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Speaker 1: analysts he's a great guy. No. Finally, it seems the
Speaker 1: obvious is something that the Libs, the Democrats will say
Speaker 1: out loud when it comes to lockdown, only a few
Speaker 1: of them, mind you, it's just beginning to happen. But
Speaker 1: for the first time, you're starting to see articles. You're
Speaker 1: seeing discussion from politicians like the governor of New York
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo, the mayor of Chicago, America's third largest city,
Speaker 1: Lori Lightfoot, and now a Newsweek piece COVID lockdowns have
Speaker 1: no clear benefit versus other voluntary measures. International study shows.
Speaker 1: So that's something that I've been saying for a long time,
Speaker 1: but now we can actually talk about it. And this
Speaker 1: is interesting. There is a coincidental timing, it seems. Now
Speaker 1: there's also the timing one would expect the vaccines were
Speaker 1: approved in December, and now we're getting into middle of
Speaker 1: January and things. We're halfway into the winter here, So
Speaker 1: obviously I get it there would be more of a
Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel, feel. But just
Speaker 1: yesterday you had Joe Biden telling everybody about his one
Speaker 1: point eight trillion dollar reopen plan to save America, And
Speaker 1: now you're also seeing the beginnings the first, the first
Speaker 1: few conversations happening publicly about maybe these lockdowns weren't such
Speaker 1: a good idea. Oh really, just before inauguration day, right
Speaker 1: right when we're about to see a change in government,
Speaker 1: there's the seeds of sanity being planted. I'm very pleased
Speaker 1: about that makes me happy. It should have happened a
Speaker 1: long time ago. And I also I can't help but
Speaker 1: take something of a cynical view about all this, because,
Speaker 1: for example, the Joe Biden rescue plan that's been talking
Speaker 1: about here one point eight trillion dollars, How do you
Speaker 1: oppose that when what you're going to be opposing is
Speaker 1: the rescue of America from COVID. How can you say
Speaker 1: there's too much spending going on when a lot of
Speaker 1: that spending will be money that should have been spent
Speaker 1: months and months ago, but Nancy Pelosi thwarted it and
Speaker 1: the Democrats stopped it. How do you deal with all that?
Speaker 1: What do you do? What political opposition will Republicans really
Speaker 1: be able to put up? I think the answer is
Speaker 1: not a whole lot. Oh, we're going to start the
Speaker 1: usual we're spending too much money conversation. Is that where
Speaker 1: it's going to go. Fine, we can do that, and
Speaker 1: it's true, it's not that that's not accurate, But we
Speaker 1: didn't talk about that for four years. Occasionally I used
Speaker 1: to say on this show, I know nobody wants to
Speaker 1: hear about it, but we're spending too much money as
Speaker 1: a government. Right, the treasury was profligant in its spending,
Speaker 1: and when the good times were happening, and they were
Speaker 1: until COVID for three years of Trump's presidency, nobody wanted
Speaker 1: to hear about it. It was just something that was
Speaker 1: happening in the background. Be quiet, maga, look at the
Speaker 1: stock market. That was the attitude. Now I understand how
Speaker 1: that happened, but we now I also have to face
Speaker 1: the reality of Democrats coming in with united control of
Speaker 1: the government and being able to say, not only did
Speaker 1: Republicans not curb their spending, but they have this added
Speaker 1: mission of saving America from COVID, which is going to
Speaker 1: require a ton of spending. And just like can you
Speaker 1: see the parallels with two thousand and eight, Just like
Speaker 1: when Obama came into office in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: he won the two thousand and eight election, and it
Speaker 1: was a trillion dollars stimulus package, remember that, And that
Speaker 1: sounded like a lot of money, didn't it. It It is
Speaker 1: a lot of money. We're looking at one point eight
Speaker 1: trillion right now, basically double and that's after spending trillions
Speaker 1: in the last in the last twelve months, in addition
Speaker 1: to the enormous federal alley that was planned before COVID.
Speaker 1: So Biden is also being set up here to be
Speaker 1: the savior in a sense, right he is the cure.
Speaker 1: You can almost write the headlines right now, and he's
Speaker 1: going to be able to get away with them. But
Speaker 1: it's not even Biden. He's just a figurehead. The Democrat
Speaker 1: machinery around him is going to be ramming through whatever
Speaker 1: they want all under this ages of COVID. That's what
Speaker 1: they'll do, all under this COVID situation, and if you
Speaker 1: oppose it, they'll say that you don't want America to
Speaker 1: be better off and you don't want Americans to be
Speaker 1: taken care of during this terrible and difficult time. So
Speaker 1: what does that leave us with? That leaves us with
Speaker 1: a very challenging case to make. Here, we're going to
Speaker 1: have Republicans who have no actual political authority and who
Speaker 1: are on the precipice of getting steamrolled on the filibuster,
Speaker 1: which I think is also going to happen. You see
Speaker 1: that that then becomes the trip wire. Biden has this
Speaker 1: one point a trillion and you're looking through all this stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, fifteen dollars minimum way, it's got all these
Speaker 1: things in it, right, fifteen dollars minimum way, it's two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars payments to individuals. You know that there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a whole lot of other stuff in there. There
Speaker 1: is a whole lot of other stuff in there that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with saving America from COVID. But
Speaker 1: it's money that democrats, it's your money that Democrats want
Speaker 1: to spend on favored constituencies. But just like with the
Speaker 1: financial crisis in two thousand and nine, right, A crisis
Speaker 1: is a terrible thing to waste. They are already setting
Speaker 1: this up. It's a replay to borrow from Yogi Barra.
Speaker 1: It is deja vu all over again. We're seeing right
Speaker 1: now the Democrats. Really it's almost like doing Obama Administration
Speaker 1: two point zero or Obama administration reducts approach to the
Speaker 1: beginning of the Biden administration, and we're gonna have some
Speaker 1: of the same challenges. You want to oppose the one
Speaker 1: point eight trillion dollars in spending. Oh, I'm sorry. You
Speaker 1: don't want two thousand dollars checks in people's hands after
Speaker 1: this pandemic. Oh, you just want giveaways for corporations, Is
Speaker 1: that right? You don't want the money to be spent
Speaker 1: at the level it is right now because Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: was blocking it for obviously political reasons. Who cares. People
Speaker 1: still want their money. And if you look at the
Speaker 1: way they got Obamacare through, which also happened when they
Speaker 1: had a unified Congress and executive branch under the first
Speaker 1: Obama our first two years of Obama's presidency, if you
Speaker 1: look at what happened, what do we remember about the
Speaker 1: Obamacare debate? Oh, it was big. It was unwieldy. There
Speaker 1: was all this stuff in Obamacare, but ultimately it was
Speaker 1: you can stay in your parents insurance until you're twenty
Speaker 1: six and pre existing conditions that was in. There was
Speaker 1: all this other stuff, I mean medical device taxes and
Speaker 1: exchanges and all these things, and ultimately Obamacare just created
Speaker 1: in the individual market winners and losers chosen by the government.
Speaker 1: Some people were getting less and paying more, other people
Speaker 1: were getting more and paying less. It was just shifting
Speaker 1: around those costs. It did not create a better, cheaper, safer,
Speaker 1: more effective healthcare system. That didn't happen. And the way
Speaker 1: that it expanded most of its coverage was actually through Medicaid,
Speaker 1: which is a healthcare welfare system as we know that
Speaker 1: has pretty bad long term healthcare outcomes because a lot
Speaker 1: of providers in a lot of places won't take it
Speaker 1: because the very low reimbursement rates and that's the only
Speaker 1: way they keep costs down. So while they say you're covered,
Speaker 1: your access to care is actually not particularly strong. This
Speaker 1: is also known as a shortage or what ends up
Speaker 1: in rationing when there are shortages. So that's all that
Speaker 1: we talked about though during that debater, or I should
Speaker 1: say that was what the media focus was. Guess what,
Speaker 1: Right now, they're going to say, it's about two thousand
Speaker 1: dollar checks and a fifteen dollar minimum wage, and Republicans
Speaker 1: couldn't stop this even if they wanted to. So what
Speaker 1: you're going to see is Republicans make some noise about it,
Speaker 1: get beat up by the Democrats verbally in talking about
Speaker 1: in the Congress. Here they're gonna just smack them around
Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm sorry, you don't want checks to Americans.
Speaker 1: And if they really try to stand fast on this,
Speaker 1: when if they if they really try to block this
Speaker 1: massive spending package, then what happens is they're they're going
Speaker 1: to get rid of the filibuster in a way that
Speaker 1: nobody's even gonna be upset about. I mean, yes, the
Speaker 1: people like me will say, oh my gosh, this is
Speaker 1: the strategy, and I see what they're doing. But what's
Speaker 1: really going to happen is that they will they will
Speaker 1: use this as an opportunity on something popular. This is
Speaker 1: me telling you they are setting that they know what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Forget about Biden. This is about the Democrat
Speaker 1: think tanks and activist groups and packs and their staffs
Speaker 1: and their little wonks. They understand how to set this
Speaker 1: up so that what looks like the rescue plan for
Speaker 1: America is just a complete open playing field for whatever
Speaker 1: else Democrat want to do, including perhaps once you get
Speaker 1: rid of the filibuster, it's going to be gone. So
Speaker 1: they're daring Republicans. Yeah, try to filibust and by the way,
Speaker 1: Republicans don't have the backbone to do it anyway. And
Speaker 1: then you add to that the prospect. Remember two thousand
Speaker 1: dollars checks, fifteen dollar minimum wage, those are very popular issues.
Speaker 1: It is unthinkable malpractice that Mitch McConnell didn't put through
Speaker 1: the two thousand dollars checks when he could have before
Speaker 1: the Georgia Senate election. Terrible malpractice. That was old school
Speaker 1: GOP loser thinking. And now what people keep asking me,
Speaker 1: what do we do? I want to tell you that
Speaker 1: there's a better answer as a conservative than hide under
Speaker 1: your desk. I want to tell you that brace for
Speaker 1: impact isn't the real sentiment we should feel. But I
Speaker 1: see all these things lining up, and when you add
Speaker 1: to that the ability to reopen, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Iden will figure out a way to mess this up
Speaker 1: over the long term. I think we'll see the socialist impulse,
Speaker 1: the collectives in the ineptitude, the social justice, many of
Speaker 1: the climate change absurdity that will all factor into this,
Speaker 1: and people will see, oh my gosh, the people in
Speaker 1: charge are actually kind of nuts. What they're doing doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense, but for right now they are. They are
Speaker 1: teeing all of this up. They are teeing all of
Speaker 1: this up. And the people that think that there's a
Speaker 1: plan or that there's some and I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: from the Congress. I'm talking about from the Republican officeholders,
Speaker 1: of whom Donald Trump will not be one in a
Speaker 1: few days. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: I speak the truth. I know what should I do?
Speaker 1: Should I just tell people happy, happy fantasy stories about
Speaker 1: the geops or we're gonna have what a Convention of
Speaker 1: the States will save us? It will not, that's not
Speaker 1: at least I mean certainly not from the next twelve
Speaker 1: months and what the Democrats are planning, that's not an option.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate. I'm sure I'll get some links sent
Speaker 1: to me. What about a Convention of the States? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about the last time we did that? We didn't
Speaker 1: do that, and it's not going to happen this time either.
Speaker 1: But I just want everyone to see, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: they suppressed the truth about lockdowns. They wouldn't discuss the
Speaker 1: data during a pandemic when people were effectively being imprisoned
Speaker 1: and isolated in their own homes, separated from their fairly
Speaker 1: human beings. All the drug abuse, all the miscancers, greetings,
Speaker 1: all the overdoses, and just the depression, the actual clinical
Speaker 1: depression that is set in for so many people across
Speaker 1: the country. That wasn't enough for them to say, this
Speaker 1: is above politics, Let's have an honest conversation about these lockdowns.
Speaker 1: Because this study out of Stanford, which is what Newsweek
Speaker 1: is citing here, says that you can't tell if there's
Speaker 1: the data, doesn't show any appreciable benefit of going into
Speaker 1: extreme lockdown measures over what I've been advocating for all along,
Speaker 1: which is you don't try to stay away from big crowds,
Speaker 1: wash your hands if you're six, stay away from people.
Speaker 1: But they created this, this total straw man of the
Speaker 1: COVID denialist. Oh, if you if you don't think that
Speaker 1: every two weeks we should add some absurd addition to
Speaker 1: the lockdown strategy. Well, now we're going to close restaurants
Speaker 1: outdoor too. Now we're gonna add masks outdoor too, or
Speaker 1: they just kept doing this, ratcheting it up. If you
Speaker 1: pointed out that this was absurd, it wasn't going to
Speaker 1: help anybody, what was their response. Their response was, you're
Speaker 1: a COVID denialist. You know what the data shows. The
Speaker 1: people who were saying that were wrong. And if you
Speaker 1: just think through this on your own, you recognize, of
Speaker 1: course that stuff didn't make a difference because the disease
Speaker 1: wasn't really spreading outdoors in any significant way. For example,
Speaker 1: because even with lockdowns, people are having to interact an
Speaker 1: off that the virus is still spreading. And initially when
Speaker 1: we were doing this, it was all about shutting down
Speaker 1: the virus for a short period of time, shutting down
Speaker 1: the spread not entirely, of course, for a short period
Speaker 1: of time to allow us to get medical capacity. And
Speaker 1: then it transitioned to know, we can stop this, No
Speaker 1: we can't. If you pull down you know what would
Speaker 1: have been twenty percent of cases, let's say, or thirty
Speaker 1: percent of cases over a two week period. But then
Speaker 1: you extend what you're doing over nine months twelve months,
Speaker 1: you end up at rough basically the same number. That's
Speaker 1: the point. It doesn't really change the eventual outcome here,
Speaker 1: which is what we're seeing all around the country. But
Speaker 1: they are just beginning to talk about it now because
Speaker 1: here's what I think will happen. They're going to hold
Speaker 1: out the reopen as well. They're going to leverage reopen
Speaker 1: as a means of silencing political descent from people like
Speaker 1: me who are going to point to all the pork
Speaker 1: and all the special interest stuff and all the social
Speaker 1: justice warrior nonsense that's going to be contained in the
Speaker 1: in the save US package that Biden is putting out there.
Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom Life. This is the Buck Sexton
Speaker 1: Show podcast. But they need about we need about four
Speaker 1: hundred billion in funding from Congress to make all of it.
Speaker 1: I just said happen. It's a great deal. But I'm
Speaker 1: convinced we're ready to get this done. The very health
Speaker 1: of our nation is at stake. Our rescue plan also
Speaker 1: includes a media relief to Americans hardest hit and most
Speaker 1: in need. We will finish the job of getting a
Speaker 1: total of two thousand dollars in cash relief to people
Speaker 1: who needed the most. The six hundred dollars already appropriated
Speaker 1: simply not enough if you just have to choose between
Speaker 1: paying rent and putting food on the table. Even for
Speaker 1: those who kept their jobs, these checks are really important.
Speaker 1: See if you're an American worker making forty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year with less than four hundred dollars in savings,
Speaker 1: maybe you've lost hours, or maybe you're doing fewer shifts
Speaker 1: driving a truck or caring for the kids or the elderly.
Speaker 1: You're out there putting your life on the line to
Speaker 1: work during this pandemic and worried every week that you
Speaker 1: get sick, lose your job, or worse. Two thousand dollars
Speaker 1: is going to go a long way to ease that pain.
Speaker 1: Four hundred billion dollars to combat the pandemic, with money
Speaker 1: to accelerate the vaccine deployment. Three hundred and fifty billion
Speaker 1: dollars for state and local governments that have budget shortfalls.
Speaker 1: That's right, the blue cities that excessively shut down out
Speaker 1: of COVID panic, and also because it was bad for
Speaker 1: the economy and bad for Trump. That was, there were
Speaker 1: political calculations made here, No question. Three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: billion dollars going to them. That covers a lot of
Speaker 1: budget shortfalls. And what this means is that the taxpay
Speaker 1: are you those of you who live in redters states
Speaker 1: or places that didn't really lock down, you are now
Speaker 1: subsidizing the lockdown cities. That's what's happening. So, as I've
Speaker 1: been telling you along, if you think, oh, it's not
Speaker 1: that bad in my area, so this is more of
Speaker 1: a problem for the big cities or something, Nope, if
Speaker 1: you live in North Dakota, your federal income taxes now
Speaker 1: are going to pay for firefighters and teachers, unions and
Speaker 1: you name it. You know, sanitation workers in Los Angeles, Boston,
Speaker 1: New York, Washington, d C. That's what this is. And
Speaker 1: Pelosi's gambit as grotesque and and really just nasty as
Speaker 1: the whole thing was to hold up all this aid,
Speaker 1: I tell you the truth, and that means I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that worked worked the same way that you know
Speaker 1: that that Democrats complained so much about the gamble that
Speaker 1: the Republicans took by not putting forward, putting through I
Speaker 1: should say Merrick Garland for a vote in the Senate,
Speaker 1: and then Trump won in twenty sixteen, Nancy Pelosi held up,
Speaker 1: held up aid. The media did her bidding. It was terrible.
Speaker 1: People suffered. But now guess what Democrats get to be
Speaker 1: get to be the great distributor of goodies to the
Speaker 1: American people. This is gonna be tough. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. I don't mean that part is tough. I
Speaker 1: mean how we actually slow down the other aspects of
Speaker 1: the Democrat agenda without looking like we're saying no, don't
Speaker 1: give the American people aid an assistance. This is how
Speaker 1: they're doing it. They tie these things together and increasingly
Speaker 1: in what you'll see and the media will play a
Speaker 1: huge role in this is taking the Biden agenda, the
Speaker 1: whole legislative agenda, and making it seem like it's running
Speaker 1: in parallel. It's running in parallel with the reopen. So
Speaker 1: if you oppose the Biden agenda, aren't you really just
Speaker 1: opposing the reopen Because come on, they're getting money out there,
Speaker 1: they're getting going. We are heading into the toughest, the
Speaker 1: toughest time for American political opposition to the the Democrat
Speaker 1: left in a decade. That's what's happening right now. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening. To remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. The gas
Speaker 1: lighting over BLM is going to get worse and worse
Speaker 1: right now. They're going to completely change the history of
Speaker 1: that movement. And I remember it well because BLM was used.
Speaker 1: As I remember, there's some complexities here. There's actual BLM protests,
Speaker 1: there's Antifa taking it upon themselves to act on behalf
Speaker 1: of BLM, which they were doing constantly, and then there's
Speaker 1: just the looting and riots that would occur after a
Speaker 1: BLM protest but in the name of BLM. So there's
Speaker 1: there's these different components. But overall, if referring to the
Speaker 1: movement of Black Lives Matter, it resulted in a lot
Speaker 1: of destruction in American cities. It resulted in dozens of deaths.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the overall homicide rates in
Speaker 1: major American cities, they've as a percentage, gone up dramatically.
Speaker 1: They will just be prepared for this. The Democrats will
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, homicide is still at a ten year
Speaker 1: low in the country, or whatever it may be. Overall,
Speaker 1: that is true. The trajectory has been going down for
Speaker 1: a long time, which is fascinating. Isn't it. Because we're
Speaker 1: always told that if only we got rid of more,
Speaker 1: if only we harass lawful gun owners more, the crime
Speaker 1: rate wouldn't be so terrible. But meanwhile, there are more
Speaker 1: and more guns and people's hands. Of the last twenty years,
Speaker 1: you've got over three hundred million people who say, buck,
Speaker 1: it's five hundred million, but hundreds of millions of legal
Speaker 1: firearms in Americans hands. And yet the crime rate had
Speaker 1: been steadily going down for the last it's really long
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years. Crime overall has been going
Speaker 1: down for decades, but this year there is a jump up.
Speaker 1: This year you're seeing cities like New York and Boston
Speaker 1: and Chicago and Los Angeles. Don't I don't know all
Speaker 1: the numbers offhand, but you know you're talking about fifty
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent increases in shootings in some of
Speaker 1: these cities, really bad year to year increase. And that's
Speaker 1: a result of the change in police tactics from b
Speaker 1: LM and I'm sorry, change the police tactics from BLM's
Speaker 1: demands that there'll be less aggressive policing. And that's and
Speaker 1: also people not wanting to lose their jobs, their livelihoods,
Speaker 1: their pensions because they become a target of a BLM protester,
Speaker 1: or it becomes one of these cases. You saw this
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I mean, there was a guy who over
Speaker 1: the summer ran at a police officer with a knife drawn, screaming,
Speaker 1: clearly deranged, and you know, yes, the guy's mentally disturbed.
Speaker 1: It's a tragic situation. But the cop does not have
Speaker 1: an obligation to get stabbed in the face before he's
Speaker 1: and uses his weapon. This is all on video. We
Speaker 1: all thought they made an issue of that case. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're a police officer and you see that, you
Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, what exactly am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: And now, when you're driving on your patrol car, you
Speaker 1: don't you see something going on down that proverbial dark alley, right,
Speaker 1: you see something happening, you know, you just keep going
Speaker 1: unless you get a call that you can't ignore. You're
Speaker 1: you're just gonna focus on other things. Well, that makes
Speaker 1: everybody in the community less safe, That makes everybody more
Speaker 1: subject to random and wanton violence. But there's a big,
Speaker 1: big effort underway right now to make sure that the
Speaker 1: right is going to be treated like the exclusive the
Speaker 1: exclusive perpetrator of political violence. That's it's a narrative they're
Speaker 1: trying to build right now, that's what they're doing. You
Speaker 1: have the age for DC Carl Racine saying this about
Speaker 1: BLM protests. Now, by the way, we shouldn't be comparing
Speaker 1: BLM protests with Capitol riots, that's true, or with the
Speaker 1: Capitol riot. I should say we should not compare those things.
Speaker 1: We should compare the hundreds of BLM riots with the
Speaker 1: Capitol riots or riot sea isn't that important plural versus
Speaker 1: versus singular. But we should compare what happened in Kenosha,
Speaker 1: We should compare what happened in Minneapolis. We should compare
Speaker 1: those incidents with Capitol Hill. And then I think that's
Speaker 1: that's a much more apples to apples comparison. But anyway,
Speaker 1: here's what the District of Columbia AG has to say
Speaker 1: about a Place six in regards to Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: and the comparison to an attempt of insurrection at the Capitol.
Speaker 1: I think it speaks for itself when people like Honor
Speaker 1: will Madis made clear that what this was was an
Speaker 1: attempted insurrection into our democratic ways. We know quite easily
Speaker 1: that the Black Lives Matter protest was unbelievably different. And
Speaker 1: by the way, do not let anyone, including Ken Cucinelli
Speaker 1: or other elected officials, tell you that Democratic elected people
Speaker 1: did not condemn the violence that occurred during the summer protests.
Speaker 1: They always did, I always did. I get to tell you, though,
Speaker 1: trying to overturn an election with violence, including violence on
Speaker 1: police officers, is something very, very different. They should be
Speaker 1: held to account or their lives. Just not true that
Speaker 1: they all condemned the violence of b ELEMENT. It's just
Speaker 1: not true. We would hear not only did they not
Speaker 1: condemn the violence, but they also created this special epidemiological
Speaker 1: loophole for BLM to continue to do the protest that
Speaker 1: it was doing, for BLM to engage in this behavior
Speaker 1: while we are supposed to all be avoiding crowds and gatherings. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's about saving black lives, though they told us
Speaker 1: that was the line. Therefore, it's it's actually protecting life
Speaker 1: to have massive crowds gathered. Now, you've heard me say
Speaker 1: many times the virus doesn't really spread outdoors according to
Speaker 1: the actual science. But I also don't think if you're
Speaker 1: gathered in a tightly packed crowd of a thousand people
Speaker 1: screaming for hours on end. I mean it might the
Speaker 1: virus might spread a little bit there. I think that's
Speaker 1: fair to say walking down the street alone, no, but
Speaker 1: if you are all together in a very dense crowd,
Speaker 1: that may change. Anyway. They created a special exception for that.
Speaker 1: But the Democrats mobilize with this. The Democrats mobilized their
Speaker 1: base in the election year. As I said, they were
Speaker 1: all along. This was effective for them. The people who
Speaker 1: are telling you that everything was fine, that Trump had
Speaker 1: this under control, that there was a plan, that they
Speaker 1: were wrong. They were wrong about the preparations for the
Speaker 1: election beforehand. With regard to challenging all these the way
Speaker 1: the way they were switching, the deadlines and mail and
Speaker 1: ballot procedures and all this. The Trump campaign did did
Speaker 1: not get ahead of that issue. And I've spoken to
Speaker 1: people who are on the campaign about this. The Trump
Speaker 1: campaign didn't get ahead of that. The messaging around BLM
Speaker 1: and Antifa was not strong enough. The President kept tweeting
Speaker 1: out law and order. It was insufficient obviously. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have the president the United States, you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be law and order. A guy and you had riots
Speaker 1: and mayhem from Democrats for basically the whole summer. This
Speaker 1: was this was not a good look. As they say,
Speaker 1: this did not work out well. But now you're going
Speaker 1: to see the So look, I want us to understand
Speaker 1: what happened so we can do better going forward. I
Speaker 1: think that's necessary. I think that's helpful for us. Well,
Speaker 1: we can also look at what they're what they're going
Speaker 1: to do now and understand their plan and rewriting the
Speaker 1: history of black lives matter and making i mean the
Speaker 1: Capitol Hill riot I'm seeing today. They're saying that there
Speaker 1: were guys who wanted to break in there and they
Speaker 1: they were going to take members of Congress hostage or something.
Speaker 1: And at least in one case, they're referring to somebody
Speaker 1: who ran in there with like a like a beaver
Speaker 1: pelt on his head and all painted up, who's also
Speaker 1: told authority since he's been a custody that he thinks
Speaker 1: he's a member of an alien race. I'm being serious.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who's who's clearly has
Speaker 1: has like mental illness problems, serious ones. But but you
Speaker 1: and I, because we voted for Trump, were responsible for
Speaker 1: for this guy why I had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: this person. I don't support him. I think that I
Speaker 1: think person needs needs honest and serious like theatric assistance.
Speaker 1: And then there's also this, so there's that you're being told,
Speaker 1: oh there, that this was this was the equivalent of
Speaker 1: an armed insurrection to overthrow the United States government. That's
Speaker 1: the way the media is reporting on this when we've
Speaker 1: all seen that, Yes, there's somebody. They killed the police officer,
Speaker 1: they were in a fight that they shouldn't have been in.
Speaker 1: They caused a fight, and they attack cops and you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do this, and this is wrong. I don't think
Speaker 1: they intended to kill that officer with the with the
Speaker 1: fire I mean with the fire extinguisher, but they did,
Speaker 1: and they have to be held fully accountable. But there
Speaker 1: are also gradations here, there are levels that we have
Speaker 1: to take an account. What's the difference between a riot
Speaker 1: and the kind of insurrection that the media is talking
Speaker 1: about right now for obvious political purposes. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could have had people and God forbid, and everyone should
Speaker 1: be peaceful. And I don't think I don't think any
Speaker 1: any protests right now before the inauguration. It doesn't I
Speaker 1: don't think it serves anyone's purpose for the movement. I
Speaker 1: really don't. I don't think it's a good idea. I mean,
Speaker 1: peaceful protests fine, but I just would prefer personally that
Speaker 1: everything just right now, we calm down the Biden administrations
Speaker 1: coming into power. Let's let that, Let's let the peaceful
Speaker 1: transfer happen, and then we can start having bigger demonstrations, peaceful,
Speaker 1: law abiding ones about what's going on. And let's also
Speaker 1: be honest. The Democrats won't care and the media won't
Speaker 1: cover it, and we don't have Trump anymore at the
Speaker 1: head of the movement. So you know, this is I
Speaker 1: don't know. I hope everyone appreciates. This show is like
Speaker 1: reality hour. I'm seeing some of what other conservatives are
Speaker 1: putting out there right now, and they're just I don't
Speaker 1: really know a lot of people, a lot of people
Speaker 1: got very far just just grabbing onto the Trumpster. Oh
Speaker 1: as long as I talk about how awesome Trump is,
Speaker 1: everybody will like me and listen to me or watch
Speaker 1: me or whatever. Okay, Well that doesn't work anymore. That's
Speaker 1: not going to happen now. I think Trump is going
Speaker 1: to continue to have a voice once he leaves office
Speaker 1: and will play a role in movement. How big a role,
Speaker 1: I don't know, But we gotta tend to what's going on,
Speaker 1: what's going on right now. Um oh, I was talking
Speaker 1: about the layers of analysis here. We'd have to apply
Speaker 1: to the Capitol Hill what they're calling the insurrection. Insurrection
Speaker 1: in other countries would involve sending people with automatic weapons
Speaker 1: to overtake with force and to hold and to say
Speaker 1: we're in charge now, and we're the government now. That's
Speaker 1: that's really what an insurrection is. So that's that's completely
Speaker 1: To think that what happened at Capitol Hill rises to
Speaker 1: that level, which is how they're treating it, that's that's
Speaker 1: just not honest analysis of the situation. There was no reality,
Speaker 1: There was no future in which they were going to
Speaker 1: hold the capitol and hold the government. A lot of
Speaker 1: the people in there were just running around like idiots,
Speaker 1: taking selfies, and you know, they thought that this was
Speaker 1: some kind of a don't I don't even know, honestly,
Speaker 1: what they were thinking is a little bit beyond me.
Speaker 1: Not the people outside who are holding up placards and
Speaker 1: protesting and saying that they're concerned and they feel the
Speaker 1: election was stolen, and then I totally get where they're
Speaker 1: coming from. But running around inside the capitol, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to me. And it's a lot worse than
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even put my mind in
Speaker 1: a place where I could see how that decision would
Speaker 1: be made. But then there's also the first person that
Speaker 1: we've seen here who is in agent provocateurs, somebody who
Speaker 1: is clearly a BLM left wing activist who was encouraging
Speaker 1: people inside the Capitol to engage in this kind of behavior.
Speaker 1: He's basically saying, Yeah, this is great, let's go Ryant.
Speaker 1: You know he's been on CNN before too. There's federal
Speaker 1: charges now filed against the guy, so he was. There
Speaker 1: were leftists, There were leftists throwing gasoline on the fire.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of a lot of my people,
Speaker 1: though a lot of Trump supporters, that's also true. But
Speaker 1: we have at least one leftist now that the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice has said was in their exacerbating things and
Speaker 1: making things worse, and they're they're bringing serious, serious charges
Speaker 1: against him. You're in the freedom mud. This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Podcast. My office was tasked with the
Speaker 1: responsibility of launching a civil investigation into the New York
Speaker 1: City Police Department's response to these protests. But we found
Speaker 1: was an egregious abuse of police power, rampant excessive use
Speaker 1: of force, and leadership unable and unwilling to stop it.
Speaker 1: There you have the Attorney General for New York, Leticia James,
Speaker 1: who has said that she's going to use her She's
Speaker 1: been open about her use her prosecutorial powers to go
Speaker 1: after Trump, and not just while he's in office, getting
Speaker 1: ready for that. She's calling out the NYPD's that's the problem.
Speaker 1: You see, this is very deeply ingrained and the Democrat
Speaker 1: left mindset that the issue with with violence in cities,
Speaker 1: and the and the and the problem with these protests
Speaker 1: that turned into riots is the cops. The real problems
Speaker 1: the cops. This is going to be commonplace. You're gonna
Speaker 1: hear this all the way from the very top. They'll
Speaker 1: always say this, they'll do this, this this throat clearing
Speaker 1: about you know, or we respect her, you know, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden will say, oh, we respect her law enforcement officers, comma.
Speaker 1: But there's so much racism with cops and cops are
Speaker 1: so racist and they're bad, and we need to stop
Speaker 1: them from being such racists. Say, well, if cops are
Speaker 1: so bad and so racist, how are you Why why
Speaker 1: would you respect them, Joe Biden? Why would you think
Speaker 1: that they deserve the benefit of the doubt for doing
Speaker 1: what's a very difficult and even dangerous job. But this
Speaker 1: is this is just that's just to cover themselves so
Speaker 1: that some people go, well, I guess the Democrats don't really,
Speaker 1: they're not really willing to. And look when I say
Speaker 1: they hate the cops, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 1: they're all going to call them. First of all, they've
Speaker 1: all got security details start with that. They've they've all
Speaker 1: got personal police. But even beyond that, yeah, of course
Speaker 1: they'd call the cops the moment that somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody's baseball fell and Nancy's petunia is in her backyard
Speaker 1: of her mansion in San Francisco. They don't hate copses,
Speaker 1: and they don't want to use the cops, but they
Speaker 1: will pretend, they will play kate that sentiment that the
Speaker 1: police are the real problem. And this is why you've
Speaker 1: got Latsia James, the Attorney General for New York State, saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the issue here is that the NYPD they were really
Speaker 1: out of line. They were really doing bad stuff. That's
Speaker 1: interesting because I remember when I was talking to people
Speaker 1: who work in my building. I live in a tall
Speaker 1: apartment building in New York City, and there's a staff
Speaker 1: that works in the building, and there was some at
Speaker 1: the front desk, and they were worried about what would
Speaker 1: happen if somebody came in and SMA, the smashed up
Speaker 1: the lobby. It's all glass, smashed up the lobby and
Speaker 1: started smashing you know, what do they do? This was
Speaker 1: on the Purge night when they were smashing windows across
Speaker 1: the street. So this isn't some some irrational fear to
Speaker 1: have when there's mobs of people running through the streets
Speaker 1: freely and breaking stores and breaking store windows and stealing stuff,
Speaker 1: including on Fifth Avenue in one of the most visible
Speaker 1: and high end shopping districts in the whole world. It's
Speaker 1: understandable why you'd be concerned. Who's gonna come and help
Speaker 1: me if this mob decides that they want to start
Speaker 1: going after private homes. Who's gonna Who's gonna help me?
Speaker 1: If the mob decides that they don't like the look
Speaker 1: on my face and they're gonna this is Oh, but
Speaker 1: the cops were the problem that night, right, The cops
Speaker 1: were the problem for the riots that kept happening and
Speaker 1: happening and happening. Did Democrats ever call for it to stop?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Do you remember a single prominent
Speaker 1: Democrat coming forward and saying, you're really the BLM movement's
Speaker 1: really about police for form and making this a better country,
Speaker 1: So we have to absolutely stop all acts of destruction
Speaker 1: and criminal behavior. Do you remember that speech? Well, I
Speaker 1: know you don't because it didn't happen. There was no
Speaker 1: Democrat who was making that point. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: Do you think that Joe Biden should pardon Trump as
Speaker 1: Ford did Nixon. I don't know he should, at least
Speaker 1: he should consider it. Now. I don't know whether Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: he's not a genius, but he might figure out that
Speaker 1: if he accepts a pardon, that's an admission of guilt.
Speaker 1: At the United States Supreme Court has said, so, I
Speaker 1: don't know that he would accept a pardon, but as
Speaker 1: part of healing the country and getting us to a
Speaker 1: place where we can focus on things that are going
Speaker 1: to matter over the next four years. I think Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's going to have to least think about that, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden pardoning Trump for what exactly. Trump wouldn't accept it,
Speaker 1: because the only thing that they leave at this point,
Speaker 1: and after all the fake charges and we'll talk in
Speaker 1: a second about the declassifying of documents that that's expected
Speaker 1: to happen today or imminently, the fake charges out there
Speaker 1: that they used over the years, the Russia collusion and
Speaker 1: treason and all this stuff. Now they're going to get
Speaker 1: them on incitement to violence. Gonna be pretty tough. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty tough to convince a fair minded jury.
Speaker 1: I mean, all you need is one person who's basically
Speaker 1: a Republican because it would become very political. Any jury
Speaker 1: pool would be inherently tainted, right, all you need those
Speaker 1: one Republican on a jury. You just need one, do
Speaker 1: you hear? He said, go be peaceful at the Capitol
Speaker 1: and have your voices heard. And a bunch of people
Speaker 1: decided to destroy and destroy things and attack cops that's
Speaker 1: not on him, right, So saying that he won the
Speaker 1: election by a landslide might be improper and you know,
Speaker 1: not accurate, not true. But we're talking about incite into insurrection.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about some bessing about an election that
Speaker 1: he should have been He should have been more clear
Speaker 1: on exactly where where we had proof and what proof
Speaker 1: we had. So I don't think that you'd be able
Speaker 1: to get a conviction. So that means that that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump would not accept. Why would you accept a pardon
Speaker 1: for a conviction, I'm sorry, a pardon for a crime
Speaker 1: that you had not committed. I don't think that will happen.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating that James Comey is still elevated by the media.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not surprising, but you have to dig
Speaker 1: into this for a second. Here's a guy who acted
Speaker 1: like a scorned high school teenager when he was fired
Speaker 1: by Trump and then released documents of his own his
Speaker 1: own memos to the New York Times. But he outmaneuvered
Speaker 1: Trump on getting a special counsel done. This is the
Speaker 1: truth I know, and now we get Now we get
Speaker 1: to finally say about the four D chests and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. What's true, what's not? Where was Trump amazing?
Speaker 1: Trump was amazing on saying things that other people were
Speaker 1: unwilling to say that were true. Trump was amazing on
Speaker 1: fighting the media and driving them completely insane and making
Speaker 1: them make utter buffoons of themselves. Right, there were so
Speaker 1: much and also just understanding this whole piece of America, right,
Speaker 1: seventy five million Trump voters the last time around, but
Speaker 1: understanding what they're frustrated about, why they're not getting a
Speaker 1: fair deal, and what could be done, what could be
Speaker 1: done by the government to make things better. So I
Speaker 1: understand all the most the biggest assets that Trump brings
Speaker 1: to bear. But on the whole, oh he's four dh
Speaker 1: This is what I was saying. We weren't allowed to
Speaker 1: from his own team try to make it better. We
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to do it. People didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: You had to just be out there saying everything was amazing.
Speaker 1: You know, had to be you know, it's like we
Speaker 1: were all Trump's therapist. Oh you're doing great, everything's great,
Speaker 1: You're doing a fantastic job. You know, go easier on
Speaker 1: yourself because everything's great. But on the Special Council and
Speaker 1: how that went down, obviously, James Comey was able to
Speaker 1: do real harm to the administration. It was it was
Speaker 1: deeply harmful to have the Special Council investigating them. It
Speaker 1: was more challenging. I think a lot of people realize
Speaker 1: because I spoke to individuals who had to get lawyers,
Speaker 1: and they were really worried about getting the Papadopolis treatment,
Speaker 1: where they're just coming after you. They have member the
Speaker 1: federal government aid. Federal government prosecutors in this case had
Speaker 1: endless resources, endless resources to come after whoever they wanted to. Basically,
Speaker 1: they spend forty million dollars. I mean, how many people
Speaker 1: have one hundred thousand dollars of their own amount of
Speaker 1: legal defense. Not very many. So they've got forty million
Speaker 1: dollars at their disposed. Those lawyers get paid, Those prosecutors,
Speaker 1: the Special Counsel get paid. Whether they win or lose
Speaker 1: doesn't matter really to them. And your life is on
Speaker 1: the line essentially, certainly your reputation and your freedom are
Speaker 1: as well as your finances, your life savings. And the
Speaker 1: truth is they were they were using the process as
Speaker 1: a weapon in an effective way. They were using the
Speaker 1: process as a weapon in a way that we have
Speaker 1: to be aware of because it largely worked. It was
Speaker 1: mostly mostly effective. Now they didn't get what they wanted
Speaker 1: in the end, which was the impeachment and removal of
Speaker 1: Trump from office using the Special Counsel Report as a roadmap.
Speaker 1: But as I've told you, I think that's because Attorney
Speaker 1: General bar saw what they were trying to do and
Speaker 1: headed them off at the pass, which is also why
Speaker 1: I refused to join the AG. Bar was a sellout
Speaker 1: and a deep state fake and all the stuff that
Speaker 1: people were saying about that, I don't think that was fair.
Speaker 1: People are entitled their opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't
Speaker 1: think that was fair. I don't think that was fair
Speaker 1: to somebody that did a lot for the administration and
Speaker 1: understands the threat from the left, would and would speak
Speaker 1: openly about what the left is doing to this country.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to get even more information. But there's
Speaker 1: a there's a frustration, a clear frustration that I have
Speaker 1: around this because Trump is going to declassify. I spoke
Speaker 1: to the President about declassifying and told him that he
Speaker 1: should in twenty eighteen, I think it was two years
Speaker 1: and change ago. I was in the Oval Office with
Speaker 1: the President. It was before I was doing an interview
Speaker 1: with him and I was like, sir, you're going to declassify, right, No, Nope,
Speaker 1: didn't declassify. And I think that there's going to be there.
Speaker 1: They're going to release documents now. That's that's at least
Speaker 1: what the reporting is saying. Okay, so what are we
Speaker 1: going to do with it? Now? What You're going to
Speaker 1: declassify a whole bunch of stuff about Russia collusion. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out that Hillary Clinton was a fraud
Speaker 1: in this whole thing, and she knew what was going on,
Speaker 1: that she used the Russia collusion scam to try to
Speaker 1: offset her very real email scam which was not going
Speaker 1: away the email crisis for her for the election, and
Speaker 1: that this was all manufactured by the DNC. And Christopher
Speaker 1: Steele has ties to Fiona Hill and that's coming out,
Speaker 1: and there's all these different moving pieces. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: we'll get some truth and transparency on this. And I
Speaker 1: know there is still a Durham probe, there is still
Speaker 1: a special counsel that could do something, But I think
Speaker 1: it's unrealistic to believe that this is somehow going to
Speaker 1: be so much better. This is going to be so
Speaker 1: much better now. You know, we are going into a
Speaker 1: Biden administration. They're going to be in charge of the government,
Speaker 1: and we're going to know more of the truth of
Speaker 1: Russia collusion, and then what are we going to do?
Speaker 1: What are we going to do about it? You know?
Speaker 1: This is this is where we are. I've I wanted
Speaker 1: this to get out two years ago. I said to
Speaker 1: release information now, and nope, oh no, you know, trust
Speaker 1: trust in the four dhs. That's what we were told. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not not really the plan that it needed to be.
Speaker 1: I've also been very very clear with you about how
Speaker 1: the the purge of Trump from Twitter was just the
Speaker 1: beginning of a longer term effort. You have Jack Dorsey.
Speaker 1: This is from a Twitter a Twitter insider recording Jack
Speaker 1: Dorsey talking about the political censorship that we should all
Speaker 1: be expecting going forward. So, as I've said, they want
Speaker 1: us all to concede on this stuff. Oh, Trump's a
Speaker 1: clear and present danger. We need the right to make
Speaker 1: political determinations about whether there's someone it's just too dangerous
Speaker 1: to public discourse to kick them off of social media platforms.
Speaker 1: But we've been led to believe that that stops when
Speaker 1: Biden comes into office and that everything will calm down. No, no,
Speaker 1: why would they do that. They like this, This is
Speaker 1: enormously helpful to them. Here is Jack Dorsey himself telling everybody,
Speaker 1: this is a bigger plan, folks play fifteen. You know,
Speaker 1: we are focused on one account right now, but this
Speaker 1: is going to be much bigger than just want to count,
Speaker 1: and it's going to go on for much longer than
Speaker 1: just this day, this week, for the next few weeks,
Speaker 1: to go on beyond the inauguration. We have to expect
Speaker 1: that we haven't being ready for that. So the focus
Speaker 1: is certainly on this account and how it ties into
Speaker 1: real Roald violence, but also we need to think much
Speaker 1: longer term around how do these dynamics play out over time.
Speaker 1: I don't believe this is going away anytime soon, and
Speaker 1: the moves that we're making today around Quanon, for instance,
Speaker 1: to one such an example of a much broader approach
Speaker 1: that we should be looking at and in current Keepron.
Speaker 1: So the team has a lot of work and a
Speaker 1: lot of focus on this particular issue. We also need
Speaker 1: to get in the space and the support to focus
Speaker 1: on the much bigger picture because it is not going away.
Speaker 1: I'm there. You know, the the US is extremely divided.
Speaker 1: Our platform is showing that every single day, and our
Speaker 1: role is to protect the integrity of that conversation and
Speaker 1: do what we can to make sure that no one
Speaker 1: is being harmed based on that, And that is the focus,
Speaker 1: and that is the color we want to provide, protect
Speaker 1: the integrity of the conversation. Maybe we could take that
Speaker 1: a little more seriously from the CEO of one of
Speaker 1: the biggest social media platforms on the planet. Maybe we
Speaker 1: could listen to them without wanting to just either gaffall
Speaker 1: in laughter or cry at the absurdity of this. If
Speaker 1: they hadn't allowed the President of the United States to
Speaker 1: be called a traitor and a Russian asset for four years,
Speaker 1: I mean they've done it all four years, and to
Speaker 1: lie and lie endlessly and pedal false information using platforms
Speaker 1: like Twitter about Russia collusion. Maybe then we could listen
Speaker 1: to this and not feel like it was such an
Speaker 1: obvious and transparent fraud. But this is this is the future,
Speaker 1: and I do believe it's a wake up call to
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of conservatives out there,
Speaker 1: that we need Some of us have been calling for
Speaker 1: this for a long time, and we need to start
Speaker 1: setting up more infrastructure. We need an entire information ecosystem
Speaker 1: that is a business. It has to be a business.
Speaker 1: It can't be just charities. It can't be sending more
Speaker 1: checks the Heritage Foundation. It has to be a functioning,
Speaker 1: standalone ecosystem of with profit and loss and you know,
Speaker 1: growth strategy. We got to have the media component of it.
Speaker 1: You have to have sales and advertising, the actual digital
Speaker 1: infrastructure and and this this all needs to happen because
Speaker 1: otherwise you're going to be at weirdo Jack Dorsey's Mercy.
Speaker 1: That's where this is all heading. You're in the Freedom
Speaker 1: und This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. I
Speaker 1: wonder if you have thought through kind of how Republicans
Speaker 1: begin what someone on my team earlier today called deep
Speaker 1: bathification of the Republican Party. And I wonder if Liz Cheney,
Speaker 1: you know, her statement being the thing that Republicans used,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Democrats us sorry to explain why they
Speaker 1: need to impeak Donald Trump. Is there a little wing
Speaker 1: of the Republican Party that you think can do this
Speaker 1: sort of debathification of the party and can it work?
Speaker 1: At this point? It's interesting debathification refers to removing bath
Speaker 1: party officials from the government to military infrastructure in Iraq
Speaker 1: post US invasion two thousand and three. MSNBC's Joy Reid
Speaker 1: seems to think that de bathification worked out well. Women
Speaker 1: did not. It led to continued, long standing insurgency a
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of violence, but she wants de bathification of
Speaker 1: the GOP. This also makes me think to somebody else
Speaker 1: who knows quite a bit about what happened in Iraq.
Speaker 1: My friend Brandon Webb joins us right now. He is
Speaker 1: a former Navy seal and best selling author. You can
Speaker 1: also check out his latest and his team's latest at
Speaker 1: softrep dot com. Brandon, good to see you. Good to
Speaker 1: see you, Buck. So we have some really overheated political
Speaker 1: rhetoric going on right now. Tell me about about what
Speaker 1: your thought are with with all these many, many thousands
Speaker 1: of National Guard troops. Who are I think they're they're
Speaker 1: carrying like six full mags and I mean they they
Speaker 1: they're armed up for looks like counterinsurgency operations. What's going on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I've never, to be honest, I've never felt
Speaker 1: so close to the brink of potential civil war in America.
Speaker 1: I would never thought I would even utter those words.
Speaker 1: The thing that's you know, as a former seal and
Speaker 1: a combat veteran that I find, um, I find it
Speaker 1: a little funny that you know, Pelosi and Gang feel
Speaker 1: comfortable calling essentially what are reservists. So these are kids
Speaker 1: that are in school, um, you know, part time army,
Speaker 1: and they're being summoned to the Capitol. Probably most of
Speaker 1: them never had any combat experience or combat service. These
Speaker 1: like young kids, and are they really going to be
Speaker 1: pitted against armed, angry Americans in the Capitol. I just like,
Speaker 1: I can't see a nineteen year old kid really drawing
Speaker 1: down with an M for assault rifle on a fellow American.
Speaker 1: So I just see that. You know that what the
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing is just throwing gas on the fire
Speaker 1: and just making things worse, Like let's let's just let
Speaker 1: the process run its course. Um, but you know, pushing
Speaker 1: that all these National Guard and obviously you know, now
Speaker 1: the you know, Biden has the most of the press
Speaker 1: behind him, um, at least the liberal media, and they're
Speaker 1: just pushing this in the headlines to kind of thinking
Speaker 1: that this is going to kind of quell the situation.
Speaker 1: And it's just not the case, like these these are
Speaker 1: like young kids. Yeah, well and and they're they're showing
Speaker 1: all these photos of them sleeping on the marble floors
Speaker 1: of the United States Capital and and they're they're you
Speaker 1: everyn Remember, DC already has a tremendous security presence. I
Speaker 1: mean you've got all the different that the presence of
Speaker 1: all the different federal law enforcement agencies, you know, Secret
Speaker 1: Service and and people that work uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: at the FBI, And I mean they've all got fully
Speaker 1: automatic weapons and all kinds of tactical gear and you know,
Speaker 1: and then you add to this metro police and everything
Speaker 1: else we need. What is it nine thousand or something.
Speaker 1: National Guard has been deployed in DC right now. It
Speaker 1: feels like what are they What are they really prepared for?
Speaker 1: Because they're not They're they're not looking like they're prepared
Speaker 1: for crowd control brand And that that's the part of
Speaker 1: this that I think is some people so uneasy. Summoning
Speaker 1: the National Guard to DC is like bringing a knife
Speaker 1: to a gunfight. Like if you really want to be prepared,
Speaker 1: like sending the Ranger battalion, you know, like that's like
Speaker 1: a serious, um you know, threat response, but it's just again,
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like, really we're you know, we're
Speaker 1: at the point where, you know, the things that the
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing just to kind of egg egg people on.
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't understand like why they're escalating
Speaker 1: this to to a certain level when when it should
Speaker 1: be about de escalization and getting back to you know,
Speaker 1: the what the founding fathers wanted us to do is
Speaker 1: like a government elected by the people or the people. Um,
Speaker 1: I just it's a it's an interesting time. And like
Speaker 1: I said, I have a lot of friends who are nervous.
Speaker 1: Um rightfully, so I think that a lot of Americans
Speaker 1: are fed up. They're fed up with the electoral process.
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're essentially in the dark ages like
Speaker 1: we might as well just you know, be an African republic, right,
Speaker 1: Like we're counting ballots by hand. This is this is
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty one. We should be voting on cell phones. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just and again, we have this elect
Speaker 1: electoral process that delivers us really two poor choices every
Speaker 1: four years. So so Brandon, before we before we let
Speaker 1: you go, just tell everybody what you're what you're working
Speaker 1: on right now, because we haven't heard from you in
Speaker 1: a while. I know you got some things in the pipeline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know I'm still running software dot com. We
Speaker 1: started a Mastermind group for professionals and that I'm I'm
Speaker 1: actually leading myself, called the Red Circle Mastermind. I'm excited
Speaker 1: about that. It's essentially a place where where people we
Speaker 1: can create accountability together and drive people towards towards their goals.
Speaker 1: And I think twenty twenty one is going to be
Speaker 1: a challenging year, but there's a lot of opportunities on
Speaker 1: the horizon. And if anyone wants to check that out,
Speaker 1: that that's just my last name, web dot Team, um,
Speaker 1: web dot team dot com, and that'll throw you right
Speaker 1: into the Mastermind group. But that that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I'm up to you right now. Well real quick, what's
Speaker 1: a Mastermind group? Essentially? You could think of it as
Speaker 1: a group of professionals like you are, who you hang
Speaker 1: out with. So I'm building this group of professionals that
Speaker 1: want to hold themselves accountable, set purpose and goals in
Speaker 1: their life, and have a system and an environment that
Speaker 1: creates accountability for that. So all right, well, Brandon, thanks
Speaker 1: for your service and your expertise. My friend. Always good
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thanks for listening to The Bus
Speaker 1: Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's not
Speaker 1: going to stop with Trump. You know that there are
Speaker 1: other people they want to make an example of. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about elected officials. They want to humiliate them, they
Speaker 1: want to get rid of them. If you have been
Speaker 1: effective at all in opposition to the Democrat agenda, you're
Speaker 1: now a target for Democrats to expel you, to override
Speaker 1: the will of those voters. And it starts with things
Speaker 1: like calls for censorship. You remember a curious jilla brand
Speaker 1: senator from New York, a severe mediocrity, and that's probably
Speaker 1: too kind. She was one who looks she'll say whatever
Speaker 1: she has to say, whatever she has to say it.
Speaker 1: But I guess that's true of a lot of politicians.
Speaker 1: But she wants a censure motion for Ted Cruise and
Speaker 1: Josh Holly play fourteen. President Trump was not the only
Speaker 1: person egging on supporters or pushing the election lie. He
Speaker 1: had two lieutenants in the Senate leading the charge on
Speaker 1: the election fraud. Line, and that was Ted Cruise and
Speaker 1: Josh Holly. Do you think they should face consequences? I do,
Speaker 1: and I think we should consider a censure motion for
Speaker 1: both of them again to continue the lie that the
Speaker 1: Electoral College votes shouldn't have been counted, that some extra
Speaker 1: judicious review was necessary after it's been through the courts,
Speaker 1: certified by States Business, the States Rights issue. I think
Speaker 1: it was extremely irresponsible, and I think the appropriate response
Speaker 1: would be a centure motion. Cent your motion. You think
Speaker 1: they're gonna leave it there? No, of course not have
Speaker 1: there been any centure motions for Democrat officials who pushed
Speaker 1: the Russia collusion hoax. You'll notice there's a very important
Speaker 1: difference you see here in the timelines. The left lied
Speaker 1: about Trump not winning the twenty sixteen election for first
Speaker 1: entire presidency. They've never been willing to admit that that
Speaker 1: was a lie. That they don't admit that that was
Speaker 1: all a fraud, and they've they faced no consequences for
Speaker 1: it whatsoever through any process or anything else. Right, They've
Speaker 1: just maybe some people who pay attention to the public
Speaker 1: realize that these people are liars and they're disgraceful, But
Speaker 1: there's no actions taken against them, and in any case,
Speaker 1: they won the twenty sixteen election, I mean twenty twenty
Speaker 1: election against Trump, so they feel like this was a
Speaker 1: win for them. They feel like this was a good
Speaker 1: a good thing. Well, all right, now we see that
Speaker 1: they want to take this and they want us to
Speaker 1: forget about the fact that Republicans had questions about an
Speaker 1: election and Trump supporters and voters and the GOP had
Speaker 1: questions about an election that lasted essentially until the votes
Speaker 1: were counted in the Congress, and of course there was
Speaker 1: the riot. The riot was awful. But since then, I mean,
Speaker 1: the GOP said, all right, I mean, it's this is done.
Speaker 1: Trump has said it. This is Joe Biden's going to
Speaker 1: be the president. Democrats, yes, I understand, they accepted through
Speaker 1: the process that Trump was going to be the president.
Speaker 1: But then they created an end run on that process
Speaker 1: with the FBI investigation, a crossfire hurricane, and the special
Speaker 1: counsel and the entire media apparatus lying about the president
Speaker 1: as a traitor. And they actually took this to the courts.
Speaker 1: I mean they took this too. They took this all
Speaker 1: the way. They went to the FISA court and then
Speaker 1: they went all the way with the special counsel, no
Speaker 1: accountability for that whatsoever, and they that was the whole
Speaker 1: thing was a lie. Trump and the Trump campaign had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Russia. Russia didn't change the election outcome,
Speaker 1: although sixty to seventy percent of Democrats thought Russia actually
Speaker 1: changed the numbers that the voting machines were counting, just
Speaker 1: to get just to give you a sense of of
Speaker 1: how much there was there. So it's it's frustrating as
Speaker 1: all hacked to see right now that they're they're claiming
Speaker 1: that this is some unprecedented, unprecedented threat to our our
Speaker 1: election integrity by challenging or by questioning the outcome of
Speaker 1: the election through the courts, not talking about the riot.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about through the courts. When what the Democrats
Speaker 1: did was they realized they couldn't win this thing through
Speaker 1: the actual process, so they tried to create some separate,
Speaker 1: you know, torpedo the Trump presidency process by running with
Speaker 1: this Russia collusion lie and using the deep state and
Speaker 1: the secretiveness of the fives of courts to get all
Speaker 1: this stuff up and running, and then to filter through
Speaker 1: the media, to use the media as a megaphone to
Speaker 1: give credibility to the lie. That's what they did. Now
Speaker 1: you have really extreme stuff being said here by a
Speaker 1: whole lot of people on the left, and we had
Speaker 1: Kirsten Gillibrand saying that we should have a vote of censure.
Speaker 1: But Iona Pressley, member of the so called squad, Congresswoman
Speaker 1: Iona Pressley, she wants people who were supporting Trump or
Speaker 1: who were questioning the election, she wants them gone play four.
Speaker 1: So the first step is impeach and remove, which is
Speaker 1: also about ensuring that he cannot be so that he
Speaker 1: is barred from running from public office again. The second
Speaker 1: is to expel, to expel those members who have aided
Speaker 1: and embedded and been complicit and the cruelty, the corruption,
Speaker 1: and the criminality of this administration, who perpetuated the big
Speaker 1: lie complicit in the administration. They must be must be expelled, expelled,
Speaker 1: you see, for their perpetuation. The big lie Democrats lied
Speaker 1: about the President's Russia collusion ties for four years and
Speaker 1: they still do. Okay, So I really don't want to
Speaker 1: be lectured by them about that. The only thing that
Speaker 1: they are the only thing that needs condemnation here in
Speaker 1: a clear and full throated sense, that is of real
Speaker 1: concern is the Capitol Hill riot, the stuff about the
Speaker 1: election and people that Ted Cruz and others who wanted
Speaker 1: the presentation of evidence. If a huge part of the country,
Speaker 1: and it's not such a crazy thing to think that
Speaker 1: a lot of the country would have a problem with this.
Speaker 1: We went to bed thinking Donald Trump won the election.
Speaker 1: The next morning we wake up and it's, oh, actually,
Speaker 1: because of changes in voting procedure, Joe Biden won. That's
Speaker 1: basically what happened. I think it's understandable that a lot
Speaker 1: of people think, oh, that doesn't feel right, and it's
Speaker 1: the it's the end consequence of all the changes and
Speaker 1: all the Democrat games they play, you know, with all
Speaker 1: the early voting and earlier and earlier and mail in
Speaker 1: and all these things that they do. You know, why
Speaker 1: not just have an election that lasts for a year.
Speaker 1: The whole year. You can vote any time in the
Speaker 1: whole year. We'll know. Because they're supposed to be a
Speaker 1: defined point in time when people come, when the American
Speaker 1: people come to a decision. That's the way it's supposed
Speaker 1: to happen. With some you know, some special exceptions for
Speaker 1: people overseas in the military, or people that have some
Speaker 1: understandable and clear need to vote to vote absentee. You
Speaker 1: know I voted absentee in two thousand and eight. I
Speaker 1: was in Iraq, so it was going to be really
Speaker 1: hard for me to get to a polling center because
Speaker 1: I was in Baghdad. You know that it wasn't going
Speaker 1: to be an easy thing to do. So and we
Speaker 1: get to the judgment involved of some of these individuals,
Speaker 1: the judgment that some of these individuals have. H Iona Pressley,
Speaker 1: who was the one who said, but they must expel
Speaker 1: those in the GOP who are complicit in the criminality
Speaker 1: of the administration. He or she is saying that, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll just let her say at play five. These foss
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just it's criminal behavior. Don I don't
Speaker 1: know what else to call it. They have been complicit
Speaker 1: from the very beginning, and their willful criminality to carry
Speaker 1: the water for Donald Trump and these science denials which
Speaker 1: allowed this pandemic to rage out of control, and then
Speaker 1: by refusing to wear masks. This is criminal behavior. That's
Speaker 1: chemical warfare, so far as I'm concerned, and again, this
Speaker 1: is exactly why we should be moving. And I was
Speaker 1: very proud to be an original postponsor Representative Bush's resolution
Speaker 1: calling for the expulsion of these members they are unfit
Speaker 1: to serve. You know, don When they took us to
Speaker 1: the quote unquote safe room and I walked in and
Speaker 1: saw that there was this contingent of anti maskers in
Speaker 1: the room gathered, I immediately exited. So imagine in that
Speaker 1: moment the choice that I was making. And we were
Speaker 1: told as we left that space, she'll be on your
Speaker 1: own in an evacuation, and I said, I'll take my chances.
Speaker 1: Let's understand that she thinks that this is rational or
Speaker 1: reasonable what she's saying most places all across the country.
Speaker 1: And now you can go into a restaurant, sit down
Speaker 1: just like you'd be indoors here at the Capitol Building
Speaker 1: and people don't have masks on. Has Aana Pressley flown
Speaker 1: on a plane or is she driving from Connecticut to
Speaker 1: DC every time she goes back to your disagree? Is
Speaker 1: she flown on a plane. I'd be willing to bet
Speaker 1: she's flown on a plane. Does she realize that when
Speaker 1: she's on that plane that there are lots of people
Speaker 1: who are unmasked for long periods of time as they
Speaker 1: drank and eat and whatever, but it was an imminent
Speaker 1: threat to life and limb to be in a room
Speaker 1: with people who are who are temporarily unmasked or not,
Speaker 1: weren't wearing masks, refused to wear masks inside the capitol,
Speaker 1: she says, it's a form of chemical warfare. That's right,
Speaker 1: You breathing is chemical warfare. Now, this is this is
Speaker 1: who we're supposed to listen to about what is fair
Speaker 1: minded in politics, and a woman who is part of
Speaker 1: the legislative process, it's this is what we're going to
Speaker 1: be dealing with from democrats. Did anyone in the room
Speaker 1: even have COVID? Do they know? Now? They have no idea?
Speaker 1: So statistically speaking, the overwhelming likelihood is that no one
Speaker 1: in that room had COVID and that nobody was exposed,
Speaker 1: particularly in any kind of close way. So why, oh no,
Speaker 1: Because COVID is just a COVID is really, first and
Speaker 1: foremost for politicians, a bat with which you bludgeon the
Speaker 1: opposition idea, whatever it may be, find a way to
Speaker 1: make it about how their COVID deniers or they don't.
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of It's it's not actually a
Speaker 1: virus that has spread all over the world that we
Speaker 1: should all be thinking about realistic and honest solutions to
Speaker 1: deal with in a reasonable fashion. It's how can I
Speaker 1: use this as a political weapon against the other side.
Speaker 1: That seems to be the primary, the primary purpose that
Speaker 1: I see from at least the Democrats about what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do, what they're trying to accomplish when they
Speaker 1: talk about COVID. Although, as I said, I believe the
Speaker 1: Biden administration coming in now is going to you either
Speaker 1: get on board or you don't want COVID to stop.
Speaker 1: That's going to be the demagoguery that you see. Just
Speaker 1: just wait for it. You're in the Freedom Hud. This
Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know what we
Speaker 1: definitely shouldn't do at this point in time. Take a
Speaker 1: lot of advice about what the GOP should do and
Speaker 1: what the next steps are from people who hate the
Speaker 1: GOP and who make money trying to destroy it. Do
Speaker 1: not take advice from your enemies. It's a very straightforward,
Speaker 1: maxim It's a very important way to approach life. Do
Speaker 1: not take advice from people that want to see you lose,
Speaker 1: and there are so many of them out there right now.
Speaker 1: Here's Steve Schmidt. Steve Schmidt runs Lincoln Project. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: goes on TV and he uses the stars to use
Speaker 1: the big words occasionally, so he sounds like not the
Speaker 1: dumbest person on TV, but I think he might be
Speaker 1: play nine. We have a fascistic enterprise alive and well
Speaker 1: in America. We have an autocratic movement that's supported by
Speaker 1: forty two And before we talk about reconciliation, we must
Speaker 1: talk about accountability, and we must talk about justice, and
Speaker 1: we must talk about the punishment for the violence done
Speaker 1: to the government of the United States. There are only
Speaker 1: two ways to win a fight. You can bring your
Speaker 1: opponent to submission, or your opponent can bring you to exhaustion.
Speaker 1: When you think about losing a fight through exhaustion, you
Speaker 1: think think about the United States in Iraq or Afghanistan
Speaker 1: or in Vietnam. When you think about submission, you think
Speaker 1: about what happened to the South in the Civil War.
Speaker 1: You think about Germany and Japan. And so our offer
Speaker 1: on the table for this edition as is a fight
Speaker 1: where we will bring you to submission. This must be crushed,
Speaker 1: This must be annihilated. This illiberalism, this undemocratic moment must
Speaker 1: be met. Head on. I mean, this guy raises money
Speaker 1: to destroy Republicans and help Democrats. But now he's going
Speaker 1: to tell the Republican Party how it needs to reform.
Speaker 1: That seems like a bad That seems like a bad
Speaker 1: pathway to go down. He's not the only one, dude,
Speaker 1: do we know is Joe Scarborough? Is he? Is he
Speaker 1: a Republican or you know, I'm sure he thinks that
Speaker 1: he should be president, but is he a Republican or
Speaker 1: what what? I don't know what He probably probably an independent. Now,
Speaker 1: when you're a turncote Republican in the media and you
Speaker 1: want to maintain whatever lucrative perch you have, what you
Speaker 1: do as you say you're an independent. That guy he
Speaker 1: used to work for Bush dowd Over at ABC News,
Speaker 1: who's he's one of the worst political analysts on just
Speaker 1: says dumb things all the time and as a jerk.
Speaker 1: On top of that, he's he's an independent. I think Scarborough,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he says he is, but he
Speaker 1: could very easily be in that mold here he is. Remember,
Speaker 1: this is somebody who used to have a show about
Speaker 1: how much of a Republican he was on TV and
Speaker 1: now He's like, the GOP needs to just keep losing
Speaker 1: and losing and losing and losing. Play eight. Yes, people
Speaker 1: have to tell the truth. We have to get justice.
Speaker 1: But also Trump's Republican Party has to lose in two years,
Speaker 1: has to lose in four years, has to keep losing
Speaker 1: until those with autocratic tendencies are driven from American politics
Speaker 1: for good. Gotta get him out of politics, the autocratic
Speaker 1: tendencies in the Republican Party. That's what he's saying. Does
Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough ever talk about the autocratic tendencies and the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party or no? Where do you think there's a
Speaker 1: greater risk of autocracy? Where do you think there's a
Speaker 1: greater risk of authoritarianism? The party that now has the
Speaker 1: entirety of the media and the social media giants doing
Speaker 1: their bidding, that has corporate America in their back pocket,
Speaker 1: do you think that they're more of a risk to
Speaker 1: your freedoms or liberty? Were the party that right now
Speaker 1: was going through some very tough times because unfortunately we
Speaker 1: were in charge when COVID hit. I think if there
Speaker 1: was no COVID nineteen, if we hadn't gone through the pandemic,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump would have won reelection pretty pretty handily. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not the cards we were dealt. Now
Speaker 1: we have a Republican Party that's feelings as weak as
Speaker 1: it has. As I said, this is the worst position
Speaker 1: the Republican Party has been in since two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: so we could say an over a decade at this point.
Speaker 1: This is the worst place it's been in in terms
Speaker 1: of power. I'm not sure that this is the worst
Speaker 1: place it's been in in terms of long term prospects,
Speaker 1: because we have had there were some gains among key
Speaker 1: groups in the last election. That shows that with the
Speaker 1: right kind of conservative, populous message we can we can
Speaker 1: have gains. This was a very it was a fluke
Speaker 1: of a year in politics. In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: It was very challenging. So I'm not one to sit
Speaker 1: here and despair. I'm just telling you we we got
Speaker 1: to get ready for what's coming. Because the Democrats they
Speaker 1: only had, they only had four years of Trump, but
Speaker 1: they completely lost their minds and now their plan is
Speaker 1: to punish all, punish everybody that was a part of
Speaker 1: it in whatever way they can, and to really erase
Speaker 1: Trumpism from the the political map in its entirety. And
Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna even I was gonna play
Speaker 1: a SoundBite from from Cindy McCain and I didn't. Why
Speaker 1: And I look, I got nothing against Cindy McCain, And
Speaker 1: why why is she a political voice that we hear from? Exactly?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get that, but I'll just leave it.
Speaker 1: Because the Romney McCain wing of the GOP, they really
Speaker 1: think that they're going to come back into power, and
Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. And if it does happen,
Speaker 1: it just means that we keep losing elections and Democrats
Speaker 1: get their way. But but well we'll be pat on
Speaker 1: the head by the New York Times. So that's nice.
Speaker 1: You know, the GOP is no longer a bunch of ruffians.
Speaker 1: That'll be our reward. Thanks for listening to the bus
Speaker 1: seton Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the
Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Only
Speaker 1: once during the nearly two decades long war in Afghanistan
Speaker 1: has an active duty combat member been pulled from the
Speaker 1: battlefront due to debts of two family members. In war.
Speaker 1: US Marine bo Wise is that man after his brothers
Speaker 1: won a Navy seal. The other an Army Green Beret sniper,
Speaker 1: were killed in combat. Wise was removed from the war theater,
Speaker 1: earning the designation sole Survivor. He's got a book in
Speaker 1: book coming out, Three Wise Men, in which he tells
Speaker 1: this story. But we have Marine bow Wise with us now.
Speaker 1: Both thank you for for your service in your time. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you for your service, and thanks for having me
Speaker 1: on buck. So tell me this what what? What do
Speaker 1: you want people to take a take away from your story?
Speaker 1: And I suppose for us to really understand that you
Speaker 1: got to tell us how how did all this come about?
Speaker 1: You quite a quite a military family. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a lot to say. Um uh when we
Speaker 1: first got started, and Tom Seleo, my co author, approached
Speaker 1: me and he really, you know, kind of told me
Speaker 1: his vision and what he wanted to do, and I
Speaker 1: told him the things that I had wanted to say,
Speaker 1: and everything just kind of syncd up as far as
Speaker 1: preserving Jeremy and Ben's legacy. But um it became something
Speaker 1: much deeper, and um I learned to be honest myself,
Speaker 1: be human, and expose a few chinks in my own
Speaker 1: armor and hopefully an effort that we can we can
Speaker 1: help other veterans, you know, you know that are struggling
Speaker 1: coming off the battlefield as well. So you know, it
Speaker 1: all started for me. I found journal. Journalism to our
Speaker 1: journal excuse me, to be kind of a healthy coping
Speaker 1: mechanism because I just, quite frankly me personally, my personality type.
Speaker 1: I can put ink to paper and let my heart
Speaker 1: out a little bit easier than I can speaking. So
Speaker 1: having such a patriotic and professional co author with Tom
Speaker 1: Salo to help, you know, help me tell that story
Speaker 1: was just detrimental. But Boat tell us some of that story.
Speaker 1: How did you decide to go into the Marine Corps?
Speaker 1: Your brother was a Marine sniper, Your other brother was
Speaker 1: a was a member of the United States Navy Seals.
Speaker 1: Tell us about this well, then was the first to enlist,
Speaker 1: and he enlisted in two thousand, prior to September. He
Speaker 1: just it was something that he talked about since high
Speaker 1: school and you know, really ever since you know, we
Speaker 1: were kids. My mom, you know, had a legacy of
Speaker 1: you know, marine heritage, her uncle, her mother's brother being
Speaker 1: a raider in the Pacific Campaign and her great uncle
Speaker 1: being in u in Argonne Forest, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: and you know, so having that legacy and you know,
Speaker 1: it just kind of sparked the fuel and then just
Speaker 1: wanted to serve. So he enlisted Army Infantry. And then
Speaker 1: eventually years later after his first deployment, when Green Beret
Speaker 1: Jeremy had talked about steel since high school and college,
Speaker 1: and then eventually when he was twenty seven to cut
Speaker 1: off age for BUDS. Being twenty eight, you know, it
Speaker 1: was you know, time to time to do it or
Speaker 1: you know, stop. So he quit medical school and went
Speaker 1: to BUDS. And after just listening to them, I just
Speaker 1: got inspired. And I was in college and thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I really you know, I was just living vicariously through
Speaker 1: a lot of stories they were telling me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I've got to make a path for my
Speaker 1: own and do something similar. And I eventually in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight and listed in the Marine Corps and
Speaker 1: win infantry. And you you did get deployed overseas. Tell us,
Speaker 1: tell us about that experience. I deployed to helm And
Speaker 1: Province twice, southern Afghanistan and the heart of Poshtun country.
Speaker 1: The first deployment was the invasion of Marja. For me, personally,
Speaker 1: it wasn't nearly as kinetic as as what I was hoping,
Speaker 1: and whatever patrol I was on, the fight usually just
Speaker 1: seemed to be ahead or behind, or left or right,
Speaker 1: and you know, it just sometimes pans out that way.
Speaker 1: My second deployment was in Garmishire, very close to the
Speaker 1: Studn Packy border, and you know, and so my combat
Speaker 1: experiences is rather minimal, especially in comparison to Jeremy's and Bens.
Speaker 1: It was just the culture and the climate, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of adapting to that. Yeah, yeah, tell me tell
Speaker 1: me about your your brothers. I mean, part of this book,
Speaker 1: and we're speaking of Bo Wise, author of Three Wise Men,
Speaker 1: and this is described as as in essence A there's
Speaker 1: parallels to the story we all know from the very
Speaker 1: well known World War Two movies Saving Private Ryan. Your
Speaker 1: brothers both both gave their lives for their countries in combat.
Speaker 1: Tell us tell us about your brothers. Uh so they
Speaker 1: they both did uh to Iraq and Afghanistan. Uh four
Speaker 1: deployments each. And that's that's just Iraq and Afghanistan. There
Speaker 1: were other deployments. And I mean we could have gone
Speaker 1: on well beyond three hundred pages. Um if we had
Speaker 1: included everything as far as the other countries. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, Jeremy was he left the seal teams in
Speaker 1: August of oh nine and he was very swiftly picked
Speaker 1: up by the Central Intelligence Agency through the Contract Z
Speaker 1: and he was one of the GRS skies overseas at
Speaker 1: FOB Chapman and becaused province Afghanistan, And unfortunately he was
Speaker 1: one of the the seven CIA officials that were killed
Speaker 1: by the suicide bomber in December thirty to two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine. I was in Helman Province at the time.
Speaker 1: I flew home and linked up with Ben and you know,
Speaker 1: we h yeah, and you know, buried him and swiftly
Speaker 1: went back to Afghanistan. And after that deployment we came
Speaker 1: home and just coincidentally we ended up back in Afghanistan
Speaker 1: at the same time again in twenty eleven, and I
Speaker 1: came home later that year and Ben's battalion got extended
Speaker 1: and he was breaching a cave in a firefight in
Speaker 1: balk Province and a cave network and he fought for
Speaker 1: six days. After breaching a cave, he was shot multiple
Speaker 1: times in the chest, legs and growing and eventually succumbed
Speaker 1: to his wounds on January fifteenth. Today is the ninth
Speaker 1: anniversary of Ben's passing. I'm very sorry for your loss,
Speaker 1: and I think it's important for people to hear stories
Speaker 1: of this kind of harrow was a man's sacrifice, And
Speaker 1: those two things often do come together when we're talking
Speaker 1: about military service and combat zones, and we still have
Speaker 1: soldiers deployed overseas, we still have ongoing conflict zones. People
Speaker 1: need to know that there's a cost that's being cost
Speaker 1: that's being paid, and burdens that are being carried by
Speaker 1: people like the Wise family. And to that end, please
Speaker 1: tell me a bit more about Beau, about what it
Speaker 1: was like when you found this out and you got
Speaker 1: word from the Now you you've lost two brothers in
Speaker 1: combat in these wars abroad. What was the what was
Speaker 1: the initial sense you had when they were telling you,
Speaker 1: what was it that you were going to be? You?
Speaker 1: Did they give you the choice of being pulled out
Speaker 1: of theater? You know, I didn't know for a long
Speaker 1: time we had. I had just returned from Garmister District
Speaker 1: with First Battalion, third Marines. I was with Weapons Company
Speaker 1: KAT two and which is a second Combined Anti Armor Team.
Speaker 1: We just got back and I had married my beautiful
Speaker 1: wife Amber right before the deployment, so we were just
Speaker 1: getting settled, settled into Kanyobe, Hawaii, and the phone call
Speaker 1: came in the night, the first one from my mom
Speaker 1: that Ben had been shot, and that is all that
Speaker 1: we knew. It did not from what we understood, it
Speaker 1: wasn't life threatening because as you know very well, Book,
Speaker 1: I mean, information comes in from you know, guys that
Speaker 1: are sometimes still in the fight when the information comes back,
Speaker 1: so it's just incomplete. So we got everything in increments.
Speaker 1: So as the words started coming back to us, we
Speaker 1: realized that it was a bit more severe than we
Speaker 1: initially fought thought, so we made adjustments to get to Germany.
Speaker 1: When we realized that Ben was going to be transported
Speaker 1: to Landstool and Tracy, his wife, and I flew over
Speaker 1: there and we got to be with him when he
Speaker 1: when he when he passed, and then I sent the
Speaker 1: whole family home and stayed behind as a guardian angel
Speaker 1: for for Ben when he did pass. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: until I got back to Dover that the commandant of
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps at the time, General Amos was there,
Speaker 1: and he arrived and he told my mother and father,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not going anywhere for a for a
Speaker 1: long long time. And it came as a gut check.
Speaker 1: And I think at the time I was pretty upset
Speaker 1: about it, um just fearing not just losing after having
Speaker 1: lost my blood brothers. I I think I was most
Speaker 1: concerned about being separated from my brotherhood, my Marines. But
Speaker 1: I was allowed to stay in service for several years,
Speaker 1: and I left active duty, you know, four and a
Speaker 1: half years later in twenty sixteen, and dropped to the
Speaker 1: reserves and eventually just got out completely from r R
Speaker 1: and everything else in March of last year. Actually it's
Speaker 1: about ten months ago. Bo, do you feel like the
Speaker 1: we're speaking to Bo Wise, author of Three Wise Men,
Speaker 1: which is just out this week and tells a story
Speaker 1: of his service and his brothers service and multiple combat tours.
Speaker 1: In theories of warfare, it feels like the fighting that's
Speaker 1: going on overseas, or even just the continued downrange presence
Speaker 1: that we have has really fallen out of most of
Speaker 1: the public's consciousness. We talk about troop withdrawal. Maybe in
Speaker 1: Afghanistan we're down to lower numbers. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about the situation right now, because there's less you know,
Speaker 1: even i'd say four or five years ago, there was
Speaker 1: a still a real focus on support the troops. Men
Speaker 1: also understand what they're caring and what their sacrifices are
Speaker 1: as these wars go on and on and on. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about the the general American public's view
Speaker 1: of all that right now? Well, I wouldn't like you said, Buck,
Speaker 1: I would encourage people to stay focused, especially with all
Speaker 1: you know, the political climate just being where it is.
Speaker 1: That's that's its own beast, you know, and I want
Speaker 1: to get into but um, you know, just staying focused
Speaker 1: and staying supportive of our our men and women are
Speaker 1: service members overseas, like you know, and you know, just
Speaker 1: stay aware and you know, not just on you know,
Speaker 1: the national front, but you know local and I being
Speaker 1: out and not having been in the Eastern hemisphere and
Speaker 1: just about a decade now, Um, you know, when I
Speaker 1: come across these questions, I typically ask a Green Beret first,
Speaker 1: just because they seem to be so calms, jack of
Speaker 1: all trades and have them. I think a very broad
Speaker 1: scope is as far as these type of things. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, and we just need to stay focused
Speaker 1: and supportive of of our service members given me if
Speaker 1: I could ask you, Bo, and we thank you again
Speaker 1: for your service and also the sacrifices and service that
Speaker 1: your your whole family has made. What would you say
Speaker 1: to you if if if I don't know if you
Speaker 1: have children, Bo, but if you have a son and
Speaker 1: your son was getting to that age where he could
Speaker 1: think about about serving and going down range and possibly
Speaker 1: being in harm's way, what would you say to him?
Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I would probably do something very similar
Speaker 1: to what my dad and my oldest brother. Um, they're
Speaker 1: really both brothers. I mean everyone I think I was discouraged,
Speaker 1: and you know, I wouldn't say discourage them, but you know,
Speaker 1: make sure it's something that you really really want to
Speaker 1: do before you do it, and just you know, go deliberately.
Speaker 1: If if you're going to do it, you know, make
Speaker 1: sure that you you find the job that's right for you.
Speaker 1: I mean there's gosh, I mean two hundred plus jobs
Speaker 1: I think in the arm and Navy each and you know,
Speaker 1: and I think that was the concern. I do have
Speaker 1: a son and daughter and you know they're three and two.
Speaker 1: So God Willing. I never have to have that conversation
Speaker 1: with either of them, but I would probably take a
Speaker 1: similar approach and say, you know, make sure this is
Speaker 1: really what you want to do, and if it is,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll support you wholeheartedly in defending our constitution,
Speaker 1: our rights, and American people. The book is three wise men,
Speaker 1: Bo Wise Bo. Thank you for all you and your
Speaker 1: family have done for this country and for joining us
Speaker 1: in best of luck with the book. Hey, thank you, Buck.
Speaker 1: You're a patriot and I really appreciate it. Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me on. You're in the Freedom This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sex and Show podcast. We need anti poverty programs
Speaker 1: and we need a fact based government that puts results
Speaker 1: over politics. Yeah. The first part is corda what I've
Speaker 1: stood for since I started in public service. We need
Speaker 1: to make New York City the COVID comeback city, but
Speaker 1: also the anti poverty city. As mayor, we will launch
Speaker 1: the largest basic income program in the history of the country.
Speaker 1: We will lift hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers out
Speaker 1: of extreme poverty, putting cash relief directly into the hands
Speaker 1: of the families who desperately need help right now. This
Speaker 1: is the type of move that our city leadership must
Speaker 1: make in this pandemic. Cash relief is literally the difference
Speaker 1: between a family eating and a family going hungry. It's
Speaker 1: the difference between being homeless and having a roof over
Speaker 1: your head. Andrew Yang, former Democrat presidential candidate, is going
Speaker 1: to be running for mayor in New York City, America's
Speaker 1: largest city, place where I originate this show from. And
Speaker 1: let's just say that this will be this will be interesting.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you Andrew Yang from all I've interviewed Andrew
Speaker 1: Yang before, so he will actually speak to people from
Speaker 1: the other other political other political aisle or other aisle
Speaker 1: of the you know what I'm saying, the other side
Speaker 1: of the politics stuff. Uh, he is. He's a likable guy.
Speaker 1: He's not a nasty, you know, ill tempered, bad natured guy,
Speaker 1: which these days in politics, I find that to be
Speaker 1: kind of a rarity among Democrats. I do think that
Speaker 1: generally Republicans are a little bit more just. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about elected Republicans are nicer. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: Democrats are very have very you know, hair trigger sensitivities,
Speaker 1: and are are very quick to be you know, snippy
Speaker 1: with people about about minor things. That's just my impression,
Speaker 1: but I'm usually right. But Andrew yang Is is a
Speaker 1: pretty nice guy. But that doesn't mean that what he's
Speaker 1: gonna do for New York City if he becomes mayor,
Speaker 1: and he will clearly be an improvement over build the Blasio.
Speaker 1: But I think anybody, I mean, producer Mark, I mean this, you,
Speaker 1: with zero government experience and not even yet being thirty
Speaker 1: years of age, you would do a far better job
Speaker 1: running New York City tomorrow than build a Blasio. Would
Speaker 1: I think there's a lamp in my house that would
Speaker 1: do a better job than build a Blasio. But like
Speaker 1: it's not even close. I mean, you should if it
Speaker 1: were build a Blasio versus Producer Mark, Producer Mark should
Speaker 1: get ninety nine percent of the vote. We'll give one
Speaker 1: percent of people that you know just are crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: But so so the Blasio is awful. I think yang
Speaker 1: would be better. But what I think so interesting is
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be this move now and he's gonna
Speaker 1: try to apply universal basic income to New York City
Speaker 1: and he's going to uh if he becomes the mayor,
Speaker 1: which this is a this is a year out, but
Speaker 1: he would then start giving checks to people. But what's
Speaker 1: fascinating this New York City already has a very large
Speaker 1: welfare state and a lot of welfare programs of all
Speaker 1: different kinds. There's a lot of there's public housing and
Speaker 1: public healthcare, and there's a lot of stuff, and he
Speaker 1: wants to expand on that. I think what we'd see
Speaker 1: is that it wouldn't really work as an anti poverty
Speaker 1: program the way it's set up. And so the experiment
Speaker 1: of New York City being in some ways on the
Speaker 1: cutting edge of progressive policy, well, especially if I'm not here,
Speaker 1: is they don't have to worry about it. It'll be
Speaker 1: interesting because I think I think it would fail. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll work. And this is a city that
Speaker 1: has been put through so much that you'll if there
Speaker 1: were good ideas and it boomed back, we would be
Speaker 1: able to tell. But this is a circumstance where I
Speaker 1: believe that if Andrew Yang got his way and you
Speaker 1: would have this, you're just gonna have more and more
Speaker 1: flight from New York City, because who's going to pay
Speaker 1: for all this stuff? You know, for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you have to think of time is money or money
Speaker 1: is time, And so when they're taking more and more
Speaker 1: of your money. They're actually taking more and more hours
Speaker 1: of your life. And you can be in a place
Speaker 1: where they don't do that because they have lower taxes,
Speaker 1: or you could be here. What's the advantage. Now, I've
Speaker 1: mentioned before the Democrat plan is to then deal with
Speaker 1: this from a top down level by using the federal
Speaker 1: purse to backstop blue cities that are hemorrhaging residents. But
Speaker 1: this is the ideas they're putting forward. There's a part
Speaker 1: of me that wants to see Yang do his thing
Speaker 1: in New York because one, he's better than Bill the Blasio,
Speaker 1: because Bill the Blazer it's the worst. But two, you'll
Speaker 1: see that this stuff doesn't actually the same way. We're
Speaker 1: going to figure out the hardware that a fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: minimum wage doesn't mean that everyone all of a sudden
Speaker 1: is out of poverty who works a job. You'll see
Speaker 1: that doesn't work that way. But we have to see
Speaker 1: it first. We'll see that the universal basic income doesn't
Speaker 1: end poverty somehow or even even make a dent in it.
Speaker 1: But we got to see, I suppose in the blue
Speaker 1: enclaves in the Democrat strongholds. Thanks for listening to the
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Speaker 1: The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real. It's
Speaker 1: time for roll call, Yeah, roll call. We're going off
Speaker 1: to the weekend. Everybody. It's gonna be a great weekend
Speaker 1: for everybody, right producer Mark. Of course, we're always working
Speaker 1: for the weekend. Indeed, everyone, it's gonna be. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be awesome. Wenna, a great time this weekend. Everyone forget
Speaker 1: about all the all the stuff, the tense and gray
Speaker 1: and sad and bad. Right now in America, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a good we all of us individually, with our
Speaker 1: families and loved ones. We're all gonna have a good weekend.
Speaker 1: Those are your orders. Start it. Eat something yummy, watch
Speaker 1: something entertaining, Read something in you know, intrigue, you're inspiring
Speaker 1: or whatever, or the producer Mark, check out the the
Speaker 1: hockey points or score. I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: hockey right now. What happened? The Rangers didn't I don't
Speaker 1: think they played last night. I'm just gonna forget the
Speaker 1: game happen. This was your this was your Rangers against
Speaker 1: the the Islanders. Yeah, well it was I believe game
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah. Now do you want to tell us
Speaker 1: the difference between Islanders at Rangers face? Well, right now,
Speaker 1: Islander fans are happy and Ranger fans very unhappy. Here
Speaker 1: there we go. All right, Well, you know is there
Speaker 1: any other there other games this weekend? Well, they're playing
Speaker 1: the Elders again tomorrow, and there's football this weekend. So
Speaker 1: that's that's fun. Okay, that's football. Maybe maybe I'll check
Speaker 1: check some of that playoffs. Deep. I'm deep into Pull Dark,
Speaker 1: which I'm very much enjoying, but I'm looking for other
Speaker 1: shows I may try. Um oh gosh, I wrote down
Speaker 1: I've got to show that I want to watch, but
Speaker 1: I no, I can't even know what it was. I
Speaker 1: can't get excited about this Halt and catch Fire. I
Speaker 1: keep trying to watch it. It looks like it's pretty
Speaker 1: well done, but it's about a bunch of like nerds
Speaker 1: making computers or something. I don't know. I don't really care.
Speaker 1: I gotta find I asked people. I said it's a
Speaker 1: good Everyone says it's good, but I'm I'm not sold. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make computers that are faster than the other
Speaker 1: person's computers. I don't know, and it doesn't really you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really blow my mind. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you got any ideas for great shows or anything,
Speaker 1: that's a good thing to write into roll call. I remember,
Speaker 1: go to bucksx and dot com, Facebook, dot com, slashbuck sex,
Speaker 1: then check it all out. All right, let's go, Calvin Buck.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to you tonight. I understand your thoughts on
Speaker 1: how to get back in power. I'd like to ask
Speaker 1: you a question. In the past, when we did not
Speaker 1: approve of the job our elected officials were doing, our
Speaker 1: only way to change policy was to vote them out.
Speaker 1: That option has now been taken away from us. We
Speaker 1: can't go to the judiciary for recompense. Your idea of
Speaker 1: winning elections locally is nice. However, I don't think the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party will take their newfound illegitimate wins in the
Speaker 1: national election and use it locally. My fear is that
Speaker 1: it may take a revolution to set things straight, would
Speaker 1: require the military to perform a coup. I'm not advocating
Speaker 1: for that. However, we truly have fascists that have taken
Speaker 1: over our government. What other way do you see of
Speaker 1: resolving itself peacefully. Um, Calvin, it's not as bad as
Speaker 1: it seems right now. And I know that's trite. I
Speaker 1: know people are gonna say ah, and I can hear
Speaker 1: them throwing the cold French fries that have fallen at
Speaker 1: the bottom of their cars they're driving listening to the show.
Speaker 1: I know they're throwing it at the radio screen or whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not as bad as it seems. We're well,
Speaker 1: we'll get through this and we're gonna we're gonna be
Speaker 1: all right. You know, it's fine. The country is see
Speaker 1: because this is what this is what the good news
Speaker 1: that I have for you. The Democrats are democrats, and
Speaker 1: it's not going to change. They can't help but do
Speaker 1: Democrat things, and they're gonna do things that enough people
Speaker 1: will see and they'll say, oh gosh, hold on a second.
Speaker 1: They've got really really bad ideas, right, They've got really
Speaker 1: bad ideas that they're implementing. So that's just one thing
Speaker 1: I'd want to put out there right there. The Democrats
Speaker 1: right now, they haven't yet had their way, so it's
Speaker 1: hard to lock in on how they're failing because they're
Speaker 1: not yet doing stuff. And I'm talking about the Biden Harris.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of Democrats stuff happening, but
Speaker 1: I mean the Biden Harris administration. They have not yet
Speaker 1: taken power. Once they do and we're all subjected to
Speaker 1: the wokeness and the left wing insanity and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, be say, okay, guys, remember
Speaker 1: how they said it's gonna be so much better when
Speaker 1: Trump was gone, and this, that and the other reason
Speaker 1: it's not working out that way, is it? And that
Speaker 1: will give us our opportunity, that will give us our
Speaker 1: chance to start to mount a political response. But I
Speaker 1: understand there's also a let to here. Let's let's all
Speaker 1: be very This is the this is the freedom hunt.
Speaker 1: This is a place for we're all. We're all friends
Speaker 1: and family in this. If you're listening to this, even
Speaker 1: if you're a crazy lib it listens in just so
Speaker 1: you can, you know, write me angry emails or something.
Speaker 1: You know what, We'll even pretend you're a part of
Speaker 1: the family too. The the Trump administration there was now
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would say, to be fair,
Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna have eight years. They only
Speaker 1: had four. But there's a lot of stuff that didn't
Speaker 1: get done that we needed to get done. And so
Speaker 1: there's also that frustration, that sense of letdown that it
Speaker 1: wasn't even like we had every you know everything, There
Speaker 1: was all this stuff accomplished that people said, oh, Trump
Speaker 1: accomplished the most. That Trump kept saying that, well a
Speaker 1: lot was accomplished in four years if you had four
Speaker 1: more years to solidify and to expand. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: be honest here. I mean, what tax cuts and regulations
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. Okay, that's gone. Now
Speaker 1: that's all gone, that goes away. What major legislation. I
Speaker 1: mean the trade deals? Yes, absolutely, great trade deals done,
Speaker 1: no new or expand their major wars. Absolutely, that's that's
Speaker 1: very good there. I'm not saying there weren't things accomplished,
Speaker 1: but there's something. Did we get the wall finished? No,
Speaker 1: we did not. That's a fact. There's no arguing that.
Speaker 1: It's just a fact. Did we handle the illegal immigration
Speaker 1: problem in a way where we you know, it's been
Speaker 1: we have figured out what the pathway forward for America
Speaker 1: is without just having amnesty for you know, fifteen million
Speaker 1: people or whatever the number will be. Um, No, we
Speaker 1: did not. And now Democrats are gonna go for that,
Speaker 1: They're gonna go for amnesty, and you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of stuff that that didn't
Speaker 1: get done. And now we go to the other side.
Speaker 1: What are they going to try to accomplish? What are
Speaker 1: they going to try to do now that they have power?
Speaker 1: And I can understand that can feel a little bit
Speaker 1: overwhelming right now, But folks just talk about revolution. Everything
Speaker 1: else is this is It's honestly, it's it's just absurd
Speaker 1: and damaging right now. Anybody that's really thinking out loud
Speaker 1: about that in a major way, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are venting, and they're using that kind of
Speaker 1: talk as a as a mechanism for just letting some
Speaker 1: of that political frustration. It's as kind of catharsis for
Speaker 1: people right now. I mean, I can't believe Look, I
Speaker 1: was saying in the beginning of this, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the truth. I mean, Joe Biden is prey. I just
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it that that was going to happen. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking about at the early stage of the primary.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, if Joe Biden can be preisident
Speaker 1: and it means any any random dude who has some
Speaker 1: name recognition on the Democrat side could be president because
Speaker 1: you need no skills or or particular ability whatsoever. I mean,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is in so many ways the ultimate mediocrity.
Speaker 1: And this guy is a president. Now, you know, I say,
Speaker 1: what your lit about Trump? The guy's dynamic, the guy's had,
Speaker 1: you know, tremendous successes and some some failings in his
Speaker 1: career beforehand. He's you know, he's a salesman. He's got
Speaker 1: a vision, and he's got you know, there's all this,
Speaker 1: there's a lot about Trump brings a lot to the table.
Speaker 1: Love him or hate him, he brings a lot to
Speaker 1: the table. What does Joe Biden bringing the table? I mean,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, no joke, you know you're him. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna read all the speeches like this rio sometimes it
Speaker 1: makes me seem authoritative. Now we're gonna go back to
Speaker 1: a time when you might fall asleep during speeches. Heck
Speaker 1: I might fall asleep during speeches. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: we're heading toward now for our commander in chief. Get
Speaker 1: ready for it. But as I've said to you, he's
Speaker 1: just he's really just the puppet. I mean, he's the
Speaker 1: instrument for the implementation of the left wing agenda, So
Speaker 1: that is also out there and we need to be
Speaker 1: aware of it. Jamie Buck, Nancy Pelosi is moving forward
Speaker 1: with impeachment proceedings on the president because he supposedly encouraged
Speaker 1: a violent protest on the Capitol Building. I believe what
Speaker 1: she's doing also encourages violent protests, and she knows it.
Speaker 1: She is not going after the president. She is attempting
Speaker 1: to incite violence. Is she not just as guilty of
Speaker 1: what she is accusing the president of? Jamie, I please
Speaker 1: right back in and give me a little more of
Speaker 1: what specifically you're referring to, or you know what's on
Speaker 1: your mind about this, because I mean, I don't what
Speaker 1: do you mean by Pelosi is inciting violence? I mean,
Speaker 1: in the past she said there should be upright, she
Speaker 1: doesn't know why there aren't uprisings. Now she would say
Speaker 1: that's an observation, not incitement. So I understand what they're
Speaker 1: what their tone would be, and what they would say
Speaker 1: about all this, But I just I wonder what exactly
Speaker 1: what exactly, Jamie are referring to give me a little
Speaker 1: more details, and I think I can give you a
Speaker 1: better response in the next roll call, Kelly Buck love
Speaker 1: the show, Well, Kelly, show loves the Buck. Oh no,
Speaker 1: the show loves you. Not the show loves the Buck. Sorry,
Speaker 1: the show loves the Kelly. If the big tech companies
Speaker 1: are private businesses that can do what they want and
Speaker 1: censor the president and conservatives, why can't we use this
Speaker 1: logic against them. If private businesses can do what they want,
Speaker 1: then private businesses should open right now. Well, Kelly, what
Speaker 1: they mean by that is that private businesses outside of
Speaker 1: an area that the government is already deciding for them,
Speaker 1: has has autonomy and decision making. But I think what
Speaker 1: you're getting to is the larger point about how it's
Speaker 1: just the business just has a right to do this
Speaker 1: because we say, you know, because they say so is
Speaker 1: not enough in a whole lot of other areas. You know,
Speaker 1: the government will say it's too much of a health risk. Well, now,
Speaker 1: I think conservatives are turning around too much of a
Speaker 1: health risk to operate during COVID. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of conservatives are going to turn around and say it's
Speaker 1: too much of a risk to free speech and the
Speaker 1: First Amendment for big tech companies to be making partisan
Speaker 1: decisions about what you can say, same kind of regulation
Speaker 1: that the Democrats love for all kinds of things. Conservatives
Speaker 1: are going to be using it now or trying to
Speaker 1: use it. But I know some of you already saying,
Speaker 1: how Buck, we don't have control. I know, I know
Speaker 1: we don't have control, and I don't have an answer,
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody really has an answer right
Speaker 1: now about this other than we try to convince more
Speaker 1: and more of our fellow Americans of the righteousness of
Speaker 1: our positions, of our ideas or the rightness of them. Oh,
Speaker 1: and righteousness depends. So Kelly, thank you, Thank Kelly. I
Speaker 1: guess ultimately thank you for having great taste in a
Speaker 1: radio or podcast program because you're listening to this one. Michael,
Speaker 1: mister Saxon a producer, Mark, I have two points, and
Speaker 1: I'll make them quick. First, I am, probably like most
Speaker 1: of your listeners, blue collar father and die heart American.
Speaker 1: How do I explain to my kids we have to
Speaker 1: trust our constitution when we see those in control disregard
Speaker 1: at like a Walmart receipt. Second, thank you for your
Speaker 1: honesty and diligence. We have all seen the conspiracy and
Speaker 1: side of this election. I hear more and more, but
Speaker 1: I also know if it doesn't get brought up on
Speaker 1: your show, probably isn't real and it's just that conspiracy.
Speaker 1: So thank you for the open and honest content you provide.
Speaker 1: You're doing all of us to serve as shields high ps.
Speaker 1: Ohio would welcome you back with open arms. And we
Speaker 1: have several hockey teams for a producer mark to enjoy.
Speaker 1: Are there a producer mark? Are there any good Ohio
Speaker 1: based hockey teams? Well, there's the Columbus Blue Jackets. They're
Speaker 1: okay blue. What is a blue jacket? I think it's
Speaker 1: a revolutionary war type of thing. Oh, they have a
Speaker 1: big cannon that they shoot off when they score goals.
Speaker 1: It's not they'll actually shoot the cannon, but it makes
Speaker 1: the noise. And then again, okay, I was always kind
Speaker 1: of jealous that the Patriots had the can and not
Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Buccaneers had cannons for their football games,
Speaker 1: remember that when I when I used to watch the Giants. Yes,
Speaker 1: they have a pirate ship in the stadium. That's where
Speaker 1: the Super bowlers this year. Oh, look at that. It's
Speaker 1: a pretty cool stadium you're in. This is the Buck
Speaker 1: Show podcast hypothetical question for you Buck. This comes from TJ.
Speaker 1: Would America have been better off with four years Obama
Speaker 1: and eight years of Romney than the eight years of
Speaker 1: Obama and four years of of Trump that we got. Clearly,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, most Republicans don't look upon Romney that favorably,
Speaker 1: but much of perception has developed in the past four
Speaker 1: years of Trump. As someone who voted for Romney myself
Speaker 1: and by the way, t J, I voted for Romney too,
Speaker 1: albeit not nearly as educated as I am now, I
Speaker 1: still think my instinctual answer would be yes, eight years
Speaker 1: of Romney would have been better than the last four
Speaker 1: years of Obama and first four of Trump. Well, that
Speaker 1: expending too much more in that though, Let's hear you. PS.
Speaker 1: This is not an anti Trump comment, but purely a
Speaker 1: thought exercise. I still think Trump was a good president,
Speaker 1: but like you, I think there are some blunders in
Speaker 1: his tenure that need to be revisited and properly critique
Speaker 1: before we can move on to the next chapter. Well, TJ,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I think I think that's just
Speaker 1: where we all need to be. We all need to
Speaker 1: understand that we've got to have honest conversations about what
Speaker 1: went right and what didn't during the Trump presidency, because
Speaker 1: now it's not about, oh, you don't want Trump to win.
Speaker 1: He didn't win. It's over right, So we can at
Speaker 1: least talk about, well, why didn't he win? And we
Speaker 1: want to talk about election irregularities that can be a
Speaker 1: part of it, but there's other stuff too. And as
Speaker 1: for eight years, yeah, I mean I think that you
Speaker 1: could make the argument. Interestingly enough, Obama for the first
Speaker 1: four years were more I think you could argue more
Speaker 1: impactful a long term than his second four years. Certainly
Speaker 1: from a legislative perspective, that's true with Obamacare. But just
Speaker 1: as a thought experiment, it would have been would it
Speaker 1: have been better to have had eight years of Romney
Speaker 1: than four of Obama and four of Trump? I think
Speaker 1: it's impossible to know, TJ. And I appreciate that you're
Speaker 1: asking me as a thought experiment, but you know, Romney
Speaker 1: would have been pretty wishy washy on a lot of
Speaker 1: things we can tell, right, I mean, look at what
Speaker 1: he says about BLM. Now, Romney would have been very
Speaker 1: I think, very malleable as a Republican. And I also
Speaker 1: think that you would have had you would never I
Speaker 1: don't think you ever would have had eight years of Romney.
Speaker 1: I think you would have had four years of Romney
Speaker 1: and then four years of Hillary. I think that's really
Speaker 1: the thought experiment. So then how does that make you feel?
Speaker 1: So you gotta dswer that one for me? TJ. Caleb
Speaker 1: buck love the show. You're absolutely right on the Capitol
Speaker 1: Hill riot. Political violence is abhorrent, no matter what side
Speaker 1: does it. My question is concerning the GOP and I
Speaker 1: Trump did flat out lose to Biden. What are we
Speaker 1: supposed to think that someone as deeply unimpressive as Biden
Speaker 1: got eighty million votes plus eighty million plus votes campaigning
Speaker 1: from his basement while Trump outperformed his twenty sixteen campaign effort,
Speaker 1: especially since Trump performed better with minorities than any other
Speaker 1: GOP candidate in recent memory. Thank you for what you do,
Speaker 1: Shields High My questions doing the GP of Trump did
Speaker 1: flat out lose to Biden? What are we supposed to
Speaker 1: think eighty million plus votes campaigning for his basement? Caleb?
Speaker 1: The media is very powerful. We were to pandemic year.
Speaker 1: Everybody was watching more news and more reading more stuff
Speaker 1: on the internet and social media than ever before. I
Speaker 1: know it's hard to believe, but you know, Trump got
Speaker 1: seventy five million votes. Maybe Biden did get the eighty million,
Speaker 1: and I know no one wants to hear that, but
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's prove otherwise. But we got to
Speaker 1: prove otherwise, not just say otherwise. And that's where we are.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I know that's not the way
Speaker 1: I want to send you off the weekend. Have a
Speaker 1: but have a great weekend, everybody. Enjoy yourselves, relaxed, take
Speaker 1: care of yourselves. We've gotta got a heck of a
Speaker 1: week coming up. Next week, we'll be in it together
Speaker 1: though shields high