1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Hell, Hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: I am Mike di Giovanna, former La Times Baseball writer 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: and host of the show. If you're watching us on YouTube, 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm not flying solo today, but we are going to 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit because Mark Trumbo, the 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: former Angel slugger and Halo Territory co host, was able 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: to put together a really interesting interview with Caleb Joseph, 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: one of his former Orioles teammates. Joseph is a former 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: catcher who played seven years in the Big leagues with Baltimore, 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Arizona and Toronto from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty, and 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: is currently a TV analyst for the defending ALE champion 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. Joseph provides quite a bit of insight 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: on several new Angels players, including Alec Manoa, Jordan Romano, 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: and Nick Sandlin, as well as new Angels hitting coach 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Brady Anderson, who helped tutor him in Baltimore. Joseph spent 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: four seasons at Double A and says he never would 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: have made it to the big leagues if not for 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Brady Anderson. He also weighs out a potential blueprint for 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: a team aspiring to go from worse to first in 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: its division. So listen up, Angels Helo fans. 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: We're lucky to have a very special guest today. He 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: is an expert on all things Blue Jays, and even 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: though we're not covering the Blue Jays, we have a 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: lot of their players and I was hoping a great 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: ex teammate of mine, a great friend of mine, could 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: lend us a hand with some scouting reports, possibly on 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: some of these guys that, frankly, I'm not terribly familiar 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: with some of them, I am. I'd also like to 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: talk about the Jays turnaround, going from a last place 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: club in twenty twenty four to a World Series appearance 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: and a very admirable showing against an excellent Dodger team 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: that is very stabbed. There's another topic on a new 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: Angel's coach that I think Caleb can lend some excellent 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: insights into. But how are you doing? What is going on? 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: And I'm going to let you do the heavy lifting 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: because you are the professional. 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 3: Not quite not quite doing great. Great to be with you, 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I can't take my eyes off 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: of that silver bat in the background. I think that's 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: a silver slugger. Did you get that at the yard 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 3: sale or did you earn. 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: That that was an eBay purchase? Sometimes, you know, cruising 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: around you see things I said that would make pretty 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: good decre So, yes, thank you for pointing out on 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: the on the main show. I know AJ Pierzynski also 46 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: mentioned it. I think you came up actually the other 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: day at the context. But yeah, something maybe about arbitration. 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 4: But hey, let me tell you a quick story about AJ. 49 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: So my first year, I'm a rookie in the big 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: leagues and he's playing for the Red Sox, and I 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: mean he's been around forever. I get in the box 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, what's up, AJ? And he just 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: looks at me, doesn't say anything. I was like, oh, okay, whatever. 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: So I end up grounding out or whatever. Next that 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: bat I woke up, Hey what's up? AJ showed up rookie. 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, that was just how it 57 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: was back then, back then, and you know Mark, back then, rookies. 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: Were to be seen not heard. AJ was great. And 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: then sure enough, four or five months into. 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: My first year he would actually talk to me, but 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: he was given me kind of that rookie silent treatment. 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: I always kind of respected him later on down the 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: line because. 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: That's just how it was. 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: It was kind of one of those things that you 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: had to do to kind of earn the veterans respect. 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: I'll never forget that at Boston, him just staring at 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: me like I didn't even exist. 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 4: Pretty cool. 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a couple instances there, at least one 71 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: in spring training. He no doubt has no clue and 72 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up on the main show, but 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: he had a swimmer off the end of the bat. 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: I was playing first and I had let it go 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 2: just a little bit further than he would have liked. 76 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: It was one of those borderline ones and you know, 77 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: uncertain terms. He told me to we'll clean the language 78 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: up and to pick the ball up, and of course 79 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: in that context, I had to let it go because 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: that is kind of a test of and it went 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: foul whatever. But I think once he realized I could 82 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: play a little bit, that that was how it was, 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: and you are correct, and I think that that's, you know, 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: some of the insights that fans want and the way 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: things have changed when we came up. You had to 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: earn it whatever you did in the minor leagues was 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: more or less irrelevant. Not that it's totally different now, 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: but I think guys, you know, they're coming up at 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: slightly younger ages, they're breaking in and it is a 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: little different world. You're on top of it. You do 91 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: this for a living, and I think, if you want 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: to jump right in, I want to talk about Alec Manoa. 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: I think he slots in in the middle of our rotation, 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: maybe a little towards the back end. What do you 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: think about Alec Manoa? How do you see this fit 96 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: for the Angels. 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those real interesting signs. I 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: think that Perry manassia and has kind of gone out 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: on a limb and said, hey, if we could kind 100 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: of find a little bit that magic he had in Toronto, 101 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: we might have something. 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: And if not, so be it whatever. 103 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: Alec was a star in Toronto when he I think 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 3: finished second in the cy. 105 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: Young voting not too long ago. 106 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: He had an absolute dominant year and I've never watched 107 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: a pitcher that young dominate the league the like like 108 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: the way he did in Toronto. And it was impressive 109 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: to see he got really big, really quickly. He was 110 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: on billboards he was on commercials, and I think a 111 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: lot of that success kind of got into his head 112 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: a little bit, not understanding that the league is going 113 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: to hit back at some point, and the league hit 114 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: back in that second year, and he just did not 115 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: have the ability to make quicker adjustments. 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 4: The fastball that he was using. 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: It was a combo of the four seam in the 118 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: two seam. He got a lot of ground balls on 119 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: the two seem in that really successful year. Then he 120 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: would go up top with the four seam and really 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: blow guys away. 122 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 4: He had a pretty good little sweeper break and. 123 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: Ball that was tight, and he threw a change up 124 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: every once in a while, but he really leaned on 125 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: the two different. 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: Fastballs and the slider. 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: In the last couple of years, he just has battled 128 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: injury after injury. His confidence has probably at an all 129 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: time low, if I had to guess, considering he didn't 130 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: really pitch in the big leagues in the last year. 131 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: And a half. 132 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: Now, with that being said, he has shown that he 133 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: can get outs in the big leagues. 134 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: Is it going to take. 135 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: Quite a bit of work, quite a bit of effort, 136 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: and a little bit of a runway to get that 137 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: confidence absolutely. I wouldn't put all your eggs in his basket. 138 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: But if he shows up much like a Miles Straw 139 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: did this year for the Blue Jays and gives you 140 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: more than you expect, then it's a great sign. Otherwise 141 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: you kind of move on and see what else you 142 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: have in the system. 143 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, under two million dollars too, I think it's an 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: under the radar. This could be a really nice sign. 145 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: I think that Anaheim is it's not low pressure, but 146 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: it's you've when we both played there. There is some 147 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: but it is a good place for a guy like 148 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: that to have a resurgence. Mike Maddox is the new 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: pitching coach. He's got as much experience as anyone in 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: the game, probably with the recent hirings and the trends 151 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: going on, more experienced than maybe nearly all. Well, let's 152 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: talk about Jordan Romano. He was a former Jay's closer 153 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: at one point. He's kind of bounced around. Last year 154 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: was a down year for him, but when he is going, well, 155 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: what do you like about Jordan and what does you 156 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: know he need to do to get back to form. 157 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Markham, Ontario native was kind of. 158 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: A hometown hero. 159 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: So to speak in Toronto, they would dim the lights, 160 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: the fire. 161 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: Emojis are coming up in the music. 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: And he was the stopper in Toronto for an number 163 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: of years, featuring that real high octane fastball, good hard slider. 164 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: He's a tall fella. 165 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: He's really kind of goofy off the field, but in 166 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: between the lines, he's an absolute battler. 167 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: He gets out there and there's a mantra. There's like 168 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: a switch that. 169 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: Flips for him in that he turns into this just 170 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: guy that is out for blood. And I love the 171 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: fact that he can do that. For a lot of guys, 172 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: it's a bit of a fake, you know, that's not real. 173 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: You're just trying to really pump yourself up. Not in 174 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: Jordan's case. 175 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: And I was lucky to play with Jordan in his 176 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: rookie season twenty twenty, and he didn't have that kind 177 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: of mantra. 178 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: But you could tell there was a lot of fire 179 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: in the belly and he. 180 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: Kind of had that bleep Eugene in him. And of course, 181 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: with some success in the big leagues and continuing to 182 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: work on the back end of baseball games, he kind 183 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: of developed that type of mantra. Now much like Manoa 184 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: the last year and a half, he's been hit in 185 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: the mouth and he's going to have to find a 186 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: way to kind of get that persona back look. What 187 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: is it chicken and egg conversation with success versus confidence? 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: Do you gain success after you know you're confident or 189 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: do you gain confidence after you have success? And I 190 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: think these are two questions that both Manoa and Romano 191 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: are going to really have to kind of figure out. 192 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: Are they going to try and fake it until they 193 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: make it or do they need to see some really 194 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: good early success before they start to really build that 195 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: true interconfidence. In Jordan's case, Jordan has the ability to 196 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: get outs on the back end of baseball games. 197 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: I think the tightness of his slider, in terms of 198 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: it being really tight. 199 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: Spinning and a short, late downward type action on the 200 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: slider is key for him. 201 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: He loves that pitch. 202 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: It's a pitch that he really I think goes to 203 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: when he's super confident, and he tends to lean on 204 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: that when he's having a lot of success. There are 205 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: times when he wants to shy away from his fastball 206 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: and it can get up there ninety seven, ninety eight, 207 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: ninety nine and at times he has become predictable in 208 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: pitching to basically back, so to speak, and I think 209 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: hitters have adjusted to that. He typically likes to work 210 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: that fastball up in the slider below, but at that 211 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: point he gets boxed in on one side of the zone. 212 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: So if you want to look up, you can look up, 213 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 3: and it's an easy take down. If you want to 214 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 3: look for that slider, you eliminate anything up, and he. 215 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: Becomes an easy at bat, so to speak. 216 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 3: So if I'm an Angels fan and I'm kind of 217 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: watching what Romano needs to do, in my opinion, he 218 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: needs to really kind of locate that fastball a little 219 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 3: bit better on the outer half and maybe even a 220 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: little bit lower to then set up that slider a 221 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: little bit better. But he comes with a ton of experience, 222 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: and if he can get going when his confidence starts 223 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: to build, he can ride that roller coaster up and 224 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: he can tend to kind of drag that out into 225 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: long and prolonged series of success. 226 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's incredible. I think that one pitch 227 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: that I'd like to see get highlighted over all the 228 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: other ones. The sweeper was very popular a couple of 229 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: years ago. I don't hear much about that anymore. Like 230 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: last year, the split finger was everywhere, and you know what, 231 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: it was nasty. Both Gosman and you Savage pronounce that correctly. Yes, yes, 232 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: devastating split fingers. There's no question A big fan of that. 233 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: But the down and away fastball will never go out 234 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: of fashion. You and I have talked about it, obviously. 235 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: I think that's a big key. There's a number of 236 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: guys on the Angels pitching staff that I think would 237 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: benefit from locating their fastball. Down and away is not 238 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: a pitch that guys drive. It is, you know. I 239 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: know that there's a danger zone that's about thigh high, 240 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: at lower thigh whatever it is, and people don't really 241 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: want to pitch there. But down in a way, I 242 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: mean I had a little bit of power. You can't 243 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: do anything with it. I mean unless the guy is 244 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: disciplined and wants to take a hit the other way. 245 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: That's about all you can do with the nicely, you know, 246 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: and getting ahead in the count is huge, so little tangent, 247 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: but I think we're trying to give the fans little 248 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: look behind the curtain on what you know, our opinion 249 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: as ex players is, and that's mine down in our way. 250 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Fastball nothing new, It's been round forever, but I'd like 251 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: to see it come back. We can kind of cover 252 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: these other guys a little bit quicker. Nick sandland Is 253 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: appears to be a side arm reliever. I've seen him 254 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: with the Guardians previously, I think, and he had a 255 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: brief stint with the Blue Jays. Did you see much 256 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: out of him? You know, he's got an odd look, 257 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 2: which I think most managers really like to have in 258 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: their bullpens. 259 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 260 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: So many bullpens nowadays are against different matchups certain guys. 261 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 4: They want to. 262 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: Face certain hitters because of how they could potentially match up. 263 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: If you're a sinker baller, you might want to face 264 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: a guy that has a little bit more of a 265 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: choppy type swing. If you've got kind of that high riding, 266 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: octane fastball, you kind of want more of a guy 267 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: with a little bit more tilt in his swing. Of course, 268 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: we can measure all of these things now in baseball, 269 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: and you can see how they want to start to 270 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: match up different hitters versus pitchers. And Sandling being from 271 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: the side reminds me a lot of Adam Simber, who 272 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: was in Toronto a couple of years earlier had a 273 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: ton of success, and we played with Darren O'Day in 274 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: Baltimore who had a I mean an amazing career, throwing 275 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: like eighty five miles per hour. 276 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: And one thing about those sidearm guys is I remember. 277 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: Catching them over and over and over and then facing 278 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: them in like a spring training kind of mock bp set, 279 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: and it was unbelievable how different it was to catch 280 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: them versus hit them. Catching them, I could close my 281 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: eyes and basically catch with one eye closed, but hitting 282 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: them it was a totally different look. And I really 283 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: think that's exactly what what Sandlin brings is. 284 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 4: It's a different look. You've got to readjust your eyes, 285 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: You've got to look a little bit lower. He's not 286 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: going to overpower. 287 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: He's not afraid to throw sinkers into rieties, which is 288 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: what a lot of these kind of sinker ballers need 289 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: to do from time to time. He's got that big sweeper. 290 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: He's obviously coming off of a bounce back year. He 291 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: was injured most of the year in Toronto. When he 292 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: was healthy, he was very effective, but he was in 293 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: and then just could not get back. I would out 294 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: of the first two that we've talked about, I would 295 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: say Sanlin probably has the best chance to be an 296 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: impact guy as consistently as anyone in that Angel's wullpen, 297 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: just because it's a different looking because he's got a 298 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: lot to prove well. 299 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: That is certainly optimistic. I think he always looked nasty. 300 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: Any side armor looks nasty in my opinion these guys, 301 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: the velocity is somewhat irrelevant. Darren O'Day might have thrown 302 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: eighty four miles an hour, but that's that is not 303 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: what makes him difficult to hit. If you can have 304 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: a guy from that arm angle. And the weird thing is, 305 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: I think when you're catching your head on, you know 306 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: you're getting a good look at it with both eyes. 307 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: When you're in the box, especially for a right handed 308 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: hitter and a right handed side armor, you have to 309 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: somewhat In my opinion, the approach became left center and 310 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to open up my stance, which is awfully scary, 311 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: exposing a lot of yourself to a guy that's coming 312 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: from that harm angle. But that was the only matchup 313 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: that I I mean, as a younger player, I know 314 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: I would have tried to take him the other way, 315 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: stay inside the ball. The cliches that I think have 316 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: gone the way that they should. Sometimes they are applicable, 317 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: no doubt, but at least with the side armors, I 318 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: never had any success until I started to make some 319 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: adjustments and actually tried to pull him a little bit. 320 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: But they are you know that you don't see a 321 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: lot of them. They always seem to be coming into 322 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: the game when you least want a weird look type 323 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: ball game. So he should really help. Miguel Castro has 324 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: somewhat He's not that far down, but you did catch him. 325 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: He's a new addition. He hasn't been talked about too much, 326 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: but we were oriol semates with him. He is, in 327 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: my opinion, a guy that eats a lot of innings. 328 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: He's a tough guy. He came up to the big 329 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: leagues at a very young age, really big stuff, and 330 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: he's kind of bounced around. But catching him, what do 331 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: you recall? 332 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: Oh, well, first of all, he's a Kevin Durant doppelganger. 333 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: Looks just like Kevin Durant. So Angels fans, I'm sure 334 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: you'll notice that right out the gate when you see 335 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: him come into the game. 336 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: Massive guy, what is like six'. 337 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: Seven his ankles can't be but this big round He's 338 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: he's one of those really really, tall lanky. 339 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: Guys hands are probably twice the size of my. HANDS i, 340 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: mean his fingers are. 341 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: Gigantic he can almost put his entire hand around to. 342 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: BASEBALL i remember catching him in just tremendous movement at tremendous. 343 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: Velocity he's getting a little bit. OLDER i think his fastball. 344 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Kind of more around that ninety four to ninety six 345 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: mile prior. Range WHEN i had, him he was ninety 346 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: seven ninety nine with tremendous run in. Sync for, me 347 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: it's all about his arm angle With. Castro the lower 348 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: he gets with the arm, angle the more run he. 349 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: Gets i've never liked run because the bat is longer 350 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: than it is. WIDER i like stuff moving north south 351 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: because you've got less barrel to work. With when he 352 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: gets his arm in a certain, position he can really 353 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: do some damage because that has tremendous. Sink he's got long, 354 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 3: levers meaning his extension is really. Good he's one of 355 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: those at bats that when you see it face to, 356 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: face he feels like he's releasing the ball right in 357 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: front of your, face and it's really tough and, uncomfortable 358 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: and even though it might register. 359 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: As ninety, five it's going to perceive and be felt. 360 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: Like it's ninety eight ninety nine because he's so out 361 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: there in your. 362 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: Face but good, sweeper good, Slider he's gonna eat. Innings 363 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: he's got. 364 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: A rubber, arm can typically go back to back days 365 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: without any. Problem, again he is getting a little bit, 366 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: older BUT i loved. HIM i loved that he came 367 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: into the game and was not afraid of big. Situations 368 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: and he's one of those cool guys in the, clubhouse 369 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: always a smile on his, face but when he gets 370 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: in between the, lines much Like, romano he turns into 371 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 3: a different. 372 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: Animal another guy that could be a big contributor this. 373 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: Year we haven't talked about him a, ton AS i, 374 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: said but a lot of Upside AND i think that's 375 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: a trend that we're seeing those guys you, know maybe 376 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: are not coming off their best, years but being given 377 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: an opportunity to go back, out return to form in 378 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: a place that you, know quite, honestly is a very 379 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: good spot for someone that needs to build their. Confidence 380 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: we've covered a couple of the other guys want to 381 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: keep it moving just a little. Bit But Jose siri 382 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: was signed. Yesterday he has some of the stranger Numbers i've. 383 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: SEEN i pulled up his baseball. REFERENCE i was trying 384 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: to piece together what Exactly. Now he wasn't a Blue, 385 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: jay but you have seen him quite a. Bit he 386 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: seems he was rated as the second fastest guy a 387 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: handful of years ago in. Baseball he routinely is in 388 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: the top, ten so he can obviously. Fly his defensive 389 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: metrics were you, know we use savon a, lot or 390 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: at LEAST i, do nearly maxed. Out and on the offensive, 391 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: side he's got some pop in the. Back but there 392 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: are a couple of. Things the batting average was very, 393 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: low the on base percentage very, low so he's a 394 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: very intriguing, guy and center field is pretty much wide. 395 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: Open they have an excellent defender In Bryce, tiodosio who 396 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: was called. Up covers as much range AS i can, 397 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: recall and it really is a special defensive. Player but 398 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: the bat is a work in, progress SO i think 399 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: him And SyRI they're both right handed, too so there's 400 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: not really a natural platoon opportunity. There but what did 401 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: you see out of A siri when you Saw. 402 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah you don't normally say the word raw to describe 403 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: kind of an older player that has been in the 404 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: league for more than two or three, years BUT i 405 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: still feel like that's the best word to describe. Him 406 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: saw him In, tampa saw him In New, york and 407 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: just a very raw type of. Player imagine like a 408 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: high school football player with all these, talents just showing 409 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 3: up to a baseball field and doing certain things that 410 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: you really don't see very, often yet not really excelling 411 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: in the entire. Package that's to, me That's suri Suriy. 412 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: Can he's got that kind of collision type approach at the. 413 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 4: Plate he can. 414 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: Run into one and you're going, wow like that was, 415 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 3: Amazing like let's do that more. Often and then he 416 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: could go a month without square in the ball. Up 417 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: but he's going to make an acrobatic catch in the, 418 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 3: outfield he's going to do something crazy on. Defense and 419 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: that's WHY i think you continue to give guys like 420 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: that at. Bat So i'm not surprised one bit that 421 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: The angels are taking a chance on just pure raw. 422 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: Talent you just never. Know sometimes later on in guys' 423 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: careers with this type of raw. Ability something. Clicks maybe 424 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: it clicks for The. 425 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: ANGELS i think that's a great. TAKE i will Piggyback 426 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: Trey mancini a little bit later with another, question And 427 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: siri can be lumped into that as, well because The 428 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: angels have a new hitting coach THAT i think we're 429 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: going to want to talk, about at LEAST i, do 430 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: And i'm hoping to Get brady on the show as. 431 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: Well But Brady anderson is Who i'm talking. About this 432 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: is another. TOPIC i think it. Applies it may be 433 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of a stretch for the fans to 434 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: kind of wrap their head. Around but The Blue jays 435 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, four we're seventy four and eighty. Eight 436 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: they were a last place club in The Al, east 437 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: AND i don't think a lot went. RIGHT a number 438 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: of guys had down. Seasons their bullpen quite, honestly looked, 439 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: awful AND i didn't watch anywhere near as much as, 440 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: you BUT i know they were not a good ball. 441 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: Club fast forward a year twenty twenty, five we obviously 442 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: know that they first place in The Al, east advanced 443 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: all the way to The World, series and WERE i 444 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: think an out away from from winning. It that was 445 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: an incredible the best SERIES i CAN i can, remember 446 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: And i've seen you, know as many as forty year 447 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: old has. Seen but incredible was at the first two, 448 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: games as were, you although we couldn't connect because you're quite, 449 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: busy quite into the fans love. You so The Blue 450 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: jays recipe for Success they brought in four free Agents, Santander, Suzer, 451 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: jimenez And. Stroke they really didn't account for a ton 452 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: of success one point seven war for those that are 453 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: interested in. That but what did this team do to 454 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: turn things? Around how do you go from a last 455 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: place club to A World series one out away from 456 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: winning a? 457 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: Club they really tried to start buying into, contact AND 458 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: i think Losing santander early in the season they had 459 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: to rearrange their entire kind of philosophy and thought. 460 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: Process Most ali's teams. 461 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: Are they're kind of those teams that they try and 462 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: slug you out of the. Ballpark and a minute that 463 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: they lost Some. TANDER i remember talking to hitting Coach David. 464 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: Hopkins he, said, look we just had to really rearrange 465 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: kind of what we were thinking about. Doing and they 466 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: had the personnel to really prioritize contact AND i think 467 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: in a day and, age they were a leg up 468 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: in terms of exposing so many bad defenses in the big. 469 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: Leagues back, when you, know i'd say ten to fifteen years, 470 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: ago if you couldn't play, defense you didn't play in 471 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: the big. Leagues, NOW i think over the last, five, six, 472 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: seven eight, years they're trading defense for some sort of 473 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: offensive capability that they deem worthy of taking over for 474 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: bad defenses because there's so many, strikeouts because there's so many, 475 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: walks because there's really not that many plays throughout a 476 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: Major league game as there used to. BE i think 477 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: The Blue jays, said, look we're going to put the 478 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: ball in play because of. 479 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 4: How we're set. Up we're going to see what. 480 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: Happens and they got buy in really quick from their star, 481 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: players AND i think that was huge and massive for 482 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: them that they had to get buy in from their best. 483 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: Players then once they started to see some of the 484 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 3: fruits of that labor and concentrating on putting the ball in, 485 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: play having less selfish at, bats and with the personnel 486 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: to do, it they were able to really start. Rolling 487 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: and they ended up making, it as you, said all 488 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: the way of The World. SERIES i do think that 489 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 3: the biggest thing for, them, though was getting that buy. 490 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: In and so whatever your philosophy, is you've got to 491 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: get it from the top. Down and, yes it's a 492 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: game played by individuals with a team, ofach but you 493 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: got to have something to hold on to because each 494 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: and every night you might be asked to do something. 495 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: Different my, opinion WHAT i saw from them is they 496 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: really grew as a selfless type of. Team if the 497 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: situation called to get someone, over they did. It and 498 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: they were able to really execute certain things that were 499 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: old school baseball terms and, principles and, hey it. 500 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: Worked you. 501 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: Know it took them all the way to The World, 502 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: series and guess they lost to The, dodgers but they 503 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 3: made it and they showed that old school principles still 504 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: can work and still can play at a high. 505 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: Level, well they were first in batting, average they were 506 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: fourth in, Runs they were second best in baseball at 507 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: not striking out or twenty, ninth but they were eleventh 508 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: in home, runs thirteenth and. Walks so all of these, 509 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: things AND i think the Point i'm trying to make 510 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: is The angels offense lest year was very one. Dimensional 511 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: in my, Opinion they hit a lot of home, runs 512 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: but they didn't do a lot else to generate. Rallies start, 513 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: rallies drive guys, in move guys over those. Elements WHILE 514 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: i Think Ron washington wanted to incorporate some of, IT 515 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: i don't know if maybe it's an organizational. Philosophy maybe 516 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: it's just the guys. THERE i know a lot of 517 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: them are. YOUNGER i think influenced by some of the 518 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: trends in the. GAME a lot of guys are incredibly pull, 519 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: happy AND i think if there, was you, know an, 520 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: area there's a, few But i'd like to see guys 521 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: using the whole field, more especially guys Like logan, O'hapi Joe. 522 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: Adell they have power to all, fields and when you 523 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: get locked in and trying to pull the, ball especially 524 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: pull the ball in the, air it can be very. 525 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: Limiting you're not going to take your hits the other. 526 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: Way you're not going to stay on some of those 527 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: off speed. Pitches and they also struck out a. TON 528 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: i believe they led the league in strikeouts twelve, thirteen 529 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 2: fourteen a game at, times and it kind of spirals 530 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: and The Blue jays didn't do. That you don't get 531 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: to The World series by striking out fifteen times a. 532 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: Game it may, happen but when you're facing the best, 533 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: pitchers you need to have the ability to put the 534 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 2: ball in, play and sometimes that is a. Single and 535 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: you know, WHAT i was always happy with a. SINGLE 536 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: a base. HIT a base hit in the major leagues 537 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: is really. Cool remember, that, guys and. 538 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 4: To two thousand, ops two thousand. Ops you know? WHAT 539 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: i Saw trumbo throughout the. 540 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: YEAR i saw veteran pitchers getting so ticked off trying 541 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: to navigate their way through The Blue jays lineup because 542 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: they got so pesky at trying not to strike. Out 543 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: you would see guys Like Blake. 544 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: SNeW i remember Watching Justin furlander literally step off the 545 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: back of the. Mountain was he forty something years, Old 546 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: he's seen it all In, toronto stepping off the back 547 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: of the, mountain like shaking his head because he had 548 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 4: thrown three perfect sliders To Ernie clement and he wouldn't strike, 549 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: out and at that point you knew you had him. 550 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: BEAT i saw it year in year. Out well that's 551 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: a terrible. Phrase let's try that. AGAIN i saw it 552 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: day and day out throughout the entire year that they 553 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: would frustrate these pictures because pitchers are so used to 554 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: getting to a certain, sequence throwing their best pitch and 555 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 4: getting either weak contact or more likely than, not a. 556 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: Strikeout and they really did something different to those pictures 557 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: and it was fun to watch kind of the game 558 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: change just a little bit kind of back to That oh, 559 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: wow like you can have a lot of success taking 560 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 3: what's given to you and then taking your shots when 561 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: you get. UP i had a coach one time, said, 562 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: look the first two strikes are. Yours the third strike 563 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: is the team the team. 564 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: Strike so if you. 565 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 3: Want to go for some loft out, front go, Ahead 566 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: but once you get to that third, strike then have 567 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: a good team at. 568 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: Bat AND i think that's what The Blue jays, did 569 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: and it was it was fun to watch all season. 570 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: Long that is fun to. Watch another Thing i'd like to, 571 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 2: say if you want a trum, bomb As i've been 572 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: told to, enjoy no popouts on the first pitch of, 573 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: it inning tired of. That it's not a good team at. 574 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: Bat it has no, place at least in my. Game 575 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: it wasn't something that we were player of my age 576 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: coming up that was frowned. Upon you either took the, 577 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: pitch or in the rare case that maybe you did 578 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: want to go you let The Howie. KENDRICK i can 579 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: vividly remember telling him at times very few BUT i, said, 580 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: HEY i might go early here IF i was hitting 581 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: in front of, him and he would gladly take the 582 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: pitch on the flip. Side BUT i think it's your, 583 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: duty sometimes as a leadof, hitter or most every, time 584 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: to have a somewhat of a team at. Bat you 585 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: may not be thrilled if you do take a strike 586 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: down the, middle but it sets up an inning better 587 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: than a weak infield pop. Up so there it. Is 588 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: you don't need to comment on, that BUT i think you. 589 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: MIGHT i love, It. 590 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: Okay they were also The Blue jays one last thing 591 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: on the. Team they were fourth in defensive runs, safe 592 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: so their defense got a lot. Better The angels did 593 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: not play great defense last. Year it's no. Secret they 594 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: did turn to one of double, plays but beyond that 595 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: it was not a. Strength AND i think The Blue, 596 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: jays no. DOUBT i don't have the stats in front of, 597 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: me but it seems like they, improved AND i thought 598 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: maybe it was more pitching and. Defense it turns out 599 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: in their case it was hitting and, defense as the 600 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: combined era for The jays was nineteenth and, baseball so 601 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: they had quality starting, pitching especially in the. Playoffs absolute 602 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: brilliant performances by a few of those. Guys but it 603 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 2: looks like the dynamic offense and the improved defense were 604 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: actually the keys for that ball. CLUB i want to 605 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: turn to the last topic THAT i really wanted to 606 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: get out of the. Way Ken rosenthal wrote a tremendous 607 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: article the other day covering New angels hitting Coach Brady, 608 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: anderson and there were quotes by, you and there were 609 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: some really cool insights into How brady helped you as 610 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: a minor. LEAGUER i believe you guys connected when you 611 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: were In DOUBLE, a and he seems to have a 612 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: very unique ability to get through to guys in the right. 613 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: Way sometimes it's, mental sometimes it's, physical but he really 614 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: does a good job of believing in the, player and 615 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: sometimes that's what it takes just for a guy that's 616 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: a little bit on the, fence that knows he can 617 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: play but hasn't had that. REASSURANCE i Think brady is 618 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: very very good at communicating that to. Guys another guy 619 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: that we, Signed Trey. MANCINI i saved him for this 620 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: segment because him And brady are very. Close it's no 621 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: secret you mentioned in the article as, Well so maybe 622 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: you could talk about your experiences With, brady and then 623 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: if you could Incorporate Trey mancini in as, well because 624 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: you were teammates with him for quite a while AND 625 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: i know you guys knew each. 626 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 4: Other. 627 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sure brady was. INCREDIBLE i remember getting to know 628 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: him after my third season In DOUBLE. A i broke 629 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: the game's played record In DOUBLE, a played four years, 630 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: there and had it not been For Brady, ANDERSON i 631 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't have made the big. Leagues he saw talent in 632 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: me and solved belief in, me and he started pouring 633 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: that into. Me AND i felt LIKE i could play 634 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: in the big, leagues BUT i needed someone who had done, 635 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: it who had been, there who had experienced, that to 636 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 3: tell me THAT i had that ability and really believe in. 637 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: Me he was that person for me and then gave 638 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: me very specific goals and ways to attain those goals 639 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: to then get. THERE i trusted him at worked AND 640 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: i ended up playing in the big. Leagues he was 641 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: really big into. Nutrition this was ten twelve years. Ago 642 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: he was really big into. This he's kind of always 643 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: been a little bit. 644 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 4: Ahead of the. 645 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: Curve he was into the biomechanics of a lot of 646 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: different body movements before a lot of this stuff has 647 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: now been able to be tracked and stuff he was 648 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: thinking about all of this. Stuff he's a sports, fanatic 649 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: loves all different types of, sports loves the ins and 650 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: outs in all the different ways that athletes, perform not just. 651 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: Baseball he's very eccentric might be the right. Word he's 652 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: just very open but has his beliefs and so he's 653 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: able to connect with so many different types of. 654 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: Players and as you just, mentioned if you've got some. 655 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: Angel players that are they, believe but they're not totally 656 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: wholeheartedly all in like Saying mike trout, Is brady's. 657 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 4: The kind of guy that can get them to the next. 658 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: Level he's the kind of coach and teacher that can 659 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: really take these guys into a different, zone not only, 660 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: mentally but possibly physically as. 661 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 4: Well AND i JUST i love what he. 662 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: Brings he was a tremendous help getting to see him 663 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: work with a guy Like Trey mancini who was had 664 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: a lot of talent but wasn't like a, massive massively 665 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: high draft pick and then really kind of create his 666 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: mental fortitude to be able to get into the big. 667 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 4: Leagues and start to really perform and help him in 668 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 4: so many different. 669 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: Areas he works with pitchers as, well he knows both 670 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: sides of the, ball a pretty good batting practice thrower 671 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: for what it's. 672 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: Worth that always. 673 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: Helps but, yeah he's going to be able to do 674 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: a lot of different things in This angel's kind of, 675 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: offense so to, speak whether it be preparation and looking for, 676 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: trends whether it be physically even seeing a weakness in 677 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: the guy physically and being able to communicate that with 678 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: the training staff nutritionally, speaking mentally, speaking he can cover 679 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: a multitude of different. Zones and, YEAH i think getting 680 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: to watch him work With, tray especially as a younger. 681 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: Player me being kind of past that. 682 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: Tutorship if that's even a, word if you, know after 683 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: like three or four years INTO i can kind of 684 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: watch him kind of recycle back Around. Trey it was 685 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: fun to watch him kind of take him under his 686 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: wing and watch him do his thing with With. Tray 687 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: AND i think he's got that ability still now to 688 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: do that with a bunch of These angels, Players so 689 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: don't be surprised if you see a guy like you, 690 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: know maybe maybe it Is Joe adele who's been, good not, 691 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: great but it shows flashes of. 692 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 4: Greatness maybe hit a prolonged length of. 693 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: Really good, PLAY i would, say without, question And brady 694 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: will have some sort of impact if that. 695 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: HAPPENS i think it's really interesting Because brady And John 696 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: maybray are two very experienced baseball. Men they are not 697 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: the trendy highers that are happening around the. Game and 698 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: some of these guys have had tremendous. Success David popkins 699 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: is a younger. GUY i came from The, twins If 700 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: i'm not, mistaken and had excellent. RESULTS i, mean he 701 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: really did a very nice. Job BUT i think The 702 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: angels are going to benefit from an ex player in this, 703 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: Case i'd like to see more in the. Game it's right, 704 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: now it's not a popular time for ex players to 705 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: you don't get. Hired, frankly it is, interesting but The 706 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: angels have kind of bucked the trend and their entire 707 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: staff essentially are the opposites of what everyone else is. 708 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: Doing SO i think MAYBE i know college coaches seem 709 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: to be also all the, rage but The angels are 710 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: kind of going against the grain and see how it. 711 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: Goes BUT i am a big. Fan i've said that 712 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: previously previous, episodes BUT i think it should be really. 713 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: Good is there anything ELSE i know that you cover 714 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: The Blue, jays but The. Angels what do you think 715 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: is in the? Cards i've SAID i think five hundred 716 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: would be an excellent goal for a ball club that 717 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: is trying to work its way back. UP i remember 718 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: the first TIME i was with The. Diamondbacks we were 719 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 2: coming off a very lousy year And tony The. Russa 720 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: this was the only time we had a meeting at 721 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: the end of the. Season usually the last game of the, 722 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: year you pack, up you're, out you, know you say goodbye. 723 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: Whatever sometimes you do that before the game kind of 724 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: it's just. Understood we had a team meeting at the 725 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: end of the year and he, said, look our goal 726 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 2: is to be five hundred next. Year AND i, said, 727 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: wow it was really. INTERESTING i didn't expect, it didn't 728 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 2: expect a, meeting BUT i started to wrap my head around, 729 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: it And i've thought about it in subsequent you, know 730 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: as the time has gone on AND i said that 731 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: was really smart because it acknowledges that that is a 732 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: goal that is. Reasonable you, know if you're a guy 733 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: that's a career two fifty hitter and you want to 734 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: hit three twenty might be a little bit, tough you 735 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 2: might get discouraged for a team like, this and The 736 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: Blue jays vastly surpassed. That SO i, think you, know 737 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: these are my own, Thoughts but what do you think 738 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: with the club that, is you, know kind of searching 739 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: for a new, identity what kind of goals would you 740 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: would you? 741 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: See, YEAH i like It trump just Because seattle is 742 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: going to be really. Good don't sleep on The. Athletics 743 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: can't Say oakland. ANYMORE i MEAN i did that series 744 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: against The athletics and they've got some sneaky good pieces over. 745 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 4: There that first. 746 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: Basement, KURTZ i think his, name he's, well he's he's 747 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: a big old. Boy but you just look at the. 748 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: Division you've Got, houston. 749 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 4: They're going to. 750 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: REBOUND i mean they were WENT mia for the first 751 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: time in how many. 752 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 4: Years, yeah it's a tough. 753 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: Division it's IT'S i think five hundred would be a 754 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: very attainable type. Goal you're gonna have to get really 755 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: nice productions out of a lot a lot of the 756 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: guys we talked About, romano you, know even some of 757 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 3: these new, guys like Even siri coming in maybe doing. 758 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: Something minoa's gonna have to probably show. Up it's going 759 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 3: to be a battle to get to five, hundred but 760 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: you've got at some point you've got to kind of 761 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 3: set a, goal attain, it and then see what you 762 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: have with not only a branded coaching, staff but with 763 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 3: some of these players that are kind of getting to 764 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: the point of all, right is he one of us 765 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: or are we going to have to find someone? Else 766 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 3: some of these, players in my, opinion in the system 767 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 3: are hitting that point where it's, like are we either 768 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: going to extend you or is your leash running? 769 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 4: Out so at five, HUNDRED i think it's a good. 770 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: Goal tough, division but, look that place is so awesome 771 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: to play. AT i mean when they play the song 772 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 3: and the rally, MONKEY i, mean come, on, like even 773 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 3: as a visiting, player it's. Fun it's fun to play, 774 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: there the weather's, awesome they got cool. FANS i still 775 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 3: can't figure out why people don't want to go To 776 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: anaheim or why AND i can't win you, KNOW i 777 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 3: just was not Even Anaheim. 778 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 4: La whatever they call it, now you Know Los Angeles. Angels, yeah, 779 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 4: yeah so it's, both, right it's. BOTH i really wish. 780 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: That they could kind of get back into contention because 781 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 3: it's fun being able to watch kind of the red 782 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 3: and white out. 783 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 4: There do. 784 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: Well, WELL i really appreciate you taking the. Time you 785 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: provided exactly WHAT i was looking for as the more 786 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: polished of the two of. Us you are paid to do. 787 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 4: This for a little not, true not. 788 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: True, no that was very nice of. You i'm sure 789 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: the fans will enjoy. It and thank you for being 790 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: our guest. 791 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 4: Today you got. It thanks for having me