1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Thanks for being here on Clay and 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Buck with us just Buck. Today Clay is out doing 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: an event with tunnelf of Towers. He'll be back in tomorrow. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: So we're talking about what is still occurring, very much 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: still occurring in Israel and Gaza right now. There have 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: been major Israeli retaliatory air strikes. You have over nine 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: hundred confirmed dead in Israel. You have Joe Biden speaking 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: at one o'clock today. I mean this without it being 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: about petty partisan politics. When something like this happens, it's 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: a reminder that you don't want a commander in chief 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: who inspires zero confidence in any person who's being honest 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: to handle the situation, to project strength, to make it 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: seem like he has command end of the facts and 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: what's really going on here. It is my belief right 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: now it is likely that this conflict will stay largely 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: in the arena of Gaza and its environs. There might 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: be a heezible a component to this out of Lebanon 19 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: and perhaps even Iran, which would create a true regional war. 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that is likely, but it is possible, 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: and it is a concern. It's something we have to 22 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: watch and our leadership, we will have to rely on 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: them to prevent something like that from happening, from this 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: turning into an even broader conflagration. Now you've also seen 25 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: something around the world that is a tragic and enraging 26 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: reminder for all of us, which is the spread of 27 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: and the very real existence far beyond what I think 28 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people understand. I think it's at a 29 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: much higher level than many of us recognize. Having spent 30 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: time in the you know, I grew up in New 31 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: York City and I spent a good amount of time 32 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Anti Semitism there is still it's endemic. 33 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: It's far too common. It's it's a global phenomenon. And 34 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: you see this with this this group, for example, you 35 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: can imagine what's going on here. I have a I 36 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: have seen some things in my life, not as much 37 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: as some of the war fighters listening by any means, 38 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: but I've seen stuff. I've I've I've been in war zones, 39 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: and I have an understanding of how depraved and awful 40 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: and evil things can get. Even anybody with some shred 41 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: of decency would understand that given what has happened here 42 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: in Israel, basic human impulse would be sympathy for the victims. Right. 43 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: If that isn't the impulse, there's something wrong the circuitry 44 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: of I know, you say the heart, but it's really 45 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: the circuitry of the brain. Something is off in people. 46 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: There is an illness, a mental virus that would bring 47 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: somebody to say anything like what we've heard in a 48 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: number of places around the world, including in New York City, 49 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: my hometown. Some of those protesters. Now we've seen the 50 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: brutal murder of men, women and children, including babies. This 51 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: is confirmed now is this is not a missile strike 52 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: that caved in a house and there were casualties inside 53 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: the house, which is obviously still terrible and tragic, and 54 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: people dying. This is the up close decision to engage 55 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: in barbarous buthuri of human beings as some kind of 56 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: a military or militant force for hamas they trained for this. 57 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: As we know, that's what's gone on here, and yet 58 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: you will hear in a place like Sydney as far 59 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: around the world as Sydney, Australia. Here is what protesters 60 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: they are pro Palestinian. They seem to be mostly Arab. 61 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: If you look at the the video of this, here 62 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: is what they are chanting in the aftermath of this planet. Okay, 63 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: you get it, you get it. They are chanting, chanting 64 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: burn the Jews a lahuac bar, which that means God 65 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: is great. You know, I this this part of my 66 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: brain that used to be so focused on jihadism. This 67 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: is what I spent my twenties doing. This is what 68 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I spent years of my life focused on. It's been 69 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: it's been a little quiet for a while because we 70 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: haven't had thank you, Donald Trump and the destruction of ISIS. 71 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: We haven't had a major jihattist moment really in a 72 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: few years, not the same way you could say Afghanistan 73 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: and the Biden withdrawal, but that was, you know, twenty 74 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: years unfortunately in the making, and that was a Biden blunder. 75 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: But when you hear people chanting something like this at 76 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: this moment in time, it is just the proof of 77 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: the level of hatred that they have. You know, you'll 78 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: hear in the discourse in colleges and universities, You'll you'll 79 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: hear professors that will try to explain this in some 80 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: sort of intellectual terms. You'll you'll hear people say, oh, 81 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: but this is really about ending oppression, or this is 82 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: really about what the Palestinians call all Knakba, the catastrophe 83 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: when they lost after an attempted invasion and eradication of 84 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: the Jews at the foundation or the early days of 85 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: the Jewish state. You know, this goes back to that, 86 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, historical some kind of historical anchoring for the 87 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: conflict now as a means to turn your eyes away 88 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: from what you can see so plainly, and you have 89 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: to also remember Hamas wanted it this way. They wanted 90 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: people to see this level of atrocity. This was a choice. 91 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: It's not like they were hiding it and we've just 92 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: discovered it. They wanted everyone to know. This is just 93 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: like al Qaeda putting people in orange jumpsuits and slowly 94 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: song off their heads on video. The ultimate inhumanity and evil. 95 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: That is what but the Israeli Defense forces are up against. 96 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: And that is why our alliance with Israel right now 97 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: is a basic moral duty. This isn't just about strategic 98 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: implications in the Middle East. This isn't some policy paper 99 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: in a think tank. This is about our basic duty 100 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: as human beings to understand right versus wrong, and yet 101 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: many of the same entities that you would imagine somehow 102 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: fine means to make this a moment of the most 103 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: insane moral inversion of this was put out the Black 104 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Lives Matter grassroots statement in solidarity with the Palestinian people. 105 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: That's right, a solidarity statement with the Palestinian people. Right now, 106 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: you have at the University of Virginia. I was trying 107 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: to find this University of Virginia. You have another statement 108 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: that was put out by I mean, this is a 109 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of these universities. They have been brainwashed into thinking 110 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: that this is the real language that they use. Just 111 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: to be clear, in left wing circles, and I remember 112 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: this from my time in college and some of the 113 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: professors that I studied under, they refer to this as apartheid. 114 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: So they try to take the moral clarity of ending 115 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: a you know, a race based hierarchical state as existed 116 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: in South Africa and compare that to Israel and Palestine. 117 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: That's their preferred terminology for this. They'll talk about it 118 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: as an apartheid state because then they think they have 119 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: the moral high ground for any for anything, any level 120 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: of terrorism is justified, you see. But this all falls 121 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: apart with the most Rudi men tree, not just analysis, 122 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: basic knowledge of what's going on. There are over a 123 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: million Arabs living happily in the state of Israel. There 124 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: are people of many different races all over the world. 125 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: They're Ethiopian Jews. I mean, there are people living in 126 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Israel in peace and prosperity and with the protection of 127 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: the laws who are not Jewish, who are not white. 128 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: But what the left is done is force this into 129 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: the usual racial Marxism rubric right of you have an 130 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: oppressor and depressed, and whatever the oppressed have to do 131 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: to take the boot heel of the oppressor off their 132 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: neck is inherently justified. And whether you look at this 133 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: historically in Soviet Union, Communist China, Cambodia under the Khmura Rouge, 134 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: that simple formulation of whatever we have to do to 135 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: end depression is justified has led to some of the 136 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: greatest evils the world, that really the greatest evils the 137 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: world has ever seen. And you're seeing that numerically on 138 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: a smaller scale, but in terms of the depravity at 139 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: the very same level right now in Israel or in 140 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: Israel's response to what's going on here is something that 141 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: is rooted in an understanding of the level of evil 142 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: and Hamas and Kaza that's what you see going on here, 143 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they did the attacks in Israel 144 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: proper right now, they've taken back that territory. And when 145 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: you read some of the accounts of what people were 146 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: put through, there is no circumstance under which and I 147 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: told you about some of the most depraved stuff, I mean, 148 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: the beheadings, is this is the stuff of nightmares, of 149 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: true nightmares, because it does not get more evil than 150 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: what these Hamas militants did. But even when you look 151 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: at the the festival, for example, there were the music 152 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: festival that was in the Negev Desert area, very close 153 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: to the border with Gaza, and they came in on 154 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: these these gliders. They had been practicing this now the 155 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: videos are out. They've been practicing this for a long time. 156 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: This is how they got over the barrier. So they 157 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: sent the gliders over the barrier, established a militant force 158 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: inside of Israel Proper, and then united with a specific 159 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: force designed to attack, you know, the fence to the wall. 160 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: Those forces to have a breakthrough there, and this was 161 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: the basic way that they while they were also firing rockets. 162 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: It was a multi and then they came by sea 163 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: in some places, I mean it was a many. I 164 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: think there were twenty two different places where there was 165 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: an insertion of forces. But they went to a music 166 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: festival and they just murdered people, and they took hostages, 167 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: but they just went around shooting people. No decent human 168 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: being could pull the trig and murder somebody at a 169 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: music festival because of any political credo, ideology, anything. It 170 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: is the abdication of the thing that makes us human, 171 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: the thing that separates us from evil, the thing that 172 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: makes us, you know, worthy of God's love, our basic 173 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: decency toward each other. It is the casting off, the 174 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: abandonment of that. And when you read these stories and 175 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you hear about what happened, you find yourself just in 176 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: a state of disbelief for a moment. But I think 177 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: it's important that we focus in on this at this 178 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: time because it also means it would also allows us 179 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: to understand why the response is so necessary and why 180 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: the level of response is going to be something that 181 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to hear a lot of human 182 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: rights groups and the usual leftist u n you know, 183 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: agit prop about all. The Israeli response is disproportionate, a 184 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: disproportionate response to this. You start to wonder if they 185 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: don't hunt down every single member of Hamas. It feels 186 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: like it's not proportionate, you know, it's not severe enough. 187 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: That's the baseline here, that's the baseline for what we 188 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: see happening. So we'll come back into some of this. Also. 189 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Do want to talk to you about some stories and politics. 190 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in the next hour. 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Well, 220 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: it looks like it's tough to wake Biden up from 221 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: naptime because once again they have moved back this address 222 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: to the nation about the Hamas terror attack on Israel, 223 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: which I should note there are some who are saying 224 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the specific Israeli source, but saying 225 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: that this is their nine to eleven. So clearly a 226 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: massive shock to the state of Israel. And as we've 227 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: been talking, what will continue to talk about it more 228 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: in the third hour. I did want to speak a 229 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: little bit about politics though for a moment, you know, 230 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: here at home, because I think this is fascinating because 231 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: I remember and those of you who listen to the 232 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: show daily, we love you for listening. If you can 233 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: listen daily or once a week, whenever you can listen. 234 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: But daily's best. Daily three hours, that's the preferred that's 235 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the recommended dosage of Clay and Buck is daily for 236 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: three hours. But you know, an hour is okay, we'll 237 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: take that won't get quite the same effect as the 238 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: full three hours. But you'll recall I was the skeptical 239 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: one about RFK Junior, right, I've been skeptical about RFK 240 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Junior from the beginning. He's a Democrat, and I have 241 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: this when you're talking about Democrat politicians, I have this 242 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: very straightforward principle that I apply, which is. 243 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: Can't trust him, can't trust him, and they can be 244 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: right on some things, as RFK Junior is correct on 245 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: coronavirus response. 246 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Interesting to see what he thinks about all vaccines and 247 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: everything else. That's that's another layer of the debate, another 248 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: layer of the discussion. But he's right that Fauci was 249 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: a horrible tyrant and a bureaucratic nightmare for the country, 250 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: and he has said some interesting things on the border. 251 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: Well. 252 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Now that he's launching his third party candidacy, it is 253 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch people on both sides, Democrat and Republican, 254 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: argue over who he is going to take more votes from. 255 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: A chance that RFK Junior is going to be President 256 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: of the United States is I can't say zero, but 257 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: I would put it at less than one percent right. 258 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: It would be the craziest thing. RFK Junior winning the 259 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: presidency as a third party candidate would be orders of magnitude, 260 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: bigger shock than Donald Trump defeating Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, 261 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: and I walked around for a few days after that 262 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: like we had been hit by an asteroid, but you 263 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: know in a good way, right, or just some crazy 264 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: event had happened. You know, we had discovered intelligent life 265 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: on a foreign planet. Turns out they were really cool 266 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: and just wanted to hang out with us. It was 267 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: an amazing time. Right after Trump's election in twenty sixteen, 268 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: and walking around New York City, it felt like everybody 269 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: who had voted against Trump was in such a state 270 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: of shock. But it would be a bigger shock than 271 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: that if RFK Junior won that I am comfortable saying 272 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: it would be the craziest election situation. I don't know, 273 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe in the history of the country. So unlikely he's 274 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: going to win, is the point. So then it turns 275 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: into why is he running? Well, I think he's running 276 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: for reasons of I will say, reasons of ego. Sure, Now, 277 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: that's not really a put down. It's not a put down. 278 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: All politicians run out of some degree of the belief 279 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: that their voice and their judgment and what they bring 280 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: to the table is special and unique and important enough 281 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: that they should be given power instead of other people. 282 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: That the people should vote for them and that they 283 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: should be the ones that move forward on this. But 284 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: in RFK Junior's case, I think it's also a partially 285 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: getting his voice into the mix here on issues like health, 286 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: issues like corporatism. Fine, but what's the political reality of 287 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: his running? What is that really going to do? I 288 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: bring you to the Washington Post reporting here Attorney Robert F. 289 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior's pivot Monday to an independent run for president 290 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: met immediate resistance from Republican leaders, who have concluded that 291 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: his new effort threatens to cannibalize their vote share next year, 292 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: helping to re elect President Biden. I thought this all along, 293 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: and this is why even early on I kept telling 294 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: everybody I like him on a few issues, but ultimately 295 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: he's a Democrat, and the people who were really excited 296 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: about him were Republicans. There was a brief moment in 297 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: time where they showed some poll that the Democrats twenty 298 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: percent of Democrats something like that, like RFK Junior. Yeah, 299 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: but unless he's the Democrat nominee. You got to remember 300 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: the Democrats are you know, they they move in in 301 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: lockstep together. They are hive mined. You know, there is 302 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: are there any Star Trek nerds. I know there are 303 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: some in the audience. I'm a dilettant when it comes 304 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: to Star Trek. I know a little bit, not a lot. 305 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: You know, there's the borg right, the cyborgs that are 306 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: all connected and they can kind of all, you know, 307 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: think and move as one. That's the Democrats. It's like 308 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: a machine mind, like I said, the mechanistic approach, the 309 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: machine approach to politics and to thinking. So if Joe 310 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Biden is their candidate, they're all gonna line up behind 311 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. There's not going to be twenty percent of 312 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: Democrats writing in for RFK Junior. I also think that 313 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: we have to be we have to be honest and 314 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: look at the ways that there can be political manipula 315 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: that goes on here. Some people don't like hearing this, 316 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: but there were in twenty twenty two in some primaries 317 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: candidates who were very you know, very much on the 318 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: right and somewhat identified with the America First movement who 319 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: were given money or who got campaign money, you know, 320 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: donations from Democrats because they thought they would be easier 321 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: to beat. The Democrats thought they would be easier to beat, 322 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: and so sure, enough that was a successful strategy. You know, 323 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: think about the way this could play out now with 324 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: RFK Junior. Republicans gave him all of this attention and 325 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: media and allowed him to build a national political profile 326 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: very quickly. It wasn't the Democrats. Yeah, I mean sorry. 327 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: Rogan's RFK Juniors rise was built on Joe Rogan Show, 328 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: Talk Radio, No Question, Fox News. That's where he got 329 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: most of his exposure because he was willing to say 330 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: things specifically about COVID and about Biden that we wanted 331 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: to hear on the right. Well, if you look at 332 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: the rn C now, they've put out a statement about 333 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: Kennedy that says he is quote, just another radical, far 334 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: left Democrat. Make no mistake, a Democrat in independence clothing 335 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: is still a Democrat. RFK Junior cannot hide from his 336 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: record of endorsing Hillary, supporting the Green New Deal, fighting 337 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: against the Keystone Pipeline, and praising AOC's tax hikes. He 338 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: is your typical elitist liberal and voters won't be fooled. 339 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: That's from RNC Chairman Ronal McDaniel. Now, put aside, whatever 340 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: you think of the RNC and Chairman McDaniel, this is 341 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: I think where we all have to take up we 342 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: all have to be on team reality here for a second. Recognize, 343 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: this is going to be a very close election in 344 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: a handful of states where the slightest movement of the 345 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: needle could determine that state and could could be a 346 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: major part of determining the presidential election. And I do 347 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: not see a world where in those states more Democrats 348 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: are going to decide to peel off from Biden and 349 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: vote for RFK Junior than Republicans. So this is now 350 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: an additional challenge. And I will say I am something 351 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: of a lone voice here on the right when I 352 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: talk about how won Biden's going to be the nominated Ever, 353 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: it's October tenth. So remember the great plan with New 354 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: sum or with Michelle Obama or you know whatever. Remember 355 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: we heard about all these plans. It's October tenth. Unless 356 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: they do something in they got they got less than 357 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: what sixty days to pull this whole thing off. You're 358 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: hearing a lot about it these days. I'm not I've 359 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: been saying that Joe Biden's going to be the nominee 360 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: because I think I could be wrong, in which case 361 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be buying Clay a very expensive steak, and 362 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: I'll be eating humble pie. I won't be eating steak. 363 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: I'll be eating humble pie here on the show. But 364 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: I understand that the Democrats view the election as machine 365 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: based more than candidate based. The system is what people 366 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: vote for in the Democrat Party, right, the system, it's like, 367 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: you're not it's not you're not casting your vote for 368 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: one player on the team. You're just you know, you're 369 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: a Yankees person, or you're a Marlins person or a 370 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: you know. I don't know. I can't Dodgers. I'm trying 371 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: to think of sports teams as worth. I really really 372 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: need Clay. But point here beating Joe Biden, I think 373 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: is going to end up being the nominee. And I 374 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: also think that he, because of the Democrat apparatus, is 375 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: going to be for likely Trump. Please all the desantists 376 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: and Nikki Haley and Tim Scott, et cetera. Voters. I'm 377 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: not counting out anybody. I don't think anybody can predict 378 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: the future. But assuming it is Trump, it's going to 379 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: be a challenge because of all of the things that 380 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: the Democrats have as an advantage, which and this is 381 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: kind of like the most basic of all, but the media. 382 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: We still have a media and a social media world 383 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: that is completely dominated by the left and by Democrats. 384 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: But what do you think that's worth? And people who 385 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: say to me, oh, bucket's impossible. They can't get that 386 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: amount of votes or they can't do this. I sit there, 387 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: I say, like, almost ninety percent of New York City 388 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: votes democratics. I think it's eighty something. It's a city 389 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: of eight million people. The whole city is basically Democrat 390 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: except for Staten Island. Thank you Staten Island. But you know, 391 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: you sit there, you say, how is this possible? It 392 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: is possible. And one of the reasons is because they 393 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: have such a massive propaganda apparatus advantage. These Democrats have 394 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: a media that is just constantly on their side pushing 395 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: for their ideas. I mean, think about what that's worth 396 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: in terms of how it affects, especially a national election. 397 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, as Joe Biden a week candidate, is it absurd? 398 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: Is he too old? Do I think this whole thing 399 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: looks horrible for the country. Yeah, all of that is true. 400 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be a dogfight election. An RFK Junior 401 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: may end up being the difference maker, and I don't 402 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: know what we do about that. I don't have an 403 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: answer for you thinking. I'm trying to think of how 404 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: we counter this. Obviously, just we need more Trump votes, right, 405 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: we need more. We need more Republicans to come out 406 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: and not to be swayed to go third party with 407 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: RFK Junior because he's good on really one thing. Okay, 408 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: he's good on one thing, and there are a lot 409 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: of Republicans who are good on that one thing, so 410 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: it's not like it's that unique. We're going to have 411 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: to figure out what the real numbers look like here 412 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: and how to make sure that this doesn't turn into 413 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: a situation. Can I mean, can you imagine I don't 414 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: want to make you really depressed about politics too, but 415 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: you imagine it's the day after election twenty twenty four, 416 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: and you know, because RFK Junior gets one or two 417 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: percent of the vote, Joe Biden gets four more years. 418 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: This is what we want to avoid, folks, This is 419 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: what we want to avoid. So we need to start 420 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: thinking about this critically and seriously now and how this 421 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: can be countered on the ground, get out the vote efforts, messaging, 422 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: all of it. 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If you're looking for inside an analysis on 445 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: I was going to say the Middle East, but really 446 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: just I could have stopped the sentence. The View is 447 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: not the place you would generally want to go, but 448 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: it is a window into Democrat rank and file thinking. 449 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: The View does represent almost a watered down DNC talking 450 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: points extravaganza. That's what it is, like, simplified DNC talking 451 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: points for everybody. And here is the response of one 452 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: of their I believe she's their chief legal analyst or 453 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: their main legal analyst, Sunny hostin to the situation right 454 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: now in Israel. Play it. 455 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: What is terrifying to me also is that there is 456 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 4: so much anger on the Israeli side, arguably correctly so, 457 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: because they've never seen this kind of massacre on their 458 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: land in fifty years, but now you have it, and 459 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: we're going to launch an offensive against those two point 460 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: to million people, half of which are children, providing no food, 461 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: water or electricity, stander or losers on both sides of this, 462 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: and they're civilians. 463 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, it's very illuminating when, first off, 464 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: she says, arguably there are arguably justified anger. There could 465 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: be no more clearly justified and righteous anger possible in 466 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: the world in history than the Israeli anger at what 467 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: has been done to them and their people over the 468 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: last few days. So the use of arguably there is 469 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: a is a just it's insane, honestly. And then also 470 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: this this sudden concern, where is her outpouring of concern 471 00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: for the Israeli families who have seen in cases videos 472 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: posted of their loved ones taken US hostages who may 473 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: still be executed, may be tortured, or videos of people 474 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: who were already killed. There was a sadistic glee that 475 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: these Hamas terrorists took in what they were doing. They 476 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: were streaming some of it or posting some of it 477 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: on social media. They have been doing things to show 478 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: you just how evil they are. And I think we 479 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: all have to pay attention to it and take it 480 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: as seriously as we can and not engage in this impulse. 481 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: The Left has to well, now let's just focus on, 482 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, tamping things down, and you know both sides 483 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: have had accesses. No, sorry, not gonna do that, Not 484 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: gonna play that game that the left wants us to 485 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: right now to forget what has just happened and try 486 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: to broaden this out into it just more of a 487 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: historic conflict and many causes, and there's many, many facets 488 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: of this that deserve our attention and explanation. No, Israel 489 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: needs to go in there and kick the ass of 490 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: these terrorists and take the fight to them with everything 491 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: that it has, and that's what they're going to do. 492 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: And I'm very you know, I could not be more 493 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: on their side. I know all of you feel the 494 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: same way about what has to happen here and what 495 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: needs to go on. But it's just so predictable that 496 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: these Democrat left wing forces are taking this or Democrat 497 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: lead to left wing voices they say forces Democrat left 498 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: wing voices are taking this position. Security threats in the US. 499 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to address that. Biden just spoke about this, 500 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: as you know, he's addressing the nation live right now, 501 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: So we're pulling out the most noteworthy parts of it 502 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: so we can discuss it here on the show. Play 503 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: twenty seven. 504 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 5: To Tady steps at home. These cities are across the 505 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: United States of America. Police departments have stepped up security 506 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 5: around centers of Jewish life. The Department of HOMEO Security, 507 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: the Federal Bureau of Investigation are working closely with state 508 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 5: and local law enforcement and Jewish community partners to identify 509 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 5: and disrupt any domestic threat that could emerge connection with 510 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: these horrific attacks. This is a moment for the United 511 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: States to come together to grieve with those who are mourning. 512 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: Let's be real clear. 513 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 5: There's no place for hate in America, not against Jews, 514 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 5: not against Muslims, not against anybody. 515 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: We reject. We reject. 516 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 5: What we reject is terrorism. 517 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: And this is where he talks about looking at the 518 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: risk the vulnerabilities we have in this country. Our wide 519 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: open border is a massive security risk to us. This 520 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: is true, and it has never been more wide open 521 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: than it is right now. I was actually just speaking 522 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: to friends last night. I was out with some friends 523 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: here in Miami Beach and they asked you about this. 524 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: They said, what what do you make of the concerns 525 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: that there could be plans for an attack in the 526 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: US along similar lines? Now we've seen things we've seen. 527 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: Isis inspired attacks in this country. In fact, we've even 528 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: seen what terrorism analysts call remote control or outside outside 529 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: in attacks where there'll be direct communications. Right whether you 530 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: look at Anwar Alachi and Nadal Hassan, the Ford hoodshooter, 531 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: there have been other instances of direct contact with outside 532 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: gie hottist entities who then engaged in mass murder, mass terrorism, 533 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: mass murder in the name of terrorism here on US soil. 534 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 1: It's it's difficult enough to try to thwart all these 535 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: plots when you don't have two hundred thousand people a 536 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: month pouring across your border with effectively no vetting whatsoever. 537 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: But as you can imagine right now, if you were 538 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: a bad guy and I'm not like giving away any 539 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: secrets to the enemy here, it's quite obvious if you 540 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: were a bad guy and you wanted to infiltrate your 541 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: people into the United States, gonna I gotta fly from 542 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: uh you know, you know, and I gotta fly from 543 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: the Mid East region to try to get direct into 544 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: JFK or into you know, Dullest or something, and then 545 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: go through customs and all this stuff. No, no, no, no no. 546 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: If you want to put trained militants into the United 547 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: States in sleeper mode. The way to do it is 548 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: you you show up in uh, you know, would say, 549 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: you show up in Mexico, their security protocols the airport 550 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: might be a little bit more stringent. So maybe you 551 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: go to you know, Venezuela. They're not gonna care, probably 552 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: welcome the thearrists and they you then make your way up. 553 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: You get to the US Mexico border, and the chance 554 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: of being able to enter the US illegally, even if 555 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: you were on the terror watch list, or even if 556 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: you're a known you know, there are a number of 557 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: and some of you have been writing in maybe we'll 558 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: do some of this tomorrow. You're saying, wait, it's confusing. 559 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: There's Hamas, there's Hesbola, there's Palestinian Islamic Jihad. There are these. 560 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: There are numerous different you know, lots of martyr brigades 561 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: that there's numerous different terror entities all with there literally 562 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: with missiles and rockets you know, pointed at Israel right now. 563 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: They all share the same ideology. There are some differences 564 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: in who they are. At Hesbela, for example, has a 565 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: very large arsenal and is a Shia militant group. Hamas 566 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: is Sunni, but they're willing to work together. They're willing 567 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: to work together in order to attack the Jews. Iran is, 568 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: of course the largest, the the predominant Shia Muslim power, 569 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: will work with Hamas a Sunni militant group in order 570 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: to kill as many Asraelis as possible. Anyway back to 571 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: just goes to show you the death. And they usually 572 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: have problems with each other. Right there's the schism between 573 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: Sunni and Shia Islam, but they put that aside when 574 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: it comes to fighting Israel. Our southern border is a 575 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: massive security weakness for us, and it's something that right 576 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: now this country lacks the political will to do anything 577 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: about it. That's really what it comes down to the 578 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: people who say, oh, but if only you know, maybe 579 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: we can get this done or that done. No, we 580 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: need we need a victory in twenty twenty four that 581 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: gives us control of Congress and the presidency. And you know, 582 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: in this case, likely and hopefully Donald Trump, and there 583 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: has to be all of the above effort to not 584 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: only secure the border, but to end the incentive for 585 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: people to come into the country illegally. And that's going 586 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: to mean you're going to have to there's going to 587 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: be a lot of people who are sent back to 588 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: their home countries. You know, this is not some situation 589 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: where you can just ignore all of the laws and 590 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: expect there to be an end the problem. And that's 591 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: where I think all of this is this, that's where 592 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: this is that otherwise you're just gonna get a mass ampithtey. 593 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: But put that aside for a second. Southern border is 594 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: wide open, and if terrorists wanted to infiltrate the country, 595 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: if you were wargaming this from the the bad guy 596 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: side of the table, that's the fastest, quickest way, the 597 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: most certain way to get into the country, completely unrestricted. 598 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: And so there's real concern here, you know. And then 599 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: I sit here say how much well think about this. 600 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: Here's a question for you. What kind of time and 601 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: resources do you think the Biden DOJ and FBI has 602 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: put into g hottest extremist or all giodists in this 603 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: context or experience. But you know, gee hottest terror cells 604 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: on US soil versus tracking down every Jan six protester 605 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: who was on the Capitol grounds that day? Right, But 606 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: what do you think has gotten more attention of the 607 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: Biden administration? Which one do you think is of greater 608 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: priority for Joe Biden's executive branch. So when you add 609 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: that to the wide open border, I think you recognize 610 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: they have no idea how many gihattists have already infiltrated 611 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: the country, what their level of sophistication is. 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She's a New York Post columnist, author of 656 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: the very excellent book Laptop from How Miranda, thanks for 657 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: making the time. 658 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 3: It's stay fantastic to be with you. 659 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: So you have a piece up on the post. Reckoning 660 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: needed after Biden's failed foreign policy gave Hamas terror the 661 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: element of surprise, walk us, walk us through this here? 662 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: How do you connect the dots to biden Ford policy 663 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: and this obviously this heinous sneak attack by Hamas. 664 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 6: Well. 665 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: Look, obviously there was an intelligent failure there in Israel 666 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: and in the US, which you know supplies its allies 667 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: with intelligence. It's always very useful, and in this case 668 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 3: it didn't happen. And you have to ask the question 669 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 3: about whether or not several factors that have compromised America's 670 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 3: ability to see what was going on with ran the factor. 671 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: And so for instance, there was the appeasement, continual appeasement 672 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 3: of Iran and the giving back of the six billion dollars, 673 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: which I'm sure we've been talking about all week. And 674 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 3: also the fact that there was aspir ring has just 675 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 3: been busted inside the State Department and in fact the 676 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 3: highest reaches of the Pentagon. This is an Iranian spir ring, 677 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 3: and it seems that it was at least being assisted 678 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 3: by this guy Robert Maalei, who was the hand picked 679 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: US envoy to Iran, who was the chief negotiator under 680 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 3: Obama for the you know, this sort of demented Iran 681 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: deal that Joe Biden and Anthony Blincoln, his Secretary of 682 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 3: State and just hell bent on pursuing. And this guy 683 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 3: Robert Mali, who's now been suspended without pay and is 684 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 3: under investigation by the FBI for some sort of security breach. 685 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: He's been binged by. 686 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 6: Well. 687 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: Lee Smith in Tablet wrote it, but there have been 688 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: other pieces basically piecing together emails that were leaked from 689 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 3: to Iranian dissidents and showing that Robert Mali and various 690 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 3: people that he was involved with incoding someone that he 691 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 3: got into work at the State Department have been basically 692 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 3: talking to their handlers back in Iran, and so this 693 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,959 Speaker 3: is very disturbing. And then there's another disturbing aspect, which 694 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 3: is there's the Iranian dissidents. A group called ny K 695 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 3: were under the protection of the US moved out of 696 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: Iraq into Albania, and I mean as recently as the 697 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 3: Trump administration, Mike Pompey then the Secretary of State was 698 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 3: very supportive of them. Now in June they were rolled 699 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 3: up by the raided by the Albanian government and their 700 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 3: computer something like two hundred and thirty computers were ended 701 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 3: up back in the hands of the Iranians. That's certainly 702 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 3: what it seems like. 703 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 6: It's certainly what. 704 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 3: The Iranians are saying, and they're very happy about the 705 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 3: fact that they are getting good information from these computers, 706 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 3: which basically has unmasked all the Iranian dissidents and led 707 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 3: to arrests. And my question is, is it led to 708 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 3: the blinding of the US and Israeli intelligence because now 709 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 3: they had no eyes and ears on the ground in Iran. 710 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: What are your sources telling you about this? I mean, 711 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: I get people. I mean, look, Marian, I've been out 712 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: of the CIA now for over a decade, but one 713 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: thing I remember for my time there was the Israelis 714 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: were as drilled down on their area of responsibility and 715 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: intelligence where as anybody on the planet. And so I 716 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: just think there's a there's a little bit of a 717 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: of a shattering of the belief that the Israel, whether 718 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: it's massage and bet these different entities, you know, IDF 719 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: and its intelligence units. Like people are asking me how 720 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: could this happen? And I don't have an answer for them, 721 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: because if they had asked me if this sort of 722 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: thing was possible even a few months ago, I would 723 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: have said, the Israelis are as on it as anyone 724 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: could be anywhere. Do you have any sense from your sources? 725 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: I mean, was it just the that was it that 726 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: Hamas was playing this game of oh, we actually want 727 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: to go in the opposite direction of violence, and so 728 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 1: the head fake was a big part of it. What 729 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: are you hearing? 730 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, initially I heard just because it was done so 731 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 3: late that you know, the plans even though they've been 732 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 3: on foot for a year now, we hear that the 733 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: sort of go and you know, final orders were just 734 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 3: very late in the game and it wasn't enough time. 735 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 3: But I mean that just doesn't seem like a good excuse. 736 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: It does seem like someone's dropped the ball. And in Israel, 737 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really know what's been going on 738 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 3: there other than you know, nett Ya, who's only just 739 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 3: come back, and he takes these things much more seriously, 740 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 3: I think than his predecessors, and you know. 741 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 6: Who knows. 742 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe their intelligence has been woke ified like 743 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 3: American intelligence, and maybe they've been distracted by these sort 744 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 3: of internal threats that are going on there. 745 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 6: You know, there's protests and so on. I don't know, 746 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 6: I don't really. 747 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just wondering if anyone ever comes up with 748 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: a I'm sure it will happen. We'll find out that 749 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: there was some you know, there were warnings that were 750 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 1: missed that it tends to be that in the chatter, 751 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, they they thought that it was A and 752 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: it was actually B. I mean, there's usually some some 753 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: revelation that comes later in these things. But actually we're 754 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: speaking Miranda Divine from the New York Post. I wanted 755 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: to switch if I could with you Miranda to Biden 756 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: has just been interviewed by the Special Counsel and the 757 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: Classified Documents Probe. Tell me, you know, what do you 758 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: make of this? I mean from the beginning I've been 759 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 1: telling Clay in this audience that I feel like they're 760 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: just going through the motions on this one. And it's 761 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: in part so they can say, well, we put Biden 762 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: through the ringer, so to speak, Trump's going through the 763 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: same one. 764 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's certainly what looks like and you know, just 765 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 3: from objective measurements like the amount of money that Robert 766 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 3: Hurr is spending compared to how much Jack Smith is spending, 767 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 3: I think it's something like three to one, And so 768 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 3: it's a much smaller sort of setup. And Robert hur 769 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 3: unlike Jack Smith, doesn't appear to be a killer. 770 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 6: They bought Jack Smith. 771 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 3: They waited for Jack Smith in fact, to come back 772 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: from Europe because they wanted someone like him who had 773 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: that track record of, you know, pursuing his prey without. 774 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 6: Really much care about the legal niceties. 775 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 3: So that's the person they have sicked on Donald Trump, 776 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: whereas Robert Hurst seems much more gentlemanly style person. On 777 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 3: the other hand, you know, there's some real problems with 778 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, as we know just from his the history 779 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 3: of corruption that I think the American people are. 780 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 6: Starting to be aware of. 781 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 3: And the fact that he has classified documents from his 782 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 3: Senate days tells you something that's a bit disturbing because 783 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 3: he should never have had hands on that. 784 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 6: You know. 785 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 3: I guess if a president has classified documents, that's not 786 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 3: so unusual because you know, wherever he is becomes a 787 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 3: sort of a skiff. 788 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 6: But for a senator, they have. 789 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 3: To go into this secure area and they're not allowed 790 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 3: to take the documents out, and so it's a big question. 791 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 3: And also, I mean, it was not too long ago 792 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden was dismissing the idea that he would 793 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 3: be questioned and saying that's not even on the books, 794 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 3: and quite offended by that. And in fact, he's had 795 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 3: two days of questioning. So I can't tell whether that 796 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 3: means that this investigation is actually taking, you know, a 797 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 3: turn that he didn't expect or not. 798 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 6: But at least he is being interviewed, Yes. 799 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: He is, he is being interviewed. I feel like we know, 800 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: well the outcome is going to be here, but they've 801 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: sort of created this special counsel for Biden, special counsel 802 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: for Trump. But as we know, Marina, not all special 803 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: counsels are are you know, are made the same. And 804 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: with that in mind, what can you tell us, I mean, 805 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden has pleaded not guilty on the on the 806 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 1: gun charge. Are there any developments on that? And where 807 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: do you see now that we're getting deeper into this, 808 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 1: it's looking more and more likely just based on the 809 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 1: calendar that Joe Biden is going to be the nominee. 810 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: What do you think the Hunter Biden situation legally turns into? 811 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: What are your expectations? 812 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 3: I can't imagine that Hunter Byden will go to jail, 813 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 3: But this is something that his lawyers had not been 814 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 3: and he had not been expecting. They thought that they 815 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 3: had it all sewn up and that they were that 816 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 3: plea deal was basically you need to get out of 817 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 3: jail free card literally, And so that's blown up and 818 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 3: there's nothing that Joe Biden now can do for his 819 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 3: son and so other than ultimately about pardon, I guess. 820 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 6: But in terms of this and also the. 821 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:51,280 Speaker 3: Breakdown of the relationship between David wife and Hunter Biden's lawyers, 822 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 3: that seems genuine and there does seem to be as 823 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 3: sort of you know, they've swapped out prosecutors. Now, they 824 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 3: had losely Will who was definitely in the tank for 825 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 3: the Bidens. Now they've got quite a tough guy with 826 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 3: the history of being a tough prosecutor, got called Leo Wife. 827 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 3: He's in charge, and I can't imagine he's going to 828 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 3: want to ruin his career by going soft on Hunter Biden. 829 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 3: So they seem to be just playing it by the book. 830 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 6: Now. 831 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 3: Of course it's all a bit late because the most 832 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 3: serious charges from twenty but you know, allegations from twenty 833 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 3: fourteen twenty fifteen on the tax front, and also a 834 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 3: lot of the farough possibilities they've statued the limitations is 835 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 3: run out on them, so it's sort of slim pickens, 836 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 3: but it's still serious. And if Hunter Biden were to 837 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 3: be treated like the average American, he'd be very concerned 838 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 3: at the moment. And the other thing is his money. 839 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 3: You know, he seemed to have unlimited legal funds, and 840 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 3: there was all these dark money groups that had collected 841 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 3: money for him, and he's been suing people willy nilly, 842 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 3: as well as having multiple cases that he has to defend. 843 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 3: But just recently, I think it was CNN said that 844 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 3: he was running out of money and that people weren't 845 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,720 Speaker 3: wanting to give him money. I thought that was untrue, 846 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 3: but I double checked with a source and they said, no, 847 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 3: it is true that he's become kryptonite now Hunter Biden, 848 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 3: and I guess his father's donors. 849 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 6: Are not that interested in helping him. It's really more. 850 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 3: Beneficial, I think to Joe Biden's candidacy if Hunter Biden 851 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 3: is sort of quarantined as being the problem, and you know, 852 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 3: and poor Joe Biden, all he did was try and 853 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,240 Speaker 3: help his son because he's such a good father. 854 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: So I guess there's no there's no prohibition right on 855 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 1: if somebody wants to just pay all of Hunter's legal bills. 856 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: That's it's just interesting me because that to me is like, 857 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 1: how far is that from some foreign company that's giving 858 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: a hundred money for access to dad? You know what 859 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean? It feels like that might have been a 860 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: window into like Biden influence peddling effectively. 861 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely election interference. And you know, there was an FBI 862 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 3: investigation into Kevin Morris which was aborted. 863 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 6: I think on the say so of Leslie Wolf. But 864 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 6: that was certainly. 865 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 3: Washington, headquarters of the FBI was looking into this is 866 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden's sugar daddy, who's paid well, I mean it's 867 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 3: at least two point eight million dollars in unpaid taxes 868 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 3: plus footing his Malibu rent and other living expenses. And 869 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 3: so they were FBI was looking at that as a 870 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 3: sort of a donation in kind of some sort of 871 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 3: a violation campaign violation. 872 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 6: But they stood down. So I agree, and that. 873 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 3: Perhaps accounts for you know, while money is drying up 874 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 3: because people don't want to be caught out in the 875 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 3: sort of buy everything that everybody that goes in. 876 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 6: To work with the bidens or help them out ends 877 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 6: up getting burned. 878 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't want to go into business with under 879 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: Biden right now. 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