Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the
Speaker 1: backfield makes flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Hump Day, The rain has humping. The rain
Speaker 1: is somewhat died off, a little bit still dreary. But
Speaker 1: we're not dreary in this studio because the Cowboys one
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You got your cookie? I did get a
Speaker 1: cookie today. Ready to roll, cheating, cheating on this hump day.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling, Kurt? Feeling good? Yeah, it's hump day.
Speaker 1: Feeling good? Are you out on Friday? I am okay.
Speaker 1: We're not doing player interviews today. We're doing them Thursday.
Speaker 1: So we'll have one Friday and probably one early next week.
Speaker 1: We had to move our schedule around. Awesome. How you doing.
Speaker 1: It's almost called you. Kurt looked right at you. Nate,
Speaker 1: Oh man, just just ready. I'm ready to roll into this. Man.
Speaker 1: I got so man. You know Doug that's gonna call
Speaker 1: him Kurt hold back on the calls because we got
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a lot of little bumping and grind
Speaker 1: in the day. So because I have some questions and
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm quite sure Shannon has this. First
Speaker 1: of all, First of all, great job last night. I
Speaker 1: wish you could have been there. He did Concrete Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fun show. It's nice to see hanging with the bulls
Speaker 1: boys carry. So we had two constant two constants yeah right, everybody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody else rolled saying wow, but that last night, I
Speaker 1: ain't think we could duplicate what we did the week
Speaker 1: before we did. You were worried about worried about the mix,
Speaker 1: the mix of Mick hell Helman and Nick. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, Hellman kind of laid back, but you know
Speaker 1: Nick and Mick kind of like I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: kind of all all, you know, you know, not that
Speaker 1: that was gonna bump heads. It's like, you know, we're
Speaker 1: trying to be a happy hour, right, we don't want
Speaker 1: to be intense football hour. It's a different show. Yes,
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm through with that. I'm just there. I'm
Speaker 1: just there for the free food every week. Of course
Speaker 1: you are guaranteed. This is one thing that's guaranteed on
Speaker 1: on concrete Cowboy half hour is we're gonna all get
Speaker 1: our waters and we all gonna get a big plate
Speaker 1: of guacamola with sauce. And it's pretty and it and it,
Speaker 1: from what I understand, tastes great. Did you eat something? Ye? Okay, good, good,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Now you're definitely gonna get that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you have to catch y'all eagle to him before
Speaker 1: he you know, put up the expense card because he'd
Speaker 1: seen it disappear in that space. He gets out there early,
Speaker 1: he gets out, but don't tell him I opened it
Speaker 1: back up after he left. Yeah, but I'm through you, sir.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we got a game this weekend, another
Speaker 1: one game seven, game seven in Washington, d C. Against
Speaker 1: on the road. Who do y'all thinks the biggest rival
Speaker 1: in the division Now, I kind of feel like it's
Speaker 1: Philly down. It used to be Redskins when you were there, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that was like a huge rivalry. I don't what to be,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, when once we started winning,
Speaker 1: because when we were losing, it was everybody because we
Speaker 1: were so bad. Once we started winning. We were fortunate
Speaker 1: that every I think even one year, we had every
Speaker 1: all three teams in the playoffs. So it was not
Speaker 1: a let down. Yeah, so everybody was like three years straight.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, you you just went on
Speaker 1: a three week high sometime because you had back to
Speaker 1: back to back. You had back to back and then
Speaker 1: go to play a AFC team, then back to your
Speaker 1: division and man, it was fun. It was it was fun.
Speaker 1: You never came off that high because if you did,
Speaker 1: you got crushed. Yeah, where did you hate playing the
Speaker 1: most in the division. I didn't want to go to filling.
Speaker 1: I did not want to go to filling. The fans
Speaker 1: I could deal with because I could talk noise to them.
Speaker 1: But the players at one time they had Jerome Brown,
Speaker 1: Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, self, Joiner, Byron Evans, two great safeties,
Speaker 1: Muddy Waters and I can't think of the other kid.
Speaker 1: And then at the right at the right on the
Speaker 1: right side, the two tackles was U Mike Mike Goldick
Speaker 1: and uh and Pitts. He was a number one picked
Speaker 1: from Atlanta that they gave up on it and they
Speaker 1: brought him in. Uh And man, we was like and
Speaker 1: they wasn't giving up maybe twelve points a game. Ain't
Speaker 1: telling my sacks. They were sack master jam and uh,
Speaker 1: it's like you woke up like this, this ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be a good day. And then we got we got
Speaker 1: to go to Fiddling. And that team kind of embodied
Speaker 1: the fans too, right. They were just nasty. They they
Speaker 1: had a court at the bottom in the basement. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And uh. I had a cousin he's no longer with
Speaker 1: us name. We call him Nod, and uh he would
Speaker 1: always want to come to the Fiddler game. I said, Nad,
Speaker 1: you know how many tickets you need? How need five? Say, Nad,
Speaker 1: not go up over that cowboy stuff on, do not
Speaker 1: go up there? Uh man. He would put on every
Speaker 1: blue piece of they do it, and him and his
Speaker 1: buddies would go. Man, they'd be ready. And I guess
Speaker 1: the fans figured these dudes came to fight. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: they're wearing this to the stadium, they came to fight.
Speaker 1: So they And I'm like, but I guess they sighted
Speaker 1: in the same area with the same people. Over the
Speaker 1: years they got to yeah, and I'm like, wow, I
Speaker 1: used to be looking. I used to come out out
Speaker 1: of the game whether we want. I was like, where's
Speaker 1: my cousins where everyone either beat after them? Hey, we
Speaker 1: got a new feature we're testing out today. What is that, sir?
Speaker 1: If you go to the Cowboys app, you download the
Speaker 1: Cowboys app, there is a fan Pulse feature if you
Speaker 1: watch the podcast on the app and you can vote
Speaker 1: on different topics that we talk about. Right now, the
Speaker 1: topic that is up is who's the biggest rival in
Speaker 1: the division? See and look at that? Who do you
Speaker 1: Who do you guys think? I mean, who do y'all
Speaker 1: are closest to the players now? And who did the
Speaker 1: players feel the biggest rivalry is? We should text a
Speaker 1: couple of you guys. Man, you know what, Let's ask
Speaker 1: him that on when we get when we sit down
Speaker 1: with him. That's a good ongoing question. Yeah. I personally,
Speaker 1: from a fan perspective, I think it's Philly. I think
Speaker 1: one their their fans are so I don't over the
Speaker 1: top and yeah, and they're they're not nice. They're just
Speaker 1: not nice people in Philadelphia. And I think that from
Speaker 1: a fan perspective, they talk more trash and they they
Speaker 1: have felt more entitled and up until last year hadn't
Speaker 1: really done anything. So you could always say how many
Speaker 1: trophies if you we can't do that anymore. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like the Redskins haven't been that great the Giants,
Speaker 1: even though the league tried to make the Giants and
Speaker 1: natural rival by opening the season, it work. No, I
Speaker 1: just feel like Philly there's just something there because I
Speaker 1: know this. I talked to one of the police policemen
Speaker 1: attent the stadium, and they arrest more people at the
Speaker 1: Philly game by like almost tripled than they do any
Speaker 1: other home game that we have at the stadium. So
Speaker 1: they're just not Not only are they're not nice, I
Speaker 1: think they're angry and violent. I think they act on
Speaker 1: they're not nice. Legal huh, they're doing something ill to
Speaker 1: wind up in jail. Yeah. And I actually had a
Speaker 1: friend of mine that, uh female, that went to a
Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago, and she wore a
Speaker 1: Cowboys gear. She got her hair pulled from behind in
Speaker 1: the stands. She got pushed, Yeah, and she was just
Speaker 1: rolling with it. She was like, I'm not gonna fight anybody.
Speaker 1: She was kind of laughing about it, but they were
Speaker 1: She's a nice lady and they were not nice to her.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Many they don't play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you Who do you think, Kurt? I think
Speaker 1: it's Philly. Yeah, and in part they've been the better
Speaker 1: team in the division right here lately, so I think
Speaker 1: that adds to it as well. So what about you, Douglas? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think anytime somebody in your division just won the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, they better be your biggest rival. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're the ones you gotta beat. Well, let's get into
Speaker 1: the ones you gotta beat. This week's getting a little
Speaker 1: bit into this Washington game and talk about this off
Speaker 1: this Cowboys offense and this Giants, I mean this Redskins.
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time with words, names and words today.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but yeah, Washington and
Speaker 1: on paper again, it seems like every week on paper
Speaker 1: you start looking at it and you're like, how are
Speaker 1: they going to win this game? This looks like another
Speaker 1: defensive game, Kurt. You pulled some stats. Washington is fifth
Speaker 1: in yards allowed with three hundred twenty six point two
Speaker 1: a game, and eighth and points allowed at twenty point eight.
Speaker 1: Are they that good? Who? Who they played? The O
Speaker 1: their schedule pulled up over there. I know they played
Speaker 1: Carolina last week they want to nail by the beat Carolina,
Speaker 1: they got got blew up by smoked. Yeah, they beat
Speaker 1: they beat Green Bay, yeah, believe. And then they lost
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis, which how that happened at them? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they beat Arizona pretty good and their first they're opener,
Speaker 1: So they kind of sound like us. Yeah, up and down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's they haven't had back to back wins yet, and
Speaker 1: so you know, but I'm gonna tell you something, and
Speaker 1: I'm going straight to the heart of it. The matchup
Speaker 1: is simple of this right here, the run pain um
Speaker 1: Alan Jonathan Allen versus our two into our sinners, our
Speaker 1: center and two guards. And that's the ticket. Bro. I'm
Speaker 1: telling these they don't have a lot of sacks, but
Speaker 1: they only give up ninety point two yards in Russian
Speaker 1: a game they get aufter you, bro, and versus that run.
Speaker 1: I think my man Ryan Carrogan had his first sack
Speaker 1: last week. But he's a he's a workhorse, he's been
Speaker 1: around a few years. He's he's you you know, and
Speaker 1: I know we're talking about But whoever runs this ball
Speaker 1: the best, I think we'll win this game. Controls the clock,
Speaker 1: controls the cloud, I mean with because their defense. They
Speaker 1: feel good about their defense, and we feel good about
Speaker 1: our defense last week. We will be in any game,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about it won't be ugly Eland. We
Speaker 1: will be in any game. If we can run anywhere
Speaker 1: thirty five plays or more and a half, and we
Speaker 1: can be forty five or fifth percent in the first
Speaker 1: half on third downs, we will be in every game.
Speaker 1: I think because our defense want want to have played.
Speaker 1: But maybe nineteen to twenty two snaps and that ain't
Speaker 1: nothing for our defense in the rotation we have with
Speaker 1: our defensive line, that would be nothing. And so but
Speaker 1: the possibility of Sean Lee coming back fresh. If our
Speaker 1: offense can maintain what they just the plays, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you will score. You know, can
Speaker 1: you score seven seven seven? You know like you did
Speaker 1: last week once you started scoring. I'm talking about holding
Speaker 1: onto that ball, keeping our defense fresh. Control it. We
Speaker 1: have to control the line of skimmies. These two boys
Speaker 1: from Bama can take over the game. Here's they got
Speaker 1: four sacks between them. Here's a couple more Kurt stats.
Speaker 1: Taking over Kurt's job. He's feeding the stats and I'm
Speaker 1: just reading him off a piece of paper. So going
Speaker 1: what you said, Washington's dominated the time of possession this
Speaker 1: year at thirty three. I hate that minutes the thirty
Speaker 1: two seconds to twenty seven, twenty eight. And then they've
Speaker 1: also not allowed a one hundred yard rusher yet in
Speaker 1: her eighth and rushing yards at ninety point two, they
Speaker 1: faced David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, and Christian McCaffrey so far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: last week Carolina, Carolina's fourth in the league and rushing
Speaker 1: in one hundred and thirty nine point four yards of game,
Speaker 1: and they they held him to was it eighty one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They they haven't allowed one hundred yard rusher. I think
Speaker 1: you might have said that had one hundre Russia. Or yet,
Speaker 1: do you come out out and just try to establish
Speaker 1: the run and say this is what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: or do you come out that you think maybe loosening
Speaker 1: them up and running some and how you do it?
Speaker 1: I mean, what runs have been successful against them? You
Speaker 1: look at those and see does that fit into your
Speaker 1: game plan? You know, Uh, they have a nice corner
Speaker 1: and your boy talk a lot number twenty four Norman, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so but you can attack them. It's gonna and I
Speaker 1: hate to say this. It's gonna be all about communication.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go on the role, you got
Speaker 1: to actually know who to block and who to attack,
Speaker 1: and you got to take advantage of it. You got
Speaker 1: to go into knowing and be supreme. Look confident, I
Speaker 1: know my job and I know what to do because
Speaker 1: you can make plays on it. What was the score
Speaker 1: in the New Orleans game? Oh, let me look here.
Speaker 1: They blew them out pretty dirty. What was it? Thirty
Speaker 1: something done? Yeah, I give me a minute to get
Speaker 1: to that page. Well, anyway, New Orleans, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying we had a high powered offense that New Orleans has,
Speaker 1: but we can score I know we can score twenty
Speaker 1: four points. You know. All we gotta do is capitalize,
Speaker 1: you know, and run a large number of plays. The
Speaker 1: more plays you run, the more chances you have of
Speaker 1: making a big play. You can run consistent good plays.
Speaker 1: Don't have no negative plays. Limit the negative plays, and
Speaker 1: take advantage because they're gonna give you on every defense
Speaker 1: in every game, they're gonna give you four or five
Speaker 1: shots at that end zone. Can you take advantage of
Speaker 1: where you're running back? Come free in any trip you
Speaker 1: throw a long winning the quarterback overthor it or the
Speaker 1: guy dropped the ball. If you can limit those bad
Speaker 1: plays like that and take advantage of them to turn
Speaker 1: them into big plays, how you going to somebody back
Speaker 1: and beat them, but you being consistent in who you are.
Speaker 1: I just hope they stick with the run game, because
Speaker 1: the Carolina it looks like they started out running and
Speaker 1: we're running pretty good, but then fell behind and completely
Speaker 1: gave it up. Yeah, and so I hope that the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: whether they get that far behind or not, continue to
Speaker 1: pound the rock and jam them and up the running
Speaker 1: yards and the time of possession. How important is it
Speaker 1: on the road to jump out and get a lead.
Speaker 1: That way, you're not playing from behind and you're not
Speaker 1: forced into the crowd, noise and comfortable situations. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's key. That's paramount. If you can either keep it even,
Speaker 1: you know, be no more than three points down in
Speaker 1: a hostile environment. This team should be good enough with
Speaker 1: zeke and if they free that, let them stay free.
Speaker 1: They should be good enough to win this game. I'm
Speaker 1: not discounting their offense. We'll talk about it tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: with a team like this, go down by ten and
Speaker 1: they're good enough to squeak it out like they did
Speaker 1: with it against Carolina. They're good enough to squeak it out. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's just how it is. Because they have a
Speaker 1: running game too, Yeah, that they like a lot. So
Speaker 1: we have to be good on special teams. Uh. And
Speaker 1: and let our defense take this game over because I
Speaker 1: think now our defense we had two turnovers. Correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, U Kurt. We had two turnovers in
Speaker 1: two games. We had a turnover the first two games ago.
Speaker 1: We had a turnover this game. So they're starting to
Speaker 1: come and when you now these guys are looking for
Speaker 1: it seems yeah, it seems like turnovers, especially with this
Speaker 1: team when they when they come, they come in flurries,
Speaker 1: like they won't have a turnover for eight games, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they'll it'll catch on fire and
Speaker 1: then they four three games. Well, I think there was
Speaker 1: a stretch a year or two ago that they went
Speaker 1: damn here the whole season without getting a turnover. But
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's like that game. We
Speaker 1: go eight games, we got the sist that interception hit
Speaker 1: Byron Jones right in the face. If Jeff Heath hadn't
Speaker 1: been there, Yes, wouldn't have had that one. Yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: but it just seems like they come in flurries. So
Speaker 1: like you said, they there, they start looking at it, right,
Speaker 1: they realized they could do it. What two games are
Speaker 1: going then we have two? We had one takeaways. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I have to look two games ago we
Speaker 1: had one. No, we had two. Yeah, we get a
Speaker 1: lot more fumble recoveries than interceptions, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: and we just have to be alert. It's supremely confident.
Speaker 1: That's that's what separates the middle of the road teams
Speaker 1: from the good and great teams. Even the good teams
Speaker 1: know that. Man, they's of what we got them. You know.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to get an interception against this
Speaker 1: team because the quarterback is is like Dak is like
Speaker 1: this quarterback of vice. First, they just they they watched,
Speaker 1: they watched where they throw the ball. They careful about
Speaker 1: where they throw the ball. But if we can just
Speaker 1: be precise, get the ball out of our hands and
Speaker 1: be precise and get back to that thinking. And duncan
Speaker 1: see this. When we were good two years ago and
Speaker 1: even part of the last year, you know, and I
Speaker 1: hate to say this, but we were dinking dunk team,
Speaker 1: you know, and and that's how we won. Now we
Speaker 1: ain't even you know, in the role lost. We ain't
Speaker 1: even Dinking and Duncan. We just not making we's not connecting.
Speaker 1: And so get back to Dinking and Duncan. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we see Zeke break break it open,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what we gotta do. Is it just
Speaker 1: a weird twist of faith? I think Zeke's fumbled both
Speaker 1: times he's played at Washington. I guess there's something something,
Speaker 1: you know, the numbers sometimes just some teams just like
Speaker 1: they look at it. We got him last year, and
Speaker 1: they work at it. They're like, we can get him,
Speaker 1: we can get him. He's a fumbler. He's not a fumbler.
Speaker 1: But some teams just you know, they're going to go
Speaker 1: their last leg to make sure they keep the thing going.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little mojo for them. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: speaking to mojo, let's take a break and gather ours
Speaker 1: up for a mojo filled second segment. How does that sound?
Speaker 1: You're gonna cut your air? Yeah, at least one more time.
Speaker 1: Keep it going, Kurt, it's getting chili now. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about chili. I didn't do this for
Speaker 1: comfort or to look good. I mean I did it
Speaker 1: to look ridiculous for you do conference. I ain't never
Speaker 1: had to worry about looking good. So so you got
Speaker 1: you got what treatment Friday? Friday, and then you have
Speaker 1: two more if all goes well? Yeah, two more than
Speaker 1: you'll be done. So I only got to keep doing
Speaker 1: this for about six eight more weeks. You can stop
Speaker 1: whenever you feel ready. I will. I'll stop whenever I'm ready.
Speaker 1: All right, So you don't tell me what to do.
Speaker 1: You're not the boss me, No, that's for sure. You're
Speaker 1: not my girlfriend unless you want to be. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: had two many girlfriends? Yeah, too many? All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We want to ask you better.
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Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the phones. Greg. We weren't
Speaker 1: able to get to you yesterday. Thanks for calling back.
Speaker 1: How are you hey? Hey? Um, I was wondering they're
Speaker 1: gonna give Noah Browns a decent shot for coming back.
Speaker 1: And also, hello, sir, you can ask your question bye.
Speaker 1: My latest report in my inside reporter named Kurt Daniels
Speaker 1: said that he will be back in blocking better than ever.
Speaker 1: God taking that totally out of context, well, what did
Speaker 1: you say, hey, Kirt? That type of receiver, you know,
Speaker 1: do you want to burner like like Bryce Butter out there?
Speaker 1: Do you need to more of a possession guy who
Speaker 1: can maybe a little more round it and can block
Speaker 1: when he needs to block? What's your next question, sir?
Speaker 1: He was playing for the Reds and Cowboys. Did you
Speaker 1: kind of realize how special that was at that time?
Speaker 1: And something like that? Again? What you cut out a
Speaker 1: little bit? Who did you say Dion was playing with
Speaker 1: the Reds and the Cowboys? No, no, only when he
Speaker 1: played with us? How special that was? We didn't care
Speaker 1: what he played with the Redskins, you know when he
Speaker 1: played for played baseball. Yeah, sir, I talked to him
Speaker 1: about that all the time, I said, Dan Man, I said,
Speaker 1: you know you and bow Jackson and maybe one or
Speaker 1: two other guys, how special that was. And the first
Speaker 1: thing he got to talk about, how how hard it
Speaker 1: was to play a baseball, how how you have to concentrate,
Speaker 1: how you have to be so much better better mentally,
Speaker 1: you know, because football just came natural to him. You know,
Speaker 1: he watched a little film he backed in, but when
Speaker 1: it was baseball man trying to hit that ball, trying
Speaker 1: to do the little nuances of what the game requires
Speaker 1: you to do. He said, that was that was work.
Speaker 1: That was a great time back then. Um, I was
Speaker 1: hoping sometimes you guys get as a special gash who
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll ask him since you since
Speaker 1: you brought it up, because men him do a show.
Speaker 1: But Moose, let me tell you what Moose is doing.
Speaker 1: Moose is uh, you know, he works for Fox as
Speaker 1: maybe the third guy, him and his guys, and then
Speaker 1: he uh, he just got back from London. He did
Speaker 1: that game. And Moose is a general manager for one
Speaker 1: of the uh it's a new league that's out and
Speaker 1: he's a general manager for the San Antonio deal in football. Yes,
Speaker 1: And so he's between Fox doing shows for us and
Speaker 1: being a general manager and his kid is in school,
Speaker 1: I think up in New York and just doing all that.
Speaker 1: He's busy. He leaves our show a lot of times
Speaker 1: and go and flies right either down to San Antonio
Speaker 1: or shoots out straight to the Fox shows. He's busy. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry as also, I really appreciate you, uh Sunday
Speaker 1: after the postgame show there and uh that he used
Speaker 1: to be a scout. Yeah, yeah, how he picked uh
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. That's right right forever. Appreciate the call, Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm gonna tell you something, man, And you know,
Speaker 1: y'all hear me say this a lot on the show.
Speaker 1: You know. Just I just thank God man, from my
Speaker 1: from from my situation and all of my ex teammates man. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And one thing I love love about my teammates Man.
Speaker 1: We could disagree on stuff, man, you know, no matter
Speaker 1: what it is, and we we you know, boom, we
Speaker 1: still can can can be together. Man. And that that
Speaker 1: football when you with the right group of guys. We
Speaker 1: we even we was older like that last super Bowl
Speaker 1: gets the Steelers, man, we all knew collective like this,
Speaker 1: Maybe it fellas we won that one because we were
Speaker 1: more experienced together unit and when Larry, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it was with the Steelers was our last one.
Speaker 1: And it's like, wow, who do you? We know you
Speaker 1: still hang out with Dion? Do you keep in touch
Speaker 1: with any of the other Well, I gotta called October back.
Speaker 1: He called me a week or two ago. So my
Speaker 1: mind as good as it used to be. But uh,
Speaker 1: Tony Tolber. You know, we're supposed to get with Charles,
Speaker 1: but when he's seeing him walking around out her bath
Speaker 1: for the lately. So he came by the office the
Speaker 1: other day, did he when he come back to office,
Speaker 1: you and him got to do a deal. It don't
Speaker 1: matter who interviewing you, just gotta get it done because
Speaker 1: he knows he knows Shannon pretty good. I think we're
Speaker 1: just grabbing bringing down the studio. Yeah, we gotta we
Speaker 1: need you in it because that's gonna be. What's great
Speaker 1: is y'all talking about old stories and uh uh, Dion
Speaker 1: and Mike called me the other day cussing me out
Speaker 1: because uh, he didn't want to get rid of Dad's,
Speaker 1: you know, and so he wanted me to hook him
Speaker 1: up with the radio guys like anything that you just
Speaker 1: called in so you can go to cussing. But you
Speaker 1: know this dude up playing the cuss right over. Forgive me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know I'm on radio and ain't supposed
Speaker 1: to cuss too. Minute later cuss again. So this is internet,
Speaker 1: so we're fine. Now I'm talking about he'd be on radio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dump buttoned up? What do you think about? Uh? Cam
Speaker 1: ran nine times for forty three yards last week? Does
Speaker 1: Dak have to run in this game for them to
Speaker 1: be successful? No, he's just out of timely scrambling. If
Speaker 1: they forced him to run, just run. Yeah, don't you
Speaker 1: think they have to design someplace for him to run
Speaker 1: out of the out of the eleven runs that he
Speaker 1: ran last week only for him was designed, so that
Speaker 1: means seven was just scrambles. I mean they've gone some
Speaker 1: games where they haven't done that many before. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: agree with you, Kurt, I'm with you. But see this,
Speaker 1: this is the beauty of this thing is when you
Speaker 1: are that guy and let's say it's early in the
Speaker 1: game and it's zero zero, take off and run. Now,
Speaker 1: if it's late in the game, you up or down
Speaker 1: by three or seven points, three or seven points, now
Speaker 1: you might have to stand there because you might have
Speaker 1: to get that thing. Yeah, twenty thirty was down the
Speaker 1: field and make it happen. So you got to stand there,
Speaker 1: you know, and do what you do and move around
Speaker 1: just another get it down field, because if you take
Speaker 1: our running, you ain't gonna five or ten and we
Speaker 1: need chunks. That is the difference. And knowing, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'll go to Aaron Rodgers. You know, he okay,
Speaker 1: I need five here, you know, next, you know, then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I need twenty and you see
Speaker 1: him just move around just enough boom, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that's what he's got to learn. Early in the game.
Speaker 1: You see Aaron Rodgers take off your hell fake like
Speaker 1: and then he just take off. Run, yeah, slide, get
Speaker 1: that first down, you know, not the defensive Line'm a man,
Speaker 1: this dude running off can't get older, you know. You
Speaker 1: it's a game within a game, and that you know.
Speaker 1: I asked Moose this morning and Rick Goslin I said, man,
Speaker 1: what is wrong with this kid? Does he not realize
Speaker 1: that he is the man. I mean, once you realize
Speaker 1: the man, you can look at the game differently. The coacher,
Speaker 1: Hey man, hey, wen't need you running? All right? Okay?
Speaker 1: And then Sunday comes around. Sunday come around. You get
Speaker 1: that read, you get that reading. Ain't there? Just take off,
Speaker 1: get the first down, stride, Hey, coach, what's the next play?
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna be sitting there saying then not here,
Speaker 1: you na, They're gonna be like, okay, first down, let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you you have to. He has to be
Speaker 1: aware of what's going on too, and and uh not
Speaker 1: not to compare, but Tony was at his best, you
Speaker 1: know when he had a run game, and when he's like, okay, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, I got this option in the backfield. I
Speaker 1: can you know I got these options on the outside,
Speaker 1: you know, okay boom boom, oh all right, first down?
Speaker 1: Now I got these Now he's looking at again, Well,
Speaker 1: I got this man in the backfield. I got all
Speaker 1: these options called I took off a ran just for
Speaker 1: five yards. Now we can carry this thing a little bit.
Speaker 1: Fu and his best players were always the ones that
Speaker 1: he extended to play. Yeah, the play broke down and
Speaker 1: yea guys coming back to him, cutting across front of him.
Speaker 1: So do you think that you think you can Dak
Speaker 1: can mentally realize Okay, when I run, things happen. Let
Speaker 1: that be top of mine. Not have his phone? Do
Speaker 1: we have his phone? No? Because you got dog. Do
Speaker 1: you got his number? You got everybody's else. If the
Speaker 1: ring tone okay, you know what he because you know
Speaker 1: what we call Dack and we'd pick it up and
Speaker 1: be Joe Looney. So what we need to do is
Speaker 1: call and just tweet, hey, hey man. The question you're
Speaker 1: just asking, dude, hey man, we wanted Is it in
Speaker 1: your mind? And when you realize that you run that
Speaker 1: things happened better for this team, because I really would
Speaker 1: like to ask you that question because he seems that
Speaker 1: don't know it. I mean, now this question and I'm repeating.
Speaker 1: You think I'm trying to be funny. No I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't him and the coaches to say, wow,
Speaker 1: when this if Nayton Shannikan sit there and think about
Speaker 1: it and they only got a half a degree of
Speaker 1: between them, well you know last thing. If you don't
Speaker 1: know if you're going to sign him long term, why
Speaker 1: say I mean get his best football out of him anyway,
Speaker 1: So that can help you decide whether you sign him
Speaker 1: long exactly. It's just, man, it's something as simple as
Speaker 1: you just said, my friend, it got a richter. Well,
Speaker 1: they said after the game, both him and Zeke said
Speaker 1: that his decks running open things for both Zeke's running
Speaker 1: game and for the passing game. So they have to
Speaker 1: even I think the coaches have to call plays for
Speaker 1: him to run. Most quarterbacks, and I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks they can him. They make They make
Speaker 1: you defend the whole field. You know, Pat Mahons got
Speaker 1: four weapons, and you have to defend the whole field.
Speaker 1: You cannot double hunt Kelsey to read us who you're
Speaker 1: gonna double. So he has the ability. So when you
Speaker 1: see him run outside the pocket, you you still gotta
Speaker 1: scramble to your man. It ain't like we're gonna scramble
Speaker 1: into a certain area because he's limited in what he
Speaker 1: can do. They see Zeke, they're gonna scramble into a
Speaker 1: certain area and get close to a man because they
Speaker 1: feel he's limited. Well take it and put it in
Speaker 1: the pocket. That's where he's limited at. But once he
Speaker 1: get going, scrambles outside the pocket and he get going
Speaker 1: and make a few passes, or he run the ball.
Speaker 1: Now that's the on the way, that's the only way
Speaker 1: he's been known to spread out. This is what's amazing.
Speaker 1: He rushed for nine hund He had nine hundred games,
Speaker 1: nine one hundred yards games in college. He scored each
Speaker 1: year three years in a row, ten touchdown, ten rushing
Speaker 1: touchdowns a year in college. You just can't take him
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, all that you did and forget
Speaker 1: what you were good at. Yeah, and so can you
Speaker 1: say that exactly how you just said it, because you
Speaker 1: baby light over, you said. Do you think he realized
Speaker 1: that when he does that in the game, Yeah, he knows.
Speaker 1: He's got to know. Like I mean, I get I
Speaker 1: get that. You go out there and you can only
Speaker 1: take what a defense give you. But there there are
Speaker 1: there have to be times where you're trying to make
Speaker 1: too much happen in your brain and with your arm,
Speaker 1: and you just you need to react. And you know,
Speaker 1: if he's run that much in college, at some point
Speaker 1: it's got to be like, Okay, I can throw this
Speaker 1: ball four yards back to the other side of the
Speaker 1: field and he's gonna get tackles soon as he hits
Speaker 1: the ground, or I can run this for eight right
Speaker 1: now and slide like I just at some point he
Speaker 1: I think he's got to figure out, like what you said,
Speaker 1: even though this isn't the game plan and they beat
Speaker 1: it in me all week, if this is what's happening,
Speaker 1: don't run the ball, wait for the past, wait for
Speaker 1: the route to open up. At some point he's just
Speaker 1: got to be like I hear you, yeah, but this
Speaker 1: is what I need. This is what I need to
Speaker 1: do for us to way the game. Gona the game,
Speaker 1: gonna dictate it man, the game, And that is what
Speaker 1: the great the great. And I'm wrong for what I'm
Speaker 1: doing because I'm selling that wrong type of hope. But
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks and even these some of these young ones,
Speaker 1: they got it. They got it when when number one
Speaker 1: ain't there, number two, eight there, and most teams don't
Speaker 1: have three four options, So we look at some teams
Speaker 1: don't have two. So when we look at the Saints,
Speaker 1: erased them. They got four options easily. You can't look
Speaker 1: at it. You can't look at Kansas City they got four,
Speaker 1: they got five. Can't look at them. You don't can't
Speaker 1: look at New England. Can't Yeah, leave them folks along
Speaker 1: scheme what I think this and you hear me said
Speaker 1: one hundred times when you don't have the talent of
Speaker 1: these teams, Yes, you do hot to scheme a little
Speaker 1: bit better. The Cowboys do hot to scheme a little
Speaker 1: bit better because if they don't, if they can't take
Speaker 1: away Beasy, that means we ahead of the curve. That
Speaker 1: means we are getting beasiy were happen them get open
Speaker 1: because it's too easy to brack it a slide. Now,
Speaker 1: they't easy to stick one one on one. Ain't easy
Speaker 1: to get them one on one, but it's easy to
Speaker 1: brack it. I see that eighty nine percent of our fans.
Speaker 1: So does Dak have to run in this game for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win? Yes? See, even even the fans
Speaker 1: can see it, eighty nine of them. That means there's
Speaker 1: probably three that they're like, no, he can throw us
Speaker 1: to a victory. I don't know that front seven that
Speaker 1: Washington's build up though, there be scary to run again,
Speaker 1: not the top draft choices in that run bootlegs, get
Speaker 1: him outside, don't run him up the middle. All right,
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Speaker 1: Back to hang it with the boys. Back and my
Speaker 1: sheet disappeared? Should have a sheet? So what's you going
Speaker 1: with to Gobo Girls? Dallas Cowboys, Gogo Girls. She keeps disappearing.
Speaker 1: I don't know someone's eating it or something. Anyway, come
Speaker 1: out to the Star and check it out. It's cool,
Speaker 1: a lot of cool restaurants there. We go, Let's go
Speaker 1: the phones. Chris Virginia, Man, how's it going, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Hey man? I made my first trip out
Speaker 1: there in the Fort War during the draft, and I
Speaker 1: had myself to blast did you pretty cool place? Man?
Speaker 1: Beautiful you guys, I'm so jealous y'all get to work there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a little story. Man. We had
Speaker 1: a guy named Mike de Rocco from this team, came
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville, and so he was talking, you know, we
Speaker 1: was interviewing because he was telling us about he was
Speaker 1: our inside guy. Behind him his line, that's what we
Speaker 1: call it, on the shoulder, I do. And so he said, man,
Speaker 1: this is my first time. You know, last time he
Speaker 1: was eight years ago, you know, and it's my first
Speaker 1: time being here man. And I'm looking at the stadium. Man,
Speaker 1: I I'm in awe. I said, yeah, and I've been
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and I definitely can't get it all by that.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, but we do have two pools, really
Speaker 1: a pool to get in with his come home. Man.
Speaker 1: But anyway, it is beautiful, hill Bro was beautiful And
Speaker 1: did you really enjoy Did you take advantage of the scenery? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did the Star Tour and I went through when
Speaker 1: you guys were drafting. I saw barat us and day
Speaker 1: when you were doing a fifth round draft pick. I
Speaker 1: want to do the whole place. It's oh, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: That oh cool? Man. Yeah, so there you go proof
Speaker 1: from a fan that it is really cool. So come
Speaker 1: to it. Oh yeah, I'm gonna beat the game this Sunday.
Speaker 1: Very excited. I haven't been through a game since twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen and watch Matt Castle playing fedec oh man, but
Speaker 1: we won? Was that the Was it raining that game?
Speaker 1: I was just cold. I think it's here right now.
Speaker 1: I think five degrees and the wind is blown. This
Speaker 1: is a cold day. When he won again? What's the weather?
Speaker 1: That's when Deshaun fumbled? Oh yeah yeah. What's the weather
Speaker 1: supposed to be like Sunday and Sunday? How how should
Speaker 1: I pack? You're gonna need a wind breaker? I would
Speaker 1: guarantee that is it dry? Yes? Okay, good, I can
Speaker 1: deal with that. What's your question? Are you gonna see?
Speaker 1: I was gonna see if I wanted I got my
Speaker 1: star Mancazine. I was gonna see which one of you
Speaker 1: guys were gonna be at the field. Maybe I can
Speaker 1: get an autograph you and Dave brod Us. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Yeah about it in DC? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on down, I'll be Rodness wonna be there, man
Speaker 1: and brought us will be back here. Yeah, they'll be
Speaker 1: doing the pregame show, but me and helling chicken out,
Speaker 1: so don't worry about seeing. I'll be working from home,
Speaker 1: thank you. Kurt doesn't travel, but I'll be there, Helmet.
Speaker 1: It'll be there, Rob, Nick, Derek, and make sure you
Speaker 1: don't need Mickey out. He'll be mad Mickey. You'll be there,
Speaker 1: so just I could I could go without Mickey, poor Mickey.
Speaker 1: But my only question is, guys on what do you think?
Speaker 1: How how good you all think? Um? Connor's been playing
Speaker 1: and Swayne good question man, thanks for has been playing outstanding, y'all?
Speaker 1: All right, man, Swayne's been playing outstanding. Connor is still learning,
Speaker 1: is he and he he f in the face. See
Speaker 1: this is what bothered His weakness is these guys strength.
Speaker 1: They can bull rush and Connor gonna have to make
Speaker 1: sure his hands inside. He gonna make sure when he
Speaker 1: planned his feet not to get two dug in because
Speaker 1: if they jerk him, they get they're strong enough and
Speaker 1: he's not heavy enough yet has enough man strengths. So
Speaker 1: when they jerk on him, you know, and try to
Speaker 1: put him forwardy you know you don't have to, you
Speaker 1: know that waiting his rend to sit down with staring
Speaker 1: Payne sixty three three nineteen you got the highonitis sixty
Speaker 1: three three h five. Yeah, they all six three two nine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But see they've got that man strand. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and the man I have it out to this year.
Speaker 1: But like Troy say, they ain't gonna do you no
Speaker 1: good this year. Right. One interesting stat before we go
Speaker 1: from Kurt Red Cowboys. Redskins are plus four for the
Speaker 1: year and turnovers takeaways, which is tied for fourth. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys are oh and three when they have a turnover,
Speaker 1: and three and oh when they don't say whatnot, I
Speaker 1: didn't get that. When you lost, the Cowboys are o
Speaker 1: and three they haven't won a game when they turn
Speaker 1: the ball over. Oh, when we turn it over. They
Speaker 1: are three and o when we turn it on. When
Speaker 1: we made another team turn it on. No, so don't
Speaker 1: put the ball on the ground. Boys. We didn't get
Speaker 1: Nates Beasley bracketing that's wrong down here. That's tomorrow. Well, no, no,
Speaker 1: I guess we could do it today. Well, we need
Speaker 1: to get out. We need to get out of here
Speaker 1: today because you have a lot to do telling people
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do and do we're gonna get out
Speaker 1: of here. I'm just gonna go get some players lineup. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's great. That's then I got meetings the rest of
Speaker 1: the day. So yeah, yeah, he's so important. Now, he's
Speaker 1: a big man the show. Not that important man's calls man,
Speaker 1: So I hope you don't do that on Friday when
Speaker 1: it's fan Friday. Wow. Okay, thanks for showing up, Kirk,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nate, thanks for bringing it, Douglas, thank you
Speaker 1: for doing what you don't Thanks for pushing all the buttons. Pressley,
Speaker 1: thanks for helping out. We will be back tomorrow. It'll
Speaker 1: be our defense in their offense. Yes, with the one
Speaker 1: exception of the Cole Beasley bracketing theory that Nate broke
Speaker 1: down at lunch for us, you guys will appreciate it,
Speaker 1: So tune in tomorrow. Hanging with the Boys. This is
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