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Speaker 2: Schr Door shines in his first preseason game eleven of nineteen,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and three yards passing two TVs. You know

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Speaker 2: Coach Prime was fired up times? Yes, Lord, yes, Chador Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah what now Coach Prime? God is good. Shout

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Speaker 2: Lebron James even way then that young king h looking

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Speaker 2: good out there, Shador Sanders. Keep going up, head down

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Speaker 2: and grind and head high to the most and head

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Speaker 2: high to the most high. Jordan Schultz text from a

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Speaker 2: high ranking AFC North executive on the Browns rookie Chador Sanders.

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Speaker 2: It's early, but wow, actually shot how good he looks.

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Speaker 2: Nike Football. When you get your ard tunity, create the

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Speaker 2: next one. Only matter of time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Joe, yeah we.

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Speaker 2: Could look, we could pick two plays, oh Joe, Well

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Speaker 2: damn he missed the Sam Strong safety blitz. Well he

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Speaker 2: had a guy ride over to the flat on second

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Speaker 2: and eight, and he skipped the ball to him. But

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Speaker 2: you saw that over route that brock Party throws so

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Speaker 2: well in the San Francisco offense. You see him fit

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Speaker 2: the ball until those time those small windows. Did you

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Speaker 2: see him on the move throw that touch pass? Now

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Speaker 2: the receiver made a great one head to catch, but

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Speaker 2: did you see the touch?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So take off your head, listen.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to see what should do would look like

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Speaker 3: in a situation that wasn't advantageous to him. He didn't

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Speaker 3: get any reps as many reps as he should to

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Speaker 3: prepare himself to be prepared for a game like this,

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Speaker 3: to this magnitude, Dylan Brooks hurt ken, you picking her,

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco not playing so the car that he was

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Speaker 3: dealt to go into this game. Can you be a

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Speaker 3: leader of men? Can you go in calm, show presence

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Speaker 3: of leadership, run the team, command the team, show that

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Speaker 3: regardless of who's a regardless of who's around you, you

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Speaker 3: can still conduct yourself Like quarterback one on, he was

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Speaker 3: calm under pressure, went through his progressions, made some great throws,

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Speaker 3: had some air and throws. You know, obviously that's what

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Speaker 3: film is for, That's what the precist is for the fix,

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Speaker 3: to fix the nooks in the crannies, to get him out.

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Speaker 3: He looked like he belong. He looked different he did.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Barrier, you made the right call. There's a reason

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Speaker 3: that you wanted him. There's no reason he should have

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Speaker 3: dropped as far as he did. You cannot tell me

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Speaker 3: as any scout of those thirty two teams that didn't

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Speaker 3: need to start a quarterback for those that needed a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and we're in need of one, watch film on should

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Speaker 3: and what he did at Jackson State and what we did

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Speaker 3: at Colorado, and said, you know what, no, that's not

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Speaker 3: my guy. The quote you just read from the scout

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Speaker 3: in the AFC North, if you watch film, what did

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Speaker 3: you expecting to look like?

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Speaker 4: He looked exactly like he looked in Colorado. He looked

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Speaker 4: exactly like he looked at Jackson State.

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Speaker 3: Calm, under pressure, in the pocket, going through progressions, making

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Speaker 3: the right throws.

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Speaker 4: That's what he expected to see.

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Speaker 2: What they expected to see and what some hope to

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Speaker 2: see might be two entirely different things. Talk to me now, now,

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Speaker 2: hope man I show hope, man I show hope this happens.

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Speaker 2: Man versus expect to see what I wanted to see.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see exactly what you what you wanted

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Speaker 2: to see. I want to see. Could he play with poise?

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Speaker 2: Could he throw the ball with conviction? Could he be decisive?

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Speaker 2: Could he go through his progressions the pocket collapses? Could

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Speaker 2: he take off? He showed me some of everything. I'm

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Speaker 2: the over route, threw it on time and guy in

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Speaker 2: his face, let him boom, drop me right in the bucket.

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Speaker 2: He fit those balls, a pressure in his face. The

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Speaker 2: second touchdown, pressure in his face. The first touchdown, the

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Speaker 2: corner slumps off the flat, the safety is hugging him.

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Speaker 2: He fits it in, gets it in, boom on the move.

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Speaker 2: The touch pass over the top. As I mentioned at

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Speaker 2: the top, the receiver did make a great play. But

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Speaker 2: your door had a nice loft. That's not as easy

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Speaker 2: to throw the mate. He was impressive tonight. Barry and

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Speaker 2: a lot of people they were in the chat last night.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what your door does. Let's see what your

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Speaker 1: Well, hold on.

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Speaker 3: You know what they're gonna say now, Oh, it's the preseason.

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Speaker 3: Oh he's not playing against their starters. Oh he's playing

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Speaker 2: He didn't have the starters either, well, help, hello, I

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Speaker 2: just see Jared Judy. I didn't see in Joeku. I

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Speaker 4: So this is what I have to say to those

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Speaker 3: They're gonna move the gold post, right, They're gonna move

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Speaker 3: the post and say, well, he wanted to go against

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Speaker 3: the Panther starters.

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Speaker 4: Well, obviously if he's not going against.

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Speaker 3: The Panther starters, or if he doesn't have his starters

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Speaker 4: Are trying to make the team.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is gonna happen when he had

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Speaker 3: the main characters in there around him, right, that makes

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Speaker 3: your job a little bit easier, that a little bit

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Speaker 4: Position than knows that he's playing with the Knight.

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Speaker 1: What you think gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, they can try to move the gold post, but

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Speaker 2: I ain't trying to kick a field goal or pat

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna score anyway, and should do a Sanders

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Speaker 2: score tonight. I'm gonna give credit words due fourteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty three one hundred and thirty eight yards, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: no interception, he got two sacks. Like I said, we

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Speaker 2: can nick pick a couple of things. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: strong safety of the Sam strong safety blitz the problem

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Speaker 2: like you know what. But it looked like he was

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Speaker 2: telling the god, bro, I need you to hook up

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Speaker 2: the safety. Lamar Jackson hold on to the ball a

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Speaker 2: little longer because he get out run to safety, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: same thing. That's not your door. That your door is

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Speaker 2: not a mobile quarterback. He's going to do all most,

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Speaker 2: the majority of his damage is going to be in

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Speaker 2: but he has the athleticism. That's not what he's known for.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Ojo.

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Speaker 3: This is then what he lacks in athleticism and inability

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Speaker 3: to get out the pocket.

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Speaker 4: He has gate. He has great pocket presents.

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Speaker 3: Being being able to move and being able to not

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Speaker 3: telegraph but understand when that clock is ticking and when

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Speaker 3: it's time to get up out of there. He can

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Speaker 4: What about the third down?

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Speaker 3: Huh? The third down, we scrambled with the d lion

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Speaker 3: random stunt. He was able to get outside of it.

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Speaker 2: I like, you know what I like the most. He

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Speaker 2: saw the stunt and took off immediately. Yes, yes, that's

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Speaker 2: what I like. O Yo, that's what I like. Oh y'all,

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Speaker 2: oh all, who's supposed to go first and who's supposed

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Speaker 1: But I tell you what I'm going.

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Speaker 4: I'm gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I tell you what y'all figured out in

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Speaker 2: film study tomorrow. But in the mean, in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: I'm about to pick up. I'm about to pick up

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Speaker 2: the first down.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's played himself.

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Speaker 2: He might have started after four, but after this performance,

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Speaker 2: he can't be number four because Oo.

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Speaker 1: Told him something very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: He says, you can't lose your job because of injury,

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Speaker 2: because let me.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: If you get injured and you're out and a guy

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Speaker 2: comes in and he's playing better than you before you

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Speaker 2: got injured, it's his job. Now, ask yourself. Was Dylan

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Speaker 2: what you saw your door, Sanders, do tonight, Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 2: ask yourself this question. Was he playing better than what

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Speaker 2: you're doing? Was then what you do or play tonight?

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Speaker 2: So if you can honestly ask us, ask answer those questions, okay, right?

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Speaker 3: And the thing about it what people need to understand.

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Speaker 3: For those that in the chat, it's one thing to

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Speaker 3: have joint practices. It's one thing to practice against yourself

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Speaker 3: and look good against your players. Yes, scripted on everything

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Speaker 3: is scripted, even defensively in those joint practices at times,

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Speaker 3: because there's certain things they want to work on defensively

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Speaker 3: and there's certain things that you want to work on offensively.

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Speaker 3: When you get into the game, nothing, nothing is shared

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Speaker 3: from team to team. So it's agreed light and everything

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Speaker 3: going as if it's a real game. You work in

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Speaker 3: do is execute it in its simplest form, as simple

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Speaker 3: as preseason games are from an offensive perspective, in the

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Speaker 3: to a hell of a job, one hell of a

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Speaker 3: off of clean up. There was some mistakes, obviously, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna always be mistakes, and then.

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Speaker 4: Things you can get better at.

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Speaker 3: And as you continue to see different looks, you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna get many looks obviously. It's it's the preseason. Everything

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Speaker 3: you see defensively will be very vanilla. You know, cover

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Speaker 3: tool sometimes that you might throw on.

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Speaker 1: You know, count plays, Ojo, make the plays count?

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh and listen he made him count the night

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Speaker 4: on that made.

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Speaker 1: You have to do when you're a low round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: Oho, me being a second no mark being a being

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Speaker 2: a low round draft pick. Oho, You're not gonna get

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Speaker 2: the plays that a high round draft pick is gonna get.

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Speaker 1: So don't go out there thinking that.

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Speaker 2: But when it's your time, shine, Yes, when it's your

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Speaker 2: time shine and that Hey you say I don't count time,

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Speaker 2: I make time count. Well, I didn't count plays. As

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Speaker 2: my brother used to say, Hey, I know you ain't

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Speaker 2: get that many refs. Keep your head up because one

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Speaker 2: day John Elwire gonna call for you. He gonna look

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Speaker 2: for you. You need to make sure you're ready. You

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Speaker 2: need to be make sure you where you're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Your door didn't get a whole lot of reps. But

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Speaker 2: when opportunity presents itself. That's what luck is. It's when

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Speaker 2: preparation meets opportunity. Amisen says, some call it luck.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you just said what you just said.

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Speaker 3: You just said you didn't get as many reps as

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Speaker 3: you should have in practice.

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Speaker 4: But he got into a game, and what did he

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Speaker 4: do on react?

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Speaker 2: But the reps that he did get in practice, he

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Speaker 2: made those counts because a lot of times I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it on you, I've

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Speaker 2: seen God, man, I ain't getting no burn, man, I can't.

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Speaker 2: And then when you get out there, you fing up

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Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I'm being positive.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, listen, I'm happy. I'm happy for young Bull.

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Speaker 4: A Cleveland Brown's game lead on the road.

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Speaker 2: They win that same offense, right, and you and you

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Speaker 2: guess what, and you go and you game plan. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm not game planning because we normally game plan game three.

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Speaker 2: And so, uh your door should he should he should

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Speaker 2: how he was raised. He's not gonna be. He's not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to stay even killed.

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Speaker 3: You know why because not only having to deal with

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Speaker 4: That wasn't my pick. Yeah that's what I wanted.

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Speaker 1: How you do it?

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Speaker 4: Make sure Andrew Berry gets all the credit, like you said.

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Speaker 1: Brother has him.

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Speaker 4: Don't smile, don't don't even don't say anything.

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Speaker 2: That the.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it won't tip. And this is for

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Speaker 3: do you watch film college film on Shador Sanders and

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Speaker 3: I'm a passive for him. That's not the guy I want.

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Speaker 4: How do you do it?

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking from a person that played the game

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Speaker 4: I have an eye. I have an eye. I played

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm a scout, but I know it's

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Speaker 3: for you. I just saw a young fella winning Jackson

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Speaker 3: regardless of what his record was in his totality twenty

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Speaker 4: Pieces around him. I know what he can do. He's

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Speaker 4: And he showed it again to night, yet again to night.

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Speaker 2: Against the wall, Yeah, he just has the demeanor to

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Speaker 2: get too high, he doesn't get too low. He has

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Speaker 2: no matter how bad it might be, going to really

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Speaker 2: in the situation where it's like, doesn't make any excuses,

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Speaker 2: and he always says the right things. Listen, It's not

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Speaker 2: no matter how little you have, no matter how good

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Speaker 2: you've been, no matter how bad you've been, you're dealing

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Speaker 1: But he hears what's being written about it. Absolutely he hears.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't, he's getting work, it's getting back to him.

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Speaker 2: But I just love the way the man kept his

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Speaker 2: that's how that's how you have to approach it. Don't

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a great job. It was his first outing.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, those throws it was there. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, go back and take a look at that

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Speaker 2: overball and we see brock Purty throw three or four

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Speaker 2: those a game to IU. Can you used to hit

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Speaker 2: breath debo on those plays? You'll kiddle on the over

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Speaker 1: Do you do?

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Speaker 3: You do you understand the anticipatory skills you have to

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Speaker 4: There was one, There was one. There was one overthrow.

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Speaker 3: He couldn't even see, Yeah, because on the replay we

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Speaker 4: We just saw them all come out.

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Speaker 3: You understand when people saw tonight, I don't think they

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Speaker 4: I don't think they understand how different the game is.

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Speaker 3: It's his first time, it's his first time in the

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Speaker 3: he almost did the why celebration. He said, you know what,

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Speaker 3: just the way he carried itself. He was ready for

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Speaker 3: Just hand me the cards, give me the hand, and

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play it. And he did that just just

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Speaker 4: He played the hand very well, and it's only gonna

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Speaker 4: you don't digress. I'm excited, and this is coming from

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Speaker 3: Exciting for the Browns to Finally, maybe nobody the answer

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Speaker 2: I think the thing is the biggest thing and that

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Speaker 2: after they can have is the ability to believe that

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Speaker 2: round draft pick. She'd do it was a five. There

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Speaker 2: seven rounds. He's a filth. Yeah, but there is not

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Speaker 2: one point in time that I didn't feel I belonged

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Speaker 2: remember calling my brother at each West Shrine grad. I said,

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Speaker 2: I don't care what they say. Yeah, I remember going

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Speaker 2: you think you're read? I say, probably post six four seven.

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Speaker 2: I say, but they're not better than me. They might

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Speaker 2: I belong in the NFL. And when I went to Denver,

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Speaker 2: ain't no what I remember asking myself, howl.

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Speaker 1: In that hell.

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Speaker 2: Did you get drafted before me? Yeah, I said, but

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I said,

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Speaker 2: it won't be long.

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Speaker 1: It won't be It was like the cat, Well, girl,

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Speaker 1: she say, boy, the cat got his tail called in

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Speaker 2: You know what he said, O Joe? He said it

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Speaker 2: won't be long now, he said. She didn't know what

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Speaker 2: or it won't be long for it all be over, yes, sir, yeah, man?

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Speaker 2: And when we put them pants on, ohoe, Yeah, first,

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget because you know, the rookies, we went

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Speaker 2: already be practicing right.

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Speaker 1: In Denver before we headed up to Greeley. Right, I

440
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: saw him.

441
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: They was nervous, oh Joe, like a long tailed dog

442
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 2: with a porch full of rocking chairs.

443
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 1: Somebody lean back and go be able to take you

444
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: don't wan to brother? By now? I thought they were nervous.

445
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: I said, oh yeah, That's that's all I need to see,

446
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 2: just the little fear, the little fear in the man's eyes,

447
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: because that's my that's my greatest ability. Yes, another man's fear.

448
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. I like it.

449
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: And listen, I know we've been talking about Shador, but listen,

450
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 3: remember I told Remember I remember that I told you

451
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 3: about the Panthers, right, yes, remember I told you about

452
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: the Panthers. If there's a if there's a dark a

453
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 3: chat stay with me real quick. If there's a dark

454
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: horse team that I believe in this year that is

455
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: going to creep up and maybe make it run into

456
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs, I said it.

457
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 4: Would be the Panthers.

458
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: They didn't look bad.

459
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: Brce Young didn't look back. Jayllen Kober went crazy tonight.

460
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: T Mac the rookie from Arizona, looked good tonight. I know,

461
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 3: Executy like it. Y'all thrown out getting into a little tussle. Listen,

462
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 3: I love the passion. It just preseason. That's fixable. That's fixable.

463
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 3: But again, look how the Panthers looked early in the game.

464
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 3: For those I know everybody tuned in to wash the door.

465
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, and I said at first,

466
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: someone that's that's not much of a Panther fan, didn't

467
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: play for organization. They owe me nothing. I'm telling you

468
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: the dark horse team for this season, the Carolina Panthers

469
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Speaker 3: Bryce Young in that receiving cord.

470
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Oh, Joe, I ain't never been that

471
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: hot in a preseason game.

472
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: No the tussle, oh.

473
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: They were going at it.

474
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: I ain't really got no tuzzle in practice, bro, Because

475
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Dan Reeve's gonna say, you fighting.

476
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we ain't working hard enough. Mike shanahand said

477
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: the same thing. Ain't working hard enough.

478
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: Bro. It ain't like it is now.

479
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Bro, them two hours two and a half hour practice, man,

480
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: please with pats. And you had on paths and oh,

481
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: let me take that back, o, Joe. You have on

482
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: they call it, see what they call shells, would show

483
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: the paths in shorts.

484
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: It's not shells like they call it now.

485
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Basically got the little little fitted of styron foam stuff

486
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: on that was not shells. When when I got in

487
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: the nineties, shells with shoulder pads and shorts shorts. Yeah,

488
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: and and you know we hit that they were we

489
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: hit back then nine on seven was live.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeap team.

491
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Speaker 2: Team was a solid thud up. There wasn't no touch

492
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: the guy on his like two hands touch. Oh no,

493
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: you you put shoulders on him, you put paths on him.

494
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: You bet you better come to you better come to

495
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Speaker 4: balance and be ready.

496
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Speaker 2: I remember Dennis Smith, we call him Kahuna and at

497
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Speaker 2: water man, they come down in that box.

498
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Speaker 3: Boll.

499
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Speaker 1: We had thumpers back then. Yeah, man, please.

500
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Speaker 4: Atater ain't play at water coming downhill now.

501
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: And Atwater wasn't the thumper like then, Dennis Smith, Kahuna

502
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: was the thumper number forty nine. Whoa whoa morning water Yes, les,

503
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: yes lord, oh Joe. I saw that joe a at

504
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: two oh five, two ten, Yeah, I saw him sit lineman,

505
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: sit lineman on their ass. They pulling. He ain't never

506
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: go low right. That showed in their chest and set

507
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: him down at at two ten. Here go back here

508
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: if y'all can find it, go back and check the tape.

509
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Speaker 1: He hit Roosevelt Potts. They both ran. He pots come

510
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: through the hole.

511
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 4: He hit him. He was out called.

512
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 1: Uh marryon Butts. Hey.

513
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Speaker 2: If you if you're a Charger fan, you know who

514
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: because back then, o Joe, they had a big, old,

515
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: big running back. They had big Marrion Butts, they had

516
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: Rod Bernstein. They have a big at Joe Caravello, big

517
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: Joe Cox. I mean they are the tight ends were

518
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: like three hundred pounds offensive live mammoth offensive line. Yeah, cohuna,

519
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: run through go back and look at that play if

520
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: with Dennis Smith hit Uh, he hit Marrion Buts and

521
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: he hit Roosevelt Potts.

522
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Speaker 4: Yeah, m you know you know who else was the

523
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: thumb or two? Remember Donovan Darius.

524
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I played against d d d at uh

525
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville. But that was back back in the nineties.

526
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: You had Chuck Cecil, you had Mark Mark Carrier from Chicago. Boy,

527
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: back then, it wasn't no nothing defenseless about that. They said,

528
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: you got him and the shoulder pass. What the hell

529
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: you thought was gonna happen? You come across the middle?

530
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're gonna get that work. What you're gonna

531
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: get that work?

532
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: Rodner Harrison?

533
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: Oh, Rod come with all four home.

534
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: Every time Hey, I say bro, he say Shaw, just

535
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: stay an be knees. I say, got you. But boy,

536
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: we tried. Boy, we definitely try to hit each other

537
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: in the mouth. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, Ay, that's a

538
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: hard playing joker. NFL Insider said, Shador Sanders still stands behind.

539
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel for the Browns coaches.

540
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: Gabriel is the head of Sanders in the eye of

541
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Speaker 2: the coaching staff, but rarely in training camp has that

542
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: position match what we've seen on the field. The quarterback

543
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: situation remains the story of camp, and should Sanders is

544
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: settling in to lead three scoring drives in the most

545
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: extended action of the summer won't make the team's consistent

546
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: stance that Sanders is fourth in a line any less perplexing.

547
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: No reasonable person thinks Sanders will be fully ready to

548
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: lead a team and consistently attack a complicated.

549
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: Defense three weeks from now.

550
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: He's shown enough talent and growth, however, to make anyone

551
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: believe he should be on the team and have a

552
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: chance to develop in starting quality player. Sanders is talented.

553
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: His throw out of the end zone to wide receiver

554
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: greg Lebardon in the preseason opener and has floated down

555
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: the sideline to receiver Loup Floria later approved. Until we

556
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: see Sanders get practice reps with the number one offense,

557
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: we can't believe the Browns view him as having much

558
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: of a shot to be the number two when the

559
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: season begins. I agree with what that's saying, but that's

560
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: my point is. Okay, you said, have we seen enough?

561
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: Have you seen enough of Dylan? What have you seen

562
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: from Dylan Gabriel to make you think he can be

563
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: number two?

564
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: Did you hear?

565
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: Did you?

566
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Who?

567
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: Excuse me?

568
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: Who wrote that? The Browns athletic insider?

569
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: The Browns Athletic insider?

570
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: Right? Yep.

571
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: So you see shad Or do what he does three

572
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: quarters of football three? I think maybe maybe played well

573
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: into the fourth quarter, right, yeah?

574
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I think so.

575
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: So in a live game, you saw him play the

576
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 3: way he played and still questioned if you can do

577
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: the same thing when he has the actual starters at

578
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: his disposal. I'm confused.

579
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: My thing is, he says, no reasonable person thinks Sanders

580
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently

581
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: attack a complicated NFL defense three weeks from now?

582
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: What about Dylan Gabriel?

583
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 2: Has he shown you enough to make them believe that

584
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: three weeks from now he can lead this team against

585
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: a complicated defense? I digress even further. Has Kenny Pickett

586
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: ever shown you that he can lead a team against

587
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: a complicated defense. Because all I know is that what

588
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: I keep hearing is what you're telling me what he

589
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: can't do. Like my coach just said, college with a

590
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: will put it, find something that.

591
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: He can do.

592
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: See you keep telling me what you do or can't do. Well,

593
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: your job as a coach is to put players in

594
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: position and find something that they can do.

595
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, but where's the can't coming from? When

596
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: we just saw him do it. I know it's a

597
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: small sammsize, it's three quarters of football. But everything you

598
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: said he can do, he just did. Matter of fact,

599
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: he just did when we already saw him do at

600
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: Jackson State. He just did when we saw him do

601
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: at Colorado.

602
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: We just did.

603
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: Even though it's a small samside. Uncle, I played the

604
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: game for a very long time. I played the game

605
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: for a very long time. I'm a receiver. I know

606
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: what it's supposed to look like. I know what it

607
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: looks like when there's a quarterback that's playing in a

608
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: game and he's confident, he's polished his pocket, presence, his mannerisms.

609
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: I know what it should look like. We've seen Kenny

610
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: Pickett with the Steelers. If he was the answer for Cleveland.

611
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: He would have been the answer in Pittsburgh. No, what

612
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: was What's the question you're asking?

613
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Because if Guinea Pickett is the answer, if Kennick Pickett

614
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: is the answer, I need to know the question.

615
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: Did he play for the University of Pittsburgh? Yes, I don't,

616
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't.

617
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what more.

618
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know what more.

619
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: Listen when you when you when you fill out your resume,

620
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: right when you fill out your resume and you go

621
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: on for that job interview, you want to put your

622
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: best foot forward. You want to a lasting impression, correct

623
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: well impressions with what we saw Friday night from the

624
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: person they claim is the fourth is the fourth string quarterback? Yeah,

625
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: what do we do we build from that on Saturday?

626
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: Well, you build from that.

627
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: No, you build from that starting in practice by giving

628
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: him more reps, more quality reps. You don't leave him

629
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: in the position that he was in where he's getting

630
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: a handful of reps with the threes and fours. You

631
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: give him some opportunities with the ones, with the tooths.

632
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you he has to take five six

633
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: reps with the ones, but I'm saying you sprinkle maybe

634
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: you give him one or two reps, maybe.

635
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: You give him three or four ref with the twos.

636
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: I do agree with this.

637
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: Until we see Sanders get practice ref with the number

638
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: one offense, we can't believe the Browns view him as

639
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: having much of a shot to be number two where

640
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: the season began. True, I do agree with that statement.

641
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: You're not going from four to two. If you four

642
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: training camp, then all of a sudden the season start

643
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: your number two. They're gonna need to see you with

644
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: the ones and twos to fill comfortable because they got

645
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: to make a decision. And when you make that decision

646
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: you release somebody. Ain't no guaranteed that you're gonna be

647
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: able to bring them back and put them on your

648
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: practice squad. Somebody might sign them and put them on

649
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: the active roster. So that's the case, O Joe. Do

650
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: I stay on your practice squad for say twenty five

651
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: thirty thousand, or do I go somewhere and get an

652
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to get a real roster spot and make almost

653
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: a million dollars a year. So that's the question that

654
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: you have. That's a decision that you make when you

655
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: release these guys. Because I'm sure there's some guys.

656
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: You know.

657
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: I would love to have him to have another year

658
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: learning our system and when we come back next year,

659
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: having the OTAs, the training camp, the season of working

660
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: scout team stuff, when we come back for OTA's OHO,

661
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: he should be good to go. He should be fully

662
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: developing good to go. So I don't want people thinking

663
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: that we're beating OHO and now beating up on Zach Jackson.

664
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: I agree with what he's saying, But my thing, I'm

665
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: more talking about the Browns as a as an organization,

666
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: as a coaching staff. Are you are you are? Because

667
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: the fans are saying you want us to believe you?

668
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Or are lying? Eyes?

669
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh? I know, I know. I know what my eyes

670
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: I saw. I know what I saw. I hear what

671
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: you saying, but I see better than I hear. Come on, now,

672
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: y'all keep telling us Dylan Gabral, Dylan Gabriel, but we

673
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: have yet to see him. Now, everything that I see

674
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: is that now he's you know, she's not better than

675
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: you do it. For most of the articles that I've

676
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: been reading at eight, people can write whatever they want

677
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: to write, so I don't want to put too much emphasis.

678
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: But I haven't seen I haven't read a whole lot

679
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: that where they said that Dylan Gabriel is better, has

680
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: been played, has played better, or playing better than you do.

681
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: What did I tell you? I tell you not too

682
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: long ago. Yeah, of how Cam looked. Yeah, I'm not

683
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: saying those names again this time because I don't want

684
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: to get nobody in no trouble. What did I tell you? Yeah?

685
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: And then exactly what that individual said, who's in there

686
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: every day that plays on the other side of the

687
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: ball and has to see it, exactly what he said

688
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: way back then, we saw it show up, the fact

689
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: that he not getting first team refs with the ones

690
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: of the tools and still went out there and looked

691
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: the way he did. What does that tell you?

692
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: With damn the one tools? Oh Joe, he barely getting

693
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: reps at all? And then stick, Okay, I'll say no more.

694
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: Again, say no more, so you're not doing him justice

695
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: in practice. But still showed up in the game and

696
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: looked the part and looked like that. What does that say?

697
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: But we gonna see Saturday, and I hope Delan Gabriel

698
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: gets his opportunity because I would love to see what

699
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 3: he does and then what he gives that offense, and

700
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: that that coach of staff that believes in him. I'm

701
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: hoping he gets a fair shot. I'm hoping he does.

702
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm hoping he does. I would love to see it.

703
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: I would love to see it. I know he's a competitor.

704
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: He was great at Orgon. He was really good. So

705
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: I'm all, I'm all for it.

706
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's let the guy like.

707
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: It's like when you in that situation, the guy flashes. Normally,

708
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: when guys flashes in camp, Oh, Jo, you and I

709
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: both played the NFL for a long time.

710
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: We both played at a high level.

711
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: Every team that I've been on, when a guy flashes

712
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: in practice, a guy flashes in the game, get he

713
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: gets to move up, and he gets meaning for reps,

714
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 2: more meaningful reps, meaning he's no longer on the third

715
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: or fourth. They'll sneak some reps in with the two's.

716
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll give him one or two shots at with

717
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: the ones. That's normally how it works. They're not so

718
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: setting their ways that it's like, oh, we just see

719
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: this guy as It's kind of like TD. I give

720
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: a private example. TD was a guy. TD was a

721
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: sixth round draft pick. TV was probably like the fifth

722
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: or the sixth running back. But every day he made

723
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: that play on kickoff, and every day you saw TV

724
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: get a little better. He gave him a little bit

725
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: more reps, and so all of a sudden he go

726
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: from six to five, from nine to four, four to two.

727
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: After the first game of the season TD one. Yeah,

728
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: normally that's how it plays out. Guys show you in

729
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: the game, because when guy's flashing practice on Joe, you're

730
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: thinking to yourself, I wonder if he do that in

731
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: the game.

732
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Hell, coach, put his ass in the game. Let's see

733
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: what he could do. Right. That's that's normally how it happened.

734
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: Wade Phillips, our defensive coordinator, That's how I got in

735
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: the game. He said, Dan put his ass in the game.

736
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: Let's see if they can cover it, because we can't.

737
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: Damn. Like, Okay, they put my ass in the game.

738
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well your door. I think Shador showed you something

739
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: that he deserved it. I'm not saying he needs to

740
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: you need to implement him as the starter the number one.

741
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I didn't.

742
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: We didn't say that. That's not what we're saying. But

743
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: I think he's shown you enough. Friday just says, you

744
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: know what, we might need to give him some more

745
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: quality reps with guys that's going to be playing on Sunday.

746
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: And let's see him facing the number one defense Miles Garrett,

747
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: those guys over there. But let's give him Jerry Judy,

748
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Let's give him in Djoku. Let's see if he can

749
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: replicate some of that what he did on Friday with

750
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: the ones today. Yeah, that's all we're saying.

751
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: And can I can I say one more thing? Go ahead,

752
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: if you can do what he did without getting the

753
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: practice reps in a game without the number ones around him,

754
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: things only get easier when you have the ones at

755
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: your disposal that are better at the position Cedric Tillman

756
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: and Jokub Jerry. It only becomes easier. It doesn't get

757
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: more difficult. Now, once you're playing against the team that's

758
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: scheme for you and disguises and and does all the

759
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 3: all the stuff you know, the game planning for you. Okay,

760
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: that's different. Then you just have to process a little

761
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: bit faster.

762
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: Yes, but it is.

763
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: It's vanilla. They line up and they just go.

764
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: That's exactly how it is. You get better at something

765
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: by doing said thing.

766
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly hear what you just said, you get better

767
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: or something by doing said thing, but he wasn't doing

768
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: said thing because he's right and still look the way

769
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: he did.

770
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: I agreed. I you agree.

771
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: They don't view it that way. They that organization, they

772
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: don't view it that way. How, I don't know. I

773
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: don't know, but I'm guessing in the in the in

774
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: the direction in which they're going, hoping they're right. They

775
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: haven't been right in the thirty five quarterback that they

776
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: tried previously. Or maybe I'm wrong.

777
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: No, I just think I do believe that he's earned

778
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: the right to get quality reps with the ones and twos.

779
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you implement him that now he's

780
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: QB one. I'm not saying it's QB two maybe, but

781
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I think he's earned that opportunity.

782
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: I know one thing. I know one thing. They better

783
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: put a statue of Andrew Berry outside that god damn stadium. Yeah,

784
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 3: I tell you that. I listen. I can already foresee

785
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: how it's gonna go. I already know how it's gonna go.

786
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: I can already see it. They gonna continue to play,

787
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: continue to play, continue to play. Put everybody in front

788
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: of him continue to play, and then when his opportunity

789
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: presents itself, like it did because of injury, he looked

790
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: a certain way. You can't deny it. No, you can't

791
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: deny it. No matter what you try to do, you

792
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: can't deny it. You can't.

793
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: Oh Joe and Cleveland doing this.

794
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes a man can make his destiny on the very

795
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: road he took to avoid it. Sometimes you might they

796
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: might even have their quarterback even though they tried to

797
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: avoid giving.

798
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: Him the opportunity.

799
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: Come on, now, come on now, on the very road

800
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: you took to avoid it, you found your destiny.

801
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I just.

802
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm general manager. I'm not saying I'm

803
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: a player personnel director. I just know that when guys

804
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: flash go.

805
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Back to Tom Brady. They kept four quarterbacks that year.

806
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kach Belichick said that he saw something in Tom

807
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: that said, if he got more of an opportunity, he

808
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: might be.

809
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: Okay, he didn't know he was gonna be this hell.

810
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: If he knew he was gonna be that, somebody would

811
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: have taken him in the the first pick of the draft. Right,

812
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: But he flashed enough, guys, you know a late round picks. Okay,

813
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: like he's showing something. He just sometimes you just need time.

814
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes you need more opportunity, you know, looking at Trey

815
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: Lambs tray lamps like he needed time, time which the

816
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: forty nine ers didn't have.

817
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers are on the clock.

818
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: They got to win now with the roster that they have,

819
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: they're not in rebuild. Well, the Cleveland what do you are?

820
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: I mean, you just gave a guy one hundred and

821
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: forty million dollars. He's under the assumption now he played

822
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: it both ways. You know, I want out y'all not winning?

823
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: Got the money? Hey, but what are y'all? What are

824
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: y'all doing? Are y'all in rebuild or you're trying to win?

825
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: Because y'all see who's in yall division? Lamar Jackson and

826
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Now, Lamar Jackson is twenty seven, twenty eight,

827
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: got an he got another five to ten years in Baltimore.

828
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow might be a year younger than Lamar. He's

829
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: got another five to ten years in Cincinnati. Well, while

830
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: y'all playing musical chairs with quarterbacks, they've identified their guy

831
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: and he's gonna be there for the almost a decade.

832
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: You're not beating a team that has an established quarterback

833
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: playing musical chairs with quarterbacks.

834
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: No, uh uh, not at all, not at all.

835
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: I listen.

836
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: I mean it's it is. It's exciting. It's exciting. And listen,

837
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: even if as a as a Bengal fan, as a

838
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 3: Bengal player at heart, it's it's.

839
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: Enjoyable to be talked about the Brown.

840
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: It's enjoyable.

841
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Huh.

842
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 3: It's it's exciting. It's it's exciting for for for Brown fans.

843
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean, when's the last time you had a player

844
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: of this magnitude, who's a rookie that has you guys

845
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: in the national spot like that, this at all at

846
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: all times.

847
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, you got to go back to Johnny football.

848
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: Oh, hey boy, Johnny boy. Johnny was special boy. Yeah,

849
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: now a Texas him, Johnny was special, bro, You were special.

850
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: So it's uh, we'll we'll see. It'll be interesting to

851
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: see when they go out to practice today. I mean

852
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: to excuse me today tomorrow, what comes back? What type

853
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: of uh did your door get? Did he get rep

854
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: with the ones? Did he get a report two with

855
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: the ones? Did he get anything with the two's or

856
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: was he back relegated to be in the fourth quarterback

857
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: and getting one rep with the with the Fords or

858
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: no reps or just getting sidework. That's gonna be the

859
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: tail that that's gonna tell us, So Joe, Yeah, because

860
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: what they're talking and and and and what's actually happening,

861
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: we'll find out. We'll find out, and we'll see what

862
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: they do. How they played this thing out on Saturday

863
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: when they play the game New Orleans, Well, y'all lot

864
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: a heap of trouble Spencer Rattler, mm hmm. So if

865
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: you just take that R and put a D. Yeah,

866
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: that's what Saints fans, that's what y'all gott to look

867
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: forward to.

868
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: Uh. And the preseason opened.

869
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Despite throwing the pick six, rookie Tyler Shuk comes up

870
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: a bench and outplays Rattler. If you could believe that,

871
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: it's kind of like getting bit by water Moccason or Rattlesmith.

872
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: It's just how close are you to anna venom?

873
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean, both gonna hurt, right, both gonna get and

874
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: excruciating pain. Swilling will be immediately shortness of breath. Yes,

875
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 2: that's what you get with these two quarterbacks. I don't

876
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: know why they didn't. I hope Kellen Moore who's a

877
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winning offensive coordinator.

878
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: I he signed a long, long, long.

879
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: Term deal R six years because it's gonna be a

880
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: while with those two quarterbacks. Yes, they win before they

881
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: win same quarterback. In the first preseason game, Ratler was

882
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: seven of eleven fifty three yards, zero touchdown, zero inception,

883
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: but he did lose a fumble. Tyler shuck fifteen or

884
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 2: twenty two one sixty five, one touchdown, one pick six.

885
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I go ahead till.

886
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: You think wait, listen, listen, listen. While I was watching

887
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: the game to day before the game, before the game started,

888
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: I threw out a tweet to Saints fans. I have

889
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: a lot of Saints fans that follow me on Twitter,

890
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: excuse me that followed me on X and the question was,

891
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: are you guys optimistic about Spencer Rattler as quarterback number one?

892
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: And all the answers were unanimous and saying that they

893
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 3: don't believe in them, and there were a few that said,

894
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm optimistic about him. He can improve

895
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: in his second year. So based on the small sample side,

896
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: we were able to see from Spencer Rattler today and

897
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: didn't look promising. But again it is a preseason. It

898
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: is a preseason, maybe a little rusty, first time out

899
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: against competition outside of yourself. So I want to give

900
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 3: him a little grace. I want to give him a

901
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 3: little grace. But he's yeah, I know what you mean.

902
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 2: He started, he started real games last year. I would

903
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: expect him to look a little better the second time around,

904
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: and a vanilla type game plan than a rookie. Then

905
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: Saint Jackson Dark say your door, Sanders say some of

906
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: these even Okay, if Shove's gonna struggle, okay, I get that.

907
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: He's a rookie first time playing in the NFL, not

908
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: a guy that started games in the NFL to play

909
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: that that.

910
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean listen, it looked, it looked rough.

911
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: But last year watching Spencer Raller, he played bad times,

912
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: but at times he showed flashes of what he can do.

913
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: What what we have to find. He has to find

914
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: that that that happy medium, that keel of balance of

915
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: constistency where it doesn't drop below the bar. The standard

916
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: has to be the standard of consistency. He hadn't found

917
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: that yet. Obviously, I'm not gonna panic. I'm not saying

918
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 3: I'm a Saints fan, but just for his sake. I

919
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 3: think quarterback number one is Spencer Raller. I don't see

920
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 3: a rookie beating him out. Obviously it looked good, Tyler, how.

921
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 4: Do you said? Pronounced last name Tyler shuck?

922
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: Obviously probably going against the threes in the four. Once

923
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: he did get into the game, you would look a

924
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: certain way, you would look a little better in that manner.

925
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: But I think Spencer Raler is an answer for them,

926
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: and it's it's it's unfortunate. But again, this small samba size,

927
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't panic right now, being that everything is so vanilla,

928
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 3: but the fact that it is vanilla, you should look

929
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: the par you should look the part with it being

930
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: your your your second.

931
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: Second, yeah, second year. Yeah, I think the thing is

932
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: was for me.

933
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler's style of play will eventually get him cut

934
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: in a coach fired. That's what happens when you're not

935
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 2: consistent at that position. Yeah, yeah, because that position gets

936
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 2: coaches fired quicker than anything, get general managers terminated quicker

937
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: than anything.

938
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: Now they felt.

939
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: Comfortable enough they it's like, okay, we're gonna wait till

940
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: the I think they got shook in the second round,

941
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: second or third round they's like, we like Spencer, Spencer Rattler.

942
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: They like him. Uh.

943
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: He was a highly sought after guy. Went to the

944
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: University of Oklahoma. Uh, you know, and then Kayleb Williams came.

945
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: He transferred to goes to the univers of South Carolina.

946
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: So he has some arm talent, but he's he's just

947
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: a little inconsistent for my take, And it's hard to

948
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: win when you don't get consistency out of that position,

949
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: because eventually it will get him cut and it'll get

950
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: the coach fired. Because we had Richard Smith used to

951
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: tell us all the time, he says, that type of

952
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: play will get you cut and get me fired. I

953
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: can't get any better because all I can do is

954
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: just give you what you should be doing. It's incumbent

955
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: upon you. He's kind of, you know, loose with the

956
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: ball is easily knocked out of his hands.

957
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: He turns it over. But this is what the Saints

958
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: he looked.

959
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: What happened was is that when you have quarterbacks like Breeze,

960
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: and you have quarterbacks like Manning, and you have quarterbacks

961
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: like Brady, you don't want to waste the guy.

962
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: So you're picking guys in the fourth or fifth round, and.

963
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: You're letting them sit with no chance of getting you know,

964
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: not doing anything. And so when those guys move on,

965
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: now you gotta rush. They tried James Jamos tears his knee.

966
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: They tried Taysom Hell. But I ever thought Taysom Hill

967
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: was a quarterback. He was very good in the role

968
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: that he was in as a jack. He'll play a

969
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: little quarterback, he'll a little full back, he could play

970
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: some tight end. He's good on special teams. He's a jack,

971
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: do a lot a multitude of things. But I didn't

972
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: think he was a specialist or a great quarterback. So

973
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: I never thought that experiment was going to work. I

974
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: think James could have been good, but jamis towards me,

975
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: and then they kind of moved They kind of moved

976
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: on from Jambs the way I look at I think defensively,

977
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: they might be a little you know, they might be

978
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: a little better than starting to get a little little older.

979
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: Honey Badger retired Jordan Cam Jordan. I think he's going

980
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: into what it is, fifteenth season. He's in that twenty

981
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 2: eleven class with von Miller and JJ Wall all those guys.

982
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: But in that division, you gotta get better because Tampa.

983
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: Tampa's gotten better, I think Atlanta's gotten better. They have

984
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: and so I just don't believe that the quarterback that

985
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: the Saints won't needs that can get them to where

986
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: they want to be a consistent team. You know, a

987
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: team that wins consistently, that can get to the playoffs

988
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: and maybe win a game or two in the playoffs.

989
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't believe that quarterback is on their roster.

990
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either. I think heavily. I

991
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: think for the sake of Spencer Rattler, I think the

992
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 3: fact that he has Alba Kamara to take some of

993
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: the pressure off of him. You have Rashid Shaheed, you

994
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: have Chris o'lave. I'm not sure who the number three

995
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: will be there, obviously, but I think his job will

996
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 3: be a little easier because of the talent he has

997
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: around him.

998
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: Chris o'lave is.

999
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: A very very good receiver, is a burner. He's a

1000
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: very very good receiver. Now to be Kellen Moore to

1001
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: put those players in positions to be able to make

1002
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: sure a Spencer Raller doesn't get him fired. You know,

1003
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: there's one thing you can do is when you have

1004
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: a quarterback as bad as them based on their play.

1005
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: You have to find a way to hide their weakness.

1006
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: You have to find a way to hide their weaknesses.

1007
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: And it's easy to do when you have players of

1008
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: that magnitude. Alba Kamara is still one of the best

1009
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: in NFL.

1010
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna let him beat me. I'm gonna

1011
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: make Spencer Ratler throw the football.

1012
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay, but listen, that's the thing. If you, if you,

1013
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: if you're gonna go into game saying, you know what,

1014
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make Spencer Ratley beat me. I like his

1015
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: chances with Crystal Lobby and Rashishi he I like it.

1016
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: I like it.

1017
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: What was their record last year? Oh shit?

1018
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 3: Oh but hey, you know what the number three is?

1019
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks.

1020
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, now, come on now.

1021
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he's He's not the Brandon cook that

1022
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: was first in New Orleans, or the Brandon Cooks that

1023
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: was in New England, or even the Brandon Cooks that

1024
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 2: with the Rams.

1025
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean think, oh damn, he's been like fourteens in

1026
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: the last four years.

1027
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, you can still run. He still run,

1028
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: he can still get deep, he can still do his thing.

1029
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: In the slot.

1030
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: You know, I hate using the word serviceable, but you

1031
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: can put them in a position.

1032
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: To make plays, right that that that's it. I know,

1033
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 2: what was the last year the Saints? I mean offensive line?

1034
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: How good is the offensive line gonna be to be

1035
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: able to protect him?

1036
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: Right?

1037
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: I mean they gave up five sacks today.

1038
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: They were five and twelve last year, Ojoe, that's tough.

1039
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: That's tough.

1040
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: Look, everybody's running vanilla vanilla offense, vanilla defense, vanilla special teams.

1041
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody's showing anything. Nobody's trying to put anything on tape.

1042
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: That's gonna be extraordinary, right, Spencer Rattler having played, I

1043
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: just expect it's kind of like a second year guy. Now,

1044
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: second year guy makes a mistakes, the coaches are gonna

1045
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: be harder on him because he's already gone through this

1046
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: the previous year. Bro, you've already if Spencer Ratler played

1047
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: in real games. Sometimes don't your guys get on the

1048
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: practice squad, They don't get off that and then they

1049
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: come back and they have to go through the thing again.

1050
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 2: But Spencer Rattler has been in meaningful ball games. He's

1051
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 2: actually played in the regular season and played it regular

1052
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: season games, so I would expect him to.

1053
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: Look a little sharper than what he did now.

1054
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: He was only I mean, he only threw seven passes,

1055
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: and so he's probably only in their fourteen to fifteen plays.

1056
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: The question is long term because that's what that's what

1057
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: we're getting down to. Because the long term, No, No

1058
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: Afield is Tampa's long term solution. Atlanta believe Pennick Junr

1059
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: is their long term solution. Bright Carolina believe Bryce Young

1060
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: is their long term solution. The question is now based

1061
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: on what they did now, maybe they believe Shuck is

1062
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: going to be able to come in and unseat Spencer

1063
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: Rattler and be their long term solution. But in order

1064
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: to win at this level, at that level in today's game,

1065
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: you got a quarterback because you know why, O Joe,

1066
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: Because he's the one position that you cannot hide.

1067
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If I got a week corner, I

1068
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: roll coverage. Yeah.

1069
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: If I got a weak safety, I'll keep him. I

1070
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: put his ass down in the box, I keep him

1071
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: out of the hole.

1072
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1073
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: Okay.

1074
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: If I got to if I got an offensive lineman

1075
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: outslide protection, I'll chip the back. I'll say, hey, you

1076
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: make sure you chip your way out right, so I

1077
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: can find ways to protect a weakness if it's something.

1078
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: Other than the quarterback.

1079
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't hide the guy that has the ball

1080
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: every single time.

1081
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, But I like I like that you

1082
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 3: said that. For some reason, I'm thinking from an offensive perspective,

1083
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: thinking as myself as a receiver and the quality the

1084
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 3: quality of receivers they have, you know, in in New Orleans,

1085
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Chris Olave, Rashid, he Brandon Cooks.

1086
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: They're so good.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember the tightest name. He's a very good

1088
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 3: service of tight end as well. I can't remember his

1089
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: last name. But I'm thinking that they can be put

1090
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: in positions to be able to hide the weakness that

1091
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler may have, whatever it may be. That's that's

1092
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: that's what I'm thinking. That's my thought process, you know.

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00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: And as an officer coordinator, whoever off the coordinator is,

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00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm not.

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00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: Kelling Moore as the head coach. He offers the coordinator

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00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: for Philly.

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00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: He's called the plays too.

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00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, listen, man, listen.

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00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 3: I don't want to lose my job.

1100
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: So what do I need to do?

1101
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: I need to use those around me. I need to

1102
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: use those weapons, put them in advantageous positions because my

1103
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: quarterback is not as good as i'd like.

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00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: Right.

1105
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: Juwan Johnson and Taysom Hill are tight ends.

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00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: Oh, Jawan Johnson A he nice, a young, young, young,

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00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: young young.

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00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: He's more of an f more of the age back type.

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00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: Got you know, got receiving skills, got uh uh, more

1110
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: of a move tight end. Tasom Hill is the same thing.

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00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: You can do a lot of different things with Taysom Hill.

1112
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: You can put him at full back. You can, Hey,

1113
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: you bring him in and run the to you push

1114
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: with him, you know, you can throw him the football.

1115
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: You can do a lot of things with him. And

1116
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 2: Kelly Moore has a very creative mind. But you've got

1117
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: to get consistent play from the quarterback position because it's

1118
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: the one position you can't hide. Eventually, I'll figure you

1119
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: out and I'll make I'll make him beat me.

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00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: I'll make him beat me and I'll see if he

1121
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: can do it. Hey, that that's tough. That's tough. It is.

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: And the fact that I asked that question in ninety

1123
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: percent of the Saints fan we're like, it's going to

1124
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 3: be a long year. We might win four games.

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00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: He we won five.

1126
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: Last year. We're still having we're still haven't addressed the

1127
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: position that is the most important that we do need.

1128
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: And obviously it took Tyler Shuck and what second round.

1129
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: I think they took him. It took him in a

1130
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: second round.

1131
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 3: Forty second Okay, Yeah, so I'm assuming I'm not sure

1132
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: what they saw on film from him as opposed to

1133
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: what we saw on film from twelve. But listen that

1134
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 3: that conversation. It's like beating the dead horse. They saw

1135
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: what they saw. I'm not sure the scouts were until

1136
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: he So maybe he is, Maybe he is. We'll we'll

1137
00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: find out.

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: Yep.