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Speaker 1: All right, welcome into another edition of the Patriots Training
Speaker 1: Camp Cast. I'm Mike do So, joined by Evan Lazar
Speaker 1: and Paul Perrillo. And guys, we just got off the
Speaker 1: field from the fourth practice the Patriots have had this summer.
Speaker 1: We made a day off yesterday, and guys, it kind
Speaker 1: of felt a little bit signs of life from the offense.
Speaker 1: I know it's been a little bit bumpy here early on,
Speaker 1: but Paul, I felt like the offense it made some
Speaker 1: place today. It wasn't overwhelming, but there were some moments. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought the first time we got a chance to
Speaker 3: see some one on one work, and I thought the
Speaker 3: receivers did a pretty good job of consistently creating some separation.
Speaker 3: I thought Jalen Rager, Kayshaon Boody, a Javon Baker, I
Speaker 3: thought those guys were consistently getting open and making some
Speaker 3: catches in that setting. I think when it got to
Speaker 3: seven on seven and eleven on eleven, it was a
Speaker 3: little bit more on even the way we've kind of
Speaker 3: seen the first three days. But yeah, signs of life,
Speaker 3: I would I would agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I talk about Javon Baker because I know he's
Speaker 1: standing out to you today. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought he was open the entire practice, and I
Speaker 2: was actually watching him on a couple of the eleven
Speaker 2: on eleven reps away from the ball when he wasn't
Speaker 2: being targeted, and I thought he was giving defenders problems.
Speaker 2: And we've all said it and I feel like it
Speaker 2: holds true from what we thought in the draft. Just
Speaker 2: an explosive athlete kind of is a little bit twitchier,
Speaker 2: moves a little bit faster than some of the other
Speaker 2: guys that have been out there. Nothing against Jalen Polk,
Speaker 2: who's been steady and has been able to eat up
Speaker 2: a little bit of that underneath coverage at times. But
Speaker 2: when you look for that big play down the field,
Speaker 2: we saw it yesterday from Joe Milton. Today a crossing
Speaker 2: route from Drake May, you just start to see Javon
Speaker 2: Baker pop a little bit here, and I would say,
Speaker 2: you know, after the thumb injury in the spring, now
Speaker 2: we're getting to see him come on a little bit stronger,
Speaker 2: and this is kind of what we saw at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the spring until he started getting limited by
Speaker 2: that injury. So I'm encouraged.
Speaker 1: So let's go through some housekeeping stuff. Just you know,
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore not spotted, wasn't active last couple of days.
Speaker 1: We had heard reports that he was sick. He came
Speaker 1: out last practice halfway through and Watch didn't even see
Speaker 1: him today. Marte Mapu though he did still have that
Speaker 1: same plan, came out halfway through watch practice, wasn't a participant.
Speaker 1: Sean Wade wearing a red jersey. We did see Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson now officially involved in practice, so officially off the
Speaker 1: NFI list. But guys, I go back to Barmore. I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, after that big contract this offseason, we
Speaker 1: know we're counting on him. Paul, I'm just a little
Speaker 1: disappointed not seeing him out there. Hopefully it's nothing major.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to necessarily say I'm concerned
Speaker 3: or not concerned because you just don't really know exactly
Speaker 3: what's keeping him off. You hear illness and you're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: well you know he's not feeling great. Well, you know,
Speaker 3: not that I'm comparing the two, but last year Calvin
Speaker 3: Anderson was on the NFI list with an illness that
Speaker 3: no one knew anything about at the time, and it
Speaker 3: turned out to be quite serious. So I don't want
Speaker 3: to just make nothing of it, but without knowing, it's
Speaker 3: hard to to necessarily get in a panic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just on a good news because that's kind of
Speaker 2: a downer. We have Antonio Gibson back in practice, and
Speaker 2: we've talked a ton about on the show running back
Speaker 2: depth and a lack thereof behind Ramandra Stevenson and Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 2: So definitely a sea legs practice for him. Felt like
Speaker 2: he was just getting his feet wet in practice. But
Speaker 2: it was good to see him back out there. He
Speaker 2: doesn't look any worse for the warry, so it looks
Speaker 2: like he's gonna be one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and more good news injury wise. We saw Kendrick
Speaker 3: Bourne out there in his uniform, you know, just his
Speaker 3: normal sort of exuberant self. He was bouncing around having
Speaker 3: all kinds of fun. Still a ways away, more than
Speaker 3: likely from coming off pup, but seeing him out there
Speaker 3: getting ready with the pre practice warm up with the
Speaker 3: rest of his teammates, I would say that he's probably
Speaker 3: getting to the point where he can see the light
Speaker 3: at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1: Now along the offensive line, we did see the same
Speaker 1: combination that we saw last practice, where we have Kaden
Speaker 1: Wallace the rookie on the left side, and over on
Speaker 1: the right side chooks of Corra four. So they've kind
Speaker 1: of flopped things. They've stayed there for a couple practices.
Speaker 1: We know the pads are going to come on tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so kind of hoping that maybe this is something that
Speaker 1: they feel like they can hang their hat on here
Speaker 1: early in practice and go with this unit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that would be a good development. And
Speaker 3: I did think, and you know, Evan charts all this stuff.
Speaker 3: I thought there were more plays today that weren't as
Speaker 3: disrupted by the pass rush as we've seen the first
Speaker 3: three days. So I think there was some positive signs there.
Speaker 3: And I probably think it's not a coincidence that you
Speaker 3: had the same five and maybe the cohesion was a
Speaker 3: little bit stronger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you, Paul I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily agree with the combination, but that's not my job
Speaker 2: to tell them which combination to go with, So I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily agree with the combination. I probably would have
Speaker 2: the tackles flipped. But the most important thing is having
Speaker 2: the same five guys out there. That's definitely the most
Speaker 2: important thing. And go back to an old scarnekieism, see
Speaker 2: it through the same set of eyes. And in order
Speaker 2: to build that kind of continuity that all five guys
Speaker 2: are on one string and they're all pulling the rope
Speaker 2: at the same time, you have to start repping it
Speaker 2: time and time and time again. So two days in
Speaker 2: a row now, and then we get into the pads tomorrow,
Speaker 2: hopefully it's the same five and we start to really
Speaker 2: build something there. And to Paul's point, I charted three
Speaker 2: pressures in fifteen reps during team drills. The other day
Speaker 2: it was six and fifteen, so twice as many. And
Speaker 2: then granted it's we're using our eyes and judging, and
Speaker 2: I don't have film to watch it back or anything
Speaker 2: like that, so that's all live. But I thought that
Speaker 2: there were some mishaps, but for the most part it
Speaker 2: was much cleaner.
Speaker 1: One more point for me to talk about guys is
Speaker 1: just we mentioned a few of the receivers that have been,
Speaker 1: you know, just getting open, making catches. You mentioned Baker
Speaker 1: had a good day again. Jalen Pole continues to just
Speaker 1: be targeted involved get some catches. I mean he's probably
Speaker 1: been I'd say, I mean, maybe you have it having
Speaker 1: the most targeted guy so far. But the guy I
Speaker 1: just want to talk about not really be getting much
Speaker 1: mentioned as Austin Hooper second tight end. You know, we've
Speaker 1: seen this for a few years now. They've had Hunter Henry,
Speaker 1: who's a reliable kind of guy. We've seen Mike Kasiki,
Speaker 1: We've seen John Hu Smith never really been able to
Speaker 1: find a complimentary second guy. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: buy the foolst goal because let's face it, we saw
Speaker 1: some place from John hu and Kasiki and training camp
Speaker 1: as well. But hey, let's just call it out. Nice
Speaker 1: day for Austin Hooper.
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, I thought he was active throughout. I
Speaker 3: thought one of the best plays probably that I can
Speaker 3: remember in all four days was a scene route to
Speaker 3: him in one of the team periods today. Just looked
Speaker 3: really smooth running down. There was another ball that even
Speaker 3: caught that was not anything that you would necessarily want
Speaker 3: to see in a game. It's a play that was
Speaker 3: kind of blown up, but it was about forty forty
Speaker 3: five yards downfield, tracking a ball, kind of high pointing.
Speaker 3: It really athletic play for a tight end that far downfield.
Speaker 3: So I do think you're right. You know, we said
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff about John Ui Smith a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. We said a lot of it
Speaker 3: last year about Mike Kasiki.
Speaker 2: Definitely Kiki.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we're talking about it in a different way with
Speaker 3: Austin Hooper.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The hope is that he's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: better blocker than Kasiki has been throughout his entire career,
Speaker 2: and he's got a lot of familiarity in this scheme
Speaker 2: with Alex van Pelt, so we started to talk about
Speaker 2: guys learning and having a little bit of an adjustment
Speaker 2: or in a learning curve. He's one of the guys
Speaker 2: like Jacoby Brissett that probably has no problem stepping right
Speaker 2: back to this offense. And you see that that he's
Speaker 2: in the right places and it's in rhythm, and I
Speaker 2: agree with Paul, the right over the middle of the
Speaker 2: field off play action was the cleanest play that we've
Speaker 2: seen the offense make probably in four days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know anything I missed you, guys.
Speaker 1: I mean I do want to say a new signing
Speaker 1: announced this morning to Ziah Brunson from the UFL, so
Speaker 1: adding some defensive line depth. We think hopefully that doesn't
Speaker 1: say anything about Christian Barmore's health. But otherwise, the pads
Speaker 1: are due to come on tomorrow. I anticipate it'll be
Speaker 1: an active week. We're expecting Wednesday will be the off day,
Speaker 1: so we're thinking two more days of practice, off day
Speaker 1: and then three more straight days of practice. So it's
Speaker 1: not quite real football yet, guys. But the pads coming
Speaker 1: on anything specifically you're kind of looking forward to tomorrow.
Speaker 3: For me, the number one thing I'm looking for isn't
Speaker 3: necessarily anything individual. It's how Mayo handles the pads. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, is it going to be similar so the
Speaker 3: way Bill did, because certainly toward the end there was
Speaker 3: very little contact at Patriots practices. I'll be curious to
Speaker 3: see how Girod handles it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I will obviously be looking on the offensive line
Speaker 2: and defensive line now more than we did before, and
Speaker 2: I'll have the trench reports and all that kind of
Speaker 2: stuff that I love doing. But with the receivers, I
Speaker 2: am curious to see how some of these guys that
Speaker 2: have flashed when we get to the pads, are they
Speaker 2: still productive? Are they still flashing? Jalen Rager is a
Speaker 2: guy that I think has been involved and has been active,
Speaker 2: but he tends to be a player throughout his career.
Speaker 2: Looks great in the spring, looks great in these non
Speaker 2: padded practices, and the pads come on and it's a
Speaker 2: totally different ballgame. And we were just talking to Taekwon
Speaker 2: Thornton after practice who said that he put on about
Speaker 2: seven eight pounds of muscle this offseason. He's trying to
Speaker 2: bulk up those two speed receivers. How do they look
Speaker 2: once the pads come on and the corners can get
Speaker 2: their hands on them and things like that. That's going
Speaker 2: to decide that battle at the back end of the
Speaker 2: depth chart. Not these practices. It's going to be the
Speaker 2: ones in the deep summer, you know, padded ones.
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