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Speaker 1: this time he's bringing friends. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski and

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Speaker 3: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a new week here on an American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition. Here in real America's voice. I'm Jake Novak.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Of course, big

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Speaker 1: And He's also the guy behind the WC dispatch on

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Speaker 1: substack again, Walter, Kurt, you should definitely subscribe to that. Walter,

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Speaker 1: A big story today. Globally, I would say this is

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Speaker 1: He's bringing some friends to You're going to be going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the key off your election.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited you're going to be with us for

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Speaker 1: What is wilder than a ride on a six Flags

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Speaker 1: roller coaster?

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Speaker 2: Well, these days the really scary ride.

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Speaker 1: Is for the folks investing in the theme park company

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Speaker 1: at all that story and moving America when an American

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Speaker 1: Sunrise early edition comes right back, It's a live look

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Speaker 1: at Atlanta, Georgia this morning. The state is probably really

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Speaker 1: focusing on high school football which started last weekend there,

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Speaker 1: and of course college coming up. Georgia Tech is in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and of course not too far from Atlanta is the

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Speaker 1: University of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I've got my.

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Speaker 1: Finger on the pulse of what's going on. I know

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Speaker 1: what people are really thinking about. They're not thinking about

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Speaker 1: the stock market in Atlanta this morning, or they should be, though.

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Speaker 2: Let's check it out.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at where the markets are going to open

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Speaker 1: this morning here as we get started on a new week,

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Speaker 1: and look at these numbers. This is a really flat market,

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Speaker 1: and I have a prediction. I don't think the markets

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Speaker 1: are going to move all that much until September and

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Speaker 1: the next FED meeting and we find out whether they

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Speaker 1: cut rates or not, whether the Jerome power finally cuts right.

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Speaker 1: That's my feeling. I feel like we've got like another

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Speaker 1: three weeks of this and we'll see where this goes.

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Speaker 1: But it really feels like the markets are waiting on stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know what's not waiting though, a bitcoin investors, Let's

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Speaker 1: take a look at where bitcoin is, because bitcoin has

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Speaker 1: moved out of that window to the downside. It's at

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Speaker 1: the one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars mark right now,

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Speaker 1: so it is broken below the one seventeen to one

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Speaker 1: twenty one window that we were basically holding at for

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Speaker 1: a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: So it's breaking lower again.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a buying opportunity for you for those of you

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Speaker 1: think it's going to go back up, and maybe a

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Speaker 1: time to sell for those of you think it's not

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Speaker 1: going to recover anytime soon. A story that I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about this morning from the world of finance

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Speaker 1: that should help you understand the world of politics is

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Speaker 1: oil prices. Oil prices are a great way, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've heard me say this on the strogram many times.

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Speaker 1: You have to look at what people with skin in

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Speaker 1: the game money in the game are doing sometimes to

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Speaker 1: really find out what the politicians.

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Speaker 2: Are really doing.

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Speaker 1: So oil is a great way to figure out how

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Speaker 1: we're going with this Ukraine Russia discussion and the whole

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Speaker 1: peace process. If the price of oil is going down,

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Speaker 1: that means that investors believe that we are closer to

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Speaker 1: either some kind of a piece deal or at least

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Speaker 1: no new sanctions on Russia. So if oil prices right

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Speaker 1: now they're basically flat, we're at the sixty three almost

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Speaker 1: sixty two dollars level on a barrel per barrel for oil.

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Speaker 1: If it breaks below sixty then you have then it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good sign that peace has probably got a

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Speaker 1: peace process that people believe in is getting started. If

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Speaker 1: it starts to surge over seventy, then there's probably little

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Speaker 1: less hope for peace. That is a really good way

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Speaker 1: to gauge. Don't listen to the folks on CNN or

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Speaker 1: in the New York Times. Look at the oil price.

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Speaker 1: That will tell you a lot more than some of

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Speaker 1: those analysts, who you know, don't really know much. All Right,

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Speaker 1: what a difference ten days makes. Ten days ago, President

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Speaker 1: Trump was demanding that the Intel CEO, a man named

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Speaker 1: Lip Bhutan, stepped down. Now the Trump administration is in

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Speaker 1: serious negotiations to buy a significant stake in Intel. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Intel is a big computer chip company. They are not

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Speaker 1: as much on the cutting edge anymore like Nvidia is,

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Speaker 1: or Advanced micro Devices or some of these other chip companies,

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Speaker 1: but it still has some very sensitive technological information that

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration does not want to get into the

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Speaker 1: hands of our enemies, namely China. Now, President Trump was

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Speaker 1: looking to get a new CEO. I think that he

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Speaker 1: probably was talking about that in order to pressure them

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Speaker 1: into seriously letting the US government take an investment in

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Speaker 1: this company because it is a national security issue. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see where this is going about. I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: investors like it. Intel shares have been going up the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days based on the news that they

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Speaker 1: may get this investment from the US government again all

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Speaker 1: in the name of national security.

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Speaker 2: But money's money, and this.

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Speaker 1: Will increase the demand four and the value of Intel shares,

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Speaker 1: so people can make some money off of that move.

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Speaker 1: Here's who's not making money right now. Six Flags, the

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Speaker 1: theme park company. They have had a really scary summer, no,

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Speaker 1: really very scary. The stock is down thirty two percent

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Speaker 1: over the last three months, forty seven percent for the

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Speaker 1: year so far.

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Speaker 2: It feels like.

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Speaker 1: Every day there is another story about in another roller

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Speaker 1: coaster breaking down while people are stuck at the top.

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Speaker 2: That happened over the weekend in.

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Speaker 1: Maryland at the Six Flags in Maryland. It's happening all

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Speaker 1: over the country. They've had construction delays and they're a

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Speaker 1: big new roller coaster at their really signature roller coaster park, Cedar.

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Speaker 2: Point in Ohio. Their new roller coaster, their Sirens curse

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Speaker 2: has been cursed.

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Speaker 1: It feels like every couple of weeks there's videos of

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Speaker 1: people getting stuck at the top of that roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: Six Flags is in trouble, folks. They haven't figured it out,

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Speaker 1: of course. However, if their stock continues to go down,

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Speaker 1: you're going to see stories in the mainstream media about

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Speaker 1: how oh, this is about the tariffs and people can't

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Speaker 1: afford to go to theme parks.

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Speaker 2: That's not the case.

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Speaker 1: The case is that their roller coasters are breaking down

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Speaker 1: and it's scary, and people don't want to go if

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to climb down from a ladder

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Speaker 1: off the top of a roller coaster.

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Speaker 2: Hot tip. That's a pro tip. All right, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: start your engines.

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Speaker 1: is the biggest buyer here. Of course, this is about tariffs,

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Speaker 1: Cliffs is going to supply this. This is going to

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cliffs is up thirty seven percent just over the

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Speaker 1: deal for Cleveland Cliffs. We're going to see more things

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Speaker 1: like this. This is an interesting move and we'll see

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Speaker 1: how many new jobs are created out of this, because

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Speaker 1: these plants are going to have to expand or at

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Speaker 2: Here's another example, by the way, in this next.

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Speaker 1: Story of why you can't believe everything you see and

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Speaker 1: hear on the internet, news flash, perhaps you saw this

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Speaker 1: viral video of an all electric Ford Mustang mach E

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Speaker 1: crashing on the highway near San Carlos, California.

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Speaker 2: Last week. This is when this video first emerged.

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Speaker 1: The story going around for days was that this crash

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Speaker 1: happened while the car was in self driving mode.

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Speaker 2: Well not so much, Chips. The Czech California.

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Speaker 1: Highway Patrol has weighed in says the driver was actually

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Speaker 1: arrested for suspected drunk driving. Oh and investigators determined the

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Speaker 1: vehicle was not in autonomous mode self driving mote. Folks

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Speaker 1: just don't believe everything you see, especially when it comes

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Speaker 1: to car chases and car crashes.

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Speaker 2: Got a wait.

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Speaker 1: For the police report and we got one there, all right, Folks,

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Speaker 1: Maybe you remember when the Chrysler three hundred sedan first

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Speaker 1: came out.

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Speaker 2: It was such a hot design. It kind of looked

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Speaker 2: like a Bentley by the way.

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Speaker 1: That was their deliberate They deliberately made it look like

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Speaker 1: a Bentley and it was a big seller for Chrysler.

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Speaker 1: Those were the Jurgen Shremp days. Remember Urgen Shremp, the

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Speaker 1: guy who was also the CEO of Daimler when Daimler

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Speaker 1: Benz owned Chrysler back in the day, and they had

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Speaker 1: some really nice looking cars.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how reliable they were.

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Speaker 1: But the PT Cruiser, the Dodge with the Hemi, the

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Speaker 1: Dodge Ram trucks, and of course the Chrysler three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Well Stillantis, which is the owner of Chrysler Jeep. Dodge

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Speaker 1: now says it's going to bring back the three hundred,

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Speaker 1: probably in time for the twenty twenty six model years,

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Speaker 1: so just around the corner one catch, however, and you knew.

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Speaker 2: This was coming.

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Speaker 1: The New Crisis three hundred will probably only be available

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Speaker 1: as an EV sorry, folks, but it is a nice

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Speaker 1: looking car. Okay, Let's talk about something that is already

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Speaker 1: available right now, and that is the very gas only

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Speaker 1: powered for GTMK four and Ford says that so many

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Speaker 1: performance improvements have been made on this amazing car that

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Speaker 1: non professional drivers are now setting quicker lap times around

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Speaker 1: was first introduced a few years ago. That's how performance

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Speaker 1: minded this car is. Even an amateur like you and

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Speaker 1: me can get really amazing lap times. The car debuted

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. Ford announced Friday that a few dozen

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Speaker 1: are still available, but you can expect to pay. A

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Speaker 1: used twenty twenty three model just sold in Florida for

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Speaker 1: one point nine million dollars. It only had three miles

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Speaker 1: on the odometer. Who buys that kind of a car

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Speaker 1: and only puts three miles on it? That just sounds

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Speaker 1: like a lot of fun missed. There you go, that's

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Speaker 1: a car you can get. Okay, coming up? Has all

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Speaker 1: reason and logic been driven out of our political and

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Speaker 1: academic discourse in America. One of America's most important voices

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Speaker 1: on all of that is about to join us to

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Speaker 1: discuss it. And it isn't just intellectual discourse. What about

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Speaker 1: formal dress at work in decent fashion that also seems

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Speaker 1: to be extinct. As we await Ukrainian President Zelenski's return

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Speaker 1: to the White House today, I'm continuing my look and

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Speaker 1: giving you a look at the top formal fashions for men.

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Speaker 1: I think these are for men. These are some of

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Speaker 1: the offerings from Versace. I wonder what do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is what Zelenski will choose. American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, August eighteenth, Theory, This morning's top stories. He's

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Speaker 1: coming back, and this time he's bringing friends. Ukrainian President

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Speaker 1: Vlotimir Zelenski and some of Europe's top leaders are headed

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Speaker 1: to the White House.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: The discussed the next steps after the Trump Putin summit

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Speaker 1: on Friday. Will an actual peace process for Russia and

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Speaker 1: Ukraine be able to move forward?

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Speaker 2: And what is Aelenski gonna wear? Come on, we you

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Speaker 2: know we're all thinking about that, aren't we.

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Speaker 1: Hey, More states are stepping up to help President Trump's

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Speaker 1: efforts to crack down on crime and vandalism in.

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Speaker 2: Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: The governors of South Carolina, West Virginia, and even Ohio

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Speaker 1: are all in on the plan and sending their own

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Speaker 1: National Guard troops to relieve the DC troops who've been

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Speaker 1: patrolling the streets for a few days. Hurricane Aaron, we've

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Speaker 1: been watching it has been downgraded to category three, but

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Speaker 1: is expected to get back to a category five pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the US virgin Islands and Puerto Rico are

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Speaker 1: under a flood watch, and a federal grand jury has

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Speaker 1: charged New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell with misuse of taxpayer

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Speaker 1: money in connection with an alleged affair with her bodyguard.

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Speaker 1: And that's just one of the counts against her. American

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Speaker 1: Sunrise Early Edition continues now. Welcome back to American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition Special. Welcome to those of you in the

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Speaker 1: Getter and the Rumble Chats watching on those platforms and commenting.

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Speaker 2: The days of passive news watching.

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Speaker 1: Are long over. Thank you so much for commenting. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually reading them. Even when I get criticized. Believe me,

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Speaker 1: I can take it. So that's important to remember. Joining

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Speaker 1: us right now however, is a very very special guest.

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Speaker 1: He is Professor Robbie George of Princeton Universities, the McCormick Professors. Also,

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Speaker 1: he runs the James Madison Program at that university, and

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Speaker 1: he's also the author.

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Speaker 2: Of a brand new book. It's called Seeking Truth and

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Speaker 2: Speaking Truth.

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Speaker 1: You can get it on all the online booksellers or

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Speaker 1: look for it in a bookstore as well. If you

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Speaker 1: enjoy going to bookstores like I do and actually touching

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Speaker 1: and feeling books, that's another thing you can do in America.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that isn't going away. And you know, let's get

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Speaker 2: into this because.

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Speaker 1: Professor George, I want to talk about your profession really

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Speaker 1: to get started, because it feels like speaking truth, reads,

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Speaker 1: our arguments and debate it's based on reason, are now

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Speaker 1: being threatened in the world of academy. We just talked

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Speaker 1: about it earlier in the program. That new survey of

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Speaker 1: college students a huge percentage of them saying that they

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Speaker 1: are not telling the truth about their real views because

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Speaker 1: they're worried about their grades being affected or their social

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Speaker 1: status being affected in their classes. The university should be

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Speaker 1: the setting where we have the most reason based arguments

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Speaker 1: and the most academic debates.

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Speaker 2: But that's really in trouble, now, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: That certainly is first, Oh, Jake, I just want to

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Speaker 6: say what a pleasure it is to be on with you.

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Speaker 6: Our families, the Novak's and the Georgia's, go back a

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Speaker 6: long way together. Your father's one of my most beloved

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Speaker 6: academic friends and a scholar I admire enormously, So it's

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Speaker 6: great to be on. Yeah. I mean, here's what we're

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Speaker 6: facing today in academic life, even in generally in social life.

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Speaker 6: So many of our people, especially but not exclusively, our

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Speaker 6: young people suppose that there's your truth and you have that,

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Speaker 6: and there's my truth and I have that. But there's

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Speaker 6: no such thing as the truth. There's just your truth

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Speaker 6: and my truth. This casual relativism can seem harmless at

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Speaker 6: the beginning, but it's actually anything but harmless. We need

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Speaker 6: to restore the faith of people, including young people, in

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Speaker 6: the idea that there is a truth, and it's worth

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Speaker 6: working and struggling. It's hard to do, but it's worth

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Speaker 6: struggling to get at the truth because living in touch

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Speaker 6: with reality, making policy in line with reality, living our

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Speaker 6: personal lives in line with reality, really is critically important.

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Speaker 6: If we don't do that, we're on our way to disaster.

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Speaker 6: So we need to get back to the idea that

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Speaker 6: there's a truth that should be given a priority. Maybe

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Speaker 6: hard to get to, we can never get there fully,

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Speaker 6: but it's our task to strive for it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wonder how much of this has to

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Speaker 2: do with feelings.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I hear people say my truth and

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Speaker 1: your truth, this doesn't sound to me like someone is

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Speaker 1: necessarily delusional. You know, I'm not a psychiatrist, I can't

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Speaker 1: exactly say that for sure, but it feels more like, well,

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Speaker 1: they're not really denying that there is a truth, but

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Speaker 1: we've decided that we're not going to discuss it because

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Speaker 1: it might hurt the feelings of those who hear it.

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Speaker 2: And I know you've taught courses at Princeton over.

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Speaker 1: The years where students were very emotionally affected by the coursework,

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Speaker 1: for example, classes on family law and things like that.

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Speaker 2: And look, I'm not saying that it's easy.

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Speaker 1: Necessarily for everyone to experience this, but we can't be

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Speaker 1: afraid to talk about issues because it may affect people emotionally.

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Speaker 1: And so that's my big segue. Look, you're not just

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Speaker 1: a professor. You're also a legal scholar.

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Speaker 2: You were.

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Speaker 1: A clerk at the US Supreme Court during the time

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Speaker 1: that Roe v. Wade was decided. So again, when I

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Speaker 1: talk about emotions, can there be anything more emotional than abortion?

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Speaker 1: Discussing abortion in America it feels like one of the things.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously a major issue here in this country. But boy,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I try to avoid discussing

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Speaker 1: it as much as possible because people are so emo

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Speaker 1: potionally triggered by it one way or the other, whether

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Speaker 1: call them.

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Speaker 6: Well, I have no choice butit to talk about that

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Speaker 6: issue and other issues, including issues of marriage and sexuality

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Speaker 6: and family, because it's my job as a teacher of

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Speaker 6: civil liberties and a moral and political philosophy and of

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Speaker 6: constitutional interpretation. I was actually at the Court many years

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Speaker 6: after Roe was decided. I a judicial fellow working for

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Speaker 6: then a Chief Justice Rehnquist in the late nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 6: but the question of whether Roe would be overturned was

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Speaker 6: very much in the air even back then. That has

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Speaker 6: since then, of course, happened. We had all the hot

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Speaker 6: button issues coming before the court now we're going to

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Speaker 6: resolve those as a society more or less. Well, we're

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Speaker 6: going to resolve those as a society better or worse.

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Speaker 6: The only hope we have at resolving them in a

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Speaker 6: talk about them, if we think about them critically, if

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Speaker 6: we exchange ideas, and we can't be afraid that we're

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Speaker 6: going to hurt people's feelings. The stakes are too high. Jay,

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Speaker 6: Just consider this. For example, I know that in any

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Speaker 6: class ITA training a group of young people on with,

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Speaker 6: they're going to be people who are from all sorts

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Speaker 6: of family backgrounds. People whose parents were never married, people

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Speaker 6: whose parents were married but they're divorced. People are in

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Speaker 6: all kinds of situations. But we're gonna have to talk

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Speaker 6: about family. We're gonna have to talk about sexuality for

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Speaker 6: this reason. The reality is that a great many of

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Speaker 6: our social problems, some of our most fundamental social problems,

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Speaker 6: stem from the collapse of the family over the past

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Speaker 6: five decades. And if we're gonna do anything about that,

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Speaker 6: if we're going to raise people up out of the

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Speaker 6: abject conditions they're in as a result of family breakdown

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Speaker 6: and failures of family formation, we're going to have to

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Speaker 6: some sensitivity, of course, always in a spirit of kindness

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Speaker 6: issues and discussing them plainly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, getting into those tough, emotionally charged conversations. I wonder

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Speaker 1: one of the things that I use, and I wonder

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Speaker 1: if more.

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Speaker 2: People do this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you do it too, sometimes not in a classroom

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Speaker 1: because you have a job to do, but maybe in

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Speaker 1: social settings. One of the ways one of the escape

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Speaker 1: hatches people have to get out of a dicey, emotionally

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Speaker 1: charged political conversation is to say something along the lines

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Speaker 1: of like, well, I wish we had better candidates.

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Speaker 2: That's an easy out.

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Speaker 1: Almost everyone can agree with that, or at least maybe

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Speaker 1: if they're not that aggressive, they'll leave you alone after

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Speaker 1: you say that. But one of the funny things about that,

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Speaker 1: and it's not that funny, but it's certainly sad. It's

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Speaker 1: actually sad, is that I don't think that we can

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Speaker 1: really argue in this country anymore when people ask, well,

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Speaker 1: I wish we had better candidates all the time, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think that it's not even it's not a question.

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Speaker 1: The question isn't why don't better people run? I think

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Speaker 1: the question is why isn't every single criminal and morally

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Speaker 1: decrepit individual in America not running?

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Speaker 2: It feels like the way that the system is set

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Speaker 2: up in this country for politics is an absolute master

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Speaker 2: for the absolutely worst people in the world. But here's

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Speaker 2: the hook. This shouldn't surprise us. I mean, we have

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Speaker 2: people in the Bible.

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Speaker 1: We have people in ancient Greek philosophers from Plato and

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Speaker 1: also again earlier than Plato in the Bible, all telling us,

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Speaker 1: not just warning us, but actually telling us, like it

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Speaker 1: was back then thousands of years ago, that kings and

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Speaker 1: political leaders are extremely likely.

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Speaker 2: To be bad human beings.

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Speaker 1: How can we have great discourse in this country when

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Speaker 1: the people who are looking to be our leaders for

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Speaker 1: thousands of years have basically been bad people until proven otherwise.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, Jake, human nature does not change. We're all

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Speaker 6: made out of the same stuff, you know, flesh and

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Speaker 6: bone and blood. We're all given to the same temptations,

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Speaker 6: we're all imperfect. In the Christian tradition, we have the

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Speaker 6: concept of original sin. You don't have that exact concept

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Speaker 6: in the Jewish tradition or in other great religon traditions,

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Speaker 6: but all great religious traditions recognize that human nature is flawed.

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Speaker 6: We are imperfect. Now, there are better people and worse people.

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Speaker 6: People make themselves better or worse by their choices and actions.

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Speaker 6: That's a great insight that we have from Aristotle and

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Speaker 6: some of the other great Greek thinkers of antiquity who've

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Speaker 6: thought about how virtue and vice come into being in

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Speaker 6: human lives. But we're going to have to work with

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Speaker 6: the material we have. We can't imagine that there are

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Speaker 6: somewhere out there perfect people, and if we could only

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Speaker 6: find them and make them the kings and the rulers,

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Speaker 6: everything would be okay. We've got to work with what

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Speaker 6: we've got now. The American founders had an ingenious idea

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Speaker 6: about that Jake. They said, given the facts of human nature,

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Speaker 6: you can read this in Federalist Paper number ten by

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Speaker 6: James Madison. Given the fallenness, the frailty, the fallibility of people,

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Speaker 6: given the fact that we are so badly imperfect, what

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Speaker 6: we need to do is structure government so that anybody

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Speaker 6: exercising power is always accountable to somebody else or some other.

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Speaker 6: There is no such thing as unchecked power, and that's

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Speaker 6: what gave our republic under our constitution, for example, our

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Speaker 6: system of the separation of powers, what Americans learned in

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Speaker 6: Civics class in terms of checks and balances that give

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Speaker 6: us the distinction between a national government as a government

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Speaker 6: of delegated and enumerated powers and state governments as governments

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Speaker 6: and general jurisdiction exercising general authority what are called police

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Speaker 6: powers to protect public health, safety, and morals. Now you

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Speaker 6: have a different system up there in Canada, of course

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Speaker 6: you have a parliamentary model. But whatever your cultural and

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Speaker 6: historical circumstances are, we need to be thinking about how

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Speaker 6: to make sure that power is accountable because it will

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Speaker 6: be always exercised by frail, fallun fallible, imperfect human beings.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's amazing that you say that, because again, I

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Speaker 1: think that we are living through the most accountable presidency

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Speaker 1: in American history. Love them or hate President Trump. He

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Speaker 1: tells you what he's thinking all the time. There's very

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Speaker 1: little hidden agenda. He's obviously challenged on everything he does

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Speaker 1: all the time by so many different institutions in this country.

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Speaker 1: It is the most accountable presidency. People can who hate

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Speaker 1: President Trump can say they don't like any of that,

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Speaker 1: but that is really undeniable. Obviously, there's so much more

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Speaker 1: that we could talk about, but folks do a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. First of all, get the new book by

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Speaker 1: Professor George. But also you can follow him on.

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Speaker 2: X it's at McCormick profit.

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Speaker 1: It's an incredible account, not something that you usually see

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Speaker 1: on social media as far as the strength of what

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Speaker 1: he's writing regularly. Usually people like us don't do that.

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Speaker 1: But I really appreciate that you have that, and we'll

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Speaker 1: hopefully have you on again. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: talking about some of these issues with us this morning.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Jake. Blessings to you, and my love to

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Speaker 6: your mom and dad.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. Oh we're gonna come back

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Speaker 2: in just a moment. We're gonna go live to our.

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Speaker 1: Brand News studio in Washington, DC, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: continue this discussion with Brian Glenn about what fashions Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Zelensky should choose if he's gonna address up.

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Speaker 2: Finally, here is Gucci.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I've been showing all these fashions, I

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Speaker 1: think again, I think this is men's fashion.

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Speaker 2: Actually, this looks pretty traditional.

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Speaker 1: Here's some great choices for Ladimirzeliinsky. That tie is ridiculously long,

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Speaker 1: but hey, we'll give him a break on that. Brian Glenn,

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Speaker 1: the man who asked Lensky about his dressing down the

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Speaker 1: last time he came to the White House, is going

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Speaker 1: to join us American Sunrise.

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Speaker 2: Earlier this She'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: We have a nice breeze going in DC this morning.

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Speaker 1: That's good news for Brian Glenn, who's going to be

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Speaker 1: joining us in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Let's just get right to him.

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Speaker 1: You know, all throughout the morning, I've been showing you

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Speaker 1: some fashion options for Ladimir.

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Speaker 2: Zelinsky as he comes to the White House.

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Speaker 1: If you think this is just a joke, if you

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Speaker 1: think I'm just kidding around, this is actually really an

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Speaker 1: important international story. Brian Glenn again joining us from our

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Speaker 1: brand new RAV studio in Washington, d C. Brian was

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Speaker 1: the one who made what Vladimerzelinski wears into something We

909
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Speaker 1: were whispering about it. It was something that people were

910
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Speaker 1: kind of chatting about behind the scenes. But as soon

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Speaker 1: as you asked him, Brian, hey, you know, why don't

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Speaker 1: you wear a suit that I'm paraphrasing your question, Then

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Speaker 1: people started talking about it more openly. So you were

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Speaker 1: telling me off the air like this is actually a

915
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Speaker 1: big speculation right now. There's a lot of betting on this,

916
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Speaker 1: and I'm not joking. What and you and you have

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Speaker 1: a prediction about what to expect from from Vladimir Zelinski

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Speaker 1: when he steps out of that cart at one pm today?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it u shortly after one o'clock when

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Speaker 8: he arrives at the West Wing. Jake, we're going the

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Speaker 8: world's going to know whether or not President Zelensky wore

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Speaker 8: suit or not. Now I'm I'm betting on that he will,

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Speaker 8: and only because I've seen a lot of reports and

924
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Speaker 8: I can't verify sources on this, but Axios just released

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Speaker 8: a statement saying that the White House requested Zelensky to

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Speaker 8: wear a suit for his meeting with Trump. So we'll

927
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Speaker 8: see what happens. But it's really interesting, Jake, to see

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Speaker 8: what is the definition of a suit. It kind of

929
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Speaker 8: takes me back to the funeral with the Pope because

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Speaker 8: what he had on was a jacket style garment but

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Speaker 8: didn't quite fit the category of what a suit, traditional

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Speaker 8: suit would look like. So I think today and you've

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Speaker 8: done a great job showing us some examples of these

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Speaker 8: various suits. I think we see Zelensky in a traditional suit.

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Speaker 8: I mean something like I would be wearing right now.

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Speaker 8: Maybe something better, that's his words. Last time to meet,

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Speaker 8: but we'll see shortly after one o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, right now, we got Gucci on and

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of these fashions. I've been showing there

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Speaker 1: a little bit out there, to say the least. I

941
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Speaker 1: also have rap me, so I saved the best for

942
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Speaker 1: last Brian. I got Ralph Lauren. You always know you're

943
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Speaker 1: going to get a traditional look from Ralph Lauren.

944
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Speaker 2: So we had that. There you go.

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Speaker 1: Now that No, now I don't expect them to come

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Speaker 1: out looking like that, but these are a little bit

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Speaker 1: more traditional some of these. Yeah, you know, a tuxedo,

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Speaker 1: that would be something though, that's an evening. They look

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Speaker 1: at that now now you're talking. That would be something

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Speaker 1: that I did President Trump with respect. You know, I

951
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Speaker 1: used to run Larry Kudlow's programs, and Larry Kudlow was always,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically still is the best dressed guy in

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Speaker 1: television news. And that was one of the first things

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Speaker 1: that President Jrue said about him when he put him

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Speaker 1: on the staff. So I mean, you know, this is

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Speaker 1: an important to an important issue for President Trump. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, there's actually some history here to talk

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Speaker 1: about people and how they dress is, you know, is

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Speaker 1: a political statement. And I remember reading a history about

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Speaker 1: Mahatma Gandhi coming to Great Britain for the first time

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Speaker 1: after he became the leader for independence for India, and

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Speaker 1: the big question is would he wear a super Remember

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Speaker 1: he was an attorney in South Africa as a young man.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't always wearing the traditional Indian dress, and he's

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Speaker 1: sure enough he showed up at ten Downing Street wearing

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Speaker 1: the traditional Indian dress as a sign of pride. But

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Speaker 1: for him it wasn't a costume. He wasn't pretending. He

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Speaker 1: was really a leader who put his life on the

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Speaker 1: line for his people. So I think that there's something

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Speaker 1: to it. So maybe Zelenski's trying to play that game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he really pulled it off.

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Speaker 8: Now I don't think you did. You know they say

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Speaker 8: that what he was wearing is because they're in a

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Speaker 8: time of war and that's what he wears. And I said, well,

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Speaker 8: the war's not here. The war is four thousand miles

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Speaker 8: away from Washington, d C. I'll go back. I think

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Speaker 8: he wears a traditional suit, a black suit, or a

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Speaker 8: dark blue suit, a navy suit, if you will. I

979
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Speaker 8: think he goes in the dark on the lighter shades

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Speaker 8: of that. Now here's a big question here. Does he

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Speaker 8: wear a tie? Because he has been he has been

982
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Speaker 8: seen in a suit jacket before with no tie. So

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Speaker 8: I'll ask you, Jake, and maybe we asked our viewers,

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Speaker 8: do you have to have a tie on to complete

985
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Speaker 8: the image of wearing a suit. Maybe that's another discussion

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Speaker 8: that the fashion gurus could have. Yeah, I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you look at yeah, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it all right, Yeah, we're looking forward

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Speaker 1: to you joined the American Sun Raise the next couple

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Speaker 1: of hours.

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Speaker 2: Early edition comes back right tomorrow. Thank you.