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Speaker 1: Welcome in Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night in July twenty fourth year of

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Speaker 2: our Lord, twenty twenty two. You want the most humiliating story.

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Speaker 1: Of my professional career?

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Speaker 2: Tonight on this show you will get the most humiliating

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Speaker 2: story of my professional career.

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Speaker 1: Because it's less than a week in our rear view mirror.

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Speaker 2: We are jam packed high at top steamy downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: The NCAA toast while they're still here, say you're goodbyes.

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Speaker 2: College football kind of being reshaped as we know it,

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Speaker 2: and I know that makes a lot of you quiver,

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Speaker 2: But it could be that all of us are going

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Speaker 2: to get a version of what we want. We're going

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Speaker 2: to discuss that to start the show tonight. Bold Predictions

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Speaker 2: enters Chapter twenty six this evening, The Rama Noodle Express

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Speaker 2: is back tonight. I'm gonna keep myself calm on the

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Speaker 2: front end, because who knows what kind of emotions that

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Speaker 2: could elicit. On the back end. We're gonna talk some

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Speaker 2: sec scheduling accusations. I'll call them myths. Some of you

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Speaker 2: would call them accusations. I'm going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: most unpredictable conferences in America. They're watching us in Herman,

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Speaker 2: Missouri tonight, Yes they are. They're watching us in Pioneer, Ohio, Portland, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: Corpus Christi, Texas. Hey, what a week we had down

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Five SEC head coaches interviewed. I put it

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Speaker 2: out on Twitter for those of you who don't follow

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Speaker 2: on social at late kick Josh if you want to,

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Speaker 2: but if you don't, Man, you made that possible. And

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Speaker 2: we had so many compliments from so many people in

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Speaker 2: our industry. And I don't want to sit here and

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Speaker 2: do it our own horn, except that we don't pay

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Speaker 2: for marketing, so we kind of have to do it ourselves.

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Speaker 1: But that's a joke.

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Speaker 2: The serious part of it is you are the marketing department.

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Speaker 2: You made all that possible. Thank you for that. In return,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to answer a question a lot of you

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Speaker 2: have had for a long time tonight. You know when

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Speaker 2: I credit director Colin and producer Jesse, and you guys

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Speaker 2: say they're not real, they're just you. They're probably some nameless,

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Speaker 2: faceless CBS corporate drones behind the behind the old wall.

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Speaker 1: Here, or maybe you just direct the show yourself.

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Speaker 2: Anybody who knows anything about me No, that's that's a great,

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Speaker 2: big false. But you know what I'm gonna do tonight

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever. Yeah, we're gonna break down

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Speaker 2: the wall. As Chris Jericho would say, I will show

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Speaker 2: you Producer Jesse live standing next to me on this

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Speaker 2: show by the end of this broadcast. For those of

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Speaker 2: you listening on podcasts, I will admit you just need

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Speaker 2: the visual element. But don't worry, a photo of set

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Speaker 2: occurrence will be posted shortly after this show on the socials.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen all tonight. Ro Ma Noodle expresses back.

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Speaker 2: Producer Jesse unveiled. We should put this one on pay

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Speaker 2: per view, but it's free for the world to see

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Speaker 2: thanks to Academy. Let's dive into the show tonight. The NCAA,

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Speaker 2: as you and I know, it is going bye bye.

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Speaker 2: You can wave right now. It's kind of already vanishing

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Speaker 2: before your eyes. But there were two headlines that I'm

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Speaker 2: that really show that process is being expedited.

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Speaker 1: What if I told you.

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Speaker 2: Something could be happening here where we all kind of

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Speaker 2: win Now, as you've noticed over the last several weeks

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Speaker 2: to months, even the last couple of years. The current

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Speaker 2: state of football, the current state of college football at least,

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Speaker 2: is such that there are two camps forming on things

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Speaker 2: like the transfer portal and nil and even conference realignment,

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Speaker 2: but more so the former two there and those camps

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Speaker 2: to that effect, or you're saying players rights, players rights,

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Speaker 2: players rights now, players rights forever.

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Speaker 1: And here's where I've been.

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Speaker 2: I guess kind of more leaning towards the first camp

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Speaker 2: at the table for both. Anyway. What does that have

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Speaker 2: to do with the last couple of weeks. Well, here

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Speaker 2: But in college football, if we accept that there's a

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Speaker 2: kind of what I've done with the playoff for example.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't care less about college football playoff expansion. But

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Speaker 2: to the future of college football. You know as well

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Speaker 2: In our opinion, those being TV executives, high level mustaches,

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Speaker 1: And that's happening. But I want to direct.

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Speaker 2: Your attention a couple of directions tonight. Redundant. I know,

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Speaker 2: me to believe we're a lot closer to finding a

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Speaker 2: because I think right now it feels like we're just

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying there aren't some dangers and pitfalls

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Speaker 2: I can't sell you that the future is going to

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Speaker 1: I can't sell you on that. I wish I could.

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Speaker 2: You're either for maintaining tradition or your four players' rights,

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Speaker 2: and there's not a whole lot of in between that's presented. Well,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound like an abject disastrous mess on the surface.

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Speaker 1: I know what you thought.

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Speaker 2: Just bookmark that for a second, because I can tell

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Speaker 2: It would not surprise you a great deal to find

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Speaker 2: if we allow unlimited transfers, aren't kids just moving every year? Well,

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Speaker 2: the short answer maybe yes, if if everything is as is,

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Speaker 2: if status quo is maintained right now. But I am

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Speaker 1: How crazy did this sound?

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Speaker 2: Unlimited transfers being supper awarded by the nc DOUBLEA could

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Speaker 1: That makes no sense on the surface. I know it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: That's why you're gonna have to follow me here.

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Speaker 2: Headline number two a little bit later in the week,

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Speaker 2: a little something like this Big ten players Group meets

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Speaker 2: with Kevin Warren, Big ten Commissioner. They demand a share

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Speaker 1: But then you got this player's group.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a union to me, even though they were

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Speaker 2: careful to say no, we're not a union, we haven't unionized.

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Speaker 2: But they're looking to collectively bargain, aren't they. And they're

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Speaker 2: looking for a share of a soon to be massive

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Speaker 2: A lot of people freaked out about that. You know

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Speaker 2: We can give each one of them forty grand a year.

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Speaker 2: I have said for a year the big player in

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Speaker 2: Bold Predictions Chapter twenty six. Basically, we have aggregated everything

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Speaker 2: a year this year to be a Heisman finalist. Also,

437
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Speaker 2: you got to respect the quarterback landscape out there, even

438
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Speaker 2: in the SEC. There are a lot of good quarterbacks

439
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Speaker 2: down here this year. But then you've got guys nationally,

440
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Speaker 2: you know, like CJ. Stroud, what kind of year is

441
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Speaker 2: he going to have? What kind of year is Bryce

442
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Speaker 2: Young going to have? In the SEC?

443
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Speaker 1: Is there room? How much room do we have?

444
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Speaker 2: And sometimes that's a zero sum game, especially when it

445
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Speaker 2: comes to Heisman tabulation. So I went with an eight,

446
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Speaker 2: and I don't think that's really lofty because I think

447
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Speaker 2: it was a six or seven even for Bryce Young

448
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Speaker 2: and the guy won.

449
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Speaker 1: The award last year. It's just hard to do it.

450
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Speaker 1: It's hard to be Heisman finalist.

451
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Speaker 2: Next up, we're going to the Pac twelve, Mike said

452
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Speaker 2: Utah will beat USC by double digits this year. Now,

453
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Speaker 2: both of these teams, Utah and USC, they have over

454
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Speaker 2: under preseason win totals of nine. They are both plus

455
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Speaker 2: two hundred to win the Pac twelve. So Vegas looks

456
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Speaker 2: at these teams and they pretty much see identical preseason profiles.

457
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Speaker 2: The game is at Utah this year, so Utah has

458
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Speaker 2: that going for him. There was really interesting preseason action

459
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Speaker 2: when this line came out. I think USC opened as

460
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Speaker 2: a favorite and it kind of fluctuated. So I think

461
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Speaker 2: what Mike has in his mind that a lot of

462
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Speaker 2: us still do is last year because there were really

463
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Speaker 2: three types of games that fit this profile.

464
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Speaker 1: They obviously they being Utah.

465
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Speaker 2: They played USC last year they beat them forty two

466
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Speaker 2: to twenty six, check one for the double digit win.

467
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Speaker 2: They played Oregon twice last year did Utah and they

468
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Speaker 2: beat him thirty eight to seven, double digit win, and

469
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Speaker 2: thirty eight to ten in the Pac twelve title game

470
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Speaker 2: double digit win. So basically every game that kind of

471
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Speaker 2: was similar to this when they won by double digits

472
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Speaker 2: last year. The I guess the world and me included

473
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Speaker 2: in the world, wants to know how different USC is

474
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Speaker 2: this year because there are two different two different paths

475
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Speaker 2: you could easily see this game take. And the first

476
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Speaker 2: one would be a world where Utah just so thoroughly

477
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Speaker 2: owns the line of scrimmage. It looks like the Oregon

478
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Speaker 2: games last year, and even though they're not bombing away

479
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Speaker 2: and they're not throwing for five hundred and fifty on you,

480
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Speaker 2: over the course of four quarters, they lean on you

481
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Speaker 2: and lean on you and you break listen. That wouldn't

482
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Speaker 2: be out of the realm of possibility. A whole lot

483
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Speaker 2: of flash, but maybe not as much meat and potatoes

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Speaker 2: on that USC team year one. I don't even think

485
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Speaker 2: that'd be stunning to Lincoln Riley. I mean, he's been

486
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Speaker 2: pretty outspoken about how there's still a work in progress,

487
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Speaker 2: especially along the lines of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: But there is another world.

489
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Speaker 2: And the other world is they've done an adequate enough

490
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Speaker 2: j tooling via the transfer portal, and the offensive firepower

491
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Speaker 2: they have makes it impossible for Utah to get any

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Speaker 2: margin on them.

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Speaker 1: Even if Utah were to win, probably be a closer game.

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Speaker 2: Or there's the alternate universe within scenario B where you

495
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Speaker 2: sc just wins the game. So because of that I

496
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Speaker 2: made this a seven. It's not hard for me to

497
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Speaker 2: see Utah winning the game, but the double digit, that's.

498
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Speaker 1: Where it's stretched a little bit. But it's only a seven.

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Speaker 2: I respect that Utah team and I saw what they

500
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Speaker 2: did last year. Love to see them play Florida week one.

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Speaker 1: Love that.

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Speaker 2: Next up, this's pretty bold too, Chris said, Oklahoma, they're

503
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Speaker 2: gonna go eleven and one. They'll make the playoff and

504
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Speaker 2: ooh important follow up here, they will win a semi

505
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Speaker 2: final game. Now, so farther zero to four in that spot,

506
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Speaker 2: so this would be the first playoff game that Oklahoma

507
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Speaker 2: has won. One thing you gotta love here for this

508
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma team, period is you gotta love the combination of

509
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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel and Jeff Levy that is quarterback via the

510
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Speaker 2: transfer portal, and of course, the new offensive coordinator came

511
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Speaker 2: in by way of old Miss. Another thing, if you

512
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: look at their schedule that you have to like is

513
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Speaker 2: their three toughest games in conference are Baylor, they get

514
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Speaker 2: them at home. Texas is a neutral site game obviously

515
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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, State's at home, so they don't face any

516
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Speaker 2: of their three toughest opponents in a true road setting. Now,

517
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Speaker 2: having said that, they do go to Nebraska, they go

518
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Speaker 2: to Iowa State, they go to West Virginia, Texas Tech,

519
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Speaker 2: they head out to Cactus Country. If you know, you know,

520
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: and most of you don't, but Texas Tech has been

521
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Speaker 2: on fire as of late. Eleven and one's tough here,

522
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Speaker 2: but eleven in one is doable. It's just that you

523
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Speaker 2: add it in the caveat they're going to go eleven

524
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Speaker 2: and one and they're gonna win a playoff game. And

525
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Speaker 2: so when you marry those two things, I have no

526
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Speaker 2: choice but to go with an eight here because I

527
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Speaker 2: think about eleven and one and the over would hit.

528
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Speaker 2: I think they're over unders nine or nine and a half.

529
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Speaker 2: So you know that that's doable. I mean, Oklahoma's a

530
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Speaker 2: very good program. But when you talk about getting to

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Speaker 2: a playoff type setting, and you may face Bryce Young

532
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Speaker 2: in Alabama, you may face a Georgia or maybe a CJ.

533
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Speaker 2: Stroud in Ohio state, Do I trust that they have

534
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Speaker 2: the offense to respond?

535
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Speaker 1: Do I trust that?

536
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Speaker 2: And it's hard for me to say it right now,

537
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Speaker 2: especially when we're looking this far down the road. So

538
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Speaker 2: the eleven and one not the craziest thing in the world,

539
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Speaker 2: but when you marry it with a playoff win. I

540
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Speaker 2: got to put at least an eight on the Boldness

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Speaker 2: scale there. Next up, we were running numbers on this

542
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Speaker 2: next one cause I don't I don't know how this

543
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Speaker 2: was possible mathematically, but you know what, let's give it

544
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Speaker 2: a go. Connor said, Alabama will not have a single

545
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Speaker 2: thousand yard receiver this year, but Bryce Young will nearly

546
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Speaker 2: match his production from a year ago. Bryce Young won

547
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Speaker 2: the Heisman last year he threw for nearly forty nine

548
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Speaker 2: hundred yards. So we were busy. I mean, we had

549
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Speaker 2: to break out the calculator, like, literally, how do you

550
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Speaker 2: do this? How do you throw for that many yards

551
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Speaker 2: and not have a single thousand yard receiver. Best we

552
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Speaker 2: can tell you would need about seven guys to receive

553
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Speaker 2: about seven or so hundred yards, but none of them

554
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Speaker 2: really break through. Bryce Young last year he threw for

555
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Speaker 2: three hundred and three touchdowns in ten games. At least

556
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Speaker 2: three touchdowns and three hundred yards in ten games. I

557
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: ate forty seven to seven touchdown interception. So you remember

558
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Speaker 2: all the numbers he won the Heisman, they had two

559
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Speaker 2: of them last year, go over a thousand.

560
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Speaker 1: That was Jamison Williams. And John Mitchi.

561
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Speaker 2: Big prayers out to John Mitchi today a form of

562
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Speaker 2: leukemia for those of you who missed that release from

563
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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans today. I mean, John mitch is one

564
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Speaker 2: of our guys, so we're pulling for John Mitchi. He'll

565
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Speaker 2: pull through that, but that was tough news to see today.

566
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Speaker 2: He was one thousand yard receiver last year. Jamison Williams

567
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Speaker 2: was a fifteen hundred yard receiver last year. They're gonna

568
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Speaker 2: have at least one or either Alabama's offense falls off

569
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Speaker 2: a cliff. But there is no world I see where

570
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Speaker 2: Bryce is matching that production from last year and they

571
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Speaker 2: don't have at least one. Whether it's Jermaine Burton. I'm

572
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Speaker 2: a big Jacory Brooks guy, but I mean they've Tyler

573
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: herrel is, the Louisville transfer, They they've got options down.

574
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Speaker 2: There is breaking through or either Bryce is not matching

575
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Speaker 2: that production. So I went with a nine point five

576
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Speaker 2: on this one. That's way too bold for me to see.

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Speaker 1: Last one.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a little I'm gonna have a little

579
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Speaker 2: helpful reference over here to the side for this last one.

580
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Speaker 2: Maul cop seven, big friend of the program, said Kannada

581
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Speaker 2: Mumpfield puts up better numbers than Jordan Addison.

582
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Speaker 1: Let me remind you who we're talking about here.

583
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Speaker 2: Mumfield is a transfer from Akron and he transferred to pitt.

584
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Speaker 2: Jordan Addison won the bolittantk Coff Award last year. He

585
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Speaker 2: transferred to USC And what we're saying here is we're

586
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Speaker 2: just gonna plug and play and we're gonna have better

587
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Speaker 2: production from the Akron transfer than the Bolittank Coff Award

588
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Speaker 2: winner last year. I made this one a nine point five,

589
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Speaker 2: But don't take my word for it. Let me read

590
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Speaker 2: you Producer Jesse's review in his show notes that he

591
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Speaker 2: sent to me. He sent to the person who sent

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Speaker 2: this one, cyt. I know a lot of you listened

593
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Speaker 2: to the show with your children, so I'm not gonna

594
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Speaker 2: let you know what that acronym means.

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Speaker 1: Figure it out for yourself.

596
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Speaker 2: Jesse continues, we're predicting that Kanada Mumpfield, the number one

597
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one ranked player in the portal, will

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Speaker 2: top the stats of the Bolitnikov winner, who caught balls

599
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Speaker 2: from the only quarterback taken in the first round of

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Speaker 2: the NFL draft in Kenny Pickett, producer Jesse is not sold.

601
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Speaker 2: In fact, Producer Jesse's boldeness scales.

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Speaker 1: A ten out of ten. I just went nine and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 2: So I've got Kannada Mumfield's back relative to the producer

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Speaker 2: Jesse's of the world.

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Speaker 1: This is not happening. You want me to tell.

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Speaker 2: You another reason why this is not happening. It's not

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Speaker 2: anything personal against Kannada Mumfield Jared Wayne, who for all

609
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Speaker 2: I know, may end up being their number one receiver

610
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Speaker 2: this year. He caught forty seven balls for six hundred

611
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Speaker 2: and fifty eight yards last year. So that's the first

612
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Speaker 2: thing standing in someone's way of just hoovering up all

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Speaker 2: that offensive production. But the other thing, if you haven't

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Speaker 2: been paying attention, pitt head coach pat Nardoozi has been

615
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Speaker 2: very loose.

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Speaker 1: At the mouth over the past week.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what in the world was happening with

618
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Speaker 2: him up there. I mean, he's on every podcast with

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Speaker 2: over fifteen listeners talking about how they they threw the

620
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Speaker 2: ball too much. Last year. He took his offensive coordinator

621
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Speaker 2: Mark Whipple double crow hopped and just chucked that body

622
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Speaker 2: all the way under the nearest bus again.

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Speaker 1: Go look it up.

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Speaker 2: It's not hidden as it's out there for the world

625
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Speaker 2: to listen to. And he was talking in the last

626
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Speaker 2: week about how they mean they're averaging ten yards per

627
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Speaker 2: Caurrey against teams like wake Forest and they're still throwing

628
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Speaker 2: the ball. Well, I took from that they are not

629
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Speaker 2: throwing the ball nearly as much this year. I think

630
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Speaker 2: they're going to run it a lot more and so

631
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Speaker 2: I don't think the production will be there to be

632
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Speaker 2: had either way. But when you combine both those things, no,

633
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Speaker 2: this is a nine point five. And if Kannada Mumpfield

634
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Speaker 2: proves us wrong, he just proves us wrong. Let me

635
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Speaker 2: take a little sip of coffee here, because a big

636
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Speaker 2: moment is coming up here on the show. The ram

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Speaker 2: Noodle Express is back. We have got so many tens

638
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Speaker 2: of thousands of new followers and viewers to the show

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Speaker 2: that I need to remind you what the ram Noodle

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Speaker 2: Express this was. Back in my days of local talk

641
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Speaker 2: radio in Columbus, Georgia, there was a guy that used

642
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Speaker 2: to call in ask us for gambling picks, and then

643
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Speaker 2: he would put the weight on our shoulders that if

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Speaker 2: our picks didn't hit for him, his children would suffer

645
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Speaker 2: and they'd have to eat Rama Noodles for lunch and

646
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Speaker 2: dinner for the rest of the.

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Speaker 1: Week, not him, you know.

648
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Speaker 2: So we were fighting for his kids on air, really

649
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Speaker 2: more so than we were for him. I never forgot that,

650
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Speaker 2: and I know there are some of you out there

651
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Speaker 2: that still ride this thing pretty hard core. So our

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Speaker 2: picks on this show, we have our own model. We

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Speaker 2: have our proprietary information. We don't sell it to anyone.

654
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Speaker 2: We don't give it to anyone.

655
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: It's ours.

656
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: It's on this computer right now. We give out about

657
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: five to seven picks per week. We title it the

658
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Rama Noodle Express, and it may be the greatest thing

659
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: we do on this show. But for the first time

660
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: ever this year, I am debuting the model just a

661
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: little bit early because I'm giving out four count them, one, two, three,

662
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: four pre season over under win total plays tonight. I

663
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: have moved money on all of these in the past

664
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Speaker 2: forty eight hours. Let's start in Morgan, West Virginia. Our

665
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: model has West Virginia about twenty spots higher than an

666
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: aggregation of a lot of the preview magazines do. Now,

667
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: the preview magazines are good for whatever they're good for.

668
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: I just used that as a reference cause the AP

669
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 2: polls not out yet. FPI is, but it doesn't even

670
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: get a mention on the show. So we are higher

671
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: on West Virginia.

672
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: They're over under.

673
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: Preseason win total is five and a half, so we

674
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: really like the over five and a half with West Virginia.

675
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: This is evenly juiced at Caesars's minus fifteen either way.

676
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: So here's the short and long of it. If they

677
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: make a bowl, we win. That's really pretty cut and dry.

678
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: I've got a better feel about them in twenty twenty

679
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: two than I did in twenty twenty one.

680
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: They won six games last year.

681
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: They're at pitt to start the season, and then they

682
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: go off the radar.

683
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: I think they play Kansas.

684
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they play Kansas and thousand and then they're back

685
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: on the radar at Virginia Tech.

686
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: But they made a lot of moves in the.

687
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: Transfer portal, and it's really important to note what's around

688
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 2: the movers.

689
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: AJT.

690
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Daniels, for instance, is the new quarterback there who started

691
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: at Georgia last year.

692
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: You know the story with J. T. Daniels.

693
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: Well, what you need to know is he's not coming

694
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: in and playing behind a patchwork offensive line. They've got

695
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: an offensive line virtually intact. They've got really good weapons

696
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: for him to throw the ball to.

697
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: So JT.

698
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 2: Daniels is not coming in and being looked at by

699
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: the locals up there saying, all right, JT. Carrius, he's

700
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: just got to play good football. Now, that's a tall ask.

701
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: But again, the numbers not eight and a half. It's

702
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: five and a half.

703
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing.

704
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: The second thing, and the reason most people are doubting

705
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: West Virginia is because they got to replace their entire

706
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: defensive backfield. And this is just a vibe that I've

707
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: gotten from there. I do think it's valid to be

708
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: concerned about that, but I don't think that it is

709
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: necessarily a weakness for them as much as it is

710
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: a question. So I am betting on this, and I

711
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: think our model's picking up on this. I don't expect

712
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: to turn on West Virginia games and look at them

713
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: just being.

714
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: Torched Saturday after Saturday after Saturday.

715
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: They'll take their lumps, but I think they'll have enough

716
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: explicivity in their passing game that they'll be able to

717
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: win some higher scoring games, which hasn't necessarily been the

718
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: mo of Neil Brown in his first couple of years

719
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: up there. I think this is the year they make

720
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of a jump. So I love over

721
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: five and a half for West Virginia. Next up, we

722
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: got to take an under. Hate to do it makes

723
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: people mad, but we were not in the business of

724
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: losing money on the Ramain Middle Express Ole miss the

725
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: model is looking hard at the under at seven and

726
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: a half and it's a plus juice for us plus

727
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: one ten. So if we want to go with the

728
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: under there there's a very specific danger in the SEC West,

729
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 2: and that is a good team is going to end

730
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: up winning six or seven games because someone's going to

731
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: have a wabbly tire. And I mean it's kind of

732
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: like watching Formula one. It's like watching NASCAR. You've got

733
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: cars out there going really fast, and so anyone who

734
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: even gets loose or has a little bit of a wobble,

735
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of a shake. When you see a

736
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: car fall off pace with the rest of the pack,

737
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: they don't have to be going slow. You know the

738
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: difference between watching a cargo one sixty five and one nine,

739
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: especially when fifty other cars are going one ninety five,

740
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: it's glaring and if anyone has a bumpy tire.

741
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: Got a little wobbly tire here.

742
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: If anyone starts dropping close games, if anyone's transfer portal

743
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: additions don't gel and coalesce into a functioning unit, if

744
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: someone doesn't have quarterback figured out to the degree they

745
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: thought they were going to have it figured out, someone's

746
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: gonna end up winning six or seven games, and the

747
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: under is going to really disappoint somebody because it's going

748
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: to hit. I just think, and the model thinks it's

749
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: most likely to be Old Miss in the SEC West.

750
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the quarterback position right now, and

751
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: I know that the day they got Jackson Dark, just

752
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: like on this show, the entire country said good for

753
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. I still say good for Lane Kiffin.

754
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they got.

755
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: Anything remotely close to what they thought they were going

756
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: to get from him out of spring. That's backed up

757
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: by the team insiders around Old Miss. So Luke Altmeyer,

758
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: if I had to bet my money today is going

759
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: to be the starting quarterback for them. That we don't

760
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: have fall camp yet, so we all we have to

761
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: go on a spring and so far summer conditioning.

762
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that to say neither of them.

763
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: I do feel comfortable saying this. Neither of them is

764
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: Matt Corral and because of that, I think they're gonna

765
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: have to play a little more complimentary style of football.

766
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: What I don't think is Lane Kiffin's gonna reinvent his

767
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: offense to be tailored to a lesser entity at quarterback.

768
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: So they're gonna, I mean, they're gonna live or die

769
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: with whether they can get adequate quarterback play. And if

770
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: they don't, you know, and if if we are looking

771
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: at a defense that you know, doesn't magically take a

772
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: bunch of transfer portal pieces and really an entire team

773
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: that doesn't take a bunch of transfer portal pieces and

774
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: just coalesce into a team that is the wabbly tire

775
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: potentially in the SEC West. So because of that, percentage wise,

776
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: the model does lean to the under.

777
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: At seven and a half of Old Miss.

778
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. We still got him as a top

779
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: twenty team. That's just the nature of their scheduling. So

780
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: they could end up being a seven and five team

781
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: and end up being a quality program this year, being

782
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: a quality team this year, especially if those losses aren't blowouts.

783
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: You know, if it's thirty one twenty six. That kind

784
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: of score. Ironically, the score I think they beat Tennessee

785
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: by last year, that's possible. Next up, do you want

786
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: to call me a homer on this? That's fine, I

787
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: absolutely am Iowa State. Model likes over six and a.

788
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: Half for them.

789
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Good for Iowa State and good for me because I

790
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: was going to bet it either way blind and this

791
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: is you're looking at a guy who predicted him to

792
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: go to the playoff last year. So of course if

793
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: you give me six and a half, I'm taking the over. Fortunately,

794
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: the model agrees, and I'm not the one who builds

795
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: the model, so my own biases are not baked into

796
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: it necessarily, not totally. Fourteen spots higher. Our model has

797
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: Iowa State fourteen spots higher than an aggregate of the

798
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: preview magazines does. Hunter Deckers is the new quarterback there,

799
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: because you know they lost a quarterback in Brock Purdy.

800
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people know who they're

801
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: replacing him with. Brock, who's got an interesting first name.

802
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: I just call him Jay Brock. He is replacing Breeze Hall.

803
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: A lot of people know Reese Hall's gone, don't necessarily

804
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: know who is replacing him.

805
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: Well, that's who's replacing him.

806
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: They I think in the model things will be top

807
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: three again in total Big Twelve defense this year, So

808
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: that profile of or that portion of the profile of

809
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: the team will not be much different.

810
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: Here's the difference. The difference is straight up.

811
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: The model does not think they're going to have a

812
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: massive offensive drop off. So they played a lot of

813
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: games last year that were close, that were decided because

814
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: of turnovers and being on the wrong side of it.

815
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: And anytime that's the case, when that's baked in, whether

816
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: you're having to replace a quarterback and replace star players

817
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: or not, we expect a regression or in this case

818
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: of progression back to whatever the natural mean would be.

819
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: We don't think there's going to be a big drop

820
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: off for them, and as a result, because Vegas is

821
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: giving us a number of six and a half instead

822
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: of seven and a half or eight and a half,

823
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: we're happy to take the over. Also, keep in mind

824
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about this a little bit later

825
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: in the show. This is the Big Twelve, as Dan

826
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: Hawkins once said, so in the Big Twelve, it's a

827
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: NiFe fight every week this year. Everybody can beat everybody,

828
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: And so the team that's well coached and the team

829
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: that is plus in the turnover margin, which I have

830
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 2: a sneaking suspicion they're much.

831
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: More likely to be.

832
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: This year gonna be a bunch of close games. I

833
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: gotta win seven of them. I don't have to win

834
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: nine or ten. I really like their odds to do that.

835
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: So Iowa State over six and a half. And the

836
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: last one just made part of the production staff recoil

837
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: at the very notion you know what I'm gonna do.

838
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: Let me take another swig of coffee. Yeah, I'm gonna

839
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 2: take Auburn over six wins and actually bet money on it. Yeah,

840
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. So Auburn over six wins. It's

841
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: slightly juiced here minus one thirty. This was six and

842
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: a half earlier in the summer. I think Bud grabbed

843
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: the under at six and a half. Well, we waited

844
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: to get it to six, and we're gonna take the

845
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: over at six. Follow me here, and I mean follow close,

846
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: because you're gonna.

847
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: Have to really believe in this.

848
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: But the rule with the Ramannutle Express is bet them

849
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: all or don't bet any of them at all. We

850
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: were actually I just mentioned Bud me Bud and Kole

851
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: Kuberlick were standing around a staircase in Atlanta and Cole

852
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Kublick said something, and I begrudgingly admit this, but he

853
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: said something that really inspired my confidence in this bet.

854
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: He said, what if they start hot?

855
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: Now, that sounds pretty innocent, right, But if you know

856
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: Auburn football, you know how important home field around there is.

857
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: And if you've never experienced the home field advantage there

858
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: when they've got a lot to play for, I don't

859
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: know what to tell you. It's to me, the most

860
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: valuable home field in the country. I've been to all

861
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: the big stadiums, I've been in the biggest environments. That

862
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: place right there, Jordenhare Stadium, when there is a lot

863
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: on the line, is unmatched.

864
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: In college football. It's just insane.

865
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: I think it's worth the most points in a point

866
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: spread in true home field advantage of any major college

867
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: football venue in the country. So the reason I'm mentioning

868
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: that is because of the way their schedule starts. They

869
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: don't leave home for like four or five weeks, So

870
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: they play Mercer this year, San Jose State this year,

871
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: in Western Kentucky this year, counting those as three wins,

872
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: because if they're not, then this is irrelevant anyway. So

873
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: let's count that as three and oh, and then let's

874
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: try and find our other four wins three minimum to

875
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: get the push. They play Penn State at home in

876
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: week three, they will be undefeated when Penn State comes

877
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: to town. Cannot adequately prepare Penn State for what they're

878
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: going to experience. Now, those guys have been in big

879
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: stadiums before, so it's not going to catch them off guard.

880
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: It's just that it's also going to be about ninety

881
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: four degrees with with maximum humidity down there, and you're

882
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: going to have about ninety thousand folks screaming their head off.

883
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: It will be a very, very tough out. That's going

884
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: to be a pick them or a plus two either

885
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: way point spread. So to back up Cole's point, look

886
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: at this. If all of a sudden they start three

887
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: and oh, you know who comes in there the next week.

888
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: Missouri Auburn's a better football team than Missouri. Auburn should

889
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: beat Missouri at home. You have possibly started four and

890
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 2: oh there, and then you got LSU coming into week five.

891
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: To me, for both of those teams that's kind of

892
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: a turning point in the season because LSU, for all the.

893
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: Talent they have, there are a ton of question.

894
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Marks on that LSU team too, And that'll be the

895
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: first time they're really venturing out on the road into

896
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: this kind of environment.

897
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: And that's Brian Kelly.

898
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: It's really his first time on the road in that

899
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: kind of environment in the SEC. So the point is,

900
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: if you're gonna take a flyer here, if you're gonna

901
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: if you're gonna lean more towards the positive, there's a

902
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: world where Auburn just just fights and scrapes their way

903
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: to a one, two, three, four, five and oh. Start Now.

904
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: I'm not looking for them to go to Georgia and win.

905
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm not looking for them to go to Bama at

906
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: the end of the year and win. But if they're

907
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: sitting there five and oh already, and I only need

908
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: well count in the Western Kentucky game later in the year,

909
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: and I'm only looking for one more win to lock

910
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: down the push, at which point we're just playing with

911
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: house money. I mean, they got a game at ole

912
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: Miss October fifteenth. They beat ole Miss last year. I

913
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: think a lot of people forget that they got Arkansas

914
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: at home two weeks later, coming off of buye.

915
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: They beat Arkansas last year. People forget that.

916
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean people really forget that Auburn had a down

917
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: year last year. Ole Miss and Arkansas both had good years.

918
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: They beat them both. So this is not out of

919
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: the realm of possibility. Okay, it's not out of the

920
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: realm possibility at all. I and the Model more importantly,

921
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: actually like Auburn over six and this shouldn't be discounted.

922
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: The vibe I've gotten from Auburn is something that I'm

923
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: not gonna quantify. I'm just gonna say it backs up

924
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: what the model thinks. I would not bet based on

925
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: vibe or gut. You know, we don't do that, but

926
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: I do. I like where the headspace is down there

927
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: right now. Of course that can all change with a

928
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: disastrous half on a Saturday, but yeah, that's where we

929
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: are right now. Remember I appreciate so much all you

930
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: guys being tuned in live. I mean, this is when

931
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: most people are taking vacation. We got over two thousand

932
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: folks watching live. Reminder, please like the video, and sixty

933
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: percent of our traffic is still unsubscribed. So the way

934
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: to change that just click subscribe, it's free, and then

935
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: just go on about your life. Let's I don't know

936
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: how to tackle this, so I'm just going to do it.

937
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: Let's let's pull up the question about SEC scheduling and

938
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read it. Okay, here we go, Antonio said,

939
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: Hopefully Nick Saban gets his wish of ten SEC games

940
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: per season so his overrated conference can stop feasting on

941
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: FCS teams to inflate their records.

942
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: Now, Antonio, on the very very tippy top surface, you

943
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: and I do agree.

944
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: I'd love to see the SEC go that route too,

945
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: And you and I agree, I'd love to see FCS

946
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: scheduling done away with. However, where you and I are

947
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: diametrically opposed is claiming that the SEC's overrated and their

948
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: scheduling is inflated, and their strength of schedules not really

949
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: all it's made out to be. These statements just you

950
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: know how rarely I use this word. They befuddle me.

951
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: I get them all the time. It is the weirdest

952
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: argument that I most frequently find myself in, and that

953
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: is the SEC strength of schedule argument. And you got

954
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: to be careful with this thing, cause see here's the trap.

955
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: When someone argues against SEC strength to schedule, you take

956
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: it flat footed because you think they're joking, and the

957
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: next thing you know, they've They've gotten you across the

958
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: jaw four different times with well. Recruiting rankings are overly

959
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: inflated for SEC teams, which hype them up in the preseason.

960
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: Then they get overrated in the ape pole. Then that means.

961
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: There are more top twenty five teams, which means their

962
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: players get drafted more frequently and they get more preferential

963
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: treatment in Bowl selection.

964
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: And you're like, I thought you were joking. Are you serious?

965
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: Do you really believe that?

966
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: Yes, they really believe that SEC schedule truthers are out there,

967
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of them are in the

968
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: live chat right now. If you're watching live, watch the

969
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: live chat. Don't happily out themselves. They don't walk around

970
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: embarrassed about this. They think they got the truth on

971
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: their side. Here is the best way I can equate this,

972
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: And there's no way I can do this without insulting

973
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: South Dakota. I've never visited South Dakota. I really appreciate

974
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: the interior, I appreciate the heartland. I'm gonna suck up

975
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: to your state and tell you I fully intend on

976
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: visiting there one day only because of what I'm about

977
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: to say. But there's no other way around this. I

978
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: think Florida is a better state than South Dakota. I

979
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: think it's more desirable to live there. That's my personal opinion.

980
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: It is not shared by anyone else in this building necessarily.

981
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: And so here's what I want you to picture, because

982
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: we're big on metaphors around here. I want you to

983
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: picture South Dakota and Florida locked as states in a

984
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: debate about which is more desirable to live in, because

985
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: that's kind of how the strength of schedule argument goes.

986
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: When you're arguing that the SEC really doesn't have as

987
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: strong as schedule as you think they do, and when

988
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: they put those FCS teams on there, it really devalues

989
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: their schedule. It makes it easier for them. I'm sitting

990
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: around like, even with the FCS teams, they're the toughest

991
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 2: schedules in the country.

992
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: Like that's always been my comeback.

993
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: I could if you got the schedule like A and

994
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: M's played the last couple of years. I don't care

995
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: if you're playing Sam Houston, whatever, or whatever that college was.

996
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: Dabo talked about, I don't care that you're playing SCS

997
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: competition because I know what else is on your schedule. Anyway,

998
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: Picture the South Dakota versus Florida debate. There they are,

999
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: the states themselves have marched up onto the debate platform,

1000
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: and South Dakota looks at Florida and says Florida is

1001
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 2: not desirable to live in, and Florida.

1002
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: Goes, yeah, we are.

1003
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: Have you seen the sunshine down here?

1004
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: Have you seen the beaches?

1005
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: And South Dakota says, you've got swamps in your state,

1006
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: and they just dropped the pin. You've got swamps down there,

1007
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: you got FCS teams on your schedule, You've got swamps

1008
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: down there. And Florida looks back, just dumbfounded, and said, well, yeah,

1009
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: we do have swamps, but we also have hundreds of

1010
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: miles of ocean front property. We also have a temperate climate.

1011
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: We can actually go outside here in the wintertime. We

1012
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: have sunshine, we have citrus like, we have a lot

1013
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 2: of things. And then you get interrupted and South Dakota

1014
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: just comes right back at you and says.

1015
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: No, but you have swamps.

1016
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: That's it.

1017
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: That's the end. Of the debate, you have swamps.

1018
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: Well, that's not the end of the debate, nor is

1019
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: Alabama plays an FCS team The end of the debate

1020
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: when you're trying to discount the overall strength of their schedule,

1021
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: because here's what else they have. They have Texas A

1022
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: and M. They have Arkansas, they have Auburn, they have LSU,

1023
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: they probably got an SEC championship date against Georgia. And

1024
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: you know what else they have. Here's where rubber really

1025
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: meets road. To me, it's obvious Georgia is good. It's

1026
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: obvious A and M's loaded.

1027
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: You know who else they have.

1028
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: They have Mississippi State, they got ol miss And those

1029
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: are the kinds of games because those teams on average

1030
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: are finishing with like six or seven wins something like

1031
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: that that get looked at nationally by people who want

1032
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: to make a counter argument and they say, why should

1033
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: they get credit for playing six and six Mississippi State. Well,

1034
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: here's why, because on any given year, per roster, Mississippi

1035
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: State has Sunday players way more frequently than the produce

1036
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: of the world would, or way more frequently than wait

1037
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: forests of the world would. Yet, sometimes those programs that

1038
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: have more wins Thansissippi State. Why Because someone's got to

1039
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: lose on Saturday in the SEC West.

1040
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: That's why. So I didn't used to believe this argument myself.

1041
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: I used to believe that the SEC was a little

1042
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: bit top heavy, and then outside of the big dogs,

1043
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the conference was no different than the

1044
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: rest of the country's middle and bottom tier. I was wrong.

1045
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: That's wrong, And I can tell you confidently when you

1046
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: go and talk to NFL scouts, unless the NFL is

1047
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: in on it as well, the overall talent level that

1048
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: you're facing, therefore, the overall bigger, faster, stronger impact of

1049
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: collisions on Saturday you're facing it stacks up. It's just

1050
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 2: hard to face them. It's not hard when you're playing

1051
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Georgia because you know they're good. But there are some

1052
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: teams on the average SEC schedule that will not be

1053
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: impressive record wise that you go against, and your training

1054
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: tables are no less crowded on Sunday morning, and it's

1055
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: not the case in some other conferences. Now, I'm not

1056
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: arguing against the Big ten here. Some people automatically go

1057
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: SEC versus Big Ten. I think the SE. I think

1058
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: the Big ten schedules plenty tough, but there are some

1059
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: other schedules out there. You know, in this.

1060
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: Whole, a win is a win, a loss is loss.

1061
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: You are what your record says you are.

1062
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 2: Culture we've developed in college football.

1063
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: That are not equal.

1064
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: That's why we've never been believers on this show that

1065
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: you are what your record says you are. So the

1066
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: I guess when I look at it, I don't like

1067
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: FCS teams being on a schedule. But if if Auburn

1068
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: were to play pick a team, Alabama State, if Auburn

1069
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: were to play Alabama State and Ohio State plays Akron,

1070
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: to me, there's no difference. One of them is an

1071
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: FBS team, one of them is an SCS team. You're

1072
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: winning by forty plus, it doesn't matter. But yet one

1073
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: gets credit and one gets criticized. And I've never really

1074
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: cared about that. So no, to answer the question, yeah,

1075
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: I'd love for Nick Saban to get his way. I

1076
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: guess it wasn't a question, but I love for Saban

1077
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: to get his way because I do want more competitive games.

1078
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: I do want a more attractive schedule. But if you

1079
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: think for a second that the overall caliber of SEC

1080
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: schedule deteriorates because you put an FCS team on it.

1081
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: No, you lose me there. That's where you lose me.

1082
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Speaker 2: Another question here, And by the way, they're watching us

1083
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: in Coleman Alabama tonight Defiance Ohio, as made famous in

1084
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: the hit show Scandal and Duval Washington. They're watching us tonight.

1085
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 2: Let's answer this one right quick. So DJ asked about

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00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: the most unpredictable Power five conference this year.

1087
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: I think it's the Big Twelve, but I'll give you

1088
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: a quick reason for three of them.

1089
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: So in the Big Twelve, unlike the unlike the ACC,

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00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve does not have a team where you

1091
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: are looking around at the preseason title odds and you

1092
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: see a top four like Clemson is top four in

1093
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: national championship bods right now. Oklahoma and Texas are not there,

1094
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: and so oh you in Texas at least in terms

1095
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: of preseason odds now are viewed to be the cream

1096
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: of the crop in the Big Twelve, or cream of

1097
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: the top as I had someone tell me this week.

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00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: But neither of them are viewed as top four in

1099
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: the overall playoff structure. And I'm saying that to say

1100
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: it could just be wide open this year, it could

1101
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: be anyone's conference. And even if it's not, I mean

1102
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: there's there is not a runaway favorite here.

1103
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: There is no.

1104
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State in the field kind of feel, or Alabama

1105
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: and the field.

1106
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: That's not the case in the Big Twelve.

1107
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: Baylor famously had the second to worst odds to win

1108
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: this conference last year and won it. They're fourth with

1109
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: a plus six point fifty preseason odds check to win

1110
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. Oklahoma State's up there. Nobody is higher

1111
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: than plus two hundred to win the conference. So you've

1112
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: got one, two, three, four, five sixty seven of the

1113
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: teams in that conference at plus two thousand or closer

1114
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: odds to win the conference, and that's Iowa State at

1115
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: plus two thousand. So I think that absent Dylan Gabriel

1116
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: really taken over at quarterback, or absent Quinn Viewers at

1117
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: Texas really exploding, I think it's a wide open conference

1118
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: and it's very unpredictable. I think the Pac twelve fits

1119
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: this description as well, because Utah is the one sitting

1120
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: out there with the continuity. They've got the staff in place,

1121
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: that Cam Rising's back at quarterback. A lot of those

1122
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: pieces from last year's team are back, and then USC's

1123
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 2: got a bunch of newness, and Oregon's got a bunch

1124
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: of newness, and UCLA sneakily is in this conversation. But

1125
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: they still have to accomplish feats that they have not

1126
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: accomplished yet under Chip Kelly. And so the Pac twelve

1127
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: is anybody's ball game too. It kind of looks on

1128
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: the odds sheet very similar to the Big Twelve in

1129
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: that USC and Utah are the co preseason favorites to

1130
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: win the conference. They're both plus two to ten, so

1131
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 2: there is no minus money.

1132
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: There's no even money even to win the conference.

1133
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: The ACC is kind of like this as well, but

1134
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 2: you would need help, you would need clums and fallen off.

1135
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: And for all the doubt about this team, they still

1136
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: got the best defensive line probably in college football. And

1137
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: they have a quarterback in dj at Llanglala that, even

1138
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: if he does not pan out, has kay Klubnick on

1139
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: the bench behind him. So I know that you are

1140
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: tempted to measure Clemson against the preseason title contenders, and

1141
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: if you don't think they match up, you don't think

1142
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: they match up. But this question is about conference. There's

1143
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: no question. Still, Clemson's got the superior roster in that conference. Now,

1144
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: they had it last year and it didn't matter, So

1145
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: that's not the end all be all, But I think

1146
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: the ACC if Clemson were to still be a little

1147
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: wobbly themselves, Yeah, then you can sell me on the

1148
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: notion that the ACC is wide open. It was the

1149
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: most wide open conference last year, so we'll know.

1150
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: We'll know fairly early on.

1151
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: But I would go big twelve, Pack twelve, and ACC.

1152
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: In that order.

1153
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: This is gonna be so much fun. I mean, I

1154
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: know there are so many people in the live chat

1155
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: right now that are experiencing two things. So the first

1156
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: thing I want to tell you, and then I got

1157
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: a bad, bad story to end the show with.

1158
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great for you, it's gonna be bad

1159
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: for me.

1160
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: The first thing I want to tell you, as you

1161
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: may have noticed, we have opened the Late kickstore twice

1162
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: and you have drained it just completely dry twice. So

1163
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: the first thing you need to know is we are

1164
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: opening that thing up again early this week. And that's

1165
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: as specific as I can get because I want to

1166
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: give everyone an equal chance to grab some merch. Hopefully

1167
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 2: we'll be able to keep it open longer this time.

1168
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: Very soon, the day is coming where we'll just be

1169
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: able to keep it open. So a few more hiccups

1170
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: to work out there. The second thing I want you

1171
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: to know is I made you a promise earlier today,

1172
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: and that promise was I'm going to show you Producer Jesse.

1173
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: And you may have noticed we're fifty four minutes into

1174
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: the show and you haven't seen him yet. But I

1175
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: am a man of my word. Not only am I

1176
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 2: about to show you Producer Jesse. When I double clap,

1177
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: he'll come out here because I've got him on a

1178
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: clapper system. I am going to bring Producer Jesse onto

1179
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: the set wearing our best selling shirt from the Late Kickstore. So,

1180
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: without further ado, Producer Jesse walks right on camera wearing

1181
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: the Don't Be Casual t shirt, which has been our

1182
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: hottest seller in the Late Kickstore Peyte steak clearly written there,

1183
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: established in twenty twenty right here on the left nipple.

1184
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: You see it.

1185
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: So, Producer Jesse has become sort of a model of

1186
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: sorts for our most popular merch And while I'm happy

1187
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: that this has moved really, really hot so far, I've

1188
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: got some ideas, and we've got some shirts, We've got

1189
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: some hoodies, we got some golf polos soon to come

1190
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: that I think are going to move even better than this.

1191
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: So thank you can shoot up. Thank you, Producer Jesse.

1192
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: I am a man of my word. That was him

1193
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: in living flesh. Let there be no more question, Producer Jesse,

1194
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: as real as real can be. I hate that I'm

1195
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 2: about to do what I'm about to do.

1196
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: But I've got to.

1197
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: I got I gotta tell you guys a story because

1198
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: I know it's going to get out anyway fro I

1199
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: might as well tell you sip of coffee. Yeah. So

1200
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: we were down in Atlanta for SEC Media Days this

1201
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: past week. That much, you know, we had Brian Kelly,

1202
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Sam Pitt, and Josh Heipel on

1203
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: Lake kick that much. You also know, very very successful

1204
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: week for us. Here's what you don't know. When we

1205
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: were doing the show Tuesday, I was all set up

1206
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: ready to go there. We're at the Omni in Atlanta

1207
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: and it's about four fifty in the afternoon and we're

1208
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: gonna go live at five o'clock and there's your odds

1209
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: to win the PAC twelve just if anyone's curious. So

1210
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: we are all set to go live, got about ten

1211
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: minutes to spare, you know, the crews getting the final

1212
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: final touches put In and Claude Felton, known as the

1213
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: Claude Father in the sec it just runs the University

1214
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: of Georgia. He walks up and says, hey, are you

1215
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: gonna have Kirby on the show tomorrow? And I said, well, Claude,

1216
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: he's not scheduled to be on. I'm gonna have Sam

1217
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 2: Pittman on the show. And the way it was working

1218
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: was the coaches were rotating through our CBS room and

1219
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: Barrett Celie and Dennis Dodd had been nice enough to

1220
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: let me grab the ones that I wanted for the show,

1221
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: and he couldn't grab all of them obviously, So if

1222
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: you weren't on the show, it's not because I didn't

1223
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: want you.

1224
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: We had to be a reason. But I was not

1225
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: gonna have Kirby.

1226
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: The next day. So Claude said, do you want to

1227
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: get him on the show earlier? And I said, I

1228
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: like what we're saying here, Claude continue, He said, well,

1229
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: I'll get him out here early seven forty five in

1230
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 2: the morning, sound good for you, and I said, yeah,

1231
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: we'll pre recording.

1232
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: It will be good to go. I was very excited

1233
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: because that means we get.

1234
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: Two sec head coaches in one day on.

1235
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: The show, and so it's all set.

1236
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Kirby right there on our set. We're

1237
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: gonna pre record it, we'll can everything, and we'll be

1238
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: done by eight o'clock in the morning. I went up

1239
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: to my room. I'm working on about seven hours of

1240
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: sleep over the past two nights, which is important because

1241
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: of what I'm about to tell you. I was watching

1242
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: the All Star Game innocently enough, not a drop of alcohol,

1243
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: not a not a single bit of mischievous behavior.

1244
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: That evening.

1245
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm watching the All Star Game in my hotel room.

1246
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: It may be ten fifteen at the latest, and I

1247
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: fall asleep and I never wake up. I got my

1248
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: contacts in, I got the TV on alarm, it's not set,

1249
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: and I wake up at eight thirty eight am the

1250
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: next morning. I slept straight from ten fifteen to eight

1251
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: thirty the next morning, and when I peeked at my

1252
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: phone and I saw forty two missed calls, it was

1253
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: the deepest sense of dread I have felt since missing

1254
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: a final at Harris County High School because I slept

1255
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: in And you cannot even imagine the panic that set

1256
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: in in that hotel room. And I called down there

1257
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: and I just told him I'll be there as soon

1258
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: as I can. And I get to the lobby and

1259
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: Kirby's gone and Claude's gone, and I find out that

1260
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: Barrett Sali had just been an innocent bystander and he

1261
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: had he had been there when Kirby and claud are

1262
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: waiting on me, and he grabbed the interview that he

1263
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: was supposed to get later in the day. So I thought,

1264
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: all's well, that ends well. I thought, you know, maybe

1265
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: at the time I was unaware of what had happened.

1266
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: Maybe Claude had cleaned it up. Maybe Kirby's unaware of this,

1267
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't know anything. So a couple hours later,

1268
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: he agrees to come back, so we're gonna get him,

1269
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: and I have a poker face on.

1270
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 1: No one knows anything.

1271
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna be and then Kirby pieks his head in

1272
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: the room and he says, you wait, were good to

1273
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: do this now, and that was it, and I broke down,

1274
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: not crying, but the guard went down and I told him,

1275
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: if I were you, I would not be in this

1276
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: room right now. Somehow, coming off a national championship, Kirby

1277
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: Smart found his He found it in his heart to

1278
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: let us sleep in on him. We just ghosted him

1279
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: for the interview. We just know, showed him no explanation,

1280
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: no card left on the table, no nothing. And he

1281
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: still came back and he did the show, gave us

1282
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: one of the best interviews we had all week. But

1283
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: for someone to have come off a national championship and

1284
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: us to lock him down for an interview, which by

1285
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: the way, he's going out of his way to do,

1286
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: and then we ghost him, it is. It's the most

1287
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: embarrassed I've ever been professionally. Got to be the most

1288
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: embarrassed ever. And I wear the same shirt on air

1289
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: every night. Okay, so this is saying something when I

1290
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: tell you I was more embarrassed for our brand in

1291
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: that moment than I am when it comes to my

1292
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: wardrobe on this show. But we still got the interview done.

1293
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll let me forget it, nor do

1294
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: I expect him to, But boy do I appreciate him

1295
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: coming back because it really it made the show a

1296
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: lot better, and now that I have shared that with you,

1297
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: it can't be held over my head.

1298
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Speaker 1: So I guess all's well.

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Speaker 2: That ends well on multiple fronts. Hey, thank you so

1300
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Speaker 2: much for watching the show. We had, as I said,

1301
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: a lot of important meetings and a lot of important interactions.

1302
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Speaker 1: This week.

1303
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: We did five shows in a row. That's not something

1304
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: that we necessarily do format wise, but you made it

1305
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: possible just getting started.

1306
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: We got so much planned before the season. There is nothing.

1307
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: There are no restraints on the show because of what

1308
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: you've done, so we just we get whatever we want

1309
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: and we will make it worth your while, all while

1310
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: not changing anything about what you love about the show.

1311
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: So for no longer a stranger, producer, Jesse still an enigma, director,

1312
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Speaker 2: comic We'll see.

1313
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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Spain. Have a great start to your week,

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Speaker 1: Take care and got B love.