WEBVTT - Ryan Clark 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:03.800 Before we jump into all the MMA. So are we 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.960 raided roll busting with the boys? We have Ryan Clark 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.879 on Ryan right, and I go way back. We played 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.000 one year together. That's how far back we go. Well 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:15.360 year was that it was your last year? 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:15.720 Thirteen? 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:17.520 Yeah, you lived thirteen for me with that was No, 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.480 it wasn't it was my last year. It was your thirteen. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.320 It was two year squad, yeah, without a fourteen year though. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:24.680 It was my thirteenth year in the season. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.080 Yeah. Yeah, so you played thirteen years in the league. 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.520 You are on how many segments on ESPN now not 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.160 counting the podcast too many? 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.720 I do get up first take Live Sports Center, But 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.440 you know, man, ESPN, they gonna get their pound of 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.440 flesh though, Like that's the way, that's the way it works, 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.800 until you could be stephen A and they pay you 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.800 astronomical amounts of money to do it. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.920 Yeah, but you do, you do all that stuff. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.319 You do you have face first podcast or you'll we'll 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.560 get into you train dudes in the offseason or maybe 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:54.120 all year round. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.160 I don't even know. At this point. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.560 I saw you coaching some under I saw you coaching 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:58.600 some under armour game. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.520 Yeah, man, what else? What else are you doing? 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.319 We should have you know, No, that's enough. I mean 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.080 that's pretty much all it is. And I mean sure 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.520 you know the family, and so that's what I'm saying. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.280 How do you how do you balance everything? According to 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.280 my wife, I don't, So that's the you know, So 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.319 that's the big thing. Jordan's at ASU now, he plays 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.560 for her, so he's going into his junior year. My 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.400 oldest just graduated from LSU. She's about to start she's 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.240 moving to San France and start working and do some 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.480 type of course at Berkeley. And then my youngest is 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.880 a junior man. So now I'm about to be an 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.040 empty nester bro and like I'm just trying to figure out, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.360 like what do like normal people do, right, because my 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.080 wife wants like she's like, you retired, we need to 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.520 do this and like take trips. And I'm like, well 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.080 that's not really how it works for us, you know, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.040 like I'm still in this, like I'm still working and 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.360 so you know, you do your best to balance it, man, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.880 and I'm still still working on getting it right. Maybe 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.480 you can help me with it because now you're married 0:01:59.480 --> 0:01:59.920 and stuff too. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.680 Yeah, but I'm not doing near as much as I 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.160 like it's admirable. I like, of course I follow you. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.960 We've been, you know, since we've played together. I followed 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.640 you ever since because I feel like you were transitioning 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.280 into that media world, which we'll get into. But hearing 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.520 all that stuff, it reminds me of the Chevy Silverado. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.120 Do you want to hear about the Chevy Silverado? Tell 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.800 me about Are you a big fan of the Chevy Silverado? 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.280 You are, You're a huge fan. 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.080 I'm a huge fan because my first car was actually 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.280 a Chevy though so good. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.839 Oh, I love that the strongest, most advanced Silverado ever. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.320 The Silverado is strong, advanced, dependable, hard working like Ryan 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.720 Clark and the Boys, the designers, big bull commanding. This 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.200 truck turns heads, a partner with grit determination, anything is 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.400 possible with the Silverado. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:39.680 Do you want to hear a few of a few 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.120 of the benefits you give with this son? You please 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:41.400 tell me. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.639 Tailgating, hauling that new big screen, towing off, roading, moving day, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.200 helping out your friend or family member, road chips with 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.799 your family. Run, You're going around, You're coaching all American games. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.720 You're doing this, you're doing that, and the fans got 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.440 to jump in with you. You're going to watch your 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.640 son a d ask you do it in the Chevy Silverado. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.239 Go to a Chevy dealership near you. Let them know 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.639 the boys sence. You might get a free trailer hitch. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.120 We've seen him from a fan out there that they 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:04.840 got a free trailer hitch because they said, hey, the 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:05.440 boy sent me. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.440 You get a few benefits, you get a few perks. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.320 But Chevy Silverado, shout out the boys, no free shoutouts 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:12.080 all the love. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.760 Now we get to a jump back. It was crazy though. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.200 I was thinking myself, Dang, I wonder if I could 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.560 get a discount on a Silverado because you know, man, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.200 like I'm a truck guy now, because in my retirement 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.160 I don't drive well enough to buy a car that 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.480 I feel like has to be cute, right right, you 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.480 get it. You get a Silverado, and it's like I 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.399 could go to work, I could do these things. 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.480 And I clean it up. I could take my old 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:33.200 lady out to eat. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.400 Yeah, still be shot right, But will the busting with 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.840 the boys get me a discount on a Chevy silver Rado. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.720 We can probably hook that up and someone that want 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:42.000 to do. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.000 Something I take pictures, I kiss babies. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.480 We gotta start reach out to Hey, I promise he's 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:52.520 gonna do this, But no, man, I'm super curious because 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.920 I'm gonna backpedal this entire episode because I know, like 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.360 how it all started for you, very similar with being undrafted. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.000 You played thirteen years in the league, which is incredible 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.200 and talking about the stuff I've learned from you and 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.480 this and that, But I wanted to talk about you 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.520 transitioning because I feel like I'm in the middle of transitioning. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.119 I feel like you're somebody. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.040 Who understood that they were on their back nine of 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.360 their career. That's what I always refer to it as, yah, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.400 and you started to see like you know, this is 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.680 gonna slow down at some point. You're somebody who was 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.640 working on transitioning while you were still playing. Right, and 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.240 because I remember your last year with US, I don't 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.040 know if you were doing it with the Steelers before that, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.760 but you would come to OTA's Monday through Thursday, and 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.800 then you would go work, yeah, and then you would 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.760 fly to where was the Bristol, Yeah, Bristol to do 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.320 stuff for ESPN and work on the media and everything 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.200 like that, and then you would be back. You're the 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.240 first one in the meeting room. You always have your 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.160 nose super studious. But how did you balance and when 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.440 did you start to realize like the game was coming 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.880 to an end and you needed to figure out your 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:52.280 plan beat. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.600 It was probably about about year ten, I think. I think, honestly, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.120 you should. I should have noticed before that though, Like 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.839 I'm an undrafted dude, you know, worked at LSU. I 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.680 was cut after my second year and had a regular job, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.000 like before Washington picked me up the first time. Man, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.920 I had just left will Muschamp's office, headed back during 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.760 my lunch break, trying to be a ga, you know. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.040 But around that time I had done some first takes. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.839 Wait wait wait being a ga. Like you were cut 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:18.440 your second year? 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.760 Yes, so I was cut my second year. Tom Coughlin 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:21.600 sits in front of me. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.560 Bro second year and you had a normal job. I 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:25.400 had a normal job. Yeah. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.240 I worked at a Tiger Athletic foundation. I was sitting 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.680 on my sofa probably in like June of that year. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.320 I get a call and dude's like, hey, you want 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.760 a job, And I was like, sure, what's the job? 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.440 He was like a Tiger Athletic Foundations, like the fundraising, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.640 the fundraising sect of LSU, and so I started working. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.520 So I would wake up, Bro. I would wake up 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.320 at four point thirty every morning, get dressed, drive from 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.080 New Orleans to Baton Rouge. I'd work eight to five. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.320 I'd work. I'd work out in the weight room, which 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.960 was across the way from the office I had. Then 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.039 I'd drive back home, take a shower, eat, go to sleep, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.680 and do it again. I went to the office to 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.320 ask much Champ. I was like, hey, man, let me 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.040 know what the process is to. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:04.440 Be a GA. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.000 I was like, I like to be a GA. I 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.120 love football, I love to coach. Walk back in the office. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.520 Agent calls me. Washington wants you to come in for 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.800 a workout. Shawn t god rest is soul hurt his knee. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.359 Another guy tore his knee up because Joe Gibbs was 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.120 like so ancient. They had a mini camp the day 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.280 before training camp. Right, so Bo, come in, pass out 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.240 the first practice, Yeah, Greg, Greg Williams forty up downs, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.000 deep ball drills, right out the gate, right, pass out. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.200 Sean Taylor comes over to me. He's like, hey, man, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.120 like you better do something, Bro. Like they're talking about 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.359 getting you out of here. The dB coach, who is 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.840 my dB coach in New York, goes, hey, man, if 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.479 you don't do something in the second practice, that's what 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.200 back when they had two of days, they're going to 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.280 bring in somebody tomorrow. I get two picks in that practice, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.680 right and after passing right and the two for anybody 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.760 who's listening, I have the sickle cell trade. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.520 I didn't know how it worked then, but now I do. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.599 I was kind of messed up, all right, But any 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.320 so and so and so, yeah, bro and so you 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.279 know I make the team, and you know those things 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.800 are going. But like I, you know, you fast forward, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.440 I do first take and. 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:07.039 I leave the meeting. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.480 You kind of talk about the notebook, Skip baylist man, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.360 Like we're walking out of the meeting. I go down 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.600 a Sunday, watch the games Monday, I'm gonna be on 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.880 the show. I walk out of the meeting. Skip Bailer 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.360 stops the meeting, right, he stops everybody from walking out. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.080 And he was like, I just want y'all to know 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.120 because and I want him to say it. Of every 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.600 athlete or entertainer that came here, he's the most prepared, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.800 he was the most involved. He don't have my notebook 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.000 everything written down. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.560 Similar to probably the way we were all preparing in football, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.640 saying they're sitting there in the beginning of the meeting Ryan, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.040 he's like the dude who comes in. Everybody knows who 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.680 Ryan Clark is, but he's sitting there being like the 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.840 the the example of what a coach wants, sitting there 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.920 with your notebook out, ready to take notes. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.240 And had a lot of coffee that year too. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.680 Yeah, but you know, and that's kind of when you 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.200 know will like, I started kind of putting feelers out 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.000 seeing what I could do. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.840 Okay, now what kind of feelers? Like, what are these 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:56.680 things that you were doing? 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.560 So so so what I did was did you go. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.760 To those boots camp set thing? No, you didn't do 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:02.120 none of that. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:06.520 Oh it was a stupid What I did, bro, Let 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.200 me tell you about the feeler. A filler was Twitter. Okay, yeah, 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.200 so I tweet Jeer Ten. I was like, man, if 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.040 anybody needs an intern who's hard working, who's looking to 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:21.080 start a new career, hit me up. Trey Wingo dms me. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.600 I was following Trey Wingo. Trey Wingo goes you should 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.040 intern here, and I was like, y'all do y'all do that? 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:27.760 He was like, no, but I'm sure they'll do it 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.440 for you. The Super bowls in New Orleans that year, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.160 I go to a Super Bowl to work on NFL 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.280 Live to kind of do a guest spot. Trey says, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.360 coming with me. Introduce me to Seth mark Man who 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.640 runs NFL at ESPN, and he's like, Ryan Clark wants 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.400 to do an internship. You should let him. He said, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.280 I'll take care of it. I go, I work for 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.600 a week, and so usually when you go there, there's 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.959 somebody who basically holds your hand as you walk. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:48.679 Around, right and you do it. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.600 And so this week for me, I got my emails 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.800 like every other analyst, the producers reached out to me 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.000 like every other analyst, and it was basically a test 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.240 run for me to see if I liked it, but 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.600 to see if I was good at it. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.120 I do that for a week. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.200 Bro. That next monday, I got agents calling me and 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.760 one of them said, like the magic phrase, they go, 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.480 I think I could get you paid to do TV 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:10.199 while you play. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.559 I said, you won, and so. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.840 Little a little bit later they work out a deal 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.720 and so basically like my last two years in the league, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.920 last with Pittsburgh the one with Washington. I lived off 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.560 of TV money and just banked my football money. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:29.080 No ship, yep. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.760 So how stressful was it going back and forth and 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.520 doing both, you know what like or was it not 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:36.000 that bad? 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.840 It's it's not bad, bro, Like you know you you 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.800 do this job and I saw I think it was 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.760 a Field Yates, you know, tweeted you that you're an 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.120 excellent podcast or what you are, and it made me 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.320 kind of proud of you because no, no, because I 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.240 was like, that's not you know, I'm saying that made 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.280 me proud and so but you know, like there's preparation 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.680 that goes into this, but when you are on the microphone, 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.280 you just you like even with the Silverado, you know, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:04.559 the Silverado ad like. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:05.080 You were just you. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.199 I know what the words say, but the words that 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.080 you the way you said it was Will Compton like 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.400 that's what this is. And so going up for a 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.520 weekend and talking about football, which I loved, which I watched, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.320 that wasn't stressful to me. I think the it was 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.000 more stressful in Pittsburgh because the first year I did it, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.840 we were zero and four to start that year, which 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.480 is something that never happens in Pittsbagh. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.120 So sorry to cut you off. 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.360 When our first year of doing the podcast and we 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.240 backlogged a lot of episodes to make us last of 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.959 the year is the year I ended up playing for 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.559 the Raiders, so I wasn't on the team, but until 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.760 I got picked up on the Raiders, I was, you know, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.120 a Titan like I was essentially a fan of the Titans, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.040 still getting with the Titans in the bus with the boys. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:45.920 Titans started off like two and four. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.120 So every time the Titans lose, like, I'm sitting at 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.679 home like, fuck man, I don't even want to post 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.440 this stuff. And I can only imagine what it was 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.360 like for probably Taylor or having to go into the 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.440 facility and continue to kind of be out front of it. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.000 But but yeah, no, go ahead, I. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.560 Just kind of no, no, no, you're absolutely right. And so 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.640 in Pittsburgh, you know what it is. It's it's one 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.480 of those things. It's like, oh, you ain't focused on football, 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.839 You're on TV every Tuesday, woo, and cause it's a 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.199 still time, right, It's a town that's about winning championships, 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.400 which I had already done, right, And also Tuto like 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.800 people they tweet me that and saying that I was like, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.319 mother f I lost my spleen, my gallbladder, piece of 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.800 my liver for this team, right, Like I didn't done 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.880 all that, And it's always that thing, right, have a 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.560 plan B. But your plan B can't be visible like 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.360 mine was. You see what I'm saying, Like, say, I 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.119 was doing construction in the off season. Oh, that's admirable. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.360 You know, he's doing like an everyday working man's job. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:41.000 You know what I'm saying. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.559 Or if I was run Clark does in the off 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.760 season Bill Houses exactly, like this is so awesome. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.480 This is a man who was preparing. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.520 But since I was doing TV and it's during the season, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.600 it's like, okay, is that taking his focus? No? They 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.280 just asking me questions about the freaking Pittsburgh Steelers. I 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.800 know about them more than anybody, and so like that 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.120 was the thing. And then and it did become it 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:07.839 did become for me an issue because just like you know, perception, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.040 even though it's not the truth, can be reality, right, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.400 And so the perception of me throughout my career was 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:16.440 exactly what you said. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:16.800 It was. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.720 First in the meeting, always prepared, works extremely hard, like 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.480 all these things, and it hurt me a little bit 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.760 for people to think that I didn't care anymore just 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.320 because I understood the game. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:33.080 Yeah, because like and it sucks too, because I feel 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.160 like what plays into that perception too, is because you 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.960 care so much about like the team, and even though 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.880 that perception, even though you know like the boys don't 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.960 necessarily think that way, there's still a part of you 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.520 that I know for me too, like you just lay 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.880 up like, man, I hope coach or I hope you 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.120 know the fellas aren't getting like any kind of wrong 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.240 idea because I've read something on social media that's got 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:54.080 me and my feeling. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.959 You internalize that, and that's the you know, like people 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.520 we all want to live by like the whole we 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.319 don't really care what people think. And and to an extent, 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.679 I think, like I'm very much like that. But the 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.000 other side of it is too is I don't, like, 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.760 I don't want to be misunderstood. And so we had 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.400 a meeting at work one time and my boss, this 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.080 is when like Jason Whitten was coming over to ESPN 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.960 to do Monday night football before he had to go 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:27.360 back to do football because he wasn't really. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.920 Good night before. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.640 He made the right scitions to go back and then 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:38.280 never come back again. And so like he's going through 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.760 like Jason Witten's ten Twitter rules or something like that, right, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.920 and so like one of the rules was, uh, don't 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.120 argue with people on Twitter, and so like, you know, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.079 my boss and I love him, and I text him 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.920 about it was just kind of like, uh, you know, 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.160 make the joke the whole, like like like Ryan argues 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.320 with guys with two followers and it's a big meeting, right. 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:01.720 I I didn't do to him what I did to 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.600 Jay Gruden that time when he was like talking subliminately 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.800 about RG and I stood up and was like, hey, guys, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.679 we know he's talking about RG three. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.079 Oh shit, I forgot about that. I was the captain. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.080 I could do what that. Yeah. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.400 I was like, sa, bro, like we know what's going on, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.240 Like come on, dog, you know what I mean. And 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.080 so I didn't do that. But I text him afterwards though, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.960 you know, and I was like, look, man, who'd you 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.720 text that? George my boss? I texted him, I said, Bro, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.960 I said, you know, I said, Jason Whitten is fine. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.000 You know, I think I think Jason Wittenes. This is 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.800 before he started workings. I think he's a great man 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.600 because he is. I've met him. I love talking to 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.640 him the things he does in the community. But I 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.560 was like, I ain't that dude. I was like, I'm 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.840 a fighter, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.960 and to have a team, like, you got to have 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.080 all types of people. You gotta have a dude that's 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.880 gonna be calm and not get into arguments, and then 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.880 you got to have a dude that when the argument start, 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.520 he gonna be out front making sure everybody's good. But 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.560 most of the time, bro, like I reply to these 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.640 things like you could say, like when people say like mean, stupid, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.200 ignorant things about me, I don't respond to that unless 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.200 like I can see their profile pick and it have 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:04.320 some obvious deformity that I know they might be insensitive 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:08.120 about and not like a real deformity. Yeah yeah, no, 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:09.800 not a dog, because that's not fun. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:10.200 To talk about. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:15.480 Like if the person like it's like slightly unhandsome or 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.240 slight something like that, well I could take a shot 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.080 in joke. I'll do that if they say something like 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.200 they cuss me or something like that. But Most of 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.800 the time, I respond because the reason they hate me 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.880 or dislike me or disagree with me is because they 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.640 don't understand it. Like I'm cool with the fact that 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.280 you don't like something I say, Like if I say 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.840 something like if I say something about Josh Allen and 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.560 you disagree, which Bill's Mafia does often, and you have 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.400 me one hundred percent pegged the right way, Like if 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.000 I say, yeah, Josh Allen, you know it wasn't great. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.800 You know, we saw him with sin, but I didn't 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.000 necessarily think he was the top ten quarterback before last year. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.920 Now with Stefan Diggs, he's ascended and you get that 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.360 and you're like, nah, but he was great two years ago. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.960 I'd be like, nah, you still that's not true. But 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.240 I'm not mad because you understood me, like you got it. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.760 But when people like feel like you know, like sometimes 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.120 I get the thing that I'm racist because I stand 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:10.000 up for black people. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.960 No I'm not right, No I'm not you. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.360 Know, you know, like my oldest daughter's white, Like you 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.080 know what I mean, Like you know and so, but 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.120 I'm not. But during twenty twenty, when I felt like 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.640 it was important to speak up, I did, But because 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.560 I spoke up people was like, oh, you must feel 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.640 this way, and I would have to reply to that 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.120 because I don't want that misconception about me. Now if 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.480 you don't if you hear what I say and understand 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:34.960 it and still don't f with me. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.000 So I don't even know you anyway, But I just don't. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.440 Want to be misunderstood because once those things get out, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.880 eventually those narrative narratives begin to carry and I don't 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:45.200 want that. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:46.680 So do you feel like. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.320 It's part of the game that we are in as 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.600 like in this world of social media media in general, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.400 to have like certain we call it branding, to engage 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.600 with fans as well, because like you could take the 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.720 rules of like the example being you a nalg of 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.760 Jason Wit or don't argue with trolls or people like 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.000 that on on Twitter, like me in my seat the 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.040 reason I have fun and don't take it so serious 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.080 and I'm out there, I'm tweeting and stuff like that, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.280 Like I wasn't like a quarterback or like Peyton Manning 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.639 who doesn't even need Twitter because whatever he does is 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.280 gonna be whatever it is, It's gonna be goals, right, 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.359 Like they just say it's gonna be funny because he 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.359 doesn't need Twitter to build anything. But I feel like 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.920 that plays into some of our branding as far as engaging, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.639 as long as we understand how to compartmentalize, you know, 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.840 you don't want to be misunderstood. But like playing in 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.400 all this stuff because people like, why do you even 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.159 give it? Why do even give it gas? And for 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.080 me it's like, well, I mean it's gonna be funny, 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.480 Like I think it comes off as funny. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.600 But yeah, like I think like some of it for 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.679 me is funny. Like I said, when I look at 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.880 profile picks and talk, I also like to engage too, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.760 Like you know, I started a new I got a 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.960 new MMA show and the comments are bad, but the 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.000 dms are worse, Like straight up bro like the stuff. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.399 So no, oh man, they you stupid mother effort. You 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.200 don't know nothing because you don't think Islam. Machachev's last 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.280 fight against Moisis was a good fight. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.000 Now it was boring as hell, But what happens is right. 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.080 I answer those questions and I have those conversations with 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.880 those people because a lot of times I learned because 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.959 what we know is this right, you can be as 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.040 good as you and you can think you're as good 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.200 as you want to be in that seat, but it's 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.119 about how people see you that's eventually gonna get you 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.520 paid period, right, And whether it's to hire or upstat 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.639 see you or executives in different places, or it's just 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.680 the feedback they get from your show and a way 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.720 to show rates like that's how like like that's how 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.840 like that's our value, And it's not the value that 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.760 you have to internalize, right, Like, I don't have to 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.840 walk out and be like, dang, I ain't worth nothing 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:48.200 because these people don't agree. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:49.280 Now, it's not how it works. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.440 How it works is if they don't hate me enough 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.560 to watch it and talk about it, or love me 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.920 enough to watch it and talk about it, then I 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:58.520 ain't winning. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.560 Right. Kanye, who's that crap crazy. 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.280 Now right, has a line in a song that's like 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.679 one of my favorite lines ever, and it's very simple. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.040 He said, everybody feel a way about yay, but at 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.639 least they feel something like people can't nothing us if 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.119 they just nothing us, like if they could take it 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.439 or leave it, whether or not we on TV or 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.359 whether or not we're doing our podcast. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:21.320 And that's not good. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.560 You know, if if they could take it or leave 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.400 it that this dude's fighting, then that dude don't headline 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.320 pay per views, or or if they could take it 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.160 or leave it that that you're you're not playing your game. 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.880 Those teams don't get primetime games. Like that's the way 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.920 it works. And so I think that's all a huge 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.879 like a huge part of our interaction and too on 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.840 who on who you are, Like I've been around you, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.480 like you just legit are fun like like straight up 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.920 like and in a way no, I'm just saying like 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.480 like in a way like it even made me laugh 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.000 one time, you know, like when the whole Derek Heary 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.800 thing was going on, which I'm sure we'll get to 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.560 at some point. It was probably somebody in here tweeted 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:06.359 something dumb about, you know, about Derrek finally stiff throwm 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.520 somebody and it was on Busting with the Boys, and 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.800 I was like, first off, you know, because I run 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:12.520 all of my stuff, I was like, first off, Will's 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.600 my nephew. He know me, Like if he wanted to 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.199 know the answer to this, so he could text me 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.199 or I'll come do the show. And he was like, 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.359 oh unk, And when I see you I'm gonna hug 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.280 you and it's gonna be all up. And it just 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.440 made me laugh because like part of me was like, well, 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.159 if Will's a part of this, like why would he 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.320 even tweet that, like that's my dog? But then when 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.199 you said it, I was like, nah, he right, you 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.280 know what I mean? Yeah, like that part, And so 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.800 that's what you portray and that's the way you interact. 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:41.080 I'm actually like like this, like I don't like stupidity sometimes, 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.280 like I don't like to be misunderstood, and I think 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.119 that that comes across. But I'm also fun and I 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.760 have a good time and I'm silly. But all those 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.200 things are what we have to portray in our brand. 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.240 Where somebody like Peyton Manning, it's on display so much 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.440 and highlighted so much, he doesn't need to show. 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.679 That, right, And I did take from what you were 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.640 saying that too, like when you are engaging, like there's 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:03.639 a little bit of learning that goes involved with like 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.720 you said, if they hate you that much, they wouldn't watch, 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.480 they wouldn't listen to you, and all that. But when 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.960 somebody's obviously projecting and meeting you with some kind of 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.199 friction and then you talk back to them in a 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.160 way that you're either learning or you're saying something. They're like, oh, 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.160 you know, I didn't know you were going to respond, 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:17.760 and all. 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:19.159 These energies obviously different. 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.919 Yeah, but there's something in there too about responding with like, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.359 you know, I'm not so triggered by this that I 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.520 can't like get something about like yo, where are you 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.040 coming from? Or yeah, you're right, it was born, but 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.719 this you know, X, Y and Z, And I do 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:34.840 feel like there's there's that learning component that you have, 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.520 which obviously has ultimately gotten you where you are now. 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.040 Yeah. I think you know. 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:43.640 The other piece about about learning that I had to learn, bro, 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.480 is that like I can't like Lewis Riddick. Right, Lewis 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.800 Riddick grew up differently than me. Lewis Riddick has had 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.879 different experiences than I have. I can't out Lewis Riddick 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:55.960 Lewis Ridick, you know, like I'm not going to get 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.720 on there and be stern faced the entire time and 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.639 say these things that people think are always so eloquent, 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.000 you know, Like I can't do that. And I just 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.600 remember when I first got the job, I wanted people 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.040 to think I was so dang smart because kind of 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.920 like what you said too about you know, understanding and 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.000 branding and this and that. It was like I wasn't 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.440 a Hall of Famer. I won't be in a Hall 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.679 of Famer, and I'm not a quarterback, right and so 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.159 in that and too, like I wear colorful suits. 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:29.040 Sometimes I had different sometimes you always you always, oh, yeah, 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:29.640 you know what I'm saying. 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.720 I doce different things with my hair, and I understand 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.679 like the perception of that. So when I first started, 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.000 I was like, man like, I just want to be smart, man. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.320 So I would just study and study and study, and 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.840 I would like spew the stats I learned and talk 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.919 about the plays I saw. And it was it was 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:49.040 Josina Anderson, who was in Washington, my first thing in Washington, 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.960 and one day, man like, We're just sitting in the 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:53.960 green room and she was like, I wish people knew 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:57.359 how funny you were. And I kind of felt some 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:58.880 type of way. I was like, what do you mean. 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.000 She's like, I wish like your personality, like your real 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.240 personality showed on TV. And she was like, don't get 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.240 me wrong, you do a great job and people here 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.720 love you. She was like, but I know who you 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.800 are and I wish that that showed and like, I 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.399 just this when Get Up started, and Get Up was 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.960 kind of like struggling and they were like and then 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.400 the producer his name is Zach BENNERBIEB and he would 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.199 produce me every day I was on. He was like, 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.240 what do you want to do? What do you want 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.359 to talk about? How do you want to talk about it? 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.960 Because they were in a place where he understood, like, 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:30.560 this is the way the show is going to get off, 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.160 and he just started letting me be me. And then 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.680 because I did it on Get Up, Now First Take 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.560 wanted that me too. Now Sports Center wants that you too, 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.440 Live wants that you too. So it was truly when 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.919 I started just thinking, just started just being myself, like 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.840 being the same person that's sitting here talking to you. 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.879 Was when my career took off, I think, and also 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.480 when I started to enjoy it, because it was like 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.480 real work for me at first, and football was never work. 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:58.880 And you felt did you feel stressed? 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.560 I guess trying to be this image that you wanted 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.520 to have as being the smartest dude because you felt 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.600 like you probably had to prove yourself in this world 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.600 and overcome some of the thoughts that might be out there, 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.240 and then finding that new voice of like balancing the 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.160 humor with it, or that about. 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:13.520 To get thing. 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.600 Bro, I'm not gonna die stress, like I ain't gonna 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.840 let that happen. So now I wouldn't say I wouldn't 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:24.240 say I was stressed. I just I definitely had to 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:28.240 think about it and work on it more than I 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:32.880 should have been, because the personality part is truly just personality, right, 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:38.679 and worrying about how people perceived me took away the 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.800 personality part of it. And so now I still study 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.640 the same way, I still focus the same way. I'm 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.000 still up on Monday nights, I mean on Sunday night 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.679 or Monday morning till two three am, get up at 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.040 five to do get up. But when I get up 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.679 to do it, it's not like I gotta say, I 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:56.520 gotta make sure I hit this play, that play, that play. 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.439 It's I have an overall view of what happened. I 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.480 have things that stick out in my mind. And if 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.600 when I ask the question, that's the first thing I 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.920 think about, I'll say it. If it's not, then it's 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.119 not like if you ask me a question. And the 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.800 first thing, and the first thing I think about is 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.399 blived on house party and every time he tried to 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.639 dance with a chick that was saying his breastink and 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.320 then he started singing in their ear. And that's the 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:19.879 first thing I think about. It's the first thing I'm 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.280 gonna say. And if I'm on the show with somebody black, 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:26.520 usually they catch it. If I'm not, usually they don't. 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.359 And I just keep on, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.560 He said, if he's not kind of look to the. 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.000 But you know, and so the thing that's happened from that, 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.239 though it is greenier Gough. I'm sure that's funny, but 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.880 no idea what you're talking about, you know what I mean? 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:46.800 And that and that's the thing. But I think it's 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.040 also too since I started being that way, I think 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.080 it's allowed it's allowed other people to to kind of 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:55.840 live in that truth, and it's helped me. It's helped 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.879 me work with other dudes. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.280 if you're on there with somebody who not necessarily like 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.439 the most personality, then I know that day I have 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.919 to be a lot of personality, you know, or if 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.800 you go on the show and you know somebody feeds 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.199 off of you very well. I know that day I 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.520 could throw alley oops and they'll catch them and that 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.800 and that's really I think that's really when you start 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.720 to get in a sweet spot of people telling you, 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.200 knowing and understanding that every time you're on a show, 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.400 you make it better, because that's the goal. Every time 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.000 you're on the show. You want the people you work with, 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.239 the people producing the show, to be like, dang, when 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:34.960 our seas on the show, that's better. 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:36.120 And I think that's where I am now. 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.520 I feel like I'm learning a lot about his psyche 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.080 on like going into all these different shows and everything. 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.639 It's pretty it's interesting to like listen to just because 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.280 I feel like you've had to you've grown through it all. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.040 Obviously you've approached it the same way you've probably like me, 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.359 it's still being a dumb football player, like being a 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.440 football player and carrying it over to the next world. 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.800 But it's just insightful to kind of listen to, like, 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.040 you know, going into these pre meetings or things and 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.440 like finding your voice and here's the sweet spot, and 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.080 here's where I started to learn this, And I wanted 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.280 to be smarter, but then I had to learn that. 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.680 Here's how I had to adapt to bring this element 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.399 to it. 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I want to talk 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:19.840 about that a little bit because I was watching your uh, 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:20.640 your sit down. 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.040 I want to say it was, uh, what was the 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.960 one with the DBS called Safeties First? Safeties First? 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.320 And then you sat down with Troy Polamalu recently and 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.960 I Taylor Legends, Uh talk talk a little bit about 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.120 what that's about and where you're wanting to go with that, 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:34.840 because I feel like you've made a couple of pivots 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.880 along the way, and now I feel like it's starting 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.200 to get out there more than ever. 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.720 I'm curious what you're what the brain is behind that 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.960 open It's all happened accidentally on an accident. 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:48.479 Accident, an accident, So it started because I wasn't I'm 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.560 not in love with TV okay, like I just not 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.440 in love in what way I think, you know, Like 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.640 I get around people. Marcus Spears is one of my 0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.840 closest friends, went to college together. He's a on TV. 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.280 We're standing at the spring game at LSU one year, 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.000 probably three four years ago, and he goes, what do 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.040 you want to do with this TV stuff? And I 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:10.720 was like, oh man, you know, I really love ball 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:12.480 and I love the fact they let me talk about it. 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:13.800 So as long as they pay me to do it, 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.080 I'm gonna do it. Yeah, And he goes, I want 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.800 to be a TV star. And the first the first 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.720 thing out of my mouth, without thinking, was I don't. 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:26.160 And that's one true like I don't. I I I 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.080 rather be seen less. Like if you look at my 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.240 social media, like there's no there's no video of me 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:37.280 talking holding the phone in my face about anything, right, Like, 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:38.080 you'll never see me. 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.040 Oh such and such just happened. 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.040 It was this nah, like because if I ain't on TV, 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:43.920 then it ain't for my voice to be heard right now, 0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:45.960 like and and it's strange. 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.480 Like you having hot takes like doing that, yeah, yeah, 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.040 but and and so and so. 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.240 For me, it started to become work in the sense 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.680 that you know, you got to talk about what's hot 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.400 in the cycle. You know, you got you gotta talk 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.960 about Aaron Rodgers all summer because Aaron Rodgers is a story, 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.000 but Amon Rodgers shows up on the first day in 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.680 his shirt with Kevin from the office on it, right, 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.440 But you got to talk about it, and you got 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.200 to talk about it in a way that people get 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.520 excited about it every dang time you do. And so 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.280 it started at first because I was like, you know what, 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.960 I'm going to start a podcast. Nobody ever has to 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.080 listen to it, but it's gonna be like therapy. If 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.200 there was something I wanted to talk about that week, 0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:23.200 I'm going to talk about it. 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:24.040 So that's how it started. 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.320 And it was just me sitting I did a radio 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.520 show every week, and the dude was like our video 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.400 for it for RC, it was in a studio it 0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.640 still will be, right, and so I was going say, 0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.040 I kind of dig that, yeah, so it's still it 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.400 still will be. And so I took off for most 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.480 of twenty twenty because right at the beginning of COVID 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.840 my mom got it. And so my mom has lupus 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.320 really bad. Uh. She has what's called aspagillous, which is 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.840 basically like where you get pneumonia a lot. And I 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.440 hope I'm saying this right. No, no doctors check me 0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.880 her lungs basically have callouses on them. 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:00.720 Right. 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.360 And so if you would have asked me when I 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.880 first heard about COVID, who's the one person in your 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.960 life who can't survive it? I would pick my mom, right, 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.840 My mom, My mom growing up. My mom my parents 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.440 were my best friends on the East Side. She was 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.760 my best female friend. He was my best My father 0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.600 was my best male friend growing up. And so my 0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.960 mom goes to church, bro, like eight days a week, 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.480 like twenty five hours a day, stays in church. And 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.400 so I call her the first when she first gets it. 0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.960 We're talking about it, and like I'm fighting from crying. 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.440 She's not scared of freaking out. I'm freaked out. So 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.360 every day, so every three days we drive down Bringer 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.400 supplies me and my kids and my wife would sit 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.920 on my sidewalk where I grew up. My mom would 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.920 sit in the doorway with her mask on, and that's 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:46.880 how we talked to her, you know what I mean. 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.080 And so like at that time, she didn't test negative 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.800 for forty six days, okay, right, And so at that time, bro, 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.080 it was all I could think about, you know, And 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:57.600 so I was like, people don't want to come hear 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.000 me talk about my mom and COVID every day. And 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:06.080 so then shortly after, right, we get George Floyd and 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.920 we get Breonna Taylor, and that stuff consumed me. 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:10.960 Right, so oh, I mean a lot of people. 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.200 It was like with everything shut down, it was kind 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.160 of just the focus and magnifying glasses whatever was the 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:17.400 big topic coming out. 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:18.680 But yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.680 So that consumed me, and it was all I could do, 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.120 and it's all I wanted to talk about. So I'm 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.680 ad marches and I'm giving speeches and I'm doing all 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.120 these things. And so I took off for that period 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.440 of time and so then we kind of swung back 0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.400 around and I started up again in the studio and 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.840 I just started getting like these ideas of people like 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.600 I wanted to put on, like people I wanted to 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.920 talk to, and because it was like my thing, I 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:41.680 was like I can talk to whoever the hell I want, right, 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.720 But it was just all people, if you know. Like 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.560 I had my best friend on who wrapped and we 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.280 made an album, and the dude that does all my videography, 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.160 I had him on and we did a show. And 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.200 then I did a show about like undrafted guys cause 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:54.960 we're undrafted, and it was like, it'll be cool for 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.120 people to hear these stories some dudes who aren't drafted. 0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.320 And it was the shaser ever than Mike Ford, people 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:00.959 who I trained, and so it was like, I want 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:01.600 to put them out that. 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:02.600 I want people to see them. 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.880 All the safeties that were on that show that like 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.480 all my guys, like I train them all. Obviously, the 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.719 the Troy thing was kind of like the biggest thing 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.320 for me. He's one of my closest friends. He's definitely 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.200 the best friend I have from my playing days, and 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.040 he don't ever talk publicly. 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.360 Right, He's never out there unless you see it heading Shulders. 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.759 And I think, and he's like one of the most 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.560 He's like one of the more naturally intelligent people I've 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.799 been around. Like if he's around it and he absorbs it, 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.680 he could regurgitate it in a way that other people 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.880 don't think. Like on that podcast, Bro, I don't know 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.960 if you finished it, he talks about when he knew 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:40.760 it was over. 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.839 Right, Yeah, that yeah, I love that part, just. 0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.799 Crazy right, Like I knew it was over because Jordan 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.279 had to go open the door every Saturday in Virginia 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.440 for the barber because I couldn't get down the stairs 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:50.040 on Saturday. 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.399 Like that was George's son, George my son, Like that's 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:53.080 how I knew that. 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:54.920 And when he said that, I was like, Bro, that 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.520 was like low key, like the greatest flex of all time? 0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.279 Right? Can you tell everybody what U? Yeah? So so what? 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.200 So you can find this on face first podcast too 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:03.319 to listen to Troy say it. 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.279 Yeah, and it's on you know, it's on on face 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.239 first podcast, Instagram, it's on the Twitter, you'll see it. 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.839 So he basically said he was in a position where 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.720 he felt like he created and innovate and make moves 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:16.680 in the defense. Right, he had he had a job, 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.680 but he knew he could switch that job and try 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.279 to make a play. 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.520 Go from the A gap to half field, right, and 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:22.480 he goes. 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.279 He's like, and then I thought about it. I had 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:25.880 no more moves. He's like, I had been in the 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.000 A gap and went to the half. He's like, I 0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.200 had moved the d N around, I moved the nickel, 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.799 I played corner, I played safety. He was like, there 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:33.920 was nothing left. 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.759 For me to do. I jumped over the line of screen, right. 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.680 And so I'm sitting there listening to him and like 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:39.560 I'm saying. 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:40.720 Right right, and I sound like an idiot. 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.520 I'm like, right right, But I don't get it, you 0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.719 know what I mean, Like, it's not it's not processing 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.000 to me that you played in such a complex defense, 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.520 You've done all of these things that you truly feel 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.160 just mentally. It wasn't even physically he felt mentally there 0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.960 was nowhere else to go. And that was like that 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.239 that was a moment that I learned something about it. 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.719 And like we talk all the time, you know what 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.160 I mean, Like like our relationship and my you know, 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.080 my wife used to make fun of us. She's like, oh, 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.719 did you call Troy's hair today? Like our relationship, No, 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.800 I did. Our relationship was one of those like really 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.640 strange relationships. Like he would always go home and see 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:23.160 his family for home games, right, and I would stay 0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.960 at the hotel because like the hotel is for married people, 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.880 so you can get away from responsibility, yeah, you know, 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:30.960 and so bro and so if we had a one 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.880 o'clock game, Troy would peak me up from the hotel 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.840 at like seven thirty eight o'clock. We'd go over and guys, 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:39.400 don't like I'm gonna try to say this so it 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.799 doesn't sound as funny. So I'm just gonna pause it now, 0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.080 pause right for the rest of the conversation. Okay, we'd 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.879 get to the stadium, bro, we both like get. 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.680 Us pause podcast. 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.000 Yeah, yeah, Like we'd get to the stadium. We get 0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.400 to the stadium, like we set all our stuff up, 0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.880 like our supplements, our drinks, whatever. They ever put our shoulder, 0:36:57.880 --> 0:36:59.799 you know, get our shoulder pass ready. I would make 0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.400 a towels. I would make towels for our pants. Troy's 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.359 not fancy like that, but he liked the towel. Right, yeah, 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.560 so I do my towel, I do his. We put 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.560 him up whatever. He'd read the Bible. I'd read and 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:12.600 then he would like walk past you like you're ready, 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.439 and we would go. They had two hot tubs. We'd 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.640 sit bast each other, talk in the hot tubs whatever whatever. 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.359 Then we'd shower. He'd put his clothes and I put 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.560 I know what I'm saying. No pause, yeah, I pause 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:26.160 the beginning, and we shower. We'd get dressed. We dap 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.080 each other off, hug each other, and we say I 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.600 see you when the game starts, and like we'd separate, 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:32.959 do our thing, and then before every game we'd hug, 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.560 we talk and we say one more of many more. 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.000 Because that's what we started our first year starting together, 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.080 and we felt like we could do that for a 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.759 very long time, like that's what we would do and 0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.680 so and so, like we just had this relationship that 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.480 was different. And then there was Ike, who was totally 0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.560 different from both of us, Like we were both married, 0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.040 we both had kids. Ike is like this dude from 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.719 New Orleans who favorite saying is eye contact, get you 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:59.319 instant beef, you know, like I could, I could get 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.360 it to it people during the game and then like 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.359 if he saw you know, all season, it was not over, 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.279 like We're not gonna have a drink, none of that. 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:06.759 Like let's square up. Like that's how he is. 0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.040 Like now he boxes, like he goes to these different 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.279 boxing gyms and spars with people who actually box, like 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.480 that's who he is. And so to get all those 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.759 people together, man and do that, like that was a 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:18.480 dream for me. And I would have to text and 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.000 like Troy is one of those people that like don't 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.120 ever have a phone, Like he has a phone, but 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.600 he ain't worried about it. So I text him like, hey, bro, 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.120 let's do this podcast. He'd be like, two weeks later, 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.200 I'm sorry, Bro, I didn't see that the messages we 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.239 could do whatever. And then I text him like, hey, man, 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.680 Ike's in And a week later he was like, Okay, 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.839 is Ike still coming? And I was like, yes, Troy, 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.719 We're gonna be there on Monday, Bro, And so we 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.880 go and that's how it happens. And so now I 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.040 got one coming out this Friday with James Harrison. 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:45.319 Oh yeah, I saw that, you know what I mean. 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.120 And it's like, and I have I truly, I can 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.160 be honest with you. I don't know if I have 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.279 a goal or even a direction. Like I have a 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.239 marketing lady now, which is super weird, you know, and 0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:57.759 she's like, well, we got to do this with it 0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.680 and do that, and I was like, nah, I just 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.799 want to do shows. And I think that's what it's 0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.879 going to be for the time being, because I don't 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.520 know what the sweet spot is for it yet. 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:08.839 Yeah, I mean that. 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.759 Makes sense, and so we'll see where have you gain 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.640 gotten like obviously busting with the boys, But where else 0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.040 have you gotten inspiration from? 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:16.839 Obviously busting podcasting? 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.319 I feel like I feel like too, Like, I think 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:20.960 it's cool because I've been trying to get him on 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:22.120 so you can hook it up. 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:22.960 That'd be awesome too. 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.520 But watching I Am Athlete as well, I saw you 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.640 going that you were there when my boy Levante was 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.120 on our So I feel like what Brandon and them 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.560 do is is dope because of the production setup. I 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.600 feel like that just builds on the inspiration of guys 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:36.520 who want to do stuff. 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.120 Yeah, that's somewhere I grab now, No, that's that. That 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:39.880 that's crazy. 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:45.600 Alicia, who produces it, you know, is like different level though, 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:46.440 you know what I mean. 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:51.319 It's like it's I felt they have rolling credits at 0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:52.600 the end of the show. Bro I felt. 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.560 I mean, I felt super TV stupid riding over with 0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.000 her to do it because she produced. So they did 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.080 like a Path to the drast a House of Athletes, 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.200 you know, I trained. The DB's there and like we're 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.600 going over. She's talking about the hard knocks and she's 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.839 talking about the showtimes like twenty four. She did all 0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.319 of Floyd stuff, And the way she got to doing 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.960 Floyd stuff was was she did Koto stuff when he 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:15.960 was fighting Floyd, and Floyd is like, get me her 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.000 because she had me thinking that mother effort was gonna 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.640 beat me. Like She's like good like that, you know 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.160 what I mean. So well, it's just it's just such 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.319 a top notch team. And I remember going to do it, 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.720 and obviously so Chad wasn't there, so I was basically 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.400 taking Chad's place, but Dwayne Wade was there, and i'ma 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.240 be honest with you, Like I walked in the building, 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.719 I said on the show, I had like I had 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.400 one plan. I was gonna talk more than everybody, but 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.520 d Wade. That's it. Like Brandon wasn't gonna talk more 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.680 than me, Shanning Fred, none of those. Like if I'm 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.880 here one time, I'm gonna get it in. But what 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.520 they're doing. I think what they're doing is different because 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:53.719 they have a great group of dudes and they they 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.680 talk like friends. They like that they go in obviously 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.280 with the topic and it's easier when they have a guess, 0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.400 but what they're feeling they share, and I think people 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.600 gravitate toward that. And it helps when you have somebody 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:09.480 like Brandon who's had such public struggles with mental health. 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:13.040 Yeah, and he has what a borderline personality disorder. 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.400 Something I don't want to misquote it. I know I've 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.279 tried talking about it before too, and I'm just like, 0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:18.640 I don't want to go too what you do because 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.960 I'm not going to do that. But you know, he's 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.400 very he's very honest about it. He's very open about it. 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.839 He does a lot of service and activism with it. 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.680 And so to have somebody like that who's already been 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:32.040 so vulnerable allows the rest of the people on the 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.200 show to be And I think that's you know, like 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.600 that's a huge thing. I can't I don't necessarily know 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.040 if I want my show to go in that direction, 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.480 because the other piece of it is like it's only me, 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.680 you know, like like it's different if you get to 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.520 and so you do a lot of things, yeah, and 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.440 so it's it's different if you get to like if 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.680 you're talking to the same group of dudes, you know, 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.920 like the thing like you and Taylor, y'all obviously have 0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.319 like this great dynamic because y'all do it all the time, 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.680 and then when somebody else comes on, it's like y'all 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.920 too because y'all the boys and somebody else is on 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.520 the bus and y'all kind of let them get it. 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.440 But y'all still throw in who you guys are. I 0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.520 don't necessarily know like how that dynamic starts. 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.279 For me and with them too, they got I feel 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.120 like they started to take off on Ocho got added 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.080 to the to the whole segment that was, I mean, 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.200 you got you got, you got some known players who 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:20.960 are all sitting around each other talking and when you 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.839 got a character or personality like Ocho. 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:24.279 Like can't lose. 0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:28.360 You can't lose because remember when it started, it was 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:29.120 Reggie Wayne. 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:30.719 That's right, Yeah, that's right. 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.040 Remember when so when it started it was Reggie Wayne. 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.200 And I think when you add the right people to 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.000 stuff and they get start and you start saying, okay, 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:42.080 like Chad, like Chad was Ocho Sinko playing football, you know, 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.280 so let's get him doing what he what he does 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.520 and just film it and that's what and that's what happens. 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.759 And it's been it's been magic. Man, Like I'm really 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.719 excited for those dudes. I'm happy for him because it 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.520 also carves a different lane. And like the way I 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.120 look at it is like this, right, if if you 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.719 play linebacker or if I play safety, which we did 0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:05.080 and say we are really good players, and the top 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:10.200 dude gets two hundred million. I'm not mad at him, right, 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.719 I'm glad that you've made the number there because now 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.239 when they look at me and they say, oh, you're 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.839 a pro bowler, Okay, you're a starter for this long, 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.600 you definitely ain't worth two hundred million. But you know 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.880 what I can give you eighty Where do I sign? 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:24.160 Right? Right? 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.319 And that's what they're doing. They're elevating the game. They're 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.440 making the podcast game different, and you can watch the 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.920 moves they make, you can watch the way they do shows, 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.200 and then now you can pull from that what works 0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.080 for you and continue to build your brand. And so 0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.480 definitely shout out to be Marsh and those boys for 0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:40.960 what they're doing. And it was great to be on it. 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.000 That's why with my red jackets, so people remembered. 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:44.359 Hell yeah too. 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.000 And Levante he was so funny because I knew when 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.839 I saw him post picture of d Wade, I was like, oh, 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.600 this dude, I know he went from six to midnight 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.920 when he saw d Wade playing basketball. 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:58.280 Six to midnight. That's a penis joke. Yeah, six to midnight, 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:00.800 never heard it. There you have it. 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.719 You see how you don't understand the black thing. I 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:04.600 don't get that way. 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.520 Black. That's what happens. 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.440 I work with baseball, Like one of my partners a 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:14.399 baseball player, Bro, and uh, they're fascinated with that part 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.200 of the body for some reason. And and they say 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.520 they in baseball. Yes, I mean I feel like football players. Yeah, 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.280 but they say some stuff sometimes, Bro, And I'm like, wow, 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.720 I don't get that, but it sounds wrong. 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.719 Y'all can go and keep that conversation. Have they has? 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.800 I am a Have they monetized that yet? You know? 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:35.200 I don't. 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.680 I don't know because Bro Brandon has Brandon has uh 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:39.600 has has has? 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:40.680 I know he has other brand. 0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:44.279 He has big brain mentality in long term thinking. Yes, 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.719 because one yeah, realized he made a ton of money. 0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.960 Right enough, Like because I don't know if you've ever 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.080 met Quincy and none, Well, he used he was a receiver. 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.880 He ended up getting paid there before he got injured. 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.160 But he played with b marsh And I'm tired with 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.319 Quincy And I was like, hey, what's up B Marshal 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:00.800 because I was trying to get in touch with him. 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.200 He's like, Bro, like he's all time, Like he's somebody 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.880 who works extremely hard when he gets done with practice 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.400 and say he have a helicopter and take a helicopter 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.600 to go do you know TV or whatever the case 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.640 may be. So just talks about how much work he 0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.680 puts in this stuff, like House of Athlete all this stuff. 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:20.040 It's so crazy. It's so crazy because he thinks we're alike, 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:20.560 but we're not. 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:22.359 Yeah you know what I'm saying. 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.560 So, so I was the first one to do the 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:31.120 TV while playing thing. He was the second. Okay, yeah, Lane, 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.080 yes and so and so he was like yeah, or 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:34.759 see you know he was talking to me about it, 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.200 and I'll be like, b we're not actually the same. 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.120 And then like even with the gym, he talked to 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.560 me about like House of Athletes like five years ago 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.200 and doing that, and I was like, I don't really 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.319 know if I like. I think he has such a 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.480 like I have a real like workers mentality. He has 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:55.239 a very heavy boss mentality. Like he likes to he 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.960 likes to delegate, like he likes to create and I 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.960 like to and I like to create in a sense 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.320 of I like to create for me like I like to. 0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.040 I like to feel good about doing things like he 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.560 likes to create on such a mass scale. 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.319 You like to be boots on the ground. You like 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.160 to be yeah time. 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.080 Right and so and so, Like I think that's gonna 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.080 be the beauty of House of Athletes for him and 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:20.239 of I am athlete, because he's not going to be 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.160 in the rush, like like he's he's gonna understand and 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:26.040 see like this is like this is where I want 0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.000 to go, And until he gets there, he's not going 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.320 to do anything with it. He's not going to rush himself. 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.239 And I think that's the same thing that happened with 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.680 House of Athletes. Like he was building and building and 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.040 building and putting in architecture and putting in and looking 0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.240 for the right staff and to do the right things 0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.960 and and finally it got to where he wanted it 0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:48.399 and he did it. Morgan Wells, who is the head 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.000 of his like pro uh pro department, right, used to 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.680 work for me and like this dude man had brain 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.239 surgery at LSU. He ran hurdles uh he's where he 0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.840 worked at LSU. Then he worked at Traction for me 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.600 with dB Precision. Then he went to XOS, then he 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.759 went to IMG and Brandon was like after him, after him, 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.440 after him, after him, and he meant it. He was like, 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.600 I'm gonna get him, you know. And then he gets 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.080 to him and he has one of the largest combine 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:18.040 classes in the country, one of the best combined classes 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:19.719 in the country. You do path to the draft, you 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.719 do all these things, and he's so meticulous about each 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.600 step that I think, you know, he is a good 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.319 one to follow, not just based on what the podcast is, 0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:30.120 but based on the business. 0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:34.879 Absolutely he's smart. You can tell he's like he has 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:36.560 freedom about not being in a rush for. 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:42.720 Anything, no idea about NBA contracts, what he was getting. 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.680 He is such a large human like people don't get it. 0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:49.080 Like I got a picture with him from there, and you. 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:50.760 See that he boxed. I don't know how well he boys, 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.080 but enough for me to just be like. 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:54.640 Not to fight him. Yeah, right, Sure, I'm hitting him. 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.000 I'm hitting him with something out there gate and you 0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.440 gotta swing first too. But I've been talking to d 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:03.680 C about different holes and different submissions, and that's more 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.760 so where my fight game is going in my forties. 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:10.319 Speaking of fight game, are you ready to read? Are 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:11.160 you ready to do an ad? 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.279 Don't get to do an ad show, showtime, pay per view. 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.400 You get to talk about the Jake Paul vers Tyron Woodle. 0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:20.040 There. That's a very long ad to do, am I do? 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:21.480 I have to go all the way down to the 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.840 bottom of Yeah, you hit the point. 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I didn't know that you had 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:15.480 this side of you. 0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.120 Absolutely, And so one day, one day we were on 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.239 and they were doing like the Top ten, and it 0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:21.920 was like our cee, you were involved in the top ten. 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.200 So I get to talk like basketball, soccer, all these things, 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.640 and like sometimes like I mess up names because like 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.319 some of the names are weird, you know, but they 0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.040 just laugh about it. Had not everybody has two first names. 0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:35.160 Ryan Clark very simple, very simple. It's like I remember 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.680 and just off the subject, a recruiter comes down. I 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.080 went to a Catholic school, predominantly white. Recruiter comes down. 0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.000 They tell him Ryan Clark is down there, and he 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:43.239 didn't know it was me because he's looking for a 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:47.600 white boy. But anyway, so and so and so, you know. 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:49.799 So he was like, we're gonna start letting you read 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.160 your bumps. But but they wouldn't let me write them. 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.919 Obviously they were just written for me and I would 0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:58.319 have bumped. Sorry, So Bump said, so say say after say, 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:02.560 I'm going to talk about the Dallas Cowboys and Dak 0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:07.600 Prescott's contract in the next segment. Okay, and they they 0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:09.600 might What they might do is say still hand a 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:11.439 storm and be like and coming up Ryan Clark talked 0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:12.960 about such and such. But they would let me do 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.600 it for myself, right, So I'd be like, coming in 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.279 the show, I'm going to talk about Dak Prescott. He 0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.160 got one hundred and forty ms. What is Ezekiel Elliott 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.239 gonna do? And now what does this put the Cowboys 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:24.080 in the next season? 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:24.560 Okay? 0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.919 And so they write it for me, but they'd write 0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:31.040 it in like, you know, forty five year old white 0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.160 man boys, you know what I'm saying, and so and 0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.080 so like cornball heads boys, you know what I'm saying, 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.360 you know, And so like in reading it, I'd be like, guys, 0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.120 like that ain't me. And so the first time I 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.000 did it, you know, I kind of just bounced around 0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:44.879 like that and did it, and it was like every time, 0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:47.680 that's it. That's the way you read it every time 0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:49.719 from now on. And so like that you get to 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.840 do to do that type of prompter stuff. When Troy retired, 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.360 they let me write this piece up for him, and 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:57.600 I did that. And when I did that, I was 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.480 in the prompter. But they don't really give us like 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.440 those kind of opportunities. Which is the cool thing, Like, 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.239 which would be the cool thing for you hosting this show, 0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.319 It's not become the cool thing with me. Having a 0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:12.520 show with DC is like I get to read as 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:16.560 and I get to do bumps and do these different things. 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:21.240 John Saunders when he was at ESPN before he passed, 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.000 had a meeting. We had a meeting, you know, Like 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.080 I got a call It's like John Saunders wants to 0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:29.279 meet you, and I was like why, Like it's like 0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:31.879 he's like big time, yeah, Like what is why would 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:33.720 he ever want to talk to me? And he sits 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.719 me down and he goes, don't let them box you 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:39.520 into just being a football player. And at the time, 0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:41.319 like I didn't really understand it. I's like, well, I 0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:44.080 am a football player. But he was just basically saying 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:48.320 like you are talented enough to do all of these 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:52.560 things and you should do your best to try. And 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.360 that's that was like another thing with the podcast. It 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.000 was like I'm always doing the same thing. I'm basically 0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:02.560 doing other people's right, Like this producer wants you to 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.560 talk about this, so you go talk about it. I 0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.640 wanted to be in a space where I wrote the content. 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.960 I wrote the questions. I've decided how the show was 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:14.080 going to go. I controlled flow and that's what I do. 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:15.960 And like the cool part about it too, is like 0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:17.840 one time I went on and talked about when I 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.600 almost drowned in Mexico. I had nothing to do with sports, 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:23.480 you know. Another time I went on because I've been 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.319 in Mexico twice this year. Another time I went on 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:27.600 and I talked about when I was going to fight 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.279 this dude to the pool in Mexico. Nothing to do 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.200 with sports, but guess what, can't nobody tell me nothing 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.880 because it's my show, right, And like that's the cool part. 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:39.080 So going into you doing other segments because I didn't 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.080 want to get too far away from the fight game. 0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.239 You are now in that new MMA community, working with 0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:47.920 somebody like Daniel Cormier who's one of the ghats. How 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.239 did what was the motivation behind that? Like what made 0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:51.839 you want to get into that? Is that something you're 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:54.200 very interested in? Yeah, so talk about how you got 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.080 motivated on getting into that, getting that spot and then 0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.840 obviously now that you're in it, like battling at the MMA, 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:01.799 because you don't know enough about it because you played 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:02.600 Football said. 0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:06.600 First, the first thing is I often laugh because the 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:10.880 dude tweeting me or dming me is probably like me. 0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:13.000 You know what I'm saying, the sense of his fandom 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.160 for the UFC, you know what I mean. 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:16.439 I got. 0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:20.480 I still have like the Ultimate Fighting Knockouts DVDs that 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.520 I used to watch, like back in the early two thousands, 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:24.120 you know what I mean. 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.480 There's no weight classes. Yeah, like people fight, just a 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:27.160 huge tournament. 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.359 Yeah, like one dude got on boots and another dude 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:30.879 got on a G But the dude in the GI 0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.360 is three forty, the dude in the boots is one sixty, 0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:35.880 you know. And like Gracie wins those joints, you know 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:36.239 what I mean. 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:37.120 And then and like. 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:40.000 My first like my first favorite fighter was Chuck Ladell, 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:41.719 and I just because I just always thought he was 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:43.400 super cool because he was built like that and he 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.080 could knock people out right, you know. And so like 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:50.960 I remember, like my first championship fight was Coulture Ladell won, 0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.600 and Katur wins it, you know, but then it comes 0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:55.319 back and then you know, so I just loved all 0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:57.400 of it since then, and I just followed it. And 0:54:57.440 --> 0:54:59.360 so in the off season, like I would training Kempo 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.239 in Pittsburgh. I do kim poe a stand up, I 0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.960 do jiu jitsu, I grapple, and I used to work 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:06.840 on my tackling all the time, so like double a 0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:08.840 single ags and like I just always loved it and 0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:11.480 it was fascinated with it. And then as it evolves, 0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:13.480 you get a guy like John Jones who's this amazing, 0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:17.080 amazing athlete. Both his brothers played football, Anderson Silva right 0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.239 like you see all these dudes, George Saint Pierre, and 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:20.879 I just fell in love with it, so I would 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:24.640 follow it, and then it became this game of can 0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:25.879 I get my tweet on TV? 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:27.120 Right? 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:31.600 Like that the UFC sometimes all hashtag, like everybody's gonna 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:33.240 know I'm trying to get on the TV right now. 0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.239 You know what I'm saying, So and so like I 0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:37.040 am that type of tweeter, like like that's how I 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.360 got I got a section on get up a segment 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.120 that's explain your tweet because I like to because that's 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:45.000 how I talk to the world or have conversation because 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:46.759 I ain't nobody in my house watching the fight, Like 0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:49.640 my son's gone, he'll text me or facetiming when somebody 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:52.000 gets put to sleep, but I'm by myself in the front, 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.520 and that's how like I get interaction with people like oh, 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.200 you know, and so like that would happen, that would 0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:01.080 happen in my boss Seth markm who run NFL. He 0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:03.440 was like, bro, you really love this jump, don't you? 0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.000 And I was like yes. And so when I did 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.520 my new deal, did you ever get on TV all 0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:11.279 the time? I pretty much made like everyone even before 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:16.120 I got the job, yeah, and so yeah and so yeah, 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:20.240 because like when the one time, like probably about during 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.560 like the during COVID, I tweeted it one time. 0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.640 I was like, bro, how much do y'all think DC ways? 0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:26.520 You know what I mean? 0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:28.680 This is before I had a show with him, and 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:30.920 he like tweeted me back. He was like, man, I'm retired, bro, 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:32.400 you know what I mean, gumbo jump a live or 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:34.799 whatever to answer that question right. And so I got 0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:37.080 to I got a pilot. So in my deal, I 0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.040 was going to get a pilot. So say say I 0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:40.800 wanted to do Say. I was like I could have 0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:43.399 called you and been like, hey, man, ESPN Plus wants 0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:45.000 me to do a show like I love to do 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:46.839 some form of busting with the boys. Can I come 0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:48.520 talk to you, chop it up about how y'all do it? 0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.480 Produce it, talk to your people. I could have went 0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:52.560 to ESPN and say, you know, yeah, like I want 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.000 to do a show something like this, but I had 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:57.439 to find the making of where I had to find 0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:01.960 my people to do it. And so what happened Ario least, Yeah, 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.680 that's what. And they give DC a list of names, 0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:07.600 and I guess none of the people were of the 0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.040 m m A community though, right, So it was like 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:13.799 actors like other analysts. But they wanted the show to 0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.280 like broaden his reach. And they wanted because obviously you 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:19.000 got DC, like if you want real fighting out like 0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:21.280 the dude does detail like Peyton Manning does detail. 0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:21.960 He's crazy. 0:57:21.960 --> 0:57:24.520 He's crazy good, right And so uh And so I 0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:27.680 met d C probably four four years ago or so 0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:30.840 in the airport. We're walking through Atlanta and he's like, Ryan, 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.760 what's up? And we're talking and like I remember walking 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.840 away and calling my son Jordan. I was like, Jordan, 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.400 you what I was like, Bro, Damn call me and 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:40.000 knows who I am? 0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.240 You know what I mean? I was like, I was like, 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:43.920 your dad might be a star, you know what I mean. 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.960 So and so like he picked me, man, and and 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.360 my my boss called me. He's kind of running down 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:52.840 my schedule for the season. And he goes, oh, one 0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:58.200 more thing. There's this DC uh is getting a new 0:57:58.200 --> 0:57:59.680 part and he needs a new show. They want you 0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:02.680 to do ESPN Plus in the podcast with him, do 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:05.160 you want to do it? And I was like yeah, man, 0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:06.240 you know, I'm fired. 0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:08.560 Up, and like I'm yeah, I do it. 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:11.280 And he was like, oh, and so they're trying to 0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:14.440 start it live in Vegas, like there's some fight in 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.120 early July. I was like, oh McGregor Pourier and I 0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:18.840 was like yeah, Like they want you to be there 0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:20.640 to start the show then, and like go to the 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:22.640 fight and stuff. I was like, man, you know, it's 0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:25.520 like whatever the network needs, bro, like that sh the brand. 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.160 I was like, that's what they need me to do. 0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:29.440 And you know, I'll just make myself available, like I 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.920 have some things, but yeah, I'll move bro. I hung 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:33.920 that like I hung that phone up. I was chumping, 0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:39.280 you know what I mean. And so and so, bro 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:41.280 and so like we do the first one and I 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:43.680 think it's really good, right, Yeah, I was like, I'm 0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:46.720 talking about studied, bro, Like I'm watching like all kinds 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:48.920 of old fights, like I'm really into. 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:49.480 It and we do it. 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.120 I was like, here, you're about to take the old 0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:52.960 mentality of like Okay, I got to show the MMA 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:54.480 community that I'm I'm smart. 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:57.080 But see, no, not even that though, because the cool 0:58:57.120 --> 0:58:59.439 thing was like d C, DC put me at ease 0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:01.520 with this bro. He was like he was like RC 0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:03.520 because I was because I was like the whole time 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.000 on the production meetings, I'm down playing myself like DC, 0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:09.320 I'm not gonna try to like yeah, yeah, I'm gonna 0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:10.520 try to analyze bro, like I. 0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:10.960 Know that's you. 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:12.800 Like, I just want to come from a perspective of 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.040 somebody that loves it, you know. And he was like, 0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:17.880 shut that up, bro. He was like, nah, he's like 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:21.480 you coming at this from an elite level athlete standpoint. 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.720 He was like, yeah, you're a fan, but you understand 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.160 what it's like to be championship ready, Like you understand 0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.440 what it's like to win championships. And he's like, and 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:30.880 that's the He's like, and that's the way you're gonna 0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:32.240 come at the fight. And he was like, nah, you 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:34.800 ain't got to analyze whether or not the submission was 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.440 done right or or what hold he uses. But you 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.200 know what it's like to walk in to a training 0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:41.560 camp trying to prepare for something. 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:45.840 So he kind of put me at what I'm saying. 0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:47.520 I was fired up, and so we do the show 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:52.800 bro and everybody freaking hates me. Hey, I'm talking about 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:56.560 will I walked off like man that Joe was good. Man, 0:59:57.080 --> 0:59:59.320 Like they gonna feel me. But then, you know the 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.960 mm commune, especially since it's going to ESPN because their 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:05.640 ESPN is trying to broaden the reach of it. Obviously 1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:07.720 Dana wants to broaden the reach of it. It's like 1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:11.240 Steven Age's doing it. And it's such a like the 1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:14.760 mm A community is almost like if Busting with the 1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:18.880 Boys turned to Yacht with the Boys. Yeah, right, because 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:23.040 because because they've been with y'all from here, right and 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:26.480 and and they're they're like grassroots from the bottom fans. 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:29.320 Like when this thing blew up, like if y'all started 1:00:29.360 --> 1:00:31.880 bringing on like other people or got other people involved, 1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:33.320 like they would hate them because they would be like, 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:35.600 that's not what it is. When all y'all are trying 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:37.680 to do is say, now, what we have is a 1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:41.080 great thing, and we just want more people to feel it. 1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:43.240 We don't want to get rid of you. We always 1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:45.040 want y'all. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, we the 1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:48.040 garage band, and just because we selling out arena, we're 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.600 not gonna change our music. It just means that you 1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:52.360 got to buy your ticket earlier if you want to 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:53.920 get as close as you got to us in the 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:56.000 other arenas. And that's kind of what we're trying to do. 1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:58.040 Shout out to Tier ones. That's a good pet thot 1:00:58.080 --> 1:00:59.120 for the tier ones out there. 1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:01.680 That's how that's like our that's like our light level 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:03.520 fan base, wolf packed tier ones. 1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:04.080 Whatever. 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:06.000 Well some of your some of your tier ones when 1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:07.280 you said when I when. 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:10.000 Oh, buddy, trust me anytime, I'm like, yeah, I got 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.840 the boy RC coming on. I'm just thinking like whenever 1:01:12.880 --> 1:01:15.360 I drop it, I just know because the majority of 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:17.800 our greedy tier ones are Titans fans. 1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:19.160 Bro, you know what? 1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:20.920 So hang on, hang do we need to get an 1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.800 ad before we talk about this? 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Make sure 1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:57.440 you're ready to have confidence again, Ryan and control this 1:02:57.560 --> 1:02:59.680 summer the Roman Ready way. 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:02.920 So so the little time you're reading that, look what 1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:05.280 I'm thinking, all the tier ones are gonna be like, yeah, 1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:07.920 that's probably why you said that about Derrick Heary, because 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:09.400 even Will said it, you have it wreck. 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:14.400 I mean, he's just bottle ned. He's projecting right right. 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:16.800 So let's get into it. You you had some comments 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:19.440 about Derek Henry last year. 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:22.000 I'm gonna need some memory. There we go, Derrick Henry 1:03:22.040 --> 1:03:23.800 doesn't run over anybody. 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:26.160 Close to his size dot dot. I assume there's some 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:28.440 more contact in there. That's usually what that means. Has 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:34.040 late play bravery. Now I'm gonna step back. I was 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.280 on the team, you know, in my head like okay, 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:38.800 we were gonna we were gonna humble the Steelers, which 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:40.560 we showed up in the second half almost at that 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:42.080 we didn't show up at the beginning of the game. 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:44.360 Rebel toasted after the game that we should have beat him. 1:03:44.360 --> 1:03:46.840 So I believe him. But go ahead, I'm gonna step back. 1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:48.560 I'm gonna let you take this quote. 1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:51.240 Yeah, and so so here's here you rally cry for 1:03:51.280 --> 1:03:53.400 Pittsburgh Nation and try to get a love to bro. 1:03:53.520 --> 1:03:55.840 I know they were so fired up. Gosh I was 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:58.000 that was such a great play by me, such a 1:03:58.040 --> 1:04:03.560 great TV moment. So here's the thing, right, and in 1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:06.000 sitting in that seat and sitting in that seat, it's 1:04:06.040 --> 1:04:08.120 it's very hard to get away from who you are, 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:12.880 right you play with me, Like getting to run over 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:14.600 was never a thought on mine, because I feel like 1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:17.320 gunfighters get shot, right, Like, if you run up in 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:20.840 there enough, you're gonna get ran over. Like that that's 1:04:20.880 --> 1:04:24.000 what happens. Like it's not a big deal. But and 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:26.680 and you're not necessarily yet in this world, but you 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:29.240 will be because you're good at this job. When you 1:04:29.280 --> 1:04:32.000 get around no offense to these people. When you get 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:35.560 around normal people, they see life different than we see it, 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:38.040 you know what I'm saying. So that that whole time 1:04:38.080 --> 1:04:40.360 I had been in meetings with people all week that 1:04:40.560 --> 1:04:44.040 just talked about Josh Norman getting stiff formed, right, and 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:48.920 just from the plain football perspective or the physical perspective, 1:04:49.200 --> 1:04:52.600 one dude six' four arms Like gianni's. 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:55.960 Bro any photo he has, them just, like how does 1:04:55.960 --> 1:04:56.480 this dude get? 1:04:56.480 --> 1:05:00.640 Bigger like if you, can't your arms ain't longer than, 1:05:00.640 --> 1:05:02.760 his you ain't stronger than, His you're gonna get stiff, 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:06.720 Form like getting stiff formed is not to me necessarily 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:10.720 as physical of a play as the common world makes, it, right, 1:05:10.800 --> 1:05:11.680 right and so and. 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:13.560 So because now you got, memes now you got, video, 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:14.880 right and SO i just kept hearing. 1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:17.280 It and then if you think about his two most 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:21.400 famous stiff form was Turning Earl thomas into a lead 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:24.680 blocker right from a, tackler and then The Josh norman 1:05:24.760 --> 1:05:25.760 thing two people. 1:05:25.520 --> 1:05:27.800 That i'm bigger than And i'm not big, right and. 1:05:27.800 --> 1:05:29.920 So LIKE i just kept hearing, it AND i was like, 1:05:30.000 --> 1:05:33.280 Bruh like, yes like look at the, dude He's Chase 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:37.480 young that plays running back and that's, Faster like that's gonna, happen, 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:41.400 Right but WHEN i Watched Derrick henry's run, style, right 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:44.600 his run style is straight up right and so there 1:05:44.640 --> 1:05:46.720 are PEOPLE i have lost to in the open. Field 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:48.400 you know What i'm, Saying Like i've been in the open. 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:50.520 Field like Ray rice ran me over one time in 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:51.760 open field AND i grabbed. 1:05:51.520 --> 1:05:53.760 His leg and like held. On he made the. Tackle, 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:54.280 YEAH i made the. 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:56.880 Tackle but then but he walked over to like the 1:05:56.920 --> 1:05:59.400 crowd and he's, flexing And i'm pissed off just because 1:05:59.440 --> 1:06:01.640 Like i'm, like, oh you understand. Football you know what this. 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:04.040 WAS i had to break. DOWN i had to break 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:06.120 down in the middle of the. FIELD i still got you. 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:08.720 Down you're supposed to score in. Practice you're getting hyped 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:10.640 up right, Defense, like, yo let's go. 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:12.800 Right, right right, right and so and so and so 1:06:12.880 --> 1:06:14.480 we get to the sideline of that. Play i'm going 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:17.520 off subject. Here i'll be back. Right so we get 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:21.640 to the sideline AND i Tell Vince. WILLIAMS i was, 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:23.480 LIKE i need you to give me a small. Space 1:06:23.880 --> 1:06:26.320 and he's, like what are you talking? ABOUT i, SAID i, 1:06:26.360 --> 1:06:28.280 said IF i, said If i'm inserting in the, RUN 1:06:28.840 --> 1:06:31.280 i need you to make sure that you have your 1:06:31.320 --> 1:06:33.360 blocker in the place to where Ray rice doesn't have 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:35.320 a long way to. Go and here's WHY i say 1:06:35.360 --> 1:06:38.280 that's the right man to talk to, you, Right, yeah exactly. 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:40.600 So but here's WHY i say. THAT i feel like 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:43.800 that in that, moment right in that moment WHERE i 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:46.320 know you only got one spot to. Go you, KNOW 1:06:46.520 --> 1:06:48.600 i know you only got one spot to. Go there's 1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:50.280 only one way out of, there like you got to 1:06:50.320 --> 1:06:54.440 go through. Me and in my in my thirteen years 1:06:54.440 --> 1:06:59.480 OF nfl, Football i've never lost that play. Ever you 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:01.320 can look at, it you can go try to find. 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:04.480 It in thirteen years of football a small, space you 1:07:04.480 --> 1:07:06.640 ain't got nowhere to. GO i ain't gonna never lose 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:08.320 that play Because i'm gonna put my hands behind my, 1:07:08.360 --> 1:07:10.959 back jump off two, feet and we ain't gonna stop 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:14.080 till my face mask hit your face, mask, period, Right 1:07:14.120 --> 1:07:16.040 and so like that's the WAY i see. Football get 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:19.920 and in that way of seeing, football, right because you 1:07:19.960 --> 1:07:22.680 get all the tweets Of Tennessee tights. Fans me in my, 1:07:22.800 --> 1:07:26.120 PRIME i like my chances against twenty, two, Right and 1:07:26.240 --> 1:07:29.200 ALL i said that week was in that. Moment ever 1:07:29.280 --> 1:07:32.360 seeing him in that moment against people his, SIZE i 1:07:32.440 --> 1:07:35.280 haven't seen him drop a shoulder and run through. 1:07:35.280 --> 1:07:38.440 People but, yeah when he get back there by DB's, hell. 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:40.600 Yeah he tossing him like that's the, thing and this 1:07:40.680 --> 1:07:44.400 is not for me what Camera i'm looking. AT i 1:07:44.600 --> 1:07:47.680 Think Derrick henry is a great running. Back he's one 1:07:47.720 --> 1:07:50.680 of the top running backs in the. League, YES i 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:53.560 can say that and still believe all those other Things 1:07:53.680 --> 1:07:56.920 i've said are. True, Right and so in that you 1:07:57.040 --> 1:08:00.000 go back To, cleveland Short yordage near the goal, line 1:08:00.280 --> 1:08:03.080 has an opportunity with one. Linebacker the linebacker gets him 1:08:03.080 --> 1:08:06.320 down right splaying in that. Situation you can't totally take 1:08:06.360 --> 1:08:08.320 that right because you got a little bit OF. Tj 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:10.920 watt there to Where derek really can't run through. 1:08:10.960 --> 1:08:13.600 It and we're Big splain, fans right because he was With. Tennessee, 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:14.360 FRANK i love. 1:08:14.400 --> 1:08:17.000 Him but if you, watch if you Watch derek's feet 1:08:17.360 --> 1:08:20.880 at those, moments they stop. Right it's not one of 1:08:20.920 --> 1:08:23.320 those situations where he gets in that moment and it's, like, 1:08:23.760 --> 1:08:25.920 not it's time to accelerate through this guy's. Chest but, 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:27.760 yeah IF i got you off to the side AND 1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:30.960 i can get this long ass alien arm on your, 1:08:31.040 --> 1:08:33.280 chin strap on your, chin on your face, Mask i'm 1:08:33.280 --> 1:08:35.640 finna toss. You and so WHAT i said about the 1:08:35.720 --> 1:08:39.560 late play bravery was so much of like the safety 1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:42.960 in me just being tired of hearing it and like 1:08:43.560 --> 1:08:47.000 and to my, fault, right to my. FAULT i shouldn't 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:48.760 have done it that, way you know What i'm, saying 1:08:49.000 --> 1:08:50.960 way like the way LIKE i did, it in the 1:08:51.000 --> 1:08:53.320 WAY i DO. Tv, RIGHT i did it in talking like, 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:55.320 This BUT i felt like it. 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:57.560 Made it to talk about making it, Theatrical, yeah which is. 1:08:57.600 --> 1:08:59.320 Part but you're YOU'RE i mean you played for The, 1:08:59.360 --> 1:09:02.040 steelers like it was two teams out of what are 1:09:02.040 --> 1:09:02.840 our records and we're both. 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:05.560 Undefeated huge game and so it's a huge. 1:09:05.280 --> 1:09:07.479 Game, right and so but Like i'm ON tv, though 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:10.360 and Like stephen And max or like talking to, me 1:09:10.439 --> 1:09:12.960 like people should be scared Of Derrick. Henry and WHAT 1:09:13.000 --> 1:09:15.760 i was trying to explain, is, no you should be 1:09:15.800 --> 1:09:19.160 scared Of Derrick, henry, right you, know like like and 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:21.719 like and like that was the POINT i was trying 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:24.400 to get. Across you should be scared of. HIM i 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:28.160 ain't scared of, him like When John, Jones like When John, jones, 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:30.120 UH i forget WHO i think it was at The 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:33.400 francis beat Step a, right And John jones puts out 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:36.200 this video and he was, like y'all, saying LIKE i 1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:38.960 should be scared Of Steep francis And. 1:09:38.960 --> 1:09:41.559 Gandu he's, like you probably, Ain't John. 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:44.400 Jones AND i felt that because you know, WHY i 1:09:44.439 --> 1:09:46.679 Saw francis And gandu in The vegas and the lobby 1:09:46.720 --> 1:09:47.880 and the, lobby And i'm. 1:09:47.760 --> 1:09:51.120 Scared you know What i'm, Saying, Yeah, john you, Right, 1:09:51.240 --> 1:09:52.679 JOHN i. AM i ain't. 1:09:52.720 --> 1:09:55.799 You i'm. Scared you cannot be. Scared but When Myles 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:58.720 garrett with hands walks through the, lobby it makes me, 1:09:58.800 --> 1:10:02.080 nervous you, know and so and so like and like. 1:10:02.000 --> 1:10:02.599 That's WHAT i was. 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:05.439 Feeling and then like, finally like ON TV, bro BECAUSE 1:10:05.439 --> 1:10:07.920 i had been fighting it all, morning it balled over 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:10.760 AND i said it that, way AND i, actually, like 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:14.040 for the first time in a long, TIME i felt 1:10:14.080 --> 1:10:17.120 bad BECAUSE i really Respect Derrick henry in the sense 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:20.320 that when you look at somebody like that, big that, 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:23.920 fast that much, vision that type of lateral, movement like 1:10:24.000 --> 1:10:26.880 he really is a very good. Back like this guy 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:28.400 has a chance to be A hall Of famer if, 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:30.800 this if this continues two or three more, years whatever 1:10:30.800 --> 1:10:32.880 happens after that could. Happen he's probably gonna be A 1:10:32.920 --> 1:10:34.880 hall Of, famer AND i get, that but in that, 1:10:35.000 --> 1:10:38.240 moment BRO i was, like, nah LIKE i ain't never 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:41.880 seen him against somebody who could look. Him nobody looks, 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:45.160 him dang their eyed eye could look him. Almost who 1:10:45.160 --> 1:10:47.559 can hook him up in the? Eye who can who 1:10:47.560 --> 1:10:49.639 can be on the same rack in the weight, room 1:10:49.680 --> 1:10:51.920 not necessarily with the same, weight but on the same, 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:53.599 rack so the coaches ain't got to take a lot 1:10:53.640 --> 1:10:53.920 of weight. 1:10:53.960 --> 1:10:55.160 OFF i ain't. 1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:57.599 Never seen him move those people when they were standing 1:10:57.680 --> 1:11:00.559 right in front of each. Other and to be, honest 1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:04.000 at this point in my, life which is a year, 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:05.200 LATER i still. 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:07.559 Haven't and that doesn't mean that he. 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:10.760 Can't it just means that he. Hasn't and like that 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:15.360 was the. Point the POINT i made is one not only. 1:11:15.479 --> 1:11:22.599 Right two it's, true it doesn't mean and it doesn't mean. 1:11:22.600 --> 1:11:25.400 But there's still he's still playing like it can happen 1:11:25.479 --> 1:11:27.440 this year and then, no it's no longer, true. 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:31.559 Correct but it was true at the. Time and you 1:11:31.600 --> 1:11:34.000 know what happens when he does. IT i go ON 1:11:34.080 --> 1:11:36.920 tv AND i, say you know, What, derek you did 1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:39.400 SOMETHING i said you couldn't do same way that people 1:11:39.400 --> 1:11:40.360 had to sit around and, say you. 1:11:40.400 --> 1:11:40.800 Know, what you're. 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:43.800 Honest you were seventeen for nineteen in a close out 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:47.400 game in the. Finals the STUFF i said then that was, 1:11:47.479 --> 1:11:50.200 TRUE i can no longer. Say and so then if 1:11:50.240 --> 1:11:53.240 anything happens after, THAT i can't, Say Derreck carrey ain't 1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:56.479 never made his own, hole, Right Derek carrey ain't never 1:11:56.520 --> 1:11:59.240 stumped on somebody's chest without all the stiff for. 1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:02.040 HIM i can't say. That but guess what right? Now tier? 1:12:02.120 --> 1:12:04.000 Ones right, NOW. 1:12:04.600 --> 1:12:06.880 I LOVE i just got The tier one right, Now 1:12:06.920 --> 1:12:09.880 Tennessee titans, FANS i can still say it and guess, 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:10.679 what he. 1:12:10.600 --> 1:12:14.800 Could still be a good, back Right like what? 1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:17.400 Sucks what sucks? Too AND i know you feel this 1:12:17.439 --> 1:12:20.880 way when you were a. Player it was is the 1:12:20.920 --> 1:12:23.519 fact that the worst case that comes from you is 1:12:23.520 --> 1:12:25.120 you're LIKE i get to go ON i can go 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:27.960 ON tv and be, like, Look, derek he did he did. 1:12:28.000 --> 1:12:30.960 This it is now no longer. True he has ran over. 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:33.400 Somebody like you can say all this stuff and that's 1:12:33.760 --> 1:12:37.479 that is your h like, punishment right like you don't 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:39.280 have to answer, that that's your way of getting around. 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:40.080 It like that's what. 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:42.080 Sucks as like a, player AND i wanted to ask 1:12:42.120 --> 1:12:45.240 you about that, too is like going fully to that other, 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:48.080 side to where you have to be so objective to 1:12:48.120 --> 1:12:50.680 where you know that you're gonna, Get like you know 1:12:50.720 --> 1:12:52.400 the boys in the locker. Room you're not that far, 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:55.160 removed even probably when you had to talk about Your steelers. 1:12:54.840 --> 1:12:55.960 At times when they weren't playing that. 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:57.400 Well like some of the words are, Like, yo why 1:12:57.439 --> 1:12:59.800 is r he saying talking like that when there's zero 1:12:59.840 --> 1:13:01.840 context to the whole. Thing obviously you got to do 1:13:01.880 --> 1:13:06.800 it within like thirty, seconds but now you're your punishment 1:13:06.840 --> 1:13:08.640 for that is like when he does do, it AND 1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:09.840 i will be the first one to go ON. 1:13:09.920 --> 1:13:12.759 Tv but that's your. Cycle that gets to be your cycle, 1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:13.400 Now like. 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:16.400 That's that's you as a player when you made, It 1:13:16.479 --> 1:13:18.599 like when you made that, play like if somebody's sitting 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:19.719 there or that, oh. 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:21.479 We get to that story, Too like when that that 1:13:21.640 --> 1:13:23.600 inch away from making that play on that ball In 1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:26.160 Super bowl forty five With Aaron rodgers and SOMEBODY O 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:27.160 Ryan clark is out. 1:13:27.200 --> 1:13:30.320 THERE i haven't seen him make that play blah blah. 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:34.720 Blah, right and then that YOUNG rc sitting there as an, 1:13:34.760 --> 1:13:36.880 athlete you know you're thinking. 1:13:36.960 --> 1:13:38.640 That our c ON tv is kind of living a 1:13:38.640 --> 1:13:39.400 little rent free in your. 1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:40.920 Head but you're, Like i'm gonna prove that. Wrong when 1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:43.200 you prove it, wrong that person just gets to go ON. 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:44.240 Tv, okay he made the. 1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:46.840 Play, YEAH i mean that's the that's the beauty of. 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:50.559 It but you know, what two, though Will, MAN i 1:13:50.600 --> 1:13:54.439 will say, this like the one Thing i'll never do 1:13:55.000 --> 1:14:00.439 is speak to the character or the character of ball 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:03.960 integrity of a. Person you know What i'm, Saying LIKE 1:14:03.960 --> 1:14:05.840 i don't Think Derrick henry is. SCARED i just think 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:08.200 that's the way he, runs you. KNOW i think that's 1:14:08.240 --> 1:14:11.320 who he. Is you, Know LIKE i wasn't ever LIKE 1:14:11.360 --> 1:14:13.000 i was never going to go into the meeting with 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:15.479 Coach lebou and be, like hey, man when they ain't 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:17.919 three pox one And Randy moss is on the, BACKSIDE 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:20.240 i want you to put me man to man right 1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:22.479 because you know WHY i can't cover, Him like that's 1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:24.920 not my game and so and SO i, think you, 1:14:24.920 --> 1:14:26.600 know and SO i think that like that's the like 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:29.360 that's the one other thing. Too it's like you could 1:14:29.400 --> 1:14:32.439 BE i can be as complementary of a guy AS 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:36.320 i want all the. Time but if something is true to, me, 1:14:36.479 --> 1:14:38.519 right because let's not say it's. True IF i feel 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:41.000 Like i've watched enough film to be able to make 1:14:41.000 --> 1:14:44.920 a statement about the way someone plays and his fans 1:14:44.960 --> 1:14:45.799 don't like, it. 1:14:45.880 --> 1:14:46.760 Then you can never be. 1:14:46.880 --> 1:14:50.559 Right also, too not only is that the punishment you 1:14:50.560 --> 1:14:52.680 don't get to come back from that will, right like 1:14:52.680 --> 1:14:55.120 like even, now like WHEN i, said LIKE i GOTTA 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:59.200 i gotta whole thread the other Day Derrick henry stiff 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:05.120 arming people his size when when ONE i know he 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:08.240 steps arms people like that wasn't my, comment you know 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:09.880 What i'm saying like, That like that wasn't LIKE i 1:15:09.920 --> 1:15:11.840 get it he could do. That, Nah i'm talking about 1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:14.640 face up me and you like you know and so 1:15:14.720 --> 1:15:18.280 like you just we're we're in a position where if 1:15:18.320 --> 1:15:21.639 you don't say good things about everyone all the, time 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:24.960 you can't be loved by everyone all the. 1:15:25.040 --> 1:15:27.680 Time Dan orlowski. 1:15:27.760 --> 1:15:30.840 Everybody who is super smart sent me a text me 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:34.120 And Marcus spears actually and he was, like you, know, 1:15:34.280 --> 1:15:36.479 man he just, SAID i Hope dan doesn't get mad about, 1:15:36.520 --> 1:15:38.880 this just saying LIKE i love the way that you 1:15:39.000 --> 1:15:41.400 guys aren't scared to be, wrong and LIKE i didn't 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:43.120 know how to take it at, first BECAUSE i was, 1:15:43.160 --> 1:15:43.960 like is he. 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:46.400 Saying i'm wrong a? Lot you know What i'm. SAYING 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:49.519 i was, like dang d do you feel Like i'm 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:49.880 wrong a? 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:53.240 Lot and But, dan it's a. Sweetheart SO i didn't 1:15:53.240 --> 1:15:55.160 take it that. Way and WHAT i told him is. 1:15:55.200 --> 1:15:59.680 THIS i was, like, one we are constantly trying to 1:15:59.720 --> 1:16:04.479 be prophetic about other adult, people, right we're trying to 1:16:04.560 --> 1:16:07.800 predict the future many times of what's gonna. HAPPEN i, 1:16:07.840 --> 1:16:11.040 said can't be? Right, like you just. CAN'T i, said 1:16:11.080 --> 1:16:14.120 but here's the. Thing it's okay to be. Wrong you 1:16:14.200 --> 1:16:16.439 just have to have a good reason for being. Wrong 1:16:17.320 --> 1:16:21.439 AND i think that's what's motivated the WAY i DO. 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:23.680 Tv like IF i could go to the, like IF 1:16:23.720 --> 1:16:26.880 i can, say, well this is the, thing and here's 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:29.840 the play of WHY i say why, right here's the 1:16:29.840 --> 1:16:33.720 play of WHY i think this. Thing you cannot agree with, 1:16:33.760 --> 1:16:37.080 me BUT i can, say here's the evidence that it, happens. 1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:40.880 Right and so that's always been my. Thing, now Say 1:16:41.520 --> 1:16:44.320 Derrick henry comes Out week, one he's faced up with 1:16:44.360 --> 1:16:46.720 somebody in the hole and runs over, him which he 1:16:46.880 --> 1:16:50.519 very well, could because he's a ginormous. Man right, THEN 1:16:50.520 --> 1:16:52.880 i could be, like, man shoot of all the Film 1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:54.880 i've ever, Watched, like that's the first TIME i Seen 1:16:55.120 --> 1:16:57.400 Derreck henry do. That, now if he's added that to his, 1:16:57.479 --> 1:16:58.439 game how do you stop this? 1:16:58.520 --> 1:17:03.600 Guy? Right and and and now it's a nice, way that's. 1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:05.360 It but it's not. 1:17:05.479 --> 1:17:09.360 That the thing that will bro LIKE i don't need 1:17:09.400 --> 1:17:10.960 a way out of, it you know What i'm, saying 1:17:11.640 --> 1:17:12.840 because because, no it's not even. 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:15.160 That the thing IS i don't need a. Way so 1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:17.120 when he, does it will but you're gonna be, like, 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:18.320 Hey i'm taking this. 1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:22.080 One but the thing is this Though tennessee, fans Right 1:17:22.200 --> 1:17:26.040 tier one fans right, ye are going to run to 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:27.160 My twitter. 1:17:28.320 --> 1:17:29.120 To tell me about. 1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:32.800 It let me say it, again like like like like 1:17:32.800 --> 1:17:34.639 like like say. It let me say it. Again they're 1:17:34.680 --> 1:17:39.000 going to run to My twitter to say you know 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:39.360 what else? 1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:39.759 Happens? 1:17:39.800 --> 1:17:42.760 Though every time he plays so, Well Deshaun, elliott which 1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:44.800 really wasn't a face up, here, Right derek makes a, 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:49.160 Move deshaun sticks. Him guess what everybody? Did ran to my? Twitter, 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:52.040 Right splaine sticks? Him what does everybody? 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:54.400 Do run to My? Twitter so? Forever? 1:17:54.760 --> 1:18:00.120 Right Whether Derek herey wins a play or loses a, play. 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:03.160 Everybody comes to me because they're trying to say and 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:06.280 that's and So ryan's an. Investor so here's the hard. Part, 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:07.840 Right so here's the hard. 1:18:07.840 --> 1:18:11.479 PART i never wanted TO i never wanted to walk 1:18:11.640 --> 1:18:16.360 that statement. Back BUT i also didn't want it to 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.080 be THAT i was wishing and hoping For derek Can 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:21.320 rey to, fail you know What i'm, saying, Right and 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:25.120 so now and so now you're like you're Playing twitter 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:28.320 double dutch when people sing you things, right because on 1:18:28.360 --> 1:18:30.519 the one, end you're getting things when he, loses and 1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:32.240 you kind of want to be, like, yeah that's you, 1:18:32.240 --> 1:18:34.200 know people like just Like Ryan clark said such as, 1:18:34.200 --> 1:18:35.920 such like you kind of want to be, like, yeah 1:18:35.960 --> 1:18:39.800 that's WHAT i, said. Right or you get him stiff 1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:43.120 forming like the big lineman last, year and you, know 1:18:43.120 --> 1:18:45.400 people like, say you say he doesn't stiff form people his, 1:18:45.520 --> 1:18:46.960 size and then they want to be, like, nah that 1:18:47.000 --> 1:18:48.800 wasn't WHAT i was talking. About and so now you 1:18:48.840 --> 1:18:50.719 got to play this game the whole time of people 1:18:50.760 --> 1:18:53.040 thinking you Hate Derrick henry when you really, don't like 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:54.880 he's like every other running back in the, league like 1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.040 you hope he does, well it doesn't really put money 1:18:57.040 --> 1:18:58.960 in your pocket if he does or. Not but because 1:18:59.000 --> 1:19:02.040 you say, this, now this is now always attached to. 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:04.519 You but that's part of the, gig you know What i'm. 1:19:04.520 --> 1:19:07.080 Saying and so with that being part of the, gig 1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:09.519 the thing you gotta do is you got to figure 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:12.120 out you got to figure out who you doing this. 1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:15.880 For The Tennessee titans fans are never gonna love me, holistically, 1:19:16.280 --> 1:19:18.640 Right they're never gonna love me, unconditionally even BEFORE i 1:19:18.680 --> 1:19:20.679 said that About Derrick, henry because they're. 1:19:20.520 --> 1:19:22.360 Maybe they'll have a new respect now because you're on 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:23.559 bust with the, boys, Right. 1:19:23.479 --> 1:19:25.040 But that's because you love. Me that's because you're my, 1:19:25.040 --> 1:19:27.360 family like my. Nephew this is you, know they didn't 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:28.599 want you to have me on, here you just, did, 1:19:29.000 --> 1:19:32.080 Right so and so LIKE i gotta, LIKE i gotta 1:19:32.120 --> 1:19:36.040 accept that. Matter like you talk about locker room WHEN 1:19:36.080 --> 1:19:38.599 i would do my top five every, week, RIGHT espn 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:40.000 just likes me to do it BECAUSE i do it 1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:41.880 in like a different, Way LIKE i barely talk about the. 1:19:41.920 --> 1:19:44.439 Team i'm just being funny and saying things and having 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:48.000 a great, time just having a great. Time, RIGHT i 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:51.760 didn't put The steelers, undefeated and they weren't my number one. Team, 1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:55.599 okay The Kansas City chiefs. Were and guess, WHAT i 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:58.479 was right at the point because they were. Better and 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:02.599 So Rick ebron AND i forget this tackle on this tackles. 1:20:02.680 --> 1:20:05.559 Name he was injured at the. Time active on SOCIAL tooa, 1:20:05.640 --> 1:20:08.400 right very, active, right he's got a. Podcast, YEAH i didn't. 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:10.040 Know and so. 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:14.800 You, know he said something about like me not putting 1:20:14.880 --> 1:20:17.720 them number one or whatever, whatever AND i was just, 1:20:17.760 --> 1:20:20.200 like oh, man you know there's reason behind, It LIKE 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:21.760 i feel listen to. THIS i had you guys THAT 1:20:21.760 --> 1:20:23.519 i have you guys at number. Two WHATEVER i Think 1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:25.639 Kansas city may have lost or. SOMETHING i can't say 1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:28.280 that already. LOST i still have number, one and, uh you, 1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:30.960 Know and so LIKE i was being nice about, it you, 1:20:31.000 --> 1:20:32.920 KNOW i was, like he probably feels some type of 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:35.240 WAY i played For. STEELERS i was being nice about. 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:38.200 It so he tweets me something, again, Right SO i 1:20:38.200 --> 1:20:41.840 tweet him, back AND i was, like and, like he's 1:20:41.920 --> 1:20:45.120 kind of joking at. LEAST i didn't really take it 1:20:45.160 --> 1:20:47.400 at that like that at, first but it felt like he, was, 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:50.519 uh you, know SO i kind of joke back and say, yeah, 1:20:50.560 --> 1:20:52.240 man you're, right you, know but this is HOW i, 1:20:52.280 --> 1:20:55.120 felt SO i said. It so he has another. One 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:58.840 now you come at me this many. Times, NOW i 1:20:58.840 --> 1:21:02.840 think we have a personal, problem RIGHT i, AM i 1:21:02.880 --> 1:21:03.439 am forty? 1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:08.480 One, right you got D i got ed from Apparently 1:21:08.880 --> 1:21:09.519 i'm gonna Go. 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:15.400 Roman you, know and so like, eventually you, know like 1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:16.920 it got to the POINT i was, LIKE i don't 1:21:16.920 --> 1:21:20.800 play like that, though you know What i'm. SAYING i was, like, 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:23.519 LIKE i don't know what they tell you about me around. 1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:26.599 THERE i was, like but like that whole like checking 1:21:26.640 --> 1:21:29.920 me and stuff that gets like one or two tweets 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:33.000 While i'm cool with. It and then eventually it's we 1:21:33.080 --> 1:21:34.880 have a personal. Problem and the only WAY i know 1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:36.840 how to have no personal problems is like face to. 1:21:36.880 --> 1:21:38.760 FACE i was, like the same things they, Say, YEAH 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:40.760 i was, like, yeah pretty. MUCH i was like the 1:21:40.760 --> 1:21:42.559 same THINGS i say ON. TV i was, LIKE i 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:45.280 come to your locker room and, say you know WHAT i? 1:21:45.360 --> 1:21:49.160 Mean And banner was his, name and like he started 1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:50.760 saying some stuff and at the time like he. 1:21:50.800 --> 1:21:52.240 Was, hurt you know WHAT i. 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:54.720 Mean and it took AND i can, admit Like i'm 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:56.800 not the best person at all. Times it took a 1:21:56.800 --> 1:21:59.400 lot for me to not talk about what his career 1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:02.440 was before or that and then him now being. Hurt 1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:04.479 but it was basically, like, hey, man min your, business 1:22:04.520 --> 1:22:06.519 because then he jumped in with some, stuff you know 1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:09.920 What i'm, saying and so like, eventually Like eric was really, 1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:12.200 cool like he called me or he texted. Me you, 1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:13.840 know it was like he got he found my. Number 1:22:14.120 --> 1:22:16.479 he like asked like people and he texted, me and 1:22:16.520 --> 1:22:18.400 he was very respectful and he was, like, man you, 1:22:18.400 --> 1:22:20.479 Know i'm a clown this and, that AND i was very. 1:22:20.520 --> 1:22:23.840 HONEST i was LIKE i am to an, extent you. 1:22:23.880 --> 1:22:26.519 KNOW i was, like when to, me when you start 1:22:26.600 --> 1:22:29.120 coming at me in like that public, form LIKE i 1:22:29.160 --> 1:22:31.479 address it in that public. Form AND i was, like 1:22:31.479 --> 1:22:33.640 And i'm me every day all, Day like that's WHO i, 1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:36.840 am you. Know but those are the things like you 1:22:36.960 --> 1:22:39.320 deal with as a, Player like when you talk about 1:22:39.320 --> 1:22:43.480 your former, team it's like whereas talking about The Pittsburgh 1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:46.760 steelers in most of the time for, sure and unbiased 1:22:46.840 --> 1:22:49.840 fashion is great for my, job it's great FOR, espn 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:52.760 it's great for how people see. Me but actually in the, 1:22:52.800 --> 1:22:54.360 building it's an, issue LIKE i get all the time 1:22:54.400 --> 1:22:56.360 for steel. Fans why don't you ever support? Us why 1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:58.639 don't you cheer for? Us, well BECAUSE i don't play 1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:00.560 there no, More like they ain't writing a, check you 1:23:00.600 --> 1:23:02.320 know What i'm, Saying Like i'm loyal to the people 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:03.240 that write the, checks. 1:23:03.560 --> 1:23:04.880 RIGHT i was A steeler WHEN i was A. 1:23:04.880 --> 1:23:07.400 STEELER i was A washington team player WHEN i was 1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:08.720 A WASHINGTON i was A giant WHEN i was A, 1:23:08.760 --> 1:23:13.519 giant you. Know and this, weekend you, KNOW i didn't 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:15.840 cry At. TROY'S i cried on the. PODCAST i didn't 1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:18.880 cry At. TROY'S i would have if he were to, 1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:20.639 cried but he. Didn't he was, strong AND i stayed. 1:23:20.640 --> 1:23:23.439 Strong and somebody asked, me you, know there's, like how 1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:26.679 can you not cry when he's talking about The steeler? 1:23:26.720 --> 1:23:29.120 Way AND i had to be very. HONEST i, said, 1:23:29.160 --> 1:23:30.840 well my weight had to be my. 1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:31.600 WAY i. 1:23:31.640 --> 1:23:34.920 SAID i was just blessed that my way fit with 1:23:35.000 --> 1:23:37.960 The steelers for so. Long you know What i'm, Saying 1:23:38.000 --> 1:23:40.680 LIKE i wasn't. Drafted you, KNOW i was told By 1:23:40.720 --> 1:23:43.040 Tom coughlin after year or two he didn't THINK i 1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:44.760 could play in that, league that the arena that they 1:23:44.800 --> 1:23:47.439 had arena football that they had football In, canada that 1:23:47.479 --> 1:23:49.680 special teams was WHAT i had to work. On then 1:23:49.680 --> 1:23:52.679 in week Two i'm in the next the same, Year 1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:55.960 i'm facing Up Tiki barber in the second half of a, 1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:56.360 game you. 1:23:56.400 --> 1:23:56.600 Know WHAT i. 1:23:56.600 --> 1:24:03.080 Mean and so to, me it's, like, though Why i'm loyal. 1:24:02.840 --> 1:24:03.880 To people not? 1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:07.200 Places you know What i'm? Saying DO i Love? Pittsburgh? 1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:09.960 Like was it great to be A? Steeler DID i Retire? 1:24:10.080 --> 1:24:13.160 Steeler were the best eight years of my football career 1:24:13.840 --> 1:24:16.880 being A? Steeler where the lifelong RELATIONSHIPS i have being A? 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:22.880 Steeler absolutely? Right but when my people are gone from that, 1:24:23.040 --> 1:24:25.759 PLACE i don't owe that building. 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:28.160 Anything BUT i owe that building is the same THING 1:24:28.200 --> 1:24:28.760 i owe all. 1:24:28.640 --> 1:24:31.559 The other thirty thirty one buildings is to assess them 1:24:31.600 --> 1:24:34.160 fairly based on what they do as it pertains to. 1:24:34.240 --> 1:24:35.720 Football AND i dealt with that With. 1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:38.679 ANTONIO i deal with that with rankings like that that's 1:24:38.760 --> 1:24:42.680 just what it. Is and oh, yeah and you know 1:24:42.760 --> 1:24:45.880 and and so man, like that's what, like that's the 1:24:45.960 --> 1:24:49.200 thing about the. Job but that's the, thing, like that's 1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:52.559 the thing about. Life Man, Like when people don't get 1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:57.439 that the reason a lot of this is addressed or 1:24:57.479 --> 1:25:00.439 people say things is because like WHEN I i DO 1:25:00.560 --> 1:25:02.800 tv now in the way THAT i do, it like 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:05.080 that's really, me you know What i'm, Saying Like i'm 1:25:05.080 --> 1:25:07.519 not a characterture of. Myself LIKE i don't go ON 1:25:07.600 --> 1:25:10.280 tv and act Like i'm not on this bus like 1:25:10.439 --> 1:25:13.280 acting like this really is. Me and so the way 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:17.240 that people perceive this is the way that people perceive. 1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:21.600 Me and in a lot of, ways like that authenticity 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:24.800 is what's made me successful. 1:25:24.840 --> 1:25:26.760 Now but it's also the. 1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:33.000 Thing that makes you vulnerable to critiques because IF i 1:25:33.040 --> 1:25:36.280 Know i'm, lying you can't hurt my, feelings you know 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:37.800 What i'm, Saying like IF i, know like IF i 1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:40.679 go on the, show IF i go on a, show 1:25:40.720 --> 1:25:44.519 bro to say something THAT i don't, believe WHICH i 1:25:44.640 --> 1:25:46.679 have sometimes you, know like you go on first take 1:25:46.840 --> 1:25:48.640 and you get the little sheet and they'll be Like 1:25:49.280 --> 1:25:50.160 max is gonna say? 1:25:50.200 --> 1:25:51.120 This this Is max. 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:52.800 Answer they don't tell you like what they're gonna, say 1:25:52.800 --> 1:25:55.679 but they'll be like no For, max yes for seing 1:25:56.000 --> 1:25:58.240 side all that right and the, like and they'll do, 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:00.840 that and LIKE i may like if If i'm on 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:03.160 If i'm in a situation to Where i'm not attached 1:26:03.160 --> 1:26:07.559 to an. Answer i'll just answered differently and understand Why 1:26:07.600 --> 1:26:10.360 i'm answering that, way have great reasoning for answering that, 1:26:10.400 --> 1:26:12.920 way but not really be attached to it Because i'm, like, 1:26:13.080 --> 1:26:14.560 WELL i could have answered that question in four or 1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:17.080 five different. WAYS i just chose the one way that 1:26:17.120 --> 1:26:19.559 was different from those two because it would have been born. 1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:20.840 As hell for me to be Like, Max SO i. 1:26:20.880 --> 1:26:24.240 Agree now there's some Things i'm so tied to as an, 1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:26.160 answer and that is so much a part of. ME 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:28.880 i can't do, That like are you just gonna have 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:32.000 to have a born ass, show? Right or like even 1:26:32.040 --> 1:26:34.639 like during The kaepernick stuff WHEN i was still WHEN 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:37.360 i was, working there were so many production meetings where 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:39.040 they would, say are you going to say that ON? 1:26:39.080 --> 1:26:42.120 Tv AND i used to be, like hell, yeah and 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:44.280 they'd be, like we're not going to ask. You AND 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:48.320 i got it right because it was not that just 1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:51.960 that that didn't just save the, network that saved, me 1:26:53.000 --> 1:26:54.800 you know What i'm. Saying like when WHEN i wore 1:26:54.800 --> 1:26:57.240 A kaepernick jersey On mike And mike the week After 1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:00.960 greeney Wore Trevor simme and, jersey AND i got a 1:27:01.000 --> 1:27:04.200 call that said you can't do. 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Like i'm sure a lot of people probably ask, 1:29:45.360 --> 1:29:45.720 you BUT. 1:29:45.720 --> 1:29:48.040 I just want to know you tell you earlier when you, said, 1:29:48.520 --> 1:29:50.840 Uh max is gonna Say max is gonna play into 1:29:50.880 --> 1:29:54.040 this one the bill like you you essentially like they 1:29:54.080 --> 1:29:56.360 see that they're building like characters kind of like MAYBE 1:29:56.360 --> 1:29:58.720 ww in a way like they Know skip. 1:29:58.400 --> 1:29:58.760 Could be the. 1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:01.000 Villain skip kind of he knows a role he's. In 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:03.360 BUT i want to know what's this man? Like because 1:30:03.439 --> 1:30:04.840 at times he's a most hated. 1:30:04.560 --> 1:30:08.439 Man In, america So i'm probably about the. BEHAVIOR i 1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:09.559 really really Like Skip. 1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:13.000 BALIS i felt, LIKE i feel like that's, consensus because 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:13.720 why else would he. 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:17.840 Be, YEAH i LIKE i like him just because too, like, 1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:23.000 uh he's he's he's more, quiet he's, quieter more soft, spoken, 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:27.800 away but a true wealth of knowledge. Though and he 1:30:27.920 --> 1:30:31.640 was one of those people that because it's such a competitive, 1:30:31.640 --> 1:30:34.840 business you, know, RIGHT i feel LIKE i feel like 1:30:34.880 --> 1:30:38.320 everybody feels like the ten year vet who plays the 1:30:38.360 --> 1:30:41.240 position the first rounder just got drafted, in you. 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:42.760 KNOW i feel like a lot of people feel, Like, 1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:43.040 MAN i. 1:30:43.040 --> 1:30:46.080 CAN'T i can't really give you these, things or tell 1:30:46.120 --> 1:30:48.640 you these, things or give you these flowers in front of, 1:30:48.680 --> 1:30:51.840 people because that may infringe upon WHAT i. HAVE i 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:54.720 think he was so secure and what he had built 1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:57.760 that he was he was always willing, to like have those, 1:30:57.800 --> 1:31:01.920 conversations always willing, to you, know help you out and 1:31:02.000 --> 1:31:05.000 help you understand parts of the, business bring you in 1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:08.000 to the. Show Stephen a has gotten a lot like 1:31:08.080 --> 1:31:14.200 that that. Too max from day one has been one 1:31:14.200 --> 1:31:20.160 of my favorite. People AND i think because he's kind 1:31:20.160 --> 1:31:22.479 of Like max is exactly like he is ON. Tv 1:31:23.160 --> 1:31:26.040 skip was harder, though, right because you had this picture 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:29.000 of Who skip. Was but you also have to remember 1:31:29.040 --> 1:31:31.280 the first thing he ever said to me or about 1:31:31.360 --> 1:31:35.240 me really other than, Hello, skip WAS i just want 1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:38.200 everybody to know of every, athlete of every entertainer that's 1:31:38.200 --> 1:31:41.280 ever can't come in, Here Ryan clark's the most, prepared you. 1:31:41.320 --> 1:31:43.400 Know so we started on such a good. Note and 1:31:43.439 --> 1:31:45.080 he didn't ever talk on you before you got that 1:31:45.160 --> 1:31:45.479 like as a. 1:31:45.520 --> 1:31:49.760 Player oh you, know he's like a Big cowboys, Guy like. 1:31:49.040 --> 1:31:51.920 Yeah, well you, know you, know we had the whole 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:54.840 thing with Steven a the. Athletes remember they had the 1:31:54.880 --> 1:31:59.680 athletes versus commentator thing When Richard sherman Told skip he 1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:02.479 was better at life then yeah. Yeah and so like 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:06.559 during that, TIME i went on one day and Stephen 1:32:06.600 --> 1:32:09.200 a wasn't, on and like the whole thing came, up 1:32:09.240 --> 1:32:12.519 and like STEVEN a was talking about like how athletes 1:32:12.560 --> 1:32:16.280 won his job and they don't have degrees and carrying 1:32:16.320 --> 1:32:20.240 on or, whatever and you, Know i'm a manship mass 1:32:20.240 --> 1:32:24.519 communications Graduate Louisiana State, university you, know and so like 1:32:24.600 --> 1:32:27.600 it was my, major you, Know and SO i was 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:31.040 on the show AND i was, LIKE, WHOA i can't 1:32:31.040 --> 1:32:34.080 do your, job AND i do have a, degree and 1:32:34.400 --> 1:32:39.519 my hairline ain't push, back you, know and so it's 1:32:39.520 --> 1:32:41.960 not still. Not and so WHEN i WHEN i said, 1:32:42.000 --> 1:32:44.640 that you, know he. Wasn't Steven a wasn't there that, 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:47.280 day And skip was kind of like, quiet like he. 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:48.400 Let me say, it ain't say. 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:51.400 Nothing and So bro like the next day Like skip 1:32:51.479 --> 1:32:53.639 was egg and Stephen a on And steven they went, 1:32:53.880 --> 1:32:56.559 hard you, know Like i'll come to the locker room 1:32:56.560 --> 1:32:58.640 And i'll say it in the. 1:32:58.680 --> 1:33:00.760 Stutic vocabulary To steve and he just starts throwing. 1:33:00.800 --> 1:33:03.800 Words, Right so Now i'm, confused yeah, Too and so 1:33:03.840 --> 1:33:05.880 he says all this at a Time, no we were 1:33:05.920 --> 1:33:07.960 like twelve or four like throughout the last four. Years 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:10.200 So i'm, like that's, Stupid like we're just saying about 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:12.400 my team not being, Good like that's. Dumb and so 1:33:12.520 --> 1:33:14.960 he's going through all this, stuff which is, fine right 1:33:15.000 --> 1:33:16.560 because he had to shoot. BACK i wasn't. THERE i 1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:18.519 kept felt some kind of way, though BECAUSE i was, Like, 1:33:18.560 --> 1:33:21.200 skip you could have said something yesterday or whatever DAY 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:23.120 i was. On all of a, sudden Stephen a's back 1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:27.280 And mum's the word and all that. Stuff and at the, 1:33:27.479 --> 1:33:32.679 End Bro Stephen ages and as for anything, Else Ryan 1:33:32.720 --> 1:33:36.760 clark knows what he can kiss and like all the 1:33:36.760 --> 1:33:39.040 rest of. IT i was like laughing because it was 1:33:39.080 --> 1:33:41.960 like all, football you. Know and then when he said, 1:33:42.000 --> 1:33:45.360 THAT i was, like, Oh STEPHEN. A smith wants to fight? 1:33:45.439 --> 1:33:48.280 Me like that was like immediately my, thought you. Know 1:33:48.400 --> 1:33:51.640 and So Gaileen. GORDON i Think galen's working with like 1:33:51.680 --> 1:33:54.760 ABC's like super big time. Now at the, time he 1:33:54.880 --> 1:33:56.720 was producing the show and him And steve and they 1:33:56.760 --> 1:33:59.720 are like jam. Tight BUT i talked To gaillen BECAUSE 1:33:59.720 --> 1:34:01.280 i built on the show or. Whatever AND i called 1:34:01.360 --> 1:34:03.360 him and he was having like an event In New 1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:05.040 orleans and at the, TIME i you, KNOW i lived 1:34:05.040 --> 1:34:06.960 In Van ruges in the off, season AND i was, like, 1:34:07.000 --> 1:34:09.519 bro you gonna have to cancel your. Event he's, like, 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:12.320 Well i'm a whip him straight. UP i was like 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:14.400 all the other stuff was. COOL i was, like but, 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:17.040 man gonna tell me kiss his? ASS i was like 1:34:17.240 --> 1:34:18.880 On NATIONAL. TV i was, like him means he wants 1:34:18.880 --> 1:34:21.040 to fight, me you. Know and it was AND i. 1:34:21.080 --> 1:34:23.040 CALLED i got calls like hey, man you got to pick. 1:34:23.080 --> 1:34:25.400 One you either got to uninvite me or you got 1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:30.000 to cancel. It because either, way Like i'm. Fighting and 1:34:30.680 --> 1:34:33.519 it was my first conversation with Stephen. A he called 1:34:33.520 --> 1:34:37.040 me that day and first, thing AND i, LIKE i 1:34:37.080 --> 1:34:39.000 would respect him forever for. THIS i wish he did 1:34:39.040 --> 1:34:40.840 it ON tv because you, know you kind of shine 1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:42.519 on me ON. Tv you can do it ON. Tv 1:34:42.600 --> 1:34:43.720 but it was, cool And. 1:34:43.880 --> 1:34:45.280 I'm sure he wre one day and talking about how 1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:45.920 well he knows, you. 1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:49.720 And he was, like but he was, like, uh, FIRST 1:34:49.760 --> 1:34:51.960 i want to. Apologize you. Know he's, like HOW I 1:34:52.520 --> 1:34:54.920 he's like WHAT i said was like was. Wrong he's, 1:34:54.920 --> 1:34:56.720 like not the STUFF i said before. That he's, like 1:34:56.720 --> 1:34:59.920 BUT i get why why you are upset about. That 1:35:00.160 --> 1:35:02.760 AND i was actually In Southside. PITTSBURGH i was going to. 1:35:02.800 --> 1:35:04.920 EAT i was going to a place called The Commas 1:35:04.920 --> 1:35:07.120 He'll Botchy, spot AND i stood outside of the spot 1:35:07.160 --> 1:35:09.439 for like an hour and we just talked and he 1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:12.000 just and like he's become one of my, best my greatest. 1:35:12.040 --> 1:35:15.840 Mentors like there but even with, that like he don't 1:35:15.840 --> 1:35:18.000 play with, me you know What i'm. Saying it's like 1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:22.120 sometimes like you gotta let people know that you are 1:35:22.200 --> 1:35:25.000 little throwed. Off if you are a little throwed, off 1:35:25.439 --> 1:35:29.120 because it helps. Them it helps you help them not 1:35:29.280 --> 1:35:31.320 do anything that's gonna get them in a fight with. 1:35:31.400 --> 1:35:32.960 You AND i don't know if you follow, that but 1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:36.439 trying to what it means, is it's, like it's like, this, 1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:40.160 right IF i don't want to Fight Will, compton, right 1:35:40.360 --> 1:35:42.439 BUT i know that there are things that will Trigger 1:35:42.479 --> 1:35:43.400 Will compton to fight. 1:35:43.479 --> 1:35:44.240 Me you know What i'm gonna. 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:45.600 Do i'm gonna make SURE i don't do none of 1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:48.960 those things right BECAUSE i know that he'll click out 1:35:49.000 --> 1:35:50.799 and we have an issue now IF. 1:35:50.640 --> 1:35:52.639 I, like if you look at him the wrong, way, 1:35:52.880 --> 1:35:54.719 right ANYTIME i see that with it like a, Teammate 1:35:54.720 --> 1:35:56.519 i'm just, like, hey, man like what kind of life 1:35:56.520 --> 1:35:56.760 have you? 1:35:56.840 --> 1:35:59.720 LIVED i actually felt that, Way LIKE i went to 1:35:59.720 --> 1:36:02.120 a bro like that's who's no longer exists In New 1:36:02.160 --> 1:36:05.000 orleans's so, yeah like he played AND i played d 1:36:05.080 --> 1:36:07.040 in and he was one hundred and forty pounds at high. School, 1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:09.280 yeah and he ran four two though a pro. Day 1:36:09.320 --> 1:36:11.360 so that's. Crazy they played d in the high school 1:36:11.520 --> 1:36:13.760 and so, man you, know so like that's been like 1:36:13.800 --> 1:36:16.040 that's been a crazy thing ABOUT tv man is like 1:36:16.200 --> 1:36:19.599 understanding that some of these, guys some of these guys 1:36:19.600 --> 1:36:22.720 who are just really good at their jobs aren't necessarily 1:36:22.760 --> 1:36:25.840 those same. People like if you Watch skip baillis, now 1:36:26.280 --> 1:36:28.840 WHAT i think he's done a great job of is 1:36:29.680 --> 1:36:34.400 he understands That Shannon sharp has a certain following that 1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:36.920 he brings to the show that's, good a certain a certain, 1:36:37.000 --> 1:36:42.679 charisma a certain a certain. Factor, Right, Shannon Shannon sharp 1:36:42.760 --> 1:36:46.760 is a, Dunker, Right So Shannon sharp Needs Chris, paul, 1:36:47.479 --> 1:36:51.160 Right like Like DeAndre, jordan he didn't Need Blake, griffin 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:52.639 but he Needed Chris. 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:53.880 Paul and so WHAT. 1:36:53.880 --> 1:36:57.400 I, think WHAT i Think skip has done an amazing 1:36:57.520 --> 1:37:01.799 job of is Whether shannon believes it In shannon Loves? Lebron, 1:37:02.439 --> 1:37:05.160 Right skip's always felt a certain way about Lebronh, yeah 1:37:05.200 --> 1:37:07.719 but but but if you watch if you Watch, skip, 1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:11.240 now every other person in the world at some point 1:37:11.479 --> 1:37:13.400 is the best player in the, world Never. 1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:17.280 Lebron yeah, Right but but what does it do For? 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:22.120 Shannon it Allows shannon to wear goattheads and jerseys and 1:37:22.160 --> 1:37:24.800 show that he still swollen even in his. Fifties right 1:37:25.240 --> 1:37:28.120 and so and so and so In truth And, Truth 1:37:29.400 --> 1:37:35.559 skip has kept himself relevant by saying things even we 1:37:35.680 --> 1:37:38.680 don't think he believes in a way that makes us 1:37:38.720 --> 1:37:39.960 think he might believe. 1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:42.720 It and now that's the whole. Thing it's like a. 1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:45.280 Mystery it's, like how does this douse? You, like ain't 1:37:45.280 --> 1:37:47.519 no way you? Like, bro he won the fourth, one 1:37:47.600 --> 1:37:49.240 like it's the tenth. One he come, on, bro like 1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:51.760 especially when he dies on the hill for The. Cowboys 1:37:51.760 --> 1:37:53.720 but you can't at some point see some kind of 1:37:53.760 --> 1:37:56.160 light With Lebron, james, right and and and so and, 1:37:56.200 --> 1:37:59.400 SO i think, like because he has done that and 1:37:59.439 --> 1:38:04.040 he's stuck with, that it's now created this persona or 1:38:04.080 --> 1:38:07.160 this aura that you love to. Hate and so in, 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:12.320 truth guys Like, skip guys Like Steven ay like they're 1:38:12.360 --> 1:38:19.200 really they're really media media geniuses in that they've mastered their, 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:22.840 craft which is which is the job THAT i have 1:38:22.960 --> 1:38:24.479 not mastered and probably will. 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:28.280 Not but you, know that's just a, thing you know 1:38:28.320 --> 1:38:30.480 WHAT i? Mean BUT i, think Man, tuto. 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:35.479 You know, one whenever The Mount rushmore swings back, AROUND i. 1:38:35.400 --> 1:38:38.439 Just want to BE i want to Be Mount. Busmore i'm, 1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:39.000 Sorry Mount. 1:38:39.040 --> 1:38:41.800 BUSMORE i want to be one of the twenty seven 1:38:41.840 --> 1:38:43.960 people you, mentioned even if not one of the, four 1:38:44.640 --> 1:38:45.200 not one of. 1:38:45.120 --> 1:38:47.000 The four that makes it because we all know how 1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:48.040 you do? 1:38:48.160 --> 1:38:50.320 That, YEAH i was just LIKE i. WAS i forget 1:38:50.360 --> 1:38:51.560 WHO i was talking to the other. Day but it's, like, 1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:53.240 hey It's Mount. BUSMORE i can have as many people 1:38:53.240 --> 1:38:55.280 AS i went on the On Mount busmore as. 1:38:55.280 --> 1:38:58.160 Possible, yeah because it's not Actually Mount rushmore is actually 1:38:58.200 --> 1:39:01.639 not presidents and so and and what was great about 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:04.519 it IS i could tell you're you're you're. 1:39:04.640 --> 1:39:05.960 Good guy came out in. 1:39:06.080 --> 1:39:09.080 You, OH i, know, dude because it's SOMETHING i. Batter 1:39:09.120 --> 1:39:10.680 what are you talking? About like mentioning pretty much? 1:39:10.680 --> 1:39:19.240 Everybody, yeah, yeah and you don't want to fucking SO 1:39:19.360 --> 1:39:21.080 i was like it was WHEN i was on The 1:39:21.080 --> 1:39:23.400 Earnest pod and he's, like you did jaelly roll? 1:39:23.439 --> 1:39:25.360 Wrong And i'm, thinking, YEAH i did jelly roll. WRONG 1:39:25.400 --> 1:39:25.800 i fucked. 1:39:25.840 --> 1:39:29.000 Up but the thing, is, though who are like truly 1:39:29.040 --> 1:39:29.800 give me the best for? 1:39:29.960 --> 1:39:31.760 IT i want? Them there we. Go now you want it, now, 1:39:31.840 --> 1:39:32.720 now now you want it for. 1:39:32.840 --> 1:39:35.920 Right you you've, had you've, broke you've had time like 1:39:35.960 --> 1:39:38.000 you've had you've had. Time And i'm sitting right here, 1:39:38.040 --> 1:39:39.800 though so we're going to see if like the good 1:39:39.960 --> 1:39:41.200 do you have to rewatch it to? 1:39:41.320 --> 1:39:43.559 KNOW i THINK i think WHAT i can make. 1:39:43.600 --> 1:39:46.200 IT i think what's tough is not, thinking, oh, oh 1:39:46.320 --> 1:39:48.320 so now you want me to include if you would 1:39:48.360 --> 1:39:51.480 be on, it. 1:39:50.120 --> 1:39:51.439 But, WELL i made. 1:39:51.479 --> 1:39:54.040 One IF i make IF i make, one so so 1:39:54.040 --> 1:39:57.920 so the next time, one and there's to put it. 1:39:57.800 --> 1:39:59.320 To be open about. 1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:02.240 It it's tough because there's different criterias that run in my. 1:40:02.280 --> 1:40:04.519 Brain it's like with, you like when you were being 1:40:04.600 --> 1:40:06.840 wanting to be super smart and wanting to come off 1:40:06.840 --> 1:40:09.080 as smart AND i forget who, said, hey, YO i 1:40:09.120 --> 1:40:11.880 want people to see your. Personality like there's always a 1:40:11.920 --> 1:40:14.280 Line i'm not necessarily a battle, with But i'm thinking 1:40:14.320 --> 1:40:15.720 about it Because i'm, Like, okay DO i want to 1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:16.400 be the funny guy right? 1:40:16.400 --> 1:40:17.600 Now or DO i want to be the serious be 1:40:17.640 --> 1:40:18.160 a fucking wolf. 1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:20.240 Guy and so When i'm thinking of, humor there's a 1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:23.120 different criteria that goes into like That human podcast Because 1:40:23.120 --> 1:40:25.439 taylor is an, Entertainer LIKE i love doing podswards me 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:27.760 and him and we're laughing our heads, off and it's, 1:40:27.800 --> 1:40:29.640 like is that the mount bust more Than i'm trying to? 1:40:29.640 --> 1:40:30.800 Create or AM i trying to? Create? 1:40:30.840 --> 1:40:32.680 Like, yo what HAVE i gotten out of or how 1:40:32.720 --> 1:40:34.519 HAVE i been impacted by sitting here and having a. 1:40:34.560 --> 1:40:37.960 Conversation You're you're definitely in the. Conversation look at me 1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:41.479 already creating that insurance. Policy but but, real like the 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:43.840 Way blash is said always, online like you sit here 1:40:43.880 --> 1:40:44.280 and you have these. 1:40:44.280 --> 1:40:46.439 CONVERSATIONS i know As i'm listening to. 1:40:46.520 --> 1:40:49.880 You the Less i've spoken on a, podcast the More i'm, 1:40:49.920 --> 1:40:52.480 LIKE i really fuck with the podcast Because. 1:40:52.400 --> 1:40:53.840 I'm, learning And i'm like diving. 1:40:53.880 --> 1:40:55.400 In like when you brought up being cut in your, 1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:57.280 TWO i don't know that about you Because i'm so 1:40:57.360 --> 1:41:00.720 fascinated with people's. Stories so it's like it's DILEMMA i 1:41:00.720 --> 1:41:03.680 gotta live in Because i'm, LIKE i love. STORIES i 1:41:03.720 --> 1:41:05.840 love WHEN i get stuffing Like Darren waller being on 1:41:05.880 --> 1:41:08.920 The pot. Amazing he's somebody who's one percent on, there 1:41:09.560 --> 1:41:12.080 Like David. Questenberg he's somebody as far as numbers and 1:41:12.120 --> 1:41:14.920 all that hasn't been like. That it doesn't make the top. 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:17.720 Ten but as somebody who battled through cancer was on The, 1:41:17.760 --> 1:41:20.839 texans rang the. Bell now he's playing on The titans 1:41:20.880 --> 1:41:22.800 like he's, overcame such, as ain't the Why i'm sitting? 1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:25.160 There i'm, like, SHIT i did not even know that 1:41:25.200 --> 1:41:26.880 about this, Dude LIKE i just know he caught a 1:41:26.880 --> 1:41:28.800 touchdown pass the year before coming off practice squad and 1:41:28.880 --> 1:41:31.280 spiked the. Football like and then there's Stuff i'm learning 1:41:31.280 --> 1:41:33.479 about with. You it's like it just makes it so damn. 1:41:33.520 --> 1:41:36.479 Hard and then LIKE i, like no matter What darren 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:38.080 Waller dale And Hard. 1:41:37.960 --> 1:41:40.080 Junior being on the, bus they're no brainers for me. 1:41:40.360 --> 1:41:43.360 BECAUSE i had some money when You so when you 1:41:43.360 --> 1:41:45.920 pick a guy right or or, there we, go calm me, 1:41:45.960 --> 1:41:47.680 down calm me. Down no, no, no no, no because LIKE 1:41:47.680 --> 1:41:49.680 i really, LIKE i really Want i'm interested in this 1:41:49.760 --> 1:41:52.760 BECAUSE i think you have more like you guys have 1:41:52.880 --> 1:41:56.679 more of a vision for a, podcast like in On face, 1:41:56.760 --> 1:42:01.519 First i'm, All i'm all six of these. People, YEAH 1:42:01.600 --> 1:42:03.800 i see What i'm. Saying, yeah What i'm, saying so and, 1:42:03.840 --> 1:42:06.800 so Like i'm learning from you. Now so when you 1:42:06.880 --> 1:42:10.559 go into a podcast and you have a, guest do 1:42:10.600 --> 1:42:13.800 you know if you want, funny IF i want to 1:42:13.880 --> 1:42:17.000 be a, dog IF i want to learn, something or 1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:20.200 are you diving into their story to, See, okay this 1:42:20.280 --> 1:42:23.080 is What i'm. Expecting and when you start getting, it 1:42:23.120 --> 1:42:25.080 do you like or do you start getting it and 1:42:25.120 --> 1:42:27.559 feel like this is where this one is, Going i'm 1:42:27.560 --> 1:42:30.200 gonna keep it going this way because the other piece 1:42:30.240 --> 1:42:32.240 of it is it's like they don't say much, right 1:42:32.280 --> 1:42:34.519 so the stuff that they could be feeling like they 1:42:34.600 --> 1:42:37.240 might be, Like, ooh ask this question OR i want 1:42:37.240 --> 1:42:39.800 to hear, this but you have to do. That so 1:42:39.960 --> 1:42:41.960 do you have a mindset of this is WHAT i 1:42:41.960 --> 1:42:44.479 want this podcast to be or do you just get 1:42:44.520 --> 1:42:46.720 a guy start filling them out and then let them 1:42:46.800 --> 1:42:48.400 kind of roll with it and you figure out how 1:42:48.439 --> 1:42:48.680 to work. 1:42:48.720 --> 1:42:49.360 IT i think it. 1:42:49.400 --> 1:42:51.760 Depends it's a mix, because like so with, YOU i 1:42:51.840 --> 1:42:54.360 know the relationship me and you, HAVE i know what 1:42:54.400 --> 1:42:56.559 how you refer to miss tier ones the entire Episode 1:42:56.840 --> 1:42:59.040 taylor messaging Like taylor doesn't know how close we. 1:42:59.080 --> 1:43:01.720 Are LIKE i knew what kind of rapport that we, 1:43:01.760 --> 1:43:02.080 Have SO. 1:43:02.040 --> 1:43:03.240 I knew when it was gonna be me and you 1:43:03.320 --> 1:43:05.360 one on one sitting, DOWN i knew we'd get a, 1:43:05.360 --> 1:43:07.800 good juicy pod like this with depth and everything. Else 1:43:07.960 --> 1:43:09.680 If taylor's sitting on the, Bus i'm sure we get 1:43:09.680 --> 1:43:11.120 in there a lot of that, stuff But i'm sure 1:43:11.120 --> 1:43:13.200 a lot of time gets taken up talking about The 1:43:13.240 --> 1:43:15.959 Derrick henry, thing and you're having more. Fun so sometimes 1:43:16.280 --> 1:43:19.080 sometimes it depends If taylor's next to. Me but but 1:43:19.200 --> 1:43:21.960 credit To taylor, Too like there's times WHERE i get 1:43:21.960 --> 1:43:23.840 surprised BECAUSE i might THINK i want to go a 1:43:23.880 --> 1:43:26.000 little bit more in depth with this person then have 1:43:26.120 --> 1:43:28.680 so much more light and have fun Like, dale Like 1:43:28.760 --> 1:43:30.720 taylor AND i were shut up the whole, Time and 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:33.160 sometimes we'll both we might both sit here and think 1:43:33.160 --> 1:43:35.160 how do we want Because taylor again is a lot 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:38.200 more of an entertainment, factor, like and sometimes we might 1:43:38.240 --> 1:43:40.760 have a guest And alex does all the background search 1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:42.640 or the guys might come, in LIKE jp wanted me 1:43:42.680 --> 1:43:45.240 to ask you ABOUT dc because he's a big FIGHTER 1:43:45.280 --> 1:43:47.679 Nerd right, Now i'm not taking it as a shot 1:43:47.720 --> 1:43:48.400 like that's you know. 1:43:48.560 --> 1:43:50.759 You are THOUGH i get. It, Yeah but like Sometimes 1:43:50.880 --> 1:43:52.000 alex will have everything right. 1:43:52.000 --> 1:43:53.560 Now i'll be, hey did you dive in on the 1:43:53.560 --> 1:43:56.040 story BECAUSE i ain't give much time to like, backlog 1:43:56.160 --> 1:43:58.280 but before, this LIKE i know you have so much 1:43:58.280 --> 1:44:00.360 of a story That i'm in the sauna trying to 1:44:00.360 --> 1:44:03.400 grab all my. Notes he already had an entire thing on. 1:44:03.439 --> 1:44:07.920 You BUT i might come in and having like just being, like, 1:44:07.960 --> 1:44:10.320 okay well we wants this so even THOUGH i worked 1:44:10.320 --> 1:44:12.400 at stately hard on trying to find stuff On Ryan. 1:44:12.400 --> 1:44:14.600 CLARK i Know will has all this stuff that he 1:44:14.640 --> 1:44:18.720 wants to, Look, yes but he had everything mapped out for. 1:44:18.760 --> 1:44:20.040 You but so sometimes it just. 1:44:20.080 --> 1:44:22.680 Depends LIKE i would, say who's somebody that's came on 1:44:22.720 --> 1:44:24.200 THAT i probably sat with one on one THAT i 1:44:24.240 --> 1:44:29.519 didn't know much, About Nate, bargatzi a, Comedian and so 1:44:29.560 --> 1:44:30.840 when it's just me and him one on one And 1:44:30.880 --> 1:44:33.320 taylor wasn't gonna make that, One i'm, like, shit Like 1:44:33.760 --> 1:44:36.479 i'm gonna have to kind of wing this one on 1:44:36.520 --> 1:44:39.439 my own a little. Bit, fortunately Like alex always has 1:44:39.520 --> 1:44:42.040 criteria to go by WHERE i can dive. In you 1:44:42.080 --> 1:44:44.720 ask a, question they get to, talking you might mirror 1:44:44.760 --> 1:44:46.519 the last few words that they're saying to get them 1:44:46.520 --> 1:44:46.880 to talk a. 1:44:46.840 --> 1:44:48.439 Little, more, like, YEAH i got. 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:50.200 That a lot of it, too is like we we 1:44:50.360 --> 1:44:53.360 liked the open format kind of lesser structured as far 1:44:53.360 --> 1:44:55.559 as like let's stick with open, conversations let's get, there 1:44:55.560 --> 1:44:57.439 and like the boys are so good in their own, 1:44:57.520 --> 1:45:00.320 worlds like he was talking, About taylor's an. Entertainer will 1:45:00.360 --> 1:45:02.240 loves to get kind of in depth and get, More, 1:45:02.880 --> 1:45:05.960 UH i don't, know more like insightful to, conversations and 1:45:06.000 --> 1:45:07.599 so they're chemistry back and forth. 1:45:07.640 --> 1:45:08.879 Works so it really. 1:45:08.680 --> 1:45:10.360 Like sometimes we'll walk on here and not really know 1:45:10.439 --> 1:45:13.679 exactly the direction we're gonna, go which is totally opposite 1:45:13.680 --> 1:45:16.040 of what you'll see IN tv on your side of things, obviously, 1:45:16.160 --> 1:45:18.320 Right but it's, worked and so we just kind of 1:45:18.360 --> 1:45:19.080 try to double down. 1:45:19.200 --> 1:45:22.760 THAT i think that's the the beauty of The and 1:45:22.840 --> 1:45:23.639 mainly don't. 1:45:23.400 --> 1:45:25.519 They only won't they only won't talk if we have 1:45:25.640 --> 1:45:28.840 like a conversation like. This, usually Like i'll tell, them 1:45:28.840 --> 1:45:30.080 like If i'm doing a pot of my own or 1:45:30.080 --> 1:45:32.400 we have somebody on here And i'm, like, hey, well 1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:33.960 like we, want LIKE i want you guys to be 1:45:33.960 --> 1:45:36.680 a soundboard just because LIKE i can't sit here and 1:45:36.760 --> 1:45:39.160 just look at a camera and be like these dudes 1:45:39.160 --> 1:45:40.960 who just do solo pods and just look at the, 1:45:40.960 --> 1:45:41.840 camera go topic to. 1:45:41.840 --> 1:45:44.920 Topic hope people are maybe, laughing entertaining them like a tailor. 1:45:45.000 --> 1:45:48.040 Can but, yeah like that's the that's the thing about 1:45:48.360 --> 1:45:51.120 doing face face, first WHEN i do it in the 1:45:51.760 --> 1:45:56.040 in the, studio it's you, truly you truly don't know 1:45:56.360 --> 1:45:59.120 how things are, Received like what's good is there's two 1:45:59.160 --> 1:46:01.599 people you have no. Clue, yeah like there's two people 1:46:01.600 --> 1:46:03.799 that work. There so like sometimes you're hear in the, background, 1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:06.600 ah you know WHAT i mean and stuff like, That you're, Like, 1:46:06.600 --> 1:46:08.439 okay at least that was at least that was. 1:46:08.479 --> 1:46:13.120 Decent but right you're, like, yeah that was. 1:46:13.160 --> 1:46:18.080 Funny but that's the and that's the strange part about 1:46:18.280 --> 1:46:23.759 entertaining and doing things by. Yourself but it's also kind 1:46:23.800 --> 1:46:29.080 of the rewarding part is the, learning you, know and 1:46:29.920 --> 1:46:33.120 you also have to be willing to. FAIL i, think, 1:46:33.360 --> 1:46:37.560 YEAH i think WHEN i look at WHEN i look at, 1:46:37.800 --> 1:46:42.559 football like, football there was no decision making for me 1:46:42.880 --> 1:46:44.640 and whether or NOT i was going to try to 1:46:44.720 --> 1:46:47.240 do something in, football, right, honestly it's like only one 1:46:47.240 --> 1:46:48.640 thing you can try to do is make a team and. 1:46:48.680 --> 1:46:51.599 Play but there was never there was never a question, of, 1:46:51.640 --> 1:46:55.040 Like i'm going to give my all to this because 1:46:55.040 --> 1:46:58.040 that was about that was so much about. Me i've 1:46:58.080 --> 1:46:59.880 loved it SINCE i was four years, old like SINCE 1:46:59.920 --> 1:47:01.760 I i knew it was a. SPORT i loved, it and 1:47:01.800 --> 1:47:03.680 SO i was going to play it as long AS 1:47:03.720 --> 1:47:05.639 i felt LIKE i. Could and then WHEN i COULDN'T 1:47:05.760 --> 1:47:07.720 i was able to leave it alone BECAUSE i was, like, 1:47:07.800 --> 1:47:10.800 Man i'm an undrafted. DUDE i got thirteen. Years, Man 1:47:10.840 --> 1:47:13.000 i've been to Two Super. BOWLS i was, LIKE i 1:47:13.120 --> 1:47:16.599 played way longer THAN i was supposed. TO i got 1:47:16.640 --> 1:47:18.760 every ounce out of this BODY i. COULD i got no. 1:47:18.840 --> 1:47:19.240 More i'm. 1:47:19.280 --> 1:47:21.439 Okay and it's never a day Where i'll watch it 1:47:21.479 --> 1:47:23.720 And i'm, like, MAN i miss it BECAUSE i, don't you, 1:47:23.760 --> 1:47:26.439 KNOW i. DO i do miss this, Right AND i 1:47:26.479 --> 1:47:28.719 get it sometimes through this OR i got it talking 1:47:28.760 --> 1:47:31.719 To troy and talking To ike and you, know With James, 1:47:31.720 --> 1:47:33.240 Now LIKE i STILL i get it WHEN i train 1:47:33.320 --> 1:47:36.479 the boys and we're on facetimes and text messages talking 1:47:36.479 --> 1:47:38.040 about the game and what they need to do with 1:47:38.120 --> 1:47:40.280 some of the stories y'all just laughing at you. 1:47:40.320 --> 1:47:43.400 Know SO i still get. That BUT i don't play, 1:47:43.400 --> 1:47:44.360 football and that's. 1:47:44.400 --> 1:47:50.120 Fine the media side has been different to me because 1:47:50.200 --> 1:47:53.800 LIKE i actually got to, try you, know and and, 1:47:54.320 --> 1:47:59.840 everything everything for me with media is, extrinsic not intrinsic 1:48:00.320 --> 1:48:04.760 in the sense that most things aren't driven by by. 1:48:04.880 --> 1:48:08.720 Me they're driven by what you get from doing, things you, 1:48:08.760 --> 1:48:12.800 know which is like that's frightening to. Me you see 1:48:12.800 --> 1:48:14.960 What i'm, saying because you, know you go out and 1:48:15.000 --> 1:48:18.240 you do face, first and for, me, LIKE i don't 1:48:18.240 --> 1:48:20.439 look at the. NUMBERS i don't care who's watching or who's. 1:48:20.479 --> 1:48:23.360 Listening but you have other people who are involved in 1:48:23.400 --> 1:48:25.360 your life or like you, know like maybe my wife 1:48:25.400 --> 1:48:27.519 like did you check to see who's? Watching And i'm, like, 1:48:27.600 --> 1:48:30.400 NAH i don't want. To but to, her she. Can't 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:35.160 she can't fathom doing something not caring how it's, doing 1:48:35.280 --> 1:48:37.559 not caring how it's being, viewed not caring if you 1:48:37.560 --> 1:48:37.960 can make. 1:48:38.040 --> 1:48:41.360 Money but to, me it's like it just feels, good. 1:48:42.080 --> 1:48:44.720 Right football always felt good to, me whether LIKE i 1:48:44.760 --> 1:48:48.519 got cut or, not or WHETHER i played really well or. 1:48:48.560 --> 1:48:50.880 Not you, know like there were DAYS i didn't play really, 1:48:50.920 --> 1:48:52.360 well BUT i walked out AND i was, like On, 1:48:52.439 --> 1:48:54.920 MONDAY i woke up at, FIVE i did this and 1:48:54.920 --> 1:48:57.200 it lasted all the way till two in the. Morning get, 1:48:57.240 --> 1:48:58.680 treatment and that's WHAT i was supposed to do On. 1:48:58.680 --> 1:49:00.800 TUESDAY i did this On wednesday, day and that was 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:03.600 fulfilling to me because the schedule and the regiment and 1:49:03.640 --> 1:49:06.559 the requirements THAT i put on myself was so much 1:49:06.640 --> 1:49:09.240 higher than the expectations other people put on. ME i 1:49:09.240 --> 1:49:11.400 had to meet THOSE i didn't have to meet other 1:49:11.400 --> 1:49:14.479 people's expectations or do things they. Liked it was about, me, 1:49:15.479 --> 1:49:18.479 Right and so in this it's like if you come on, 1:49:18.560 --> 1:49:22.120 here bro and you're putting your heart into busting with the, 1:49:22.200 --> 1:49:26.599 boys yet it doesn't matter necessarily how you feel about. 1:49:26.600 --> 1:49:30.200 It it's, like does it grow? Right do the executives 1:49:30.240 --> 1:49:33.080 want another year of? It DO i get another? Contract 1:49:33.360 --> 1:49:34.200 DO i get to do? 1:49:34.360 --> 1:49:34.639 More? 1:49:35.240 --> 1:49:41.720 Right and that's a scary that's a scary. Deal whereas it's, 1:49:41.760 --> 1:49:46.200 like this is one of those jobs where whether whether 1:49:46.240 --> 1:49:48.640 you're right or, wrong whether you win or, lose is 1:49:48.680 --> 1:49:51.240 not based on. You that's the dope part of, football. 1:49:51.760 --> 1:49:54.799 RIGHT i work all week AND i have a TRUE 1:49:55.000 --> 1:49:57.439 i have a true understanding of how well as a 1:49:57.479 --> 1:50:00.439 group we did our. Job BECAUSE i could look up 1:50:00.520 --> 1:50:03.240 and look at the score you know What i'm. 1:50:03.240 --> 1:50:04.080 Saying that was. 1:50:04.040 --> 1:50:09.160 Something there was something so like so comforting to, me 1:50:09.280 --> 1:50:11.640 and that it was, like, man you know, what at 1:50:11.680 --> 1:50:13.479 the end of the, Day i'm gonna look up at 1:50:13.479 --> 1:50:15.200 this scoreboard AND i know whether or not we did 1:50:15.200 --> 1:50:17.120 our job well or. Not OR i could go in 1:50:17.160 --> 1:50:19.400 On monday and we're gonna watch this film And i'll 1:50:19.400 --> 1:50:21.160 know whether or NOT i did my job well or. 1:50:21.200 --> 1:50:22.400 Not that's not how this junk. 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:24.280 Works and so when you're talking about doing a pod 1:50:24.360 --> 1:50:27.400 by yourself or watching people who sit like a dude 1:50:27.439 --> 1:50:30.520 WHO i truly admire Is Colin, Coward. 1:50:31.560 --> 1:50:34.040 Oh, yeah, yeah. Exactly that's a great. Example. 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:38.160 Bro dude just sits at a desk and bum bum 1:50:38.400 --> 1:50:43.280 bum bum bum bum bumb like freaking issue to issue, 1:50:43.360 --> 1:50:47.720 right different like different, thoughts and it's all his and 1:50:47.720 --> 1:50:50.640 and WHETHER i disagree with him or agree with him or, 1:50:50.680 --> 1:50:54.240 not they're so well explained and so well thought. Out 1:50:54.400 --> 1:50:56.800 and he does it for two or three hours On, monday. 1:50:56.600 --> 1:50:58.680 And guess, what he come back and do it again On. 1:50:58.680 --> 1:51:01.120 Tuesday and then it's win like that junkst to, me 1:51:01.160 --> 1:51:05.360 it's like this dude is truly giving himself and like 1:51:05.560 --> 1:51:09.680 we're buying it like that's like that's that's a special. 1:51:09.760 --> 1:51:13.760 Deal and SO i, think, man with with, this this 1:51:13.840 --> 1:51:19.080 is truly like doing the, podcast doing the stuff with THE, 1:51:19.160 --> 1:51:23.360 Dc LIKE i can be, honest it's been, fun BUT 1:51:23.560 --> 1:51:26.960 i know that all of these things had to happen 1:51:26.960 --> 1:51:28.679 at the right time for, Me LIKE i wasn't ready 1:51:28.720 --> 1:51:30.960 for this in twenty and. Sixteen you know What i'm. 1:51:30.960 --> 1:51:33.200 SAYING i wasn't ready for this in twenty and, Seventeen 1:51:33.280 --> 1:51:35.720 like twenty and sixteen, SEVENTEEN i was trying to find 1:51:35.720 --> 1:51:38.920 my voice at my real, job and to where now 1:51:38.920 --> 1:51:41.439 it's LIKE i feel free enough to where man LIKE 1:51:41.479 --> 1:51:44.040 i could just be, Me like if you if you 1:51:44.120 --> 1:51:46.080 were On busting with The, boys like the YEAR i, 1:51:46.160 --> 1:51:49.840 retired it wouldn't have been this, show RIGHT i, mean 1:51:50.240 --> 1:51:53.080 and then to where now it's like like it still 1:51:53.080 --> 1:51:55.439 would have been me and, you but the conversation would 1:51:55.439 --> 1:51:57.840 have been so much more different BECAUSE i was, like 1:51:58.280 --> 1:52:00.200 this is what they know me as right, here LIKE 1:52:00.240 --> 1:52:04.439 i can't really in a, BOX. 1:52:02.400 --> 1:52:04.080 I can't really mess this. 1:52:04.240 --> 1:52:07.200 Up to whereas Now i'm like if they watch this 1:52:07.320 --> 1:52:10.599 podcast and and and they Watch busting with The boys and. 1:52:10.520 --> 1:52:12.720 They're, like man, LIKE i don't LIKE i don't even 1:52:12.720 --> 1:52:14.479 know why he liked. IT i don't even like. 1:52:14.560 --> 1:52:19.360 Him don't hey, like don't give a, Dang like you 1:52:19.400 --> 1:52:21.920 ain't got to, right but you can't listen to me 1:52:22.280 --> 1:52:24.679 and be like you don't agree with these things because 1:52:24.680 --> 1:52:27.880 they my, Stories you know What i'm, saying like don't 1:52:27.880 --> 1:52:30.719 give a dang who, cares and like that's the dope 1:52:30.720 --> 1:52:32.840 thing about what y'all, do, Man and like that's WHY 1:52:32.840 --> 1:52:35.280 i like the moll bust is like it's, important you, 1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:38.080 know like it's important that you make freaking. Decisions will 1:52:38.479 --> 1:52:41.240 you know What i'm, saying, Nephew like we can you 1:52:41.240 --> 1:52:43.000 know What i'm, Saying, like we can't just we can't 1:52:43.120 --> 1:52:46.759 just live in the world to where you float around giving, 1:52:46.920 --> 1:52:50.200 excuses you, Know and you, KNOW i got LIKE i 1:52:50.200 --> 1:52:53.040 got D m On twitter from this guy who's like 1:52:53.080 --> 1:52:55.320 actually super cool AND i guess he reports or. WHATEVER 1:52:55.479 --> 1:52:57.720 i asked a simple question On twitter yesterday WHICH i 1:52:57.720 --> 1:53:00.360 thought was thought provoking and can have some, conversations and 1:53:00.400 --> 1:53:01.160 people got pissed. 1:53:01.160 --> 1:53:02.120 Off, right simple. 1:53:02.200 --> 1:53:04.320 QUESTION i think Tom brady's had the greatest career of 1:53:04.360 --> 1:53:07.439 any quarterback that's ever. Lived, Right, therefore in our, game 1:53:07.479 --> 1:53:10.920 the most important, position, right the position that people care 1:53:10.920 --> 1:53:12.640 about the. Most you make the most, money you have 1:53:12.680 --> 1:53:14.719 to protect the. Most if you've had the best career 1:53:14.720 --> 1:53:17.720 at that, position you are the. Goat, Right he's the 1:53:17.720 --> 1:53:20.960 greatest of all. Time YET i don't know If Tom 1:53:21.000 --> 1:53:25.559 brady has a characteristic one individual characteristic THAT i believe 1:53:25.600 --> 1:53:27.840 he has more of than anybody. Where IF i was 1:53:27.880 --> 1:53:30.880 building a super, quarterback i'd picked that characteristic Of Tom. 1:53:30.920 --> 1:53:35.000 Brady people felt LIKE i was Downing Tom brady WHEN i. 1:53:35.080 --> 1:53:37.080 Wasn't it was really a compliment because how does a 1:53:37.120 --> 1:53:40.519 man accomplish all of this? Crap yet you don't have 1:53:40.560 --> 1:53:44.280 the strongest, arm not necessarily the. Smartest you can't improve 1:53:44.320 --> 1:53:45.639 and get out of the. Pocket LIKE i was thinking 1:53:45.640 --> 1:53:48.840 about all these things like other, people and like this 1:53:48.960 --> 1:53:50.840 dude who like tweets me all the, time sends me 1:53:50.880 --> 1:53:54.160 all these things in the, business is like going on 1:53:54.200 --> 1:53:55.920 this grant AND i was, like, bro what the hell 1:53:55.920 --> 1:53:56.160 are you? 1:53:56.280 --> 1:53:57.479 Arguing like it's. 1:53:57.320 --> 1:53:59.799 Actually not even an argument in the, Tweet i'm asking 1:53:59.840 --> 1:54:02.600 for your trade that you would pick On Tom, Brady, like, 1:54:02.680 --> 1:54:05.559 right you might Pick Josh allen's. Arms you know Of 1:54:05.880 --> 1:54:10.479 Patrick mahomes's, Arm Aaron rodgers, accuracy drew, whatever, right and you, 1:54:10.520 --> 1:54:13.920 know maybe you Picked tom's, brain BUT i wouldn't Because 1:54:13.920 --> 1:54:16.680 i'd Picked peyton's, right you know What i'm. Saying so, 1:54:16.840 --> 1:54:19.240 like but people get mad about that and then they 1:54:20.000 --> 1:54:23.880 look at you like you're. Wrong you're criticizing the goat you're. 1:54:24.000 --> 1:54:26.479 Nothing you only won one Super, bowl you only been 1:54:26.520 --> 1:54:27.160 to one Pro you. 1:54:27.160 --> 1:54:30.880 Know What i'm, Saying she ain't Been. Anne i'm asking a, question. 1:54:31.320 --> 1:54:34.160 Stupid and on the other side of, that you Ain't. 1:54:34.240 --> 1:54:36.880 Tom he ain't your, family he ain't your. Friend he 1:54:36.920 --> 1:54:38.960 don't even know who you. Are what you mad? For 1:54:40.320 --> 1:54:44.440 you can't, throw you can't you cannot. Throw but you 1:54:44.600 --> 1:54:44.920 mad at. 1:54:44.960 --> 1:54:46.720 Me and THEN i think about all this stuff And i'm, 1:54:46.760 --> 1:54:50.200 like but that's the, life and it's actually the life. 1:54:50.320 --> 1:54:52.600 That you want to get to because you want people 1:54:52.880 --> 1:54:55.720 to be moved by what you. Do that is our. 1:54:55.840 --> 1:54:57.880 Job our job is to move. 1:54:58.000 --> 1:55:01.400 People if we don't move, people people don't, watch then 1:55:01.440 --> 1:55:06.040 people don't. Care and what happens is you actually only 1:55:06.120 --> 1:55:09.120 get to start moving people when you stop caring about 1:55:09.160 --> 1:55:12.040 which way you move. Them because IF i only want 1:55:12.080 --> 1:55:14.520 to move you one, way THEN i gotta work at, 1:55:14.560 --> 1:55:17.400 that you see What i'm. Saying but If i'm just 1:55:17.480 --> 1:55:19.240 gonna be me And i'm gonna let you figure out 1:55:19.280 --> 1:55:21.360 what side you fall, on Then i'm. 1:55:21.400 --> 1:55:25.280 Winning and you know that's WHY i get to come 1:55:25.320 --> 1:55:28.520 on the. Bus you're trying to tell me, that, saying, 1:55:28.600 --> 1:55:30.120 like you, KNOW i just need to pick my four 1:55:31.160 --> 1:55:32.480 no that that that was definitely a. 1:55:32.560 --> 1:55:35.320 Pepto and, listen you, know maybe what we, do, man you, 1:55:35.360 --> 1:55:36.760 know IF i do IF i do well, enough and 1:55:36.840 --> 1:55:39.480 the tier ones at least except me, enough we just 1:55:39.600 --> 1:55:41.800 come back and do this once a, year and THEN 1:55:41.880 --> 1:55:43.760 i can have you And taylor were friends of the 1:55:43.800 --> 1:55:45.600 show and one friend of the, show and then Once 1:55:45.720 --> 1:55:48.560 taylor is, free because LIKE i travel with the, Pot, 1:55:48.720 --> 1:55:51.440 yeah we could do a busting with the boys face 1:55:51.520 --> 1:55:55.200 first combo and we'll just have a good time and 1:55:55.320 --> 1:55:57.480 we'll talk And i'll have my own questions for you 1:55:57.600 --> 1:56:00.120 And taylor and y'all have y'all questions for, me and 1:56:00.160 --> 1:56:02.520 Then taylor can be, like, oh But i'll treat you 1:56:02.720 --> 1:56:03.520 LIKE i Treated Josh. 1:56:03.560 --> 1:56:05.960 Norman i'll walk over to the, sideline and then when 1:56:06.000 --> 1:56:07.840 you walk up on, me you'll look like you might 1:56:08.000 --> 1:56:09.600 just be creating that you must just be assuming. 1:56:09.640 --> 1:56:12.160 That. Ya you'll look like a tall little person and 1:56:12.360 --> 1:56:14.160 you'll be looking up at me like, this and Then 1:56:14.200 --> 1:56:16.160 i'll ignore you Because i'm all big AND i can 1:56:16.200 --> 1:56:17.600 beat you up IF i want it. To but then 1:56:17.640 --> 1:56:19.480 IF i beat you, Up i'm dead, wrong Because i'm 1:56:19.520 --> 1:56:21.480 three twenty and you're one ninety, Nine and what DO 1:56:21.600 --> 1:56:23.520 i get if you know all these things and all 1:56:23.560 --> 1:56:25.960 those things might happen and it might be more. Entertaining 1:56:26.080 --> 1:56:30.160 But i'm just, saying that's, that AND i belong If 1:56:30.200 --> 1:56:33.600 i'm not on what is another mountain with people's? Faces 1:56:35.320 --> 1:56:37.840 It's mount, busmore, dude it's a different. Mountain it's a different. 1:56:37.920 --> 1:56:40.960 Mountain you saw how many heads were on that mountain 1:56:42.000 --> 1:56:42.440 that wasn't? 1:56:42.440 --> 1:56:44.120 Okay by? 1:56:44.200 --> 1:56:44.560 What by? 1:56:45.000 --> 1:56:47.400 Not how many seats are on this? 1:56:47.520 --> 1:56:47.760 Bus? 1:56:49.000 --> 1:56:52.080 Ah it gives me a good it gives me a better. Number, 1:56:52.960 --> 1:56:55.000 again it just said all it all depends on the. 1:56:55.040 --> 1:56:57.440 Criteria you would one hundred get to thirty if you 1:56:57.560 --> 1:57:02.480 had eight. Seats, hell, yeah, DUDE i should make a. 1:57:02.640 --> 1:57:04.760 Roster it's fifty. 1:57:04.800 --> 1:57:09.880 Three you can tear. It we could tear. 1:57:09.960 --> 1:57:10.000 It. 1:57:11.680 --> 1:57:14.520 Yeah we could do a first Team All, bus Second 1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:17.200 Team All Bus Honorable Mention All bus. 1:57:18.040 --> 1:57:20.320 And you can have. Eleven you can have. Eleven you could, 1:57:20.440 --> 1:57:21.760 yeah and you could have. Eleven you can have. 1:57:21.840 --> 1:57:24.240 Eleven, Right so if you go first second Team ottawale 1:57:24.320 --> 1:57:27.480 mention eleven in each what if you could only get? 1:57:27.520 --> 1:57:31.720 One just one? ONE i can only vote One Podcast 1:57:32.160 --> 1:57:36.360 Darren waller to, me that's a note to. Me that's for, 1:57:36.480 --> 1:57:38.880 me that's my first. Thrain for, yeah that's my personal 1:57:39.040 --> 1:57:40.680 like hearing his, story hearing. 1:57:40.520 --> 1:57:42.720 How open he was about him talking about mental, health, 1:57:42.840 --> 1:57:45.480 like you, KNOW i know the world's kind of shifting 1:57:45.560 --> 1:57:47.440 and doing all a lot more mental health stuff and 1:57:47.480 --> 1:57:49.920 speaking on it and everything like. That but he was 1:57:50.000 --> 1:57:52.280 one of the first kind of people THAT i sat 1:57:52.320 --> 1:57:55.480 and listened to speaking that kind of avenue doing it 1:57:55.560 --> 1:57:58.080 too on somebody who was passed out in A sprouse 1:57:58.120 --> 1:58:01.920 parking lot and then going to. Rehab and now he's you, 1:58:02.000 --> 1:58:04.680 know made a big contract with The. Raiders SO i 1:58:04.760 --> 1:58:07.800 feel Like Darren waller has been my favorite. PODCAST i got. 1:58:07.800 --> 1:58:10.480 TO i got to, KNOW i gonna know where to. Go, 1:58:10.560 --> 1:58:13.720 OKAY i literally flew in for. THIS i got to 1:58:13.880 --> 1:58:15.200 do his podcast last. 1:58:15.200 --> 1:58:16.720 Week. Darren here's a. 1:58:16.680 --> 1:58:20.680 Podcast Called Comeback stories with a guy Named Donnie. Starkins 1:58:20.720 --> 1:58:24.760 and So donnie is his yoga and meditation, coach and 1:58:24.880 --> 1:58:28.760 he's Also Tyron matthews yoga and meditation to Have tyron 1:58:28.840 --> 1:58:31.480 on and he he actually called me on my way over, here. 1:58:31.520 --> 1:58:34.680 And, tyron, yes did you tell Him i'm about to do? 1:58:35.640 --> 1:58:36.880 NO i, didn't BUT i can tell. HIM i tell 1:58:36.920 --> 1:58:38.440 him he loves he loves this type of. 1:58:38.440 --> 1:58:38.920 Stuff And. 1:58:40.520 --> 1:58:44.120 Donnie actually is my son's yoga and meditation coach because 1:58:44.120 --> 1:58:46.880 he's In, arizona and my son's kind of like a big. 1:58:46.960 --> 1:58:48.720 Thinker AND i was, like, bro you need to, relax 1:58:48.880 --> 1:58:51.320 Like i'm thinking so much LIKE i ruined you as a, 1:58:51.400 --> 1:58:53.520 child the fact THAT i would sit in the stands 1:58:53.840 --> 1:58:55.680 and you tell your coach hold, on, SEKE i go 1:58:55.720 --> 1:58:57.960 talk to my dad and you to come. Over and 1:58:58.080 --> 1:59:02.240 we talked coverages so and uh and so like you 1:59:02.600 --> 1:59:05.040 go on man and it's it's and it's it's it's super. Cool. 1:59:05.760 --> 1:59:08.280 Uh they kind of send you like they have a 1:59:08.400 --> 1:59:12.080 list of questions about you, know your your moments of 1:59:12.160 --> 1:59:16.520 pain and different. Things and it was therapeutic for, me you, 1:59:16.640 --> 1:59:19.800 know LIKE i ended up talking like a ton and 1:59:20.120 --> 1:59:22.960 just much like, THIS i get so enamored with the 1:59:23.040 --> 1:59:26.200 people working with at the, Time LIKE i started Asking darren, 1:59:26.320 --> 1:59:29.840 questions you, know and he was and he answered and you, 1:59:29.960 --> 1:59:31.560 know and then like toward the, end he's, like, bro 1:59:31.800 --> 1:59:34.200 like just listening to you like just was a wealth of, 1:59:34.280 --> 1:59:36.680 knowledge like you inspired. Me AND i was, like, nah, 1:59:36.800 --> 1:59:38.760 dog LIKE i ain't come through none of the things 1:59:38.880 --> 1:59:41.080 that you, have and to now be in this, point 1:59:41.480 --> 1:59:43.720 in this place in your life where you're using your 1:59:43.840 --> 1:59:48.080 story to share other stories that mirror. YOURS i was, 1:59:48.200 --> 1:59:51.320 like that's what it's truly. About and SO i agree with. You, 1:59:51.480 --> 1:59:54.600 man he's a he's a he's a fascinating human along 1:59:54.680 --> 2:00:00.200 with being a, shoot super duper. Talented and so if 2:00:00.240 --> 2:00:02.480 he's he's your number one, bro like you got a 2:00:02.520 --> 2:00:02.960 good number. 2:00:03.000 --> 2:00:05.680 One, WELL i appreciate. That like his, story like he's 2:00:05.720 --> 2:00:06.120 on the pot of. 2:00:06.200 --> 2:00:08.040 Me and you know this, too like playing it you 2:00:08.400 --> 2:00:12.760 played AT, Lsu like he's telling stories about beeing, it 2:00:12.880 --> 2:00:15.680 like getting p from other, dudes getting somebody to pee 2:00:15.720 --> 2:00:18.600 in his, cup being drunk on the, sideline like you 2:00:18.840 --> 2:00:21.880 just you, know when somebody says that you know that 2:00:22.040 --> 2:00:24.400 teammate or that athlete that you think, about like what 2:00:24.520 --> 2:00:27.080 you saw in, college and to go from somebody who 2:00:27.080 --> 2:00:29.160 has a who had a mindset like, that cause again 2:00:29.280 --> 2:00:33.200 you like, understand you're, like this dude ain't doing shit if. 2:00:33.120 --> 2:00:35.320 He continues to do it like, this like this is 2:00:35.360 --> 2:00:36.440 a bad influence on my. 2:00:36.560 --> 2:00:38.800 LIFE i need to not be around that guy to 2:00:39.200 --> 2:00:41.520 like blacking, out passing, out o ding in a parking 2:00:41.600 --> 2:00:44.360 lot to now being on where he's gotten as a. 2:00:44.440 --> 2:00:48.000 Human it's just it's just so interesting because it's, ultimately 2:00:48.120 --> 2:00:50.800 like you, said they ask questions where you're basically talking to, 2:00:50.840 --> 2:00:54.400 yourself like you having that deep ass conversation with yourself 2:00:54.480 --> 2:00:56.600 and figuring out building and growing from there about what 2:00:56.760 --> 2:00:57.960 emotions me and to you and shit like. 2:00:58.000 --> 2:01:01.280 THAT i just find it super. INTERESTING i think that. 2:01:03.400 --> 2:01:11.840 Mortality is like a very sobering. Deal you, know WHEN 2:01:11.880 --> 2:01:15.040 i dealt, with you, know losing my organs and. 2:01:15.520 --> 2:01:20.160 Please talk about, that oh thank, god sickle. Cell, yeah 2:01:20.360 --> 2:01:21.960 learning about that and become that near death. 2:01:22.000 --> 2:01:23.240 Experience it's a good. Story. 2:01:23.320 --> 2:01:25.720 Yeah so In, denver you, know we're In. Denver i'm 2:01:25.880 --> 2:01:29.840 going before With washington like year. Four and WHEN i got, 2:01:29.920 --> 2:01:31.800 BACK i kept telling the. TRAINERS i was, like, hey, 2:01:31.840 --> 2:01:34.200 man what's under your REAL i was, like what is? This, 2:01:34.360 --> 2:01:36.240 like what's under? There and they kept laughing at. ME 2:01:36.280 --> 2:01:38.360 i was, like, nah, bro like something's. Wrong and so 2:01:38.440 --> 2:01:40.240 we get To. Friday i've been practicing the whole week 2:01:40.240 --> 2:01:42.560 getting burned up. Too it's the worst to get burned 2:01:42.640 --> 2:01:44.520 up by scout. Team you know What i'm Saying i'm 2:01:44.520 --> 2:01:47.480 getting burned, up And psyche he's all, off like he's, 2:01:47.560 --> 2:01:50.200 terrible and so they sent me to the. Doctor they 2:01:50.240 --> 2:01:51.920 give me, This they make you drink that, stuff put 2:01:51.920 --> 2:01:54.480 you in the LITTLE ct machine or, whatever and they're, like, 2:01:54.520 --> 2:01:57.200 oh you have a spleen. Contusion AND i was, like, oh, okay, 2:01:57.280 --> 2:01:58.880 cool to give me some. MEDICINE i can't go to the. 2:01:58.920 --> 2:02:01.560 Game play the next, week going To denver the next. 2:02:01.600 --> 2:02:04.880 Time first time In. PITTSBURGH i make the joke leaving the, 2:02:04.960 --> 2:02:08.040 HOUSE i hope my spleen is good this, time just being, 2:02:08.120 --> 2:02:11.400 stupid like Because i'm. Stupid and, so, man we're getting 2:02:11.440 --> 2:02:12.760 on and play the whole. Game we're getting on the 2:02:12.800 --> 2:02:16.400 bus after the plane after the, game And Ryan gross 2:02:16.560 --> 2:02:18.600 was the trainer AND i was, like, hey, man like 2:02:19.160 --> 2:02:22.720 my spleen, hurts and he bust out. Laughing, Right he's, like, 2:02:22.880 --> 2:02:24.920 ah how you know. THAT i was, like it happened, 2:02:24.960 --> 2:02:25.840 before and it happened here. 2:02:25.960 --> 2:02:26.320 Too it's. 2:02:26.360 --> 2:02:29.680 Weird doctor comes. Up i'm sitting in MY, CDs you, 2:02:29.760 --> 2:02:33.040 know doing all. This they get your, BAGS i get my. 2:02:33.120 --> 2:02:33.720 Bags we go to the. 2:02:33.800 --> 2:02:35.560 Hospital they're kind of trying to figure out what. Happens 2:02:35.760 --> 2:02:37.760 SO i had what's called a spleening, farction which means 2:02:37.800 --> 2:02:40.760 your spleen. Dies, Right so if you have sickle cell 2:02:40.920 --> 2:02:43.000 for people that can see, us, right your blood looks 2:02:43.080 --> 2:02:43.240 like this. 2:02:43.440 --> 2:02:44.480 Right this is like your. 2:02:44.520 --> 2:02:47.040 Blood when your blood, sickles it turns this way, Right 2:02:47.120 --> 2:02:49.280 so it's like an actual like a boomerang, Almost and 2:02:49.360 --> 2:02:51.160 so it doesn't pass through the vessels the right. Way 2:02:51.200 --> 2:02:53.120 so when it gets into your, spleen which is like 2:02:53.160 --> 2:02:55.960 the largest organ in your immune, system parts of it could. 2:02:55.960 --> 2:02:56.600 Die so the part. 2:02:56.680 --> 2:02:58.800 Dies but they tell, me like the next WEEK i 2:02:58.880 --> 2:03:00.520 go get the, Test they're, like you should be able to, 2:03:00.560 --> 2:03:02.880 Play like you'll be, Back you'll be. Okay and So 2:03:02.920 --> 2:03:04.800 i'm running. It i'm trying to jog around the. FIELD 2:03:04.840 --> 2:03:07.120 i practice every, day and every day they're sending me 2:03:07.160 --> 2:03:09.320 home at like twelve, o'clock, bro cause it's. Awful so, 2:03:09.480 --> 2:03:11.680 man like a month and a half or so go, by, 2:03:11.800 --> 2:03:15.000 bro and like nothing. Happens like they keep testing, me nothing's, 2:03:15.040 --> 2:03:19.160 wrong but in this TIME i went from two oh 2:03:19.320 --> 2:03:23.360 five to one, seventy you know What i'm. Saying So i'm, like, 2:03:23.440 --> 2:03:25.640 bruh something's. Wrong like one day the doctor comes, In 2:03:25.760 --> 2:03:28.560 doug he goes through like all my numbers and then 2:03:28.680 --> 2:03:30.600 gives me the paper and he's, like i'll listen to 2:03:30.680 --> 2:03:32.240 you complain. Now AND i was, like, Bro i'm not, 2:03:32.280 --> 2:03:35.160 complaining like something's wrong with. Me but they couldn't find it. 2:03:35.640 --> 2:03:39.160 Right and so one, day, man one Day i'm in the. 2:03:39.200 --> 2:03:42.280 House were Playing. Cincinnati OBVIOUSLY i don't get to. Go 2:03:42.480 --> 2:03:45.080 my mom's up helping my wife with the kids and, 2:03:45.120 --> 2:03:47.720 stuff AND i CALL i Call. YANK i was, Like, 2:03:47.800 --> 2:03:50.720 yan do you have a window? Open and she's like. 2:03:50.880 --> 2:03:53.080 No so Like i'm shaking and not like, shivering, Bro 2:03:53.200 --> 2:03:55.560 Like i'm, shaking like the beds. MOVING i was, like something's. 2:03:55.600 --> 2:03:58.320 Open it's freezing in. Here so they get like all 2:03:58.400 --> 2:04:01.960 these covers, man like they wrap towel around my head and. 2:04:02.000 --> 2:04:05.200 Stuff and so my wife goes to get the blow, 2:04:05.280 --> 2:04:07.720 dryer but she had blow dryed our hair on cool 2:04:07.920 --> 2:04:09.320 so when she put it under the, cover it was. 2:04:09.400 --> 2:04:11.560 Cold AND i was Like Jesus, christ like you know 2:04:11.560 --> 2:04:12.840 WHAT i. Mean and SO i was, like, hey that's not. 2:04:12.920 --> 2:04:16.520 It and so, man So i'm shaking my mom LIKE 2:04:16.520 --> 2:04:18.240 i told, you my mom praised THE. Toni so she's 2:04:18.280 --> 2:04:20.600 like Rubbing holy all on my head and she's. Praying 2:04:20.760 --> 2:04:24.040 SO i just start. Praying, Man AND i was, like you, 2:04:24.120 --> 2:04:26.120 KNOW i was, like take care of my, kids you. 2:04:26.200 --> 2:04:28.040 KNOW i was, like bless my, Son LIKE i want 2:04:28.080 --> 2:04:29.880 to be a great. MAN i wanted to be a great, 2:04:29.960 --> 2:04:33.360 husband you, know allow him to you, know allow him 2:04:33.480 --> 2:04:36.880 to take care of his sisters and his. Mom AND 2:04:36.960 --> 2:04:39.240 i was, like allow my girls to understand how to 2:04:39.280 --> 2:04:41.520 be independent and to find a great. MAN i was, 2:04:41.600 --> 2:04:43.800 like allowing my wife to find a man to take 2:04:43.880 --> 2:04:45.600 care of, him to take care of. HER i was, 2:04:45.680 --> 2:04:48.960 like only one. Stipulation he can't be more attractive THAN i, am. 2:04:50.520 --> 2:04:50.560 You. 2:04:50.640 --> 2:04:53.040 Know and THEN i was, LIKE i JUST i just 2:04:53.120 --> 2:04:54.160 remember it so. Vividly. 2:04:54.240 --> 2:04:57.120 MAN i was, like And, god Anything i've ever done 2:04:57.680 --> 2:04:59.520 that wasn't the way you wanted me to do. It 2:04:59.600 --> 2:05:02.160 Anyway i've ever harmed you Or i've let you, down 2:05:02.280 --> 2:05:02.960 just please forgive. 2:05:03.000 --> 2:05:06.160 Me and you're thinking this is. IT i THOUGHT i was. 2:05:06.240 --> 2:05:10.120 Dying and THEN i, said And i'm. Ready LIKE i 2:05:10.240 --> 2:05:12.600 tell the story so often now because people ask about. 2:05:12.600 --> 2:05:17.080 It AFTER i SAID i was, ready it was no 2:05:17.320 --> 2:05:21.200 LESS i, mean no more than point zero zero one. 2:05:21.280 --> 2:05:26.280 SECONDS i stopped. SHAKING i wasn't, cold no, more none of, 2:05:26.360 --> 2:05:30.080 that you. Know and like in that moment, THOUGH i was, like, 2:05:30.600 --> 2:05:32.640 sheesh you, know LIKE i worked all my life like. 2:05:32.720 --> 2:05:33.280 That that was year. 2:05:33.360 --> 2:05:35.320 Seven LIKE i got my you, know a good deal 2:05:35.800 --> 2:05:37.560 with The, steelers and you, know we had a big 2:05:37.640 --> 2:05:40.600 house and cars and. Stuff AND i was, LIKE i 2:05:40.640 --> 2:05:42.400 didn't really pray about none of that, stuff you know 2:05:42.440 --> 2:05:44.080 What i'm, Saying LIKE i wasn't even really LIKE i 2:05:44.120 --> 2:05:46.800 didn't REALLY i wasn't even thankful for any of, it 2:05:47.000 --> 2:05:48.560 you know What i'm, Saying LIKE i prayed about the 2:05:48.640 --> 2:05:49.200 things that were. 2:05:49.280 --> 2:05:50.720 Important And so. 2:05:52.840 --> 2:05:56.400 About two and a half weeks, LATER i called a 2:05:56.480 --> 2:05:59.160 doctor WHO i had seen a ton of, times and 2:05:59.560 --> 2:06:00.840 he was In New york AND i was, like, hey, 2:06:00.880 --> 2:06:03.680 MAN i need noth. Test and you could tell in his, Voice, 2:06:03.720 --> 2:06:05.840 bro he was so tired of, me you know What i'm. 2:06:05.840 --> 2:06:07.880 Saying he's, like all, RIGHT i set it up for, You. 2:06:07.960 --> 2:06:08.480 Ryan you. 2:06:08.520 --> 2:06:10.120 Know i'm, like you could just. Tell he was, Like 2:06:10.840 --> 2:06:13.800 i've seen you all these. Times nothing's wrong with, you 2:06:14.320 --> 2:06:16.960 you know What i'm. Saying so about an hour later 2:06:17.240 --> 2:06:19.960 he calls and he's like where are? You AND i was, 2:06:20.000 --> 2:06:22.080 like we're in the. Car he's, like don't pack a, 2:06:22.120 --> 2:06:24.640 bag don't go to your, house go to the. Hospital 2:06:24.680 --> 2:06:25.160 they're waiting on. 2:06:25.240 --> 2:06:27.560 You AND i was, like all this. 2:06:27.680 --> 2:06:31.000 Sucks so they bring me to the. Hospital and so 2:06:31.120 --> 2:06:33.280 the first, night this lady walks in the. Room she's 2:06:33.320 --> 2:06:36.160 the infectious disease, doctor, right AND i have like this 2:06:37.360 --> 2:06:39.920 this like little bulb in, me, right and she like 2:06:40.040 --> 2:06:42.200 opens it, up, bro and she's like smelling it and 2:06:42.440 --> 2:06:45.360 like she's, like, oh, yeah that's. Infection but they wanted 2:06:45.400 --> 2:06:47.440 to see what the infection, was you know WHAT i, 2:06:47.560 --> 2:06:50.560 Mean and so they could figure it. Out but they 2:06:50.640 --> 2:06:52.960 take the skin and so my spleen was four times 2:06:53.000 --> 2:06:55.240 the size of a normal spleen because it was. Infected 2:06:55.960 --> 2:06:57.560 and so that's WHY i couldn't eat because of that 2:06:57.640 --> 2:06:59.760 closed my stomach and that's WHY i was losing all. 2:06:59.800 --> 2:07:02.560 That so, man where they're doing this, thing the doctor's, 2:07:02.640 --> 2:07:04.640 like if we cut you open and take this, out 2:07:04.720 --> 2:07:07.120 you'll never play football. Again because he was, like because 2:07:07.120 --> 2:07:09.680 you're because you're training and stuff your core whatever. Whatever 2:07:09.960 --> 2:07:13.240 so they vacuum. It so they take me, down they 2:07:13.280 --> 2:07:14.840 put me to. Sleep they got like this little vacuum 2:07:14.920 --> 2:07:17.080 they vacuum and coming to room, cool they got. 2:07:17.120 --> 2:07:18.560 It they didn't get enough to do it. 2:07:18.600 --> 2:07:22.040 Laparoscopoly SO i go back RIGHT i wake up in 2:07:22.120 --> 2:07:25.440 the middle of it this, time, though and SO i 2:07:25.560 --> 2:07:27.960 look at the doctor And i'm, like, HEY i was, 2:07:28.040 --> 2:07:29.320 like he was, like can. 2:07:29.240 --> 2:07:32.360 You he's, like can you take the? Pain that's what 2:07:32.440 --> 2:07:32.800 he asked. 2:07:32.840 --> 2:07:35.640 Me AND i asked the question any football player would, 2:07:35.640 --> 2:07:39.320 ask AM i supposed to be able, to you, Know 2:07:39.440 --> 2:07:41.680 and he's going, LIKE i, guess like it's up to. 2:07:41.720 --> 2:07:44.760 You and that to me made it seem, like, well 2:07:45.520 --> 2:07:47.960 normal humans do. This ain't no, wait, no, like no 2:07:48.080 --> 2:07:50.320 normal human gonna do WHAT i. Can't SO i just 2:07:50.360 --> 2:07:52.400 sit there and it hurts so, bad so much so 2:07:52.920 --> 2:07:55.600 when they wheel me back in the, room immediately my 2:07:55.640 --> 2:07:58.000 wife goes what happened because she could see it on my. 2:07:58.080 --> 2:08:00.600 Face AND i didn't tell her right then because you, 2:08:00.680 --> 2:08:02.880 know she's like in mama bear. Mode but THEN i 2:08:02.960 --> 2:08:05.920 told her what happened or, whatever and then THEN i 2:08:06.000 --> 2:08:07.960 asked the doctor LATER i wasn't supposed to be able 2:08:07.960 --> 2:08:09.800 to take, it by the, way but he wanted to 2:08:09.840 --> 2:08:12.040 try to get as much as he. Could, Yeah so 2:08:12.240 --> 2:08:14.600 that that same, night, bro my fever goes to like 2:08:14.640 --> 2:08:19.160 one hundred and, four right this. Team doctor tells the, nurse, 2:08:19.640 --> 2:08:21.400 oh just give him some. Talent all this happens all the, 2:08:21.480 --> 2:08:23.720 time because it was happening all the, Time like every 2:08:23.800 --> 2:08:26.600 night i'd go to, sleep they'd wake. Up we wake 2:08:26.680 --> 2:08:29.000 up at like to change all the sheets everything SO 2:08:29.240 --> 2:08:31.640 i could and change my pajamas and stuff BECAUSE i 2:08:31.640 --> 2:08:34.520 would be sleeping in. Sweat so, man we do that 2:08:34.680 --> 2:08:36.320 and then, like h so that would winning on A. 2:08:36.360 --> 2:08:39.240 Friday It's, monday and It's tuesday morning, now, Bro And 2:08:39.280 --> 2:08:42.320 i'm in the bathroom And i'm throwing. Up you KNOW 2:08:42.480 --> 2:08:44.320 i can say on this Show diary or. Everything it's 2:08:44.360 --> 2:08:47.440 coming out of both. Ends, Bro i'm, like my fever's 2:08:47.520 --> 2:08:49.640 high as. Hell AND i just told my wife. 2:08:49.680 --> 2:08:49.840 Too. 2:08:49.880 --> 2:08:51.960 MAN i was, Like i'm. Tired you know What i'm. 2:08:51.960 --> 2:08:54.840 Saying it's Like i'm really, tired you. Know AND i was, 2:08:54.880 --> 2:08:56.200 like and it's not Like i'm giving. UP i was, 2:08:56.200 --> 2:08:58.560 Like i'm just, tired, babe you know What i'm. SAYING 2:08:58.560 --> 2:09:00.640 i was, like whatever happens from, here, Like i'm cool with. 2:09:00.720 --> 2:09:03.200 It and my doctor he looked Like Tom. Brady it's 2:09:03.240 --> 2:09:06.400 called doctor Tom. Brady he walks, in he walks like 2:09:06.440 --> 2:09:08.080 and he has seen me LIKE i had never, complained, 2:09:08.120 --> 2:09:09.880 bro the whole TIME i was, There and he walked 2:09:09.920 --> 2:09:11.560 into the bathroom and he's, Like i'm gonna take you, 2:09:11.600 --> 2:09:14.040 now you, Know and so he goes, down he takes. 2:09:14.120 --> 2:09:16.080 ME i see the doctor that put me to the. 2:09:16.120 --> 2:09:18.440 Hospital the day, after he comes to visit me and 2:09:18.560 --> 2:09:21.720 he tells, me he's, like had you not called me On, friday. 2:09:21.520 --> 2:09:22.760 You wouldn't have made it through the. Weekend. 2:09:23.760 --> 2:09:27.480 Fuck and so it was just like it was just you, 2:09:27.600 --> 2:09:31.800 know it's one of those things that that shaped the 2:09:31.920 --> 2:09:34.000 way like you look at, things you know What i'm. 2:09:34.000 --> 2:09:35.640 Saying and that's, why Like i'm never, Bro i'm never 2:09:35.720 --> 2:09:37.840 gonna die of, stress you know What i'm, Saying because 2:09:37.840 --> 2:09:44.080 it's just like when the normal everyday things, happen like 2:09:44.160 --> 2:09:47.360 those are normal everyday, things you know What i'm. Saying 2:09:47.440 --> 2:09:49.880 like when when when you're dealing with the stuff that 2:09:50.200 --> 2:09:53.960 like we all deal, with like just accept that as 2:09:54.040 --> 2:09:56.320 part of, it, right because there's so much there's so 2:09:56.440 --> 2:09:59.040 much else that could be going on or that you 2:09:59.160 --> 2:10:04.160 could be dealing with that's so much bigger than what 2:10:04.440 --> 2:10:06.640 every day. Is, like why are you gonna allow that 2:10:06.760 --> 2:10:08.560 to change your? Mood why AM i gonna allow that 2:10:08.920 --> 2:10:12.240 to affect the WAY i treat the, people the people around, 2:10:12.320 --> 2:10:15.839 me and LIKE i have to and whenever something happens 2:10:15.880 --> 2:10:17.879 AND i, do let it get me a little, frazzle 2:10:18.280 --> 2:10:20.200 LIKE i get pissed off with myself BECAUSE i gotta 2:10:20.240 --> 2:10:22.680 bring myself back to what it could, be you. 2:10:22.800 --> 2:10:24.520 Know AND i think. 2:10:26.520 --> 2:10:29.520 In telling that, story LIKE i love telling it in 2:10:29.600 --> 2:10:33.360 the sense of it helps me, remember, like, man it 2:10:33.400 --> 2:10:35.920 could be, worse you. Know and it's so, crazy like 2:10:36.040 --> 2:10:38.040 all of my best, friends like only one friend came 2:10:38.080 --> 2:10:43.360 to see me and my cousin right BECAUSE i wouldn't 2:10:43.360 --> 2:10:46.520 tell anybody how SICK i, was you, know BECAUSE i 2:10:46.640 --> 2:10:49.120 was in that mode of, like don't be a burden 2:10:49.240 --> 2:10:52.200 to other, people, like you, Know and SO i, remember 2:10:52.400 --> 2:10:54.640 like my best friend finally did see. Me he saw 2:10:54.680 --> 2:10:57.320 it was like the next. Year and at this POINT 2:10:57.360 --> 2:10:58.880 i had gained some weight. Too, BRO i was like one. 2:10:59.000 --> 2:11:02.120 Seventies SO i, felt, whoa you know WHAT i. Mean he's, like, 2:11:02.200 --> 2:11:04.560 man your hed biggest. Ship you know What i'm. Saying 2:11:04.880 --> 2:11:07.920 he's like, yeah he was Like he's, like, bro what 2:11:08.120 --> 2:11:09.720 Was he's, like you didn't tell me you were that. 2:11:09.840 --> 2:11:11.760 Sick AND i was, like, Well it was one of 2:11:11.800 --> 2:11:15.160 those things the doctors never told. ME i was that 2:11:15.280 --> 2:11:17.320 sick though, too you know WHAT i. Mean and so, 2:11:17.520 --> 2:11:19.600 like How i'm gonna call you and be, like, well, 2:11:19.720 --> 2:11:22.280 man Like i'm, dying like you feel all this when 2:11:22.480 --> 2:11:25.600 every Day i'm being told that nothing's wrong with. You 2:11:26.040 --> 2:11:28.440 and so like that was just like that was that 2:11:28.560 --> 2:11:30.839 was a Good that was a moment THAT i remember 2:11:31.000 --> 2:11:36.360 because you, know two days, Later sean got, shot you, 2:11:36.480 --> 2:11:38.920 know and you know a little bit after, That i'm 2:11:39.080 --> 2:11:42.200 To Sean. Taylor, yeah you, Know Sean. Taylor and a 2:11:42.240 --> 2:11:43.840 little bit after, that, man you get the call in 2:11:43.880 --> 2:11:46.880 the morning two, words you know from one of my. 2:11:46.960 --> 2:11:49.600 Friends he was like he, died you, know and that was. 2:11:49.680 --> 2:11:53.800 It and then so now you're on the stairs, explaining you, 2:11:53.880 --> 2:11:57.120 know explaining to your seven year old you, know when he, 2:11:57.240 --> 2:12:01.640 asked he's like you know that like and Uncle, sean you, 2:12:01.720 --> 2:12:03.600 know and so like you're dealing with the emotions of 2:12:03.760 --> 2:12:07.240 like knowing you were in a bad. Place and then 2:12:08.000 --> 2:12:12.640 and then you, know now your your friend passes and it's, 2:12:12.760 --> 2:12:15.760 killed and he's killed doing something that all of us would, 2:12:15.760 --> 2:12:17.960 do which is protecting your own you. Know and then 2:12:18.000 --> 2:12:20.480 you're watching people ON tv basically say he deserves it 2:12:20.600 --> 2:12:22.400 and say you live by the, sword you die by the, 2:12:22.400 --> 2:12:23.920 sword and all this. Stuff AND i see those, PEOPLE 2:12:24.520 --> 2:12:27.040 i see him. Now you, know they don't KNOW i hate, 2:12:27.120 --> 2:12:29.320 him BUT i. Do you KNOW i work with some 2:12:29.400 --> 2:12:31.920 of those. People oh. Damn, yeah, yeah like me and 2:12:32.040 --> 2:12:34.720 those people ain't gonna ever be. Cool they don't, know 2:12:35.160 --> 2:12:36.560 you know What i'm saying BECAUSE i try to keep. 2:12:36.600 --> 2:12:39.760 IT i try to keep it professional, enough you know 2:12:39.760 --> 2:12:42.840 What i'm saying When i'm around, Him but LIKE i 2:12:42.920 --> 2:12:45.800 got like me and you, NAH i ain't gonna never be. 2:12:45.920 --> 2:12:47.760 Nothing and SO. 2:12:49.680 --> 2:12:52.920 I think that like that's, part like that that shaped 2:12:53.640 --> 2:12:56.720 me not talking about people's. Character you know What i'm. 2:12:56.720 --> 2:13:00.760 Saying that shapes, me not talking about People's it's LIKE 2:13:00.840 --> 2:13:03.560 i knew that. Dude you, Know LIKE i love him, 2:13:03.720 --> 2:13:06.160 still you know What i'm. Saying just because he's, GONE i, 2:13:06.240 --> 2:13:08.760 MEAN i don't love him. Anymore so you would honor 2:13:08.840 --> 2:13:12.680 him in practice every day because you were a towel 2:13:12.760 --> 2:13:14.600 with this number and everything else on. It, yeah you 2:13:14.680 --> 2:13:17.080 KNOW i would. Have like In, PITTSBURGH i tried to 2:13:17.240 --> 2:13:20.400 get my jersey number. Changed they wouldn't let, me BUT 2:13:20.600 --> 2:13:24.160 i were twenty one to every, practice my game shirt that, 2:13:24.320 --> 2:13:26.720 wanted my pads had twenty one on, it my towels. 2:13:26.760 --> 2:13:30.520 Did and so you, know like when you talk about 2:13:30.560 --> 2:13:33.960 like the things That darren has has gone, THROUGH i 2:13:34.040 --> 2:13:38.160 think it's just amazing that now that story is going 2:13:38.240 --> 2:13:40.520 to inspire other people the way it inspired, you even 2:13:40.560 --> 2:13:41.840 if and you ain't got to go through the same 2:13:41.880 --> 2:13:44.440 stuff like you go through, stuff but even looking at, 2:13:44.480 --> 2:13:46.800 that you could be, like, dang but it ain't, that 2:13:47.480 --> 2:13:49.960 you know What i'm, Saying and the day you, dealing it's, like, 2:13:50.000 --> 2:13:51.800 oh but it ain't, That and so many times like 2:13:51.880 --> 2:13:54.080 that's Where i'm, At i'm, like you know, what it ain't, that. 2:13:54.320 --> 2:13:59.640 Man and we have whether we like it or, not, 2:13:59.800 --> 2:14:02.760 Bro like we have responsibilities, Now like once you take this, 2:14:02.960 --> 2:14:07.480 microphone you have a, responsibility not a responsibility to change the, 2:14:07.600 --> 2:14:11.400 world but a responsibility to be authentic enough to where 2:14:11.760 --> 2:14:14.960 doing this actually, matters you know What i'm. Saying like the, 2:14:15.120 --> 2:14:18.520 fun the, entertainment like all of that junk is important 2:14:18.520 --> 2:14:21.720 to me because that junk is going to be eventually 2:14:21.880 --> 2:14:24.400 like how we get, paid you know What i'm. Saying 2:14:24.480 --> 2:14:26.520 but like WHEN i walk, AROUND i can be one 2:14:26.600 --> 2:14:28.960 hundred percent candid about. This. Bro like WHEN i walk 2:14:29.040 --> 2:14:31.800 around and you, know LIKE i make like the white 2:14:31.840 --> 2:14:34.080 and black jokes and people get mad at, me But 2:14:34.120 --> 2:14:35.680 i'm From New orleans and like that's what it, is 2:14:36.000 --> 2:14:39.160 like light skinned jokes and all. That but like WHEN 2:14:39.200 --> 2:14:41.880 i walk, around, bro like and brothers and like black 2:14:41.960 --> 2:14:44.120 dudes come up to, me and they always, like, MAN 2:14:44.120 --> 2:14:46.840 i appreciate the way like you stand, Strong LIKE i 2:14:46.880 --> 2:14:49.880 appreciate the way that you're. AUTHENTIC i appreciate the way 2:14:49.920 --> 2:14:52.720 that you represent, us that you represent where you come. 2:14:52.800 --> 2:14:56.240 From like that matters to, me you, know because like 2:14:56.360 --> 2:14:58.800 that that is WHERE i come, From and it. Doesn't 2:14:59.080 --> 2:15:01.800 AND i hate the fact THAT i hate the fact 2:15:01.880 --> 2:15:07.480 that loving WHO i, am loving Where i'm, from loving 2:15:07.600 --> 2:15:10.800 people that look like, me that talk like, me that 2:15:11.000 --> 2:15:13.280 deal with the same things THAT i deal with and 2:15:13.400 --> 2:15:16.840 have dealt, with means to other, PEOPLE i don't love. 2:15:16.920 --> 2:15:20.320 Them you know What i'm. SAYING i think for so, 2:15:20.640 --> 2:15:23.600 long for so, long AND i know this not what 2:15:23.760 --> 2:15:26.240 this show necessarily needs to be. About for so long 2:15:26.440 --> 2:15:31.960 in this, country the people in power and the representation 2:15:32.280 --> 2:15:37.480 of loving themselves mean you mean that you thought others 2:15:37.560 --> 2:15:43.000 to be inferior loving my people doesn't MEAN i think 2:15:43.320 --> 2:15:46.440 we're superior in any. Way it just MEANS i think 2:15:46.560 --> 2:15:49.640 we are of value and of worth as, well the 2:15:49.760 --> 2:15:52.280 same WAY i think you're of, worth AND i think 2:15:52.360 --> 2:15:55.080 you're of, worth AND i think all of you of, worth, 2:15:56.080 --> 2:15:59.800 RIGHT i just think we're all of worth. Equally so 2:16:00.200 --> 2:16:03.600 in loving my, folks like that's where, like that's where 2:16:03.680 --> 2:16:04.440 you want stuff to. 2:16:04.520 --> 2:16:07.320 Go and so like you feel like like in our, 2:16:07.520 --> 2:16:08.200 job LIKE i. 2:16:08.280 --> 2:16:10.600 Don't LIKE i don't want to like you don't want 2:16:10.680 --> 2:16:13.720 to feel that, responsibility you know What i'm, Saying LIKE 2:16:13.760 --> 2:16:15.320 i don't want to be sitting in a, meeting, Bro 2:16:15.720 --> 2:16:17.280 LIKE i don't want to be ON tv With paul 2:16:17.360 --> 2:16:20.760 Finebamb and what was a very football, Question like he 2:16:20.880 --> 2:16:22.760 was talking About Eli mann and we're talking About Eli 2:16:22.840 --> 2:16:24.600 mann and not having it no more And Cam newton 2:16:24.720 --> 2:16:27.480 not having it no, more, right and That eli was 2:16:27.560 --> 2:16:29.440 like going to, retire and he said he was so, 2:16:29.760 --> 2:16:34.320 sweet elis this And eli deserves? Dad eli deserves, This 2:16:34.920 --> 2:16:38.400 AND i was, LIKE i, Agree eli deserves that for 2:16:38.520 --> 2:16:40.520 what he has is as a man and for what 2:16:40.680 --> 2:16:42.760 he did for The New York giants as a. Quarterback 2:16:43.840 --> 2:16:47.199 he deserves those Roses, paul and then he started talking About. 2:16:47.280 --> 2:16:49.600 Cam he's, like this guy has never cared about nothing but. 2:16:49.720 --> 2:16:53.360 Itself who you, Know and it's like in that moment 2:16:53.560 --> 2:16:56.400 ON tv with your, colleague like you got to make a, 2:16:56.480 --> 2:16:59.040 decision you know What i'm, Saying like you got to 2:16:59.080 --> 2:17:01.720 make a, decision like what Team i'm? On you, know 2:17:01.840 --> 2:17:04.640 because you know, It like you're on this bus and 2:17:04.720 --> 2:17:07.320 you gotta make Sure taylor looks. Good you gotta make 2:17:07.360 --> 2:17:10.200 sure your guests look, good because if you f over your, 2:17:10.280 --> 2:17:13.120 guests you're not gonna get. More you see What i'm, 2:17:13.160 --> 2:17:15.040 Saying like If taylor doesn't feel a vibe with, you 2:17:15.440 --> 2:17:17.080 like he's not gonna want to rock with you and 2:17:17.160 --> 2:17:17.320 do the. 2:17:17.400 --> 2:17:20.240 Show and you know you have a, value he has a. Value, 2:17:20.280 --> 2:17:21.320 together you'll have a bigger. 2:17:21.400 --> 2:17:23.040 Value and so Now i'm on this show With, Paul, 2:17:23.120 --> 2:17:25.080 fine BAMB i gotta make a, decision like AM i 2:17:25.160 --> 2:17:29.080 gonna shine On paul in this? Moment right and take 2:17:29.200 --> 2:17:31.320 up For cam and talk about the differences in the 2:17:31.400 --> 2:17:34.000 way that he saw these two. Men even though these 2:17:34.040 --> 2:17:36.520 two men have both been pillars of their, communities these 2:17:36.560 --> 2:17:38.440 two men have both given back in this manner of 2:17:38.520 --> 2:17:42.199 way actually one of those men has reached a team 2:17:42.280 --> 2:17:44.440 height that the other, hasn't but the other one has 2:17:44.480 --> 2:17:47.920 reached the individual height that the other one never, had you. 2:17:48.000 --> 2:17:49.880 Know and so NOW i got to explain that and 2:17:50.000 --> 2:17:52.200 do it in a way to Where i'm true to 2:17:52.320 --> 2:17:54.520 the TEAM i work with and not disrespectful to, that 2:17:54.760 --> 2:17:56.959 but also true to the PEOPLE i represent every. Day 2:17:57.200 --> 2:18:04.640 and like that's the, like that's the place you eventually 2:18:05.000 --> 2:18:09.480 get to those decisions because like it's, life, right you, 2:18:09.600 --> 2:18:12.120 Know and so like you're gonna keep moving, up, Bro 2:18:12.240 --> 2:18:15.200 like y'all gonna keep doing, things and like that's WHY 2:18:15.240 --> 2:18:17.080 i asked you that, question like do you have. 2:18:18.600 --> 2:18:21.520 Like do you ever have a way you want to 2:18:22.000 --> 2:18:22.440 steer the? 2:18:22.520 --> 2:18:27.200 Show because it's basically exactly like talking about, Football like 2:18:27.320 --> 2:18:30.480 you can't control this, seat, Right like you couldn't Control 2:18:31.080 --> 2:18:35.000 Darren waller's, Seat like you can't control junior. Seat and 2:18:35.080 --> 2:18:39.080 it's like you have to be true to. Yourself, obviously 2:18:39.200 --> 2:18:42.920 you gotta be true to your. Fans but it's also, like, 2:18:43.080 --> 2:18:45.800 man like what this person is, feeling like what this 2:18:46.000 --> 2:18:49.520 person is sharing is the REASON i invited these people 2:18:49.640 --> 2:18:54.279 on the bus is because in some ASPECT i believe 2:18:54.680 --> 2:18:58.440 that this person had something to, share, Right and that's 2:18:58.480 --> 2:19:02.000 your responsibility as a, host you but that's the responsibility 2:19:02.000 --> 2:19:06.760 as a host, Too will because it's like LIKE i 2:19:06.840 --> 2:19:09.199 came here for, you you, Know Like i'll be, HONEST 2:19:09.440 --> 2:19:12.039 i ain't have This. Tuesday you know What i'm. Saying 2:19:12.080 --> 2:19:13.080 i'm just gonna be straight. 2:19:13.160 --> 2:19:14.560 UP i know you Know i'm talking ABOUT i got 2:19:14.640 --> 2:19:16.360 the show or something like how does he figure? 2:19:16.360 --> 2:19:17.640 Out like you know What i'm, saying, LIKE i ain't 2:19:17.720 --> 2:19:19.520 have This? Tuesday so WHAT i did was, Like, okay 2:19:19.800 --> 2:19:22.360 can we meet On? Monday can we do the show On? 2:19:22.600 --> 2:19:25.240 Wednesday like you, know my old ladies Birthdays, Tomorrow i'm 2:19:25.240 --> 2:19:26.879 going To, chicago LIKE i had all this stuff going 2:19:26.920 --> 2:19:28.280 on because you, REMEMBER i was gonna try to do 2:19:28.320 --> 2:19:30.600 it In july BECAUSE i wanted to be here When 2:19:30.680 --> 2:19:32.560 taylor was, here right right, right BECAUSE i was, like, 2:19:32.640 --> 2:19:34.000 man BECAUSE i already knew said it. 2:19:33.959 --> 2:19:35.520 A certain day AND i was, like that's right after 2:19:35.560 --> 2:19:37.520 the threshold where he goes to can, Right so if you, 2:19:37.640 --> 2:19:38.640 come it'll just be me and. 2:19:38.720 --> 2:19:40.680 You i'm with. That i'm just letting you, know. 2:19:40.920 --> 2:19:42.840 Right, so but so once you said, that, though it 2:19:42.879 --> 2:19:44.520 gave me a little leeway of, Like, OKAY i don't 2:19:44.560 --> 2:19:45.680 have to rush to try to get down AND i 2:19:45.720 --> 2:19:48.280 can do. It BUT i made this happen for because of, 2:19:48.360 --> 2:19:50.840 you you know What i'm. Saying, like and BUT i 2:19:50.959 --> 2:19:53.400 feel like that's the. WAY i feel like that's the 2:19:53.480 --> 2:19:55.720 way it's supposed to. Be Man, like if you care for, 2:19:55.800 --> 2:19:59.119 somebody like if you rock with, somebody like that juncture 2:19:59.280 --> 2:20:03.680 show in your, actions, right that juncture show in the 2:20:03.800 --> 2:20:05.200 way you live life and. 2:20:05.200 --> 2:20:06.600 The way you respond and all these. 2:20:06.680 --> 2:20:10.240 Things AND i think that's, eventually that's eventually how people, 2:20:10.360 --> 2:20:12.199 win you know WHAT i? Mean, like people are gonna 2:20:12.200 --> 2:20:15.039 watch your, Show man and like other athletes and like other, 2:20:15.120 --> 2:20:17.960 people and they're gonna see damn when so and so 2:20:18.080 --> 2:20:21.400 went on this, show LIKE i love What will, bought 2:20:21.520 --> 2:20:23.720 What will. Brought so there's gonna be somebody who's dealt 2:20:23.720 --> 2:20:26.760 with things Like Darren, waller who are athletes who wanna, say, 2:20:26.800 --> 2:20:29.320 man If Will compton invites, me Like Tyron, mathew he's 2:20:29.360 --> 2:20:31.240 been through. This OH i, Know Darren, Waller me And 2:20:31.320 --> 2:20:32.920 darren at the same, guy that's the SHOW i can go. 2:20:33.000 --> 2:20:35.160 On that show is not gonna play, me, right because 2:20:35.200 --> 2:20:37.280 so many Times i've seen people go places and be, 2:20:37.440 --> 2:20:38.720 LIKE i ain't never effing with that. 2:20:38.840 --> 2:20:43.200 Again, Absolutely so, yeah, NO i definitely wanted to get 2:20:43.280 --> 2:20:45.400 be at a place to where it's one of those 2:20:45.440 --> 2:20:48.959 platforms that people use it just like this, nature whether 2:20:48.959 --> 2:20:50.960 you're having fun and you want to have entertaining like you, 2:20:51.040 --> 2:20:52.720 know be about the boys and all that, stuff or 2:20:52.760 --> 2:20:55.680 there's something of value and substance that's behind that person's 2:20:55.720 --> 2:20:58.560 story THAT i that we want to get to that 2:20:58.680 --> 2:21:00.720 brings it out and kind of irons a light on. 2:21:00.800 --> 2:21:03.240 It Darren waller being in an, EXAMPLE i, mean hell, 2:21:03.320 --> 2:21:06.120 you it's like you, know IF i post out That 2:21:06.240 --> 2:21:06.760 ryan's coming. 2:21:06.840 --> 2:21:10.280 On obviously a lot of the tier ones that we refer. 2:21:10.400 --> 2:21:14.240 To think of the one situation WHEN i know myself 2:21:14.400 --> 2:21:16.360 like he's gonna come on the bus and we're gonna 2:21:16.400 --> 2:21:19.320 have an incredible, conversation which we. Have so. 2:21:20.080 --> 2:21:22.080 DIDE i appreciate you flying in for this, thing. Man 2:21:22.800 --> 2:21:25.400 it means a, lot it. Does WHEN i first got 2:21:25.440 --> 2:21:30.720 to learn From, ryan that was twenty, Fourteen SO i 2:21:31.000 --> 2:21:36.240 had just started to start games because somebody had got, 2:21:36.320 --> 2:21:39.320 hurt and SO i THINK i might only started like 2:21:39.480 --> 2:21:40.800 five games that year with. 2:21:40.959 --> 2:21:42.240 YOU i. 2:21:45.520 --> 2:21:47.520 Was fired, up BUT i, remember LIKE i want to, 2:21:47.520 --> 2:21:50.920 say maybe it Was. Laval and now That i'm, playing you, 2:21:50.959 --> 2:21:52.720 know you're feeling a little bit more banged. Up you're 2:21:52.760 --> 2:21:55.320 like trying to learn about, recovery like always trying to 2:21:55.320 --> 2:21:57.280 be a sponge around like the vets that have been. 2:21:57.320 --> 2:21:59.920 There and he's, like, oh cuz or he called me 2:22:00.000 --> 2:22:02.320 because you call me. Nephew he's, like, Oh, becuz, Tomorrow 2:22:02.360 --> 2:22:04.760 i'll take you To uncle R C's AND i go 2:22:04.800 --> 2:22:06.440 over to THE rcs to get AN iv my first 2:22:06.480 --> 2:22:08.959 time like getting AN. Iv ryan sitting, there he's getting, 2:22:09.000 --> 2:22:11.760 this he's getting his feet massaged while he's an. 2:22:11.800 --> 2:22:14.840 Ivy no you did? That you're not Getting did you 2:22:14.959 --> 2:22:17.080 not get that kind of? Massage he wasn't even laid 2:22:17.120 --> 2:22:19.000 up on the. Table you just you just sitting on 2:22:19.080 --> 2:22:21.039 your cost the games on that, man just getting. 2:22:21.440 --> 2:22:24.280 Massage but that's WHEN i started to learn about like 2:22:24.360 --> 2:22:26.440 taking care of your body and everything. Else but, UH 2:22:27.320 --> 2:22:28.960 i mean it was it was pivotal for. Me SO 2:22:29.560 --> 2:22:31.640 i DO i appreciate you making the trip out here 2:22:31.640 --> 2:22:32.400 and coming on busting with the. 2:22:32.440 --> 2:22:35.280 Boys, no, man this was, uh this was. Good this 2:22:35.480 --> 2:22:37.760 was this was kind of. Therapeutic, Actually Like i'm gonna 2:22:37.800 --> 2:22:38.560 go home and be a better. 2:22:38.640 --> 2:22:38.920 Person. 2:22:39.000 --> 2:22:44.320 NOW i think the THING i loved about it was 2:22:45.400 --> 2:22:48.600 one we weren't in a time, limit WHICH i think 2:22:48.640 --> 2:22:50.119 you probably should have kept me on a time limit 2:22:50.160 --> 2:22:52.000 because this junk is very. Long people are gonna take 2:22:52.080 --> 2:22:55.920 six days of driving the world to actually finish, this 2:22:56.080 --> 2:22:58.640 And i'm sorry people for. That next, time If i'm invited, 2:22:58.680 --> 2:23:02.680 BACK i would be. Quicker BUT i think the huge 2:23:02.760 --> 2:23:06.920 thing is is people are, layered you, know Like shrek, 2:23:06.959 --> 2:23:09.240 said you, know he's an, Onion but Then donkey Told 2:23:09.280 --> 2:23:10.920 shrek be a, parfait because who don't like a? 2:23:10.959 --> 2:23:12.840 Parfait you? Know great? 2:23:12.879 --> 2:23:16.840 Reference, yeah and you got, kids, bro and and you 2:23:17.000 --> 2:23:19.680 allow like you allow those layers to. Unfold and SO 2:23:19.760 --> 2:23:23.400 i think people get a greater sense of who your 2:23:23.560 --> 2:23:24.760 guests are than. 2:23:24.640 --> 2:23:27.360 They, do like me being ON. Tv, right you have 2:23:27.520 --> 2:23:30.119 a little, segment you have Certain, yeah you have like thirty. 2:23:30.160 --> 2:23:32.640 Seconds so what y'all? Do man is really? 2:23:32.720 --> 2:23:35.200 Dope Tell. Tale i'll be back for. Him, yeah you, 2:23:35.320 --> 2:23:37.960 Know i'll Make you'll have. To, Yeah i'll make sure 2:23:38.040 --> 2:23:40.240 THOUGH i get at least two or three tweets out 2:23:40.240 --> 2:23:41.480 about him this, Year so tell. 2:23:41.560 --> 2:23:45.200 Him, okay all, RIGHT i Will. Man But i'm sure 2:23:45.240 --> 2:23:47.480 we'll link up, again, Bro but thank. You subscribe To 2:23:47.560 --> 2:23:50.360 bust with The boys Also Face first. Podcast how many 2:23:51.000 --> 2:23:52.000 is that something you're gonna be like? 2:23:52.080 --> 2:23:53.960 Real? Yeah, yeah so we're coming. BACK i GOT i 2:23:54.000 --> 2:23:57.880 Got James harrison this. WEEK i have Super Agent Jalen 2:23:58.000 --> 2:24:00.200 ramsey's alien. Agent Actually david mull get. 2:24:00.320 --> 2:24:03.520 On oh yeah yeah yeah seven because he's somebody who's 2:24:03.520 --> 2:24:03.800 like out. 2:24:03.840 --> 2:24:06.800 There, yeah SO i GOT i got Him nate burleson, 2:24:06.959 --> 2:24:09.720 actually which is a cool moment for. Me man At 2:24:09.800 --> 2:24:12.720 hall Of. Fame i'm just speaking saying, hello and he was, 2:24:12.800 --> 2:24:15.000 like when you're gonna have me on your? Podcast AND 2:24:15.120 --> 2:24:16.640 i was like he seems like such a good. Dude 2:24:16.760 --> 2:24:19.440 this awesome. Dude short, Story i'm, SORRY i know we. 2:24:19.600 --> 2:24:22.920 Ended we were on AN nfl network while still playing 2:24:22.920 --> 2:24:26.200 BEFORE i did MY espn, thing and he was on with, 2:24:26.320 --> 2:24:27.960 me AND i was, LIKE i was, like good for 2:24:28.080 --> 2:24:30.520 a football. Player he was at that, time good for 2:24:30.600 --> 2:24:32.920 somebody that had been doing it for ten. Years AND 2:24:33.000 --> 2:24:35.360 i remember going home and being, Like i'm never gonna 2:24:35.360 --> 2:24:37.160 be ON tv if they're gonna compare me to that. 2:24:37.280 --> 2:24:38.240 Dude he's freaking. 2:24:38.280 --> 2:24:41.640 Excellent, yeah there's another short stort and then we'll go. 2:24:42.080 --> 2:24:44.360 Podcast BUT i remember reading a story on him because 2:24:44.400 --> 2:24:46.640 he attained some award BECAUSE i you, know he was 2:24:46.720 --> 2:24:50.040 a little before me getting into the. League but, yeah 2:24:50.080 --> 2:24:53.120 he's somebody who just seems like he's authentically like just. 2:24:53.200 --> 2:24:57.119 Kind of grew climbed the. Ladder they threw his. Authenticity, 2:24:57.320 --> 2:24:57.960 bro he's amazing. 2:24:58.040 --> 2:25:01.400 Dog, yeah but face first part, Podcast Ryan. Clark subscribe 2:25:01.480 --> 2:25:04.039 rate five, stars bang the comments all day. Long, RYAN 2:25:04.040 --> 2:25:05.280 i appreciate, you brother bus. 2:25:05.400 --> 2:25:13.760 More, yeah big shout out to you. Guys if you 2:25:14.000 --> 2:25:17.960 enjoyed this episode and love and Support busting with The, 2:25:18.040 --> 2:25:22.360 boys go to whatever podcast platform you're on and subscribe to. 2:25:22.520 --> 2:25:26.000 Us leave a, review rate five. Stars if you're already, 2:25:26.040 --> 2:25:30.200 subscribed unsubscribe and resubscribe. 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