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Speaker 1: Welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Jack's am is back with you today and we were

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Speaker 2: at training camp kicked off yesterday. We have a very

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Speaker 2: special guest, Bucky Brooks's with us this morning. John Oser.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we were all here yesterday and finally we're

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Speaker 2: back in real football season. I know John loves training

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Speaker 2: camp as much as I do. It's our favorite time.

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Speaker 2: We're finally seeing real football again. Pad's go on next week.

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Speaker 2: But still I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you should be excited. It's a new year,

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Speaker 3: new year, newest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say, training camps my favorite time

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Speaker 4: of year. I love the regular season, but it's uh, Look,

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Speaker 4: this is an exciting time to be around this franchise.

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Speaker 4: We all talked all off season about storylines in the

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Speaker 4: off season, and you can talk about them all you want, Bucky,

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Speaker 4: but until you see it out here, Pads, which is

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Speaker 4: what Tuesday, I think it's all talk On Tuesday, the

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Speaker 4: action starts.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do some big things. Our big thing.

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Speaker 2: Number one is obviously we're back. We're back in the building,

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Speaker 2: back on the field. Buckets of an eventful offseason to

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Speaker 2: say the least. But what is this time of year

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Speaker 2: mean when you kind of finally get back here playing

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Speaker 2: football for real.

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Speaker 3: Well there, it's real.

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Speaker 5: So all the things that you porize, all the things

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Speaker 5: that you talk about in meetings, now we can put

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Speaker 5: them into practice. We've heard so much about the new

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Speaker 5: regime and the new culture and the new energy in

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Speaker 3: Well, now we get a chance to see it play out.

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Speaker 5: And for Liam Coyn, is about building the team, getting

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Speaker 5: this team ready to play. You got six weeks to

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Speaker 5: get it done, but it's about the first step in

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Speaker 5: the process.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the team, I.

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Speaker 4: Think for me detail wise, I know I love the

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Speaker 4: receivers and the skilled players on this team. I want

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Speaker 4: to find out on Tuesday if it's okay to start

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Speaker 4: loving the offensive line, which is really going to be

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Speaker 4: the storyline. We can see the non padded stuff. I

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Speaker 4: can't wait until Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Big thing Number two is going to be two way. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: one of the huge stories of the off season. Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna play on both sides of the football as

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Speaker 2: of right now. Yeah, they have him.

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Speaker 6: Practicing on offense.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Liam Cohen talked a little bit about what

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Speaker 2: that's going to look like in terms of training camps

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Speaker 2: for Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he will probably within the first you know, six

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Speaker 7: practices or show, like, we'll probably have them. You know,

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Speaker 7: you want to give him a couple of days offense,

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Speaker 7: couple of days defense, and then give him an opportunity

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Speaker 7: to go flip flopped within the same practice, and then

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Speaker 7: that will kind of become the norm, right Like, once

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Speaker 7: we do that, that'll kind of become the norm and

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Speaker 7: how we operate. But it'll probably be within the first

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Speaker 2: John, That was Cohen talking a little bit about he'll

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Speaker 2: start offense defense, then some practices Travis Hunter will play

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the football. It seems like a

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Speaker 2: very fluid situation from what we've heard so far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, first off, I love how transparent they are about this.

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Speaker 4: I've been around franchises that would have tried to hide

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Speaker 4: this and make it a big mystery. It's a huge

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Speaker 4: storyline around the league and locally. And Becky I thought

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Speaker 4: it was interesting yesterday when talked about they figured out

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Speaker 4: in the off season program that the scheduling having Travis

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Speaker 4: away from the offense for too long wasn't a great

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Speaker 4: assume you need sort of the memory coming back and

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Speaker 4: the review quickly. Think about when you're in school, you

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Speaker 4: need to review quickly. So they've adjusted that a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Fascinating storyline as we go forward. How they're going to

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Speaker 4: train him to get ready to play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think this is almost using a page

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Speaker 5: from a high school playbook. You think about the local

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Speaker 5: high school coaches how they would utilize Travis Hunter, and

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Speaker 5: what you want to do is make sure you maximize

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Speaker 5: him on offense and then utilize him in defense and

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Speaker 5: what we call those gotta habit situations.

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Speaker 3: You think about third.

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Speaker 5: Down, red zone, two minute, end of half situations where

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Speaker 5: you need to get the ball back to me. He's

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Speaker 5: an offensive player that's wanted to make sure you take

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll talk a little bit more about his

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Speaker 2: skill set coming up, but it is exciting to kind

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Speaker 2: to go and how they will you exactly. Our final

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Speaker 2: big thing today is going to be tones better practice

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Speaker 2: is obviously a new design. Liam Cohan talked a little

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Speaker 6: Fucking maybe you could speak to this specifically.

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Speaker 2: It feels like they're doing a lot more team segments

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Speaker 2: that we've seen before in tast regimes where they focus

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Speaker 2: a little bit more individually, at least so far, because

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Speaker 2: they really want to kind of get both the new

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so some coaches operated under plus we use the

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Speaker 5: off seasons to do all of.

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Speaker 3: The individual work.

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Speaker 5: But now that we're in the regular season training camp,

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Speaker 5: let's make sure we get the team things done.

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Speaker 3: Because you talked about the limited days and pads.

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Speaker 5: You're trying to make sure that this offense and this

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Speaker 5: when the regular season kicks off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday I got here on time, which I always did,

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Speaker 4: but I was sort of, you know, rolling out to

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Speaker 4: practice a little bit. Got there, and they started team

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Speaker 4: in period five and get right to it. They were

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Speaker 4: not starting team period five here in the last couple

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Speaker 4: it's a difference. I also thought, Bucky, Uh, first day,

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Speaker 4: no pads, it seemed like every other play not to

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Speaker 4: give away the farm, they were calling a running play.

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Speaker 4: That felt a little symbolic to me of Hey, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna run. We wanna start working on They want to

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Speaker 4: start working on it as well. But I thought there

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Speaker 4: was a little bit of a tone setting in that sense,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna run and we're gonna get into this fast

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Speaker 4: to me. Two eleven on eleven two seven on seven,

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Speaker 4: day one on a ninety minute practice that felt intense

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Speaker 4: and ramped up for what's supposed to be a ramp

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Speaker 2: A right good, All right, stay with us here on JAGXAM.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back in a little bit. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about the first day of camp, which was yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: we'll also hear from your quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. JA exam

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Speaker 7: You know, going into this year in your in your development,

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Speaker 7: your eyes have to be a weapon and your feet

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Speaker 7: have to be in rhythm, right because we know once

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Speaker 7: stuff starts moving, it's not going to always be perfect.

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Speaker 7: So if we can continue to drill that. I thought

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Speaker 7: he had a good day, like I said, today, and

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Speaker 7: he's taken to it right. He was right foot up

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Speaker 7: all last year and really the course of his career

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Speaker 7: and now he's left foot up in the shotgun I'm

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Speaker 7: talking about, So that kind of involves a little bit

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Speaker 7: of a different rhythm footwork, and I thought, I think

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Speaker 2: Head coach Lean Cohne talking about Trevor Lawrence and what

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Speaker 2: they've been working with him on in this offseason and

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Speaker 2: now into training camp.

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Speaker 1: Bucky, when you've heard a lot.

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Speaker 2: About footwork, when you're hearing him describe different situations, how

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Speaker 5: Difference is that, Well, it matters because the quarterbacks footwork

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Speaker 3: The timing and the depth of the route.

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Speaker 5: And so if you get Trevor's feet on point and

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Speaker 5: he's over with the roster, you have more rhythm, more

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Speaker 5: consistency when it comes to the past again, and it's

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Speaker 5: the little things. It's the details that matter in this league.

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Speaker 5: When you have a defense that's so fast and they

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Speaker 5: can close face quickly, it is about being on the

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Speaker 5: same page quarterback and wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think fans who really want to understand this,

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Speaker 4: it'd be good to listen to the pressers yesterday because

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Speaker 4: both Liam and Trevor talked about in pretty good detail.

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Speaker 4: It seems like they want as much from the quarterback

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Speaker 4: position to get on autopilot, and it's impossible to do,

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Speaker 4: of course, but in theory, try to get as much

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Speaker 4: on autopilot as they can, knowing that every play at

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Speaker 4: some points going to knock you off autopilot. But keep

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Speaker 4: it there as long, keep the cues, keep the feet

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Speaker 4: dictating what he's doing, so that he can go without

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Speaker 4: thinking as long as he can, and then when you

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Speaker 4: have to think, your mind's clearer to make a play.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Liam might take that analysis and laugh at it, but

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Speaker 4: I think that's close to what they're talking about. I

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Speaker 4: think it's being fascinating to watch because they are really

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Speaker 4: drilling Trevor and some fun mentals. The eye stuff Bucky

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Speaker 4: was fascinating to me because you do see more veteran

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Speaker 4: hasn't done that a lot. Clearly, Liam thinks that's a

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Speaker 4: place where he can take a step.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if you can't get to that next

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Speaker 5: level we're talking about year five being able to level up,

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Speaker 5: that's part of the leveling up process, Like you want

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Speaker 5: Trevor to go from being a good player to a

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Speaker 5: great player, and it comes down to the details, but

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Speaker 5: it also comes down to adding other parts to the

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Speaker 5: game that helps the elite quarterbacks separate themselves from others.

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Speaker 2: They're catering it to them, but they're not making it easy.

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Speaker 2: They made him take a test when he came.

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Speaker 3: Back, and I'm a big believer in that.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence talked a little bit about the offensive testing

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Speaker 2: he got when he came back.

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Speaker 3: Common. No, it's not common. It was.

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Speaker 8: It was pretty difficult, and not all the questions. Some

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Speaker 8: of them were some layups, but I mean, yes, there

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Speaker 8: were some good there were some good questions and there's

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Speaker 8: some tough ones that kind of got us back, get

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Speaker 8: us back going for camp and get the minds going

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Speaker 8: and you know, all the stuff you have to do

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Speaker 8: as a quarterback. It was going to kind of encompassed

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Speaker 8: our whole offense and whether it's scheme protections. There was

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Speaker 8: a lot of stuff that was good to do as

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Speaker 8: like one of our first days back to kind of

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Speaker 8: make sure we're ready to go. And we've been looking

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Speaker 8: over our stuff this offseason.

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Speaker 1: So the quarterback's taking that test.

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Speaker 2: I think Trevor said he got about an eighty five

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Speaker 2: solid beam, but it's still room for improvement. What I've noticed,

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Speaker 2: at least with Trevor, obviously it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: completely new system is third new system here since he's been.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like what a lot of it will

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Speaker 2: come down to is how comfortable he Isn't it right?

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Speaker 2: And you can tell at least John from what I've

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Speaker 2: heard as well early he feels comfortable at least so far.

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Speaker 4: Well, And I think this camp's going to show a lot.

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Speaker 4: It seems like if you get good offensively and can

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Speaker 4: So I think they looked at it and said, Travis

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Speaker 4: That's where they have a chance. If they're gonna be better,

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Speaker 3: A chance to do it. Very good.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a little jealous of the emoji.

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Speaker 1: I will say John has earned it.

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Speaker 4: He got the graph well, and on this day, thirty

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Speaker 1: All right, let's we'll circle.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Gary from Fleming Island. I go to

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Speaker 2: Jaguars in ESPN dot com. I can find a current

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Speaker 2: Why is there a difference?

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Speaker 4: Well, we can use this talk about the depth chart

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Speaker 4: They're all unofficial, So just write the ozone if you

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Speaker 4: want to figure out who the backup guard is. Right now,

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Speaker 4: I'll lead you the best I can, But Bucky, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if here's a depth chart as in pencil, not

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Speaker 5: This is the old school essence of what training camp

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Speaker 1: I will say it's a little different than last year.

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Speaker 2: I do want to differentiate and say it's not because

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Speaker 1: We're not doing that again.

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Speaker 3: Is the point like that?

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Speaker 1: That's not my favorite?

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Speaker 3: Everybody ever gets a trophy.

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Speaker 6: I won't speak for the fans, but we're moving on anyway.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about one of my favorite videos I've seen.

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Speaker 1: This is actually a question. It's from Pete from Queensbury,

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars won the fourteen You Boys Flag Football Championship.

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Speaker 6: Is this a sign for the Jaguars? Have you seen

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Speaker 4: But I've seen, Yes, I've seen the catch. It's a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's eighteen rys and Wright Fromandarin.

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Speaker 4: He learned it from twenty two.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Sure it is?

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Speaker 3: That is a great catch.

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Speaker 5: So even before this, he was like flag football player

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville does not play about flag football at all, and

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Speaker 3: It is it's a good omen.

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Speaker 4: It may as well be a good championships. It's Travis

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, look at that.

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Speaker 6: Look at this.

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Speaker 1: Look et he's ready.

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Speaker 6: Let's suit them up.

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Speaker 1: Look at him out of camp.

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Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we'll tell you what's coming

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Speaker 1: Uh don't want to miss it if you haven't seen it.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe they cut my sink.

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Speaker 1: I saw you in there.

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Speaker 3: We'll just wait a built next time. Hur the Championship

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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