WEBVTT - What’s on your Mind??

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren z e mc comedy from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas. I am unbelievably excited for

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<v Speaker 1>this show today. If there is a show you should

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and listen to and take in, it is

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<v Speaker 1>this one. I think this will be moving important, inspirational, educational.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to doctor Amen, doctor Daniel Amen, who is

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<v Speaker 1>really the foremost educator, philosopher on brain, on mental health,

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<v Speaker 1>on mental education, on brain scans. His aim in clinics

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<v Speaker 1>have seen more brain scans than any in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's also doing TV shows and social stuff. With

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<v Speaker 1>all the brain scans that he's done, he is so

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating and I have a thousand questions for this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been following him on Instagram for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm super excited to get to talk to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't follow him on Instagram, do it

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<v Speaker 2>because he does constant videos onlike you know, just quick

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<v Speaker 2>tips on your mental health things, the way that certain

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<v Speaker 2>food affects your brain, that kind of thing. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>advisor to major celebrities like Miley Cyrus and a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other people and kind of also trains them on

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<v Speaker 2>like how to focus into their success, how to change

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<v Speaker 2>their outlook, like to give yourself an outlook of positivity,

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<v Speaker 2>to create what you want through training your brain to

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<v Speaker 2>look for those things. So he does this incredible combination

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<v Speaker 2>of he's got the real data he's scanning your brain,

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<v Speaker 2>combined with like how you can use that and the

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<v Speaker 2>way you literally talk to and in your own brain

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<v Speaker 2>to create the life you want.

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<v Speaker 3>So he is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Physician, but also an adult and child psychiatrist as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the founder of the ABE and Clinics. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren was just alluding to, has both sides cover as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, the clinical side of being an

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<v Speaker 1>actual but then the psychiatry part as well. So fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>topic today with a very fascinating man. We are excited

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome doctor Amen into the show today. Doctor Amen,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>I am really great, Chris, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm terrific. Thank you so much for the time. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my wife, Lauren.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Aman. I'm fangirling.

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<v Speaker 2>I followed you on Instagram for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm so excited that you're here on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you just do something with our coworker slash boss,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Phil.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I saw you with him.

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<v Speaker 4>I did what did you guys do in the studio?

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<v Speaker 4>We went after diet coke together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's a big iced tea drinker.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm looking forward to scanning his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm sorry we missed you. We're there probably a

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<v Speaker 2>couple times a month we do. We're we're in a

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<v Speaker 2>deal with Merritt Street, so we're here in Austin, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and we drive to Dalla and we're working on some

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<v Speaker 2>shows with them.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, how fun. I'm hoping to be there more. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to be there again in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>On another showed to I need to be up there

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<v Speaker 1>whenever he's scanning brain. I want my brain. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want my brain scan, but also scared to find

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<v Speaker 1>out what that might reveal about me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's launch into the podcast with that, Doctor Amon, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you right off the bat, should Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison get his brain scanned?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you scared about that idea? Of Babe?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I would relish the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think what would he learn For the

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<v Speaker 2>people out there who are just finding out about you,

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<v Speaker 2>you are the forefather of brain scans and all they

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<v Speaker 2>can reveal. What are some of the basic takeaways people

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<v Speaker 2>will get from having their brain scanned?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's only good news because you have what you

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<v Speaker 5>have and if I can make it better, well then

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<v Speaker 5>you're better. When I met my wife Goodness, almost twenty

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<v Speaker 5>years ago, I like fell hard for her, But the

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<v Speaker 5>first naked part of her I wanted to see was

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<v Speaker 5>her brain because ultimately, it's your brain that creates chaos

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<v Speaker 5>in your life, or it's your brain that creates happiness

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<v Speaker 5>and consistency and reliability and passion and purpose. And one

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<v Speaker 5>of my friends, doctor Earl Henslen, who refers to me,

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<v Speaker 5>he said, you know, if there's no forethought brain function,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no for play.

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<v Speaker 3>So how quickly into dating did you scan her brain?

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<v Speaker 5>It was three weeks. In my family is if you

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<v Speaker 5>date any of my children. I have six children, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think second round, you got to get scammed?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>What type of scan? Just so everyone listening understands, this

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<v Speaker 1>a CT scan? What kind of scan?

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<v Speaker 5>Now? We do a study called brain spacked spect imaging

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<v Speaker 5>stands for single photon emission computed tomography. It's a nuclear

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<v Speaker 5>medicine study that looks at blood flow and activity, looks

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<v Speaker 5>at how your brain works and basically shows us good activity,

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<v Speaker 5>too little or too.

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<v Speaker 4>Much, and then my job is to balance it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can take that scan. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only good news because it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you said, you can make that better and better.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are some things where you see for the

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<v Speaker 1>average human being that you can give them the advice

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<v Speaker 1>to better it? And what is that advice?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, brain health is three things. It's brain envy. You've

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<v Speaker 5>got to care about it. Nobody cares about brain because

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<v Speaker 5>you can't see it right. You can see the wrinkles

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<v Speaker 5>in your skin, of the fat around your belly, and

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<v Speaker 5>you can do something when you're unhappy with it. But

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<v Speaker 5>because nobody looks at their brain, very few people actually care.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though, if you're blessed to lift eighty five or beyond,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a one and two chance of being diagnosed

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<v Speaker 5>with dementia, you have a one and two chance of

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<v Speaker 5>having lost your mind. And so I think, like colonoscopies,

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<v Speaker 5>you should evaluate your brain on a regular basis. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's the first thing brain. Then you got to care

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<v Speaker 5>avoid things that hurt it. You just have to know

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<v Speaker 5>the lists. And quite frankly, both seven year olds know

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<v Speaker 5>the list right right as you do tackle football, they'll

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<v Speaker 5>probably go No, probably not good for your.

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<v Speaker 1>Brain, professor, boxing not great.

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<v Speaker 5>Boxing's not good, not sleeping, alcohol, nicotine, ultra processed foods.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, I went to my when my daughter was

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<v Speaker 5>in second grade. I went to her class and I

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<v Speaker 5>wrote down twenty things on the board and I went

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<v Speaker 5>separate these good for the brain or bad for it,

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<v Speaker 5>and they got nineteen right.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing.

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<v Speaker 5>They missed was orange juice, which they put in the

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<v Speaker 5>good category, but ultimately is way too much sugar because

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<v Speaker 5>when you unwrap fruit sugar from its fiber source, it

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<v Speaker 5>actually turns toxic in the body.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. I want to, just before we move on,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to something that I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners are going to say alcohol. When you say alcohol,

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<v Speaker 1>is it a zero sum game or is it a

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<v Speaker 1>moderate sum game? Where do you lie on this?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't drink I think I don't drink.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's poison. It's like, why would you drink poison?

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<v Speaker 5>And the American Cancer Society actually said it best. I've

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<v Speaker 5>been railing against alcohol for thirty years just because I

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<v Speaker 5>look at the brains of people who are regular drinkers.

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<v Speaker 4>Their brain is smaller.

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<v Speaker 5>And when it comes to the brain, size matters, right,

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<v Speaker 5>it's the only organ wear size matters. And so the

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<v Speaker 5>American Cancer Society a couple of years ago came out

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<v Speaker 5>against any alcohol because any alcohol is associated with an

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<v Speaker 5>increased risk of seven different types of cancer. Cancer is

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<v Speaker 5>clearly bad for your brain. Right, the stress, chemotherapy and

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<v Speaker 5>so on, and if you just think about it, and

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<v Speaker 5>the pandemic was so instructive. Jim Beam, the whiskey company,

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<v Speaker 5>turned its whiskey plants into hand sanitizer plants. Why because

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<v Speaker 5>alcohols are disinfectant. Well, in your mouth and in your gut,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a hundred trillion bugs, bacteria, viruses, fungi. You

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<v Speaker 5>need them. They're important. They support you. They make nerve transmitters,

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<v Speaker 5>they digest your food, they detoxify your body, they support

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<v Speaker 5>your immune system. Let's not pour a disinfectant down our throats.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just's not a good idea. On top of which,

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<v Speaker 5>as a psychiatrist, every week, every week, one of my

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<v Speaker 5>patients is talking to me about something bad that happened

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<v Speaker 5>with alcohol. Whenever I go to a party, my father

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<v Speaker 5>in law gets drunk and then they start telling all

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<v Speaker 5>the things I told him, you know, in confidence. And

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's just people's level of decision making drops

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<v Speaker 5>when alcohol is around.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's very normalized, you know. I mean it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're here. Yeah, there's nothing for me to say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I know all this is true, and yet I do

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<v Speaker 3>want a glass of wine. It's so hard. Is wine

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<v Speaker 3>better than alcohol?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell the Italians of the Greeks.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a habit that. And you know, if you go

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<v Speaker 5>to the Bible, the first story of somebody drunk in

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<v Speaker 5>the Bible caused generations of problems. It was Noah after

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<v Speaker 5>the Arc, you know, found some grapes after the flood

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<v Speaker 5>and got drunk, and his child found him and then

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<v Speaker 5>he cursed his child.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Jesus never turned wine into water.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask one question though, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen that docuseries The Blue Zone on Netflix that

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<v Speaker 2>got pretty popular. And when that gentleman went to Greece

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<v Speaker 2>to the Blue Zone and grease where people were living

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<v Speaker 2>well into their hundreds and in Italy they were drinking

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<v Speaker 2>wine every day.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is the why is that working in those environments?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it's a very small amount.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Plus they're doing other things right, got it right?

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<v Speaker 5>And so if like I did the big NFL study

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<v Speaker 5>when the NFL was sort of lying and had a

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<v Speaker 5>problem about traumatic brain injury and football, and still I

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<v Speaker 5>have active NFL players that I adore, and I'm like, look,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're going to do something bad, you better do

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<v Speaker 5>everything else right, Yeah, because that's clearly bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And there before we jump on there's a major subject

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to eventually. But in the realm

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<v Speaker 1>of super foods, things that we can do right, because Lauren.

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<v Speaker 3>Has met and walnuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day I'm eating tuper zil nuts and some walnuts

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, asa ebowl because that's a what are

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<v Speaker 1>the what are the real superfoods where you're like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is great brain food, take this daily.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think nuts, of course, without sugar on them.

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<v Speaker 5>I think nuts are superfood. Berries are a super food,

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<v Speaker 5>but they have to be organic. So just a little

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<v Speaker 5>asterisk because non organic berries hold more pesticides.

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<v Speaker 4>Than almost any fruit. I think green.

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<v Speaker 5>Leafy vegetables, wild salmon eggs are a superfood.

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<v Speaker 4>In my mind, as long as you know they're raised

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<v Speaker 4>in a healthy way.

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<v Speaker 5>And ultimately we are all creatures of habit and you

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<v Speaker 5>just have to find twenty foods you love that love

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<v Speaker 5>you back. And so if you think about the relationship,

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to say that about alcohol, you love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Lauren, if you've ever been in a

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<v Speaker 5>bad relationship in the past, I know I have. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not doing that anymore. I'm like married to my best friend,

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<v Speaker 5>and I protect that relationship. I love her, she loves me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to love stuff that hates.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, that beats me out, But so I love that

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<v Speaker 2>I love I protect her, she protects me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna that's just sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what we interrupted you it was brain. The three

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<v Speaker 2>things were brain envy, you got to care and the things.

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<v Speaker 3>That hurt it. And what's the third one?

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<v Speaker 5>Do things that help it on a regular basis. You're

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<v Speaker 5>on a better memory tomorrow, go to better half an

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<v Speaker 5>hour early tonight without your gadgets. And I have a

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<v Speaker 5>mnemonic that I write about in all my books called

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<v Speaker 5>bright minds. You want to keep your brain healthy or

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<v Speaker 5>rescue it. You have to prevent or treat the eleven

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<v Speaker 5>major risk factors that steal your mind. And we know

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<v Speaker 5>what they are, so bright minds. B is for blood flow.

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<v Speaker 5>Low blood flows the number one brain imaging predictor of

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<v Speaker 5>Alzheimer's disease. Well, how do you know if you have

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<v Speaker 5>low blood float, Well you can come get a scan,

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<v Speaker 5>we would tell you. Or if you're smoking, if you're

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<v Speaker 5>using marijuana, alcohol, low blood flow, if you're sedentary, if

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<v Speaker 5>you have high blood pressure or rectial dysfunction, if you

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<v Speaker 5>have blood flow problems anywhere, they're everywhere. And so a

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<v Speaker 5>brain health program people's love, love lives get better. And

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<v Speaker 5>so to increase blood floats, exercise and beats and regano

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<v Speaker 5>and rosemary and cinema and Genko. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 5>supplements is Genko. The R is for retirement and aging.

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<v Speaker 5>When you stop learning, your brain starts dying. So always

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<v Speaker 5>be engaged with something interesting. Eyes for inflammation, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know ultra processed foods low may get three fatty acids.

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<v Speaker 5>But the sleeper with inflammation is gum disease. If you

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<v Speaker 5>have gum disease, you have brain disease. And so just

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<v Speaker 5>getting into the dentis getting your teeth claimed. Flossing regularly

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely critical to brain health.

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<v Speaker 4>The geusgenetics know what's.

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<v Speaker 5>In your family. So do either of you have stuff

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<v Speaker 5>in your family? I have obesity and heart disease, but

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<v Speaker 5>either of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I have heart disease on my dad's side.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, So you and I should be in a

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<v Speaker 5>heart disease prevention program every day of our lives. And

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<v Speaker 5>I adopted my two nieces and both their parents. Both

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<v Speaker 5>of their parents are drug addicts. And you know, I'm hammering.

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<v Speaker 5>They're fourteen and nineteen, Like you should be on an

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<v Speaker 5>addiction prevention program every day of your life.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, people go, but what about moderation. That

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<v Speaker 4>thought is.

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<v Speaker 5>The gateway to hell because it's like, oh, I'm about

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<v Speaker 5>to cheat. Whenever you say, well, everything in moderation just

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<v Speaker 5>means you're about to do a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That into everything in moderation is a gateway to hell. Okay, yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>The age has had trauma, major cause of psychiatric problems.

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<v Speaker 5>Protect your head. Stop texting while you're driving or walking

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<v Speaker 5>for goodness sakes.

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<v Speaker 6>Tea is talks, and so we talked about alcohol and drugs.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's also the toxins in your products that you

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<v Speaker 6>put on your body.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you've seen this app called Think Dirty.

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<v Speaker 5>It allows you to scan your personal products and I'll

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<v Speaker 5>tell you, on a scale of one to ten how

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<v Speaker 5>quickly they're killing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow ssha.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a big fan of detoxes. I think your

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<v Speaker 5>life should be a detox.

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<v Speaker 2>I use the Yuka app. Yuka It's similar. You scan

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<v Speaker 2>everything and it tells you if they're hazardous. Everything's in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that right. So there's also one by I

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<v Speaker 4>Think EWG and it just is information for people to

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<v Speaker 4>actually read the labels. And then the amin Bright Minds

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<v Speaker 4>is mental health stuff, and I teach people to kill

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<v Speaker 4>the ants, the automatic negative thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>Its steel your happiness. There's nowhere in school where they

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<v Speaker 5>taught us not to believe every stupid thing we think.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's learning how to direct your mind. The second

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<v Speaker 5>eye is for immunity and infections. COVID unleashed a mental

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<v Speaker 5>health pandemic, not only because of the isolation, fear, and

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<v Speaker 5>poor public policy.

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<v Speaker 4>The virus itself.

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<v Speaker 5>Causes inflammation in the brain and increases anxiety and depression.

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<v Speaker 5>So you've seen gen z go. You know skyrocketing mental

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<v Speaker 5>health problems. Well, part of that is just inflammation from

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<v Speaker 5>the virus itself. That N is neuro hormone changes. Your

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<v Speaker 5>hormones are so important you should get them tested and

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<v Speaker 5>optimized yearly. D is diabesity. We all know not eighty

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<v Speaker 5>percent of Americans or overweight or obese. I published three

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<v Speaker 5>studies that say, is your weight goes up, the size

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<v Speaker 5>and function of the brain goes down. And now we're

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<v Speaker 5>in this body positivity movement where you can't say anything.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, no, no, no, know the truth and the

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<v Speaker 5>truth will set you free. Are we need to do

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<v Speaker 5>a much better job at getting people to a healthy

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<v Speaker 5>weight underweight. It's clearly bad for you being overweight. If

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<v Speaker 5>you're overweight, you have seven of these eleven risk factors. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, the fat on your body increases inflammation, storage,

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<v Speaker 5>talks and changes your hormones and so on. And then

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<v Speaker 5>the S is for sleep, which just needs to be

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<v Speaker 5>a priority for all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, the COVID thing is blowing my mind. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had never heard that about the virus, that it

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<v Speaker 2>creates that much brain inflammation.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that so?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just using everything else you've just talked about

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<v Speaker 2>to try to get that down. Or is there one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to fight the inflammation COVID's causing that you think

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<v Speaker 2>people need to be doing.

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<v Speaker 5>So I really like hercumans and quercetin and omega three

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<v Speaker 5>fatty acids and vitamin D to sort of help put

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<v Speaker 5>out the fire inflammation. And then of course you want

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<v Speaker 5>to be on a story diet. You want to kill

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<v Speaker 5>sugar and foods that quickly turn to sugar and people

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<v Speaker 5>go co carbs are not the enemy, and they're not.

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<v Speaker 5>It's high glycemic, low fiber carbs they're the enemy. There's

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<v Speaker 5>the study from the Male Clinic where people who are

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<v Speaker 5>on a fat based diet at forty two percent less

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<v Speaker 5>risk of getting Alzheimer's disease, but people who are on

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<v Speaker 5>a simple carbohydrate diet thing bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, fruit, juice,

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<v Speaker 5>sugar had a four hundred percent increase risk of getting

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<v Speaker 5>Alzheimer's disease. All this continuous glucose monitoring craze that we're

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<v Speaker 5>in now, I like it because it's just telling people

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<v Speaker 5>blood sugar is important, and you know it's one of

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<v Speaker 5>the eleven diabesity. It's being overweight or having hot blood sugar.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want that because diabetes and pre diabetes delay

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<v Speaker 5>healing and reacavoc on every organ in your body, especially

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<v Speaker 5>your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you fall on some of the carbs that

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<v Speaker 2>I've that you've just mentioned, but I've hurt, like like

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I hear people.

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<v Speaker 3>Really advocate for sourdough bread like this is.

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<v Speaker 2>A great bread to eat, or like the much better

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<v Speaker 2>quality pasta you'd find in Italy that we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Italy, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 5>So many of my patients, I think, even myself when

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<v Speaker 5>I go over there, because of the walking and because

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<v Speaker 5>it's not genetically modified and are raised with all the

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<v Speaker 5>chemicals ours, is it just it seems to be better.

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<v Speaker 5>But you still, you know, America has exported our obesity crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>It's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you.

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<v Speaker 5>Think of the Mediterranean diet, it's not pasta and pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>So, doctor, one thing I really wanted to dive in

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<v Speaker 1>with you is something that is so big today, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is depression and the prescription of antidepressants. It is

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<v Speaker 1>Laura and I were talking before you came on. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to me, the math isn't mathing. We are

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<v Speaker 1>prescribing these kids so much medication, and yet mental health

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<v Speaker 1>is off the charts, meaning bad problems. Suicide rates are skyrocketing.

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<v Speaker 1>So the more we are prescribing all this stuff, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the end result and that this thing is

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<v Speaker 1>being measured and weighed out.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you're absolutely correct. Prozac was released in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 5>eight and since then depression has gone up five hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's a mess. We're in a mental mess.

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<v Speaker 5>Gen Z in particular, of fifty seven percent of teenage

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<v Speaker 5>girls report being persistently sad, thirty two percent have thought

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<v Speaker 5>of killing themselves. Think of that, twenty four percent of

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<v Speaker 5>planned and thirteen percent of actually attempted suicide. These are

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<v Speaker 5>numbers we have never seen before. And last year there

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<v Speaker 5>were three hundred and thirty seven million prescriptions for antidepressants.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty five percent of women in the United States are

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<v Speaker 5>taking them. I mean, these are really insane numbers. And

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<v Speaker 5>most people get prescribed psychiatric drugs without anybody ever looking

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<v Speaker 5>at their brain.

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<v Speaker 4>And I noticed this like thirty five years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, why are psychiatrists the only medical doctors who

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<v Speaker 5>never look at the organ? They treat If you just

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<v Speaker 5>think about that, then you diagnoses based on symptom clusters

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<v Speaker 5>with no biological data.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't have.

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<v Speaker 5>To go, oh, you know, your brain's not really very healthy.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's get your brain healthy and see if your mood

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<v Speaker 5>would be healthy or your thought patterns are really not

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<v Speaker 5>helping you. Let's work to train your brain to be

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<v Speaker 5>more positive. I'm doing a study now on negativity bias.

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<v Speaker 5>So if your brain tends to go to what's wrong

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<v Speaker 5>much faster than to what's right, it puts you at

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<v Speaker 5>risk for virtually every psychiatric illness. So I start my

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<v Speaker 5>days today is going to be a great day, and

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<v Speaker 5>when I go to bed at night, I go what

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<v Speaker 5>went well today? And I'm very serious about noticing even

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<v Speaker 5>the micro moments of happiness, So and talking to you

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<v Speaker 5>guys will make my highlight real tonight. It's so important

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<v Speaker 5>to notice what you like about yourself and about other

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<v Speaker 5>people more than what you don't look.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sounds like you feel like antidepressants are being overprescribed.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think some people would say, oh no, we

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<v Speaker 2>just were finally diagnosing it, but you feel it's overprescribed.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that's nuts.

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<v Speaker 5>We're twenty five percent of women are on antidepressants. And

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<v Speaker 5>did you know, like I said, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 5>six kids, five of them are girls. Birth control pills

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<v Speaker 5>spike depression. Birth control pills increase the risk of depression

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<v Speaker 5>by forty percent. And I can just tell, like when

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<v Speaker 5>my twenty year old went on and I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 5>my god, she's such a different feman. And when she

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<v Speaker 5>went off, she was just like herself. Wow, very few

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<v Speaker 5>people are talking about I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was on birth control in my twenties. No one ever

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<v Speaker 2>told me this is going to increase your risk of depression.

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<v Speaker 2>Which it feels like almost any medication you see a

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<v Speaker 2>commercial for increase risk of depression is a side effect

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<v Speaker 2>they say in the commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and if they say everything like that, oh it

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<v Speaker 1>may increase your risk of depression. But if someone said

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<v Speaker 1>it may increase it forty percent, that's the flip of

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<v Speaker 1>a coin. Essentially, that is different than oh it may.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think about myself as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>If my parents, like, if I was a teenager today

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<v Speaker 2>and if my parents had taken me to see someone,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I could have feasibly been prescribed and antidepressant.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I look back, I was just a really

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<v Speaker 2>I feel I was just a really hormonal, dramatic tea

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<v Speaker 2>tenager and I kind of eventually grew out of that phase.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess that was something I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you about because I don't want to make light of

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<v Speaker 2>like like you just said that, I never had suicidal thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought about that, And I hear from these

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<v Speaker 2>kids that they are really really dealing with that. But

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<v Speaker 2>as a parent, how do you navigate I have a

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<v Speaker 2>very hormonal teenager whose brain isn't fully developed yet. They're

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<v Speaker 2>telling me they have these issues, and as a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>you're scared, right, you don't want to risk that you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't address an issue your teenager has.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you navigate that?

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<v Speaker 2>But while still having the spear in your head of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>should my kid really be on all this medication because

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<v Speaker 2>that's scary too.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm not a posed to medicine. I'm just posed

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<v Speaker 5>to that's the first and only thing. Yeah, you think about.

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<v Speaker 4>So for example, saffron the spice.

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<v Speaker 5>Saffron as this supplement twenty five randomized control trials showing

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<v Speaker 5>it's equally effective to antype essence. So why wouldn't we

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<v Speaker 5>do and head to head against antidepressants. Exercise walking like

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<v Speaker 5>you're late for forty five minutes, four times a week

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<v Speaker 5>Omega three fatty acids head to head against prozac was

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<v Speaker 5>more effective in a study from New Zealand, learning how

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<v Speaker 5>to not believe every stupid thing you think. Cognitive behavior

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<v Speaker 5>therapy equally effective to antidepressants.

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<v Speaker 4>So before you do meds, walk like.

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<v Speaker 5>You're late, forty five minutes, four times a week, take

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<v Speaker 5>saffron omega three fatty acids, and whenever you feel sad, mad, nervous,

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<v Speaker 5>or out of control, right down what you're thinking and

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 5>then just ask yourself whether or not it's true. I

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 5>have this whole process on how to kill the ends,

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 5>the automatic negative thoughts, getting skill in managing your mind

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 5>and your body. Your brain and your body should be

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 5>found days. And if we did just those things, we

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<v Speaker 5>would cut antidepressing use in half, doctor Amand there are

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of parents listening to this who have kids

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 5>who have been prescribed indepressants and other drugs. Has it

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 5>been over prescribed? Is this a life sentence? Are they

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 5>going to be on it for the rest of their lives? Well,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 5>so right away you can walk like you're late, You

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 5>can introduce exercise right away and it's free right away.

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 5>You can have them take Omega three fatty acids not

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 5>very expensive, right away. You can introduce saffron. Now, of

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 5>course you should talk to your doctor about it. If I

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 5>say that, then I go, well, most doctors don't know that,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 5>but right away, you can do those simple things right away.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 5>And I think all of us, I actually think it

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 5>should be a class taught in grade school, middle school,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 5>and high school. Teach kids how to manage their minds,

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 5>simple cognitive therapy principles in schools. And then if they

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 5>get stable and they're better and they don't think of

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 5>marijuana as innocuous or alcohol is a healthy right, Let's

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 5>get the brain as healthy and clean as it can be.

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 5>Then work with your doctor and exactly as you said,

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 5>if you're on anti depressants and you just stop them,

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 5>you can go through withdrawal. And what I do because

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 5>at aim in Clinics, I have eleven clinics around the country,

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 5>we spend more time taking people off meds than putting

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 5>them on meds. And so it's like we'll cut it

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<v Speaker 5>in a half and we'll do that for a couple

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 5>of months and then we'll cut it in a quarter

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 5>and do that for a couple of months and everything

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 5>is okay, then we'll stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hate that what you just said is revolution.

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>That is sad to me that at aim in Clinics

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>we are trying to get more people off of medication

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>than getting them on it. And it is our whole

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>medical industry is based on the opposite, which is terrifying.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.959
<v Speaker 5>It's because medicine has been taken over by business people

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 5>and the goal is for pharmaceutical companies and many doctors,

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 5>it's not to be in the order business. It's to

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 5>be in the reorder.

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>The lifelong customer business.

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Because what's interesting is we talk to a lot of

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>women and they're like, well, I'm on antidepressants, but I

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>don't even know. Am I supposed to just stay on

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>these for the rest of my life. It's there's no goal.

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 4>The role when I.

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 5>Was in training was stay on it for about nine months.

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 5>If this is your first episode, then slowly go off.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 4>If it's your.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Second episode, do it for about two years to sort

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 5>of reset things, and then slowly ring yourself off. And

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 5>if it's your third episode, maybe you should be on

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 5>it for the rest of your life. I find that

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<v Speaker 5>is true for such few people enough I can get

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 5>them to love and care for their brain.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, well, and what about that we're like, we're talking

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>about so many teenagers and young people are getting prescribed this,

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>these medicines, but.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Their brains are still developing, developing. I could be wrong.

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 3>You tell me.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Is it that your your frontal the front part of

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 2>your brain isn't fully developed until you're twenty six?

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, about twenty five for girls, in twenty seven or

0:32:56.000 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 5>so for boys. And you know, I love lord your story.

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 5>It's like, you know, I was sort of an emotional,

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 5>hormonal teenager and then I outgrew it. It's it's very

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 5>common for teenage girls and boys to be hormonal and

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 5>emotional because your brain is undergoing wild development. And then

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 5>about your middle twenties, if you've been good to your brain,

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 5>it sort of finishes. And you know, I tell so

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 5>many of my parents of eighteen year olds I treat

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 5>I said, let's just get them safely to least twenty

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 5>five in national again, and things will be better. But

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 5>the problem is is we're drugging these kids because psychiatrists

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 5>and most family doctors, that's the tool, right, that's the

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 5>tool in the toolbox, so they use it, but it's

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 5>at society's detriment. The big mission I have in life

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 5>is to end the concept of mental illness and create

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 5>a revolution in brain health because I think, well, one,

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 5>nobody really wants to see a psychiatrist. I told my

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 5>dad I wanted to be a psychiatrist. He asked me

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 5>why I didn't want to be a real doctor. Why

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to be a nut doctor and hang out

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.959
<v Speaker 5>with nuts all day long. So he didn't get Father

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 5>of the Aar award, but Stigmas still lives. Nobody wants

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 5>to see a psychiatrist. Everybody wants a better brain.

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 4>What if mental health was brain health?

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 5>If we just got that one concept through our culture.

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 5>That's why I always loved being a doctor Phil because

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 5>he helps me with that. We get that one idea

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 5>through our culture, everything changes because if it's brain, you

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 5>have to eat for your brain, you have to sleep

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 5>for your brain, you have to stop poisoning your brain.

0:34:56.160 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 2>How important is because you have these eleven clinics. Obviously

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 2>getting a brain scan is not like part of our

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, immunizations and things like that that we get

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>as kids.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>How much do you.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Want that to be part of standard healthcare? And how

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 2>often can we get brain scans? I don't know if

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>there's a certain number you can get kind of the

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>way you should be careful with MRIs, I don't know.

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Psychiatry should not be the only medical specialty that never

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 5>looks at the organ it treats. So think about that.

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 5>If you're going to go on to medicine and the

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 5>doctor said, well, you may need this for the rest

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 5>of your life, wouldn't you want to know ahead of

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 5>time what your brain look like. I mean, the whole

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 5>conversation I think is insane. And with spec because it's

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 5>a nuclear study, there is some radiation about the same

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 5>as a head ct that you know. We usually start

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 5>with two and then I may do one or two

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 5>in the next two or three years to go how

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 5>am I doing? And maybe every five years. So it's

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 5>not something you do without thought. But if you're dating

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 5>any of my kids, you're getting scanned.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>By the way, have you rejected anyone? Have you done

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the scan and told one of your kids, no, he

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>can't date that person?

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:18.439
<v Speaker 5>I did?

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 4>You did?

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 5>He didn't listen to me, and it was a disaster.

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 4>So regrets it. I'm like, I think she's doing drugs.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 4>So and we never said. One of my son laws mother.

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 5>Has paranoid schizophrenia and his father killed himself and the

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 5>scan doesn't disqualify people. But I'm like, oh, you need

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 5>to take this seriously. And he actually wrote a book

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 5>called Change Your Brain Before twenty five where he opens

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 5>the book with our interaction of you know, with his

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 5>skin and his brain.

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's funny what you're saying is seems so common sense.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>It says, if I tore my acl or I broke

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>my arm and a doctor goes, okay, I'll operate, I'm like, well,

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>do you want to see it? Do you want to

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>look at it? Do you even know what arm it is?

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way psychiatry is acting. It's like, well,

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>just just tell me what's wrong, and I'll tell you

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do.

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 3>We're only going to tell you my symptoms.

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, do you all even want to see me?

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>It is amazing that you're not seeing the organ that

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>we're treating it. That I've never really heard it put

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>like that, and it really does hit home.

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 5>It's insane what's happened. And I'm just prayan and I

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 5>live long enough to see it change.

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Well, thank you for all you're doing.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I did want to ask you because I follow you

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram and there were a couple quick questions I

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>had about some of the high profile brains you scanned.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I saw you scanned Nick Cannon's brain and you told

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>him he had to many children. No, I'm not if

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Nick Cannon has to get the brain scan of all

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the people his kids are going to be, that's so

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>many scans, so many scans. No, you told him that

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>he had some brain damage, but I didn't understand where

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that came from, like if he'd had an injury or

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>It made me wonder, can we all have brain damage

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 2>without like having had a major brain injury or an

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 2>episode of some kind.

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 3>What is that damage that's potentially there?

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 5>Now?

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 4>He had physical damage from.

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 3>An accident from an accident, okay, and.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 5>He also had add which might fit the commitment issues.

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 5>But you know, two his credit, he's like, I'm.

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Going to be serious about having a better brain.

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 5>I love and you know I love you know all

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 5>of my patients. But you know, some of my athletes,

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 5>for example, they like being coached. It's like tell me

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 5>what to do. We're not telling people what to do

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 5>in a way they can hear.

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And then I saw that you work with Miley Cyrus

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and she just want her first Grammy and she's killing it,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and I know you'd really worked with her on her

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.479
<v Speaker 2>goals and her success. I loved what you've been saying

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>about how to keep your brain happy. What are some

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>of the things you do with people to help them

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>get towards their goals in terms of how they're working

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.399
<v Speaker 2>with their brain to that success they want.

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Well, the first thing is to define your goals. You know,

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 4>with Miley, it's like you have to be the.

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 5>CEO, and I teach them how to act like a

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 5>CEO of their life, which means, of course, you have

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 5>to take care of your frontal lobes because that's called

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 5>the executive part of the brain. It's the CEO part

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 5>of your life. You know, what do you want? Does

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 5>your behavior.

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Fit what you want? Is this good for your brain

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 4>or bad for it?

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 5>And you know, I've worked with her for twelve years,

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 5>so I'm so happy with her progress. And you know,

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 5>sometimes it just takes a while to kick in, and

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 5>it's certainly been with my leg, but she's a warrior

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 5>for her yeah, yeah, and Flowers. You know the song

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 5>that one song of the year, it's about self love.

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.439
<v Speaker 2>And just I'm such a fan of hers, So thank

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you for your work because I love her music and

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>her I'm off of what you just said, the frontal

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 2>lobe thing. I'm going to ask what might be a

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>bold question, if our front lobe is the CEO of

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 2>our brain, and if it is not developed until we're

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty five for women, twenty six, twenty seven for men,

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 2>should we not be making any major life decisions before

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 2>that time? Like, by that, I mean a lot of

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>people get married in their early twenties.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I did.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I got married at twenty four and guess what, I

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 2>got divorced. He got married at twenty two and he's divorced.

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 2>We are kind of making these huge decisions and that

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 2>really early period. I mean, legally we're considered adults at eighteen,

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 2>but our brains aren't fully developed.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 3>So does this make sense the way our society is operating.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 5>In that way? Yeah, I think it's insane. You send

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 5>eighteen year olds away to school with other underdeveloped brains

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 5>in dormitory sororities and fraternities. With a lot of alcohol

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 5>and drugs. When you really sort of step back from

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 5>a neuroscientist's perspective, you're like, that's ludicrous. You know, that's

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 5>why there's a high incidence of depression when kids go

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 5>away or suicidal behavior when kids go away. And I've

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 5>argued for many years keep them close, wow, because.

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Their brains aren't developed.

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 5>And I know, and when I was eighteen, I told

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 5>my dad I could do anything I wanted. I was eighteen,

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 5>ended up in the army as an infantry medic and

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, how did that happen? It's because he told

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<v Speaker 5>me I.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't do it because we're rebellious then too. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So when do you think is a good time people

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<v Speaker 2>should get married brain wise?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think middle twenties, when your brain's getting close

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<v Speaker 5>or toward the end of your twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, everybody's.

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<v Speaker 5>Different, and you know it has cultural implications as well,

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<v Speaker 5>but you want marriage is hard with a good brain.

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<v Speaker 5>It's harder with an underdeveloped brain, or it's harder with

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<v Speaker 5>a traumatized brain, or it's harder with a toxic brain.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, I often wanted to do a program called

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<v Speaker 5>brainmatch dot com, where I could, you know, scan everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's get that show on Merit.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, which brain would I want?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that's coming to you next to next year

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<v Speaker 1>up on marriat Street Media.

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<v Speaker 2>When you scanned your wife's brain when you were three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks into dating, What did you like about it? What

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<v Speaker 2>made you say I want to keep dating this person?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I could actually see the injury that happened to

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<v Speaker 4>her brain. She was going seventy five miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 4>Sister fell asleep, but the whale and flipped three times,

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<v Speaker 4>so I could see that.

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<v Speaker 5>But overall it was really healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I loved about.

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<v Speaker 5>Her still like about her is she was curious about

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<v Speaker 5>it and she wanted it to be better. She's a

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<v Speaker 5>neurosurgical I see you nurse, so we sort of bonded

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<v Speaker 5>over the brain. But she didn't take it as weird

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<v Speaker 5>or invasive. She's like, oh, how can I make this better?

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, since we've been married, she has written eight

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<v Speaker 5>cookbooks for me and wrote a wonderful book called The

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<v Speaker 5>Relentless Courage of a Scared Child.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, before we let you go. The parents out there

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<v Speaker 1>have their kids and they're thinking, Okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take this brain health so much more serious. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to say this, but I would say the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the doctors and psychiatrists that maybe our kids are going

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<v Speaker 1>to are not helpful. Do we find these clinics? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you have eleven clinics around, but if we can't

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<v Speaker 1>find one of those, what is a way to find

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<v Speaker 1>good brain health doctors?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think a good place to start.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a brand new book called Raising Mentally Strong Kids,

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<v Speaker 5>and I talk a lot about raising brain healthy kids.

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<v Speaker 5>They can also get my book Change Your Brain every Day,

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<v Speaker 5>which is just sort of simple daily practices to optimize

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<v Speaker 5>your brain. And we have a brain Health network, so

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<v Speaker 5>if they go to Amanclinics dot com, they can find

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<v Speaker 5>out where we're located and where some of the people

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<v Speaker 5>I've trained or located.

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<v Speaker 1>We Laura and I are coming in.

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<v Speaker 3>We're got to get scanned. You have one in Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>I do have a clinic in Las Colinists in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 5>right down.

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<v Speaker 1>The street from Merritt Street Media.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Come in us and Phil, Although did you already scan

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Phil's brain?

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<v Speaker 4>Now? I want to okay, so forward.

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<v Speaker 2>And doctor Amin. I just want to end on a

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<v Speaker 2>note of I think. I hope I'm understanding this right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming from a hopeful place. It sounds like you're saying, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>change your brain and treat your brain.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we reverse damage in our brains. If somebody's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe feels like they've drank too much, if they've done

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<v Speaker 2>damage in certain ways, can we fix that? Or is

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<v Speaker 2>the brain like you did it and now it's done.

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<v Speaker 5>Change your brain, change your life. You're not stuck with

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<v Speaker 5>the brain you have. You could make it better. I

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't prove it.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing. Thank you so much. This has truly been such

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<v Speaker 3>a dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I've been following you, and guys, follow

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Amen on Instagram because he is just constantly posting quick,

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<v Speaker 2>helpful videos, amazing insight. It's I've been following you for

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<v Speaker 2>two years now and I just love following you.

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<v Speaker 3>So thanks for all you do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I heard your relaunching your podcast I just saw today,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll be excited to see that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>What a joy. Looking to meeting you guys in person.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. And you're in California.

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<v Speaker 5>I am, I'm in Newport Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, we're going to have to stalk you and

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<v Speaker 2>come to Dallas and do some stuff at work next

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<v Speaker 2>time you're in for Merritt Damon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time. Truly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're welcome, take.

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<v Speaker 1>Care, We'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye.

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