there's a

806
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: new thc. Well, they're just still finding new stuff that

807
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Speaker 2: this plant can do. Question number three of the High five, Rachel,

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Speaker 2: Craziest place you ever used or smoked cannabis? By the

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Speaker 2: creek or somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: I had to really think about this one, because.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's been such a journey for me,

812
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: but it would have to have been when I was

813
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: in the States, I bought my cousin and I decided

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Speaker 4: to buy it was a diamond tipped pray rolled in

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: To which we consumed and then it was just whoa.

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Speaker 4: It was so overwhelming and there was so much movement

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00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 4: and color. I had to take myself back to the

819
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Speaker 4: hotel for a swim and chill out.

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Speaker 2: How fun is that?

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Speaker 3: It was a pretty crazy experience.

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Speaker 2: That's always good to come to veg Did you like

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Speaker 2: do you come to the States quite often?

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Speaker 4: That was my first time to the States, actually my

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00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: second time, but my first time. I flew in and

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Speaker 4: La went into lockdown that morning. I was flying in

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Speaker 4: for a friend's wedding, so we stated at an airbnb

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Speaker 4: for two days before we had to fly home.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Not a great time during that first first half of lockdown.

831
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Speaker 2: Oh you gotta love COVID. Question number four of the

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Speaker 2: High five with Rachel Pain Remember of Parliament. What is

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Speaker 2: your go to munchies after you get high?

834
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Speaker 4: I'm a salty, sweet girl, so it has to be crisps,

835
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Speaker 4: chips and dark chocolate.

836
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Speaker 2: What kind of chips?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I love corn chips.

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00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: Corn chips. I like it salted, of course, right, saltea

839
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Speaker 2: and nice and crunchy. Question number five of the High five, Rachel,

840
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: if you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive,

841
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: who would it be and why.

842
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Speaker 4: It would have to be Chelsea Handler because she's such

843
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: a legend. She's so funny and I love the fact

844
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Speaker 4: that she's just, you know, so unashamed about her cannabis consumption,

845
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Speaker 4: just you know it, sits up in bed and has

846
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Speaker 4: a joint.

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Speaker 3: She's my kind of girl. I would love to hang

848
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Speaker 3: out with her.

849
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Speaker 2: And not only that, she smokes a joint as she's

850
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Speaker 2: going down the ski lifts. I don't know if you've

851
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: seen that on.

852
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: I love it. My kind of girl.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's just such a fun one. I'm sure

854
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: she tours out there too, right. I mean, you guys

855
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: get everybody in Australia that comes out there to tour

856
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: and new shows. I feel like Australia is another part

857
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: of America, Like I feel like all the people who

858
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: need to be.

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Speaker 3: Next to her a place to held. Joe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to host you in Parliament. We

861
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: can set you up in Parliament.

862
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Speaker 3: It would be right. They would love to have you.

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00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to go there, and I want

864
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: to hear from the people in Parliament that just really

865
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: hate cannabis and think it's the devil's juice, And it's like,

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Speaker 2: why do you think this? And I'd love to get

867
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Speaker 2: them on to talk about this because what are your

868
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: thoughts and why you feel that way? Because I personally

869
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: like to hear the other side of people right when

870
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: they say that that's how they really think and feel,

871
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 2: which is fine. Not everybody feels like this is real

872
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: medicine when we have so much proof and evidence that

873
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: it is. Some people call it the gateway drug, some

874
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: people call it this and that, and it's like, okay,

875
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: I like this platform to be able to use for

876
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: those so we could all sit there and go, hm hm,

877
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: how crazy is this person really thinking? Because there's a

878
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: lot out there that I really like that.

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00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: I was actually having this conversation yesterday where we were

880
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 4: talking about the idea of cannabis as a gateway drug,

881
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: and to me, what the gateway actually is when you

882
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 4: go on see drug dealer, because the drug dealer has

883
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Speaker 4: all different sorts of drugs. You know, you might be

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Speaker 4: just to purchase some weight, but then you'll be offered

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Speaker 4: something else. And to me, that's the guy way and

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Speaker 4: that's the issue.

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Speaker 2: True. It just depends like if people come out here

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Speaker 2: and they meet my buddy Daniel, they'll realize whatever you want,

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Speaker 2: you can make it happen. So kidding, Daniel, just kidding,

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Speaker 2: allegedly allegedly, Well, Rachel, is there anything that we forgot

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Speaker 2: to mention that you want to mention now? Or Mary

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Speaker 2: you want to ask before we let her go?

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Speaker 3: We could talk.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm so excited to do more with you

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Speaker 9: and Cannabis Talk magazine and.

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Speaker 3: The education and Australia as well as Thailand.

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Speaker 6: I think this was a start of a really really

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Speaker 6: good friendship.

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Speaker 3: So thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 2: And Rachel, as things happen there out there in your state,

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Speaker 2: please keep us updated. We'd love to even if it's

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Speaker 2: a post that we could do on Instagram or you

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Speaker 2: want us to reach the people via this show and

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Speaker 2: this platform. Hey, people in Australia, make sure you go

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Speaker 2: vote for this or this is that you know, we're

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Speaker 2: heard worldwide and we have a lot of listeners in Australia.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much for coming on. Rachel Paine,

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Speaker 2: Member of Parliament at Parliament of Victoria in Australia. You

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Speaker 2: could find your online on our ig at Rachel Payne

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Speaker 2: Underscore MP. That's our a c h E l P

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Speaker 2: A y n E Underscore MP. And also you guys

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Speaker 2: go check out the website same name dot com dot au.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much Rachel for coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: It's a real pleasure and nothing but the best of

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Speaker 2: luck to you out there in Parliament and go keep

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Speaker 2: fighting the good fight and make sure you get this

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Speaker 2: wonderful plant legalized out in Australia. So thank you so much.

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