1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Oh, Brent Tackle My Steve taster tex Dome, Tex Dome 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: t Tasto time. Welcome the one Bill's Live Steeve Task 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown here broadcasting from Western New York 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: on a spectacular Monday following a spectacular weekend where you know, 5 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Brownie, but I spent a 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: lot of time outside yesterday and you can and like always, 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: it's always a little bit refreshing, a little bit exciting 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: when the grip of the pandemic is loosened a little bit, um, 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: people are a little bit freer to do a little 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: bit more here in phase two. I think it was 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: like the first weekend of phase two. Uh so that 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: was kind of cool for you, right, and for me 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. We uh we made a hike up 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Geneseo on Saturday. My wife and I both to college 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: out there, So we dragged the kids along with us, 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: even the dog, who may have been more fired up 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: than anyone to go on a hike. So we did 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: that and kind of went around campus, which is eerily 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: quiet now as you might imagine it's summertime. Anyway, there 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be any students there even without a pandemic. But 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: we did that on Saturday, and there's a warplane museum 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: down there, which is really cool, and they were doing 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: flyovers because it was the anniversary of D Day, so 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: there was like a C forty seven P fifty one. 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: There were some cool planes flying right over the college 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: campus because the warplane museum is literally a half mile 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: south of it, on the other side of Root sixty 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: three down there. So our timing just happened to be 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: really good on Saturday, and it was beautiful there in 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the valley. Crazy thing. So, you know, the school is 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: in the Genesee Valley there, it's seventy seven degrees at 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: about ten to four when we hop in the car 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: to go home. We get back to Buffalo around five 34 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: and it's sixty eight. Like it was almost a ten 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: degree difference from from the valley there to back here, 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: you know, closer to the lake. It's just it was 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: crazy that there was a ten degree difference. Um, But 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: that's how it works, I guess could tell could you 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: tell people were out a little more? Were there people out? 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Was there a lot of Yeah? So we were on 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: this hiking trail that unfortunately proved a little too treacherous 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: for our dog. It was really steep. There's even one 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: part where it was for your dog, right because there 44 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: it was so steep. There's a there's this one area 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: where they actually have a rope tied to a tree 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: to help you scale down. So once we got to 47 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: that point, we kind of had to turn back because 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: we had the dog with us, and the last thing 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: I wanted was her to go careening down the side 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: of the side of the ridge there with with me 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: holding out of the least and getting dragged down the 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: mountain too. Big dog people are small dog people. Yeah, 53 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: our dog's fifty two pounds, she's she's pretty big, so 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: pretty good, ye, So yeah, I didn't want to run 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: into that kind of a snaffoo on a day where 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to enjoy yourself outside. So we, uh, we 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: headed back and cut it a little short. So, plus, 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: she's a little she's not rickety, but she's a little older, 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: so we don't want to take the chance there. Yeah 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about Yeah, you're talking about the dog, right, 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: not you. Yeah, we talked about the dogs, right, Yeah, 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: very funny. So so we basically we basically hijacked the 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: hike and did the rest of it walking around the 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: college campus a little bit, which our kids kind of 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: got to kick out of since they're getting pretty close 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: to college at time anyway. So yeah, so it's all. 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: It is starting to change a little bit people are, 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: particularly with the weather change and all of that. Now 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: we're starting to feel a little bit more once again, 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the constraints that are that are on us all because 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: of the pandemic, Governor Cuomo. You know, the church's temple's 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: moss they all remope opened at twenty five percent capacity, 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: and you know, you had to register online to go 74 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: to the church I attend, which is you know, because 75 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: they didn't want, you know, two thousand people to show 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: up when they only had room for, you know, for 77 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: five hundred. So that's that was the thing, right And 78 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: then now the NFL is starting to reopen its doors. 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: How how's it gonna work? I mean, you know, obviously 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: most fans could not possibly care less if Sean McDermott 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: is actually in the officer at home right now. But 82 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: they are starting to open the buildings, which you know 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: is on the horizon. Brownie, We've got a deal. Somebody's 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with the fact that they're not 85 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna allow seventy thousand people in new air of field 86 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: when the season starts. And right now, the season's gonna happen. 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: Whatever it looks like or whatever, they're gonna be playing 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: football games, it looks like right now, and I think 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: it could change obviously, but yeah, they're full steam ahead. 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: So you know what's that kind of look like? I mean, 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: we've seen did you see? This was hilarious? I thought 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: this was a great career in baseball. It's the only 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: live sport on the planet right now, right, North isn't 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: Korean and South Korea North south, right, So that's what 95 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: I know about baseball. Right, So they've gotten these guys 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: playing baseball, and in the background, what the baseball team did, 97 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: the home team was filled the stands with stuffed animals. Yeah, 98 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: I did see this. I don't know if it's the 99 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: entire stadium, but at least the most common camera shot 100 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: in a baseball game is obviously shot from center field, 101 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: where you see the pitcher or the bat or the 102 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: catcher the jump, you know, for every pitch. So behind 103 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: the backstop, yeah, there's like at least ten rows stuffy. 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: It looks like the stadium's full, right, and it's really 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: colorful and all that people, and it's it's it's I'll 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: tell you one thing, you can make church really interesting 107 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: filling in the rest of the empty seats with stuffed animals. 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: The kids might be a little distracted, but I would 109 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: certainly make church as interesting as I've ever seen. Because 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: Steve on Sunday, this before Cuomo, because Quomo passed that 111 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: thing on Sunday, didn't he the whole thing with church 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty five percent compari is on the weekend. So my 113 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: church couldn't turn that around in time. So what we 114 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: ended up doing on Sunday they had an outdoor mass 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: in the parking lot, so we parked across the street 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: because there's a Catholic school across the street, so they 117 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: they opened up their lot to let church parishioners park 118 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: over there, and then they came across the street to 119 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: the parking lot where there were like x is spray 120 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: painted in the parking spaces, obviously social distanced, and they 121 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: had ten or twelve volunteers, you know, shepherding people to 122 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: their respective X marks the spot area, and and our 123 00:06:53,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: our our priest was uh, you know those constructions or 124 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, electric line. Uh, I don't even know what 125 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: the heck to call him, but they basically are a 126 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: scaffold that extends straight up in the air via motor 127 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, it's one of those like they 128 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: used for Yeah. Yeah, but I don't even know high lift. Yeah, 129 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: high lifts. So yeah, they were getting on the platform. Yeah, yeah, 130 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: he's on a high lift. Now it's not extended upwards, 131 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: but it was just high enough in its retracted position 132 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: where everyone in the parking lot could see him. Of course, 133 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the service, he was telling one 134 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: of the guys that set it up, Hey, I'd love 135 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: to go twenty feet up in the air right now. 136 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: This would be us a brownie that much, that much 137 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: closer to heaven. He wanted to be extended all the 138 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: way up. But our priest was pretty funny. He was 139 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: he was down low because we could all see him 140 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: from there, um, but he was asking the guy to 141 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of get him up in the air even higher. 142 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: So that would have been pretty comical and entertaining if 143 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: he did that. But the service went off pretty much 144 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: without a hitch. The whole communion thing was interesting because 145 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, they had to have, you know, the ministers 146 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: coming through, you know, with the hosts, and then right 147 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: behind him was a person with hand sanitizer because what 148 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: they were doing, they was just trying to drop the 149 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: host into your cupped hands rather than placing it in 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: your hands, because they didn't want to touch one person 151 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: and then touch another person. And if by accident they did, 152 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: they had someone with hand sanitizer right behind them to 153 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: spray the guy's hands before he went to the next 154 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: person with the next host. And I did see that 155 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: they had to do that a couple of times, so 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: they took any in all precautions. But fortunately it was 157 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: a beautiful day on Sunday, so that made for a night. 158 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: That's one of only three outdoor services I've ever done. 159 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: The other two outdoor services I've ever done one was 160 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: in Hawaii on my honeymoon and the other one was 161 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: in Jamaica a year or two ago, where that's just 162 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: kind of what they do down there because the weather's 163 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: always the right right. Yeah, I don't. I don't used 164 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: to be that. I would do an outdoor service once 165 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: a year every Alice did sunrise service on Easter right, um, 166 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: so we were always out in some place for the wilderness. Yeah, exactly. Um, 167 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: it's yeah, that was back when I was growing up. 168 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: But and that was because my dad was the pastor 169 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and I had to get up, so so I had 170 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: no choice to get up and be there at sunrise 171 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: and my Sunday best. That's stunk, But that is where 172 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: I that was my outdoor church activities, and that's what 173 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: they were limited to. Also. Hey, by the way, there's 174 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: another memo out to go ahead, Brown, you got something. 175 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, I was just gonna say with you know, 176 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: with these as you were saying, with these church services 177 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: now approving twenty five percent capacity, the thing that got 178 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: you and I thinking about this with respect to the 179 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: NFL is that's indoors. I mean, that's that's closed confinement. 180 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: In a church. You can do twenty five percent capacity. 181 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I'd like to think in an outdoor stadium come September, 182 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: unless you know the data and the numbers go sideways 183 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: with COVID, that we'll be able to have some amount 184 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: of fans, right, I mean they're already percent capacity in Texas. Yeah. 185 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: I think what they'll have to do is and what 186 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: they do is they get a seating chart for every 187 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: section and you could probably go to say sixty feet 188 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: apart in the in the stadium. The way is now, 189 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: you'd have to get two seats between you and the 190 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: person next to you, right, You wouldn't have to go 191 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: every every other seats kind of close because you could 192 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: reach out and touch each other. Right. Um. I think 193 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: in this one you'd have to skip every other seat, 194 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: or or find out which families are seating themselves together, 195 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: like how many tickets do you have? Our family has 196 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: four tickets, all right, so those four seats would be 197 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: blocked off here. And then so you allow groups in. 198 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: You're saying like, well, yeah, these four people can sit together. 199 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: They're in their own little family circle. How can you 200 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: how can you do that? Though? I mean you can't. 201 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: Well you're not going to be in your normal seats. 202 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: You can't do that. I mean, there's no way you 203 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: could get the logistics to say, okay, in section whatever whatever, 204 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: you've got three pods of fifteen people that are together, 205 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, and then everybody else 206 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: is spread out. Here's because so what happened would would 207 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: be would they just have to spread it out? It's 208 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a lotteries. I guess. I don't know. I'm 209 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: guessing I don't we don't know anything. Lottery systems spa 210 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: lottery system. Here's the tickets sign up for him. You 211 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: know what I was thinking too, because you know, and 212 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: I just said this a couple of weeks ago in 213 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: the show, the secondary market for the twenty five percent 214 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,359 Speaker 1: of the tickets that are there is gonna be skyrocketing. 215 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna want to be there, right, you want to 216 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: be there about this? Just from math Steve, if you're 217 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: a season ticket holder. And look, Steve and I are 218 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: just spitball and we don't know that these are gonna 219 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: be the rules. So please the CGR Ticket office with 220 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: with Steve and Chris on the air, said this is 221 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: gonna happen. What's We're just we're just speculating as to 222 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: what's going on. But I gotta think, you know, whatever 223 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: the rules are when we get closer to September, you know, 224 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: whether it's twenty five percent capacity or fifty percent. Let's 225 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: just say it's fifty percent capacity body September, Okay, because 226 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: that's what Texas is at already, or at least that's 227 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: what their governor is saying. So if you get to 228 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: fifty percent capacity, you're a season ticket holder, you're used 229 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: to go into eight home games. Does that mean you're 230 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: only going to four? I don't know, right, maybe maybe 231 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: you're only going to four because only half of the 232 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: people can go, right and may yeah, maybe they give 233 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: you force. And here's the thing too, that which games 234 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: do you get as opposed to which games somebody else get? 235 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's that's gonna be. That's gonna 236 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: be a luck of the draw or you know, by whatever. 237 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: Who knows. I have no idea how they're going to 238 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: do that. Also, today the NFL sound a membo and 239 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: talking about detailing protocols are going to be in pushed 240 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: when the players come back. But interesting, we're gonna have 241 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: to dive into this soon. Six feet between guys lockering together, 242 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, listen to Bill's locker room. Is is posh, 243 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: no no question about it. It's it's pretty plush. But 244 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: it's not built to have six feet between each guy. Well, right, 245 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I will say this, certainly not for the offseason roster, 246 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: no way, Jose Like just no, not not with ninety 247 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: one guys. Um, you know, when they get down to 248 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: fifty three with what is it a twelve man practice 249 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: squad now, so that's sixty five players. Uh, they might 250 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to I'm thinking like they're big, their 251 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: lockers are big, they have a lot of space, but 252 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: you'd still have to go every other And I'm just 253 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: trying to think in my mind's eye, there's usually about 254 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: ten spare lockers that are unoccupied on the one back 255 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: wall where they usually don't have anyone, right and so, 256 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: but that I don't know if that's enough. I don't 257 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: know if that's enough spare lockers to spare. It's not 258 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: have it every other I don't think it is not. 259 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: And what they would do probably pirates some space out 260 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: in the practice facility. Hang up some of those. Uh. 261 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: I've seen some teams do it where they shift lockers. Yeah, 262 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: make shift lockers. They'll have them set up outside in 263 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: the corner of the field house over there where they've 264 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: got some space or maybe some storage space or wherever 265 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: back in the garage area or whatever. They you know, 266 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: we laugh about it, but they got to do it right. So, um, 267 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: they don't figure out some way to do it, but 268 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: they gotta you know, they got locker room, they got 269 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: to have people six feet apart. Uh, the meeting's got 270 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: to be conducted virtually, even when they're back in the building. 271 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: They've got to do that virtually when it's possible. Helmet 272 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: distancing right, helmet, shoulder pads. Everything's got to be disinfected 273 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: after and after every game. Uh, masks are going to 274 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: be required in the building unless they interfere with guys 275 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: actually on the field. Yeah, it's right right, And you 276 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: know that means in the building, walking around the hallways, 277 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: getting uh medical help, you know, assistance, you know trainers, 278 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: because you know the training staff's gonna have their hands 279 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: literally on these guys. You know. Uh, it's there's a 280 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: lot too good that goes in here. This isn't a 281 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: regular office space, you know. Well, and they've I think 282 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: you and I, whenever we get back in the building, 283 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: we're fully expecting to be wearing masks whenever we're moving 284 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: around too, Like as soon as the only time we 285 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: want to have a mask on, the only time we 286 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: won't is when we're on the air, right when we're 287 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna be on it back on MSG when we 288 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: get back to the stadium, and then then you and 289 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: I are probably gonna be six feet apart. Yeah, we'll be. Yeah, 290 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: we'll be sitting up opposite into that table that we're 291 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: usually at. So that's that's all part of the deal. So, um, 292 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: all this on the table, and it's it's strange too, 293 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: because um, you know, we're getting we're things are rolling on. 294 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Everything is different, um, and we're trying to we're all 295 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: in our own lives. We're trying to weave our way 296 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: through this. And it was it was very strange. Let's 297 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can remember it months really strange, 298 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: staying at home and starting to learn how to work 299 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: virtually really strange. And you couldn't go out. You couldn't 300 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: just say, hey, you know what, I'm gonna pop out 301 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: and go down to the story. You know, you just 302 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: kind of stop doing that, right. And you couldn't go 303 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: for a beer. You couldn't. You couldn't even you know, 304 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: go out and go see your friend. You couldn't. You know, 305 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: you had to talk to your neighbor from a distance. 306 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Now it's different, but it's equally 307 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: as strange trying to open this thing back up and 308 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of work but not remote and go back so 309 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: you can get back in the office, and every industry, 310 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: just like when we shut the thing down, every industry 311 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be a little different when it opens back up, 312 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: and the league is going to be the exact same way. 313 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: You and I are just a small part of it 314 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: going back in to get back on TV. It's it's 315 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna be just as strange coming out of it as 316 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: it was going in. Well, yeah, because you're gonna have 317 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: temperature checks. Players are probably gonna get tested at least 318 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: twice a week, maybe more, and they'll they'll get tested 319 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: depending on how fast they get those results back, which 320 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: I think that'll probably be as fast as possible. They'll 321 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: put it as late in the week. One of those 322 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: tests has to be maybe like night before game or 323 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: the morning before the day, the morning of the day, 324 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. Right, They'll get tested then to make sure 325 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: they can travel right, right, you know. And then all 326 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: the people that are working the charter flights are gonna 327 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: have to get tested and they're gonna be masked up. 328 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: All their service and all the stuff that goes on 329 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: on those planes is going to be curtailed and what 330 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: do yeah, what are you getting? Are you gonna eat anything? 331 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Or are they gonna or is the team gonna bring 332 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: their own food with them on the plane for the players, 333 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: you know that can tell the players to bring their 334 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: own stuff, you know, yeah, you did. I mean, there's 335 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: there are a lot of logistics here. The other thing too, 336 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: um NFL network reporter Tom Pella Sero, who was tweeting, 337 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL protocol memo out as to how 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: things are going to be set up here that Steve 339 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: was outlining. He also tweeted, no dates are set yet 340 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: and no mini camps are expected, but the NFL and 341 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: NFLPA are discussing the possibility of certain players like rookies 342 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: and vets who changed teams and still need physicals, going 343 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: back to the club facilities on a limited basis before 344 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: June twenty sixth. So it looks like they're trying to 345 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: make some exceptions, you know, for young players, veteran players 346 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: who change teams and maybe still haven't had a physical 347 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: yet to get into the club facilities sooner than perhaps 348 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: everybody else. And also, and I think we anticipated this, 349 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: but no June mini camps, right, which is the last 350 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: thing before training camp, all right, which is you know 351 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: that that gives them that's really When everything goes Dark 352 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: is in June and July. Last half of June, first 353 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of July, everything goes dark in the NFL. 354 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: The coaches get out one last time, spend some time 355 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: with their families before they get lockdown for the season. 356 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here one Bills Live. Later on 357 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: the show two o'clock hour, we're gonna have Lindsay Jones, 358 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: who's an NFL writer for the Athletic. She's also a 359 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: member of the Pro Football Writers Hall of Fame. She's 360 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna come on. We've got a lot of things going on. 361 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell and a lot of you probably saw this, 362 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: put out a video statement, probably from the exact same 363 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: basement that he conducted the draft from about and it 364 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: was basically an apology over his house. The NFL has 365 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: handled a lot of what's gone on and with it 366 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: all the way back to Colin Kaepernick and all that. 367 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: But also his real regret, I think was not listening, 368 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: he said, not listening to what the players had to say. 369 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: And then and the players had called out the NFL 370 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: about Hey, listen, you guys are being a little bit 371 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: too silent here. Guys like Pat Mahomes and Deshaun Watson 372 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: had come out and said, listen, you know, you guys 373 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: need to come out and join us, basically, and we 374 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: he so he did. He came out with a statement 375 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: and some of the words he used were actually verbatim, 376 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: just answering the players to what they said. And I 377 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: guess we can take it. Let's take a minute and 378 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: do that now. Let's as Roger Goodell over the weekend, 379 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: he addresses in this video message his players concerns about 380 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: the National Football League and their lack of attempts to 381 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: condemn racism and admit they were wrong in listening to 382 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: players over and Roger Goodell answered those critics that came 383 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: from the players ranks, and here's what he said. It 384 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: has been a difficult time for our country, in particular 385 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: black people in our country. First, Mikendosis, families of George Floyd, 386 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: Brianna Caleb Ahmad Rbrey, and all the families who live 387 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: in dirt, police brutality. We the National Football League, condemn 388 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: racism in the systematic oppression of black people. We the 389 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: National Football League, admit we were wrong for not listening 390 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: to NFL players earlier, and encourage all to speak out 391 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: and peacefully protests. We have the National Football League believe 392 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: lives matter. I personally protest with you and want to 393 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: be part of the much needed change in this country. 394 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: We without black players, there would be no National Football League, 395 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: and the protests around the country are emblematic of the 396 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: centuries of silence, inequality, and oppression of black players, coaches, fans, 397 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: and staff. We are listening. I am listening, and I 398 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: will be reaching out to players who have raised their 399 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: voices and others on how we can improve and go 400 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: forward for a better and more united NFL family. That 401 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: was Roger Goodell over the weekend. What do you make 402 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: of that? Brown? And I don't think there's any question. 403 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: And I've said this a ton. The NFL usually lands 404 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: on the right side of just about every issue. The 405 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: problem with the NFL is sometimes they move at the 406 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: pace of a glacier. They move very very slowly well, 407 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: and forget about the football side of it, where that 408 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: takes them years to decide about replay and get it 409 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: right and try this and try that. But also this 410 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: kind of stuff where the Rooney rule has been used 411 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: and set there for a while and now it kind 412 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: is inactive and they took they're kind of sluggish in 413 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: reacting to it and coming up with ways to solve 414 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: it instead of being out in front of it and 415 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: letting it evolve quickly like they let the game evolved. 416 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: But by and large, I've always said and I do 417 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: believe that the NFL ends up, whether it takes them 418 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: a long time to get there or not. And for 419 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: some things they're still not there. They do end up 420 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: in the right spot on most of these and on 421 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: all these issues. Yeah, and I don't want to and 422 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: this is just my take on it. In no way 423 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: am I speaking for you know, the black players in 424 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: this league. They're going to obviously have their take on 425 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: how well the league did with the commissioner's statement. I 426 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: think it's a start. It's certainly a start where the 427 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: league has gotten to a point where they're recognizing the 428 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: things that need to be recognized and they're admitting where 429 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: they themselves have come up short, which is, you know, 430 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: anything from acknowledging past efforts by players to silently protest 431 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: within the league during the season to physically or verbally 432 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: saying black lives matter. I mean, that's something that the 433 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: league has not said from an administration standpoint until last 434 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Friday night when Goodell's statement came out. Video statement came out. 435 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's certainly a step in the right direction, 436 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: and it's a start. And so I don't think by 437 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: any means is you know, the black community within the 438 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: league or at large satisfied. But I think they are 439 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: encouraged by this first step that the league has taken. Yeah, 440 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: and they've got a long way to go. I think 441 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: that now with a video like this, I mean freely 442 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: admits it, and how slow that they were to react 443 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: to it. But they do need to get on, like 444 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: all of us need to get on the right side 445 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: of the issue, particularly us who are you know, we're 446 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: we're up against, we rub up against and co work 447 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: happily and are privileged to work with a lot of 448 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: people of color in our industry in US, both in 449 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: staffs and the team, and we know and I don't 450 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: know about you, Bernie, but I know this. I've heard 451 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: loads and loads of stories that make you cringe about 452 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: how not just unknown people before this instant like George Floyd, 453 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: just everyday citizens, but black NFL football players who who 454 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: have been treated like this. Yeah, I was reading some 455 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: over the weekend. It has the guys that always get 456 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: when they get pulled over by police. The first question 457 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: some of them are asked is who this car is this? Yeah, 458 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: like automatically a police officer is assuming the guy driving 459 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: the car doesn't own the car because of the color 460 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: of his skin. It's just holy crap, man. Well, yeah, 461 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: it's not only that. I mean, it's happened. It goes 462 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot further than that. But that's just a small example. Yeah, 463 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: I've had friends who, you know, the cops have been 464 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: called on their wives because they went into a store 465 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: and tried to pay with, you know, one hundred dollar 466 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: bill and there's no way a woman of color could 467 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: legally come by a high dollar bill, you know, one 468 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: hundred dollar bill, right, So it's ridiculous. So that kind 469 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: of stuff happens all the time, and it never leaves. 470 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Some of our friends, they deal with it when they 471 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: leave the building, and unfortunately sometimes they feel like they 472 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: may deal with it when they're in the building. We got, 473 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, because we all need to do better. So, um, 474 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: it's the right. It's an issue that we all need 475 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: to get on the right side of. And I'm for one, 476 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: was guilty of being one of those guys where you know, 477 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: it wasn't on my plate all the time. So and 478 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: then sometimes you think that that's gotta be made up, right, 479 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's not made up. All all these 480 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: instances and this this, it's real. It is not a 481 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: made up issue to get a handout by whatever. It 482 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: is real and it happens every day, and it's it's 483 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: and I'm glad we're at least being forced to talk 484 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: about it, right. Yeah, And you know, I even I 485 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: even told Coach Frazier after he did his press conference 486 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: last Wednesday via zoom with the Western New York Media, 487 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: he was fantastic, And I told him that, I said, 488 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: just the way you encapsulated everything, uh and explained everything 489 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: is superb. And it made me realize, like I mean, 490 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: for I was fortunate to grow up in the New 491 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: York City area where you are exposed to a melting 492 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: pot of cultures, races, religions like you can't help but 493 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: see it all at an early age. You're exposed to 494 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: a lot. And everybody wears their heritage, their race, their 495 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: religion right on their sleeve. They're proud of it and 496 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: they should be and so that's the environment I grew 497 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: up in, where everybody's culture and religion was celebrated, and 498 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: I grew up thinking that was enough, you know, as 499 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: long as I personally respected everybody else's culture and heritage 500 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: and they respect in mind, we're all good. And all 501 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: of this has kind of been like an alarm clock 502 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: for me that it's not enough for me to respect 503 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: and celebrate other people's cultures as much as my own 504 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: because because of these deficiencies and gross injustices that are 505 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: out there. So now I've got to I feel like 506 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: I got to do more, you know, because of what 507 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: is kind of I don't want to say I ignored it, 508 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: but it's hard not to say I wasn't ignorant in 509 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: at least some capacity, just because I was completely unaware that. 510 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you see it, you you've heard of it, 511 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: but the extent to which it exists is very troubling. Yeah, 512 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: it's it's disturbing when you when you think about it, 513 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: and when you finally, you know, you turn over that 514 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: rock and you see what's underneath, is like, oh my gosh, 515 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: you know I didn't you know, some of us didn't know. 516 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Some of us kind of turned away, wanted to ignore it, 517 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: but now that I think it's a there's no question 518 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: that we're all aware of it, and we need to 519 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: do better and maybe and hopefully we will. Steve Tasker, 520 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, We're here till three o'clock. Lindsay Jones coming up, 521 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: a writer from the NFL Athletic She's been also a 522 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: member of the Pro Football Writers of America. She's coming 523 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: on later in the show. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. We're 524 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: coming back. Got a lot going on today. We've got 525 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: news and notes, uh, and also we can talk further 526 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: about the Commissioner's statement over the weekend about what the 527 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: NFL can do and is doing and what it feels 528 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: sorry about in the current climate of what we're experiencing. 529 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: We also have a Twitter question that we'll save till 530 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: after the break. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. One Bills Live 531 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: presentered by Kalid to Health and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. 532 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: Kee Tasker and Chris Brown. Excuse me here on a Monday. 533 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have there's 534 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: a frog there. Let me get a hold on. All right, 535 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: there we go, all right, so, uh, we're here till 536 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: three o'clock, We've got a Twitter question. We are going 537 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: to talk about the Buffalo Bills today. We kind of 538 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: it always takes us a while in the current climate 539 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: that we're in, social climate, we're in to get started 540 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: on the football thing. So today we're gonna get Twitter 541 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: question out there. If you want to get down on it, 542 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: you can. And the question is this, which part of 543 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: the Bills will make the biggest jump in twenty twenty 544 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: and why? And we gave you some some choices there, 545 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: and the first one is running game production we'll take 546 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: a jump in twenty twenty, or the defensive sacks will 547 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: take a jump in twenty twenty, or see deep ball 548 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: accuracy will take a jump in twenty twenty, or something else. 549 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: Give us a call at eight o three oh five 550 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five fifties. 551 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: Steve Tashmer Chris Brown will take your calls or will 552 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: read your replies on the tweet sheet. What's gonna take 553 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: the what part of the Bills is gonna make the 554 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: biggest jump in twenty twenty? The run game, the defensive sacks, 555 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: or deep ball accuracy with Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs, 556 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: John Brown, all these guys. Who's which one of those 557 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: three is gonna take the biggest jumper? Is it something else? 558 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: Give us a call at eight to three oh five 559 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: fifty and we'll talk to you about it. Chris, we've 560 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: been talking about the statement that Roger Goodell put out 561 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: over the weekend. I think it's significant and just said, 562 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, we were wrong. You know, we would not 563 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: be have a league if it weren't for black players. 564 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: We were wrong not to listen to them. And how 565 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: do you think that'll fly with the players around the league? Well, 566 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: I think those were probably the two most important components 567 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: in his statement. Admit they were wrong for not listening 568 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: to NFL players earlier about these social and racial injustices, 569 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: and then saying, we encourage you to speak out in 570 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: peacefully protest. Now, what that's going to look like in 571 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: the fall is anybody's guests. But most people are already 572 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: speculating about more kneeling and stuff like that. Whether that 573 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: happens or not, I guess remains to be seen. But 574 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: then this statement from Goodell, without black players, there would 575 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: be no National Football League. I think that's a gigantic statement. 576 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: By the NFL and one that is irrefutable. But to 577 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: hear him actually say, I mean, people are like, no, duh, 578 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, without black players, there would be no National 579 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: Football League. I mean, it's it's obvious, beyond belief. But 580 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: I think it is quintessentially important in this current climate 581 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: that it is voiced by the NFL commissioners. So the 582 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: fact that he said it, I think resonated in a 583 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: big way with players of color, without question. Yeah, it's 584 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: and it's not to let him off the hooker anything, 585 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: but it's much easier to say that now in this 586 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: climate than it was three and a half years ago, 587 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: right when people were getting kicked out of taxi cabs 588 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: because they worked for the National Football League because somebody 589 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: knelt at the flag. How absurd. It was absurd then, 590 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: and it's it's laughable now, not even laughable. It's it's 591 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: too serious to laugh about it. But it's you know, 592 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, the league always moves slow. Well yeah, it's 593 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: like and they end up in the right place. And 594 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: in this situation, uh, it really this pandemic and unfortunately 595 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: what happened with George Floyd and others like him exacerbated 596 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: the issue. And made it stark for most people, hopefully 597 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: wishfully everybody to get on the right side of the program, 598 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: right and including the National Football League. And here's the 599 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: other part of this statement that Goodell put out that 600 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: I think is going to lead to far more protest 601 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: and players using their platform more than ever before, because 602 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: before this statement, they were they were playing of African 603 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: American descent in this league that were genuinely concerned about 604 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: repercussions if they spoke out and used the NFL platform 605 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: to push forward what they felt or brought awareness to 606 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: what they felt were racial or social injustices for the 607 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: black community. And Colin Kaepernick is the prime example of that. 608 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: They all thought there, like him, whatever pre percussions, whether 609 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: it was gonna be the loss of a career or whatever, 610 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: certainly they were gonna be u it wouldn't have the 611 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: effect they wish it did, h that would it be okay? 612 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: Would they get suspended by their club, by their own owner, 613 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: or by the league, or by their coaching staff, um, 614 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: all of whom are probably white, you know, so they 615 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: and how would it be perceived by their teammates? They 616 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: all had reasons to not speak out, even if they 617 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: were so inclined to do so. And now I would say, 618 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: you'll probably get a more diversified form of peaceful and 619 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: maybe silent protests than you than just what happened in 620 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: the past, you know, with flag and all that. And 621 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: the wheels were in motion on this prior to you know, 622 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Goodell's video statement coming out last Friday. But there was 623 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: a NFL social media person that works for the league 624 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: who reached out to Michael Thomas of the Saints, and 625 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: then Michael Thomas rounded up twelve fifteen other players, including 626 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and Tyrann Matthew and a whole bunch of 627 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: other guys, Odell Beckham Junior, and they basically said a 628 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: good amount of the same things that Roger Goodell said, 629 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: in addition to listing specific names of victims at the 630 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: hands of police, whether it was a mad Rbury or 631 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: George Floyd, you know, Brianna Taylor. So they even went 632 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: a step further. But I think that was a small 633 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: snippet of what we can anticipate going forward. And the 634 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: commissioner gave him the green light, I mean when he said, 635 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: we admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL 636 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: players earlier and encourage all to speak out in peacefully protest. 637 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: To me, he's not just saying African American players. Any 638 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: player you want to speak out in peacefully protest, go 639 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: for it. So the green light has been given, and 640 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm really going to be interested to see the level 641 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: the creativity that players go to to make sure the 642 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: awareness exists everywhere. And then you know, obviously the next step. 643 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: But this is the green light that I think the 644 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: league needed to give the players. Yeah, and this pandemic 645 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: is probably delayed part of what of the result of 646 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: these protests. But when Congress gets back in session, when 647 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: when they go back to Washington, I want to see 648 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: the legislation that comes out of this. What's going to happen. 649 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: What are they going to do or are they going 650 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: to do something? Are they gonna make some changes the 651 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: institute some policies that will help untilt the know, make 652 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: it more level in all areas, the financial industry, the 653 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: social industry, you know, business, small business industry, you know 654 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: that that kind of institution where they can level that 655 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: playing field for everybody will be interesting. Steve Tasker, along 656 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: with Chris Brown Lindsay Jones, is coming up a writer 657 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: for the NFL Athletic Um, we've got uh. Also the 658 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: Twitter poll which one of the which one of these 659 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: groups will take the biggest jump in twenty twenty for 660 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills will be the run game, sacks for 661 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: the defense, deep ball accuracy, or something else. And also 662 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: we've got uh and I can't remember what it was. Oh, 663 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna do state of the State of the Bills 664 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: later on in the show running Backs. Um, we've done linebackers, 665 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: we've done UM. Defensive backs, we've done UM defensive line 666 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: uh so, and tight ends. We're gonna do the running 667 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: back position today, the State of the Buffalo Bills. Running Backs, 668 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: we've got their their roster. You can check it out. 669 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Zach Moss, t J. Yeld and Chris and Wade, 670 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: Antonio Williams, Pat DeMarco the fullback, and Reggie gilliam who's 671 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: an undrafted in twenty twenty. Of course, say you know, 672 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: we've got all those guys. We're gonna talk about the 673 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: running back room, what it's gonna look like, what might 674 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: be the ups and downs, and how many guys they 675 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: keep and and who's on the bubble perhaps, but all 676 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen as well. Steve Tasker on with Chris Brown, 677 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: We're here till three at one Bills Live. Who's gonna 678 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: take the biggest jump? What group's gonna take the biggest jump? 679 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: Is of these running backs? What is the running game 680 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: really gonna take a big boost this season because of 681 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: the cohesiveness of the offensive line, the new fresh legs 682 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: and the running backs. Is the defense gonna get more 683 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: sacks because of an upgraded secondary or because they just 684 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: got better with the draft and the development of the 685 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: young players. And is Josh Allen going to complete more 686 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: deep balls? Which one is it gonna be? You can 687 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: call us at eight o three oh five fifty or 688 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, Brad, 689 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: just off the top of your head. Before we get 690 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: to the running backs and all that, and what about 691 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: this twit question. I don't want to put any words 692 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: in your mouth. Yeah I was in Yeah I was. 693 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: I was in the minority with what I voted for. 694 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: I voted for the running backs jumping up in the 695 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: run game. I think there's going to be so much 696 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: more focus on the past defense by opponents. You know, 697 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: it's Stefan Diggs adding a dynamic element to the passing game. 698 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of situations where 699 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: it's a seven man box for that run game. I 700 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: think Zach Moss is an excellent short yardage back at 701 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: the very least, and I think it is going to 702 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: help convert some of those short yardage situations so Josh 703 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have to sneak it all the time, although he's 704 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: very successful doing it. And I think they'll be better 705 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 1: in the red zone when things get tight because they've 706 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: got a pile pusher like Zach Moss now. But I 707 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: just think what Diggs does is not only going to 708 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: give the other receivers more one on one matchups in 709 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: the passing game. I think it's also going to pull 710 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: that extra safety out of the box where they might 711 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: see more seven man boxes than they've seen in a 712 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: long time. It's gonna just a resultant production. Yeah, it's 713 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna force defenses to declare their perception 714 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: about the Buffalo offense. Usually you get into these games 715 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: and you can kind of tell, for instance, last year 716 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: that teams dared Buffalo and Josh able to throw the 717 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: football a little bit. You know, they would double up 718 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: John Brown, give one on one to help to Cole Beasley. 719 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: And then if you can beat them with Duke Williams 720 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,959 Speaker 1: or Isaiah McKenzie as a third wide receiver or Robert Foster, 721 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: if you're gonna beat us with those guys and a 722 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: run game, let's see you do it. And the Bills 723 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: were able to do it because it was up to 724 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: the you know, their team to score enough points to 725 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: do it, and they, you know a lot of teams 726 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: just couldn't score enough points to beat Buffalo's offense when 727 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: the defense was facing them like that. But now with 728 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: Stefan Digs out there, that defense is gonna be spread 729 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline and goal line to goal line. They're 730 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna be spread pretty thin across the field. It's gonna 731 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: make things easier in the run game. So it's pretty 732 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: good guess to think those running backs might have. I 733 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: actually don't ever vote because I don't want to twilt 734 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: the thing, so I always go other in the in 735 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: the process, I always say other because I don't want 736 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: to No, I don't think so. I think if I 737 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: was going to say something, I would say the defensive sacks. 738 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: I think they'll get off to a better start with 739 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: defensive sacks because here, I think the offense is going 740 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: to be more productive. I think it's gonna score more points. 741 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: I think teams are gonna be a little bit more 742 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: desperate offensively to score points. I don't think they were 743 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: really in a big hurry to score twenty five points 744 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: last year. Although every offense goes out and tries to score, 745 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: they were never put in. They were never put in 746 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: an off in a spot where they're down big, with 747 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: the exception or maybe the playoff game in Houston. In 748 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: Houston where they were down sixteen points in the second half, 749 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: then they became a little desperate and started to sling 750 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: it around. Teams didn't do that during the regular season. 751 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: Think I think they playing from ahead more this year. 752 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: I do. I do, and I think that means they're 753 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: gonna get more opportunities to get more sacks, particularly first 754 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: half of the season when Josh. If Josh continues not 755 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: to throw interceptions like he didn't in the last ten 756 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: or twelve games of the season last year, he knocked 757 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: his in complete his interception right down big time. And 758 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: I think if that continues to be the case, the 759 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: defense is gonna get a lot of chances to rush 760 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: the pastor is that it makes sense? Takes sense to me. Yeah, 761 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean there's the only thing that gives me a 762 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: little bit of trepidation is the fact that the schedule 763 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: is considerably tougher um and so will they be playing 764 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: ahead more than they were last year? Yes? To what degree? Yeah, 765 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's gonna be interesting knowing the AFC 766 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: West and the NFC West are two tough divisions, so 767 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna take some doing to get right. Yeah, 768 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: we're here untill three o'clock Steve Tasks where Chris Brown 769 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: one Bills Live, presented by Tolight of Health on Buffalo 770 00:42:53,400 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Well back from one of those lives Faster 771 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: Chris Brown here at chill three o'clock. Coming up at 772 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: the top of the hour, we're gonna open up our 773 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: discussion about the Bills running back state of the Bills 774 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: running backs. Who's gonna make the team, who's not going 775 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: to What do you expect from them? Who's on the bubble? 776 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: Who are you cheering for? I know we always whenever 777 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: we bring the running backs up Brown him, we always 778 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: get a ton of people who are still infatuated with 779 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: Christian Wade. They want that guy on the team, and 780 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: I hope, you know, hopefully he can contribute a little 781 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: bit this year and maybe find a roster spot. I 782 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: think it's an uphill climb for him, for sure, but man, 783 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: you want to talk about a guy able to get 784 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: more value out of a long touchdown run than Christian 785 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: Wade did from last year's preseason. People are still talking 786 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: about it. It's great. And also we got to twitter 787 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: poll as well, which part which group of the Buffalo 788 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Bills team, Which part of the team will make the 789 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: biggest jump in twenty twenty. Who've got some tweets on 790 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet? People are forgetting some feedback and from 791 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: all started off Brownie from Nick t He says, I 792 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: think our points per game will skyrocket. Our offense now 793 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: has a full year of chemistry together, and our roster 794 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: is more talented and well rounded than it was last year. 795 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: I hope we see our points per game average near 796 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: the mid twenties this year. That would be huge, no 797 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: question about it. To get up to twenty four twenty 798 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: five points a game category, yeah, History says overwhelmingly over 799 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: the last ten years that the average points per game 800 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: for playoff teams is twenty four points per game. That's 801 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: the average. Obviously, there's exceptions every year. You know, the 802 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: team that's got some lockdown defense and can win games 803 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: seventeen to ten or something might be an exception. Three. Yeah, 804 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: right on the whole though, you need an offense that 805 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: usually scores about twenty four points per game to make 806 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: it to the playoffs. The Bills were one of those exceptions. 807 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: Last year. They were They did not average twenty four 808 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: points a game, but they had the number two defense 809 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: in football and I think the number two scoring defense. 810 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: So that's the reason the Bills made the playoffs last year. 811 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: But if you're scoring twenty four a game, you're in 812 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: good shape to make it. And yeah, if you get 813 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: to the mid twenties, especially with the Bill schedule this year, 814 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: I would envision, yes, they would be in the playoffs. Yeah, 815 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: they'll go deep if that happens. I think given the 816 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: fact they're playing you know, Seattle defense to the San 817 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: Francisco defense, they've got some good ones out there, so 818 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: that'll be fun to watch. Anything else grab you from 819 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet than anybody else said, Well, I was 820 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: waiting to see how long it would take for this, 821 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: knowing that many people want it to happen. I was 822 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: expecting this to be a popular vote, and it has 823 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: been Alan and the deep ball accuracy. And Jack's in 824 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: this group, and he says, yeah, it's Alan and the 825 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: deep ball completion percentage. As a rookie, he struggled on 826 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: short intermediate passes. He worked on it before last year, 827 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: and he improved in year two. That is true. This 828 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: spring he worked with Jordan Palmer on his deep ball act. 829 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: It should improve and adding a weapon like digs all 830 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: the wide receiver production will improve in total. So hard 831 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: to disagree with anything he said there. I think the 832 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: key here, Steve, is to what degree does it increase? 833 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: Because his rookie year, his deep ball completion percentage was 834 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: twenty six point two percent, and then last year it 835 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: dipped down to twenty five percent. I was actually surprised 836 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: that it only went down a little more than one percent. 837 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: I thought the drop might be steeper than that, but 838 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: that's what the numbers say. It felt like it was 839 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: zero percent. I know, I know. I think the reason 840 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: it felt considerably less was because I don't think he 841 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: attempted as many last year as he did in twenty eighteen, 842 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: when that was really, in many cases the only way 843 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: they could get yardage in chunks. If you remember, in 844 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, the run game went nowhere, The line was 845 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: a mess, and the only way to get a big 846 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: play was to chuck it down the field. So I 847 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: would venture to guess that he threw it deep down 848 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: field more twenty eighteen, but really didn't hit on too 849 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: many more of those type passes as he did in 850 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So and and Steve, we're not looking for 851 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: a gigantic jump in success rate with deep ball completion percentage. 852 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: You only need to move it up two or three percent, 853 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: And that's the difference between getting those one or two 854 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: extra big plays per game that can sometimes mean the 855 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: difference between winning and losing. Yeah, you know, you've said 856 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: for a long time, like four or five big plays 857 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: usually swing a game, and so you can hit one 858 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: or Yeah. So if he can hit just one or 859 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: two more a game, I mean this offense could really 860 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: take off and they could be scoring points the way 861 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: Nick t wants him too. He wants it to skyrocket. 862 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: One point one per game is all you need one. 863 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 1: That's it, and that would be an enormous jump in 864 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: their production, their point totals, everything, it helps everything. That's it. 865 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: We got. Let's go one more on the tweet sheet. 866 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: And the tweet sheet, incidentally, is brought to you by 867 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment movers of the Buffalo 868 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: Bills from Brian, he says it's a tough bull, but 869 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: he answered sacks not only for this offseason editions Oliver's progression, 870 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: but by how the low the bar was, relatively speaking, 871 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: And he's saying it they weren't that good last year 872 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: and that's why they'll get a bigger boost this year 873 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: because they have nowhere to go but up. Actually, it's 874 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: the center. The black of the matter is they were 875 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: twelfth in the league last year in sacks. Yeah, they 876 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: weren't terrible. I mean their top half of the league. 877 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that if you look over the 878 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,439 Speaker 1: course of history of McDermott's defenses, they very often are 879 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: in the top ten, sometimes even top three in the 880 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: league in sacks and in takeaways. And I think the 881 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 1: first year here they were top ten or top half 882 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 1: of the league anyway and take ways. But the sacks 883 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: just haven't manifested themselves with the same degree of success 884 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,959 Speaker 1: that he had in Carolina. I think this year they're 885 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: probably best equipped to mirror what the history of McDermott's 886 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: defenses have been from a pass rush production standpoint, So 887 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: hopefully it comes to fruition. I agree. I think I 888 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: think it's it's a higher percentage of guys whom are 889 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: built for it. I think they got more talent this year. 890 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 1: I think they're deeper in talent, and I think they've 891 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: got guys that are, uh, it's a great mix of 892 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: veteran guys who have been productive with young guys who 893 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: are or are into, you know, into their development, you know. 894 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: I think I think it's it's gonna be a fun 895 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: year for that group if they can indeed get in 896 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: the building and get it going. Also, last one from 897 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: this tweet sheet, before we Go, brought to you by 898 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: Corgan's I picked He picked the Running Game. Derek picked 899 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: the Running Game. Although one area I hope we make 900 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: the biggest jump is in the win column. Go bills. Yeah, 901 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that play here. Yeah, the 902 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: run game production looks like it could work because of 903 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: they got two running backs or three running backs, guys 904 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: that you you know, t J. Yelden, Zack Moss and 905 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: of course Devin Singletary, three guys you think they actually 906 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: carry the rock, and they'll find a role for t 907 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: J Yelden as well. But also in that you talk 908 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: about as the wind column, Brownie, h their schedule isn't 909 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: what it was last year. It's gonna be a tougher 910 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: to win games this year than it was last year, 911 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: even though they are tap more talented and a little 912 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: bit deeper run around your roster. This is a tough schedule. Yeah, 913 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: And even going back to the previous comment about the sacks, 914 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: they've got some mobile quarterbacks they're gonna be dealing with 915 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: this year too, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray. I mean guys 916 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: that extend plays, make plays off script. So the pass 917 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: rush might be better, But I don't know if we're 918 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: gonna see this gigantic jump in the sack total just 919 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: be by virtue of the mobile quarterbacks that they're playing 920 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: and the fact that there's more of them in the 921 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 1: league now, right and you can't get around to Josh 922 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: Allen falls into that category as well, and not while 923 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: while that does knock your sack total down. When you 924 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: got guys running around back there and throwing the football 925 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: away making good decisions, it does mean well, it does 926 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,959 Speaker 1: play a little bit to me into the Buffalo Bill's strength, 927 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: and that's their secondary. Their secondary is going to be 928 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: able to hold up again better than most secondaries will 929 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: because of the plays of their safety and because of 930 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: the and because of the quality corners they have. If 931 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: if any of those guys opposite Tredavious White can play 932 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: consistently and better and scare some people on the offensive 933 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,280 Speaker 1: side of the ball, this defense takes a step forward 934 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: from where it was last year and was a top 935 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: three defense last year. Yeah, no question, no question about it. 936 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: Now see Tasker Chris Brown. We're here till three o'clock. 937 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: Coming back at two o'clock, We've got Lindsay Jones coming over. 938 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: She's a writer for the NFL for the Athletic she's 939 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: also a member the Pro Football Writers of American. Coming 940 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: up right after the break, running backs, the state of 941 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 1: the Bills. Who's gonna make the team, and what are 942 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts on how productive there will be they will 943 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: be Steve Tasker Chris Brown, one Bills Live presenter by 944 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: Klyda Health and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh good 945 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: Time Old by Steve Lasker. That's times Times down. We're 946 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:47,919 Speaker 1: time welcome back to shoot one of those lives. Steve 947 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 1: Tasker along with Chris Brown We're here till three o'clock. 948 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: We've been talking about what's going on in the country 949 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: and the and the statements by the National Football League. 950 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: We've been talking also about the Buffalo Bills and which 951 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: part of that team will take a big run leap 952 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: forward in twenty twenty. Do you think it's the run 953 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: game production. Do you think it's defensive sacks. Do you 954 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 1: think is deep ball accuracy by Josh Allen? Which one 955 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: of those three will take a big leap in twenty 956 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: twenty or is it something else? You can give us 957 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: a call at eight oh three, five fifty. We're also 958 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: now between now and the bottom of the hour, Brownie, 959 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at the running backsman's state of the 960 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 1: take our look at the state of the Bills, focusing 961 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 1: on the running back room, and it starts, of course 962 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: with Devin Singletary and then third round draft pick from 963 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 1: this year is Zach Moss. You think those two guys 964 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: are gonna be the the lead dogs in this pack 965 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: of guys that are gonna be running down the field. Also, 966 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: t J. Yelden is still there. I think he's the 967 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: veteran presence that Sean McDermott has said repeatedly he wants 968 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: a veteran guy in each room. Christian Wade is in 969 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: that room as well. Who's the international pathware play who 970 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: came over from the rugby the rug sport of rugby, 971 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: and took up the game last year. He's a little 972 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: bit older, but he is as a veteran professional athlete 973 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: who's still trying to learn the basics of a new sport. 974 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 1: Antonio Williams, who's an undrafted free agent in twenty twenty 975 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: out of North Carolina. Then you have the fullbacks Pat DeMarco, 976 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: he's entering the final year of a four year deal 977 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: that he's signed. And then Reggie gilliam a fullback slash 978 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: tight end. He's out of Toledo. He's an undrafted free 979 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: agent this season as well. So your thoughts, Brownie at 980 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: the top of your head. It all starts with Devin 981 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 1: Singletary and Zach Moss. But with Devin Singletary and Zach Moss. 982 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: It's it's always been my everybody says it's Devin Singletary 983 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: than Zach mass Help. I don't know that, given the 984 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 1: recent history of this coaching staff and the philosophy they've 985 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: displayed on a number of occasions at different positions, that 986 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary can be pencil and now certainly he may 987 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: take the number one reps when they get out on 988 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: the field, but I think, more so than anything, it's 989 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a place where whoever gets the best yards 990 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: is gonna get the job, Whoever is playing best that 991 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: day is going to get the carries. And I don't 992 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: because I don't think, I mean, you're gonna rotate those 993 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: guys anyway. And I think there's a real chance that 994 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: Zach marsh Moss could if he plays well, overshadowed Devin Singletary. Yeah, 995 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: I believe in the hot hand philosophy to a certain extent. 996 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: I do believe that Singletary earning some stripes last year, 997 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 1: in the minds of the coaching staff, you could probably 998 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: count on one hand in terms of how many mental 999 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: errors he had on the field as a rookie last year, 1000 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: which I think is saying something because Brian Dable's offense 1001 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: is not an easy one. It changes week to week 1002 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: pretty significantly, and the running back has a lot of responsibilities. 1003 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: I also think that as much as I believe the 1004 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: hot hand philosophy would carry the day in a given game, 1005 00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: I think cumulatively this is is a coaching staff that 1006 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: believes you need more than one guy to get the 1007 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: job done, and they do not want to wear one 1008 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: guy out in particular. So you say, well, how do 1009 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: you know that? All you have to do is look 1010 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: at the first year McDermott was here, or even twenty eighteen, 1011 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: I believe, and I'll go back and look when I 1012 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: have the time. I forgot to do it during the 1013 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: break because this was a point I wanted to make. 1014 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: When Lashawn McCoy was clearly the lead back here in 1015 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and even for most of twenty eighteen when 1016 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line couldn't do much of anything, he averaged 1017 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: eighteen touches a game that's carries in receptions. I don't 1018 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: know if Singletary gets to that number. I think he 1019 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 1: might get to fifteen sixteen perhaps, but I think there's 1020 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: going to be a concerted effort to get what they 1021 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: want out of him, but to pace him through the 1022 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 1: course of the season especial actually if they believe he 1023 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 1: is their number one guy. Now, the good news is, 1024 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: I think Zach Moss can serve as a capable compliment 1025 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: to him even as a rookie. And I know when 1026 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: I was on the show with you a couple of 1027 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I talked to you about this because I 1028 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: did this big feature story on Zach and talked to 1029 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: his college coach at Utah. He's very advanced in the 1030 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: cerebral part of the game and the responsibilities, the protections, 1031 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: the full concept of plays, and so his running backs coach, 1032 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: and I know he's biased, but he's not the only 1033 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: person who I've spoken to who believes that Zach will 1034 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: be able to hit the ground running because of his 1035 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,919 Speaker 1: high football IQ. And then you roll in his skill 1036 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: set and I think it should all blend together pretty quickly. Now, 1037 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: is he going to be negatively impacted by lack of 1038 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: reps on the field? Most certainly, most certainly by not 1039 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: getting any ota reps, no mini camp reps, and who 1040 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: knows what training camp holds, right, But if it takes 1041 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: two or three weeks into the season before he really 1042 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: gets churning, and they have You've got t J. Eldon 1043 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: as your fallback option, which is not a bad option 1044 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: to have. So I think they're deep enough where, even 1045 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: if they're rookie, that they're clearly counting on, at least 1046 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: as I see it, that they'll be able to kind 1047 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: of stem the tide until he's fully up to speed, 1048 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: perhaps if he gets off to a little bit of 1049 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: a slow start and the coaches want to work with 1050 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: him an extra couple of weeks before they fully trust 1051 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: him and throw him in the deep end to the pool. Right. 1052 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be what we saw last year, 1053 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: a lot of what we've seen it in another players too, 1054 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: most notably At Oliver last year, who was fully healthy 1055 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: for the entire season. They did it. They came in, 1056 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: he had to work his way on the field, He 1057 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: had to earn his way into the rotation. He got rotation, 1058 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: he got some plays, made some plays, and then by 1059 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: the end of the season he was one of those 1060 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: guys that he was going to be on the field 1061 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: and pretty critical situation. Same thing with Devin Singletary last 1062 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: year with Frank Gore. Now, Gore started out the season, 1063 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: did it, But yeah it Devin Singletary was derailed by 1064 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: a four week injury. Right. He was on the field 1065 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: those first two weeks against the Jets and Giant. He 1066 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: was actually he played really well in that Giants game 1067 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 1: right before he got hurt at the end in the 1068 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Right, So that means we don't know exactly 1069 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: whether they would have been the hot hand kind of thing, 1070 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And Steve, you can agree 1071 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: with this or a few is, but I think running 1072 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: back is one of the easier positions in pro football 1073 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: in which to make an early impact as a player. Oh, absolutely, 1074 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: would you agree with that? Yeah? Absolutely, because you know 1075 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: you still got five offensive linemen. You run to daylight, right, 1076 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: you run this direction or this direction. If you run 1077 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 1: in one direction, if it's a type of offense, you 1078 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: just look for some daylight. Another option, you wait for 1079 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: the guard to come around and cut back inside him 1080 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: or set his block up, and then you know, stick 1081 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: your foot in the ground, um or you go out 1082 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: and you run around and catch the ball. It's it's 1083 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: very instinctual. Yeah, it's more of a natural position. That's 1084 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of others, which is why Christian Wade may 1085 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,479 Speaker 1: have a chance, you know, in a in a game 1086 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: like that, in a position like that, because it does 1087 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: translate to rugby pretty well. I said that, you know 1088 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: when he first got on the scene last year, right, 1089 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: And you're right. Plus not for nothing, Brownie, but it's 1090 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: a young Even in a sport that's played by young men, 1091 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,959 Speaker 1: professional football, running back is played by really young guys 1092 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: because they don't last very long. You're in your prime 1093 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: or you're done, you know what I'm saying. So I 1094 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: think you're either gonna come in and make a splash 1095 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: and started like Devin Singletary did last year. He was 1096 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: the lead dog by the end of the Sea rookie season, 1097 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: and you think he might take a step forward, Well, 1098 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: you've got a guy right behind him is in the 1099 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: exact same position, and both those guys are gonna have 1100 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: a chance to contribute. And I think one of the 1101 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: things as well, I don't know that Devin Singletary and 1102 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Frank Gore, while they may have looked similar, I don't 1103 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: think they had kind of the same skill set. I 1104 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 1: think Devin Singletary is a little better in the passing game. 1105 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: He's not so much of a downhill runner. He's a 1106 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: shift to elusive. Ye right, he's more elusive. I don't 1107 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: know that Zach Moss is vastly different than Frank Gore 1108 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: or Devin Singletary, but you could tell Frank Gore had 1109 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: no place to run last year at the end of 1110 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: the season. Whether n people blamed him, but I think 1111 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 1: a lot of it is sometimes you get running backs 1112 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: back their offensive lineman think, Okay, we're doing a pretty 1113 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: good job because Devin makes this play work, and Frank 1114 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Gore was tackled for a two year old lost kind 1115 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: of thing. Fortunately, and I respect Frank Gore as much 1116 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: as anybody with what he's with the career he's been 1117 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,959 Speaker 1: able to put together. But in my estimation, his legs 1118 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: failed him the second half of the year. I just 1119 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 1: think there was no explosion. There was no pop or 1120 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: suddenness to his running to the point where he could 1121 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: not successfully run outside off tackle anymore. It had to 1122 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: be a run that was between the tackles or he 1123 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: was not getting anything. And while and I know the 1124 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: Jets signed him and people are like, oh, Frank Gore 1125 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: goes to the Jets, he may help them. In that 1126 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: first month of the season, but I think his legs 1127 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: are going to go on him rather quickly again unless 1128 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: he has used very sparingly, where he's only getting five 1129 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: to six touches a game and is used as a 1130 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: fail save in case somebody gets hurt and he carries 1131 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 1: you for a couple of weeks. Because that's essentially what 1132 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: he did here for Buffalo last year, because Singletary got 1133 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: hurt as you mentioned, and he was out for four weeks, 1134 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: and Frank had to carry the load for a month, 1135 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: and they won some games won and he was effective, 1136 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: but I think that heavy workload for that one month 1137 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: left him with a lot less gas in the tank 1138 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: for the second half of the season, and you could 1139 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: really see his legs go on him in the second 1140 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: half of the year. It was evident to me, and 1141 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 1: so I think it convinced them that they had to 1142 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: move on, they had to get younger at the position. 1143 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of film of Zach Moss going 1144 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:23,439 Speaker 1: into the draft, probably six games, and I can say, 1145 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: in comparing him to Frank Gore, I think he's like 1146 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: Frank in the respect of high football. IQ really good 1147 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: in pass protection, and I think what he has that 1148 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Frank does not at least at his advanced age, is 1149 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: a little more wiggle than you would expect from a 1150 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: two hundred thirty pound two hundred and twenty five pound 1151 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: running back. He can make the safety miss in a 1152 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 1: one on one situation, and I don't think a lot 1153 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: of safety is already anticipating that from a back his size. 1154 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: But he can do that. Not all the time, but 1155 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: he can shift his weight at full speed, you know, 1156 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 1: laterally to at least avoid a tackle, and then if 1157 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: it's just an arm tackle, at that point, you're not 1158 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: stopping him. And that's how he wins. He may not 1159 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: make a guy with at air like Singletary will, but 1160 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 1: he will make a guy miss a true form tackle, 1161 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: only get an arm on him, and he's strong enough 1162 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: to pull through those and get extra yardage. Steve Tasker 1163 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: and Chris Brown here one Bills like. We're talking about 1164 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: the running backs the Buffalo Bills. And you know who's 1165 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: gonna make the team. What the roster looks like. We've 1166 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: talked about Devin Singletary, Zach Moss, you mentioned t J. Yelden. 1167 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 1: What about these guys that down the roster Christian Wade 1168 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 1: for one, and also the fullbacks Pat DeMarco Reggie Gilliam 1169 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: Do you think there's a real battle between DeMarco and Gilliam? 1170 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean if they get If Pat DeMarco is not 1171 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 1: in that room, the oldest guy in the room is 1172 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: t J. Yelden, And I don't know that that sets 1173 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: it up exactly the way Sean Dermott would want it. 1174 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean Pat DeMarco has you know, is 1175 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: absolutely written in stone that he's on there. They wouldn't 1176 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: have brought Reggie Gilliam in. But how do you see 1177 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the bottom of that roster, the running back to position 1178 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: shaking out, how many guys they keep and who makes it? 1179 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Do you think? Yeah? I mean Pat DeMarco is a 1180 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: glue guy. He may not be on the field a 1181 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 1: ton on offense, but he does play a role on 1182 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: special teams and he's a glue guy. He's he's a 1183 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:33,479 Speaker 1: leadership council guy. He can rally that room together. He's 1184 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: good back up for a young leader like Josh Allen. 1185 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,919 Speaker 1: You know, like Josh gets up and says something, Pat 1186 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: DeMarco seconds it, the motion passes, do you know what 1187 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean? So? Yeah, I mean that's that's who he 1188 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: is in that locker room. He is the voice of 1189 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 1: reason when things are going haywire, maybe on a two 1190 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: game stretch where they lose two games in a row. 1191 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 1: He's the calming influence. And I don't think we we 1192 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: need to spell it out for fans either. They've been 1193 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: around coach McDermot long enough to know how much he 1194 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: values that in his locker room. So unless there is 1195 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: a precipitous drop off in playing ability by Pat DeMarco, 1196 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: I think he sees out the end of his contract 1197 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: going into the last year. Now that's not to say 1198 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: that gilliam isn't somebody they keep in the pipeline, maybe 1199 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, Because does Pat DeMarco come back 1200 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: to this roster after this year, I don't know. I 1201 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: think that's a bigger question mark, But as far as 1202 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: this year goes, I would anticipate him being on the roster. 1203 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: And then they bring Taiwan Jones back. Now here's another 1204 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: guy that is a special team's glue guy. I think 1205 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: people may forget because you know, he had the neck 1206 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: injury and the horrible gash to the head when his 1207 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: helmet came off on a kick return play. The last 1208 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: time he was in Buffalo and he had to miss 1209 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 1: the rest of the season as the most wicked head 1210 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: scar I think I've ever seen in my life. Like 1211 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: one of the rivets is somebody's helmet just split his 1212 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 1: scalp wide open. It was terrible. But Taiwan Jones, you know, 1213 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: the Bills in a normal offseason have that Iron Bills competition. 1214 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Who is in the gym the most during the offseason 1215 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: conditioning program, who's winning the most events in the competitive 1216 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: things that they do. He was the iron Man in 1217 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He beat everybody, and he was a special 1218 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Team's captain in twenty eighteen. So this is a guy 1219 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: that they think a lot of and knowing they want 1220 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 1: to push special teams forward. Steve, I think he's a 1221 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: guy that stands a good chance of being on this roster. 1222 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 1: I think he's a lock. But if he farewell gets 1223 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: his choice of you know, let's say two or three 1224 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 1: guys he gets to pick and say I want them 1225 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: on the roster, probably one of them. Yeah, he's probably 1226 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 1: one of them. I agree, And I think when you 1227 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: get down to a Pat DeMarco and Reggie Gilliam and 1228 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam, we did we did tight ends last week, 1229 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: and I think we talked about how you know, Jason 1230 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,040 Speaker 1: Krum is in kind of a wide receiver converted a 1231 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: tight end, so he's the wide receiver part of it, 1232 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: and Lee Smith is the offensive lineman part of the 1233 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: tight end equation. You know. And when you talk about 1234 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: skill sets, if Reggie Gilliam can play both fullback and 1235 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: play solid tight and if he has the frame and 1236 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the ability and the athleticism to do it, he might 1237 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 1: be a guy that would give them back a roster 1238 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 1: spot that maybe DeMarco doesn't or maybe one of the 1239 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 1: tight ends do not. So either way he goes. If 1240 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 1: he can play both those positions in a solid way 1241 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 1: and do them well mentally and do exactly what he's 1242 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: supposed to do, plus have the athleticism to pull it 1243 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,799 Speaker 1: off in any role they give him, that's Reggie Gilliam's 1244 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 1: ticket to the NFL if he can do it. Plus 1245 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 1: on top of all of that, he's got to cover kicks. Yeah, 1246 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 1: And then I would say a sleeper player is unquestionably 1247 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: the undrafted kid Antonio Williams, because I watched two or 1248 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 1: three of his games leading up to the draft, because 1249 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 1: I thought he could be like a priority free Asian 1250 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 1: type or a late round pick. And he's got something Steve. 1251 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: I mean, he's five eleven, two fifteen, he's put together well, 1252 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: has four or five five speed. He was a transfer 1253 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,600 Speaker 1: from Ohio State before going to North Carolina where he 1254 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 1: played his last two years. Square build up high, but 1255 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: he's got some shake to his game, and I think 1256 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 1: he's pretty smooth as a receiver out of the backfield. 1257 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 1: So athletically, I think he fits the bill. Now it's 1258 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: a situation of, you know, is he a guy that 1259 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: can master everything on the mental side of the game, 1260 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, to the degree of a Zach Moss or 1261 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: another young player like him. And if he can, you know, 1262 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: I think he gives himself a shot ideally, you know, truthfully, 1263 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I probably see him as a practice squad option. But 1264 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,839 Speaker 1: he because he only played in rotational duty at North Carolina. 1265 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: He wasn't even a full time starter there. But he 1266 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 1: averaged five point nine yards to carry and had some 1267 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: long touched sounds, breaks tackles can shake people. He's definitely 1268 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 1: got the athletic skill set to play the position at 1269 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: this level. It's it's a matter of how fast can 1270 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 1: he come along and prove he belongs all right. Last 1271 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 1: one I got to ask you about is Christian Wade. 1272 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Is there a scenario by which you see him making 1273 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: this squad. I mean, he's the guy that came in, 1274 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: and I don't know that he could have done any 1275 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 1: more than he did last year when he got into 1276 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 1: the preseason games. I mean the guy was scoring touched 1277 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,919 Speaker 1: in almost scoring touchdowns every time he touched the football. 1278 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know whether he was good as good in 1279 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: past protection. I couldn't speak to what other assignments he 1280 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: was supposed to do in these games, and he was 1281 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 1: only in for a handful of plays in the entire preseason. 1282 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: It was pretty clear from that they didn't expect him 1283 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: to make it. There was kind of let him hang 1284 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: out for a year, stay on the roster, and bring 1285 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 1: him back this year to see if he can do better. 1286 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 1: What's it gonna take? You think, is it gonna take 1287 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: somebody else faltering injuries or is he get really gonna 1288 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: have a shot at playing well enough to make the squad. Well, 1289 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, I think if you had to make 1290 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,880 Speaker 1: an argument as to which players are hurt most by 1291 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: this pandemic, Christian waves at the top of the list. 1292 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 1: That guy needs reps on the field, maybe more than 1293 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 1: anyone on the entire roster, just by virtue of his 1294 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 1: lack of experience playing this game. So now the poor 1295 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 1: guy's in a situation where he hasn't been on a 1296 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 1: field with ten teammates and eleven opponents since January. So, 1297 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a colossal loss of time for 1298 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: a man who's only played competitive football for the better 1299 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: part of a year and a half. So I think 1300 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,640 Speaker 1: he's sorely hurt by that. And you know, he's an 1301 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 1: unassuming guy. Everybody in the locker room loves him. He's 1302 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 1: got a fantastic disposition in terms of learning this game 1303 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 1: and wanting to be successful. But man, this pandemic, I 1304 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: don't know if it's stacked the deck against any other 1305 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: player more than Christian Wade because he needs the physical 1306 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,560 Speaker 1: reps on the field to get better at what he 1307 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 1: wants to improve a chiefly, which is past protection. Yeah, 1308 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 1: and the interesting thing about that is that all of 1309 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, he finds himself on a roster that a 1310 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 1: veteran NFL player has a hard time making, you know, 1311 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a roster that's really difficult to make. 1312 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: I've said it a thousand times. When the Buffalo Bills 1313 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 1: back got into nineteen eighty nine, in nineteen ninety, all 1314 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, they're releasing during training camp 1315 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,599 Speaker 1: guys that went on to have really quality NFL careers 1316 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: to other in other teams, out of other teams. They 1317 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 1: it was just too talented of a roster for a 1318 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: lot of guys to make at certain positions, and you 1319 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 1: say goodbye to a lot of them. And I think 1320 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: Christian Wade is sitting here looking at the Bills rosters thinking, Man, 1321 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 1: they got stars in the right spots, and they got 1322 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,840 Speaker 1: depth around them, and they got you know, they got 1323 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: really talented players at every starting position. That's a hard 1324 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: roster to break into, particularly when you're you're trying to 1325 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: just get into a new You know that they have 1326 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,679 Speaker 1: so many things, many more things to consider when they're 1327 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: looking at your resume as compared to somebody else's. Yeah, 1328 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: there's athletic skill talent there to play at this level. 1329 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 1: I think sure everybody can see that, But man, it's 1330 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 1: that mental side that's that's really gonna that's really gonna 1331 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 1: get him and really make it tough for him, especially 1332 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 1: with the pandemic keeping everybody including him off the field 1333 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 1: for valuable practice reps, which is what he needs more 1334 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 1: than anything. Steve Tasker and Chris Brown here on One 1335 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. We've got Lindsay Jones coming up later in 1336 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 1: the show. She's a writer for the Athletics. She's also 1337 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: a member of the Pro Football Writers of America. Later on, 1338 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 1: we've got what's for lunch. We've got NFL True Falls, 1339 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: So come on back. We'll be right back One Bill's 1340 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalidah Health And this is Buffalo Bills 1341 01:13:54,240 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 1: Radio walking back to One of Bills Live. Stee Jasker 1342 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown. We just finished up talking about 1343 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,920 Speaker 1: the running back position for the Buffalo Bills headed into 1344 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,440 Speaker 1: the season. You know, we're just we're full of conjecture 1345 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: here and there's always guys and we know this too, 1346 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,680 Speaker 1: your root for Everybody picks their favorite guy that's a 1347 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,600 Speaker 1: long shot to make the team. Hopefully he does. I 1348 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 1: think Christian Wade has won the hearts of a lot 1349 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 1: of Bills fans with the way he played in the 1350 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 1: preseason last year, with the touchdowns that he ran for, 1351 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 1: with the story that he brings with him of being 1352 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,560 Speaker 1: a really top notch, world class rugby player, and he 1353 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 1: said decided he wanted the challenge of coming over and 1354 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: trying to play in the National Football League. And I 1355 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: think it's ain. It tells a lot of people about 1356 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 1: that it's not just about being a great athlete at 1357 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: this level, and certainly at the highest level, you would 1358 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 1: expect that you have to have some experience. But I 1359 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,000 Speaker 1: think it's never been more evident than that with when 1360 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about what's going on with Christian Wade, Well, 1361 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 1: it's it's hard not to admire the risk he was 1362 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 1: willing to take because he's not He's not the guy 1363 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: was a successful professional rugby player, I mean very successful, 1364 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:20,879 Speaker 1: and this opportunity comes along. He's never played competitive football 1365 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: before and he's going to try it at the highest 1366 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,600 Speaker 1: level that exists in the world and try to be 1367 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 1: successful at that. I mean, I admire it, but man, 1368 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,560 Speaker 1: it is it is a risky decision, and he was 1369 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: willing to take that risk. So I give him credit 1370 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I do too, and I and it's 1371 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: it's not over yet. I mean he's still uh you know, 1372 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 1: he was around the locker room, and I think it really, 1373 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: I've got to think that it really helped him last year, 1374 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 1: being on the practice squad, in there every day, watching 1375 01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: these guys in the meetings all that. So I'm you 1376 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 1: gotta tip your hat to him having the security of 1377 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 1: being a professional rugby player in another sport and then 1378 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 1: coming over and wanting to give it another try in 1379 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 1: this sport. I think it speaks volumes about, you know, 1380 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 1: the guy wanting a challenge and having the courage to 1381 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,439 Speaker 1: come over to a different country and do it. Like 1382 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about it. I I tip my 1383 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 1: hat to the guy, whether it works out for him 1384 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: or not, you know, brownie, Yeah, no question. All right, 1385 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 1: you're ready for lunch. Let's do let's do what's for lunch? 1386 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: I already ate lunch, but I'll do our version of 1387 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 1: what's right. Here we go, what's for lunch? This is 1388 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 1: where we're gonna pick a cup. We'll give you a 1389 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,680 Speaker 1: couple of choices, and we'll let you decide what you 1390 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 1: would like and what you would leave on them, and 1391 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 1: you call him and and call him b as it were. 1392 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, what's for lunch? Here's the 1393 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 1: who has the better triplet? Set of triplets? In the 1394 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 1: National Football but triplet means quarterback, running back, wide receivers. 1395 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 1: What they usually go as who has the better one 1396 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: between these two teams? Is that the Baltimore Ravens with 1397 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson mark Ingram and Andrews. And I can't think 1398 01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: of Andrews the wide receiver's last first mark Mark Andrews. 1399 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: Or is it the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott's, Zeke Elliott 1400 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,719 Speaker 1: or Mary Cooper. Who has the better triplet? The Ravens 1401 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,480 Speaker 1: or the Cowboys? Pretty good question. I hate the Cowboys, 1402 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 1: but it's probably the Cowboys. Elliott is a better back 1403 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:20,919 Speaker 1: than Ingram Cooper's Probably you'd probably take Cooper over Andrews, 1404 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: I think so. And Prescott's close enough to Jackson, and 1405 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 1: it's probably a more diverse passer than Jackson. Yeah, Prescott 1406 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 1: can throw it a lot better. He's more effective in 1407 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 1: the passing game than than Lamar Jackson, So I would 1408 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 1: I would probably take the Cowboys off the menu there, 1409 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I would too. That doesn't mean I think you know 1410 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are a better football team than the Ravens. 1411 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't um. And it doesn't even mean that I 1412 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott is a good overall as Lamar Jackson. 1413 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,599 Speaker 1: I think that's a question. The guy's MVP, Lamar Jackson, right, 1414 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,440 Speaker 1: But I think long term wise, I think Dak Prescott's 1415 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 1: a better option as well. Yeah, like, and I'm with you. 1416 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I've got my brains beat in by 1417 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in two Super Bowl so I got no 1418 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,600 Speaker 1: love loss there, but I can I think it is 1419 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as well. Okay, Menu item number two. Kyle 1420 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,759 Speaker 1: Allen or Dwayne Haskins will be the Redskins starting quarterback 1421 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,639 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Kyle Allen or Dwayne Haskins. Kyle Allen 1422 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 1: came over from Carolan. Carolina Panthers had a few games 1423 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 1: last year in the absence of Cam Newton. Yeah. I 1424 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,639 Speaker 1: think the reason this is up for debate is because 1425 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 1: there's the assumption that Allen knows the offense already, knowing 1426 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 1: that Ron Rivera went from Carolina to Washington, and I 1427 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 1: believe he brought the people with him on the offensive 1428 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I think Haskins it was starting 1429 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: to click for him last year and this is a 1430 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 1: new system that he's got to immerse himself in, and 1431 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: the reps are not there as he said in the 1432 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 1: last segment for Christian Wayne, just about everybody else in 1433 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, the reps are not there. Could that hurt 1434 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Haskins to the point where Alan, who knows the scheme, 1435 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,680 Speaker 1: will get on the field early. I would still say no, 1436 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 1: because I think we all know that Daniel Snyder loves 1437 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 1: himself some Dwayne Haskins. I just can't see him getting 1438 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 1: bounced out of the top spot off the depth chart 1439 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 1: just for that reason. I mean, unless he completely falls 1440 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 1: on his face in training camp in the preseason, I 1441 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 1: think Haskins will be the starters. So I will take 1442 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 1: Haskins there. I will too, And I think it's because 1443 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: of the second point you made. Now, Dwayne Haskins has 1444 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,840 Speaker 1: got work to do, no question, new system and it's 1445 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: one of the and we talked about it all the 1446 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,679 Speaker 1: time with Josh Allen. Cohesion and having the same system 1447 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,679 Speaker 1: year to year is an enormous boost for a young quarterback, 1448 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: and Haskins is you know, he may as well be 1449 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 1: younger than y Alan. Kyle Allen, on the other hand, 1450 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,759 Speaker 1: not only had knows the offense, he had game reps. 1451 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,639 Speaker 1: He ran the offense on the field for the Carolina 1452 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 1: Panthers a year ago. So I think that would speak 1453 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 1: football people would say, well, Haskins would probably I mean, 1454 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen would probably be maybe a better option. But 1455 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 1: that's not how it works. You know, when the owner 1456 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,680 Speaker 1: says the guy wants to play, that's the guy he 1457 01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: wants to play. In Dwayne Haskins is accepted as being 1458 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: maybe maybe the more gifted thrower, let alone the guy 1459 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 1: who hasn't had as many reps, but not in this 1460 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,559 Speaker 1: offense anyway. So I'm with you. I think Dwayne Haskins 1461 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 1: will be the guy that starts for the Redskins in 1462 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty next Tide. I'm on the menu more underrated 1463 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 1: free agent move Bears signing Nick Foles or the Browns 1464 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 1: signing case Keenman case Keenan which is more underrated? Which means, 1465 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,479 Speaker 1: I guess which one of you could think? Which one 1466 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 1: of those guys do you think is going to play better? Well, 1467 01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 1: I think Nick Foles has a better chance of playing. 1468 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean it's Baker Mayfield's team in Cleveland. I think 1469 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: he'd have to get hurt for Keenham to even get 1470 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 1: on the field. Uh, Foles has a chance to win 1471 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 1: the starting job so I think it's a no brainer here. 1472 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, yeah, Nick Foles is gonna play 1473 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,680 Speaker 1: for the Bears. Mit Trubisky can't play better than Nick 1474 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,920 Speaker 1: Foles will. And that's that's why Nick Foles He's gonna 1475 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: start for the Chicago Bears, and they're gonna be a 1476 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 1: much better football team, much better offensive football team because 1477 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 1: of it. Case Keenum won't take a snap. In my opinion, 1478 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,320 Speaker 1: he won't take a snap. You got Mayfield getting through 1479 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,719 Speaker 1: the whole year, Okay, yeah, Okay? Who will sign first? 1480 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 1: Cam Newton or Antonio Brown? Yeah? I mean what makes 1481 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,200 Speaker 1: this a tricky decision because you would you hear the 1482 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: two names and you're like, oh, Cam Newton. Um. But 1483 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 1: I think his health makes this a bigger question mark. 1484 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 1: So if he can demonstrate an ability to throw down 1485 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 1: field whenever he's allowed to have a physical done on 1486 01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 1: him by a team physician, by a team's own physician, 1487 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,920 Speaker 1: I should say, and can prove he can throw to 1488 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: the far hash, you know, on a fifteen yard out. 1489 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 1: I think it's Cam Newton. I don't think Antonio Brown's 1490 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 1: radioactivity has worn off yet after how horrifically bad last 1491 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,800 Speaker 1: year it went for him, so I would say Cam, 1492 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,040 Speaker 1: I would say Cam as well, but it comes down 1493 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 1: to me this Brownie does Cam Newton, is he able 1494 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,920 Speaker 1: to get physicals taken by whatever team might give him 1495 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 1: a physical before Antonio Brown's legal troubles are settled and 1496 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 1: they settle on how many games he's going to be suspended, 1497 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:42,840 Speaker 1: And I think Cam Newton's time slot will will run 1498 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,679 Speaker 1: out first. He'll be able to get into a building 1499 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 1: if they want to look at him and give him 1500 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: a physical. They'll be able to, in fact give him 1501 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 1: a workout if they want. I think that'll happen before 1502 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown does, and I think that's why Cam Newton 1503 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 1: will get signed first. That's what's for lunch, Steve Tasker, 1504 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 1: Chris Brown. We got coming up at the top of 1505 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,439 Speaker 1: the hour. Lindsay Jones, NFL writer for the Athletics. Coming up. 1506 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 1: We also have NFL True False later in the show. 1507 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Khalid to Health 1508 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:13,200 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one 1509 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 1: of those live teams cast along Chris Brown. Lots going 1510 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,840 Speaker 1: on today. We've we talked about there's memos coming out 1511 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,600 Speaker 1: from the National Football League and about what it's going 1512 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,640 Speaker 1: to look like when players actually do come back to 1513 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,960 Speaker 1: the facilities. They're starting to get ramped up to make 1514 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:32,240 Speaker 1: it happen, Brownie. But the way it sounds, we're not 1515 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna know what, We're not gonna have seen anything like it, 1516 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,759 Speaker 1: with all the social distancing that they're going to require 1517 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: these teams to have in place. Yeah, and we're probably 1518 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Eric Wood about that tomorrow because he's 1519 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,600 Speaker 1: going to be on the show at two, Because I 1520 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 1: want the player perspective on this, and knowing he had 1521 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 1: he has, you know, recently been in these kinds of 1522 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 1: offseason situations or practice situations or training camp situations. Now 1523 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 1: with all of these protocols coming down the pike to 1524 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,519 Speaker 1: be adhered to, I want to know from him how 1525 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,040 Speaker 1: much is it gonna bog things down? How much more 1526 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:13,880 Speaker 1: inefficient are teams going to be? And how is it 1527 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,600 Speaker 1: all going to be policed for upwards of you know, 1528 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 1: ninety players and staff. And that's just the football side. 1529 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, you still got the way the administrative side 1530 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: of the building to be concerned about two right. I 1531 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 1: think it'll the way it'll be policed, Brownie, as they'll trust. 1532 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I think it would occur to me, and this is 1533 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:35,800 Speaker 1: kind of the weird to have me say it in 1534 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 1: this day and age and this white I think they 1535 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 1: would trust that somebody's gonna say, hey, we're not doing 1536 01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 1: a good enough job here. You know, um, you gotta 1537 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 1: you know. They would self police it, no question. But 1538 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,160 Speaker 1: they'd also get guys like you know, players, reps or 1539 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,720 Speaker 1: whatever would call you this the league and say, hey, 1540 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: listen the say, for instance, the Buffalo Bills. I mean, 1541 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,000 Speaker 1: they got a guy in every stall there they're we're 1542 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 1: having we're sitting in team meeting room just like nothing 1543 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 1: was going on. Nobody's wearing masks. You know, they'll call 1544 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 1: if they see something that egregious going on, and we'll 1545 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 1: get out in the league will step in. I think 1546 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,639 Speaker 1: the voice out of the locker room will will come 1547 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 1: loud and clear to the league office if if indeed 1548 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: something egregious has happened. Now you know, guys will say, 1549 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 1: well listen, I'm my lockers only five feet from that 1550 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,560 Speaker 1: guy you know or whatever they're You know, they're not 1551 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna be into that. They're gonna be trying to make 1552 01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,680 Speaker 1: the squad, but there's gonna be some guys in that 1553 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 1: room that will say listen, it's my responsibility and we 1554 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 1: got to do a better job in this area or 1555 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 1: that area or whatever. It's gonna be interesting to see, 1556 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,600 Speaker 1: but I think it's all gonna be self policed, and 1557 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,679 Speaker 1: the league will tell the union say, hey, tell your players. 1558 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,840 Speaker 1: If they noticed stuff, they got to report it. Yeah. 1559 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 1: I just think there's just by the looks of all 1560 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 1: these protocols, there's gonna be ten twelve extra steps for 1561 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 1: every player right to be mindful of. And then you know, 1562 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 1: these coaches, through the course this virtual offseason, had to 1563 01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 1: get used to doing zoom meetings for their team instruction 1564 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,439 Speaker 1: and going through playbook and installs and stuff like that. 1565 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 1: And now, based on some of these protocols again which 1566 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,120 Speaker 1: we'll get into in depth on tomorrow's show, they've got 1567 01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 1: to meet outside whenever possible, in an in person setting 1568 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 1: at a proper social distance. Well, you've got a defensive 1569 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,360 Speaker 1: team meeting. I mean you're talking upwards of forty guys 1570 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 1: plus coaches. I mean you need a lot of space. Yeah, 1571 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 1: you're all six feet apart. I mean you may have 1572 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,840 Speaker 1: to use a whole field. That's right, that's right, And 1573 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, not Steve Tasker and Chris Brown here. At 1574 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,200 Speaker 1: the top of the hour, We've got Lindsay Jones for 1575 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 1: the athletics. She's gonna come on and be with us, 1576 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,760 Speaker 1: and she's also a member of the Pro Football Writers 1577 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Tomorrow at two o'clock, Eric Wood's going 1578 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 1: to come on, former Buffalo Bills Center and also current 1579 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,759 Speaker 1: radio analysts and Doug Ferrars coming on to USA today. 1580 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 1: But Brownie, think about it. They got all these protocols, 1581 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to bring these guys in and 1582 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 1: then tell them and show them what they've got to 1583 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,800 Speaker 1: do to be compliant. They're gonna come in and pop 1584 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 1: down front of their locker. Gonna be like college orientation. Yeah, 1585 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,600 Speaker 1: and that's just to come in and get washers and 1586 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,120 Speaker 1: do your job. You know, let alone, how good you 1587 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 1: do your job? You gotta get yeah, clean your cell phone. 1588 01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 1: They gotta all this stuff they're gonna do for these 1589 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,799 Speaker 1: They gonna train them how to even get in the building, 1590 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 1: let alone do their job and make a football team. 1591 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna start from scratch. It's it's gonna 1592 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 1: take some doing. I don't I don't envy the protocol 1593 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,800 Speaker 1: people that are gonna have to put all this in 1594 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 1: place and One Bills Drive, Holy crow. All right, Steve Tasker, 1595 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, we're coming back in the top. Lindsey Jones 1596 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,040 Speaker 1: from the Athletic coming on right after this. This is 1597 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: Kalid to Health presenting One Bills Live. And this is 1598 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh we'd time watch Steve Tasker's Times 1599 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 1: Times Dosto over time. Welcome back to one of Bill's Live. 1600 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 1: We're here until three o'clock. Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. 1601 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 1: We're pleased to be joined right now on the on 1602 01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 1: the phone line by Lindsay Jones. She's a writer for 1603 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 1: the Athletics. She's also a member of the Pro Football 1604 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,280 Speaker 1: Writers of America. Lindsay, Steve Tasker, and Chris Brown up 1605 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,599 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. How's the pandemic 1606 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 1: treating you? Are you okay? Yes? Come here, Okay, we're 1607 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 1: just asking how are how are you doing in the pandemic? 1608 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,400 Speaker 1: Because are you making it through? Okay? You're in your family. 1609 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,800 Speaker 1: We are good. Sorry, all I heard was music for 1610 01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: there for a minute. Um. Yes we're yeah, we're okay. 1611 01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm out here in Denver and yeah we're we're 1612 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 1: all we're all hanging in getting by doing the best 1613 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: we can. I guess I know you've heard about the 1614 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,560 Speaker 1: memos coming out about the players and coaches starting to 1615 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 1: filter back in stage by stage into the NFL facilities 1616 01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,679 Speaker 1: around the league. What do you think that's gonna look 1617 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 1: like when you've got ninety or so young athletes and 1618 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 1: twenty five or so coaches trying to stay socially distanced 1619 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,439 Speaker 1: inside a facility while they're trying to get ready to 1620 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 1: play football with masks and hand sanitizer. And I don't 1621 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 1: know that there's a building big enough to hold that's 1622 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 1: kind of space, do you? And no, I don't. Yeah, 1623 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,160 Speaker 1: I've been pouring over, like line by line of the 1624 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: memos that went out from the league in the PA today. 1625 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually in the process of writing a story about 1626 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,400 Speaker 1: it right now. But but yeah, you're absolutely right that, 1627 01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL has some specific challenges that the 1628 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,760 Speaker 1: other pro sports that are coming back a little bit 1629 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,639 Speaker 1: sooner do not have, just based on the sheer size 1630 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,679 Speaker 1: of their rosters and the size of their coaching staffs, 1631 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 1: and you know, bringing ninety players in to each of 1632 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 1: these buildings in July and August I mean that's these 1633 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,519 Speaker 1: locker rooms are cramped on in a normal situation. So 1634 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, I imagine teams are going through scenarios right 1635 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 1: now that we're figuring. They're trying to figure out if 1636 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 1: they can erect you know, temporary locker room space and 1637 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,160 Speaker 1: tents and stuff in there, you know, out in the 1638 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 1: parking lots, or they have a spare field because yeah, 1639 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they're having to do some things that they've 1640 01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 1: never actually had to do before, you know, and it's 1641 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. You know, these this memo 1642 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 1: today is very specific to team facilities. You know, their 1643 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,680 Speaker 1: their headquarters where they train at um not as much 1644 01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 1: so for game days and what Sundays are going to 1645 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:44,519 Speaker 1: look like. But there's no way to maintain social distancing 1646 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 1: in most NFL locker rooms. Even the newest, swankiest stadiums, 1647 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,400 Speaker 1: the places whose locker rooms have been completely you know, 1648 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,439 Speaker 1: completely brand new, you know, like the stadium in LA 1649 01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,360 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas and Minnesota and Atlanta. Some of these 1650 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,120 Speaker 1: newest stadiums they're not built to accommodate that, let alone 1651 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,720 Speaker 1: a stadium like Buffalo, which has you know, one of 1652 01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:09,040 Speaker 1: the most cramped visitors locker rooms anywhere in the league. Yeah, 1653 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 1: and lindsay, I don't know how I mean they're saying 1654 01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 1: where possible conduct team meetings outside where you can properly 1655 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 1: social distance. I mean, you have a defensive team meeting 1656 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,840 Speaker 1: that's upwards of forty some odd players this time of 1657 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,320 Speaker 1: year in the summer anyway, or training camp, and I 1658 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 1: mean you might need a whole football field to properly 1659 01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: distance forty some odd people and three or four coaches 1660 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,560 Speaker 1: just to do a meeting. Yeah, I just don't know 1661 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:39,759 Speaker 1: how realistical is Yeah, I mean I'm kind of imagining. 1662 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, remember when you're in college and we would 1663 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,600 Speaker 1: have those days, they'd be like, let's have class on 1664 01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:47,120 Speaker 1: the quad. Like that just isn't you know, really conducive. 1665 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,439 Speaker 1: I think what's much more realistic for meetings is that 1666 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 1: they're going to go back to what they've been doing 1667 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 1: all offseason. But maybe guys they'll they'll restructure their day 1668 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,600 Speaker 1: so that guys can go back home or they'll go 1669 01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,080 Speaker 1: back to their hotel if it's during training camp, and 1670 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 1: they'll be in their individual rooms and they'll be having 1671 01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:06,799 Speaker 1: these meetings you know over zoom or you know, windows 1672 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,360 Speaker 1: meetings and all those different virtual formats that they've been 1673 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,759 Speaker 1: doing for this entire off season and they've become pretty 1674 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,280 Speaker 1: good at that, and that way they'll be able to 1675 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,280 Speaker 1: get everybody involved, because I mean, let's be honest, you know, 1676 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,360 Speaker 1: these are not protocols they're going to be in place 1677 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,320 Speaker 1: strictly for training camp. I think those are things that 1678 01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,960 Speaker 1: are going to be dealing with for the entire season. 1679 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 1: And you know where I live here in Denver, where 1680 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,679 Speaker 1: you guys are in Buffalo, you know, outdoor meetings, that's 1681 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 1: that's not something that really works much into the fall. 1682 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Right we're talking with Lindsay Jones of the Athletic who's 1683 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,800 Speaker 1: going to police these protocols? Wait this quick conversation last 1684 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 1: segment about that. I mean, what happens if something goes wrong? 1685 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,600 Speaker 1: Are they just relying on the players to chime in 1686 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,920 Speaker 1: and speak up to the league. If if they don't 1687 01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,240 Speaker 1: think that the protocols are being followed closely enough, or 1688 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 1: if they don't think the protocols are adequate, who's gonna 1689 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 1: say what happens to say, for instance, the Bills or 1690 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos if they're not adhering strictly to the protocols 1691 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 1: or is it just at their own risk and somebody 1692 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 1: gets the virus and now the whole thing shut back down. 1693 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Who who police is this? Yeah, so that's gonna be 1694 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,680 Speaker 1: really interesting. I mean, you know, right now, all the 1695 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,840 Speaker 1: protocols have been kind of jointly negotiated between the league 1696 01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,800 Speaker 1: and NFLPA, and it's you know, it's very structured in 1697 01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, who is in charge of all 1698 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,800 Speaker 1: of these things. There's and they have all these like 1699 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:28,840 Speaker 1: fancy titles of you know, like you know, infection prevention 1700 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,560 Speaker 1: officer and all these sorts of things. So it's you know, 1701 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,280 Speaker 1: there are people in place who're supposed to be in charge. 1702 01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:38,400 Speaker 1: I would imagine that the NFLPA is going to be 1703 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,280 Speaker 1: very much a watchdog on this and be very active 1704 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,840 Speaker 1: in staying in touch with their players about how these 1705 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,519 Speaker 1: protocols are being followed. Um. But yeah, I mean it's 1706 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,280 Speaker 1: it's a big question that I think they're going to 1707 01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:51,920 Speaker 1: have to you know, I don't know if they know 1708 01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,080 Speaker 1: exactly the answers to that yet. And you know, I mean, 1709 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,920 Speaker 1: i there's all these protocols in place all over the 1710 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,639 Speaker 1: country right now, and we've see how people are choosing 1711 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,880 Speaker 1: to follow them or not follow them. Really based on 1712 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 1: their own individual preferences. So I imagine once we get 1713 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 1: ninety guys back into a building, plus all their coaches 1714 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,559 Speaker 1: and all the staff and the support staff and everybody, 1715 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:14,719 Speaker 1: that it's going to be really hard to get everybody 1716 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,640 Speaker 1: to make sure that they're adhering strictly to all of 1717 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,559 Speaker 1: these protocols, you know, and what they do when they 1718 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 1: leave the facilities. That's another huge question where you know, 1719 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 1: it's one thing to you know, wear your mask when 1720 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 1: you're at work and your bosses are watching you and 1721 01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,519 Speaker 1: you're around your teammates, But what happens when you leave 1722 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 1: and you go home and you go to the grocery 1723 01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 1: store or you know, you take your kid out shopping, 1724 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 1: or you go to a movie theater or you know, 1725 01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:44,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is in the protocol or the um the 1726 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 1: rules and the state orders and stuff are different all 1727 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,800 Speaker 1: around the country, and you know, what are your families doing. 1728 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,320 Speaker 1: There's just a lot of layers to this that you know, 1729 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 1: I think they're you know, they're being very slow and 1730 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,760 Speaker 1: deliberate and laying all of this out, But there's just 1731 01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,559 Speaker 1: still so many variables, and I think things that are 1732 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: going to change between where we're at here now on 1733 01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 1: June eighth, and where we're going to be on July 1734 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,439 Speaker 1: twenty fifth or whatever it is, when when these players 1735 01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,000 Speaker 1: are starting to go back to work. Yeah, it's certainly 1736 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,759 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how it all unfolds 1737 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 1: over these next few months. I know you and a 1738 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,000 Speaker 1: colleague of yours for the Athletic kind of laid out 1739 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 1: pretty extensively how Michael Thomas, along with a gaggle of 1740 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 1: other NFL players, in conjunction with all people, someone from 1741 01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 1: the social media department at the NFL office kind of 1742 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 1: forced Goodell's hand, you guys wrote inside NFL Players Black 1743 01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 1: Lives Matter video and how it forced Goodell's hand. As 1744 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,879 Speaker 1: we know, he came out with a second statement by 1745 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 1: video which basically responded to everything that the players of 1746 01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 1: color on the video that was submitted prior to his 1747 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:54,800 Speaker 1: asked for what was the most fascinating part about kind 1748 01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,240 Speaker 1: of uncovering how this all came together. Yeah, I mean, 1749 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,760 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of layers to this. Um. 1750 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,599 Speaker 1: You know, what we've realized is there were so many 1751 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,000 Speaker 1: meetings going on within the league office, both you know 1752 01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,080 Speaker 1: and everybody. Everybody's working from home, so I can't it's 1753 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,960 Speaker 1: not within the actual building in New York City, but um, 1754 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:16,799 Speaker 1: you know, virtual town halls, meetings of individual groups, staff groups, 1755 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,760 Speaker 1: larger groups of employees throughout the week, and you know 1756 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: players obviously, you know, we've seen how clearly the players 1757 01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,120 Speaker 1: have felt about this UM and that really culminated in 1758 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,839 Speaker 1: the video that the player a group of players including 1759 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Thomas from the Saints, Patrick Mahomes, Ezekiel Elliott, 1760 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley, a group of really prominent players in the 1761 01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 1: league that they put out Thursday. What was really interesting 1762 01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,519 Speaker 1: was that it was really discussions within the league and 1763 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,679 Speaker 1: the league employee a lot of league employees especially they're 1764 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,439 Speaker 1: African American employees that really pushed for this within the 1765 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,680 Speaker 1: Within the league, they challenged Roger Goodell. You know, there 1766 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 1: was a town hall meeting that became very emotional, pretty 1767 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:59,200 Speaker 1: heated as um, you know, mostly black employees spoke up 1768 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,320 Speaker 1: and they told Roger Goodell how they felt. And so 1769 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,200 Speaker 1: it was really kind of this happened for a lot 1770 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,320 Speaker 1: of reasons. It wasn't it wasn't just the players. I 1771 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,560 Speaker 1: think the players video was really really, really powerful and 1772 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,040 Speaker 1: really impactful in one of the most effective pieces of 1773 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,160 Speaker 1: athlete activism that we've ever seen. But we also can't 1774 01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 1: discount just how important, you know, the league's own employees 1775 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,720 Speaker 1: were forgetting their bosses who have particularly you know, have 1776 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,479 Speaker 1: typically been very slow to act on things like this 1777 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,040 Speaker 1: on social justice. You know, they do ast eventually, but 1778 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,640 Speaker 1: it's usually a very slow process. You know, datas are 1779 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,560 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for um, you know, making this 1780 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:39,599 Speaker 1: happen last week when it did, you also wrote an 1781 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,160 Speaker 1: interesting article about what comes next. Certainly, the voices have 1782 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 1: been heard and the reaction to them has been evident, 1783 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:52,400 Speaker 1: but what what substantial or you know, is there anything 1784 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 1: to substantiate or reason to think it's going to be 1785 01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,760 Speaker 1: different going forward? What's going to change? And what do 1786 01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,840 Speaker 1: you think the first signs we will see of it 1787 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,720 Speaker 1: will be? Yeah, there's a lot of layers to this 1788 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,760 Speaker 1: as well, because you know, there's a lot of things 1789 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,320 Speaker 1: that are going to come next. You know, I think 1790 01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 1: even since you know, I was reporting on that the 1791 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,840 Speaker 1: story that you reference last week, a lot has changed. 1792 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, full teams almost now or teams that have 1793 01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:16,360 Speaker 1: been in one place have participating protests. I mean here 1794 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 1: in Denver last weekend, they're about fifty players who went 1795 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:20,760 Speaker 1: to a protest in a march, and now many of 1796 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,720 Speaker 1: those players spoke at a rally downtown in front of 1797 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,840 Speaker 1: the capitol, and we're seeing that across the league. But 1798 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,880 Speaker 1: what I do expect is that we are going to 1799 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,000 Speaker 1: see a greater number of actual player protests, these peaceful 1800 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,320 Speaker 1: player protests. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be 1801 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 1: mass meeling, although I would not be surprised if we're 1802 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:41,320 Speaker 1: seeing a lot more players join Kenny Spills and Eric Reid, 1803 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,600 Speaker 1: who were the basically the two last players who were 1804 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,640 Speaker 1: dealing last year. I expect we'll see more of that 1805 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 1: when games kick off or hopefully kick off in September. 1806 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,960 Speaker 1: But then there's just a lot of work that's also happening. 1807 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,520 Speaker 1: The Players Coalition has a really specific list of initiatives 1808 01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,880 Speaker 1: that they're working on, specifically tied to police reform, to 1809 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,519 Speaker 1: educating people about um candidates for police chiefs and police 1810 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 1: commissioners and mayors and governors and where they stand on, 1811 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, on police reform and police brutality and all 1812 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,280 Speaker 1: these sorts of issues. So, you know, I think there's 1813 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that involve actual protests, you know, 1814 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,720 Speaker 1: work being done behind the scenes, and then also a 1815 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:22,759 Speaker 1: lot of money being raised. I think we'll see T shirts. 1816 01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,280 Speaker 1: I think we'll see you know, we'll we'll continue to 1817 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,800 Speaker 1: see a lot of this social media posting. What's going 1818 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,479 Speaker 1: to be really interesting to see is how many of 1819 01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 1: the athletes who have spoken up over the last ten days, 1820 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,400 Speaker 1: the people who might be speaking out for the first time, 1821 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:38,160 Speaker 1: especially a lot of the white, white players who hadn't 1822 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 1: previously kind of joined in this conversation. Will they be 1823 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,599 Speaker 1: showing that same energy in September that they are now. 1824 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:51,960 Speaker 1: My curiosity kind of goes to how much more emboldened, 1825 01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, the players of African American descent in the 1826 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,280 Speaker 1: league are going to be now to use their platform. 1827 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean Good basically said flat out, we encourage you 1828 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:08,800 Speaker 1: to peacefully protest. I mean he green lighted anybody in 1829 01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:13,000 Speaker 1: any everybody who may have had some apprehension for fear 1830 01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:17,519 Speaker 1: of you know, repercussions, not unlike Colin Kaepernick. Now they 1831 01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:21,640 Speaker 1: have the green light. So are we expecting this cascade 1832 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,120 Speaker 1: of momentum to come now that the commissioner of the 1833 01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:30,679 Speaker 1: league has said go for it. Yeah, I think that's possible. 1834 01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's also important to remember that officially, 1835 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 1: there isn't actually a policy that's being in force right 1836 01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,720 Speaker 1: now that prohibits players from engaging in these sort of 1837 01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,320 Speaker 1: peaceful protests. You know, Kenny Stills and Eric read to 1838 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,800 Speaker 1: continue to do it. There have been no fines or punishments. 1839 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,720 Speaker 1: Eric Reid would probably argue that he had been the 1840 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,560 Speaker 1: subject of other sorts of punishment outside of actual you know, 1841 01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,880 Speaker 1: formalized fines and those sorts of things. But I think 1842 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,719 Speaker 1: what's going to be what we all have to remember 1843 01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,560 Speaker 1: here too, is that, you know, Roger Goodell kind of 1844 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,719 Speaker 1: acted solo, actually, I mean he really did act solo 1845 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 1: in this case, and that he didn't go and consult 1846 01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 1: all thirty two league owners before he put out this video. 1847 01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:13,479 Speaker 1: And you know, ultimately, you know, ownership has a lot 1848 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,920 Speaker 1: of say in any of these sorts of policies who 1849 01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,120 Speaker 1: they sign. You know, Jerry Jones has been probably the 1850 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:23,760 Speaker 1: most explicit about telling his players that the expectation is 1851 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,320 Speaker 1: is that they stand for the anthem. So it's one 1852 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,280 Speaker 1: thing to hear it from Goodell. It's going to be 1853 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 1: very telling to see when and which and how many 1854 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,000 Speaker 1: owners back him up with this and not just back 1855 01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,880 Speaker 1: up Goodell, but back up their players, because the players 1856 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,240 Speaker 1: are speaking out in record numbers right now. And you know, 1857 01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,439 Speaker 1: the owners at large have been the ones who have 1858 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 1: largely aligned with Donald Trump on this. You know, on 1859 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,000 Speaker 1: this matter they did back in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. 1860 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,120 Speaker 1: So it's one thing for for Roger Goodell to say it, 1861 01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,439 Speaker 1: it's going to be another for ownership at large to 1862 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 1: repeat it. We're talking with Lindy Jones of the Athletics. 1863 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,439 Speaker 1: He's also remember the Pro Football Writers of America. We've 1864 01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:05,840 Speaker 1: had some of this foreshadowing with the latest round of 1865 01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,360 Speaker 1: hirings in the National Football League and minorities once again 1866 01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,080 Speaker 1: are being overlooked for whatever reason. And now they're trying 1867 01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,600 Speaker 1: they're going to revamp the Rooney Rule to make it 1868 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:21,600 Speaker 1: more accessible and get more minority coaching candidates into the 1869 01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:29,040 Speaker 1: conversation at least what else. First of all, address what 1870 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,000 Speaker 1: they're doing with the Rooney Rule and what they could 1871 01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:32,599 Speaker 1: do with it or as you see it, and then 1872 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,599 Speaker 1: maybe perhaps if you've heard any ideas about something else 1873 01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 1: that could help the coaching side of the NFL rather 1874 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 1: than just the players side that we talk about so much, 1875 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:47,440 Speaker 1: but talk about the Rooney Rule, and they're the revamping 1876 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,840 Speaker 1: of it and also maybe some other ideas. Yeah, sure, 1877 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,040 Speaker 1: So you know, the most recent changes that they've made 1878 01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:57,200 Speaker 1: to kind of enhance the Rooney rule is that for 1879 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,280 Speaker 1: head coaching candidates, the previous rule, teams are required to 1880 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,600 Speaker 1: interview one minority candidate. That has now been expanded to 1881 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 1: two minority candidates for any head coaching job UM. It 1882 01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:13,120 Speaker 1: has now been expanded to also include coordinator positions, so 1883 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,639 Speaker 1: offensive coordinat or defensive coordine or special teams coordinator teams 1884 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,519 Speaker 1: will be required to interview a minority a minority candidate 1885 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:23,280 Speaker 1: candidate there and it has now been extended to front 1886 01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,679 Speaker 1: office roles and then all sort all sort of senior 1887 01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:31,519 Speaker 1: level VP positions across UM team organizations in addition into 1888 01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,559 Speaker 1: the NFL. So that's if you're hiring for VP of Marketing, 1889 01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 1: VP of Ticketing, VP of Communications, all of those positions 1890 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,160 Speaker 1: are now also subject to the Rooney Rule, with the 1891 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:47,600 Speaker 1: end goal that if your entire level, if your entire organization, 1892 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,760 Speaker 1: and you know, those jobs at the top of every 1893 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,799 Speaker 1: organization are also more diverse, then that will also result 1894 01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:56,400 Speaker 1: that will eventually result in more diverse hiring practices when 1895 01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,400 Speaker 1: it comes to these, you know, coaching and front office jobs. 1896 01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,559 Speaker 1: You know that we're talking about UM, but but as 1897 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,720 Speaker 1: far as other things, you know, I think you know, 1898 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:09,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not just the most high profile positions. It's 1899 01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,320 Speaker 1: not just the head coaching jobs. It's what does the 1900 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,720 Speaker 1: pipeline look like and how do they how does the 1901 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:19,639 Speaker 1: league truly work to diversify the pipeline for entry level 1902 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:24,479 Speaker 1: positions and to make sure that all coaches have kind 1903 01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:27,160 Speaker 1: of an equal opportunity to advance. And one of the 1904 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,960 Speaker 1: big changes that the league made last month was that 1905 01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 1: they eliminated a pretty kind of out of date rule 1906 01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:38,400 Speaker 1: that allowed teams to bar their assistance from interviewing with 1907 01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 1: other clubs, so that if it was for kind of 1908 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,360 Speaker 1: a lateral moves, so it was a way that teams 1909 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 1: were able to effectively kind of skirt some of these issues. 1910 01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:52,320 Speaker 1: They were able to prevent minority candidates from interviewing for 1911 01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,080 Speaker 1: jobs other places that could help them actually advance their career. UM. 1912 01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,920 Speaker 1: And if you talk to a lot of minority leader 1913 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 1: within the NFL, you know Troy Vincent, Rod Graves with 1914 01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 1: the Fritz Pollot Alliance, they talk about how changing that 1915 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 1: rule is going to be critical towards actually increase, you know, 1916 01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,360 Speaker 1: making it possible that these minority coaching candidates can actually 1917 01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,880 Speaker 1: have a fair shot to develop in their careers. So, 1918 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's really you know, that's that's 1919 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:21,920 Speaker 1: a lot of it. That's where this starts. It's not 1920 01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:26,000 Speaker 1: something that we should expect changes immediately. And you know, 1921 01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,840 Speaker 1: every team isolates within their own their own vacuum. They do, 1922 01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,880 Speaker 1: they hire, how they want, head coaches have you know, 1923 01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:37,200 Speaker 1: complete latitude to build their staff, how they choose um. 1924 01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:40,439 Speaker 1: So I think until the entire pipeline looks different and 1925 01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,760 Speaker 1: is more diverse. But I'm not sure if we're going 1926 01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 1: to see rapid changes, but I think the steps that 1927 01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,320 Speaker 1: they did take earlier this year are pretty important ones. 1928 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,400 Speaker 1: And Lindsay would probably be a remiss if we did 1929 01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:56,120 Speaker 1: not mention the fact that in your recent post draft 1930 01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:00,280 Speaker 1: NFL rankings you had the Bill sixth, which is probably yeah, 1931 01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:02,960 Speaker 1: most of the people in our listening audience. I think 1932 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,679 Speaker 1: what was even more amazing was you didn't have another 1933 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,799 Speaker 1: afcast team until seventeenth, which is where you had the Patriots. 1934 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,560 Speaker 1: So maybe just layout layout your thoughts on on a 1935 01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:17,400 Speaker 1: the Bills and why they seem to have a gap 1936 01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,400 Speaker 1: between them and the rest of the division. Yeah, well 1937 01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:21,960 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, I do want to point 1938 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 1: out that. So I write the power rankings, but it 1939 01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:27,599 Speaker 1: is voted on by our entire national staff, our whole 1940 01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:31,800 Speaker 1: panel of UM coverage league. So it's about all me. 1941 01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,280 Speaker 1: But I did have them. I don't have my spreadshee 1942 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:35,599 Speaker 1: in front of me, but I feel like I had 1943 01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,600 Speaker 1: them in that like seven to eight ish range, so 1944 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,479 Speaker 1: you know, pretty much in line where um. You know, 1945 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,560 Speaker 1: I guess on my own individual ballot I have, you know, 1946 01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,439 Speaker 1: right right in that range. But you know, I just think, 1947 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of positive momentum. I just 1948 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,400 Speaker 1: thinking you'd look at the off season plan and not 1949 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,880 Speaker 1: even just this off season, but really the last two 1950 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,360 Speaker 1: off seasons. Um, there's so much to like about the 1951 01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:02,200 Speaker 1: plan the Bills have put into place, the pieces that 1952 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,080 Speaker 1: they're adding around Josh Allen. I think they very clearly 1953 01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,560 Speaker 1: know what they need to do to make Josh Allen successful, 1954 01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,200 Speaker 1: the type of receivers that he needs, the type of 1955 01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,960 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you know. And I just think I didn't 1956 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,360 Speaker 1: love the trade for the fun digs, just given what 1957 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,680 Speaker 1: they had to give back to Minnesota to do it. 1958 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,840 Speaker 1: But I do understand that the type of receiver that 1959 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 1: they wanted to go out and get. But I just think, 1960 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, the best organizations right now are the ones 1961 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 1: who you just very clearly know what their identity is. 1962 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,720 Speaker 1: You know, It's what the Ravens have done, and I 1963 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:36,519 Speaker 1: think it's very much what the Bills have done. That 1964 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,760 Speaker 1: they know who they are, what they want to be, 1965 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 1: and what they need to do to be successful. And 1966 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,040 Speaker 1: then you know, as far as the rest of the 1967 01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,439 Speaker 1: AFC East, I mean, it's so it's going to be 1968 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:48,760 Speaker 1: one of my favorite storylines to watch this year is 1969 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,160 Speaker 1: what happens to that division now that Tom Brady is gone. 1970 01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots, you know, still should have one 1971 01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:55,720 Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the NFL. They have the 1972 01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 1: best head coach in the history of the NFL, but 1973 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,400 Speaker 1: we don't know anything about with their quarterback situation is 1974 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,519 Speaker 1: going to look like nobody knows, um if Stidham is 1975 01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 1: going to be any good. I mean, maybe he's going 1976 01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,240 Speaker 1: to be awesome or you know, maybe he's going to 1977 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:12,720 Speaker 1: be uh lethan Peterman for you know, I guess I'm 1978 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 1: on the far other you know, the other end of 1979 01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:18,559 Speaker 1: the spectrum out Wow, that was a low blow. But um, 1980 01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,400 Speaker 1: the first thing that came to my mind. But I 1981 01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,840 Speaker 1: just think for the first time in twenty years, that 1982 01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:29,080 Speaker 1: division is truly wide open. I just see the Bills 1983 01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,439 Speaker 1: as the team that is best positions right now with 1984 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,560 Speaker 1: the roster they have, the coaching staff that they have 1985 01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:39,040 Speaker 1: to become the best team in that division and should 1986 01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,400 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, and I think that they 1987 01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,240 Speaker 1: should be able to kind of assert that fairly early 1988 01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:48,040 Speaker 1: on this season. Last question, lindsay, who do you think 1989 01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:52,439 Speaker 1: fares better in this coming season? Tom Brady or Bill Belichick. 1990 01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:58,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really interesting, right, Um. I mean the 1991 01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,479 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick thing is so contingent upon how good Jared 1992 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,439 Speaker 1: Stidam is and if they've found a guy who can 1993 01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, survive, you know, as a rookie in the NFL. 1994 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,000 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really really hard for 1995 01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:16,160 Speaker 1: Sidham as as a guy who's had basically taken no 1996 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,519 Speaker 1: reps and having to come in and start for a 1997 01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,600 Speaker 1: team that still has a lot of personnel holes on 1998 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,200 Speaker 1: the offensive side. I mean, they didn't really fix their 1999 01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:26,840 Speaker 1: their weapons problem. It's not like they went out and 2000 01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,960 Speaker 1: like loaded up on all these awesome wide receivers and 2001 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,240 Speaker 1: tight ends this offseason, and he has no off season 2002 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 1: with his with his coaches and with his new teammates. 2003 01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:39,120 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be really, really difficult, you know. 2004 01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,479 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a little bit 2005 01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,879 Speaker 1: more difficult for Brady, but it's but he has already 2006 01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,559 Speaker 1: kind of really taken ownership of that offense. Um. I mean, 2007 01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:50,160 Speaker 1: I guess, I just I just can't pick against Belichick, 2008 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,880 Speaker 1: So I think if I have to pick one, it's Belichick. 2009 01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,559 Speaker 1: But um, I expect that by mid season we'll see 2010 01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:00,920 Speaker 1: a pretty a pretty strong Foreman is from Brady and 2011 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,400 Speaker 1: law Lizzy, thanks so much for being on. We hope 2012 01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,519 Speaker 1: you stay healthy during the pandemic, and good luck to 2013 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,200 Speaker 1: you this season. Thank you so much for having me. 2014 01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 1: I hope to catch up again soon, all right. Lindsay 2015 01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,120 Speaker 1: Jones NFL writer for the Athletics. She's a member of 2016 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,160 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Writers of America's got a number of 2017 01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,720 Speaker 1: really nice articles on the athletic that go all over 2018 01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,680 Speaker 1: the issues that we're facing and how the league is 2019 01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,479 Speaker 1: handling them and how the players feel about as a 2020 01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:27,240 Speaker 1: really wide ranging menu of articles. She's got I recommended 2021 01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown. 2022 01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:35,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna be here till three o'clock. Got NFL true 2023 01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 1: false coming up after the break, and like I said, tomorrow, 2024 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,000 Speaker 1: we've got Eric Wood and also Doug Ferrara of the 2025 01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:44,120 Speaker 1: USA Today coming on Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. One Bills 2026 01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,400 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalid to Health and Buffalo Bills Radio. 2027 01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. 2028 01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,960 Speaker 1: Thanks to Lindsay Jones for coming on from the Athletic. 2029 01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,479 Speaker 1: She had a lot to say about what's going on 2030 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,160 Speaker 1: around the National Football League and the doors starting to 2031 01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:07,000 Speaker 1: crack it open so that players and coaches can get 2032 01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:08,640 Speaker 1: back in what that's going to look like with the 2033 01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,600 Speaker 1: new protocols as a memo out from the league. We 2034 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,320 Speaker 1: also have a Twitter question that we put out to 2035 01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,559 Speaker 1: you our listeners in which part of the Buffalo Bills 2036 01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,000 Speaker 1: will make the biggest jump in twenty twenty and why 2037 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,920 Speaker 1: the running game, defensive sacks, deep ball accuracy. We also 2038 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 1: have a tweet sheet uh from brought to you by 2039 01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,800 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems. This from Jeffrey Ollman. 2040 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,479 Speaker 1: He says, this is one hundred percent on Josh that 2041 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,599 Speaker 1: in ball security, especially when he's on the move, when 2042 01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:40,000 Speaker 1: it's not that much on when it's when it is 2043 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,040 Speaker 1: that much on one person and he's going to do 2044 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,240 Speaker 1: all he can to fix it, it's likely to happen. 2045 01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,960 Speaker 1: It may require only a change in thinking, like put 2046 01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,000 Speaker 1: it where only my guy can get it, or to 2047 01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:51,479 Speaker 1: my guy can so my guy can fight for it 2048 01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:54,280 Speaker 1: and win it. That from Jeffrey Oman. So he thinks 2049 01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,599 Speaker 1: that the deep ball is going to be the thing 2050 01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,960 Speaker 1: that gets the Buffalo Bills takes the big jump in 2051 01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,519 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, rather than the run game or the defensive sacks. 2052 01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,559 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown Brownie, you ready? Are 2053 01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:11,720 Speaker 1: you up for NFL? True false? I am ready, man, 2054 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,200 Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, We'll tell you. Let's let's 2055 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:16,680 Speaker 1: do NFL true false. Here we look, are you going 2056 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:21,160 Speaker 1: him here? It is true or false NFL true false. 2057 01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy America, a New York's 2058 01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:29,280 Speaker 1: artist and cheese uh NFL true false. Number one. The 2059 01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:34,920 Speaker 1: Bill's best draft class since two thousand was in two 2060 01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:40,840 Speaker 1: thousand and one. Class in two thousand and one was 2061 01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:45,479 Speaker 1: hold on. It was they Clemens, Aaron Schobel, Travis Henry 2062 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:49,000 Speaker 1: at the top of it, Ron Edwards, Jonas Jennings, Brandon Spoon, 2063 01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:53,519 Speaker 1: Mark Marquez, Sullivan. You know they had Daniel Leary, Jimmy 2064 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:57,839 Speaker 1: William four of the first five. We're good, you know, Clements, 2065 01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:06,599 Speaker 1: Schobel and Henry and Jennings. Uh good draft and probably 2066 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:08,920 Speaker 1: I would argue it's probably one of the better ones 2067 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:16,960 Speaker 1: as far as the century goes, which is insane in 2068 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,240 Speaker 1: the In the draft, they had a ton of picks. 2069 01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:23,200 Speaker 1: Um Lynch and poz Lusni was a pretty good one 2070 01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:26,240 Speaker 1: two combination in two thousand and seven, but there wasn't 2071 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:31,880 Speaker 1: the depth of selections there. And unfortunately that was a 2072 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,240 Speaker 1: consistent case throughout most of the drafting that was done 2073 01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:39,880 Speaker 1: since Y two. K Um the O nine draft with 2074 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,080 Speaker 1: Eric Wood, Jared Bird and Andy Leavittry those were three 2075 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,000 Speaker 1: good picks in a row. But Aaron Maybin at the 2076 01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:51,200 Speaker 1: top at pick eleven is kind of what wrecked that one. Um, sorry, 2077 01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:57,479 Speaker 1: you're right, that's a yeah, that was rough. And then 2078 01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:02,599 Speaker 1: you know, you looked at the twelve draft, Gilmore at 2079 01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:06,559 Speaker 1: the top, followed by Cordy Glenn who was the starting 2080 01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,200 Speaker 1: left tackle here for three or four years, and Nigel 2081 01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:13,439 Speaker 1: Brandham was a competent linebacker. Ron Brooks the fourth round pick, 2082 01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:17,000 Speaker 1: good on special teams, but the draft class didn't have 2083 01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:24,840 Speaker 1: staying power here with the Bills, right yeah, yeah, even 2084 01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:28,479 Speaker 1: the thirteen draft though Steve EJ didn't work out. But 2085 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:31,160 Speaker 1: I think there were circumstances working against him here to 2086 01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,400 Speaker 1: a certain extent. He wasn't supposed to start his first year. 2087 01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,440 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be Kevin Cobb, and then he 2088 01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:38,320 Speaker 1: slipped on a matt and training camp and got a 2089 01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,280 Speaker 1: concussion in the preseason, and all of a sudden EJ 2090 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,000 Speaker 1: was on the field, which was ahead of when they 2091 01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:45,200 Speaker 1: wanted him on the field. But Robert Woods really good 2092 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:49,240 Speaker 1: receiver in this league. Kikko Alonso kind of victimized by injury, 2093 01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,440 Speaker 1: but he was a monster his rookie year. Goodwin has 2094 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,280 Speaker 1: found a way to stick around in the league. But 2095 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,880 Speaker 1: still no, not better than oh one. I think what 2096 01:54:58,000 --> 01:54:59,880 Speaker 1: you gotta do is you gotta get to some of 2097 01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:04,720 Speaker 1: the more recent draft classes under the McDermott bean regime 2098 01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,320 Speaker 1: to get about what about seventeen draft, Yeah, I mean 2099 01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:12,360 Speaker 1: you look at seventeen S Day Jones is a miss, 2100 01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:16,280 Speaker 1: and so is Nate Peterman. But White, not seventeen. I'm 2101 01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:22,440 Speaker 1: talking about eighteen with Josh Josh Harrison Phillips. Yeah, Teren 2102 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,800 Speaker 1: Johnsons your nickel. That's pretty good for your top four, 2103 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:29,080 Speaker 1: and you know you're encouraged by what you've gotten out 2104 01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:32,280 Speaker 1: of your out of your top four from last year's draft, 2105 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:36,240 Speaker 1: Oliver Ford, Singletary and Knox. I mean they're all potential 2106 01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:43,240 Speaker 1: cornerstone players. Was Milano a seventeen pick? Seventeen? Yeah, okay, yeah, 2107 01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,480 Speaker 1: so I think you seventeen is pretty good too, because 2108 01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:50,400 Speaker 1: there you have Trudavious, you have Dawkins, and you have Milano. Um, 2109 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,560 Speaker 1: So what do you think is is it? I think 2110 01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,640 Speaker 1: it fall. I think time will tell. But because you 2111 01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:01,880 Speaker 1: can't definitively say seventeen, eighteen or nineteen have had long 2112 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,240 Speaker 1: careers to really base it on, you probably do have 2113 01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,880 Speaker 1: to say true, it's the O one class because yet 2114 01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,680 Speaker 1: a two time pro bowler in showbyl you had a 2115 01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:13,480 Speaker 1: multiple thousand yard rusher and Travis Henry before the long 2116 01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,200 Speaker 1: time of the log hold to him right, Nate Clements 2117 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,720 Speaker 1: had a really nice career as a corner not just 2118 01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:22,800 Speaker 1: here Buffalo. But else Nings was a left tackle who 2119 01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,360 Speaker 1: then signed for big money and went to San Frand 2120 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,360 Speaker 1: if I remember right, right, So there you go, all right. 2121 01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,160 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say false as well, just because 2122 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,080 Speaker 1: of the possibilities that are still on the table and 2123 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:37,880 Speaker 1: NFL true false. Number two Brownie Dolphins drafting quarterback two 2124 01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:41,120 Speaker 1: A Tango tongo vlo is the riskiest move this off 2125 01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:44,880 Speaker 1: season by I guess, by any team. I don't know, 2126 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think so, I don't think, so I'm 2127 01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,200 Speaker 1: saying false. There there have been some riskier moves than that. 2128 01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a highly rated The only risk 2129 01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:59,800 Speaker 1: is there is what it is as hips hurt because 2130 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 1: or wise he's a top picks, got a long he's 2131 01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:05,200 Speaker 1: got a long injury history, and you know he doesn't 2132 01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:09,120 Speaker 1: have a an NFL body, shall we say, or at 2133 01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:12,720 Speaker 1: least that you look for at quarterback. So I understand 2134 01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:15,680 Speaker 1: the risk factors. But to say he's the riskiest of 2135 01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,960 Speaker 1: the office and acquisitions, that's a little steep. I'm saying 2136 01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:20,800 Speaker 1: that is. But I here's the thing too, go over, 2137 01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,400 Speaker 1: who are some what are some riskiest riskier moves. I'm 2138 01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,080 Speaker 1: having a hard time putting my finger on. But there 2139 01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:28,720 Speaker 1: just in Texans trade and that's Hopkins for DeAndre Hopkin. 2140 01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,960 Speaker 1: That's the David Johnson who's got an injury history, and 2141 01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:36,240 Speaker 1: Broad is so bad and people have been saying and 2142 01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:38,240 Speaker 1: we even had Lindsay Jones and she says she thought 2143 01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:42,680 Speaker 1: the Bills overpaid for UM for Stefan Diggs. Uh don't 2144 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:46,120 Speaker 1: know if I've never agreed with it because of his 2145 01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:50,800 Speaker 1: contract situation. UM makes him a bargain, I think, um, 2146 01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,920 Speaker 1: But what are the rest of Yeah, the Deshaun the 2147 01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:59,360 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins trade was that's a scratcher for me. That is, 2148 01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you knew who you weren't going to have 2149 01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,400 Speaker 1: him in the future, just based on where they felt 2150 01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:07,320 Speaker 1: contract negotiations were going. Obviously, so I understand wanting to 2151 01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:11,120 Speaker 1: move him. But Cardinals caught him for a song, right, 2152 01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,200 Speaker 1: so I'd say no to a tango vela was not 2153 01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:17,200 Speaker 1: the riskiest move in the offseason on in the NFL. 2154 01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:20,120 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. This is very subjective. This 2155 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,360 Speaker 1: is not an objective question. True false. So it's strictly opinion. 2156 01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 1: The Chargers have the best uniform in the NFL. You're 2157 01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,320 Speaker 1: talking about the new one or the old one. Or 2158 01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, the powder blues. They got to be talking 2159 01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:36,960 Speaker 1: about the powder blues here. I gotta tell you it, blues, 2160 01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty sweet. Yeah, I've said it too. I said 2161 01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:41,480 Speaker 1: in the in the booth one time when I was 2162 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 1: doing one of their games. You know what that the 2163 01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:47,400 Speaker 1: powder blues look like. To me? They just look really comfortable, 2164 01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just a really it's 2165 01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 1: just putting the cloud on or something. Yeah, you know, wow, 2166 01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:56,800 Speaker 1: that looks really comfy in that jersey. It looks even 2167 01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:01,800 Speaker 1: their new even their new uniforms looks sweet. Yeah, I see, 2168 01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:07,240 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see. Um they're white and gold 2169 01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:11,480 Speaker 1: pant look. When they played against that white's old pant look, 2170 01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,160 Speaker 1: I played against the old white and gold pant white 2171 01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:18,280 Speaker 1: jersey's gold pants, blue blue numbers with the with the 2172 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:21,160 Speaker 1: charge the lightning bolt. I think they put the numbers 2173 01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,200 Speaker 1: back on the side of the helmet with the last 2174 01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,920 Speaker 1: bolt they did. They did, which I like. I like 2175 01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:29,600 Speaker 1: that ad too, very true. Yeah, I've always liked to 2176 01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,600 Speaker 1: charge of uniforms. I think, Yeah, you have to be 2177 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,640 Speaker 1: like a fan of goths and not like it. And 2178 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,600 Speaker 1: I listen, I like them. I Um, there are a 2179 01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:43,720 Speaker 1: lot of uniforms I like, though, there's not just just theirs. 2180 01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,040 Speaker 1: I love the bills white on white jersey, the ones 2181 01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:49,640 Speaker 1: they wore in in Dallas on Thanksgiving. Let's just think 2182 01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:54,040 Speaker 1: of the old oilers blue. It was kind of the same. Yeah, 2183 01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,160 Speaker 1: it's a little bit lighter, I think, yeah, it was. 2184 01:59:56,440 --> 02:00:01,080 Speaker 1: It was Carolina blues what it was, and and it 2185 02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:05,600 Speaker 1: was accent with bright red and white, so there was 2186 02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:07,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a contrast, and that they 2187 02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:10,400 Speaker 1: were nice to a good color scheme. Yeah, good color scheme. 2188 02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they pulled the helmet off very well. 2189 02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:17,160 Speaker 1: The the oil rig on the side of the helmet, Yeah, yeah, 2190 02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,960 Speaker 1: that could have been. That could have been better. I think, Um, 2191 02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:25,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't really a sort of yeah, a little rally 2192 02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,200 Speaker 1: you need a little with something more to rally around, 2193 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:29,600 Speaker 1: you know. I don't know why didn't they ever have 2194 02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:31,840 Speaker 1: oil like shooting out the top of the dang thing. 2195 02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,360 Speaker 1: That would have been like put more action to it's 2196 02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:36,720 Speaker 1: just stick. Maybe it's tough to all to put little 2197 02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:38,680 Speaker 1: droplets of oil on there one at a time. I 2198 02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:41,240 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to, I don't know. Now 2199 02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,960 Speaker 1: you're worried about the equipment, guys and how much you know? 2200 02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:47,600 Speaker 1: And it was a nice everybody seventies. I don't know 2201 02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:50,280 Speaker 1: if the technology was there to make stickers like that, 2202 02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't know it. So what are your top three 2203 02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:57,040 Speaker 1: uniforms I like? I like the all the Bills uniforms. 2204 02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:59,120 Speaker 1: I like the white when they I played in the 2205 02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,920 Speaker 1: red helmet. Um. I like the white one better. Yeah, 2206 02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,520 Speaker 1: it looks sharp better. I like the white one, um 2207 02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:09,000 Speaker 1: with with the what do they got they have blue 2208 02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:15,000 Speaker 1: face masks? Do they? Now? No, it's just here white. 2209 02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:17,480 Speaker 1: It's white, isn't it. I don't know. I can't remember ever, 2210 02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,240 Speaker 1: but that's that's a thing alright. So I like their 2211 02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,360 Speaker 1: helmets now. I like their white on whites. I also 2212 02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:25,560 Speaker 1: like their color rush with the white helmets and the 2213 02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:29,280 Speaker 1: red on red pant Yeah. That's a sharp book. U. 2214 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:34,000 Speaker 1: There are some others too. I like clean, sharp, simple jersey. 2215 02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:37,000 Speaker 1: I like the Steelers black on black with the big 2216 02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:39,920 Speaker 1: wide gold stripes down the side and the simple stripes 2217 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,040 Speaker 1: on the side instead of the four and three stripes 2218 02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,840 Speaker 1: on the shoulders, just the two thick bars. That's a 2219 02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:49,760 Speaker 1: sharp jersey. I like that. Um. There's some others too. 2220 02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Listen the ones that are the ones that are bad. 2221 02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonvilles are horrible. Tampa Bay I can't get Tampa Bays 2222 02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:00,320 Speaker 1: are bad. They can't get it right. Um, you know, 2223 02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,720 Speaker 1: there's just some bad jerseys. I will tell you. So. 2224 02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:07,560 Speaker 1: My top three are Chargers. That's number one, the powder 2225 02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:12,480 Speaker 1: blue Chargers. Yeah. Yeah. Then number two is Chicago. I 2226 02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:15,400 Speaker 1: just love navy and orange. Man, it's just such a 2227 02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:20,600 Speaker 1: strong combination. I love the navy and orange, like just 2228 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,440 Speaker 1: I see Walter Payton with that navy jersey and the 2229 02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:26,520 Speaker 1: white pants and the blue and orange stripe down. Oh man, 2230 02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:28,360 Speaker 1: that's such a good look. And the helmet's just so 2231 02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:32,480 Speaker 1: clean with the orange c on there. And then third 2232 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:37,600 Speaker 1: is the Lions. I love their Honolulu blue silver. I 2233 02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:40,640 Speaker 1: just think that's sharp, man. I just think it's a 2234 02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,680 Speaker 1: good combo, and it's probably the only thing they've done 2235 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:49,200 Speaker 1: right in a long time. Yeah. Yeah, I've always said 2236 02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,200 Speaker 1: I thought that the Bear, the Bears and the Lions 2237 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,480 Speaker 1: are the exact same team in different cities. I mean, 2238 02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:56,480 Speaker 1: neither one of them can get it together. The Lions 2239 02:02:56,560 --> 02:03:00,720 Speaker 1: can't they what Then the Raiders silver black, there's always 2240 02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,400 Speaker 1: something cool about that. It's just it looks cool. I 2241 02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:05,440 Speaker 1: think I like the I think I like the name 2242 02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Raiders better than I like their jersey. I do like 2243 02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:10,080 Speaker 1: their jerseys. Don't even being black and silver period, that's it. 2244 02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:13,120 Speaker 1: That's all there is. There's no accent colors, none of that. 2245 02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:17,600 Speaker 1: There's they have white but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's then. Yeah, 2246 02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:19,960 Speaker 1: that and the way they lay them out to the 2247 02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:22,600 Speaker 1: white the silver pants with the white jerseys and just 2248 02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:29,080 Speaker 1: plain black numbers, no piping at all. Just very very yeah, 2249 02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:30,960 Speaker 1: very old school. I love that too. Yeah, it's a 2250 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,720 Speaker 1: good one. And I think you know, when you get 2251 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,360 Speaker 1: down look at the the Houston Texans jerseys, you know, 2252 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:40,160 Speaker 1: for instance, that's like the bills back in the two thousands, right, Yeah, 2253 02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:43,480 Speaker 1: trying to go to darker colors. Yeah, it's hot popular. 2254 02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:45,760 Speaker 1: Well yeah, so they look good with jeans, so people 2255 02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:47,640 Speaker 1: will buy them and they can, you know, wear them 2256 02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:50,440 Speaker 1: more often. I'm like, uh, yeah, I don't know. It 2257 02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:53,720 Speaker 1: was that was that the backing of the changes goes 2258 02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:56,080 Speaker 1: good with jeans. That was the marketing. Yeah, and for 2259 02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,000 Speaker 1: a while, Andy, if you could if you hadn't black 2260 02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:00,960 Speaker 1: in your color, if you had black in your color scheme, 2261 02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:03,080 Speaker 1: you accentuated it and that's what you wore. You know 2262 02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,080 Speaker 1: you had a black jersey with your team, no matter what, 2263 02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:09,160 Speaker 1: like the Arizona Cardinals have black jerseys. Yeah, what are 2264 02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:12,520 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Right? All right, all right? That is 2265 02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,840 Speaker 1: NFL true false, brought to you by Yancy's Fancy. Uh yeah, 2266 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:20,160 Speaker 1: New York's artist and cheese. I stumble over that because 2267 02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:22,760 Speaker 1: always want to say America's artists and cheese. But it's 2268 02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:24,880 Speaker 1: New York's artists and cheese. And well, I'm sure the 2269 02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Yancy's Fancies people wouldn't mind you spreading 2270 02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:31,640 Speaker 1: it nationally. And yeah, I know, calling it the nation's cheese. 2271 02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,240 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have an issue with that. People in Wisconsin 2272 02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:38,440 Speaker 1: might say cheese of America, right, Okay, the heck? Yeah, Tomorrow, 2273 02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Eric Path wherever you want him to. Former Bills center 2274 02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Eric Wood coming on tomorrow. He comes on and too. 2275 02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,000 Speaker 1: He's also the current radio analyst for Bill's Games. And 2276 02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Doug Ferrar of USA Today is coming on Tomorrow's Steve 2277 02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Tasker and Chris Brown coming back. We're here here till three. 2278 02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,000 Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live, presented by Clyda Health and 2279 02:04:54,040 --> 02:05:05,920 Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio Construction Rental company of the 2280 02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. We had Lindsay Jones on from The Athletic 2281 02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and she talked about the NFL players forcing Roger Goodell's 2282 02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:16,440 Speaker 1: hand into creating a new video message condemning racism. Here's 2283 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,560 Speaker 1: what she said. What was really interesting was that it 2284 02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:23,160 Speaker 1: was really discussions within the league and the league employee 2285 02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:26,440 Speaker 1: a lot of league employees, especially they're African American employees 2286 02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:30,320 Speaker 1: that really pushed for this. Within the league, they challenged 2287 02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:33,040 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell. You know, there was a town hall meeting 2288 02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:37,440 Speaker 1: that became very emotional, pretty heated, as you know, mostly 2289 02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:41,360 Speaker 1: black employees spoke up and they told Roger Goodell how 2290 02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:44,080 Speaker 1: they felt, and so it was really kind of This 2291 02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,800 Speaker 1: happened for a lot of reasons. It wasn't it wasn't 2292 02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:51,080 Speaker 1: just the players. I think the players video was really really, 2293 02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:53,560 Speaker 1: really powerful and really impactful in one of the most 2294 02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:56,840 Speaker 1: effective pieces of athlete activism that we've ever seen. But 2295 02:05:56,960 --> 02:06:00,240 Speaker 1: we also can't discount just how important, you know, the 2296 02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:04,880 Speaker 1: league's own employees were forgetting their bosses, who have particularly 2297 02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, have typically been very slow to act on 2298 02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:09,680 Speaker 1: things like this on social justice. You know, they do 2299 02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,640 Speaker 1: ask eventually, but it's usually a very slow process. You know, 2300 02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,880 Speaker 1: datas are a lot of credit for, you know, making 2301 02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:19,720 Speaker 1: this happen. Last week when it did, that was Lindsay 2302 02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:21,720 Speaker 1: Jones of The Athletic on what have we learned? Brought 2303 02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:25,000 Speaker 1: to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company 2304 02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:27,400 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bill. She's right, Brownie. We've said it 2305 02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,800 Speaker 1: time and time again, and we probably say about other 2306 02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:32,360 Speaker 1: issues as well. The league moves very slowly, but it 2307 02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:35,360 Speaker 1: usually lands in the right spot. And I think that 2308 02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Roger Goodelny's video helped them do that this last weekend well, 2309 02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,480 Speaker 1: and it was probably even more telling that for the 2310 02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:47,360 Speaker 1: first time, maybe ever, you know, the African American employees 2311 02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:54,400 Speaker 1: at the League office really were the catalyst behind making 2312 02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:57,720 Speaker 1: that come to fruition. And so as much as the 2313 02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:02,840 Speaker 1: players deserve credit for, you know, stepping forward and using 2314 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,680 Speaker 1: their platform to push to the message and prompt Goodell 2315 02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:09,480 Speaker 1: to do something, it sounds as though behind the scenes, 2316 02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, the African American employees in the League office 2317 02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:19,840 Speaker 1: were equally as effective in getting the commissioner to move 2318 02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:23,760 Speaker 1: on this in a constructive way that should pave the 2319 02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:27,760 Speaker 1: way for the players to use their platform all the more. 2320 02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I agree Tomorrow Eric Wood is going to come on 2321 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:33,000 Speaker 1: at two o'clock. Former Buffalo Bills Center current radio analyst 2322 02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:37,200 Speaker 1: Doug Ferrar from USA Today Brownie Good Show Today. I'd 2323 02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:40,560 Speaker 1: like to thank Kelly Rude, Jay Harris, Brownie. I'll see 2324 02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:42,840 Speaker 1: you tomorrow at noon. This has been One Bills Live 2325 02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:45,560 Speaker 1: presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio