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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten, touched up. Welcome to Chargers Weekly,

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Speaker 1: our final day of combine conversations. What a great way

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Speaker 1: to kick it off, old friend. We spent seven straight

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Speaker 1: hours on the field together in your maiden voyage of

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Speaker 1: combine coverage. Longtime front office obviously executive with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: with the Dolphins as the thirty thirteen. You see him

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Speaker 1: all over ESPN. He hustled over after just getting off,

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Speaker 1: get up to be with us. It's Mike ten about

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Speaker 1: how are you, Mike great?

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Matt, that's the boy that

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Speaker 2: was a minute ago, and I appreciate your patience with me.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, we all had to have patients that day.

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Speaker 1: We used to do every single drill, every single forty

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Speaker 1: we'd sit on the field, and so let's start there,

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Speaker 1: like what you know, you know it better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: What do you take away from the combine? How has

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Speaker 1: it changed what you think front offices take away from

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Speaker 1: the combine than when you were in a front office

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Speaker 1: doing it or even whatever that was seven eight years

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Speaker 1: ago that we were looking at, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: these guys doing everything on the field.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think the movement skills are still really

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Speaker 2: important and I you know, a little bit old school,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think there's any downside to being here

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Speaker 2: and seeing those drills like and where things change. You know,

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Speaker 2: less teams are coming, you know, Rams most notably aren't here.

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Speaker 2: Reportedly Atlanta only sent like their defensive side. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the interviews are still critical obviously the medical

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Speaker 2: but you want to see the tape match what you

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Speaker 2: see athletically, and when you can check those boxes, that's

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Speaker 2: when you feel even better about you know, what you

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Speaker 2: should do from a draft choice.

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Speaker 1: Standpoint, would love to kind of have you share with

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Speaker 1: the people watching and listening, just sort of the mechanics

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Speaker 1: or I don't know if that's the right word, just

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Speaker 1: the timeline of a front office executive when you've got

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Speaker 1: your own free agents, just kind of speaking in context

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Speaker 1: of the Chargers, you got Slayter, what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: do with Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack versus free agency opens?

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Speaker 1: How do you attack that? And then how does the draft?

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Speaker 1: How do those three things kind of fall in line? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I thought the Chargers at you know, had a grand

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Speaker 2: slam last year at April US, Like, you know, they

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Speaker 2: were sitting there and we had Mike Williams, Keenan Allen

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Speaker 2: had the two pass rushers. What are we going to

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Speaker 2: do with some cap challenges? And I thought they did

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Speaker 2: everything right. You know, I thought keeping the defensive guys

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Speaker 2: last year, and you know it's funny, I was screaming

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Speaker 2: for the mountain tops that you know Jim's gonna take.

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Speaker 2: You know, John all with his first pick. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's an ultimate Jim Harbaugh player. And you know they

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Speaker 2: hit on McConkey, you know, Quentin Johnson. I thought got better.

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Speaker 2: Still a little bit of a work in progress, and now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it starts up front, like I think the

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Speaker 2: Slayers of the World those are that's Jim, like going

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Speaker 2: back to the University San Diego Stanford obviously what he

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Speaker 2: starts up front, and I don't think that'll change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of so let's kind of go there.

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Speaker 1: So we've had Joe Ortis say maybe move Zion to center,

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Speaker 1: just kind of what you saw from Zion and how

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Speaker 1: that might because certainly the interior of the line it

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Speaker 1: kind of what's the thought there when you start talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's a high character, smart player. I think

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Speaker 2: he could do it. And when you talk to most

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks they'll tell you, and I had the great fortune

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Speaker 2: tell you that quick interior pressure is the hardest pressure

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Speaker 2: to deal with. Certainly, Tom Brady felt that way. He

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Speaker 2: felt like the edge rush. You know, they can kind

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Speaker 2: I think, if I'm trying to defend Justin Herbert, I'm

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Speaker 2: I think Greg Roman, philosophically, that's what he wants to do.

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Speaker 2: Putting Zion there makes a lot of sense. If you

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Speaker 1: So it's just I guess in terms of how, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you could you also become a little bit

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Speaker 2: of the quarterback of the offensive line. You know, you're

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Speaker 2: and that's a critical position. I don't see any reason

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Speaker 1: So let's let's say maybe that it's perfect that you

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Speaker 1: lot of people are saying, oh, center center, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that's that might be the thing. Is it too rich?

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Speaker 1: Like if you you saw the Senior Bowl, everybody's talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Again, I he it's the offensive line. And you

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Speaker 2: you know, so you can, you know, you could take

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Speaker 2: incremental steps. It may not be ideal, but I think

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Speaker 2: their offensive line is a million miles ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so how about Okay, So then let's get to

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Speaker 1: the draft. And while we're here and at the combine

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Speaker 1: and picked twenty two, and man, we've seen it all.

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Speaker 1: Some mocks Hammy Ashton gent and Genty sliding there. I

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh told us as much. Right, they have like

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say, generally speak, I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: part because of what Barkley did, the value and obviously

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Speaker 2: the success they've had. And we saw Josh Jacobs, you

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Speaker 2: the impact he had, so them adding another running back

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Speaker 2: like that's such an on brand for Jim. Also, you

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Speaker 2: know some of the offensive lineman he talked about. And

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Speaker 2: then yeah, Colson Loveland, you know in the dock connecting

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Speaker 2: to trade back aget like pick go back four or

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Speaker 1: Don't mean, I hope this doesn't come off as me

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Speaker 1: New England ends up taking two receivers with those two

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Speaker 1: that does that? I don't want to say, does it

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Speaker 1: hurt a relationship?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: How does that factor into future conversation?

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Speaker 2: And look, I think they did a masterful job.

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you look at like those, you go

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Speaker 2: when you have an alted conky like they're going to

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like they work out a lot. So

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Speaker 1: Trey Smith, Milton Williams, some of these guys that fit

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Speaker 1: what the Chargers are looking for. They're gonna have eighty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a couple of times, like in Dominican

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Speaker 2: Sue was, you know, and he was a great player,

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Speaker 2: but you are paying a premium. I'd be shocked if

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Speaker 2: Tray Smith was out there. I can't imagine they won't

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Speaker 2: tag them in Kansas City. Bill Williams does make a

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Speaker 2: ton of sense, you know, building that defense for Jesse

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Speaker 2: Minner like they're they're that quick interior pressure most teams

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Speaker 2: can use, including the Chargers. But knowing Jim, I would

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Speaker 2: think he's gonna want to make sure that we have

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Speaker 2: enough money to take care of our own first.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that's what he said, He say he wanted

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Speaker 1: to break that is that reality said, Hey man, we

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Speaker 1: love this group. We want to bring everybody back. Is

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Speaker 1: that hard to do? Is that a common philosophy? You

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Speaker 1: like bringing your guys more than pulling other guys in.

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Speaker 2: You know, early in my career and I wasn't perfect

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Speaker 2: at this, but Coach Belichick had a great sort of

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Speaker 2: like guiding principle was like to the extent you can,

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Speaker 2: you know, the highest paid player in each room should

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Speaker 1: Well, that is something the Chargers are excited about. They've

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Speaker 1: got all the picks. We certainly appreciate it. Mike. We

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Speaker 1: know you got a busy day today and very much

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. All right, thanks so much. All right,

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Speaker 1: thanks Mike. So we go from one former front office

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Speaker 1: individual and Mike Tannebump to what I believe, considering the

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Speaker 1: way he is operating his youth football football team right now,

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Speaker 1: a future general manager in Bruce feld He doesn't fox,

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Speaker 1: he does it for the athletic. It's one of our

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Speaker 1: favorite conversations. It's one of the best podcasts around, the

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Speaker 1: one you do with Stu and obviously the Freaks List

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Speaker 1: is a centerpiece of the combine every year. So Bruce Feldman,

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Speaker 1: So freaks list every year it's awesome, Like it truly

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Speaker 4: carter out there like, that but like you, know, Look Mason, graham,

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00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,159
Speaker 4: homegrown you, know he's From. Are, yeah he's he's a

430
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 4: fantastic football. PLAYER i, MEAN i think he'll when he,

431
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 4: does you, know, WORKOUT i think he'll actually test better

432
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,439
Speaker 4: than people. Expect The michigan. GUYS i you, know like

433
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 4: there's a bigger freak on THAT d line In Kenneth, grant,

434
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 4: right you, know he's. Three When Kenneth grant, came who

435
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 4: was a three star guy From indiana who ended up

436
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 4: signing With, michigan AND i Saw harbaugh At big ten

437
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 4: media days AND i didn't know anything About Kenneth, grant

438
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 4: and he was like giddy about. It he said he's

439
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 4: at he weighed at three hundred and sixty pounds and

440
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 4: he ran in the four. Nines AND i couldn't believe that.

441
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 4: Yet but then talking to their you know they're some

442
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,239
Speaker 4: of their, players and then talking to the strength, COACH i,

443
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 4: MEAN i don't know where he. Goes my guess is

444
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 4: he goes somewhere between twenty and. Thirty so he could

445
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,120
Speaker 4: be there at twenty. Two, OH i think. So and

446
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 4: he's you, know six, three probably three. Forty he should

447
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 4: run in the four. Nines he's really. Explosive you want

448
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 4: to see something, Wild they Played Penn state last year

449
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 4: and he ran down one of their you, know outstanding running,

450
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 4: backs like twenty yards. Downfield he's AND i think he

451
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: has the potential he could getting better and better and.

452
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: Better BUT i definitely think he's a guy that they

453
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 4: could target and keep in. Mind you, know you Got,

454
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 4: elston who's the de line coach who coached him At.

455
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 4: Michigan you Got jesse who who's coached him At. Michigan Obviously,

456
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 4: Jim and AGAIN i go back to the first TIME

457
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 4: i ever heard of. Him it was it WAS i

458
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 4: think it was here At big ten media days And

459
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 4: jim was raving about. Him SO i don't, know it

460
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't shock. Me so let's let's. Flip let's kind of pair.

461
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 4: That then let's stick with like pick twenty two and

462
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 4: pair that with Another michigan guy that seems to be

463
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 4: Attagan In Colston lovelin and seems like a bit of

464
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 4: a freak as well at the tight end he. Is it's.

465
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 4: FUNNY i have a video on like My instagram of

466
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 4: so they're old. Quarterback he's now going to go TO

467
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 4: Unlv Alex, orgy super freaky, athlete not the most accurate, passer,

468
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 4: right but in the, background the next guy next to

469
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: him is Is. Loveland LOVELAND'S i grew up In. Idaho

470
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: he can really. Run he's almost like a big receiver

471
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 4: the way he could, run but definitely like a freaky.

472
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 4: Athlete he was hurt late in the, year but they

473
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 4: had no, receivers they had no passing. Game he was.

474
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: It so he was he was like a big priority

475
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 4: for the opposing. Defense and then you still make. Plays

476
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: they sometimes they'd be creative and throw it to a

477
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: to him on first down when you probably wouldn't double

478
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: a tight end because you think the runs come. In

479
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: BUT i think this is a terrific class of tight.

480
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: Ends you, know you certainly Have Tyler WARREN usc fans remember.

481
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 4: Him you, know he had like fifty catches against. Him

482
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 4: but then you Have, loveland WHO i think will be,

483
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 4: really really. GOOD i think there's four really good tight

484
00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 4: ends in. There Elijah royo From, miami and Then Taylor Aason,

485
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: Taylor Jason taylor's son who's AT. LSU i think all

486
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: four of those guys could be like our first round.

487
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 4: Talents but obviously the connection With loveland And, jim you,

488
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 4: know you go back a couple of years ago they.

489
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 4: Played they Played Ohio, state huge, Game michigan's really depleted injury,

490
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 4: wise And loveland had a huge play to kind of

491
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 4: break open the. Game like he is a guy who

492
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: can make big plays downfield and he could be a

493
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: really good weapon for.

494
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: Them, yes so it feels, like you, know, look that's

495
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: always part of the, calculus. Right it kind of was

496
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: what we were talking about last year with alt versus.

497
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 1: Neighbors it's, like, hey if you don't take the tackle,

498
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: here you're not going to get somebody at. Third but

499
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: if you don't take the wide, receiver feels like you

500
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: might and it obviously worked Out alton McConkey as opposed

501
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: To neighbors and whatever tackle might have been. There does

502
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: it feel that way, maybe like hey take that lineman

503
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: here at twenty two and then yeah you should be all. Right.

504
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: YEAH i Mean Elijah royo is a really dynamic. Athlete

505
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: he's a freakslist. Guy the only issue with him was

506
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: until this year he had been injured almost every. Year

507
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: but he's almost you, know he's six four and a,

508
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 4: half he's two. Fifty he runs like a wide. RECEIVER

509
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: i mean he Is he is a really elite, athlete

510
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 4: and you saw him at The Senior. Bowl people couldn't cover.

511
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: Him miami guys raved about. Him this, year he would

512
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: BE i think he will be there late in the first.

513
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 4: Round it's just a matter of who likes. What would

514
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: he be there at fifty, five you think or, NO

515
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 4: i doubt. IT i think he's gone by. THEN i

516
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 4: think all. FOUR i Think Mason taylor will definitely be

517
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 4: gone by, then unless something like there's some huge character

518
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: thing that comes, up or like an old injury that's

519
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: people are skittish. ON i don't. THINK i really Doubt

520
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 4: arroyo's there after.

521
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: Forty, Right so THEN i guess you get Into, gunner

522
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: Elm fan and those sort of. Guys but let's, go

523
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: let's stay with the. Freaks seems like we have some

524
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: freaky running backs in here as. Well.

525
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely you know this is a good group of running.

526
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: Backs Obviously ashton gent someone Comparatively Danian. Tomlins, yeah you

527
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: know what that's, crazy? RIGHT i Mean, Naggie Jim, naggie

528
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: you know who ran The senior goal and now going To.

529
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 4: Oklahoma BUT i talked To jim late spring and that

530
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: was his comp and he didn't want to put it

531
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 4: out because it's like such a big. Name and then you,

532
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 4: know your Friend petros did a lot of those. Games

533
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 4: and So Dirk cutter was the offensive, coordinator And Dirk

534
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: cutter had a had an interesting. Comparison he was like

535
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 4: to a player he had. Coached he was, like he's

536
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 4: like MJ.

537
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: D and.

538
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 4: Obviously MJ d had a terrific career In, jacksonville you,

539
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: know and he was amazing AT. UCLA i think gent's

540
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: probably a touch. Taller, yeah most people are, yeah, yeah you,

541
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: know Like i'm guessing he's five five eight not five.

542
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: Six but so he's really. Good Caleb johnson from From,

543
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: iowa like one of the COACHES i talked to. Yesterday

544
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 4: they met with. Him they really liked. Him he is

545
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 4: a punishing hunner and he was a he's a dynamic.

546
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 4: Back omari And. Hampton he'll run really. WELL i mean

547
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 4: he's probably two twenty five and he'll run in the four.

548
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 4: Fours the biggest freak speed guy to me of the

549
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 4: backs is by Shell. Touton he started out his career

550
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: As North carolina eight and he transferred To Virginia. TECH

551
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: i would not be surprised if he ran four two. Nine,

552
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: Here come, on he is a as soon as he

553
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: gets the ball and he gets. Increased no one's catching.

554
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: Him guy right, NOW i my gut is he is

555
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: a the two and a one to two punch because you,

556
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: know he's two hundred five. Pounds he's not not that.

557
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: Big but then there's you, know he's the he is

558
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 4: the wow GUY i think here in terms of the

559
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 4: backs right, NOW i don't know if he's for everybody

560
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 4: because he's not that. Big but you, know there's some

561
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 4: interesting ones Like i'm curious to see you, know you

562
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: have A Donovan edwards in. There jim knows him really.

563
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: Well he was a huge. Recruit his career was very

564
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 4: up and, Down like he had a huge game two

565
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 4: years ago against The Ohio state ran for like one

566
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: hundred the yards in the fourth quarter. Alone he's a good,

567
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: receiver but he didn't really do a lot this. YEAR

568
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: i could see his, like you, KNOW i don't know

569
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 4: how far he, sinks but he's also a GUY i

570
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: would be, like, YEAH i wouldn't be shocked if he

571
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 4: was like better in THE nfl than he was in.

572
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: College, Yeah and that's and it's, funny like you just

573
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: rip off five six, guys and Then i'm thinking Like

574
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Dylan Sampson Cam, Scataboo like it just feels like it's

575
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: a REALLY i, mean you saw What marx is really? Good, yeah,

576
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: Exact Martin. NEIL i mean they just, say but so

577
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: let's stick With scataboo because he's so. Fun like if

578
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: there were a freaks list for just it's the fun. List,

579
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know if there's a PLAYER i liked

580
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: watching more in college, football ASS i.

581
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: KNOW i was watching they Played Iowa state in The

582
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 4: big twelve title game And i'm watching him just barrel over,

583
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: people AND i Texted. MINOR i was, LIKE i want

584
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: to write a story about. Him and so the. Story

585
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: the premise of the story was asking people when was

586
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: the first time you realize he's way? Different and the

587
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: first PERSON i talked to was his, dad and his dad,

588
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 4: had you, know crazy. Stories but THEN i had to

589
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: go back to A i, had like there was a

590
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: story where he's not yet three and his grandparents get

591
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: him a bike and the grandparents the grandfather's putting on

592
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 4: the training wheels and he's, like, no, no, No i'm

593
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: not doing. That i'm not and he's like fighting with.

594
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: Them and he was, like all, right well he's gonna

595
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: like learn the hard. Way he's gonna have to dust

596
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: himself off and he's gonna fall on his. Face and

597
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: so the dad was, like all of a, sudden he's

598
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: riding down the, street no hands and then stands up

599
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: on the. Bike AND i was, like this can't be.

600
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: True and THEN i talked to his older. Brother he was, like,

601
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: yeah all the neighbors saw. It it was like and

602
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 4: it was one story after another of these crazy. Things

603
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 4: he could do much less if you, want like go

604
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: on YouTube and google like the him and like the

605
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: state championship game he's up From sacramento and he breaks

606
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: like thirteen. Tackles, Yeah i've seen that. One it's, insane you.

607
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 4: Know and so do you think it? Translates does? THAT

608
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: i think it.

609
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Does.

610
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: NOW i don't think he turns Into Jim, brown BUT

611
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 4: i think he will be AN nfl running back BECAUSE

612
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 4: i could see him being a situational. Guy he's also really.

613
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 4: Versatile you. Know he COULD i mean you could say,

614
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: throw he could. Punt i'm not saying he's going to

615
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 4: be a teams, punter BUT i think he's just a

616
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: really good football. PLAYER i don't know how long he

617
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: holds up the style he. HAS i mean he's not

618
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: he's a squatty guy who's not like he's six. Too

619
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: like you, know people compare him to you, know made

620
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: The Matt Mike alstock comparisons because he's a punishing white running.

621
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: Back you, Know alstott was like sixty. Two, yeah he's not.

622
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: That he's five, nine probably two to twenty and he's

623
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: not why, yeah, yeah that's exactly like When Marcus arroyo

624
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: became the oct At Arizona. State he's friends With Cliff,

625
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: kingsbury And kingsbury was you, know they played him AT

626
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: usc and In kingsbury's like they got a beast of

627
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: a running back who's this soft, off little white, guy

628
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: and he was, like are you? Serious he was like,

629
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: yeah and he turned out to be way better than

630
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: anybody ever. Found.

631
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: It just it seems like a hardball kind of guy for.

632
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Sure and the hell with going out of, Bounds i'm

633
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna knock the safety out of the. Game it's just

634
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: hilarious to.

635
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: Watch by the, way there was LIKE i HAD i

636
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: had a freak a freakslist guy this. Year it's It's

637
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: Austin eckler's little. Brother oh, really, Yeah Wyatt, eckler he

638
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: was At he's At. Wyoming he's. Here he may jump

639
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: forty two inches Like Austin eckler could certainly obviously another

640
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: small school guy AND i went on to have a terrific.

641
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: Career but like a name for people to, like and

642
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: it's like a different spelled. White it's like why w

643
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: y e T T, yeah maybe small guy squatty guy,

644
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: there squad squatty wide, receivers another survey guy t. Mac

645
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 4: some people are saying he Might why would he? Slid

646
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: why do you think he would? Slide if some people

647
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: are starting project that is just the question of. SPEED

648
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: i think is like and from WHAT i was told last,

649
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: night he told people he's not going to run at,

650
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: All like he's not going to run here or at

651
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: his pro. Day he's got phenomenal ball, skills like like

652
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: the best you, know six four sixty, Five like he

653
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: was the guy everybody, Knew Noah, fafida his best friend

654
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: was going to go to him all the. Time his

655
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: timing is, remarkable like the THING i remember talking to him.

656
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: About and also Like Jimmy doherty who is like his

657
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: old coach At arizona who went up To washington was,

658
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: what Like jimmy was, like he probably has a forty

659
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: inch vertical and he was, like, no it's only like thirty.

660
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: Four people think it's higher than it's just because my

661
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: timing is really. Good and he's like a volleyball. Player

662
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: you can go on all like The instagram stuff and see,

663
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: like you know these volleyball jumpers where it's like the,

664
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: timing how they do, it how they you, know the

665
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: angle they do it to get so much force into the.

666
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: Ground AND i think he's taken that and really utilize

667
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: it to become such a. WEAPON i think he's. AWESOME

668
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 4: i think he's the best receiver in this. Draft you,

669
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 4: know whether he run really runs four six one four

670
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: or five. ONE i think he's gonna make a ton

671
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: of plays in THE. Nfl AND i, think you, know,

672
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: again he if he, slides it'll be because people are

673
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: gonna have a little bit of hesitation on his. Speed

674
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: and this isn't a good receiver draft in terms of

675
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: like last year you had four, high high level guys and,

676
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: look you, KNOW i live in Southern california and as you,

677
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 4: know mcconkey's you, know been, tremendous, incredible you, know AND

678
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: i think there's other guys you, know in the draft,

679
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: tour but so this isn't that. Draft like if if

680
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: T mack was in this, DRAFT i think he probably

681
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: in last year's, DRAFT i think he would have gone

682
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: ahead Of Brian. THOMAS i Think Brian thomas is not

683
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: quite as, big but he's big and he's definitely. Faster

684
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: but you, KNOW i, know he had a really good

685
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: year In, jacksonville BUT I i would like t mac

686
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: more than. Him but, yeah HE'S i think he's still

687
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: like a high level. Guy but after, HIM i think

688
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: it drops off a, lot missing. ANYTHING i feel Like

689
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: i've kept you way too. Long fastest quarterback who should

690
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: run here but probably won't from WHAT i heard last,

691
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: Night Jalen. MILROE i mean he could run in the

692
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: he should and could RUN i think in the four,

693
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: threes but he's not going to do it HERE i.

694
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: Heard so that's a little seems like that's a bad,

695
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: decision especially if you're really good at, running go do, It,

696
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: yeah especially if you're not projected as like people are

697
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: talking about Cam ward And. Shador they're not talking about

698
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: him in, That And i'm not saying if he ran

699
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: four three two then all of a sudden he would

700
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: be you, know, somebody go Are i'm going to take

701
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: him at eleven instead because he's super. Fast BUT i

702
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: think it probably would boost his stock because people are

703
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: going to look at it and, go, man that's a

704
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: weapon and you can do some stuff with you, know

705
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: a package with him if if you think you're going

706
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: to develop because he does have a really really strong

707
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: arm and he's very. Smart he's just really, inconsistent but

708
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 4: he can definitely.

709
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Speaker 1: it over there AT espn got the top fifty prospects

730
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: that just posted a couple days. Ago, matt we. Appreciated

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Speaker 3: Well i've only had one steak so, far one steak

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Speaker 3: we'll see how MANY i can.

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739
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Speaker 3: Think you, know we talk so much freer here at

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741
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Right, yeah you, know there's certain things you have to

742
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743
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744
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: drink too. Much, yeah some of us can attest, to

745
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: but you, know you learn that one night and then

746
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: you ADJUSTICE i learned early in this. Trip. Matt let's

747
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: start with just kind of your top fifty list and

748
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: what you, see how you see this draft as a,

749
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: whole where the depth is and where you're going to get.

750
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: Value this is a great draft at running, back tight,

751
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: end defensive, tackle and defensive. Endedgereshers some mean potatoes, draft,

752
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: Right there's not the, quarterbacks which you guys don't. Need

753
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: there's not the wide receivers in this, draft even the

754
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 3: Corner it is maybe not the most top heavy draft

755
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: that those positions that we have really gotten used to

756
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: having dominant draft classes. Of but this is a year

757
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: that you build your trenches and you can build that.

758
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: Foundation AND i think you know where The chargers are

759
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: at back in a round, one like there's gonna be

760
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: really good players on the, board BECAUSE i think the

761
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: cool thing about this draft is like the player THAT

762
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: i have like eleventh, overall and the PLAYER i have. Fortieth,

763
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: overall they're pretty much graded the. Same, okay there's a

764
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: really strong middle class in this, draft AND i think

765
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 3: that's going to be like the back end Of round

766
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: one all the way through round.

767
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Two there's really good. Depth and you, KNOW i mean

768
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: we were talking about it before you threw the headset. On,

769
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: look every team is. Different you're getting asked about different

770
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: players and how they fit for different. Franchises so you,

771
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: know The chargers saw. Him you Know Jim. Harbaugh you

772
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: watch a lot Of michigan football and kind of what

773
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: he built. There so as you maybe connect the dots of,

774
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: hey this player fits here because of the scheme they're,

775
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: running or the style of, player the type of football

776
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: player they. Want let's start a running. Back you, know

777
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: they've Basically jks a free, agent feels like they want

778
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: to bring him. Back they draft That kamani By dell

779
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: last year didn't get a lot of. Reps and then

780
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: you Have Gus edwards and Asan haskins don't know kind

781
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: of how that running back room is going to. Look

782
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: so as you look at this group of running, backs

783
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: kind of is there one that jumps out at you

784
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: that that you could Say, yeah that's that's A Jim

785
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: Harbaugh Greg roman type of.

786
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: Other Than Ashton Jens because if, so then, yeah Absolutely Ashton.

787
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: Gentz what's funny IS i actually think it's one of

788
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: the guys From Ohio, state Quin Shawn. Judkins it's, like

789
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: will we see An Ohio state player drafted By Jim.

790
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: Harball you, know probably it's gonna, happen, Right BUT i

791
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 3: Think judkins fits just because he has that downhill running.

792
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 3: Style he's able to find tough, yards contact balance is really.

793
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: GOOD i like Both Ohio state.

794
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: Guys Tragon henderson would be different because he's going to

795
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: give you a little more speed out of the. Backfield

796
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: he's a great, receiver he's really really good in pass.

797
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: Protection BUT i think With, harball LIKE i always go

798
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: back to Those niner days with Like Frank, Gore like

799
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: that's the kind of running BACK i think, about like

800
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: they want to pound the, ball they want a running

801
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: back that you don't want to tackle in the fourth,

802
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: quarter and that's That's. JUDKINS i, mean he's he's just

803
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: an animal and and he's that a guy in that

804
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: round two. Range so, right if we're talking round, one

805
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: Like gent's, off let's, Say gents's off the. BOARD i

806
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: don't think there's a guy you have to, draft and

807
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: one Like hampton's Good Caleb johnson would be a really

808
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: good fit out Of, iowa but this is such a

809
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: deep running back, CLASS i think you might be able

810
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 3: to find a guy later than round.

811
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: One so the other position that they're tied to a,

812
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: lot and it's under, understandable is his tight. End you

813
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: know you Had Will disley last. Year you asked him

814
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: to do a lot more than maybe you thought you

815
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: were going to ask him to do because of just

816
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: sort of the lack of pass catching. Options sort of

817
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: what do you see when you look at this this

818
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: tight end. Group, WELL i think you can go a

819
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: couple different. Ways it is a good tight end, Group

820
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: BUT i mean it's almost like there's two different tight end. Positions.

821
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: Now you, know you've got the big guys Like Tyler

822
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: warren From Penn, State Mason taylor FROM. Lsu then you've

823
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: got the athletes Like Colston, lovelin Who harball's obviously very

824
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: very familiar with because they're time together At. Michigan SO

825
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: i think it's the question, of, like what what do

826
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 3: you want from that position? Group and like you mentioned

827
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: With Will disley last. YEAR i don't know that we

828
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: know exactly what they're looking for. Yet you, know we

829
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: can look at What joe had In. Baltimore those type

830
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: Like Mark andrews is more of that, big physical tight

831
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: end that's more of a don't want to tackle me

832
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: instead of you can't tackle me type of. Player SO

833
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: i would, say Like Tyler warren fits that, mold he's

834
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: likely going to be off the board by the time

835
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: you guys. Pick But Mason taylor from LSU's in That

836
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: Terrence ferguson From. OREGON i think it's a round, two

837
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: round three player who's kind of means slept on a little.

838
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: BIT i can see him having a good week here

839
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 3: and pushing himself up. Boards but he's in that similar

840
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: type of. Mold, okay so let's go offensive. Line it

841
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: was something That Joe ortiz talked about in his press

842
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: for a couple of days ago about potentially Moving zion to,

843
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: center that that's something they're maybe going to explore this.

844
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: Offseason feels like interior offensive line is another so and

845
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: a lot of them are tackles right that we're talking

846
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: about being. Guards but it feels like that's a strength

847
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: of this.

848
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Draft.

849
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah if you look at all the short tackles in

850
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: this draft and, say, okay well you're probably a, guard

851
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: then the guard group gets real, deep real. Fast so

852
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: in even in round, one you, Know Will campbell FROM

853
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: lsu is going to come off the word. Early he

854
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: might be a. Tackle Kelvin banks From. Texas he was

855
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: a three year left tackle for The. Longhorn some teams

856
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: like him inside because he's a hair over six foot,

857
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: four even though he has longer. ARMS i Think Josh

858
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: connery From oregon could play guard and be really good.

859
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: THERE i, mean he's a good, tack but he could

860
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: be a really good guard as. Well Tyler booker From,

861
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: ALABAMA i mean he's a left. Guard he's played one

862
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: game at tackling, college but he is the definition of

863
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: plug and.

864
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Play so what do you mean by? That, like, like

865
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: what is because it seems Like Tyler booker is the

866
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: guy that everybody's talking. About Tyler booker is he's a.

867
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 3: Maler you, know his ability to control guys in front

868
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: of him in the run game is really. Impressive but

869
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: then he's athletic enough to like scrape and get to

870
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: the second. Level he arrives with, violence WHICH i love

871
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: from a, guard but he's also he's so athletic that

872
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: he's he gets there and he's under control and then

873
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: he just erases. Guys so his agility in space is

874
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: really really. Impressive but then he shows up with power

875
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: and some bad.

876
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Intentions, right and then how about later because you know

877
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times they'll, say, oh premium, position take

878
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: a tackle in round, one you, know take your guards

879
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: sort of in those later middle. Rounds is it a deep?

880
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: Group is? It because we know how important in the

881
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: value that the teams are putting on offensive line and

882
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: we're seeing more guards and centers go. Early but in

883
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: terms of you, know like you, said because you have

884
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: a lot of these tackle to guard, potential does it

885
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: look like there's value in those MIDDLE i think there will.

886
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: Be AND i like two guys From, Georgia Tate ratledge

887
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: And Dylan, fairchild and they're not being talked about as

888
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: like top seventy five picks for some. REASON i think

889
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: that might be due to. Injury so we'll see if

890
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: that gets cleared up this. WEEK i watched the tape

891
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: on both, guys especially in twenty twenty. Three they both

892
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: look like plug and play starters to. Me, now The

893
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: georgia run game wasn't as good this, year and it

894
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: was because both those guys were banged, Up but they

895
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: have three years of starting tape in THE sec and

896
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: they were all conference performers in THE. Sec that's a

897
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: pretty good indicator you're gonna be okay at the next.

898
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: Level SO i think both those guys have started. Potential

899
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: and if you talk about Rat ledge maybe round three

900
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: And fairchild could be maybe even early day.

901
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Three. Okay so we're just rolling through it now With

902
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: matt the one, position AND i don't know if it's

903
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: a thin position in the draft or just because we

904
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: have so much confidence In Steve, klinkscale our defensive backs,

905
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: coach that he can make anything. Work you had two

906
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: fifth round guys last, year so you, know let's start.

907
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: There let's start with kind of where you were at

908
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: with tar Heeeb still and Cam hart last. Year because

909
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: if you have corner that are capable of starting in THE,

910
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: nfl they're not going in the fifth. Round it's preat.

911
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Imposition so what were your thoughts on those two, guys

912
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: what you then saw them become in maybe a corner

913
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: or two that you would focus on that that seemed

914
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: to fit what they.

915
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: DO i THINK i had a seventh round grade On

916
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: tarry still real, HONESTLY i was, obvious way way too

917
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: low on. Him with Cam, HART i started with a

918
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: high grade on, him and IF i, remember he had an,

919
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: injury he did and then he ran slowly and it

920
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: knocked him down the. Board SO i went from like

921
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: round two on him when the season, STARTED i THINK

922
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: i ended up in round. Five so BUT i think

923
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: that's a great example of how much scheme matters and

924
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: understanding how to draft guys for your, scheme because if

925
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: they went somewhere, else they might if they went to

926
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: The rams instead of The, chargers they might not be

927
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: on the field. Right and SO i think being able

928
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: to identify that is so great for teams to, say, like,

929
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: hey that's.

930
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: Our kind of.

931
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: Guy now moving that, forward who fits that? MOLD i

932
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: Think Trey amos From ole miss would fit, that and

933
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: he's going to be a guy that goes probably in

934
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: the second. Round but he has the, length he's tough

935
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: at the line of. SCRIMMAGE i think he has a

936
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: little more speed than those guys did coming. Out BUT

937
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: i think that that's going to be something to watch

938
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: in draft number two for them As, okay what we're

939
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: starting to understand what they want of?

940
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: Positions?

941
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: Right how important is a guy who can run a

942
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: four to three or four to four?

943
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: Corner is that?

944
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: Important or are they you, know prioritizing, physicality a line

945
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, technique things like.

946
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: That you, Know AND i guess because we have you

947
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: and you have the knowledge base to kind of talk

948
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: about day, three, fifth, sixth seventh round just kind of

949
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: where do you think the depth? Is where where are

950
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: the big AND i guess in your, experience what are

951
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: kind of the smart? Picks is it? Traits is it?

952
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Production is it, hey small school guy that we're going

953
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: to see if he can make that? Leap kind of

954
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: what is? It do you have a? Philosophy is there

955
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: a right approach in the later?

956
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: Round AND i feel like in my job it, changes

957
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: right because we go through the ebbs and. Flows sometimes

958
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: it is like, hey on day, three that's when you

959
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: take a flyer on athletic ability and you hope you

960
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: can develop. It AND i think it depends on your.

961
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: Team where your team is at in its in its, process,

962
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: right you, know for The. Chargers it's a playoff. Team

963
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: you've got a franchise, quarterback you've got two great offensive.

964
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: TACKLES i think you can take some of those day

965
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: three swings on. Athleticism if you were The Cleveland, BROWNS

966
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: i would, say, no you need. Starters you need you,

967
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: know you need twenty two guys who can get on

968
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: the football. Field let's, go you, know high production from

969
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 3: college guys who are multi year. Starters maybe in THE

970
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: sec or The Big, ten they can get out there.

971
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: Faster BUT i think with where The chargers are, AT

972
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: i would take some flyers on athletes wide, receiver running, back,

973
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: corner safety on day three and hope that you hit

974
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: on one of. Those and then you, have you, know

975
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: a four year starter who's very inexpensive because you got

976
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: them on day.

977
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: Three all, right let's finish with, This, matt just because

978
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: you know they're going to ask you to grade the.

979
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: Drafts we want you to give The chargers AN a

980
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: for their. Draft AND i don't mean to put you

981
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: on the. Spot i'm sure you have a database that

982
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: you'd be able to cross reference to kind of know

983
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: sort of needs and players and. Stuff but just off

984
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: the top of your, head kind of what do you

985
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: what do you think it looks? Like what do you

986
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: think they need and what players can you imagine dropping

987
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: in what that would give them that a?

988
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: Grade, YEAH i think before free agency and we'll see

989
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: what happens with the pass. Rushers right if you can

990
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: Get Colston lovelin at twenty, two that's AN a for.

991
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: Me that's a stamp it. You i'll write it right.

992
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: Now if they draft, him that's AN a for me

993
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: because it is what they. NEED i, Mean ladd had

994
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: such a great year and, he's you, know a number

995
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 3: one receiver for you. Guys finding more weapons For Justin,

996
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: HERBERT i think is something that would be a priority for,

997
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: me especially as you now have you, know the play

998
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: calling and the development on that side of the. Ball so,

999
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: again we'll see what happens with with you, know the pass.

1000
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: Rushers hopefully Clil mack is, Back hopefully Punt A ford is.

1001
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: Back.

1002
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah if they're, not THEN i would like to be

1003
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: able to change my answer and say we got to

1004
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: go d. Line BUT i think right, now if you

1005
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: could Get loveland in the first, round that'd be a slam.

1006
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: Dunk but the receiver group is good.

1007
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: Too you, know if you could Get Matthew golden From

1008
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: Texas Mecha abuca From Ohio state would be a really,

1009
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: good you, know guy doing some of the dirty work,

1010
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 3: underneath so improving that underneath passing game.

1011
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: Would be, big great. Stuff check him. Out he'll be

1012
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: here all week burning the midnight. Oil so we appreciate. It,

1013
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: matt thanks so. Much, yeah you. Bet, thanks all, right

1014
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna do it For Chargers. Weekly As matt makes

1015
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: his way to another, table we will wrap it up

1016
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: here From. Indianapolis big thank you to our team, Page, Amen, Will,

1017
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: brian everybody doing heavy lifting and going out late and

1018
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 1: making sure we have a good time while also getting

1019
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: great content for all of. You so hopefully you all enjoyed.

1020
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: It we'll be back again next week following the. Combine

1021
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: as Free agent is the Free agency is upon us

1022
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: to deliver another episode Of Chargers. Weekly