Speaker 1: Before we jump into all the MMA. So are we
Speaker 1: raided roll busting with the boys? We have Ryan Clark
Speaker 1: on Ryan right, and I go way back. We played
Speaker 1: one year together. That's how far back we go. Well
Speaker 1: year was that it was your last year?
Speaker 2: Thirteen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you lived thirteen for me with that was No,
Speaker 3: it wasn't it was my last year. It was your thirteen.
Speaker 3: It was two year squad, yeah, without a fourteen year though.
Speaker 3: It was my thirteenth year in the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you played thirteen years in the league.
Speaker 1: You are on how many segments on ESPN now not
Speaker 1: counting the podcast too many?
Speaker 3: I do get up first take Live Sports Center, But
Speaker 3: you know, man, ESPN, they gonna get their pound of
Speaker 3: flesh though, Like that's the way, that's the way it works,
Speaker 3: until you could be stephen A and they pay you
Speaker 3: astronomical amounts of money to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you do, you do all that stuff.
Speaker 3: You do you have face first podcast or you'll we'll
Speaker 3: get into you train dudes in the offseason or maybe
Speaker 3: all year round.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. At this point.
Speaker 1: I saw you coaching some under I saw you coaching
Speaker 1: some under armour game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, what else? What else are you doing?
Speaker 3: We should have you know, No, that's enough. I mean
Speaker 3: that's pretty much all it is. And I mean sure
Speaker 3: you know the family, and so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: How do you how do you balance everything? According to
Speaker 3: my wife, I don't, So that's the you know, So
Speaker 3: that's the big thing. Jordan's at ASU now, he plays
Speaker 3: for her, so he's going into his junior year. My
Speaker 3: oldest just graduated from LSU. She's about to start she's
Speaker 3: moving to San France and start working and do some
Speaker 3: type of course at Berkeley. And then my youngest is
Speaker 3: a junior man. So now I'm about to be an
Speaker 3: empty nester bro and like I'm just trying to figure out,
Speaker 3: like what do like normal people do, right, because my
Speaker 3: wife wants like she's like, you retired, we need to
Speaker 3: do this and like take trips. And I'm like, well
Speaker 3: that's not really how it works for us, you know,
Speaker 3: like I'm still in this, like I'm still working and
Speaker 3: so you know, you do your best to balance it, man,
Speaker 3: and I'm still still working on getting it right. Maybe
Speaker 3: you can help me with it because now you're married
Speaker 3: and stuff too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not doing near as much as I
Speaker 1: like it's admirable. I like, of course I follow you.
Speaker 1: We've been, you know, since we've played together. I followed
Speaker 1: you ever since because I feel like you were transitioning
Speaker 1: into that media world, which we'll get into. But hearing
Speaker 1: all that stuff, it reminds me of the Chevy Silverado.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear about the Chevy Silverado? Tell
Speaker 1: me about Are you a big fan of the Chevy Silverado?
Speaker 1: You are, You're a huge fan.
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan because my first car was actually
Speaker 3: a Chevy though so good.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that the strongest, most advanced Silverado ever.
Speaker 1: The Silverado is strong, advanced, dependable, hard working like Ryan
Speaker 1: Clark and the Boys, the designers, big bull commanding. This
Speaker 1: truck turns heads, a partner with grit determination, anything is
Speaker 1: possible with the Silverado.
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear a few of a few
Speaker 2: of the benefits you give with this son? You please
Speaker 2: tell me.
Speaker 1: Tailgating, hauling that new big screen, towing off, roading, moving day,
Speaker 1: helping out your friend or family member, road chips with
Speaker 1: your family. Run, You're going around, You're coaching all American games.
Speaker 1: You're doing this, you're doing that, and the fans got
Speaker 1: to jump in with you. You're going to watch your
Speaker 1: son a d ask you do it in the Chevy Silverado.
Speaker 1: Go to a Chevy dealership near you. Let them know
Speaker 1: the boys sence. You might get a free trailer hitch.
Speaker 1: We've seen him from a fan out there that they
Speaker 1: got a free trailer hitch because they said, hey, the
Speaker 1: boy sent me.
Speaker 2: You get a few benefits, you get a few perks.
Speaker 1: But Chevy Silverado, shout out the boys, no free shoutouts
Speaker 1: all the love.
Speaker 2: Now we get to a jump back. It was crazy though.
Speaker 3: I was thinking myself, Dang, I wonder if I could
Speaker 3: get a discount on a Silverado because you know, man,
Speaker 3: like I'm a truck guy now, because in my retirement
Speaker 3: I don't drive well enough to buy a car that
Speaker 3: I feel like has to be cute, right right, you
Speaker 3: get it. You get a Silverado, and it's like I
Speaker 3: could go to work, I could do these things.
Speaker 2: And I clean it up. I could take my old
Speaker 2: lady out to eat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, still be shot right, But will the busting with
Speaker 3: the boys get me a discount on a Chevy silver Rado.
Speaker 2: We can probably hook that up and someone that want
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Something I take pictures, I kiss babies.
Speaker 1: We gotta start reach out to Hey, I promise he's
Speaker 1: gonna do this, But no, man, I'm super curious because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna backpedal this entire episode because I know, like
Speaker 1: how it all started for you, very similar with being undrafted.
Speaker 1: You played thirteen years in the league, which is incredible
Speaker 1: and talking about the stuff I've learned from you and
Speaker 1: this and that, But I wanted to talk about you
Speaker 1: transitioning because I feel like I'm in the middle of transitioning.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're somebody.
Speaker 1: Who understood that they were on their back nine of
Speaker 1: their career. That's what I always refer to it as, yah,
Speaker 1: and you started to see like you know, this is
Speaker 1: gonna slow down at some point. You're somebody who was
Speaker 1: working on transitioning while you were still playing. Right, and
Speaker 1: because I remember your last year with US, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you were doing it with the Steelers before that,
Speaker 1: but you would come to OTA's Monday through Thursday, and
Speaker 1: then you would go work, yeah, and then you would
Speaker 1: fly to where was the Bristol, Yeah, Bristol to do
Speaker 1: stuff for ESPN and work on the media and everything
Speaker 1: like that, and then you would be back. You're the
Speaker 1: first one in the meeting room. You always have your
Speaker 1: nose super studious. But how did you balance and when
Speaker 1: did you start to realize like the game was coming
Speaker 1: to an end and you needed to figure out your
Speaker 1: plan beat.
Speaker 3: It was probably about about year ten, I think. I think, honestly,
Speaker 3: you should. I should have noticed before that though, Like
Speaker 3: I'm an undrafted dude, you know, worked at LSU. I
Speaker 3: was cut after my second year and had a regular job,
Speaker 3: like before Washington picked me up the first time. Man,
Speaker 3: I had just left will Muschamp's office, headed back during
Speaker 3: my lunch break, trying to be a ga, you know.
Speaker 3: But around that time I had done some first takes.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait being a ga. Like you were cut
Speaker 2: your second year?
Speaker 3: Yes, so I was cut my second year. Tom Coughlin
Speaker 3: sits in front of me.
Speaker 2: Bro second year and you had a normal job. I
Speaker 2: had a normal job. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I worked at a Tiger Athletic foundation. I was sitting
Speaker 3: on my sofa probably in like June of that year.
Speaker 3: I get a call and dude's like, hey, you want
Speaker 3: a job, And I was like, sure, what's the job?
Speaker 3: He was like a Tiger Athletic Foundations, like the fundraising,
Speaker 3: the fundraising sect of LSU, and so I started working.
Speaker 3: So I would wake up, Bro. I would wake up
Speaker 3: at four point thirty every morning, get dressed, drive from
Speaker 3: New Orleans to Baton Rouge. I'd work eight to five.
Speaker 3: I'd work. I'd work out in the weight room, which
Speaker 3: was across the way from the office I had. Then
Speaker 3: I'd drive back home, take a shower, eat, go to sleep,
Speaker 3: and do it again. I went to the office to
Speaker 3: ask much Champ. I was like, hey, man, let me
Speaker 3: know what the process is to.
Speaker 2: Be a GA.
Speaker 3: I was like, I like to be a GA. I
Speaker 3: love football, I love to coach. Walk back in the office.
Speaker 3: Agent calls me. Washington wants you to come in for
Speaker 3: a workout. Shawn t god rest is soul hurt his knee.
Speaker 3: Another guy tore his knee up because Joe Gibbs was
Speaker 3: like so ancient. They had a mini camp the day
Speaker 3: before training camp. Right, so Bo, come in, pass out
Speaker 3: the first practice, Yeah, Greg, Greg Williams forty up downs,
Speaker 3: deep ball drills, right out the gate, right, pass out.
Speaker 3: Sean Taylor comes over to me. He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: like you better do something, Bro. Like they're talking about
Speaker 3: getting you out of here. The dB coach, who is
Speaker 3: my dB coach in New York, goes, hey, man, if
Speaker 3: you don't do something in the second practice, that's what
Speaker 3: back when they had two of days, they're going to
Speaker 3: bring in somebody tomorrow. I get two picks in that practice,
Speaker 3: right and after passing right and the two for anybody
Speaker 3: who's listening, I have the sickle cell trade.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how it worked then, but now I do.
Speaker 3: I was kind of messed up, all right, But any
Speaker 3: so and so and so, yeah, bro and so you
Speaker 3: know I make the team, and you know those things
Speaker 3: are going. But like I, you know, you fast forward,
Speaker 3: I do first take and.
Speaker 2: I leave the meeting.
Speaker 3: You kind of talk about the notebook, Skip baylist man,
Speaker 3: Like we're walking out of the meeting. I go down
Speaker 3: a Sunday, watch the games Monday, I'm gonna be on
Speaker 3: the show. I walk out of the meeting. Skip Bailer
Speaker 3: stops the meeting, right, he stops everybody from walking out.
Speaker 3: And he was like, I just want y'all to know
Speaker 3: because and I want him to say it. Of every
Speaker 3: athlete or entertainer that came here, he's the most prepared,
Speaker 3: he was the most involved. He don't have my notebook
Speaker 3: everything written down.
Speaker 1: Similar to probably the way we were all preparing in football,
Speaker 1: saying they're sitting there in the beginning of the meeting Ryan,
Speaker 1: he's like the dude who comes in. Everybody knows who
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark is, but he's sitting there being like the
Speaker 1: the the example of what a coach wants, sitting there
Speaker 1: with your notebook out, ready to take notes.
Speaker 2: And had a lot of coffee that year too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, and that's kind of when you
Speaker 3: know will like, I started kind of putting feelers out
Speaker 3: seeing what I could do.
Speaker 2: Okay, now what kind of feelers? Like, what are these
Speaker 2: things that you were doing?
Speaker 3: So so so what I did was did you go.
Speaker 2: To those boots camp set thing? No, you didn't do
Speaker 2: none of that.
Speaker 3: Oh it was a stupid What I did, bro, Let
Speaker 3: me tell you about the feeler. A filler was Twitter. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: so I tweet Jeer Ten. I was like, man, if
Speaker 3: anybody needs an intern who's hard working, who's looking to
Speaker 3: start a new career, hit me up. Trey Wingo dms me.
Speaker 3: I was following Trey Wingo. Trey Wingo goes you should
Speaker 3: intern here, and I was like, y'all do y'all do that?
Speaker 3: He was like, no, but I'm sure they'll do it
Speaker 3: for you. The Super bowls in New Orleans that year,
Speaker 3: I go to a Super Bowl to work on NFL
Speaker 3: Live to kind of do a guest spot. Trey says,
Speaker 3: coming with me. Introduce me to Seth mark Man who
Speaker 3: runs NFL at ESPN, and he's like, Ryan Clark wants
Speaker 3: to do an internship. You should let him. He said,
Speaker 3: I'll take care of it. I go, I work for
Speaker 3: a week, and so usually when you go there, there's
Speaker 3: somebody who basically holds your hand as you walk.
Speaker 2: Around, right and you do it.
Speaker 3: And so this week for me, I got my emails
Speaker 3: like every other analyst, the producers reached out to me
Speaker 3: like every other analyst, and it was basically a test
Speaker 3: run for me to see if I liked it, but
Speaker 3: to see if I was good at it.
Speaker 2: I do that for a week.
Speaker 3: Bro. That next monday, I got agents calling me and
Speaker 3: one of them said, like the magic phrase, they go,
Speaker 3: I think I could get you paid to do TV
Speaker 3: while you play.
Speaker 2: I said, you won, and so.
Speaker 3: Little a little bit later they work out a deal
Speaker 3: and so basically like my last two years in the league,
Speaker 3: last with Pittsburgh the one with Washington. I lived off
Speaker 3: of TV money and just banked my football money.
Speaker 2: No ship, yep.
Speaker 1: So how stressful was it going back and forth and
Speaker 1: doing both, you know what like or was it not
Speaker 1: that bad?
Speaker 3: It's it's not bad, bro, Like you know you you
Speaker 3: do this job and I saw I think it was
Speaker 3: a Field Yates, you know, tweeted you that you're an
Speaker 3: excellent podcast or what you are, and it made me
Speaker 3: kind of proud of you because no, no, because I
Speaker 3: was like, that's not you know, I'm saying that made
Speaker 3: me proud and so but you know, like there's preparation
Speaker 3: that goes into this, but when you are on the microphone,
Speaker 3: you just you like even with the Silverado, you know,
Speaker 3: the Silverado ad like.
Speaker 2: You were just you.
Speaker 3: I know what the words say, but the words that
Speaker 3: you the way you said it was Will Compton like
Speaker 3: that's what this is. And so going up for a
Speaker 3: weekend and talking about football, which I loved, which I watched,
Speaker 3: that wasn't stressful to me. I think the it was
Speaker 3: more stressful in Pittsburgh because the first year I did it,
Speaker 3: we were zero and four to start that year, which
Speaker 3: is something that never happens in Pittsbagh.
Speaker 2: So sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1: When our first year of doing the podcast and we
Speaker 1: backlogged a lot of episodes to make us last of
Speaker 1: the year is the year I ended up playing for
Speaker 1: the Raiders, so I wasn't on the team, but until
Speaker 1: I got picked up on the Raiders, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: a Titan like I was essentially a fan of the Titans,
Speaker 1: still getting with the Titans in the bus with the boys.
Speaker 2: Titans started off like two and four.
Speaker 1: So every time the Titans lose, like, I'm sitting at
Speaker 1: home like, fuck man, I don't even want to post
Speaker 1: this stuff. And I can only imagine what it was
Speaker 1: like for probably Taylor or having to go into the
Speaker 1: facility and continue to kind of be out front of it.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, no, go ahead, I.
Speaker 3: Just kind of no, no, no, you're absolutely right. And so
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, you know what it is. It's it's one
Speaker 3: of those things. It's like, oh, you ain't focused on football,
Speaker 3: You're on TV every Tuesday, woo, and cause it's a
Speaker 3: still time, right, It's a town that's about winning championships,
Speaker 3: which I had already done, right, And also Tuto like
Speaker 3: people they tweet me that and saying that I was like,
Speaker 3: mother f I lost my spleen, my gallbladder, piece of
Speaker 3: my liver for this team, right, Like I didn't done
Speaker 3: all that, And it's always that thing, right, have a
Speaker 3: plan B. But your plan B can't be visible like
Speaker 3: mine was. You see what I'm saying, Like, say, I
Speaker 3: was doing construction in the off season. Oh, that's admirable.
Speaker 3: You know, he's doing like an everyday working man's job.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Or if I was run Clark does in the off
Speaker 1: season Bill Houses exactly, like this is so awesome.
Speaker 2: This is a man who was preparing.
Speaker 3: But since I was doing TV and it's during the season,
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, is that taking his focus? No? They
Speaker 3: just asking me questions about the freaking Pittsburgh Steelers. I
Speaker 3: know about them more than anybody, and so like that
Speaker 3: was the thing. And then and it did become it
Speaker 3: did become for me an issue because just like you know, perception,
Speaker 3: even though it's not the truth, can be reality, right,
Speaker 3: And so the perception of me throughout my career was
Speaker 3: exactly what you said.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: First in the meeting, always prepared, works extremely hard, like
Speaker 3: all these things, and it hurt me a little bit
Speaker 3: for people to think that I didn't care anymore just
Speaker 3: because I understood the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like and it sucks too, because I feel
Speaker 1: like what plays into that perception too, is because you
Speaker 1: care so much about like the team, and even though
Speaker 1: that perception, even though you know like the boys don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think that way, there's still a part of you
Speaker 1: that I know for me too, like you just lay
Speaker 1: up like, man, I hope coach or I hope you
Speaker 1: know the fellas aren't getting like any kind of wrong
Speaker 1: idea because I've read something on social media that's got
Speaker 1: me and my feeling.
Speaker 3: You internalize that, and that's the you know, like people
Speaker 3: we all want to live by like the whole we
Speaker 3: don't really care what people think. And and to an extent,
Speaker 3: I think, like I'm very much like that. But the
Speaker 3: other side of it is too is I don't, like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be misunderstood. And so we had
Speaker 3: a meeting at work one time and my boss, this
Speaker 3: is when like Jason Whitten was coming over to ESPN
Speaker 3: to do Monday night football before he had to go
Speaker 3: back to do football because he wasn't really.
Speaker 2: Good night before.
Speaker 3: He made the right scitions to go back and then
Speaker 3: never come back again. And so like he's going through
Speaker 3: like Jason Witten's ten Twitter rules or something like that, right,
Speaker 3: and so like one of the rules was, uh, don't
Speaker 3: argue with people on Twitter, and so like, you know,
Speaker 3: my boss and I love him, and I text him
Speaker 3: about it was just kind of like, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: make the joke the whole, like like like Ryan argues
Speaker 3: with guys with two followers and it's a big meeting, right.
Speaker 3: I I didn't do to him what I did to
Speaker 3: Jay Gruden that time when he was like talking subliminately
Speaker 3: about RG and I stood up and was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: we know he's talking about RG three.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I forgot about that. I was the captain.
Speaker 2: I could do what that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, sa, bro, like we know what's going on,
Speaker 3: Like come on, dog, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 3: so I didn't do that. But I text him afterwards though,
Speaker 3: you know, and I was like, look, man, who'd you
Speaker 3: text that? George my boss? I texted him, I said, Bro,
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I said, Jason Whitten is fine.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I think Jason Wittenes. This is
Speaker 3: before he started workings. I think he's a great man
Speaker 3: because he is. I've met him. I love talking to
Speaker 3: him the things he does in the community. But I
Speaker 3: was like, I ain't that dude. I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: a fighter, you know what I'm saying. And I was like,
Speaker 3: and to have a team, like, you got to have
Speaker 3: all types of people. You gotta have a dude that's
Speaker 3: gonna be calm and not get into arguments, and then
Speaker 3: you got to have a dude that when the argument start,
Speaker 3: he gonna be out front making sure everybody's good. But
Speaker 3: most of the time, bro, like I reply to these
Speaker 3: things like you could say, like when people say like mean, stupid,
Speaker 3: ignorant things about me, I don't respond to that unless
Speaker 3: like I can see their profile pick and it have
Speaker 3: some obvious deformity that I know they might be insensitive
Speaker 3: about and not like a real deformity. Yeah yeah, no,
Speaker 3: not a dog, because that's not fun.
Speaker 2: To talk about.
Speaker 3: Like if the person like it's like slightly unhandsome or
Speaker 3: slight something like that, well I could take a shot
Speaker 3: in joke. I'll do that if they say something like
Speaker 3: they cuss me or something like that. But Most of
Speaker 3: the time, I respond because the reason they hate me
Speaker 3: or dislike me or disagree with me is because they
Speaker 3: don't understand it. Like I'm cool with the fact that
Speaker 3: you don't like something I say, Like if I say
Speaker 3: something like if I say something about Josh Allen and
Speaker 3: you disagree, which Bill's Mafia does often, and you have
Speaker 3: me one hundred percent pegged the right way, Like if
Speaker 3: I say, yeah, Josh Allen, you know it wasn't great.
Speaker 3: You know, we saw him with sin, but I didn't
Speaker 3: necessarily think he was the top ten quarterback before last year.
Speaker 3: Now with Stefan Diggs, he's ascended and you get that
Speaker 3: and you're like, nah, but he was great two years ago.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, nah, you still that's not true. But
Speaker 3: I'm not mad because you understood me, like you got it.
Speaker 3: But when people like feel like you know, like sometimes
Speaker 3: I get the thing that I'm racist because I stand
Speaker 3: up for black people.
Speaker 2: No I'm not right, No I'm not you.
Speaker 3: Know, you know, like my oldest daughter's white, Like you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you know and so, but
Speaker 3: I'm not. But during twenty twenty, when I felt like
Speaker 3: it was important to speak up, I did, But because
Speaker 3: I spoke up people was like, oh, you must feel
Speaker 3: this way, and I would have to reply to that
Speaker 3: because I don't want that misconception about me. Now if
Speaker 3: you don't if you hear what I say and understand
Speaker 3: it and still don't f with me.
Speaker 2: So I don't even know you anyway, But I just don't.
Speaker 3: Want to be misunderstood because once those things get out,
Speaker 3: eventually those narrative narratives begin to carry and I don't
Speaker 3: want that.
Speaker 2: So do you feel like.
Speaker 1: It's part of the game that we are in as
Speaker 1: like in this world of social media media in general,
Speaker 1: to have like certain we call it branding, to engage
Speaker 1: with fans as well, because like you could take the
Speaker 1: rules of like the example being you a nalg of
Speaker 1: Jason Wit or don't argue with trolls or people like
Speaker 1: that on on Twitter, like me in my seat the
Speaker 1: reason I have fun and don't take it so serious
Speaker 1: and I'm out there, I'm tweeting and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't like a quarterback or like Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: who doesn't even need Twitter because whatever he does is
Speaker 1: gonna be whatever it is, It's gonna be goals, right,
Speaker 1: Like they just say it's gonna be funny because he
Speaker 1: doesn't need Twitter to build anything. But I feel like
Speaker 1: that plays into some of our branding as far as engaging,
Speaker 1: as long as we understand how to compartmentalize, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be misunderstood. But like playing in
Speaker 1: all this stuff because people like, why do you even
Speaker 1: give it? Why do even give it gas? And for
Speaker 1: me it's like, well, I mean it's gonna be funny,
Speaker 1: Like I think it comes off as funny.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I think like some of it for
Speaker 3: me is funny. Like I said, when I look at
Speaker 3: profile picks and talk, I also like to engage too,
Speaker 3: Like you know, I started a new I got a
Speaker 3: new MMA show and the comments are bad, but the
Speaker 3: dms are worse, Like straight up bro like the stuff.
Speaker 3: So no, oh man, they you stupid mother effort. You
Speaker 3: don't know nothing because you don't think Islam. Machachev's last
Speaker 3: fight against Moisis was a good fight.
Speaker 2: Now it was boring as hell, But what happens is right.
Speaker 3: I answer those questions and I have those conversations with
Speaker 3: those people because a lot of times I learned because
Speaker 3: what we know is this right, you can be as
Speaker 3: good as you and you can think you're as good
Speaker 3: as you want to be in that seat, but it's
Speaker 3: about how people see you that's eventually gonna get you
Speaker 3: paid period, right, And whether it's to hire or upstat
Speaker 3: see you or executives in different places, or it's just
Speaker 3: the feedback they get from your show and a way
Speaker 3: to show rates like that's how like like that's how
Speaker 3: like that's our value, And it's not the value that
Speaker 3: you have to internalize, right, Like, I don't have to
Speaker 3: walk out and be like, dang, I ain't worth nothing
Speaker 3: because these people don't agree.
Speaker 2: Now, it's not how it works.
Speaker 3: How it works is if they don't hate me enough
Speaker 3: to watch it and talk about it, or love me
Speaker 3: enough to watch it and talk about it, then I
Speaker 3: ain't winning.
Speaker 2: Right. Kanye, who's that crap crazy.
Speaker 3: Now right, has a line in a song that's like
Speaker 3: one of my favorite lines ever, and it's very simple.
Speaker 3: He said, everybody feel a way about yay, but at
Speaker 3: least they feel something like people can't nothing us if
Speaker 3: they just nothing us, like if they could take it
Speaker 3: or leave it, whether or not we on TV or
Speaker 3: whether or not we're doing our podcast.
Speaker 2: And that's not good.
Speaker 3: You know, if if they could take it or leave
Speaker 3: it that this dude's fighting, then that dude don't headline
Speaker 3: pay per views, or or if they could take it
Speaker 3: or leave it that that you're you're not playing your game.
Speaker 3: Those teams don't get primetime games. Like that's the way
Speaker 3: it works. And so I think that's all a huge
Speaker 3: like a huge part of our interaction and too on
Speaker 3: who on who you are, Like I've been around you,
Speaker 3: like you just legit are fun like like straight up
Speaker 3: like and in a way no, I'm just saying like
Speaker 3: like in a way like it even made me laugh
Speaker 3: one time, you know, like when the whole Derek Heary
Speaker 3: thing was going on, which I'm sure we'll get to
Speaker 3: at some point. It was probably somebody in here tweeted
Speaker 3: something dumb about, you know, about Derrek finally stiff throwm
Speaker 3: somebody and it was on Busting with the Boys, and
Speaker 3: I was like, first off, you know, because I run
Speaker 3: all of my stuff, I was like, first off, Will's
Speaker 3: my nephew. He know me, Like if he wanted to
Speaker 3: know the answer to this, so he could text me
Speaker 3: or I'll come do the show. And he was like,
Speaker 3: oh unk, And when I see you I'm gonna hug
Speaker 3: you and it's gonna be all up. And it just
Speaker 3: made me laugh because like part of me was like, well,
Speaker 3: if Will's a part of this, like why would he
Speaker 3: even tweet that, like that's my dog? But then when
Speaker 3: you said it, I was like, nah, he right, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah, like that part, And so
Speaker 3: that's what you portray and that's the way you interact.
Speaker 3: I'm actually like like this, like I don't like stupidity sometimes,
Speaker 3: like I don't like to be misunderstood, and I think
Speaker 3: that that comes across. But I'm also fun and I
Speaker 3: have a good time and I'm silly. But all those
Speaker 3: things are what we have to portray in our brand.
Speaker 3: Where somebody like Peyton Manning, it's on display so much
Speaker 3: and highlighted so much, he doesn't need to show.
Speaker 1: That, right, And I did take from what you were
Speaker 1: saying that too, like when you are engaging, like there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of learning that goes involved with like
Speaker 1: you said, if they hate you that much, they wouldn't watch,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't listen to you, and all that. But when
Speaker 1: somebody's obviously projecting and meeting you with some kind of
Speaker 1: friction and then you talk back to them in a
Speaker 1: way that you're either learning or you're saying something. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know you were going to respond,
Speaker 1: and all.
Speaker 2: These energies obviously different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's something in there too about responding with like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not so triggered by this that I
Speaker 1: can't like get something about like yo, where are you
Speaker 1: coming from? Or yeah, you're right, it was born, but
Speaker 1: this you know, X, Y and Z, And I do
Speaker 1: feel like there's there's that learning component that you have,
Speaker 1: which obviously has ultimately gotten you where you are now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you know.
Speaker 3: The other piece about about learning that I had to learn, bro,
Speaker 3: is that like I can't like Lewis Riddick. Right, Lewis
Speaker 3: Riddick grew up differently than me. Lewis Riddick has had
Speaker 3: different experiences than I have. I can't out Lewis Riddick
Speaker 3: Lewis Ridick, you know, like I'm not going to get
Speaker 3: on there and be stern faced the entire time and
Speaker 3: say these things that people think are always so eloquent,
Speaker 3: you know, Like I can't do that. And I just
Speaker 3: remember when I first got the job, I wanted people
Speaker 3: to think I was so dang smart because kind of
Speaker 3: like what you said too about you know, understanding and
Speaker 3: branding and this and that. It was like I wasn't
Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. I won't be in a Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer, and I'm not a quarterback, right and so
Speaker 3: in that and too, like I wear colorful suits.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I had different sometimes you always you always, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I doce different things with my hair, and I understand
Speaker 3: like the perception of that. So when I first started,
Speaker 3: I was like, man like, I just want to be smart, man.
Speaker 3: So I would just study and study and study, and
Speaker 3: I would like spew the stats I learned and talk
Speaker 3: about the plays I saw. And it was it was
Speaker 3: Josina Anderson, who was in Washington, my first thing in Washington,
Speaker 3: and one day, man like, We're just sitting in the
Speaker 3: green room and she was like, I wish people knew
Speaker 3: how funny you were. And I kind of felt some
Speaker 3: type of way. I was like, what do you mean.
Speaker 3: She's like, I wish like your personality, like your real
Speaker 3: personality showed on TV. And she was like, don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong, you do a great job and people here
Speaker 3: love you. She was like, but I know who you
Speaker 3: are and I wish that that showed and like, I
Speaker 3: just this when Get Up started, and Get Up was
Speaker 3: kind of like struggling and they were like and then
Speaker 3: the producer his name is Zach BENNERBIEB and he would
Speaker 3: produce me every day I was on. He was like,
Speaker 3: what do you want to do? What do you want
Speaker 3: to talk about? How do you want to talk about it?
Speaker 3: Because they were in a place where he understood, like,
Speaker 3: this is the way the show is going to get off,
Speaker 3: and he just started letting me be me. And then
Speaker 3: because I did it on Get Up, Now First Take
Speaker 3: wanted that me too. Now Sports Center wants that you too,
Speaker 3: Live wants that you too. So it was truly when
Speaker 3: I started just thinking, just started just being myself, like
Speaker 3: being the same person that's sitting here talking to you.
Speaker 3: Was when my career took off, I think, and also
Speaker 3: when I started to enjoy it, because it was like
Speaker 3: real work for me at first, and football was never work.
Speaker 2: And you felt did you feel stressed?
Speaker 1: I guess trying to be this image that you wanted
Speaker 1: to have as being the smartest dude because you felt
Speaker 1: like you probably had to prove yourself in this world
Speaker 1: and overcome some of the thoughts that might be out there,
Speaker 1: and then finding that new voice of like balancing the
Speaker 1: humor with it, or that about.
Speaker 2: To get thing.
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm not gonna die stress, like I ain't gonna
Speaker 3: let that happen. So now I wouldn't say I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say I was stressed. I just I definitely had to
Speaker 3: think about it and work on it more than I
Speaker 3: should have been, because the personality part is truly just personality, right,
Speaker 3: and worrying about how people perceived me took away the
Speaker 3: personality part of it. And so now I still study
Speaker 3: the same way, I still focus the same way. I'm
Speaker 3: still up on Monday nights, I mean on Sunday night
Speaker 3: or Monday morning till two three am, get up at
Speaker 3: five to do get up. But when I get up
Speaker 3: to do it, it's not like I gotta say, I
Speaker 3: gotta make sure I hit this play, that play, that play.
Speaker 3: It's I have an overall view of what happened. I
Speaker 3: have things that stick out in my mind. And if
Speaker 3: when I ask the question, that's the first thing I
Speaker 3: think about, I'll say it. If it's not, then it's
Speaker 3: not like if you ask me a question. And the
Speaker 3: first thing, and the first thing I think about is
Speaker 3: blived on house party and every time he tried to
Speaker 3: dance with a chick that was saying his breastink and
Speaker 3: then he started singing in their ear. And that's the
Speaker 3: first thing I think about. It's the first thing I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say. And if I'm on the show with somebody black,
Speaker 3: usually they catch it. If I'm not, usually they don't.
Speaker 3: And I just keep on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He said, if he's not kind of look to the.
Speaker 3: But you know, and so the thing that's happened from that,
Speaker 3: though it is greenier Gough. I'm sure that's funny, but
Speaker 3: no idea what you're talking about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And that and that's the thing. But I think it's
Speaker 3: also too since I started being that way, I think
Speaker 3: it's allowed it's allowed other people to to kind of
Speaker 3: live in that truth, and it's helped me. It's helped
Speaker 3: me work with other dudes. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: if you're on there with somebody who not necessarily like
Speaker 3: the most personality, then I know that day I have
Speaker 3: to be a lot of personality, you know, or if
Speaker 3: you go on the show and you know somebody feeds
Speaker 3: off of you very well. I know that day I
Speaker 3: could throw alley oops and they'll catch them and that
Speaker 3: and that's really I think that's really when you start
Speaker 3: to get in a sweet spot of people telling you,
Speaker 3: knowing and understanding that every time you're on a show,
Speaker 3: you make it better, because that's the goal. Every time
Speaker 3: you're on the show. You want the people you work with,
Speaker 3: the people producing the show, to be like, dang, when
Speaker 3: our seas on the show, that's better.
Speaker 2: And I think that's where I am now.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm learning a lot about his psyche
Speaker 1: on like going into all these different shows and everything.
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's interesting to like listen to just because
Speaker 1: I feel like you've had to you've grown through it all.
Speaker 1: Obviously you've approached it the same way you've probably like me,
Speaker 1: it's still being a dumb football player, like being a
Speaker 1: football player and carrying it over to the next world.
Speaker 1: But it's just insightful to kind of listen to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, going into these pre meetings or things and
Speaker 1: like finding your voice and here's the sweet spot, and
Speaker 1: here's where I started to learn this, And I wanted
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Speaker 1: I've been. I was doing the t k E early
Speaker 1: this morning, your Face First podcast. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about that a little bit because I was watching your uh,
Speaker 1: your sit down.
Speaker 2: I want to say it was, uh, what was the
Speaker 2: one with the DBS called Safeties First? Safeties First?
Speaker 1: And then you sat down with Troy Polamalu recently and
Speaker 1: I Taylor Legends, Uh talk talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: what that's about and where you're wanting to go with that,
Speaker 1: because I feel like you've made a couple of pivots
Speaker 1: along the way, and now I feel like it's starting
Speaker 1: to get out there more than ever.
Speaker 2: I'm curious what you're what the brain is behind that
Speaker 2: open It's all happened accidentally on an accident.
Speaker 3: Accident, an accident, So it started because I wasn't I'm
Speaker 3: not in love with TV okay, like I just not
Speaker 3: in love in what way I think, you know, Like
Speaker 3: I get around people. Marcus Spears is one of my
Speaker 3: closest friends, went to college together. He's a on TV.
Speaker 3: We're standing at the spring game at LSU one year,
Speaker 3: probably three four years ago, and he goes, what do
Speaker 3: you want to do with this TV stuff? And I
Speaker 3: was like, oh man, you know, I really love ball
Speaker 3: and I love the fact they let me talk about it.
Speaker 3: So as long as they pay me to do it,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. Yeah, And he goes, I want
Speaker 3: to be a TV star. And the first the first
Speaker 3: thing out of my mouth, without thinking, was I don't.
Speaker 3: And that's one true like I don't. I I I
Speaker 3: rather be seen less. Like if you look at my
Speaker 3: social media, like there's no there's no video of me
Speaker 3: talking holding the phone in my face about anything, right, Like,
Speaker 3: you'll never see me.
Speaker 2: Oh such and such just happened.
Speaker 3: It was this nah, like because if I ain't on TV,
Speaker 3: then it ain't for my voice to be heard right now,
Speaker 3: like and and it's strange.
Speaker 2: Like you having hot takes like doing that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but and and so and so.
Speaker 3: For me, it started to become work in the sense
Speaker 3: that you know, you got to talk about what's hot
Speaker 3: in the cycle. You know, you got you gotta talk
Speaker 3: about Aaron Rodgers all summer because Aaron Rodgers is a story,
Speaker 3: but Amon Rodgers shows up on the first day in
Speaker 3: his shirt with Kevin from the office on it, right,
Speaker 3: But you got to talk about it, and you got
Speaker 3: to talk about it in a way that people get
Speaker 3: excited about it every dang time you do. And so
Speaker 3: it started at first because I was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm going to start a podcast. Nobody ever has to
Speaker 3: listen to it, but it's gonna be like therapy. If
Speaker 3: there was something I wanted to talk about that week,
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about it.
Speaker 2: So that's how it started.
Speaker 3: And it was just me sitting I did a radio
Speaker 3: show every week, and the dude was like our video
Speaker 3: for it for RC, it was in a studio it
Speaker 3: still will be, right, and so I was going say,
Speaker 3: I kind of dig that, yeah, so it's still it
Speaker 3: still will be. And so I took off for most
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty because right at the beginning of COVID
Speaker 3: my mom got it. And so my mom has lupus
Speaker 3: really bad. Uh. She has what's called aspagillous, which is
Speaker 3: basically like where you get pneumonia a lot. And I
Speaker 3: hope I'm saying this right. No, no doctors check me
Speaker 3: her lungs basically have callouses on them.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And so if you would have asked me when I
Speaker 3: first heard about COVID, who's the one person in your
Speaker 3: life who can't survive it? I would pick my mom, right,
Speaker 3: My mom, My mom growing up. My mom my parents
Speaker 3: were my best friends on the East Side. She was
Speaker 3: my best female friend. He was my best My father
Speaker 3: was my best male friend growing up. And so my
Speaker 3: mom goes to church, bro, like eight days a week,
Speaker 3: like twenty five hours a day, stays in church. And
Speaker 3: so I call her the first when she first gets it.
Speaker 3: We're talking about it, and like I'm fighting from crying.
Speaker 3: She's not scared of freaking out. I'm freaked out. So
Speaker 3: every day, so every three days we drive down Bringer
Speaker 3: supplies me and my kids and my wife would sit
Speaker 3: on my sidewalk where I grew up. My mom would
Speaker 3: sit in the doorway with her mask on, and that's
Speaker 3: how we talked to her, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And so like at that time, she didn't test negative
Speaker 3: for forty six days, okay, right, And so at that time, bro,
Speaker 3: it was all I could think about, you know, And
Speaker 3: so I was like, people don't want to come hear
Speaker 3: me talk about my mom and COVID every day. And
Speaker 3: so then shortly after, right, we get George Floyd and
Speaker 3: we get Breonna Taylor, and that stuff consumed me.
Speaker 2: Right, so oh, I mean a lot of people.
Speaker 1: It was like with everything shut down, it was kind
Speaker 1: of just the focus and magnifying glasses whatever was the
Speaker 1: big topic coming out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that consumed me, and it was all I could do,
Speaker 3: and it's all I wanted to talk about. So I'm
Speaker 3: ad marches and I'm giving speeches and I'm doing all
Speaker 3: these things. And so I took off for that period
Speaker 3: of time and so then we kind of swung back
Speaker 3: around and I started up again in the studio and
Speaker 3: I just started getting like these ideas of people like
Speaker 3: I wanted to put on, like people I wanted to
Speaker 3: talk to, and because it was like my thing, I
Speaker 3: was like I can talk to whoever the hell I want, right,
Speaker 3: But it was just all people, if you know. Like
Speaker 3: I had my best friend on who wrapped and we
Speaker 3: made an album, and the dude that does all my videography,
Speaker 3: I had him on and we did a show. And
Speaker 3: then I did a show about like undrafted guys cause
Speaker 3: we're undrafted, and it was like, it'll be cool for
Speaker 3: people to hear these stories some dudes who aren't drafted.
Speaker 3: And it was the shaser ever than Mike Ford, people
Speaker 3: who I trained, and so it was like, I want
Speaker 3: to put them out that.
Speaker 2: I want people to see them.
Speaker 3: All the safeties that were on that show that like
Speaker 3: all my guys, like I train them all. Obviously, the
Speaker 3: the Troy thing was kind of like the biggest thing
Speaker 3: for me. He's one of my closest friends. He's definitely
Speaker 3: the best friend I have from my playing days, and
Speaker 3: he don't ever talk publicly.
Speaker 2: Right, He's never out there unless you see it heading Shulders.
Speaker 3: And I think, and he's like one of the most
Speaker 3: He's like one of the more naturally intelligent people I've
Speaker 3: been around. Like if he's around it and he absorbs it,
Speaker 3: he could regurgitate it in a way that other people
Speaker 3: don't think. Like on that podcast, Bro, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you finished it, he talks about when he knew
Speaker 3: it was over.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that yeah, I love that part, just.
Speaker 3: Crazy right, Like I knew it was over because Jordan
Speaker 3: had to go open the door every Saturday in Virginia
Speaker 3: for the barber because I couldn't get down the stairs
Speaker 3: on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Like that was George's son, George my son, Like that's
Speaker 2: how I knew that.
Speaker 3: And when he said that, I was like, Bro, that
Speaker 3: was like low key, like the greatest flex of all time?
Speaker 2: Right? Can you tell everybody what U? Yeah? So so what?
Speaker 1: So you can find this on face first podcast too
Speaker 1: to listen to Troy say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's on you know, it's on on face
Speaker 3: first podcast, Instagram, it's on the Twitter, you'll see it.
Speaker 3: So he basically said he was in a position where
Speaker 3: he felt like he created and innovate and make moves
Speaker 3: in the defense. Right, he had he had a job,
Speaker 3: but he knew he could switch that job and try
Speaker 3: to make a play.
Speaker 2: Go from the A gap to half field, right, and
Speaker 2: he goes.
Speaker 3: He's like, and then I thought about it. I had
Speaker 3: no more moves. He's like, I had been in the
Speaker 3: A gap and went to the half. He's like, I
Speaker 3: had moved the d N around, I moved the nickel,
Speaker 3: I played corner, I played safety. He was like, there
Speaker 3: was nothing left.
Speaker 2: For me to do. I jumped over the line of screen, right.
Speaker 3: And so I'm sitting there listening to him and like
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Right right, and I sound like an idiot.
Speaker 3: I'm like, right right, But I don't get it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, it's not it's not processing
Speaker 3: to me that you played in such a complex defense,
Speaker 3: You've done all of these things that you truly feel
Speaker 3: just mentally. It wasn't even physically he felt mentally there
Speaker 3: was nowhere else to go. And that was like that
Speaker 3: that was a moment that I learned something about it.
Speaker 3: And like we talk all the time, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like like our relationship and my you know,
Speaker 3: my wife used to make fun of us. She's like, oh,
Speaker 3: did you call Troy's hair today? Like our relationship, No,
Speaker 3: I did. Our relationship was one of those like really
Speaker 3: strange relationships. Like he would always go home and see
Speaker 3: his family for home games, right, and I would stay
Speaker 3: at the hotel because like the hotel is for married people,
Speaker 3: so you can get away from responsibility, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and so bro and so if we had a one
Speaker 3: o'clock game, Troy would peak me up from the hotel
Speaker 3: at like seven thirty eight o'clock. We'd go over and guys,
Speaker 3: don't like I'm gonna try to say this so it
Speaker 3: doesn't sound as funny. So I'm just gonna pause it now,
Speaker 3: pause right for the rest of the conversation. Okay, we'd
Speaker 3: get to the stadium, bro, we both like get.
Speaker 2: Us pause podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like we'd get to the stadium. We get
Speaker 3: to the stadium, like we set all our stuff up,
Speaker 3: like our supplements, our drinks, whatever. They ever put our shoulder,
Speaker 3: you know, get our shoulder pass ready. I would make
Speaker 3: a towels. I would make towels for our pants. Troy's
Speaker 3: not fancy like that, but he liked the towel. Right, yeah,
Speaker 3: so I do my towel, I do his. We put
Speaker 3: him up whatever. He'd read the Bible. I'd read and
Speaker 3: then he would like walk past you like you're ready,
Speaker 3: and we would go. They had two hot tubs. We'd
Speaker 3: sit bast each other, talk in the hot tubs whatever whatever.
Speaker 3: Then we'd shower. He'd put his clothes and I put
Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying. No pause, yeah, I pause
Speaker 3: the beginning, and we shower. We'd get dressed. We dap
Speaker 3: each other off, hug each other, and we say I
Speaker 3: see you when the game starts, and like we'd separate,
Speaker 3: do our thing, and then before every game we'd hug,
Speaker 3: we talk and we say one more of many more.
Speaker 3: Because that's what we started our first year starting together,
Speaker 3: and we felt like we could do that for a
Speaker 3: very long time, like that's what we would do and
Speaker 3: so and so, like we just had this relationship that
Speaker 3: was different. And then there was Ike, who was totally
Speaker 3: different from both of us, Like we were both married,
Speaker 3: we both had kids. Ike is like this dude from
Speaker 3: New Orleans who favorite saying is eye contact, get you
Speaker 3: instant beef, you know, like I could, I could get
Speaker 3: it to it people during the game and then like
Speaker 3: if he saw you know, all season, it was not over,
Speaker 3: like We're not gonna have a drink, none of that.
Speaker 2: Like let's square up. Like that's how he is.
Speaker 3: Like now he boxes, like he goes to these different
Speaker 3: boxing gyms and spars with people who actually box, like
Speaker 3: that's who he is. And so to get all those
Speaker 3: people together, man and do that, like that was a
Speaker 3: dream for me. And I would have to text and
Speaker 3: like Troy is one of those people that like don't
Speaker 3: ever have a phone, Like he has a phone, but
Speaker 3: he ain't worried about it. So I text him like, hey, bro,
Speaker 3: let's do this podcast. He'd be like, two weeks later,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Bro, I didn't see that the messages we
Speaker 3: could do whatever. And then I text him like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: Ike's in And a week later he was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: is Ike still coming? And I was like, yes, Troy,
Speaker 3: We're gonna be there on Monday, Bro, And so we
Speaker 3: go and that's how it happens. And so now I
Speaker 3: got one coming out this Friday with James Harrison.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it's like, and I have I truly, I can
Speaker 3: be honest with you. I don't know if I have
Speaker 3: a goal or even a direction. Like I have a
Speaker 3: marketing lady now, which is super weird, you know, and
Speaker 3: she's like, well, we got to do this with it
Speaker 3: and do that, and I was like, nah, I just
Speaker 3: want to do shows. And I think that's what it's
Speaker 3: going to be for the time being, because I don't
Speaker 3: know what the sweet spot is for it yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 3: Makes sense, and so we'll see where have you gain
Speaker 3: gotten like obviously busting with the boys, But where else
Speaker 3: have you gotten inspiration from?
Speaker 2: Obviously busting podcasting?
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like too, Like, I think
Speaker 1: it's cool because I've been trying to get him on
Speaker 1: so you can hook it up.
Speaker 2: That'd be awesome too.
Speaker 1: But watching I Am Athlete as well, I saw you
Speaker 1: going that you were there when my boy Levante was
Speaker 1: on our So I feel like what Brandon and them
Speaker 1: do is is dope because of the production setup. I
Speaker 1: feel like that just builds on the inspiration of guys
Speaker 1: who want to do stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's somewhere I grab now, No, that's that. That
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Alicia, who produces it, you know, is like different level though,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like it's I felt they have rolling credits at
Speaker 2: the end of the show. Bro I felt.
Speaker 3: I mean, I felt super TV stupid riding over with
Speaker 3: her to do it because she produced. So they did
Speaker 3: like a Path to the drast a House of Athletes,
Speaker 3: you know, I trained. The DB's there and like we're
Speaker 3: going over. She's talking about the hard knocks and she's
Speaker 3: talking about the showtimes like twenty four. She did all
Speaker 3: of Floyd stuff, And the way she got to doing
Speaker 3: Floyd stuff was was she did Koto stuff when he
Speaker 3: was fighting Floyd, and Floyd is like, get me her
Speaker 3: because she had me thinking that mother effort was gonna
Speaker 3: beat me. Like She's like good like that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So well, it's just it's just such
Speaker 3: a top notch team. And I remember going to do it,
Speaker 3: and obviously so Chad wasn't there, so I was basically
Speaker 3: taking Chad's place, but Dwayne Wade was there, and i'ma
Speaker 3: be honest with you, Like I walked in the building,
Speaker 3: I said on the show, I had like I had
Speaker 3: one plan. I was gonna talk more than everybody, but
Speaker 3: d Wade. That's it. Like Brandon wasn't gonna talk more
Speaker 3: than me, Shanning Fred, none of those. Like if I'm
Speaker 3: here one time, I'm gonna get it in. But what
Speaker 3: they're doing. I think what they're doing is different because
Speaker 3: they have a great group of dudes and they they
Speaker 3: talk like friends. They like that they go in obviously
Speaker 3: with the topic and it's easier when they have a guess,
Speaker 3: but what they're feeling they share, and I think people
Speaker 3: gravitate toward that. And it helps when you have somebody
Speaker 3: like Brandon who's had such public struggles with mental health.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has what a borderline personality disorder.
Speaker 3: Something I don't want to misquote it. I know I've
Speaker 3: tried talking about it before too, and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to go too what you do because
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. But you know, he's
Speaker 3: very he's very honest about it. He's very open about it.
Speaker 3: He does a lot of service and activism with it.
Speaker 3: And so to have somebody like that who's already been
Speaker 3: so vulnerable allows the rest of the people on the
Speaker 3: show to be And I think that's you know, like
Speaker 3: that's a huge thing. I can't I don't necessarily know
Speaker 3: if I want my show to go in that direction,
Speaker 3: because the other piece of it is like it's only me,
Speaker 3: you know, like like it's different if you get to
Speaker 3: and so you do a lot of things, yeah, and
Speaker 3: so it's it's different if you get to like if
Speaker 3: you're talking to the same group of dudes, you know,
Speaker 3: like the thing like you and Taylor, y'all obviously have
Speaker 3: like this great dynamic because y'all do it all the time,
Speaker 3: and then when somebody else comes on, it's like y'all
Speaker 3: too because y'all the boys and somebody else is on
Speaker 3: the bus and y'all kind of let them get it.
Speaker 3: But y'all still throw in who you guys are. I
Speaker 3: don't necessarily know like how that dynamic starts.
Speaker 1: For me and with them too, they got I feel
Speaker 1: like they started to take off on Ocho got added
Speaker 1: to the to the whole segment that was, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got you got, you got some known players who
Speaker 1: are all sitting around each other talking and when you
Speaker 1: got a character or personality like Ocho.
Speaker 2: Like can't lose.
Speaker 3: You can't lose because remember when it started, it was
Speaker 3: Reggie Wayne.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: Remember when so when it started it was Reggie Wayne.
Speaker 3: And I think when you add the right people to
Speaker 3: stuff and they get start and you start saying, okay,
Speaker 3: like Chad, like Chad was Ocho Sinko playing football, you know,
Speaker 3: so let's get him doing what he what he does
Speaker 3: and just film it and that's what and that's what happens.
Speaker 3: And it's been it's been magic. Man, Like I'm really
Speaker 3: excited for those dudes. I'm happy for him because it
Speaker 3: also carves a different lane. And like the way I
Speaker 3: look at it is like this, right, if if you
Speaker 3: play linebacker or if I play safety, which we did
Speaker 3: and say we are really good players, and the top
Speaker 3: dude gets two hundred million. I'm not mad at him, right,
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you've made the number there because now
Speaker 3: when they look at me and they say, oh, you're
Speaker 3: a pro bowler, Okay, you're a starter for this long,
Speaker 3: you definitely ain't worth two hundred million. But you know
Speaker 3: what I can give you eighty Where do I sign?
Speaker 2: Right? Right?
Speaker 3: And that's what they're doing. They're elevating the game. They're
Speaker 3: making the podcast game different, and you can watch the
Speaker 3: moves they make, you can watch the way they do shows,
Speaker 3: and then now you can pull from that what works
Speaker 3: for you and continue to build your brand. And so
Speaker 3: definitely shout out to be Marsh and those boys for
Speaker 3: what they're doing. And it was great to be on it.
Speaker 3: That's why with my red jackets, so people remembered.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah too.
Speaker 1: And Levante he was so funny because I knew when
Speaker 1: I saw him post picture of d Wade, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this dude, I know he went from six to midnight
Speaker 1: when he saw d Wade playing basketball.
Speaker 2: Six to midnight. That's a penis joke. Yeah, six to midnight,
Speaker 2: never heard it. There you have it.
Speaker 3: You see how you don't understand the black thing. I
Speaker 3: don't get that way.
Speaker 2: Black. That's what happens.
Speaker 3: I work with baseball, Like one of my partners a
Speaker 3: baseball player, Bro, and uh, they're fascinated with that part
Speaker 3: of the body for some reason. And and they say
Speaker 3: they in baseball. Yes, I mean I feel like football players. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they say some stuff sometimes, Bro, And I'm like, wow,
Speaker 3: I don't get that, but it sounds wrong.
Speaker 2: Y'all can go and keep that conversation. Have they has?
Speaker 2: I am a Have they monetized that yet? You know?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know because Bro Brandon has Brandon has uh
Speaker 3: has has has?
Speaker 2: I know he has other brand.
Speaker 3: He has big brain mentality in long term thinking. Yes,
Speaker 3: because one yeah, realized he made a ton of money.
Speaker 1: Right enough, Like because I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: met Quincy and none, Well, he used he was a receiver.
Speaker 1: He ended up getting paid there before he got injured.
Speaker 1: But he played with b marsh And I'm tired with
Speaker 1: Quincy And I was like, hey, what's up B Marshal
Speaker 1: because I was trying to get in touch with him.
Speaker 1: He's like, Bro, like he's all time, Like he's somebody
Speaker 1: who works extremely hard when he gets done with practice
Speaker 1: and say he have a helicopter and take a helicopter
Speaker 1: to go do you know TV or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be. So just talks about how much work he
Speaker 1: puts in this stuff, like House of Athlete all this stuff.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy. It's so crazy because he thinks we're alike,
Speaker 3: but we're not.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, so I was the first one to do the
Speaker 3: TV while playing thing. He was the second. Okay, yeah, Lane,
Speaker 3: yes and so and so he was like yeah, or
Speaker 3: see you know he was talking to me about it,
Speaker 3: and I'll be like, b we're not actually the same.
Speaker 3: And then like even with the gym, he talked to
Speaker 3: me about like House of Athletes like five years ago
Speaker 3: and doing that, and I was like, I don't really
Speaker 3: know if I like. I think he has such a
Speaker 3: like I have a real like workers mentality. He has
Speaker 3: a very heavy boss mentality. Like he likes to he
Speaker 3: likes to delegate, like he likes to create and I
Speaker 3: like to and I like to create in a sense
Speaker 3: of I like to create for me like I like to.
Speaker 3: I like to feel good about doing things like he
Speaker 3: likes to create on such a mass scale.
Speaker 2: You like to be boots on the ground. You like
Speaker 2: to be yeah time.
Speaker 3: Right and so and so, Like I think that's gonna
Speaker 3: be the beauty of House of Athletes for him and
Speaker 3: of I am athlete, because he's not going to be
Speaker 3: in the rush, like like he's he's gonna understand and
Speaker 3: see like this is like this is where I want
Speaker 3: to go, And until he gets there, he's not going
Speaker 3: to do anything with it. He's not going to rush himself.
Speaker 3: And I think that's the same thing that happened with
Speaker 3: House of Athletes. Like he was building and building and
Speaker 3: building and putting in architecture and putting in and looking
Speaker 3: for the right staff and to do the right things
Speaker 3: and and finally it got to where he wanted it
Speaker 3: and he did it. Morgan Wells, who is the head
Speaker 3: of his like pro uh pro department, right, used to
Speaker 3: work for me and like this dude man had brain
Speaker 3: surgery at LSU. He ran hurdles uh he's where he
Speaker 3: worked at LSU. Then he worked at Traction for me
Speaker 3: with dB Precision. Then he went to XOS, then he
Speaker 3: went to IMG and Brandon was like after him, after him,
Speaker 3: after him, after him, and he meant it. He was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get him, you know. And then he gets
Speaker 3: to him and he has one of the largest combine
Speaker 3: classes in the country, one of the best combined classes
Speaker 3: in the country. You do path to the draft, you
Speaker 3: do all these things, and he's so meticulous about each
Speaker 3: step that I think, you know, he is a good
Speaker 3: one to follow, not just based on what the podcast is,
Speaker 3: but based on the business.
Speaker 2: Absolutely he's smart. You can tell he's like he has
Speaker 2: freedom about not being in a rush for.
Speaker 3: Anything, no idea about NBA contracts, what he was getting.
Speaker 3: He is such a large human like people don't get it.
Speaker 3: Like I got a picture with him from there, and you.
Speaker 2: See that he boxed. I don't know how well he boys,
Speaker 2: but enough for me to just be like.
Speaker 3: Not to fight him. Yeah, right, Sure, I'm hitting him.
Speaker 3: I'm hitting him with something out there gate and you
Speaker 3: gotta swing first too. But I've been talking to d
Speaker 3: C about different holes and different submissions, and that's more
Speaker 3: so where my fight game is going in my forties.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, that was a phenomenal ad read well, thank you.
Speaker 1: You know, do you have a lot of teleprompter stuff
Speaker 1: with like with the TV that you do?
Speaker 3: So I finally got I got with this producer named
Speaker 3: Artie and he kind of saw me, uh like differently
Speaker 3: than just a football player, which is always a thing.
Speaker 1: And so he was always always, man, I didn't know
Speaker 1: you were like this. I didn't know that you had
Speaker 1: this side of you.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so one day, one day we were on
Speaker 3: and they were doing like the Top ten, and it
Speaker 3: was like our cee, you were involved in the top ten.
Speaker 3: So I get to talk like basketball, soccer, all these things,
Speaker 3: and like sometimes like I mess up names because like
Speaker 3: some of the names are weird, you know, but they
Speaker 3: just laugh about it. Had not everybody has two first names.
Speaker 3: Ryan Clark very simple, very simple. It's like I remember
Speaker 3: and just off the subject, a recruiter comes down. I
Speaker 3: went to a Catholic school, predominantly white. Recruiter comes down.
Speaker 3: They tell him Ryan Clark is down there, and he
Speaker 3: didn't know it was me because he's looking for a
Speaker 3: white boy. But anyway, so and so and so, you know.
Speaker 3: So he was like, we're gonna start letting you read
Speaker 3: your bumps. But but they wouldn't let me write them.
Speaker 3: Obviously they were just written for me and I would
Speaker 3: have bumped. Sorry, So Bump said, so say say after say,
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about the Dallas Cowboys and Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott's contract in the next segment. Okay, and they they
Speaker 3: might What they might do is say still hand a
Speaker 3: storm and be like and coming up Ryan Clark talked
Speaker 3: about such and such. But they would let me do
Speaker 3: it for myself, right, So I'd be like, coming in
Speaker 3: the show, I'm going to talk about Dak Prescott. He
Speaker 3: got one hundred and forty ms. What is Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 3: gonna do? And now what does this put the Cowboys
Speaker 3: in the next season?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: And so they write it for me, but they'd write
Speaker 3: it in like, you know, forty five year old white
Speaker 3: man boys, you know what I'm saying, and so and
Speaker 3: so like cornball heads boys, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: you know, And so like in reading it, I'd be like, guys,
Speaker 3: like that ain't me. And so the first time I
Speaker 3: did it, you know, I kind of just bounced around
Speaker 3: like that and did it, and it was like every time,
Speaker 3: that's it. That's the way you read it every time
Speaker 3: from now on. And so like that you get to
Speaker 3: do to do that type of prompter stuff. When Troy retired,
Speaker 3: they let me write this piece up for him, and
Speaker 3: I did that. And when I did that, I was
Speaker 3: in the prompter. But they don't really give us like
Speaker 3: those kind of opportunities. Which is the cool thing, Like,
Speaker 3: which would be the cool thing for you hosting this show,
Speaker 3: It's not become the cool thing with me. Having a
Speaker 3: show with DC is like I get to read as
Speaker 3: and I get to do bumps and do these different things.
Speaker 3: John Saunders when he was at ESPN before he passed,
Speaker 3: had a meeting. We had a meeting, you know, Like
Speaker 3: I got a call It's like John Saunders wants to
Speaker 3: meet you, and I was like why, Like it's like
Speaker 3: he's like big time, yeah, Like what is why would
Speaker 3: he ever want to talk to me? And he sits
Speaker 3: me down and he goes, don't let them box you
Speaker 3: into just being a football player. And at the time,
Speaker 3: like I didn't really understand it. I's like, well, I
Speaker 3: am a football player. But he was just basically saying
Speaker 3: like you are talented enough to do all of these
Speaker 3: things and you should do your best to try. And
Speaker 3: that's that was like another thing with the podcast. It
Speaker 3: was like I'm always doing the same thing. I'm basically
Speaker 3: doing other people's right, Like this producer wants you to
Speaker 3: talk about this, so you go talk about it. I
Speaker 3: wanted to be in a space where I wrote the content.
Speaker 3: I wrote the questions. I've decided how the show was
Speaker 3: going to go. I controlled flow and that's what I do.
Speaker 3: And like the cool part about it too, is like
Speaker 3: one time I went on and talked about when I
Speaker 3: almost drowned in Mexico. I had nothing to do with sports,
Speaker 3: you know. Another time I went on because I've been
Speaker 3: in Mexico twice this year. Another time I went on
Speaker 3: and I talked about when I was going to fight
Speaker 3: this dude to the pool in Mexico. Nothing to do
Speaker 3: with sports, but guess what, can't nobody tell me nothing
Speaker 3: because it's my show, right, And like that's the cool part.
Speaker 1: So going into you doing other segments because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to get too far away from the fight game.
Speaker 1: You are now in that new MMA community, working with
Speaker 1: somebody like Daniel Cormier who's one of the ghats. How
Speaker 1: did what was the motivation behind that? Like what made
Speaker 1: you want to get into that? Is that something you're
Speaker 1: very interested in? Yeah, so talk about how you got
Speaker 1: motivated on getting into that, getting that spot and then
Speaker 1: obviously now that you're in it, like battling at the MMA,
Speaker 1: because you don't know enough about it because you played
Speaker 1: Football said.
Speaker 3: First, the first thing is I often laugh because the
Speaker 3: dude tweeting me or dming me is probably like me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the sense of his fandom
Speaker 3: for the UFC, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 3: I still have like the Ultimate Fighting Knockouts DVDs that
Speaker 3: I used to watch, like back in the early two thousands,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: There's no weight classes. Yeah, like people fight, just a
Speaker 2: huge tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like one dude got on boots and another dude
Speaker 3: got on a G But the dude in the GI
Speaker 3: is three forty, the dude in the boots is one sixty,
Speaker 3: you know. And like Gracie wins those joints, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then and like.
Speaker 3: My first like my first favorite fighter was Chuck Ladell,
Speaker 3: and I just because I just always thought he was
Speaker 3: super cool because he was built like that and he
Speaker 3: could knock people out right, you know. And so like
Speaker 3: I remember, like my first championship fight was Coulture Ladell won,
Speaker 3: and Katur wins it, you know, but then it comes
Speaker 3: back and then you know, so I just loved all
Speaker 3: of it since then, and I just followed it. And
Speaker 3: so in the off season, like I would training Kempo
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. I do kim poe a stand up, I
Speaker 3: do jiu jitsu, I grapple, and I used to work
Speaker 3: on my tackling all the time, so like double a
Speaker 3: single ags and like I just always loved it and
Speaker 3: it was fascinated with it. And then as it evolves,
Speaker 3: you get a guy like John Jones who's this amazing,
Speaker 3: amazing athlete. Both his brothers played football, Anderson Silva right
Speaker 3: like you see all these dudes, George Saint Pierre, and
Speaker 3: I just fell in love with it, so I would
Speaker 3: follow it, and then it became this game of can
Speaker 3: I get my tweet on TV?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like that the UFC sometimes all hashtag, like everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: know I'm trying to get on the TV right now.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So and so like I
Speaker 3: am that type of tweeter, like like that's how I
Speaker 3: got I got a section on get up a segment
Speaker 3: that's explain your tweet because I like to because that's
Speaker 3: how I talk to the world or have conversation because
Speaker 3: I ain't nobody in my house watching the fight, Like
Speaker 3: my son's gone, he'll text me or facetiming when somebody
Speaker 3: gets put to sleep, but I'm by myself in the front,
Speaker 3: and that's how like I get interaction with people like oh,
Speaker 3: you know, and so like that would happen, that would
Speaker 3: happen in my boss Seth markm who run NFL. He
Speaker 3: was like, bro, you really love this jump, don't you?
Speaker 3: And I was like yes. And so when I did
Speaker 3: my new deal, did you ever get on TV all
Speaker 3: the time? I pretty much made like everyone even before
Speaker 3: I got the job, yeah, and so yeah and so yeah,
Speaker 3: because like when the one time, like probably about during
Speaker 3: like the during COVID, I tweeted it one time.
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, how much do y'all think DC ways?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: This is before I had a show with him, and
Speaker 3: he like tweeted me back. He was like, man, I'm retired, bro,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, gumbo jump a live or
Speaker 3: whatever to answer that question right. And so I got
Speaker 3: to I got a pilot. So in my deal, I
Speaker 3: was going to get a pilot. So say say I
Speaker 3: wanted to do Say. I was like I could have
Speaker 3: called you and been like, hey, man, ESPN Plus wants
Speaker 3: me to do a show like I love to do
Speaker 3: some form of busting with the boys. Can I come
Speaker 3: talk to you, chop it up about how y'all do it?
Speaker 3: Produce it, talk to your people. I could have went
Speaker 3: to ESPN and say, you know, yeah, like I want
Speaker 3: to do a show something like this, but I had
Speaker 3: to find the making of where I had to find
Speaker 3: my people to do it. And so what happened Ario least, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what. And they give DC a list of names,
Speaker 3: and I guess none of the people were of the
Speaker 3: m m A community though, right, So it was like
Speaker 3: actors like other analysts. But they wanted the show to
Speaker 3: like broaden his reach. And they wanted because obviously you
Speaker 3: got DC, like if you want real fighting out like
Speaker 3: the dude does detail like Peyton Manning does detail.
Speaker 2: He's crazy.
Speaker 3: He's crazy good, right And so uh And so I
Speaker 3: met d C probably four four years ago or so
Speaker 3: in the airport. We're walking through Atlanta and he's like, Ryan,
Speaker 3: what's up? And we're talking and like I remember walking
Speaker 3: away and calling my son Jordan. I was like, Jordan,
Speaker 3: you what I was like, Bro, Damn call me and
Speaker 3: knows who I am?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: your dad might be a star, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So and so like he picked me, man, and and
Speaker 3: my my boss called me. He's kind of running down
Speaker 3: my schedule for the season. And he goes, oh, one
Speaker 3: more thing. There's this DC uh is getting a new
Speaker 3: part and he needs a new show. They want you
Speaker 3: to do ESPN Plus in the podcast with him, do
Speaker 3: you want to do it? And I was like yeah, man,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm fired.
Speaker 2: Up, and like I'm yeah, I do it.
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh, and so they're trying to
Speaker 3: start it live in Vegas, like there's some fight in
Speaker 3: early July. I was like, oh McGregor Pourier and I
Speaker 3: was like yeah, Like they want you to be there
Speaker 3: to start the show then, and like go to the
Speaker 3: fight and stuff. I was like, man, you know, it's
Speaker 3: like whatever the network needs, bro, like that sh the brand.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's what they need me to do.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'll just make myself available, like I
Speaker 3: have some things, but yeah, I'll move bro. I hung
Speaker 3: that like I hung that phone up. I was chumping,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so and so, bro
Speaker 3: and so like we do the first one and I
Speaker 3: think it's really good, right, Yeah, I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: talking about studied, bro, Like I'm watching like all kinds
Speaker 3: of old fights, like I'm really into.
Speaker 2: It and we do it.
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Speaker 3: So so the little time you're reading that, look what
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, all the tier ones are gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's probably why you said that about Derrick Heary, because
Speaker 3: even Will said it, you have it wreck.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just bottle ned. He's projecting right right.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it. You you had some comments
Speaker 1: about Derek Henry last year.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need some memory. There we go, Derrick Henry
Speaker 2: doesn't run over anybody.
Speaker 1: Close to his size dot dot. I assume there's some
Speaker 1: more contact in there. That's usually what that means. Has
Speaker 1: late play bravery. Now I'm gonna step back. I was
Speaker 1: on the team, you know, in my head like okay,
Speaker 1: we were gonna we were gonna humble the Steelers, which
Speaker 1: we showed up in the second half almost at that
Speaker 1: we didn't show up at the beginning of the game.
Speaker 1: Rebel toasted after the game that we should have beat him.
Speaker 1: So I believe him. But go ahead, I'm gonna step back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take this quote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so so here's here you rally cry for
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Nation and try to get a love to bro.
Speaker 3: I know they were so fired up. Gosh I was
Speaker 3: that was such a great play by me, such a
Speaker 3: great TV moment. So here's the thing, right, and in
Speaker 3: sitting in that seat and sitting in that seat, it's
Speaker 3: it's very hard to get away from who you are,
Speaker 3: right you play with me, Like getting to run over
Speaker 3: was never a thought on mine, because I feel like
Speaker 3: gunfighters get shot, right, Like, if you run up in
Speaker 3: there enough, you're gonna get ran over. Like that that's
Speaker 3: what happens. Like it's not a big deal. But and
Speaker 3: and you're not necessarily yet in this world, but you
Speaker 3: will be because you're good at this job. When you
Speaker 3: get around no offense to these people. When you get
Speaker 3: around normal people, they see life different than we see it,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that that whole time
Speaker 3: I had been in meetings with people all week that
Speaker 3: just talked about Josh Norman getting stiff formed, right, and
Speaker 3: just from the plain football perspective or the physical perspective,
Speaker 3: one dude six' four arms Like gianni's.
Speaker 2: Bro any photo he has, them just, like how does
Speaker 2: this dude get?
Speaker 3: Bigger like if you, can't your arms ain't longer than,
Speaker 3: his you ain't stronger than, His you're gonna get stiff,
Speaker 3: Form like getting stiff formed is not to me necessarily
Speaker 3: as physical of a play as the common world makes, it, right,
Speaker 3: right and so and.
Speaker 2: So because now you got, memes now you got, video,
Speaker 2: right and SO i just kept hearing.
Speaker 3: It and then if you think about his two most
Speaker 3: famous stiff form was Turning Earl thomas into a lead
Speaker 3: blocker right from a, tackler and then The Josh norman
Speaker 3: thing two people.
Speaker 2: That i'm bigger than And i'm not big, right and.
Speaker 3: So LIKE i just kept hearing, it AND i was like,
Speaker 3: Bruh like, yes like look at the, dude He's Chase
Speaker 3: young that plays running back and that's, Faster like that's gonna, happen,
Speaker 3: Right but WHEN i Watched Derrick henry's run, style, right
Speaker 3: his run style is straight up right and so there
Speaker 3: are PEOPLE i have lost to in the open. Field
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, Saying Like i've been in the open.
Speaker 3: Field like Ray rice ran me over one time in
Speaker 3: open field AND i grabbed.
Speaker 2: His leg and like held. On he made the. Tackle,
Speaker 2: YEAH i made the.
Speaker 3: Tackle but then but he walked over to like the
Speaker 3: crowd and he's, flexing And i'm pissed off just because
Speaker 3: Like i'm, like, oh you understand. Football you know what this.
Speaker 3: WAS i had to break. DOWN i had to break
Speaker 3: down in the middle of the. FIELD i still got you.
Speaker 2: Down you're supposed to score in. Practice you're getting hyped
Speaker 2: up right, Defense, like, yo let's go.
Speaker 3: Right, right right, right and so and so and so
Speaker 3: we get to the sideline of that. Play i'm going
Speaker 3: off subject. Here i'll be back. Right so we get
Speaker 3: to the sideline AND i Tell Vince. WILLIAMS i was,
Speaker 3: LIKE i need you to give me a small. Space
Speaker 3: and he's, like what are you talking? ABOUT i, SAID i,
Speaker 3: said IF i, said If i'm inserting in the, RUN
Speaker 3: i need you to make sure that you have your
Speaker 3: blocker in the place to where Ray rice doesn't have
Speaker 3: a long way to. Go and here's WHY i say
Speaker 3: that's the right man to talk to, you, Right, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: So but here's WHY i say. THAT i feel like
Speaker 3: that in that, moment right in that moment WHERE i
Speaker 3: know you only got one spot to. Go you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i know you only got one spot to. Go there's
Speaker 3: only one way out of, there like you got to
Speaker 3: go through. Me and in my in my thirteen years
Speaker 3: OF nfl, Football i've never lost that play. Ever you
Speaker 3: can look at, it you can go try to find.
Speaker 3: It in thirteen years of football a small, space you
Speaker 3: ain't got nowhere to. GO i ain't gonna never lose
Speaker 3: that play Because i'm gonna put my hands behind my,
Speaker 3: back jump off two, feet and we ain't gonna stop
Speaker 3: till my face mask hit your face, mask, period, Right
Speaker 3: and so like that's the WAY i see. Football get
Speaker 3: and in that way of seeing, football, right because you
Speaker 3: get all the tweets Of Tennessee tights. Fans me in my,
Speaker 3: PRIME i like my chances against twenty, two, Right and
Speaker 3: ALL i said that week was in that. Moment ever
Speaker 3: seeing him in that moment against people his, SIZE i
Speaker 3: haven't seen him drop a shoulder and run through.
Speaker 2: People but, yeah when he get back there by DB's, hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah he tossing him like that's the, thing and this
Speaker 3: is not for me what Camera i'm looking. AT i
Speaker 3: Think Derrick henry is a great running. Back he's one
Speaker 3: of the top running backs in the. League, YES i
Speaker 3: can say that and still believe all those other Things
Speaker 3: i've said are. True, Right and so in that you
Speaker 3: go back To, cleveland Short yordage near the goal, line
Speaker 3: has an opportunity with one. Linebacker the linebacker gets him
Speaker 3: down right splaying in that. Situation you can't totally take
Speaker 3: that right because you got a little bit OF. Tj
Speaker 3: watt there to Where derek really can't run through.
Speaker 1: It and we're Big splain, fans right because he was With. Tennessee,
Speaker 1: FRANK i love.
Speaker 3: Him but if you, watch if you Watch derek's feet
Speaker 3: at those, moments they stop. Right it's not one of
Speaker 3: those situations where he gets in that moment and it's, like,
Speaker 3: not it's time to accelerate through this guy's. Chest but,
Speaker 3: yeah IF i got you off to the side AND
Speaker 3: i can get this long ass alien arm on your,
Speaker 3: chin strap on your, chin on your face, Mask i'm
Speaker 3: finna toss. You and so WHAT i said about the
Speaker 3: late play bravery was so much of like the safety
Speaker 3: in me just being tired of hearing it and like
Speaker 3: and to my, fault, right to my. FAULT i shouldn't
Speaker 3: have done it that, way you know What i'm, saying
Speaker 3: way like the way LIKE i did, it in the
Speaker 3: WAY i DO. Tv, RIGHT i did it in talking like,
Speaker 3: This BUT i felt like it.
Speaker 2: Made it to talk about making it, Theatrical, yeah which is.
Speaker 1: Part but you're YOU'RE i mean you played for The,
Speaker 1: steelers like it was two teams out of what are
Speaker 1: our records and we're both.
Speaker 2: Undefeated huge game and so it's a huge.
Speaker 3: Game, right and so but Like i'm ON tv, though
Speaker 3: and Like stephen And max or like talking to, me
Speaker 3: like people should be scared Of Derrick. Henry and WHAT
Speaker 3: i was trying to explain, is, no you should be
Speaker 3: scared Of Derrick, henry, right you, know like like and
Speaker 3: like and like that was the POINT i was trying
Speaker 3: to get. Across you should be scared of. HIM i
Speaker 3: ain't scared of, him like When John, Jones like When John, jones,
Speaker 3: UH i forget WHO i think it was at The
Speaker 3: francis beat Step a, right And John jones puts out
Speaker 3: this video and he was, like y'all, saying LIKE i
Speaker 3: should be scared Of Steep francis And.
Speaker 2: Gandu he's, like you probably, Ain't John.
Speaker 3: Jones AND i felt that because you know, WHY i
Speaker 3: Saw francis And gandu in The vegas and the lobby
Speaker 3: and the, lobby And i'm.
Speaker 2: Scared you know What i'm, Saying, Yeah, john you, Right,
Speaker 2: JOHN i. AM i ain't.
Speaker 3: You i'm. Scared you cannot be. Scared but When Myles
Speaker 3: garrett with hands walks through the, lobby it makes me,
Speaker 3: nervous you, know and so and so like and like.
Speaker 2: That's WHAT i was.
Speaker 3: Feeling and then like, finally like ON TV, bro BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i had been fighting it all, morning it balled over
Speaker 3: AND i said it that, way AND i, actually, like
Speaker 3: for the first time in a long, TIME i felt
Speaker 3: bad BECAUSE i really Respect Derrick henry in the sense
Speaker 3: that when you look at somebody like that, big that,
Speaker 3: fast that much, vision that type of lateral, movement like
Speaker 3: he really is a very good. Back like this guy
Speaker 3: has a chance to be A hall Of famer if,
Speaker 3: this if this continues two or three more, years whatever
Speaker 3: happens after that could. Happen he's probably gonna be A
Speaker 3: hall Of, famer AND i get, that but in that,
Speaker 3: moment BRO i was, like, nah LIKE i ain't never
Speaker 3: seen him against somebody who could look. Him nobody looks,
Speaker 3: him dang their eyed eye could look him. Almost who
Speaker 3: can hook him up in the? Eye who can who
Speaker 3: can be on the same rack in the weight, room
Speaker 3: not necessarily with the same, weight but on the same,
Speaker 3: rack so the coaches ain't got to take a lot
Speaker 3: of weight.
Speaker 2: OFF i ain't.
Speaker 3: Never seen him move those people when they were standing
Speaker 3: right in front of each. Other and to be, honest
Speaker 3: at this point in my, life which is a year,
Speaker 3: LATER i still.
Speaker 2: Haven't and that doesn't mean that he.
Speaker 3: Can't it just means that he. Hasn't and like that
Speaker 3: was the. Point the POINT i made is one not only.
Speaker 3: Right two it's, true it doesn't mean and it doesn't mean.
Speaker 1: But there's still he's still playing like it can happen
Speaker 1: this year and then, no it's no longer, true.
Speaker 3: Correct but it was true at the. Time and you
Speaker 3: know what happens when he does. IT i go ON
Speaker 3: tv AND i, say you know, What, derek you did
Speaker 3: SOMETHING i said you couldn't do same way that people
Speaker 3: had to sit around and, say you.
Speaker 2: Know, what you're.
Speaker 3: Honest you were seventeen for nineteen in a close out
Speaker 3: game in the. Finals the STUFF i said then that was,
Speaker 3: TRUE i can no longer. Say and so then if
Speaker 3: anything happens after, THAT i can't, Say Derreck carrey ain't
Speaker 3: never made his own, hole, Right Derek carrey ain't never
Speaker 3: stumped on somebody's chest without all the stiff for.
Speaker 2: HIM i can't say. That but guess what right? Now tier?
Speaker 2: Ones right, NOW.
Speaker 3: I LOVE i just got The tier one right, Now
Speaker 3: Tennessee titans, FANS i can still say it and guess,
Speaker 3: what he.
Speaker 2: Could still be a good, back Right like what?
Speaker 1: Sucks what sucks? Too AND i know you feel this
Speaker 1: way when you were a. Player it was is the
Speaker 1: fact that the worst case that comes from you is
Speaker 1: you're LIKE i get to go ON i can go
Speaker 1: ON tv and be, like, Look, derek he did he did.
Speaker 1: This it is now no longer. True he has ran over.
Speaker 1: Somebody like you can say all this stuff and that's
Speaker 1: that is your h like, punishment right like you don't
Speaker 1: have to answer, that that's your way of getting around.
Speaker 2: It like that's what.
Speaker 1: Sucks as like a, player AND i wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about that, too is like going fully to that other,
Speaker 1: side to where you have to be so objective to
Speaker 1: where you know that you're gonna, Get like you know
Speaker 1: the boys in the locker. Room you're not that far,
Speaker 1: removed even probably when you had to talk about Your steelers.
Speaker 2: At times when they weren't playing that.
Speaker 1: Well like some of the words are, Like, yo why
Speaker 1: is r he saying talking like that when there's zero
Speaker 1: context to the whole. Thing obviously you got to do
Speaker 1: it within like thirty, seconds but now you're your punishment
Speaker 1: for that is like when he does do, it AND
Speaker 1: i will be the first one to go ON.
Speaker 2: Tv but that's your. Cycle that gets to be your cycle,
Speaker 2: Now like.
Speaker 3: That's that's you as a player when you made, It
Speaker 3: like when you made that, play like if somebody's sitting
Speaker 3: there or that, oh.
Speaker 1: We get to that story, Too like when that that
Speaker 1: inch away from making that play on that ball In
Speaker 1: Super bowl forty five With Aaron rodgers and SOMEBODY O
Speaker 1: Ryan clark is out.
Speaker 2: THERE i haven't seen him make that play blah blah.
Speaker 1: Blah, right and then that YOUNG rc sitting there as an,
Speaker 1: athlete you know you're thinking.
Speaker 2: That our c ON tv is kind of living a
Speaker 2: little rent free in your.
Speaker 1: Head but you're, Like i'm gonna prove that. Wrong when
Speaker 1: you prove it, wrong that person just gets to go ON.
Speaker 2: Tv, okay he made the.
Speaker 3: Play, YEAH i mean that's the that's the beauty of.
Speaker 3: It but you know, what two, though Will, MAN i
Speaker 3: will say, this like the one Thing i'll never do
Speaker 3: is speak to the character or the character of ball
Speaker 3: integrity of a. Person you know What i'm, Saying LIKE
Speaker 3: i don't Think Derrick henry is. SCARED i just think
Speaker 3: that's the way he, runs you. KNOW i think that's
Speaker 3: who he. Is you, Know LIKE i wasn't ever LIKE
Speaker 3: i was never going to go into the meeting with
Speaker 3: Coach lebou and be, like hey, man when they ain't
Speaker 3: three pox one And Randy moss is on the, BACKSIDE
Speaker 3: i want you to put me man to man right
Speaker 3: because you know WHY i can't cover, Him like that's
Speaker 3: not my game and so and SO i, think you,
Speaker 3: know and SO i think that like that's the like
Speaker 3: that's the one other thing. Too it's like you could
Speaker 3: BE i can be as complementary of a guy AS
Speaker 3: i want all the. Time but if something is true to, me,
Speaker 3: right because let's not say it's. True IF i feel
Speaker 3: Like i've watched enough film to be able to make
Speaker 3: a statement about the way someone plays and his fans
Speaker 3: don't like, it.
Speaker 2: Then you can never be.
Speaker 3: Right also, too not only is that the punishment you
Speaker 3: don't get to come back from that will, right like
Speaker 3: like even, now like WHEN i, said LIKE i GOTTA
Speaker 3: i gotta whole thread the other Day Derrick henry stiff
Speaker 3: arming people his size when when ONE i know he
Speaker 3: steps arms people like that wasn't my, comment you know
Speaker 3: What i'm saying like, That like that wasn't LIKE i
Speaker 3: get it he could do. That, Nah i'm talking about
Speaker 3: face up me and you like you know and so
Speaker 3: like you just we're we're in a position where if
Speaker 3: you don't say good things about everyone all the, time
Speaker 3: you can't be loved by everyone all the.
Speaker 2: Time Dan orlowski.
Speaker 3: Everybody who is super smart sent me a text me
Speaker 3: And Marcus spears actually and he was, like you, know,
Speaker 3: man he just, SAID i Hope dan doesn't get mad about,
Speaker 3: this just saying LIKE i love the way that you
Speaker 3: guys aren't scared to be, wrong and LIKE i didn't
Speaker 3: know how to take it at, first BECAUSE i was,
Speaker 3: like is he.
Speaker 2: Saying i'm wrong a? Lot you know What i'm. SAYING
Speaker 2: i was, like dang d do you feel Like i'm
Speaker 2: wrong a?
Speaker 3: Lot and But, dan it's a. Sweetheart SO i didn't
Speaker 3: take it that. Way and WHAT i told him is.
Speaker 3: THIS i was, like, one we are constantly trying to
Speaker 3: be prophetic about other adult, people, right we're trying to
Speaker 3: predict the future many times of what's gonna. HAPPEN i,
Speaker 3: said can't be? Right, like you just. CAN'T i, said
Speaker 3: but here's the. Thing it's okay to be. Wrong you
Speaker 3: just have to have a good reason for being. Wrong
Speaker 3: AND i think that's what's motivated the WAY i DO.
Speaker 3: Tv like IF i could go to the, like IF
Speaker 3: i can, say, well this is the, thing and here's
Speaker 3: the play of WHY i say why, right here's the
Speaker 3: play of WHY i think this. Thing you cannot agree with,
Speaker 3: me BUT i can, say here's the evidence that it, happens.
Speaker 3: Right and so that's always been my. Thing, now Say
Speaker 3: Derrick henry comes Out week, one he's faced up with
Speaker 3: somebody in the hole and runs over, him which he
Speaker 3: very well, could because he's a ginormous. Man right, THEN
Speaker 3: i could be, like, man shoot of all the Film
Speaker 3: i've ever, Watched, like that's the first TIME i Seen
Speaker 3: Derreck henry do. That, now if he's added that to his,
Speaker 3: game how do you stop this?
Speaker 2: Guy? Right and and and now it's a nice, way that's.
Speaker 2: It but it's not.
Speaker 3: That the thing that will bro LIKE i don't need
Speaker 3: a way out of, it you know What i'm, saying
Speaker 3: because because, no it's not even.
Speaker 2: That the thing IS i don't need a. Way so
Speaker 2: when he, does it will but you're gonna be, like,
Speaker 2: Hey i'm taking this.
Speaker 3: One but the thing is this Though tennessee, fans Right
Speaker 3: tier one fans right, ye are going to run to
Speaker 3: My twitter.
Speaker 2: To tell me about.
Speaker 3: It let me say it, again like like like like
Speaker 3: like like say. It let me say it. Again they're
Speaker 3: going to run to My twitter to say you know
Speaker 3: what else?
Speaker 2: Happens?
Speaker 3: Though every time he plays so, Well Deshaun, elliott which
Speaker 3: really wasn't a face up, here, Right derek makes a,
Speaker 3: Move deshaun sticks. Him guess what everybody? Did ran to my? Twitter,
Speaker 3: Right splaine sticks? Him what does everybody?
Speaker 2: Do run to My? Twitter so? Forever?
Speaker 3: Right Whether Derek herey wins a play or loses a, play.
Speaker 2: Everybody comes to me because they're trying to say and
Speaker 2: that's and So ryan's an. Investor so here's the hard. Part,
Speaker 2: Right so here's the hard.
Speaker 3: PART i never wanted TO i never wanted to walk
Speaker 3: that statement. Back BUT i also didn't want it to
Speaker 3: be THAT i was wishing and hoping For derek Can
Speaker 3: rey to, fail you know What i'm, saying, Right and
Speaker 3: so now and so now you're like you're Playing twitter
Speaker 3: double dutch when people sing you things, right because on
Speaker 3: the one, end you're getting things when he, loses and
Speaker 3: you kind of want to be, like, yeah that's you,
Speaker 3: know people like just Like Ryan clark said such as,
Speaker 3: such like you kind of want to be, like, yeah
Speaker 3: that's WHAT i, said. Right or you get him stiff
Speaker 3: forming like the big lineman last, year and you, know
Speaker 3: people like, say you say he doesn't stiff form people his,
Speaker 3: size and then they want to be, like, nah that
Speaker 3: wasn't WHAT i was talking. About and so now you
Speaker 3: got to play this game the whole time of people
Speaker 3: thinking you Hate Derrick henry when you really, don't like
Speaker 3: he's like every other running back in the, league like
Speaker 3: you hope he does, well it doesn't really put money
Speaker 3: in your pocket if he does or. Not but because
Speaker 3: you say, this, now this is now always attached to.
Speaker 3: You but that's part of the, gig you know What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying and so with that being part of the, gig
Speaker 3: the thing you gotta do is you got to figure
Speaker 3: out you got to figure out who you doing this.
Speaker 3: For The Tennessee titans fans are never gonna love me, holistically,
Speaker 3: Right they're never gonna love me, unconditionally even BEFORE i
Speaker 3: said that About Derrick, henry because they're.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll have a new respect now because you're on
Speaker 1: bust with the, boys, Right.
Speaker 3: But that's because you love. Me that's because you're my,
Speaker 3: family like my. Nephew this is you, know they didn't
Speaker 3: want you to have me on, here you just, did,
Speaker 3: Right so and so LIKE i gotta, LIKE i gotta
Speaker 3: accept that. Matter like you talk about locker room WHEN
Speaker 3: i would do my top five every, week, RIGHT espn
Speaker 3: just likes me to do it BECAUSE i do it
Speaker 3: in like a different, Way LIKE i barely talk about the.
Speaker 3: Team i'm just being funny and saying things and having
Speaker 3: a great, time just having a great. Time, RIGHT i
Speaker 3: didn't put The steelers, undefeated and they weren't my number one. Team,
Speaker 3: okay The Kansas City chiefs. Were and guess, WHAT i
Speaker 3: was right at the point because they were. Better and
Speaker 3: So Rick ebron AND i forget this tackle on this tackles.
Speaker 3: Name he was injured at the. Time active on SOCIAL tooa,
Speaker 3: right very, active, right he's got a. Podcast, YEAH i didn't.
Speaker 2: Know and so.
Speaker 3: You, know he said something about like me not putting
Speaker 3: them number one or whatever, whatever AND i was just,
Speaker 3: like oh, man you know there's reason behind, It LIKE
Speaker 3: i feel listen to. THIS i had you guys THAT
Speaker 3: i have you guys at number. Two WHATEVER i Think
Speaker 3: Kansas city may have lost or. SOMETHING i can't say
Speaker 3: that already. LOST i still have number, one and, uh you,
Speaker 3: Know and so LIKE i was being nice about, it you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like he probably feels some type of
Speaker 3: WAY i played For. STEELERS i was being nice about.
Speaker 3: It so he tweets me something, again, Right SO i
Speaker 3: tweet him, back AND i was, like and, like he's
Speaker 3: kind of joking at. LEAST i didn't really take it
Speaker 3: at that like that at, first but it felt like he, was,
Speaker 3: uh you, know SO i kind of joke back and say, yeah,
Speaker 3: man you're, right you, know but this is HOW i,
Speaker 3: felt SO i said. It so he has another. One
Speaker 3: now you come at me this many. Times, NOW i
Speaker 3: think we have a personal, problem RIGHT i, AM i
Speaker 3: am forty?
Speaker 2: One, right you got D i got ed from Apparently
Speaker 2: i'm gonna Go.
Speaker 3: Roman you, know and so like, eventually you, know like
Speaker 3: it got to the POINT i was, LIKE i don't
Speaker 3: play like that, though you know What i'm. SAYING i was, like,
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't know what they tell you about me around.
Speaker 3: THERE i was, like but like that whole like checking
Speaker 3: me and stuff that gets like one or two tweets
Speaker 3: While i'm cool with. It and then eventually it's we
Speaker 3: have a personal. Problem and the only WAY i know
Speaker 3: how to have no personal problems is like face to.
Speaker 3: FACE i was, like the same things they, Say, YEAH
Speaker 3: i was, like, yeah pretty. MUCH i was like the
Speaker 3: same THINGS i say ON. TV i was, LIKE i
Speaker 3: come to your locker room and, say you know WHAT i?
Speaker 3: Mean And banner was his, name and like he started
Speaker 3: saying some stuff and at the time like he.
Speaker 2: Was, hurt you know WHAT i.
Speaker 3: Mean and it took AND i can, admit Like i'm
Speaker 3: not the best person at all. Times it took a
Speaker 3: lot for me to not talk about what his career
Speaker 3: was before or that and then him now being. Hurt
Speaker 3: but it was basically, like, hey, man min your, business
Speaker 3: because then he jumped in with some, stuff you know
Speaker 3: What i'm, saying and so like, eventually Like eric was really,
Speaker 3: cool like he called me or he texted. Me you,
Speaker 3: know it was like he got he found my. Number
Speaker 3: he like asked like people and he texted, me and
Speaker 3: he was very respectful and he was, like, man you,
Speaker 3: Know i'm a clown this and, that AND i was very.
Speaker 3: HONEST i was LIKE i am to an, extent you.
Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like when to, me when you start
Speaker 3: coming at me in like that public, form LIKE i
Speaker 3: address it in that public. Form AND i was, like
Speaker 3: And i'm me every day all, Day like that's WHO i,
Speaker 3: am you. Know but those are the things like you
Speaker 3: deal with as a, Player like when you talk about
Speaker 3: your former, team it's like whereas talking about The Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: steelers in most of the time for, sure and unbiased
Speaker 3: fashion is great for my, job it's great FOR, espn
Speaker 3: it's great for how people see. Me but actually in the,
Speaker 3: building it's an, issue LIKE i get all the time
Speaker 3: for steel. Fans why don't you ever support? Us why
Speaker 3: don't you cheer for? Us, well BECAUSE i don't play
Speaker 3: there no, More like they ain't writing a, check you
Speaker 3: know What i'm, Saying Like i'm loyal to the people
Speaker 3: that write the, checks.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i was A steeler WHEN i was A.
Speaker 3: STEELER i was A washington team player WHEN i was
Speaker 3: A WASHINGTON i was A giant WHEN i was A,
Speaker 3: giant you. Know and this, weekend you, KNOW i didn't
Speaker 3: cry At. TROY'S i cried on the. PODCAST i didn't
Speaker 3: cry At. TROY'S i would have if he were to,
Speaker 3: cried but he. Didn't he was, strong AND i stayed.
Speaker 3: Strong and somebody asked, me you, know there's, like how
Speaker 3: can you not cry when he's talking about The steeler?
Speaker 3: Way AND i had to be very. HONEST i, said,
Speaker 3: well my weight had to be my.
Speaker 2: WAY i.
Speaker 3: SAID i was just blessed that my way fit with
Speaker 3: The steelers for so. Long you know What i'm, Saying
Speaker 3: LIKE i wasn't. Drafted you, KNOW i was told By
Speaker 3: Tom coughlin after year or two he didn't THINK i
Speaker 3: could play in that, league that the arena that they
Speaker 3: had arena football that they had football In, canada that
Speaker 3: special teams was WHAT i had to work. On then
Speaker 3: in week Two i'm in the next the same, Year
Speaker 3: i'm facing Up Tiki barber in the second half of a,
Speaker 3: game you.
Speaker 2: Know WHAT i.
Speaker 3: Mean and so to, me it's, like, though Why i'm loyal.
Speaker 2: To people not?
Speaker 3: Places you know What i'm? Saying DO i Love? Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3: Like was it great to be A? Steeler DID i Retire?
Speaker 3: Steeler were the best eight years of my football career
Speaker 3: being A? Steeler where the lifelong RELATIONSHIPS i have being A?
Speaker 3: Steeler absolutely? Right but when my people are gone from that,
Speaker 3: PLACE i don't owe that building.
Speaker 2: Anything BUT i owe that building is the same THING
Speaker 2: i owe all.
Speaker 3: The other thirty thirty one buildings is to assess them
Speaker 3: fairly based on what they do as it pertains to.
Speaker 2: Football AND i dealt with that With.
Speaker 3: ANTONIO i deal with that with rankings like that that's
Speaker 3: just what it. Is and oh, yeah and you know
Speaker 3: and and so man, like that's what, like that's the
Speaker 3: thing about the. Job but that's the, thing, like that's
Speaker 3: the thing about. Life Man, Like when people don't get
Speaker 3: that the reason a lot of this is addressed or
Speaker 3: people say things is because like WHEN I i DO
Speaker 3: tv now in the way THAT i do, it like
Speaker 3: that's really, me you know What i'm, Saying Like i'm
Speaker 3: not a characterture of. Myself LIKE i don't go ON
Speaker 3: tv and act Like i'm not on this bus like
Speaker 3: acting like this really is. Me and so the way
Speaker 3: that people perceive this is the way that people perceive.
Speaker 3: Me and in a lot of, ways like that authenticity
Speaker 3: is what's made me successful.
Speaker 2: Now but it's also the.
Speaker 3: Thing that makes you vulnerable to critiques because IF i
Speaker 3: Know i'm, lying you can't hurt my, feelings you know
Speaker 3: What i'm, Saying like IF i, know like IF i
Speaker 3: go on the, show IF i go on a, show
Speaker 3: bro to say something THAT i don't, believe WHICH i
Speaker 3: have sometimes you, know like you go on first take
Speaker 3: and you get the little sheet and they'll be Like
Speaker 3: max is gonna say?
Speaker 2: This this Is max.
Speaker 3: Answer they don't tell you like what they're gonna, say
Speaker 3: but they'll be like no For, max yes for seing
Speaker 3: side all that right and the, like and they'll do,
Speaker 3: that and LIKE i may like if If i'm on
Speaker 3: If i'm in a situation to Where i'm not attached
Speaker 3: to an. Answer i'll just answered differently and understand Why
Speaker 3: i'm answering that, way have great reasoning for answering that,
Speaker 3: way but not really be attached to it Because i'm, like,
Speaker 3: WELL i could have answered that question in four or
Speaker 3: five different. WAYS i just chose the one way that
Speaker 3: was different from those two because it would have been born.
Speaker 2: As hell for me to be Like, Max SO i.
Speaker 3: Agree now there's some Things i'm so tied to as an,
Speaker 3: answer and that is so much a part of. ME
Speaker 3: i can't do, That like are you just gonna have
Speaker 3: to have a born ass, show? Right or like even
Speaker 3: like during The kaepernick stuff WHEN i was still WHEN
Speaker 3: i was, working there were so many production meetings where
Speaker 3: they would, say are you going to say that ON?
Speaker 3: Tv AND i used to be, like hell, yeah and
Speaker 3: they'd be, like we're not going to ask. You AND
Speaker 3: i got it right because it was not that just
Speaker 3: that that didn't just save the, network that saved, me
Speaker 3: you know What i'm. Saying like when WHEN i wore
Speaker 3: A kaepernick jersey On mike And mike the week After
Speaker 3: greeney Wore Trevor simme and, jersey AND i got a
Speaker 3: call that said you can't do. THAT i, said, well why,
Speaker 3: RIGHT i, said Greeney, Wood trevor send me In jersey last.
Speaker 3: WEEK i figured he wore a jersey of a quarterback he.
Speaker 3: LIKED i do a jersey of a QUARTERBACK i. Liked
Speaker 3: and they were, like, nah but you know what it.
Speaker 3: MEANS i was, LIKE i absolutely. Do so tell me
Speaker 3: THAT i can't wear it because of. That you see
Speaker 3: What i'm saying and so, Like but but that was,
Speaker 3: Me like that wasn't some dude PLAYING.
Speaker 2: TV i did that As Ryan. Clark you.
Speaker 3: KNOW i had to ask my old lady BEFORE i went, on,
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't know how this is going to. Play
Speaker 3: are you okay with whatever happens after?
Speaker 2: This you?
Speaker 3: Know and so though like the media, thing man is
Speaker 3: like super, Cool you're gonna like you have to find
Speaker 3: a balance of like what part of the game are
Speaker 3: you willing to? Play AND i THINK i think they
Speaker 3: eventually get to the point where they, know like you
Speaker 3: want what's best for the, team but you ain't playing the,
Speaker 3: Game AND i think that's the best place to be.
Speaker 3: In like they KNOW i want to do entertaining GREAT.
Speaker 3: Tv they also KNOW i don't want to DO tv
Speaker 3: to make. Friends you know What i'm. SAYING i think
Speaker 3: once they get, that they respect you so much that
Speaker 3: they take care of, you which is kind of WHERE i.
Speaker 2: Am and that's what we, Said thank, you.
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Speaker 1: to you for three. Hours OBVIOUSLY i. Can't you got
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Speaker 1: SEE i have a couple. Questions number, one What's Skip?
Speaker 2: Bayles? Like i'm sure a lot of people probably ask,
Speaker 2: you BUT.
Speaker 3: I just want to know you tell you earlier when you, said,
Speaker 3: Uh max is gonna Say max is gonna play into
Speaker 3: this one the bill like you you essentially like they
Speaker 3: see that they're building like characters kind of like MAYBE
Speaker 3: ww in a way like they Know skip.
Speaker 2: Could be the.
Speaker 1: Villain skip kind of he knows a role he's. In
Speaker 1: BUT i want to know what's this man? Like because
Speaker 1: at times he's a most hated.
Speaker 3: Man In, america So i'm probably about the. BEHAVIOR i
Speaker 3: really really Like Skip.
Speaker 1: BALIS i felt, LIKE i feel like that's, consensus because
Speaker 1: why else would he.
Speaker 3: Be, YEAH i LIKE i like him just because too, like,
Speaker 3: uh he's he's he's more, quiet he's, quieter more soft, spoken,
Speaker 3: away but a true wealth of knowledge. Though and he
Speaker 3: was one of those people that because it's such a competitive,
Speaker 3: business you, know, RIGHT i feel LIKE i feel like
Speaker 3: everybody feels like the ten year vet who plays the
Speaker 3: position the first rounder just got drafted, in you.
Speaker 2: KNOW i feel like a lot of people feel, Like,
Speaker 2: MAN i.
Speaker 3: CAN'T i can't really give you these, things or tell
Speaker 3: you these, things or give you these flowers in front of,
Speaker 3: people because that may infringe upon WHAT i. HAVE i
Speaker 3: think he was so secure and what he had built
Speaker 3: that he was he was always willing, to like have those,
Speaker 3: conversations always willing, to you, know help you out and
Speaker 3: help you understand parts of the, business bring you in
Speaker 3: to the. Show Stephen a has gotten a lot like
Speaker 3: that that. Too max from day one has been one
Speaker 3: of my favorite. People AND i think because he's kind
Speaker 3: of Like max is exactly like he is ON. Tv
Speaker 3: skip was harder, though, right because you had this picture
Speaker 3: of Who skip. Was but you also have to remember
Speaker 3: the first thing he ever said to me or about
Speaker 3: me really other than, Hello, skip WAS i just want
Speaker 3: everybody to know of every, athlete of every entertainer that's
Speaker 3: ever can't come in, Here Ryan clark's the most, prepared you.
Speaker 2: Know so we started on such a good. Note and
Speaker 2: he didn't ever talk on you before you got that
Speaker 2: like as a.
Speaker 1: Player oh you, know he's like a Big cowboys, Guy like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you, know you, know we had the whole
Speaker 3: thing with Steven a the. Athletes remember they had the
Speaker 3: athletes versus commentator thing When Richard sherman Told skip he
Speaker 3: was better at life then yeah. Yeah and so like
Speaker 3: during that, TIME i went on one day and Stephen
Speaker 3: a wasn't, on and like the whole thing came, up
Speaker 3: and like STEVEN a was talking about like how athletes
Speaker 3: won his job and they don't have degrees and carrying
Speaker 3: on or, whatever and you, Know i'm a manship mass
Speaker 3: communications Graduate Louisiana State, university you, know and so like
Speaker 3: it was my, major you, Know and SO i was
Speaker 3: on the show AND i was, LIKE, WHOA i can't
Speaker 3: do your, job AND i do have a, degree and
Speaker 3: my hairline ain't push, back you, know and so it's
Speaker 3: not still. Not and so WHEN i WHEN i said,
Speaker 3: that you, know he. Wasn't Steven a wasn't there that,
Speaker 3: day And skip was kind of like, quiet like he.
Speaker 2: Let me say, it ain't say.
Speaker 3: Nothing and So bro like the next day Like skip
Speaker 3: was egg and Stephen a on And steven they went,
Speaker 3: hard you, know Like i'll come to the locker room
Speaker 3: And i'll say it in the.
Speaker 2: Stutic vocabulary To steve and he just starts throwing.
Speaker 3: Words, Right so Now i'm, confused yeah, Too and so
Speaker 3: he says all this at a Time, no we were
Speaker 3: like twelve or four like throughout the last four. Years
Speaker 3: So i'm, like that's, Stupid like we're just saying about
Speaker 3: my team not being, Good like that's. Dumb and so
Speaker 3: he's going through all this, stuff which is, fine right
Speaker 3: because he had to shoot. BACK i wasn't. THERE i
Speaker 3: kept felt some kind of way, though BECAUSE i was, Like,
Speaker 3: skip you could have said something yesterday or whatever DAY
Speaker 3: i was. On all of a, sudden Stephen a's back
Speaker 3: And mum's the word and all that. Stuff and at the,
Speaker 3: End Bro Stephen ages and as for anything, Else Ryan
Speaker 3: clark knows what he can kiss and like all the
Speaker 3: rest of. IT i was like laughing because it was
Speaker 3: like all, football you. Know and then when he said,
Speaker 3: THAT i was, like, Oh STEPHEN. A smith wants to fight?
Speaker 3: Me like that was like immediately my, thought you. Know
Speaker 3: and So Gaileen. GORDON i Think galen's working with like
Speaker 3: ABC's like super big time. Now at the, time he
Speaker 3: was producing the show and him And steve and they
Speaker 3: are like jam. Tight BUT i talked To gaillen BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i built on the show or. Whatever AND i called
Speaker 3: him and he was having like an event In New
Speaker 3: orleans and at the, TIME i you, KNOW i lived
Speaker 3: In Van ruges in the off, season AND i was, like,
Speaker 3: bro you gonna have to cancel your. Event he's, like,
Speaker 3: Well i'm a whip him straight. UP i was like
Speaker 3: all the other stuff was. COOL i was, like but,
Speaker 3: man gonna tell me kiss his? ASS i was like
Speaker 3: On NATIONAL. TV i was, like him means he wants
Speaker 3: to fight, me you. Know and it was AND i.
Speaker 3: CALLED i got calls like hey, man you got to pick.
Speaker 3: One you either got to uninvite me or you got
Speaker 3: to cancel. It because either, way Like i'm. Fighting and
Speaker 3: it was my first conversation with Stephen. A he called
Speaker 3: me that day and first, thing AND i, LIKE i
Speaker 3: would respect him forever for. THIS i wish he did
Speaker 3: it ON tv because you, know you kind of shine
Speaker 3: on me ON. Tv you can do it ON. Tv
Speaker 3: but it was, cool And.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he wre one day and talking about how
Speaker 2: well he knows, you.
Speaker 3: And he was, like but he was, like, uh, FIRST
Speaker 3: i want to. Apologize you. Know he's, like HOW I
Speaker 3: he's like WHAT i said was like was. Wrong he's,
Speaker 3: like not the STUFF i said before. That he's, like
Speaker 3: BUT i get why why you are upset about. That
Speaker 3: AND i was actually In Southside. PITTSBURGH i was going to.
Speaker 3: EAT i was going to a place called The Commas
Speaker 3: He'll Botchy, spot AND i stood outside of the spot
Speaker 3: for like an hour and we just talked and he
Speaker 3: just and like he's become one of my, best my greatest.
Speaker 3: Mentors like there but even with, that like he don't
Speaker 3: play with, me you know What i'm. Saying it's like
Speaker 3: sometimes like you gotta let people know that you are
Speaker 3: little throwed. Off if you are a little throwed, off
Speaker 3: because it helps. Them it helps you help them not
Speaker 3: do anything that's gonna get them in a fight with.
Speaker 3: You AND i don't know if you follow, that but
Speaker 3: trying to what it means, is it's, like it's like, this,
Speaker 3: right IF i don't want to Fight Will, compton, right
Speaker 3: BUT i know that there are things that will Trigger
Speaker 3: Will compton to fight.
Speaker 2: Me you know What i'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Do i'm gonna make SURE i don't do none of
Speaker 3: those things right BECAUSE i know that he'll click out
Speaker 3: and we have an issue now IF.
Speaker 1: I, like if you look at him the wrong, way,
Speaker 1: right ANYTIME i see that with it like a, Teammate
Speaker 1: i'm just, like, hey, man like what kind of life
Speaker 1: have you?
Speaker 3: LIVED i actually felt that, Way LIKE i went to
Speaker 3: a bro like that's who's no longer exists In New
Speaker 3: orleans's so, yeah like he played AND i played d
Speaker 3: in and he was one hundred and forty pounds at high. School,
Speaker 3: yeah and he ran four two though a pro. Day
Speaker 3: so that's. Crazy they played d in the high school
Speaker 3: and so, man you, know so like that's been like
Speaker 3: that's been a crazy thing ABOUT tv man is like
Speaker 3: understanding that some of these, guys some of these guys
Speaker 3: who are just really good at their jobs aren't necessarily
Speaker 3: those same. People like if you Watch skip baillis, now
Speaker 3: WHAT i think he's done a great job of is
Speaker 3: he understands That Shannon sharp has a certain following that
Speaker 3: he brings to the show that's, good a certain a certain,
Speaker 3: charisma a certain a certain. Factor, Right, Shannon Shannon sharp
Speaker 3: is a, Dunker, Right So Shannon sharp Needs Chris, paul,
Speaker 3: Right like Like DeAndre, jordan he didn't Need Blake, griffin
Speaker 3: but he Needed Chris.
Speaker 2: Paul and so WHAT.
Speaker 3: I, think WHAT i Think skip has done an amazing
Speaker 3: job of is Whether shannon believes it In shannon Loves? Lebron,
Speaker 3: Right skip's always felt a certain way about Lebronh, yeah
Speaker 3: but but but if you watch if you Watch, skip,
Speaker 3: now every other person in the world at some point
Speaker 3: is the best player in the, world Never.
Speaker 2: Lebron yeah, Right but but what does it do For?
Speaker 3: Shannon it Allows shannon to wear goattheads and jerseys and
Speaker 3: show that he still swollen even in his. Fifties right
Speaker 3: and so and so and so In truth And, Truth
Speaker 3: skip has kept himself relevant by saying things even we
Speaker 3: don't think he believes in a way that makes us
Speaker 3: think he might believe.
Speaker 2: It and now that's the whole. Thing it's like a.
Speaker 3: Mystery it's, like how does this douse? You, like ain't
Speaker 3: no way you? Like, bro he won the fourth, one
Speaker 3: like it's the tenth. One he come, on, bro like
Speaker 3: especially when he dies on the hill for The. Cowboys
Speaker 3: but you can't at some point see some kind of
Speaker 3: light With Lebron, james, right and and and so and,
Speaker 3: SO i think, like because he has done that and
Speaker 3: he's stuck with, that it's now created this persona or
Speaker 3: this aura that you love to. Hate and so in,
Speaker 3: truth guys Like, skip guys Like Steven ay like they're
Speaker 3: really they're really media media geniuses in that they've mastered their,
Speaker 3: craft which is which is the job THAT i have
Speaker 3: not mastered and probably will.
Speaker 2: Not but you, know that's just a, thing you know
Speaker 2: WHAT i? Mean BUT i, think Man, tuto.
Speaker 3: You know, one whenever The Mount rushmore swings back, AROUND i.
Speaker 2: Just want to BE i want to Be Mount. Busmore i'm,
Speaker 2: Sorry Mount.
Speaker 3: BUSMORE i want to be one of the twenty seven
Speaker 3: people you, mentioned even if not one of the, four
Speaker 3: not one of.
Speaker 2: The four that makes it because we all know how
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i was just LIKE i. WAS i forget
Speaker 1: WHO i was talking to the other. Day but it's, like,
Speaker 1: hey It's Mount. BUSMORE i can have as many people
Speaker 1: AS i went on the On Mount busmore as.
Speaker 3: Possible, yeah because it's not Actually Mount rushmore is actually
Speaker 3: not presidents and so and and what was great about
Speaker 3: it IS i could tell you're you're you're.
Speaker 2: Good guy came out in.
Speaker 1: You, OH i, know, dude because it's SOMETHING i. Batter
Speaker 1: what are you talking? About like mentioning pretty much?
Speaker 3: Everybody, yeah, yeah and you don't want to fucking SO
Speaker 3: i was like it was WHEN i was on The
Speaker 3: Earnest pod and he's, like you did jaelly roll?
Speaker 2: Wrong And i'm, thinking, YEAH i did jelly roll. WRONG
Speaker 2: i fucked.
Speaker 3: Up but the thing, is, though who are like truly
Speaker 3: give me the best for?
Speaker 2: IT i want? Them there we. Go now you want it, now,
Speaker 2: now now you want it for.
Speaker 3: Right you you've, had you've, broke you've had time like
Speaker 3: you've had you've had. Time And i'm sitting right here,
Speaker 3: though so we're going to see if like the good
Speaker 3: do you have to rewatch it to?
Speaker 2: KNOW i THINK i think WHAT i can make.
Speaker 1: IT i think what's tough is not, thinking, oh, oh
Speaker 1: so now you want me to include if you would
Speaker 1: be on, it.
Speaker 2: But, WELL i made.
Speaker 3: One IF i make IF i make, one so so
Speaker 3: so the next time, one and there's to put it.
Speaker 2: To be open about.
Speaker 1: It it's tough because there's different criterias that run in my.
Speaker 1: Brain it's like with, you like when you were being
Speaker 1: wanting to be super smart and wanting to come off
Speaker 1: as smart AND i forget who, said, hey, YO i
Speaker 1: want people to see your. Personality like there's always a
Speaker 1: Line i'm not necessarily a battle, with But i'm thinking
Speaker 1: about it Because i'm, Like, okay DO i want to
Speaker 1: be the funny guy right?
Speaker 2: Now or DO i want to be the serious be
Speaker 2: a fucking wolf.
Speaker 1: Guy and so When i'm thinking of, humor there's a
Speaker 1: different criteria that goes into like That human podcast Because
Speaker 1: taylor is an, Entertainer LIKE i love doing podswards me
Speaker 1: and him and we're laughing our heads, off and it's,
Speaker 1: like is that the mount bust more Than i'm trying to?
Speaker 2: Create or AM i trying to? Create?
Speaker 1: Like, yo what HAVE i gotten out of or how
Speaker 1: HAVE i been impacted by sitting here and having a.
Speaker 1: Conversation You're you're definitely in the. Conversation look at me
Speaker 1: already creating that insurance. Policy but but, real like the
Speaker 1: Way blash is said always, online like you sit here
Speaker 1: and you have these.
Speaker 2: CONVERSATIONS i know As i'm listening to.
Speaker 1: You the Less i've spoken on a, podcast the More i'm,
Speaker 1: LIKE i really fuck with the podcast Because.
Speaker 2: I'm, learning And i'm like diving.
Speaker 1: In like when you brought up being cut in your,
Speaker 1: TWO i don't know that about you Because i'm so
Speaker 1: fascinated with people's. Stories so it's like it's DILEMMA i
Speaker 1: gotta live in Because i'm, LIKE i love. STORIES i
Speaker 1: love WHEN i get stuffing Like Darren waller being on
Speaker 1: The pot. Amazing he's somebody who's one percent on, there
Speaker 1: Like David. Questenberg he's somebody as far as numbers and
Speaker 1: all that hasn't been like. That it doesn't make the top.
Speaker 1: Ten but as somebody who battled through cancer was on The,
Speaker 1: texans rang the. Bell now he's playing on The titans
Speaker 1: like he's, overcame such, as ain't the Why i'm sitting?
Speaker 1: There i'm, like, SHIT i did not even know that
Speaker 1: about this, Dude LIKE i just know he caught a
Speaker 1: touchdown pass the year before coming off practice squad and
Speaker 1: spiked the. Football like and then there's Stuff i'm learning
Speaker 1: about with. You it's like it just makes it so damn.
Speaker 1: Hard and then LIKE i, like no matter What darren
Speaker 1: Waller dale And Hard.
Speaker 2: Junior being on the, bus they're no brainers for me.
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i had some money when You so when you
Speaker 3: pick a guy right or or, there we, go calm me,
Speaker 3: down calm me. Down no, no, no no, no because LIKE
Speaker 3: i really, LIKE i really Want i'm interested in this
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think you have more like you guys have
Speaker 3: more of a vision for a, podcast like in On face,
Speaker 3: First i'm, All i'm all six of these. People, YEAH
Speaker 3: i see What i'm. Saying, yeah What i'm, saying so and,
Speaker 3: so Like i'm learning from you. Now so when you
Speaker 3: go into a podcast and you have a, guest do
Speaker 3: you know if you want, funny IF i want to
Speaker 3: be a, dog IF i want to learn, something or
Speaker 3: are you diving into their story to, See, okay this
Speaker 3: is What i'm. Expecting and when you start getting, it
Speaker 3: do you like or do you start getting it and
Speaker 3: feel like this is where this one is, Going i'm
Speaker 3: gonna keep it going this way because the other piece
Speaker 3: of it is it's like they don't say much, right
Speaker 3: so the stuff that they could be feeling like they
Speaker 3: might be, Like, ooh ask this question OR i want
Speaker 3: to hear, this but you have to do. That so
Speaker 3: do you have a mindset of this is WHAT i
Speaker 3: want this podcast to be or do you just get
Speaker 3: a guy start filling them out and then let them
Speaker 3: kind of roll with it and you figure out how
Speaker 3: to work.
Speaker 2: IT i think it.
Speaker 1: Depends it's a mix, because like so with, YOU i
Speaker 1: know the relationship me and you, HAVE i know what
Speaker 1: how you refer to miss tier ones the entire Episode
Speaker 1: taylor messaging Like taylor doesn't know how close we.
Speaker 2: Are LIKE i knew what kind of rapport that we,
Speaker 2: Have SO.
Speaker 1: I knew when it was gonna be me and you
Speaker 1: one on one sitting, DOWN i knew we'd get a,
Speaker 1: good juicy pod like this with depth and everything. Else
Speaker 1: If taylor's sitting on the, Bus i'm sure we get
Speaker 1: in there a lot of that, stuff But i'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of time gets taken up talking about The
Speaker 1: Derrick henry, thing and you're having more. Fun so sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes it depends If taylor's next to. Me but but
Speaker 1: credit To taylor, Too like there's times WHERE i get
Speaker 1: surprised BECAUSE i might THINK i want to go a
Speaker 1: little bit more in depth with this person then have
Speaker 1: so much more light and have fun Like, dale Like
Speaker 1: taylor AND i were shut up the whole, Time and
Speaker 1: sometimes we'll both we might both sit here and think
Speaker 1: how do we want Because taylor again is a lot
Speaker 1: more of an entertainment, factor, like and sometimes we might
Speaker 1: have a guest And alex does all the background search
Speaker 1: or the guys might come, in LIKE jp wanted me
Speaker 1: to ask you ABOUT dc because he's a big FIGHTER
Speaker 1: Nerd right, Now i'm not taking it as a shot
Speaker 1: like that's you know.
Speaker 2: You are THOUGH i get. It, Yeah but like Sometimes
Speaker 2: alex will have everything right.
Speaker 1: Now i'll be, hey did you dive in on the
Speaker 1: story BECAUSE i ain't give much time to like, backlog
Speaker 1: but before, this LIKE i know you have so much
Speaker 1: of a story That i'm in the sauna trying to
Speaker 1: grab all my. Notes he already had an entire thing on.
Speaker 1: You BUT i might come in and having like just being, like,
Speaker 1: okay well we wants this so even THOUGH i worked
Speaker 1: at stately hard on trying to find stuff On Ryan.
Speaker 1: CLARK i Know will has all this stuff that he
Speaker 1: wants to, Look, yes but he had everything mapped out for.
Speaker 2: You but so sometimes it just.
Speaker 1: Depends LIKE i would, say who's somebody that's came on
Speaker 1: THAT i probably sat with one on one THAT i
Speaker 1: didn't know much, About Nate, bargatzi a, Comedian and so
Speaker 1: when it's just me and him one on one And
Speaker 1: taylor wasn't gonna make that, One i'm, like, shit Like
Speaker 1: i'm gonna have to kind of wing this one on
Speaker 1: my own a little. Bit, fortunately Like alex always has
Speaker 1: criteria to go by WHERE i can dive. In you
Speaker 1: ask a, question they get to, talking you might mirror
Speaker 1: the last few words that they're saying to get them
Speaker 1: to talk a.
Speaker 2: Little, more, like, YEAH i got.
Speaker 4: That a lot of it, too is like we we
Speaker 4: liked the open format kind of lesser structured as far
Speaker 4: as like let's stick with open, conversations let's get, there
Speaker 4: and like the boys are so good in their own,
Speaker 4: worlds like he was talking, About taylor's an. Entertainer will
Speaker 4: loves to get kind of in depth and get, More,
Speaker 4: UH i don't, know more like insightful to, conversations and
Speaker 4: so they're chemistry back and forth.
Speaker 2: Works so it really.
Speaker 4: Like sometimes we'll walk on here and not really know
Speaker 4: exactly the direction we're gonna, go which is totally opposite
Speaker 4: of what you'll see IN tv on your side of things, obviously,
Speaker 4: Right but it's, worked and so we just kind of
Speaker 4: try to double down.
Speaker 3: THAT i think that's the the beauty of The and
Speaker 3: mainly don't.
Speaker 1: They only won't they only won't talk if we have
Speaker 1: like a conversation like. This, usually Like i'll tell, them
Speaker 1: like If i'm doing a pot of my own or
Speaker 1: we have somebody on here And i'm, like, hey, well
Speaker 1: like we, want LIKE i want you guys to be
Speaker 1: a soundboard just because LIKE i can't sit here and
Speaker 1: just look at a camera and be like these dudes
Speaker 1: who just do solo pods and just look at the,
Speaker 1: camera go topic to.
Speaker 2: Topic hope people are maybe, laughing entertaining them like a tailor.
Speaker 3: Can but, yeah like that's the that's the thing about
Speaker 3: doing face face, first WHEN i do it in the
Speaker 3: in the, studio it's you, truly you truly don't know
Speaker 3: how things are, Received like what's good is there's two
Speaker 3: people you have no. Clue, yeah like there's two people
Speaker 3: that work. There so like sometimes you're hear in the, background,
Speaker 3: ah you know WHAT i mean and stuff like, That you're, Like,
Speaker 3: okay at least that was at least that was.
Speaker 2: Decent but right you're, like, yeah that was.
Speaker 3: Funny but that's the and that's the strange part about
Speaker 3: entertaining and doing things by. Yourself but it's also kind
Speaker 3: of the rewarding part is the, learning you, know and
Speaker 3: you also have to be willing to. FAIL i, think,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think WHEN i look at WHEN i look at,
Speaker 3: football like, football there was no decision making for me
Speaker 3: and whether or NOT i was going to try to
Speaker 3: do something in, football, right, honestly it's like only one
Speaker 3: thing you can try to do is make a team and.
Speaker 3: Play but there was never there was never a question, of,
Speaker 3: Like i'm going to give my all to this because
Speaker 3: that was about that was so much about. Me i've
Speaker 3: loved it SINCE i was four years, old like SINCE
Speaker 3: I i knew it was a. SPORT i loved, it and
Speaker 3: SO i was going to play it as long AS
Speaker 3: i felt LIKE i. Could and then WHEN i COULDN'T
Speaker 3: i was able to leave it alone BECAUSE i was, like,
Speaker 3: Man i'm an undrafted. DUDE i got thirteen. Years, Man
Speaker 3: i've been to Two Super. BOWLS i was, LIKE i
Speaker 3: played way longer THAN i was supposed. TO i got
Speaker 3: every ounce out of this BODY i. COULD i got no.
Speaker 2: More i'm.
Speaker 3: Okay and it's never a day Where i'll watch it
Speaker 3: And i'm, like, MAN i miss it BECAUSE i, don't you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i. DO i do miss this, Right AND i
Speaker 3: get it sometimes through this OR i got it talking
Speaker 3: To troy and talking To ike and you, know With James,
Speaker 3: Now LIKE i STILL i get it WHEN i train
Speaker 3: the boys and we're on facetimes and text messages talking
Speaker 3: about the game and what they need to do with
Speaker 3: some of the stories y'all just laughing at you.
Speaker 2: Know SO i still get. That BUT i don't play,
Speaker 2: football and that's.
Speaker 3: Fine the media side has been different to me because
Speaker 3: LIKE i actually got to, try you, know and and,
Speaker 3: everything everything for me with media is, extrinsic not intrinsic
Speaker 3: in the sense that most things aren't driven by by.
Speaker 3: Me they're driven by what you get from doing, things you,
Speaker 3: know which is like that's frightening to. Me you see
Speaker 3: What i'm, saying because you, know you go out and
Speaker 3: you do face, first and for, me, LIKE i don't
Speaker 3: look at the. NUMBERS i don't care who's watching or who's.
Speaker 3: Listening but you have other people who are involved in
Speaker 3: your life or like you, know like maybe my wife
Speaker 3: like did you check to see who's? Watching And i'm, like,
Speaker 3: NAH i don't want. To but to, her she. Can't
Speaker 3: she can't fathom doing something not caring how it's, doing
Speaker 3: not caring how it's being, viewed not caring if you
Speaker 3: can make.
Speaker 2: Money but to, me it's like it just feels, good.
Speaker 3: Right football always felt good to, me whether LIKE i
Speaker 3: got cut or, not or WHETHER i played really well or.
Speaker 3: Not you, know like there were DAYS i didn't play really,
Speaker 3: well BUT i walked out AND i was, like On,
Speaker 3: MONDAY i woke up at, FIVE i did this and
Speaker 3: it lasted all the way till two in the. Morning get,
Speaker 3: treatment and that's WHAT i was supposed to do On.
Speaker 3: TUESDAY i did this On wednesday, day and that was
Speaker 3: fulfilling to me because the schedule and the regiment and
Speaker 3: the requirements THAT i put on myself was so much
Speaker 3: higher than the expectations other people put on. ME i
Speaker 3: had to meet THOSE i didn't have to meet other
Speaker 3: people's expectations or do things they. Liked it was about, me,
Speaker 3: Right and so in this it's like if you come on,
Speaker 3: here bro and you're putting your heart into busting with the,
Speaker 3: boys yet it doesn't matter necessarily how you feel about.
Speaker 3: It it's, like does it grow? Right do the executives
Speaker 3: want another year of? It DO i get another? Contract
Speaker 3: DO i get to do?
Speaker 2: More?
Speaker 3: Right and that's a scary that's a scary. Deal whereas it's,
Speaker 3: like this is one of those jobs where whether whether
Speaker 3: you're right or, wrong whether you win or, lose is
Speaker 3: not based on. You that's the dope part of, football.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i work all week AND i have a TRUE
Speaker 3: i have a true understanding of how well as a
Speaker 3: group we did our. Job BECAUSE i could look up
Speaker 3: and look at the score you know What i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying that was.
Speaker 3: Something there was something so like so comforting to, me
Speaker 3: and that it was, like, man you know, what at
Speaker 3: the end of the, Day i'm gonna look up at
Speaker 3: this scoreboard AND i know whether or not we did
Speaker 3: our job well or. Not OR i could go in
Speaker 3: On monday and we're gonna watch this film And i'll
Speaker 3: know whether or NOT i did my job well or.
Speaker 2: Not that's not how this junk.
Speaker 3: Works and so when you're talking about doing a pod
Speaker 3: by yourself or watching people who sit like a dude
Speaker 3: WHO i truly admire Is Colin, Coward.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Exactly that's a great. Example.
Speaker 3: Bro dude just sits at a desk and bum bum
Speaker 3: bum bum bum bum bumb like freaking issue to issue,
Speaker 3: right different like different, thoughts and it's all his and
Speaker 3: and WHETHER i disagree with him or agree with him or,
Speaker 3: not they're so well explained and so well thought. Out
Speaker 3: and he does it for two or three hours On, monday.
Speaker 2: And guess, what he come back and do it again On.
Speaker 3: Tuesday and then it's win like that junkst to, me
Speaker 3: it's like this dude is truly giving himself and like
Speaker 3: we're buying it like that's like that's that's a special.
Speaker 3: Deal and SO i, think, man with with, this this
Speaker 3: is truly like doing the, podcast doing the stuff with THE,
Speaker 3: Dc LIKE i can be, honest it's been, fun BUT
Speaker 3: i know that all of these things had to happen
Speaker 3: at the right time for, Me LIKE i wasn't ready
Speaker 3: for this in twenty and. Sixteen you know What i'm.
Speaker 3: SAYING i wasn't ready for this in twenty and, Seventeen
Speaker 3: like twenty and sixteen, SEVENTEEN i was trying to find
Speaker 3: my voice at my real, job and to where now
Speaker 3: it's LIKE i feel free enough to where man LIKE
Speaker 3: i could just be, Me like if you if you
Speaker 3: were On busting with The, boys like the YEAR i,
Speaker 3: retired it wouldn't have been this, show RIGHT i, mean
Speaker 3: and then to where now it's like like it still
Speaker 3: would have been me and, you but the conversation would
Speaker 3: have been so much more different BECAUSE i was, like
Speaker 3: this is what they know me as right, here LIKE
Speaker 3: i can't really in a, BOX.
Speaker 2: I can't really mess this.
Speaker 3: Up to whereas Now i'm like if they watch this
Speaker 3: podcast and and and they Watch busting with The boys and.
Speaker 2: They're, like man, LIKE i don't LIKE i don't even
Speaker 2: know why he liked. IT i don't even like.
Speaker 3: Him don't hey, like don't give a, Dang like you
Speaker 3: ain't got to, right but you can't listen to me
Speaker 3: and be like you don't agree with these things because
Speaker 3: they my, Stories you know What i'm, saying like don't
Speaker 3: give a dang who, cares and like that's the dope
Speaker 3: thing about what y'all, do, Man and like that's WHY
Speaker 3: i like the moll bust is like it's, important you,
Speaker 3: know like it's important that you make freaking. Decisions will
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, saying, Nephew like we can you
Speaker 3: know What i'm, Saying, like we can't just we can't
Speaker 3: just live in the world to where you float around giving,
Speaker 3: excuses you, Know and you, KNOW i got LIKE i
Speaker 3: got D m On twitter from this guy who's like
Speaker 3: actually super cool AND i guess he reports or. WHATEVER
Speaker 3: i asked a simple question On twitter yesterday WHICH i
Speaker 3: thought was thought provoking and can have some, conversations and
Speaker 3: people got pissed.
Speaker 2: Off, right simple.
Speaker 3: QUESTION i think Tom brady's had the greatest career of
Speaker 3: any quarterback that's ever. Lived, Right, therefore in our, game
Speaker 3: the most important, position, right the position that people care
Speaker 3: about the. Most you make the most, money you have
Speaker 3: to protect the. Most if you've had the best career
Speaker 3: at that, position you are the. Goat, Right he's the
Speaker 3: greatest of all. Time YET i don't know If Tom
Speaker 3: brady has a characteristic one individual characteristic THAT i believe
Speaker 3: he has more of than anybody. Where IF i was
Speaker 3: building a super, quarterback i'd picked that characteristic Of Tom.
Speaker 3: Brady people felt LIKE i was Downing Tom brady WHEN i.
Speaker 3: Wasn't it was really a compliment because how does a
Speaker 3: man accomplish all of this? Crap yet you don't have
Speaker 3: the strongest, arm not necessarily the. Smartest you can't improve
Speaker 3: and get out of the. Pocket LIKE i was thinking
Speaker 3: about all these things like other, people and like this
Speaker 3: dude who like tweets me all the, time sends me
Speaker 3: all these things in the, business is like going on
Speaker 3: this grant AND i was, like, bro what the hell
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 2: Arguing like it's.
Speaker 3: Actually not even an argument in the, Tweet i'm asking
Speaker 3: for your trade that you would pick On Tom, Brady, like,
Speaker 3: right you might Pick Josh allen's. Arms you know Of
Speaker 3: Patrick mahomes's, Arm Aaron rodgers, accuracy drew, whatever, right and you,
Speaker 3: know maybe you Picked tom's, brain BUT i wouldn't Because
Speaker 3: i'd Picked peyton's, right you know What i'm. Saying so,
Speaker 3: like but people get mad about that and then they
Speaker 3: look at you like you're. Wrong you're criticizing the goat you're.
Speaker 3: Nothing you only won one Super, bowl you only been
Speaker 3: to one Pro you.
Speaker 2: Know What i'm, Saying she ain't Been. Anne i'm asking a, question.
Speaker 2: Stupid and on the other side of, that you Ain't.
Speaker 2: Tom he ain't your, family he ain't your. Friend he
Speaker 2: don't even know who you. Are what you mad? For
Speaker 2: you can't, throw you can't you cannot. Throw but you
Speaker 2: mad at.
Speaker 3: Me and THEN i think about all this stuff And i'm,
Speaker 3: like but that's the, life and it's actually the life.
Speaker 2: That you want to get to because you want people
Speaker 2: to be moved by what you. Do that is our.
Speaker 2: Job our job is to move.
Speaker 3: People if we don't move, people people don't, watch then
Speaker 3: people don't. Care and what happens is you actually only
Speaker 3: get to start moving people when you stop caring about
Speaker 3: which way you move. Them because IF i only want
Speaker 3: to move you one, way THEN i gotta work at,
Speaker 3: that you see What i'm. Saying but If i'm just
Speaker 3: gonna be me And i'm gonna let you figure out
Speaker 3: what side you fall, on Then i'm.
Speaker 2: Winning and you know that's WHY i get to come
Speaker 2: on the. Bus you're trying to tell me, that, saying,
Speaker 2: like you, KNOW i just need to pick my four
Speaker 2: no that that that was definitely a.
Speaker 3: Pepto and, listen you, know maybe what we, do, man you,
Speaker 3: know IF i do IF i do well, enough and
Speaker 3: the tier ones at least except me, enough we just
Speaker 3: come back and do this once a, year and THEN
Speaker 3: i can have you And taylor were friends of the
Speaker 3: show and one friend of the, show and then Once
Speaker 3: taylor is, free because LIKE i travel with the, Pot,
Speaker 3: yeah we could do a busting with the boys face
Speaker 3: first combo and we'll just have a good time and
Speaker 3: we'll talk And i'll have my own questions for you
Speaker 3: And taylor and y'all have y'all questions for, me and
Speaker 3: Then taylor can be, like, oh But i'll treat you
Speaker 3: LIKE i Treated Josh.
Speaker 2: Norman i'll walk over to the, sideline and then when
Speaker 2: you walk up on, me you'll look like you might
Speaker 2: just be creating that you must just be assuming.
Speaker 3: That. Ya you'll look like a tall little person and
Speaker 3: you'll be looking up at me like, this and Then
Speaker 3: i'll ignore you Because i'm all big AND i can
Speaker 3: beat you up IF i want it. To but then
Speaker 3: IF i beat you, Up i'm dead, wrong Because i'm
Speaker 3: three twenty and you're one ninety, Nine and what DO
Speaker 3: i get if you know all these things and all
Speaker 3: those things might happen and it might be more. Entertaining
Speaker 3: But i'm just, saying that's, that AND i belong If
Speaker 3: i'm not on what is another mountain with people's? Faces
Speaker 3: It's mount, busmore, dude it's a different. Mountain it's a different.
Speaker 3: Mountain you saw how many heads were on that mountain
Speaker 3: that wasn't?
Speaker 2: Okay by?
Speaker 1: What by?
Speaker 2: Not how many seats are on this?
Speaker 3: Bus?
Speaker 1: Ah it gives me a good it gives me a better. Number,
Speaker 1: again it just said all it all depends on the.
Speaker 1: Criteria you would one hundred get to thirty if you
Speaker 1: had eight. Seats, hell, yeah, DUDE i should make a.
Speaker 1: Roster it's fifty.
Speaker 2: Three you can tear. It we could tear.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: Yeah we could do a first Team All, bus Second
Speaker 1: Team All Bus Honorable Mention All bus.
Speaker 2: And you can have. Eleven you can have. Eleven you could,
Speaker 2: yeah and you could have. Eleven you can have.
Speaker 3: Eleven, Right so if you go first second Team ottawale
Speaker 3: mention eleven in each what if you could only get?
Speaker 2: One just one? ONE i can only vote One Podcast
Speaker 2: Darren waller to, me that's a note to. Me that's for,
Speaker 2: me that's my first. Thrain for, yeah that's my personal
Speaker 2: like hearing his, story hearing.
Speaker 1: How open he was about him talking about mental, health,
Speaker 1: like you, KNOW i know the world's kind of shifting
Speaker 1: and doing all a lot more mental health stuff and
Speaker 1: speaking on it and everything like. That but he was
Speaker 1: one of the first kind of people THAT i sat
Speaker 1: and listened to speaking that kind of avenue doing it
Speaker 1: too on somebody who was passed out in A sprouse
Speaker 1: parking lot and then going to. Rehab and now he's you,
Speaker 1: know made a big contract with The. Raiders SO i
Speaker 1: feel Like Darren waller has been my favorite. PODCAST i got.
Speaker 3: TO i got to, KNOW i gonna know where to. Go,
Speaker 3: OKAY i literally flew in for. THIS i got to
Speaker 3: do his podcast last.
Speaker 2: Week. Darren here's a.
Speaker 3: Podcast Called Comeback stories with a guy Named Donnie. Starkins
Speaker 3: and So donnie is his yoga and meditation, coach and
Speaker 3: he's Also Tyron matthews yoga and meditation to Have tyron
Speaker 3: on and he he actually called me on my way over, here.
Speaker 2: And, tyron, yes did you tell Him i'm about to do?
Speaker 3: NO i, didn't BUT i can tell. HIM i tell
Speaker 3: him he loves he loves this type of.
Speaker 2: Stuff And.
Speaker 3: Donnie actually is my son's yoga and meditation coach because
Speaker 3: he's In, arizona and my son's kind of like a big.
Speaker 3: Thinker AND i was, like, bro you need to, relax
Speaker 3: Like i'm thinking so much LIKE i ruined you as a,
Speaker 3: child the fact THAT i would sit in the stands
Speaker 3: and you tell your coach hold, on, SEKE i go
Speaker 3: talk to my dad and you to come. Over and
Speaker 3: we talked coverages so and uh and so like you
Speaker 3: go on man and it's it's and it's it's it's super. Cool.
Speaker 3: Uh they kind of send you like they have a
Speaker 3: list of questions about you, know your your moments of
Speaker 3: pain and different. Things and it was therapeutic for, me you,
Speaker 3: know LIKE i ended up talking like a ton and
Speaker 3: just much like, THIS i get so enamored with the
Speaker 3: people working with at the, Time LIKE i started Asking darren,
Speaker 3: questions you, know and he was and he answered and you,
Speaker 3: know and then like toward the, end he's, like, bro
Speaker 3: like just listening to you like just was a wealth of,
Speaker 3: knowledge like you inspired. Me AND i was, like, nah,
Speaker 3: dog LIKE i ain't come through none of the things
Speaker 3: that you, have and to now be in this, point
Speaker 3: in this place in your life where you're using your
Speaker 3: story to share other stories that mirror. YOURS i was,
Speaker 3: like that's what it's truly. About and SO i agree with. You,
Speaker 3: man he's a he's a he's a fascinating human along
Speaker 3: with being a, shoot super duper. Talented and so if
Speaker 3: he's he's your number one, bro like you got a
Speaker 3: good number.
Speaker 2: One, WELL i appreciate. That like his, story like he's
Speaker 2: on the pot of.
Speaker 1: Me and you know this, too like playing it you
Speaker 1: played AT, Lsu like he's telling stories about beeing, it
Speaker 1: like getting p from other, dudes getting somebody to pee
Speaker 1: in his, cup being drunk on the, sideline like you
Speaker 1: just you, know when somebody says that you know that
Speaker 1: teammate or that athlete that you think, about like what
Speaker 1: you saw in, college and to go from somebody who
Speaker 1: has a who had a mindset like, that cause again
Speaker 1: you like, understand you're, like this dude ain't doing shit if.
Speaker 2: He continues to do it like, this like this is
Speaker 2: a bad influence on my.
Speaker 1: LIFE i need to not be around that guy to
Speaker 1: like blacking, out passing, out o ding in a parking
Speaker 1: lot to now being on where he's gotten as a.
Speaker 1: Human it's just it's just so interesting because it's, ultimately
Speaker 1: like you, said they ask questions where you're basically talking to,
Speaker 1: yourself like you having that deep ass conversation with yourself
Speaker 1: and figuring out building and growing from there about what
Speaker 1: emotions me and to you and shit like.
Speaker 2: THAT i just find it super. INTERESTING i think that.
Speaker 3: Mortality is like a very sobering. Deal you, know WHEN
Speaker 3: i dealt, with you, know losing my organs and.
Speaker 1: Please talk about, that oh thank, god sickle. Cell, yeah
Speaker 1: learning about that and become that near death.
Speaker 2: Experience it's a good. Story.
Speaker 3: Yeah so In, denver you, know we're In. Denver i'm
Speaker 3: going before With washington like year. Four and WHEN i got,
Speaker 3: BACK i kept telling the. TRAINERS i was, like, hey,
Speaker 3: man what's under your REAL i was, like what is? This,
Speaker 3: like what's under? There and they kept laughing at. ME
Speaker 3: i was, like, nah, bro like something's. Wrong and so
Speaker 3: we get To. Friday i've been practicing the whole week
Speaker 3: getting burned up. Too it's the worst to get burned
Speaker 3: up by scout. Team you know What i'm Saying i'm
Speaker 3: getting burned, up And psyche he's all, off like he's,
Speaker 3: terrible and so they sent me to the. Doctor they
Speaker 3: give me, This they make you drink that, stuff put
Speaker 3: you in the LITTLE ct machine or, whatever and they're, like,
Speaker 3: oh you have a spleen. Contusion AND i was, like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: cool to give me some. MEDICINE i can't go to the.
Speaker 3: Game play the next, week going To denver the next.
Speaker 3: Time first time In. PITTSBURGH i make the joke leaving the,
Speaker 3: HOUSE i hope my spleen is good this, time just being,
Speaker 3: stupid like Because i'm. Stupid and, so, man we're getting
Speaker 3: on and play the whole. Game we're getting on the
Speaker 3: bus after the plane after the, game And Ryan gross
Speaker 3: was the trainer AND i was, like, hey, man like
Speaker 3: my spleen, hurts and he bust out. Laughing, Right he's, like,
Speaker 3: ah how you know. THAT i was, like it happened,
Speaker 3: before and it happened here.
Speaker 2: Too it's.
Speaker 3: Weird doctor comes. Up i'm sitting in MY, CDs you,
Speaker 3: know doing all. This they get your, BAGS i get my.
Speaker 2: Bags we go to the.
Speaker 3: Hospital they're kind of trying to figure out what. Happens
Speaker 3: SO i had what's called a spleening, farction which means
Speaker 3: your spleen. Dies, Right so if you have sickle cell
Speaker 3: for people that can see, us, right your blood looks
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 2: Right this is like your.
Speaker 3: Blood when your blood, sickles it turns this way, Right
Speaker 3: so it's like an actual like a boomerang, Almost and
Speaker 3: so it doesn't pass through the vessels the right. Way
Speaker 3: so when it gets into your, spleen which is like
Speaker 3: the largest organ in your immune, system parts of it could.
Speaker 2: Die so the part.
Speaker 3: Dies but they tell, me like the next WEEK i
Speaker 3: go get the, Test they're, like you should be able to,
Speaker 3: Play like you'll be, Back you'll be. Okay and So
Speaker 3: i'm running. It i'm trying to jog around the. FIELD
Speaker 3: i practice every, day and every day they're sending me
Speaker 3: home at like twelve, o'clock, bro cause it's. Awful so,
Speaker 3: man like a month and a half or so go, by,
Speaker 3: bro and like nothing. Happens like they keep testing, me nothing's,
Speaker 3: wrong but in this TIME i went from two oh
Speaker 3: five to one, seventy you know What i'm. Saying So i'm, like,
Speaker 3: bruh something's. Wrong like one day the doctor comes, In
Speaker 3: doug he goes through like all my numbers and then
Speaker 3: gives me the paper and he's, like i'll listen to
Speaker 3: you complain. Now AND i was, like, Bro i'm not,
Speaker 3: complaining like something's wrong with. Me but they couldn't find it.
Speaker 3: Right and so one, day, man one Day i'm in the.
Speaker 3: House were Playing. Cincinnati OBVIOUSLY i don't get to. Go
Speaker 3: my mom's up helping my wife with the kids and,
Speaker 3: stuff AND i CALL i Call. YANK i was, Like,
Speaker 3: yan do you have a window? Open and she's like.
Speaker 3: No so Like i'm shaking and not like, shivering, Bro
Speaker 3: Like i'm, shaking like the beds. MOVING i was, like something's.
Speaker 3: Open it's freezing in. Here so they get like all
Speaker 3: these covers, man like they wrap towel around my head and.
Speaker 3: Stuff and so my wife goes to get the blow,
Speaker 3: dryer but she had blow dryed our hair on cool
Speaker 3: so when she put it under the, cover it was.
Speaker 3: Cold AND i was Like Jesus, christ like you know
Speaker 3: WHAT i. Mean and SO i was, like, hey that's not.
Speaker 3: It and so, man So i'm shaking my mom LIKE
Speaker 3: i told, you my mom praised THE. Toni so she's
Speaker 3: like Rubbing holy all on my head and she's. Praying
Speaker 3: SO i just start. Praying, Man AND i was, like you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like take care of my, kids you.
Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like bless my, Son LIKE i want
Speaker 3: to be a great. MAN i wanted to be a great,
Speaker 3: husband you, know allow him to you, know allow him
Speaker 3: to take care of his sisters and his. Mom AND
Speaker 3: i was, like allow my girls to understand how to
Speaker 3: be independent and to find a great. MAN i was,
Speaker 3: like allowing my wife to find a man to take
Speaker 3: care of, him to take care of. HER i was,
Speaker 3: like only one. Stipulation he can't be more attractive THAN i, am.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 2: Know and THEN i was, LIKE i JUST i just
Speaker 2: remember it so. Vividly.
Speaker 3: MAN i was, like And, god Anything i've ever done
Speaker 3: that wasn't the way you wanted me to do. It
Speaker 3: Anyway i've ever harmed you Or i've let you, down
Speaker 3: just please forgive.
Speaker 2: Me and you're thinking this is. IT i THOUGHT i was.
Speaker 3: Dying and THEN i, said And i'm. Ready LIKE i
Speaker 3: tell the story so often now because people ask about.
Speaker 3: It AFTER i SAID i was, ready it was no
Speaker 3: LESS i, mean no more than point zero zero one.
Speaker 3: SECONDS i stopped. SHAKING i wasn't, cold no, more none of,
Speaker 3: that you. Know and like in that moment, THOUGH i was, like,
Speaker 3: sheesh you, know LIKE i worked all my life like.
Speaker 2: That that was year.
Speaker 3: Seven LIKE i got my you, know a good deal
Speaker 3: with The, steelers and you, know we had a big
Speaker 3: house and cars and. Stuff AND i was, LIKE i
Speaker 3: didn't really pray about none of that, stuff you know
Speaker 3: What i'm, Saying LIKE i wasn't even really LIKE i
Speaker 3: didn't REALLY i wasn't even thankful for any of, it
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, Saying LIKE i prayed about the
Speaker 3: things that were.
Speaker 2: Important And so.
Speaker 3: About two and a half weeks, LATER i called a
Speaker 3: doctor WHO i had seen a ton of, times and
Speaker 3: he was In New york AND i was, like, hey,
Speaker 3: MAN i need noth. Test and you could tell in his, Voice,
Speaker 3: bro he was so tired of, me you know What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying he's, like all, RIGHT i set it up for, You.
Speaker 2: Ryan you.
Speaker 3: Know i'm, like you could just. Tell he was, Like
Speaker 3: i've seen you all these. Times nothing's wrong with, you
Speaker 3: you know What i'm. Saying so about an hour later
Speaker 3: he calls and he's like where are? You AND i was,
Speaker 3: like we're in the. Car he's, like don't pack a,
Speaker 3: bag don't go to your, house go to the. Hospital
Speaker 3: they're waiting on.
Speaker 2: You AND i was, like all this.
Speaker 3: Sucks so they bring me to the. Hospital and so
Speaker 3: the first, night this lady walks in the. Room she's
Speaker 3: the infectious disease, doctor, right AND i have like this
Speaker 3: this like little bulb in, me, right and she like
Speaker 3: opens it, up, bro and she's like smelling it and
Speaker 3: like she's, like, oh, yeah that's. Infection but they wanted
Speaker 3: to see what the infection, was you know WHAT i,
Speaker 3: Mean and so they could figure it. Out but they
Speaker 3: take the skin and so my spleen was four times
Speaker 3: the size of a normal spleen because it was. Infected
Speaker 3: and so that's WHY i couldn't eat because of that
Speaker 3: closed my stomach and that's WHY i was losing all.
Speaker 3: That so, man where they're doing this, thing the doctor's,
Speaker 3: like if we cut you open and take this, out
Speaker 3: you'll never play football. Again because he was, like because
Speaker 3: you're because you're training and stuff your core whatever. Whatever
Speaker 3: so they vacuum. It so they take me, down they
Speaker 3: put me to. Sleep they got like this little vacuum
Speaker 3: they vacuum and coming to room, cool they got.
Speaker 2: It they didn't get enough to do it.
Speaker 3: Laparoscopoly SO i go back RIGHT i wake up in
Speaker 3: the middle of it this, time, though and SO i
Speaker 3: look at the doctor And i'm, like, HEY i was,
Speaker 3: like he was, like can.
Speaker 2: You he's, like can you take the? Pain that's what
Speaker 2: he asked.
Speaker 3: Me AND i asked the question any football player would,
Speaker 3: ask AM i supposed to be able, to you, Know
Speaker 3: and he's going, LIKE i, guess like it's up to.
Speaker 3: You and that to me made it seem, like, well
Speaker 3: normal humans do. This ain't no, wait, no, like no
Speaker 3: normal human gonna do WHAT i. Can't SO i just
Speaker 3: sit there and it hurts so, bad so much so
Speaker 3: when they wheel me back in the, room immediately my
Speaker 3: wife goes what happened because she could see it on my.
Speaker 3: Face AND i didn't tell her right then because you,
Speaker 3: know she's like in mama bear. Mode but THEN i
Speaker 3: told her what happened or, whatever and then THEN i
Speaker 3: asked the doctor LATER i wasn't supposed to be able
Speaker 3: to take, it by the, way but he wanted to
Speaker 3: try to get as much as he. Could, Yeah so
Speaker 3: that that same, night, bro my fever goes to like
Speaker 3: one hundred and, four right this. Team doctor tells the, nurse,
Speaker 3: oh just give him some. Talent all this happens all the,
Speaker 3: time because it was happening all the, Time like every
Speaker 3: night i'd go to, sleep they'd wake. Up we wake
Speaker 3: up at like to change all the sheets everything SO
Speaker 3: i could and change my pajamas and stuff BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: would be sleeping in. Sweat so, man we do that
Speaker 3: and then, like h so that would winning on A.
Speaker 3: Friday It's, monday and It's tuesday morning, now, Bro And
Speaker 3: i'm in the bathroom And i'm throwing. Up you KNOW
Speaker 3: i can say on this Show diary or. Everything it's
Speaker 3: coming out of both. Ends, Bro i'm, like my fever's
Speaker 3: high as. Hell AND i just told my wife.
Speaker 2: Too.
Speaker 3: MAN i was, Like i'm. Tired you know What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying it's Like i'm really, tired you. Know AND i was,
Speaker 3: like and it's not Like i'm giving. UP i was,
Speaker 3: Like i'm just, tired, babe you know What i'm. SAYING
Speaker 3: i was, like whatever happens from, here, Like i'm cool with.
Speaker 3: It and my doctor he looked Like Tom. Brady it's
Speaker 3: called doctor Tom. Brady he walks, in he walks like
Speaker 3: and he has seen me LIKE i had never, complained,
Speaker 3: bro the whole TIME i was, There and he walked
Speaker 3: into the bathroom and he's, Like i'm gonna take you,
Speaker 3: now you, Know and so he goes, down he takes.
Speaker 2: ME i see the doctor that put me to the.
Speaker 3: Hospital the day, after he comes to visit me and
Speaker 3: he tells, me he's, like had you not called me On, friday.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have made it through the. Weekend.
Speaker 3: Fuck and so it was just like it was just you,
Speaker 3: know it's one of those things that that shaped the
Speaker 3: way like you look at, things you know What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying and that's, why Like i'm never, Bro i'm never
Speaker 3: gonna die of, stress you know What i'm, Saying because
Speaker 3: it's just like when the normal everyday things, happen like
Speaker 3: those are normal everyday, things you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 3: like when when when you're dealing with the stuff that
Speaker 3: like we all deal, with like just accept that as
Speaker 3: part of, it, right because there's so much there's so
Speaker 3: much else that could be going on or that you
Speaker 3: could be dealing with that's so much bigger than what
Speaker 3: every day. Is, like why are you gonna allow that
Speaker 3: to change your? Mood why AM i gonna allow that
Speaker 3: to affect the WAY i treat the, people the people around,
Speaker 3: me and LIKE i have to and whenever something happens
Speaker 3: AND i, do let it get me a little, frazzle
Speaker 3: LIKE i get pissed off with myself BECAUSE i gotta
Speaker 3: bring myself back to what it could, be you.
Speaker 2: Know AND i think.
Speaker 3: In telling that, story LIKE i love telling it in
Speaker 3: the sense of it helps me, remember, like, man it
Speaker 3: could be, worse you. Know and it's so, crazy like
Speaker 3: all of my best, friends like only one friend came
Speaker 3: to see me and my cousin right BECAUSE i wouldn't
Speaker 3: tell anybody how SICK i, was you, know BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: was in that mode of, like don't be a burden
Speaker 3: to other, people, like you, Know and SO i, remember
Speaker 3: like my best friend finally did see. Me he saw
Speaker 3: it was like the next. Year and at this POINT
Speaker 3: i had gained some weight. Too, BRO i was like one.
Speaker 3: Seventies SO i, felt, whoa you know WHAT i. Mean he's, like,
Speaker 3: man your hed biggest. Ship you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 3: he's like, yeah he was Like he's, like, bro what
Speaker 3: Was he's, like you didn't tell me you were that.
Speaker 3: Sick AND i was, like, Well it was one of
Speaker 3: those things the doctors never told. ME i was that
Speaker 3: sick though, too you know WHAT i. Mean and so,
Speaker 3: like How i'm gonna call you and be, like, well,
Speaker 3: man Like i'm, dying like you feel all this when
Speaker 3: every Day i'm being told that nothing's wrong with. You
Speaker 3: and so like that was just like that was that
Speaker 3: was a Good that was a moment THAT i remember
Speaker 3: because you, know two days, Later sean got, shot you,
Speaker 3: know and you know a little bit after, That i'm
Speaker 3: To Sean. Taylor, yeah you, Know Sean. Taylor and a
Speaker 3: little bit after, that, man you get the call in
Speaker 3: the morning two, words you know from one of my.
Speaker 2: Friends he was like he, died you, know and that was.
Speaker 3: It and then so now you're on the stairs, explaining you,
Speaker 3: know explaining to your seven year old you, know when he,
Speaker 3: asked he's like you know that like and Uncle, sean you,
Speaker 3: know and so like you're dealing with the emotions of
Speaker 3: like knowing you were in a bad. Place and then
Speaker 3: and then you, know now your your friend passes and it's,
Speaker 3: killed and he's killed doing something that all of us would,
Speaker 3: do which is protecting your own you. Know and then
Speaker 3: you're watching people ON tv basically say he deserves it
Speaker 3: and say you live by the, sword you die by the,
Speaker 3: sword and all this. Stuff AND i see those, PEOPLE
Speaker 3: i see him. Now you, know they don't KNOW i hate,
Speaker 3: him BUT i. Do you KNOW i work with some
Speaker 3: of those. People oh. Damn, yeah, yeah like me and
Speaker 3: those people ain't gonna ever be. Cool they don't, know
Speaker 3: you know What i'm saying BECAUSE i try to keep.
Speaker 3: IT i try to keep it professional, enough you know
Speaker 3: What i'm saying When i'm around, Him but LIKE i
Speaker 3: got like me and you, NAH i ain't gonna never be.
Speaker 2: Nothing and SO.
Speaker 3: I think that like that's, part like that that shaped
Speaker 3: me not talking about people's. Character you know What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying that shapes, me not talking about People's it's LIKE
Speaker 3: i knew that. Dude you, Know LIKE i love him,
Speaker 3: still you know What i'm. Saying just because he's, GONE i,
Speaker 3: MEAN i don't love him. Anymore so you would honor
Speaker 3: him in practice every day because you were a towel
Speaker 3: with this number and everything else on. It, yeah you
Speaker 3: KNOW i would. Have like In, PITTSBURGH i tried to
Speaker 3: get my jersey number. Changed they wouldn't let, me BUT
Speaker 3: i were twenty one to every, practice my game shirt that,
Speaker 3: wanted my pads had twenty one on, it my towels.
Speaker 3: Did and so you, know like when you talk about
Speaker 3: like the things That darren has has gone, THROUGH i
Speaker 3: think it's just amazing that now that story is going
Speaker 3: to inspire other people the way it inspired, you even
Speaker 3: if and you ain't got to go through the same
Speaker 3: stuff like you go through, stuff but even looking at,
Speaker 3: that you could be, like, dang but it ain't, that
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, Saying and the day you, dealing it's, like,
Speaker 3: oh but it ain't, That and so many times like
Speaker 3: that's Where i'm, At i'm, like you know, what it ain't, that.
Speaker 3: Man and we have whether we like it or, not,
Speaker 3: Bro like we have responsibilities, Now like once you take this,
Speaker 3: microphone you have a, responsibility not a responsibility to change the,
Speaker 3: world but a responsibility to be authentic enough to where
Speaker 3: doing this actually, matters you know What i'm. Saying like the,
Speaker 3: fun the, entertainment like all of that junk is important
Speaker 3: to me because that junk is going to be eventually
Speaker 3: like how we get, paid you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 3: but like WHEN i walk, AROUND i can be one
Speaker 3: hundred percent candid about. This. Bro like WHEN i walk
Speaker 3: around and you, know LIKE i make like the white
Speaker 3: and black jokes and people get mad at, me But
Speaker 3: i'm From New orleans and like that's what it, is
Speaker 3: like light skinned jokes and all. That but like WHEN
Speaker 3: i walk, around, bro like and brothers and like black
Speaker 3: dudes come up to, me and they always, like, MAN
Speaker 3: i appreciate the way like you stand, Strong LIKE i
Speaker 3: appreciate the way that you're. AUTHENTIC i appreciate the way
Speaker 3: that you represent, us that you represent where you come.
Speaker 3: From like that matters to, me you, know because like
Speaker 3: that that is WHERE i come, From and it. Doesn't
Speaker 3: AND i hate the fact THAT i hate the fact
Speaker 3: that loving WHO i, am loving Where i'm, from loving
Speaker 3: people that look like, me that talk like, me that
Speaker 3: deal with the same things THAT i deal with and
Speaker 3: have dealt, with means to other, PEOPLE i don't love.
Speaker 3: Them you know What i'm. SAYING i think for so,
Speaker 3: long for so, long AND i know this not what
Speaker 3: this show necessarily needs to be. About for so long
Speaker 3: in this, country the people in power and the representation
Speaker 3: of loving themselves mean you mean that you thought others
Speaker 3: to be inferior loving my people doesn't MEAN i think
Speaker 3: we're superior in any. Way it just MEANS i think
Speaker 3: we are of value and of worth as, well the
Speaker 3: same WAY i think you're of, worth AND i think
Speaker 3: you're of, worth AND i think all of you of, worth,
Speaker 3: RIGHT i just think we're all of worth. Equally so
Speaker 3: in loving my, folks like that's where, like that's where
Speaker 3: you want stuff to.
Speaker 2: Go and so like you feel like like in our,
Speaker 2: job LIKE i.
Speaker 3: Don't LIKE i don't want to like you don't want
Speaker 3: to feel that, responsibility you know What i'm, Saying LIKE
Speaker 3: i don't want to be sitting in a, meeting, Bro
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't want to be ON tv With paul
Speaker 3: Finebamb and what was a very football, Question like he
Speaker 3: was talking About Eli mann and we're talking About Eli
Speaker 3: mann and not having it no more And Cam newton
Speaker 3: not having it no, more, right and That eli was
Speaker 3: like going to, retire and he said he was so,
Speaker 3: sweet elis this And eli deserves? Dad eli deserves, This
Speaker 3: AND i was, LIKE i, Agree eli deserves that for
Speaker 3: what he has is as a man and for what
Speaker 3: he did for The New York giants as a. Quarterback
Speaker 3: he deserves those Roses, paul and then he started talking About.
Speaker 3: Cam he's, like this guy has never cared about nothing but.
Speaker 3: Itself who you, Know and it's like in that moment
Speaker 3: ON tv with your, colleague like you got to make a,
Speaker 3: decision you know What i'm, Saying like you got to
Speaker 3: make a, decision like what Team i'm? On you, know
Speaker 3: because you know, It like you're on this bus and
Speaker 3: you gotta make Sure taylor looks. Good you gotta make
Speaker 3: sure your guests look, good because if you f over your,
Speaker 3: guests you're not gonna get. More you see What i'm,
Speaker 3: Saying like If taylor doesn't feel a vibe with, you
Speaker 3: like he's not gonna want to rock with you and
Speaker 3: do the.
Speaker 2: Show and you know you have a, value he has a. Value,
Speaker 2: together you'll have a bigger.
Speaker 3: Value and so Now i'm on this show With, Paul,
Speaker 3: fine BAMB i gotta make a, decision like AM i
Speaker 3: gonna shine On paul in this? Moment right and take
Speaker 3: up For cam and talk about the differences in the
Speaker 3: way that he saw these two. Men even though these
Speaker 3: two men have both been pillars of their, communities these
Speaker 3: two men have both given back in this manner of
Speaker 3: way actually one of those men has reached a team
Speaker 3: height that the other, hasn't but the other one has
Speaker 3: reached the individual height that the other one never, had you.
Speaker 3: Know and so NOW i got to explain that and
Speaker 3: do it in a way to Where i'm true to
Speaker 3: the TEAM i work with and not disrespectful to, that
Speaker 3: but also true to the PEOPLE i represent every. Day
Speaker 3: and like that's the, like that's the place you eventually
Speaker 3: get to those decisions because like it's, life, right you,
Speaker 3: Know and so like you're gonna keep moving, up, Bro
Speaker 3: like y'all gonna keep doing, things and like that's WHY
Speaker 3: i asked you that, question like do you have.
Speaker 2: Like do you ever have a way you want to
Speaker 2: steer the?
Speaker 3: Show because it's basically exactly like talking about, Football like
Speaker 3: you can't control this, seat, Right like you couldn't Control
Speaker 3: Darren waller's, Seat like you can't control junior. Seat and
Speaker 3: it's like you have to be true to. Yourself, obviously
Speaker 3: you gotta be true to your. Fans but it's also, like,
Speaker 3: man like what this person is, feeling like what this
Speaker 3: person is sharing is the REASON i invited these people
Speaker 3: on the bus is because in some ASPECT i believe
Speaker 3: that this person had something to, share, Right and that's
Speaker 3: your responsibility as a, host you but that's the responsibility
Speaker 3: as a host, Too will because it's like LIKE i
Speaker 3: came here for, you you, Know Like i'll be, HONEST
Speaker 3: i ain't have This. Tuesday you know What i'm. Saying
Speaker 3: i'm just gonna be straight.
Speaker 2: UP i know you Know i'm talking ABOUT i got
Speaker 2: the show or something like how does he figure?
Speaker 3: Out like you know What i'm, saying, LIKE i ain't
Speaker 3: have This? Tuesday so WHAT i did was, Like, okay
Speaker 3: can we meet On? Monday can we do the show On?
Speaker 3: Wednesday like you, know my old ladies Birthdays, Tomorrow i'm
Speaker 3: going To, chicago LIKE i had all this stuff going
Speaker 3: on because you, REMEMBER i was gonna try to do
Speaker 3: it In july BECAUSE i wanted to be here When
Speaker 3: taylor was, here right right, right BECAUSE i was, like,
Speaker 3: man BECAUSE i already knew said it.
Speaker 1: A certain day AND i was, like that's right after
Speaker 1: the threshold where he goes to can, Right so if you,
Speaker 1: come it'll just be me and.
Speaker 2: You i'm with. That i'm just letting you, know.
Speaker 3: Right, so but so once you said, that, though it
Speaker 3: gave me a little leeway of, Like, OKAY i don't
Speaker 3: have to rush to try to get down AND i
Speaker 3: can do. It BUT i made this happen for because of,
Speaker 3: you you know What i'm. Saying, like and BUT i
Speaker 3: feel like that's the. WAY i feel like that's the
Speaker 3: way it's supposed to. Be Man, like if you care for,
Speaker 3: somebody like if you rock with, somebody like that juncture
Speaker 3: show in your, actions, right that juncture show in the
Speaker 3: way you live life and.
Speaker 2: The way you respond and all these.
Speaker 3: Things AND i think that's, eventually that's eventually how people,
Speaker 3: win you know WHAT i? Mean, like people are gonna
Speaker 3: watch your, Show man and like other athletes and like other,
Speaker 3: people and they're gonna see damn when so and so
Speaker 3: went on this, show LIKE i love What will, bought
Speaker 3: What will. Brought so there's gonna be somebody who's dealt
Speaker 3: with things Like Darren, waller who are athletes who wanna, say,
Speaker 3: man If Will compton invites, me Like Tyron, mathew he's
Speaker 3: been through. This OH i, Know Darren, Waller me And
Speaker 3: darren at the same, guy that's the SHOW i can go.
Speaker 3: On that show is not gonna play, me, right because
Speaker 3: so many Times i've seen people go places and be,
Speaker 3: LIKE i ain't never effing with that.
Speaker 1: Again, Absolutely so, yeah, NO i definitely wanted to get
Speaker 1: be at a place to where it's one of those
Speaker 1: platforms that people use it just like this, nature whether
Speaker 1: you're having fun and you want to have entertaining like you,
Speaker 1: know be about the boys and all that, stuff or
Speaker 1: there's something of value and substance that's behind that person's
Speaker 1: story THAT i that we want to get to that
Speaker 1: brings it out and kind of irons a light on.
Speaker 1: It Darren waller being in an, EXAMPLE i, mean hell,
Speaker 1: you it's like you, know IF i post out That
Speaker 1: ryan's coming.
Speaker 3: On obviously a lot of the tier ones that we refer.
Speaker 3: To think of the one situation WHEN i know myself
Speaker 3: like he's gonna come on the bus and we're gonna
Speaker 3: have an incredible, conversation which we. Have so.
Speaker 1: DIDE i appreciate you flying in for this, thing. Man
Speaker 1: it means a, lot it. Does WHEN i first got
Speaker 1: to learn From, ryan that was twenty, Fourteen SO i
Speaker 1: had just started to start games because somebody had got,
Speaker 1: hurt and SO i THINK i might only started like
Speaker 1: five games that year with.
Speaker 3: YOU i.
Speaker 1: Was fired, up BUT i, remember LIKE i want to,
Speaker 1: say maybe it Was. Laval and now That i'm, playing you,
Speaker 1: know you're feeling a little bit more banged. Up you're
Speaker 1: like trying to learn about, recovery like always trying to
Speaker 1: be a sponge around like the vets that have been.
Speaker 1: There and he's, like, oh cuz or he called me
Speaker 1: because you call me. Nephew he's, like, Oh, becuz, Tomorrow
Speaker 1: i'll take you To uncle R C's AND i go
Speaker 1: over to THE rcs to get AN iv my first
Speaker 1: time like getting AN. Iv ryan sitting, there he's getting,
Speaker 1: this he's getting his feet massaged while he's an.
Speaker 2: Ivy no you did? That you're not Getting did you
Speaker 2: not get that kind of? Massage he wasn't even laid
Speaker 2: up on the. Table you just you just sitting on
Speaker 2: your cost the games on that, man just getting.
Speaker 1: Massage but that's WHEN i started to learn about like
Speaker 1: taking care of your body and everything. Else but, UH
Speaker 1: i mean it was it was pivotal for. Me SO
Speaker 1: i DO i appreciate you making the trip out here
Speaker 1: and coming on busting with the.
Speaker 3: Boys, no, man this was, uh this was. Good this
Speaker 3: was this was kind of. Therapeutic, Actually Like i'm gonna
Speaker 3: go home and be a better.
Speaker 2: Person.
Speaker 3: NOW i think the THING i loved about it was
Speaker 3: one we weren't in a time, limit WHICH i think
Speaker 3: you probably should have kept me on a time limit
Speaker 3: because this junk is very. Long people are gonna take
Speaker 3: six days of driving the world to actually finish, this
Speaker 3: And i'm sorry people for. That next, time If i'm invited,
Speaker 3: BACK i would be. Quicker BUT i think the huge
Speaker 3: thing is is people are, layered you, know Like shrek,
Speaker 3: said you, know he's an, Onion but Then donkey Told
Speaker 3: shrek be a, parfait because who don't like a?
Speaker 2: Parfait you? Know great?
Speaker 3: Reference, yeah and you got, kids, bro and and you
Speaker 3: allow like you allow those layers to. Unfold and SO
Speaker 3: i think people get a greater sense of who your
Speaker 3: guests are than.
Speaker 2: They, do like me being ON. Tv, right you have
Speaker 2: a little, segment you have Certain, yeah you have like thirty.
Speaker 2: Seconds so what y'all? Do man is really?
Speaker 3: Dope Tell. Tale i'll be back for. Him, yeah you,
Speaker 3: Know i'll Make you'll have. To, Yeah i'll make sure
Speaker 3: THOUGH i get at least two or three tweets out
Speaker 3: about him this, Year so tell.
Speaker 1: Him, okay all, RIGHT i Will. Man But i'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll link up, again, Bro but thank. You subscribe To
Speaker 1: bust with The boys Also Face first. Podcast how many
Speaker 1: is that something you're gonna be like?
Speaker 3: Real? Yeah, yeah so we're coming. BACK i GOT i
Speaker 3: Got James harrison this. WEEK i have Super Agent Jalen
Speaker 3: ramsey's alien. Agent Actually david mull get.
Speaker 2: On oh yeah yeah yeah seven because he's somebody who's
Speaker 2: like out.
Speaker 3: There, yeah SO i GOT i got Him nate burleson,
Speaker 3: actually which is a cool moment for. Me man At
Speaker 3: hall Of. Fame i'm just speaking saying, hello and he was,
Speaker 3: like when you're gonna have me on your? Podcast AND
Speaker 3: i was like he seems like such a good. Dude
Speaker 3: this awesome. Dude short, Story i'm, SORRY i know we.
Speaker 3: Ended we were on AN nfl network while still playing
Speaker 3: BEFORE i did MY espn, thing and he was on with,
Speaker 3: me AND i was, LIKE i was, like good for
Speaker 3: a football. Player he was at that, time good for
Speaker 3: somebody that had been doing it for ten. Years AND
Speaker 3: i remember going home and being, Like i'm never gonna
Speaker 3: be ON tv if they're gonna compare me to that.
Speaker 2: Dude he's freaking.
Speaker 1: Excellent, yeah there's another short stort and then we'll go.
Speaker 1: Podcast BUT i remember reading a story on him because
Speaker 1: he attained some award BECAUSE i you, know he was
Speaker 1: a little before me getting into the. League but, yeah
Speaker 1: he's somebody who just seems like he's authentically like just.
Speaker 2: Kind of grew climbed the. Ladder they threw his. Authenticity,
Speaker 2: bro he's amazing.
Speaker 1: Dog, yeah but face first part, Podcast Ryan. Clark subscribe
Speaker 1: rate five, stars bang the comments all day. Long, RYAN
Speaker 1: i appreciate, you brother bus.
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Speaker 3: forever grateful for. You the biggest of hugs and tiniest
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Speaker 2: Forever