1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunch. We'll lockdown's end with 2 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: Biden's reopened plan, DC braces for inauguration day and Trump 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: did he classify some Russia collusion documents. This is the 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexon Show, where the mission or mission is to 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: decode what really matters with passionable intelligence. Make no mistake America, 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: You're great American Again, the Buck Sexon Show begins. CIA 7 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: analysts he's a great guy. No. Finally, it seems the 8 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: obvious is something that the Libs, the Democrats will say 9 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: out loud when it comes to lockdown, only a few 10 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: of them, mind you, it's just beginning to happen. But 11 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: for the first time, you're starting to see articles. You're 12 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: seeing discussion from politicians like the governor of New York 13 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo, the mayor of Chicago, America's third largest city, 14 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Lori Lightfoot, and now a Newsweek piece COVID lockdowns have 15 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: no clear benefit versus other voluntary measures. International study shows. 16 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: So that's something that I've been saying for a long time, 17 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: but now we can actually talk about it. And this 18 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: is interesting. There is a coincidental timing, it seems. Now 19 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: there's also the timing one would expect the vaccines were 20 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: approved in December, and now we're getting into middle of 21 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: January and things. We're halfway into the winter here, So 22 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: obviously I get it there would be more of a 23 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel, feel. But just 24 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: yesterday you had Joe Biden telling everybody about his one 25 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: point eight trillion dollar reopen plan to save America, And 26 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: now you're also seeing the beginnings the first, the first 27 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: few conversations happening publicly about maybe these lockdowns weren't such 28 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: a good idea. Oh really, just before inauguration day, right 29 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: right when we're about to see a change in government, 30 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: there's the seeds of sanity being planted. I'm very pleased 31 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: about that makes me happy. It should have happened a 32 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: long time ago. And I also I can't help but 33 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: take something of a cynical view about all this, because, 34 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: for example, the Joe Biden rescue plan that's been talking 35 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: about here one point eight trillion dollars, How do you 36 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: oppose that when what you're going to be opposing is 37 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: the rescue of America from COVID. How can you say 38 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: there's too much spending going on when a lot of 39 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: that spending will be money that should have been spent 40 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: months and months ago, but Nancy Pelosi thwarted it and 41 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats stopped it. How do you deal with all that? 42 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: What do you do? What political opposition will Republicans really 43 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: be able to put up? I think the answer is 44 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: not a whole lot. Oh, we're going to start the 45 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: usual we're spending too much money conversation. Is that where 46 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: it's going to go. Fine, we can do that, and 47 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: it's true, it's not that that's not accurate, But we 48 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: didn't talk about that for four years. Occasionally I used 49 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: to say on this show, I know nobody wants to 50 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: hear about it, but we're spending too much money as 51 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: a government. Right, the treasury was profligant in its spending, 52 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: and when the good times were happening, and they were 53 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: until COVID for three years of Trump's presidency, nobody wanted 54 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: to hear about it. It was just something that was 55 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: happening in the background. Be quiet, maga, look at the 56 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: stock market. That was the attitude. Now I understand how 57 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: that happened, but we now I also have to face 58 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: the reality of Democrats coming in with united control of 59 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: the government and being able to say, not only did 60 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Republicans not curb their spending, but they have this added 61 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: mission of saving America from COVID, which is going to 62 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: require a ton of spending. And just like can you 63 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: see the parallels with two thousand and eight, Just like 64 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: when Obama came into office in two thousand and nine, 65 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: he won the two thousand and eight election, and it 66 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: was a trillion dollars stimulus package, remember that, And that 67 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: sounded like a lot of money, didn't it. It It is 68 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money. We're looking at one point eight 69 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: trillion right now, basically double and that's after spending trillions 70 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: in the last in the last twelve months, in addition 71 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: to the enormous federal alley that was planned before COVID. 72 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: So Biden is also being set up here to be 73 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the savior in a sense, right he is the cure. 74 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: You can almost write the headlines right now, and he's 75 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: going to be able to get away with them. But 76 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: it's not even Biden. He's just a figurehead. The Democrat 77 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: machinery around him is going to be ramming through whatever 78 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: they want all under this ages of COVID. That's what 79 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: they'll do, all under this COVID situation, and if you 80 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: oppose it, they'll say that you don't want America to 81 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: be better off and you don't want Americans to be 82 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: taken care of during this terrible and difficult time. So 83 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: what does that leave us with? That leaves us with 84 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: a very challenging case to make. Here, we're going to 85 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: have Republicans who have no actual political authority and who 86 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: are on the precipice of getting steamrolled on the filibuster, 87 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: which I think is also going to happen. You see 88 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: that that then becomes the trip wire. Biden has this 89 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: one point a trillion and you're looking through all this stuff. 90 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, fifteen dollars minimum way, it's got all these 91 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: things in it, right, fifteen dollars minimum way, it's two 92 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: thousand dollars payments to individuals. You know that there's gonna 93 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: be a whole lot of other stuff in there. There 94 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: is a whole lot of other stuff in there that 95 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with saving America from COVID. But 96 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: it's money that democrats, it's your money that Democrats want 97 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: to spend on favored constituencies. But just like with the 98 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: financial crisis in two thousand and nine, right, A crisis 99 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: is a terrible thing to waste. They are already setting 100 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: this up. It's a replay to borrow from Yogi Barra. 101 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: It is deja vu all over again. We're seeing right 102 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: now the Democrats. Really it's almost like doing Obama Administration 103 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: two point zero or Obama administration reducts approach to the 104 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: beginning of the Biden administration, and we're gonna have some 105 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: of the same challenges. You want to oppose the one 106 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: point eight trillion dollars in spending. Oh, I'm sorry. You 107 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: don't want two thousand dollars checks in people's hands after 108 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: this pandemic. Oh, you just want giveaways for corporations, Is 109 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: that right? You don't want the money to be spent 110 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: at the level it is right now because Nancy Pelosi 111 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: was blocking it for obviously political reasons. Who cares. People 112 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: still want their money. And if you look at the 113 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: way they got Obamacare through, which also happened when they 114 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: had a unified Congress and executive branch under the first 115 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Obama our first two years of Obama's presidency, if you 116 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: look at what happened, what do we remember about the 117 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Obamacare debate? Oh, it was big. It was unwieldy. There 118 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: was all this stuff in Obamacare, but ultimately it was 119 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: you can stay in your parents insurance until you're twenty 120 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: six and pre existing conditions that was in. There was 121 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: all this other stuff, I mean medical device taxes and 122 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: exchanges and all these things, and ultimately Obamacare just created 123 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: in the individual market winners and losers chosen by the government. 124 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Some people were getting less and paying more, other people 125 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: were getting more and paying less. It was just shifting 126 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: around those costs. It did not create a better, cheaper, safer, 127 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: more effective healthcare system. That didn't happen. And the way 128 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: that it expanded most of its coverage was actually through Medicaid, 129 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: which is a healthcare welfare system as we know that 130 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: has pretty bad long term healthcare outcomes because a lot 131 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: of providers in a lot of places won't take it 132 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: because the very low reimbursement rates and that's the only 133 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: way they keep costs down. So while they say you're covered, 134 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: your access to care is actually not particularly strong. This 135 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: is also known as a shortage or what ends up 136 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: in rationing when there are shortages. So that's all that 137 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: we talked about though during that debater, or I should 138 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: say that was what the media focus was. Guess what, 139 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Right now, they're going to say, it's about two thousand 140 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: dollar checks and a fifteen dollar minimum wage, and Republicans 141 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: couldn't stop this even if they wanted to. So what 142 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: you're going to see is Republicans make some noise about it, 143 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: get beat up by the Democrats verbally in talking about 144 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: in the Congress. Here they're gonna just smack them around 145 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm sorry, you don't want checks to Americans. 146 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: And if they really try to stand fast on this, 147 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: when if they if they really try to block this 148 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: massive spending package, then what happens is they're they're going 149 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of the filibuster in a way that 150 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: nobody's even gonna be upset about. I mean, yes, the 151 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: people like me will say, oh my gosh, this is 152 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: the strategy, and I see what they're doing. But what's 153 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: really going to happen is that they will they will 154 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: use this as an opportunity on something popular. This is 155 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: me telling you they are setting that they know what 156 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: they're doing. Forget about Biden. This is about the Democrat 157 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: think tanks and activist groups and packs and their staffs 158 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: and their little wonks. They understand how to set this 159 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: up so that what looks like the rescue plan for 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: America is just a complete open playing field for whatever 161 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: else Democrat want to do, including perhaps once you get 162 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: rid of the filibuster, it's going to be gone. So 163 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: they're daring Republicans. Yeah, try to filibust and by the way, 164 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Republicans don't have the backbone to do it anyway. And 165 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: then you add to that the prospect. Remember two thousand 166 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: dollars checks, fifteen dollar minimum wage, those are very popular issues. 167 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: It is unthinkable malpractice that Mitch McConnell didn't put through 168 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: the two thousand dollars checks when he could have before 169 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: the Georgia Senate election. Terrible malpractice. That was old school 170 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: GOP loser thinking. And now what people keep asking me, 171 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: what do we do? I want to tell you that 172 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: there's a better answer as a conservative than hide under 173 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: your desk. I want to tell you that brace for 174 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: impact isn't the real sentiment we should feel. But I 175 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: see all these things lining up, and when you add 176 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: to that the ability to reopen, I mean, I think 177 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Iden will figure out a way to mess this up 178 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: over the long term. I think we'll see the socialist impulse, 179 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: the collectives in the ineptitude, the social justice, many of 180 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: the climate change absurdity that will all factor into this, 181 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: and people will see, oh my gosh, the people in 182 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: charge are actually kind of nuts. What they're doing doesn't 183 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: make sense, but for right now they are. They are 184 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: teeing all of this up. They are teeing all of 185 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: this up. And the people that think that there's a 186 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: plan or that there's some and I'm just talking about 187 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: from the Congress. I'm talking about from the Republican officeholders, 188 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: of whom Donald Trump will not be one in a 189 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: few days. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. 190 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: I speak the truth. I know what should I do? 191 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Should I just tell people happy, happy fantasy stories about 192 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: the geops or we're gonna have what a Convention of 193 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: the States will save us? It will not, that's not 194 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: at least I mean certainly not from the next twelve 195 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: months and what the Democrats are planning, that's not an option. 196 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: So I appreciate. I'm sure I'll get some links sent 197 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: to me. What about a Convention of the States? Yeah, 198 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: what about the last time we did that? We didn't 199 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: do that, and it's not going to happen this time either. 200 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: But I just want everyone to see, if nothing else, 201 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: they suppressed the truth about lockdowns. They wouldn't discuss the 202 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,359 Speaker 1: data during a pandemic when people were effectively being imprisoned 203 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: and isolated in their own homes, separated from their fairly 204 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: human beings. All the drug abuse, all the miscancers, greetings, 205 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: all the overdoses, and just the depression, the actual clinical 206 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: depression that is set in for so many people across 207 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: the country. That wasn't enough for them to say, this 208 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: is above politics, Let's have an honest conversation about these lockdowns. 209 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: Because this study out of Stanford, which is what Newsweek 210 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: is citing here, says that you can't tell if there's 211 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: the data, doesn't show any appreciable benefit of going into 212 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: extreme lockdown measures over what I've been advocating for all along, 213 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: which is you don't try to stay away from big crowds, 214 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: wash your hands if you're six, stay away from people. 215 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: But they created this, this total straw man of the 216 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: COVID denialist. Oh, if you if you don't think that 217 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: every two weeks we should add some absurd addition to 218 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: the lockdown strategy. Well, now we're going to close restaurants 219 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: outdoor too. Now we're gonna add masks outdoor too, or 220 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: they just kept doing this, ratcheting it up. If you 221 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: pointed out that this was absurd, it wasn't going to 222 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: help anybody, what was their response. Their response was, you're 223 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: a COVID denialist. You know what the data shows. The 224 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: people who were saying that were wrong. And if you 225 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: just think through this on your own, you recognize, of 226 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: course that stuff didn't make a difference because the disease 227 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: wasn't really spreading outdoors in any significant way. For example, 228 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: because even with lockdowns, people are having to interact an 229 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: off that the virus is still spreading. And initially when 230 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: we were doing this, it was all about shutting down 231 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: the virus for a short period of time, shutting down 232 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: the spread not entirely, of course, for a short period 233 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: of time to allow us to get medical capacity. And 234 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: then it transitioned to know, we can stop this, No 235 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: we can't. If you pull down you know what would 236 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: have been twenty percent of cases, let's say, or thirty 237 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: percent of cases over a two week period. But then 238 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: you extend what you're doing over nine months twelve months, 239 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: you end up at rough basically the same number. That's 240 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: the point. It doesn't really change the eventual outcome here, 241 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: which is what we're seeing all around the country. But 242 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: they are just beginning to talk about it now because 243 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: here's what I think will happen. They're going to hold 244 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,239 Speaker 1: out the reopen as well. They're going to leverage reopen 245 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: as a means of silencing political descent from people like 246 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: me who are going to point to all the pork 247 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: and all the special interest stuff and all the social 248 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: justice warrior nonsense that's going to be contained in the 249 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: in the save US package that Biden is putting out there. 250 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom Life. This is the Buck Sexton 251 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Show podcast. But they need about we need about four 252 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: hundred billion in funding from Congress to make all of it. 253 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: I just said happen. It's a great deal. But I'm 254 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: convinced we're ready to get this done. The very health 255 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: of our nation is at stake. Our rescue plan also 256 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: includes a media relief to Americans hardest hit and most 257 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: in need. We will finish the job of getting a 258 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: total of two thousand dollars in cash relief to people 259 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: who needed the most. The six hundred dollars already appropriated 260 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: simply not enough if you just have to choose between 261 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: paying rent and putting food on the table. Even for 262 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: those who kept their jobs, these checks are really important. 263 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: See if you're an American worker making forty thousand dollars 264 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: a year with less than four hundred dollars in savings, 265 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: maybe you've lost hours, or maybe you're doing fewer shifts 266 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: driving a truck or caring for the kids or the elderly. 267 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: You're out there putting your life on the line to 268 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: work during this pandemic and worried every week that you 269 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: get sick, lose your job, or worse. Two thousand dollars 270 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: is going to go a long way to ease that pain. 271 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Four hundred billion dollars to combat the pandemic, with money 272 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: to accelerate the vaccine deployment. Three hundred and fifty billion 273 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: dollars for state and local governments that have budget shortfalls. 274 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: That's right, the blue cities that excessively shut down out 275 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: of COVID panic, and also because it was bad for 276 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: the economy and bad for Trump. That was, there were 277 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: political calculations made here, No question. Three hundred and fifty 278 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: billion dollars going to them. That covers a lot of 279 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: budget shortfalls. And what this means is that the taxpay 280 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: are you those of you who live in redters states 281 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: or places that didn't really lock down, you are now 282 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: subsidizing the lockdown cities. That's what's happening. So, as I've 283 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: been telling you along, if you think, oh, it's not 284 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: that bad in my area, so this is more of 285 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: a problem for the big cities or something, Nope, if 286 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: you live in North Dakota, your federal income taxes now 287 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: are going to pay for firefighters and teachers, unions and 288 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: you name it. You know, sanitation workers in Los Angeles, Boston, 289 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: New York, Washington, d C. That's what this is. And 290 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Pelosi's gambit as grotesque and and really just nasty as 291 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing was to hold up all this aid, 292 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: I tell you the truth, and that means I'm telling 293 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: you that worked worked the same way that you know 294 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: that that Democrats complained so much about the gamble that 295 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: the Republicans took by not putting forward, putting through I 296 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: should say Merrick Garland for a vote in the Senate, 297 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: and then Trump won in twenty sixteen, Nancy Pelosi held up, 298 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: held up aid. The media did her bidding. It was terrible. 299 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: People suffered. But now guess what Democrats get to be 300 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: get to be the great distributor of goodies to the 301 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: American people. This is gonna be tough. This is gonna 302 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: be tough. I don't mean that part is tough. I 303 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: mean how we actually slow down the other aspects of 304 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the Democrat agenda without looking like we're saying no, don't 305 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: give the American people aid an assistance. This is how 306 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: they're doing it. They tie these things together and increasingly 307 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: in what you'll see and the media will play a 308 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: huge role in this is taking the Biden agenda, the 309 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: whole legislative agenda, and making it seem like it's running 310 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: in parallel. It's running in parallel with the reopen. So 311 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: if you oppose the Biden agenda, aren't you really just 312 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: opposing the reopen Because come on, they're getting money out there, 313 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: they're getting going. We are heading into the toughest, the 314 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: toughest time for American political opposition to the the Democrat 315 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: left in a decade. That's what's happening right now. Thanks 316 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: for listening. To remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the 317 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. The gas 318 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: lighting over BLM is going to get worse and worse 319 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: right now. They're going to completely change the history of 320 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: that movement. And I remember it well because BLM was used. 321 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: As I remember, there's some complexities here. There's actual BLM protests, 322 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: there's Antifa taking it upon themselves to act on behalf 323 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: of BLM, which they were doing constantly, and then there's 324 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: just the looting and riots that would occur after a 325 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: BLM protest but in the name of BLM. So there's 326 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: there's these different components. But overall, if referring to the 327 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: movement of Black Lives Matter, it resulted in a lot 328 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: of destruction in American cities. It resulted in dozens of deaths. 329 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: And if you look at the overall homicide rates in 330 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: major American cities, they've as a percentage, gone up dramatically. 331 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: They will just be prepared for this. The Democrats will 332 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: tell you, oh, homicide is still at a ten year 333 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: low in the country, or whatever it may be. Overall, 334 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: that is true. The trajectory has been going down for 335 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: a long time, which is fascinating. Isn't it. Because we're 336 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: always told that if only we got rid of more, 337 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: if only we harass lawful gun owners more, the crime 338 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: rate wouldn't be so terrible. But meanwhile, there are more 339 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: and more guns and people's hands. Of the last twenty years, 340 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: you've got over three hundred million people who say, buck, 341 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: it's five hundred million, but hundreds of millions of legal 342 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: firearms in Americans hands. And yet the crime rate had 343 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: been steadily going down for the last it's really long 344 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years. Crime overall has been going 345 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: down for decades, but this year there is a jump up. 346 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: This year you're seeing cities like New York and Boston 347 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: and Chicago and Los Angeles. Don't I don't know all 348 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: the numbers offhand, but you know you're talking about fifty 349 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: to one hundred percent increases in shootings in some of 350 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: these cities, really bad year to year increase. And that's 351 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: a result of the change in police tactics from b 352 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: LM and I'm sorry, change the police tactics from BLM's 353 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: demands that there'll be less aggressive policing. And that's and 354 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: also people not wanting to lose their jobs, their livelihoods, 355 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: their pensions because they become a target of a BLM protester, 356 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: or it becomes one of these cases. You saw this 357 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I mean, there was a guy who over 358 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the summer ran at a police officer with a knife drawn, screaming, 359 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: clearly deranged, and you know, yes, the guy's mentally disturbed. 360 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: It's a tragic situation. But the cop does not have 361 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: an obligation to get stabbed in the face before he's 362 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: and uses his weapon. This is all on video. We 363 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: all thought they made an issue of that case. Well, 364 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: if you're a police officer and you see that, you 365 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, what exactly am I supposed to do? 366 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: And now, when you're driving on your patrol car, you 367 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: don't you see something going on down that proverbial dark alley, right, 368 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: you see something happening, you know, you just keep going 369 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: unless you get a call that you can't ignore. You're 370 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: you're just gonna focus on other things. Well, that makes 371 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: everybody in the community less safe, That makes everybody more 372 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: subject to random and wanton violence. But there's a big, 373 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: big effort underway right now to make sure that the 374 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: right is going to be treated like the exclusive the 375 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: exclusive perpetrator of political violence. That's it's a narrative they're 376 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: trying to build right now, that's what they're doing. You 377 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: have the age for DC Carl Racine saying this about 378 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: BLM protests. Now, by the way, we shouldn't be comparing 379 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: BLM protests with Capitol riots, that's true, or with the 380 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: Capitol riot. I should say we should not compare those things. 381 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: We should compare the hundreds of BLM riots with the 382 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: Capitol riots or riot sea isn't that important plural versus 383 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: versus singular. But we should compare what happened in Kenosha, 384 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: We should compare what happened in Minneapolis. We should compare 385 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: those incidents with Capitol Hill. And then I think that's 386 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that's a much more apples to apples comparison. But anyway, 387 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: here's what the District of Columbia AG has to say 388 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: about a Place six in regards to Black Lives Matter 389 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: and the comparison to an attempt of insurrection at the Capitol. 390 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: I think it speaks for itself when people like Honor 391 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: will Madis made clear that what this was was an 392 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: attempted insurrection into our democratic ways. We know quite easily 393 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: that the Black Lives Matter protest was unbelievably different. And 394 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: by the way, do not let anyone, including Ken Cucinelli 395 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: or other elected officials, tell you that Democratic elected people 396 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: did not condemn the violence that occurred during the summer protests. 397 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: They always did, I always did. I get to tell you, though, 398 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: trying to overturn an election with violence, including violence on 399 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: police officers, is something very, very different. They should be 400 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: held to account or their lives. Just not true that 401 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: they all condemned the violence of b ELEMENT. It's just 402 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: not true. We would hear not only did they not 403 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: condemn the violence, but they also created this special epidemiological 404 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: loophole for BLM to continue to do the protest that 405 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: it was doing, for BLM to engage in this behavior 406 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: while we are supposed to all be avoiding crowds and gatherings. Oh, 407 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: it's it's about saving black lives, though they told us 408 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: that was the line. Therefore, it's it's actually protecting life 409 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: to have massive crowds gathered. Now, you've heard me say 410 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: many times the virus doesn't really spread outdoors according to 411 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: the actual science. But I also don't think if you're 412 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: gathered in a tightly packed crowd of a thousand people 413 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: screaming for hours on end. I mean it might the 414 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: virus might spread a little bit there. I think that's 415 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: fair to say walking down the street alone, no, but 416 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: if you are all together in a very dense crowd, 417 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: that may change. Anyway. They created a special exception for that. 418 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: But the Democrats mobilize with this. The Democrats mobilized their 419 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: base in the election year. As I said, they were 420 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: all along. This was effective for them. The people who 421 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: are telling you that everything was fine, that Trump had 422 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: this under control, that there was a plan, that they 423 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: were wrong. They were wrong about the preparations for the 424 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: election beforehand. With regard to challenging all these the way 425 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: the way they were switching, the deadlines and mail and 426 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: ballot procedures and all this. The Trump campaign did did 427 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: not get ahead of that issue. And I've spoken to 428 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: people who are on the campaign about this. The Trump 429 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: campaign didn't get ahead of that. The messaging around BLM 430 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and Antifa was not strong enough. The President kept tweeting 431 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: out law and order. It was insufficient obviously. I mean, 432 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: you have the president the United States, you're supposed to 433 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: be law and order. A guy and you had riots 434 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: and mayhem from Democrats for basically the whole summer. This 435 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: was this was not a good look. As they say, 436 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: this did not work out well. But now you're going 437 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: to see the So look, I want us to understand 438 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: what happened so we can do better going forward. I 439 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: think that's necessary. I think that's helpful for us. Well, 440 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: we can also look at what they're what they're going 441 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: to do now and understand their plan and rewriting the 442 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: history of black lives matter and making i mean the 443 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill riot I'm seeing today. They're saying that there 444 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: were guys who wanted to break in there and they 445 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: they were going to take members of Congress hostage or something. 446 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: And at least in one case, they're referring to somebody 447 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: who ran in there with like a like a beaver 448 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: pelt on his head and all painted up, who's also 449 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: told authority since he's been a custody that he thinks 450 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: he's a member of an alien race. I'm being serious. 451 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who's who's clearly has 452 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: has like mental illness problems, serious ones. But but you 453 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: and I, because we voted for Trump, were responsible for 454 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: for this guy why I had nothing to do with 455 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: this person. I don't support him. I think that I 456 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: think person needs needs honest and serious like theatric assistance. 457 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: And then there's also this, so there's that you're being told, 458 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: oh there, that this was this was the equivalent of 459 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: an armed insurrection to overthrow the United States government. That's 460 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: the way the media is reporting on this when we've 461 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: all seen that, Yes, there's somebody. They killed the police officer, 462 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: they were in a fight that they shouldn't have been in. 463 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: They caused a fight, and they attack cops and you 464 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't do this, and this is wrong. I don't think 465 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: they intended to kill that officer with the with the 466 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: fire I mean with the fire extinguisher, but they did, 467 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: and they have to be held fully accountable. But there 468 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: are also gradations here, there are levels that we have 469 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: to take an account. What's the difference between a riot 470 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: and the kind of insurrection that the media is talking 471 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: about right now for obvious political purposes. I mean, you 472 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: could have had people and God forbid, and everyone should 473 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: be peaceful. And I don't think I don't think any 474 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: any protests right now before the inauguration. It doesn't I 475 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: don't think it serves anyone's purpose for the movement. I 476 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: really don't. I don't think it's a good idea. I mean, 477 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: peaceful protests fine, but I just would prefer personally that 478 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: everything just right now, we calm down the Biden administrations 479 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: coming into power. Let's let that, Let's let the peaceful 480 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: transfer happen, and then we can start having bigger demonstrations, peaceful, 481 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: law abiding ones about what's going on. And let's also 482 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: be honest. The Democrats won't care and the media won't 483 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: cover it, and we don't have Trump anymore at the 484 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: head of the movement. So you know, this is I 485 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I hope everyone appreciates. This show is like 486 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: reality hour. I'm seeing some of what other conservatives are 487 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: putting out there right now, and they're just I don't 488 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: really know a lot of people, a lot of people 489 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: got very far just just grabbing onto the Trumpster. Oh 490 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: as long as I talk about how awesome Trump is, 491 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: everybody will like me and listen to me or watch 492 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: me or whatever. Okay, Well that doesn't work anymore. That's 493 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: not going to happen now. I think Trump is going 494 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: to continue to have a voice once he leaves office 495 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: and will play a role in movement. How big a role, 496 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, But we gotta tend to what's going on, 497 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: what's going on right now. Um oh, I was talking 498 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: about the layers of analysis here. We'd have to apply 499 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: to the Capitol Hill what they're calling the insurrection. Insurrection 500 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: in other countries would involve sending people with automatic weapons 501 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: to overtake with force and to hold and to say 502 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: we're in charge now, and we're the government now. That's 503 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: that's really what an insurrection is. So that's that's completely 504 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: To think that what happened at Capitol Hill rises to 505 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: that level, which is how they're treating it, that's that's 506 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: just not honest analysis of the situation. There was no reality, 507 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: There was no future in which they were going to 508 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: hold the capitol and hold the government. A lot of 509 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: the people in there were just running around like idiots, 510 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: taking selfies, and you know, they thought that this was 511 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: some kind of a don't I don't even know, honestly, 512 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: what they were thinking is a little bit beyond me. 513 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: Not the people outside who are holding up placards and 514 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: protesting and saying that they're concerned and they feel the 515 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: election was stolen, and then I totally get where they're 516 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: coming from. But running around inside the capitol, it doesn't 517 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: make sense to me. And it's a lot worse than 518 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. But you know what I'm saying, 519 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even put my mind in 520 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: a place where I could see how that decision would 521 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: be made. But then there's also the first person that 522 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: we've seen here who is in agent provocateurs, somebody who 523 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: is clearly a BLM left wing activist who was encouraging 524 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: people inside the Capitol to engage in this kind of behavior. 525 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: He's basically saying, Yeah, this is great, let's go Ryant. 526 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: You know he's been on CNN before too. There's federal 527 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: charges now filed against the guy, so he was. There 528 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: were leftists, There were leftists throwing gasoline on the fire. 529 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: There were a lot of a lot of my people, 530 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: though a lot of Trump supporters, that's also true. But 531 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: we have at least one leftist now that the Department 532 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: of Justice has said was in their exacerbating things and 533 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: making things worse, and they're they're bringing serious, serious charges 534 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: against him. You're in the freedom mud. This is the 535 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Podcast. My office was tasked with the 536 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: responsibility of launching a civil investigation into the New York 537 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: City Police Department's response to these protests. But we found 538 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: was an egregious abuse of police power, rampant excessive use 539 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: of force, and leadership unable and unwilling to stop it. 540 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: There you have the Attorney General for New York, Leticia James, 541 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: who has said that she's going to use her She's 542 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: been open about her use her prosecutorial powers to go 543 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: after Trump, and not just while he's in office, getting 544 00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: ready for that. She's calling out the NYPD's that's the problem. 545 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: You see, this is very deeply ingrained and the Democrat 546 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: left mindset that the issue with with violence in cities, 547 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: and the and the and the problem with these protests 548 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: that turned into riots is the cops. The real problems 549 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: the cops. This is going to be commonplace. You're gonna 550 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: hear this all the way from the very top. They'll 551 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: always say this, they'll do this, this this throat clearing 552 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: about you know, or we respect her, you know, Joe 553 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: Biden will say, oh, we respect her law enforcement officers, comma. 554 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: But there's so much racism with cops and cops are 555 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: so racist and they're bad, and we need to stop 556 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: them from being such racists. Say, well, if cops are 557 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: so bad and so racist, how are you Why why 558 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: would you respect them, Joe Biden? Why would you think 559 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: that they deserve the benefit of the doubt for doing 560 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: what's a very difficult and even dangerous job. But this 561 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: is this is just that's just to cover themselves so 562 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: that some people go, well, I guess the Democrats don't really, 563 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: they're not really willing to. And look when I say 564 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: they hate the cops, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, 565 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: they're all going to call them. First of all, they've 566 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: all got security details start with that. They've they've all 567 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: got personal police. But even beyond that, yeah, of course 568 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: they'd call the cops the moment that somebody, you know, 569 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: somebody's baseball fell and Nancy's petunia is in her backyard 570 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: of her mansion in San Francisco. They don't hate copses, 571 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: and they don't want to use the cops, but they 572 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: will pretend, they will play kate that sentiment that the 573 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: police are the real problem. And this is why you've 574 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: got Latsia James, the Attorney General for New York State, saying, oh, yeah, 575 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: the issue here is that the NYPD they were really 576 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: out of line. They were really doing bad stuff. That's 577 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: interesting because I remember when I was talking to people 578 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,479 Speaker 1: who work in my building. I live in a tall 579 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: apartment building in New York City, and there's a staff 580 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: that works in the building, and there was some at 581 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: the front desk, and they were worried about what would 582 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: happen if somebody came in and SMA, the smashed up 583 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: the lobby. It's all glass, smashed up the lobby and 584 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: started smashing you know, what do they do? This was 585 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: on the Purge night when they were smashing windows across 586 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: the street. So this isn't some some irrational fear to 587 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: have when there's mobs of people running through the streets 588 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: freely and breaking stores and breaking store windows and stealing stuff, 589 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: including on Fifth Avenue in one of the most visible 590 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: and high end shopping districts in the whole world. It's 591 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: understandable why you'd be concerned. Who's gonna come and help 592 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 1: me if this mob decides that they want to start 593 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: going after private homes. Who's gonna Who's gonna help me? 594 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,959 Speaker 1: If the mob decides that they don't like the look 595 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: on my face and they're gonna this is Oh, but 596 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: the cops were the problem that night, right, The cops 597 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: were the problem for the riots that kept happening and 598 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: happening and happening. Did Democrats ever call for it to stop? 599 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Do you remember a single prominent 600 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: Democrat coming forward and saying, you're really the BLM movement's 601 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: really about police for form and making this a better country, 602 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: So we have to absolutely stop all acts of destruction 603 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: and criminal behavior. Do you remember that speech? Well, I 604 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: know you don't because it didn't happen. There was no 605 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: Democrat who was making that point. Thanks for listening to 606 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: The bus Essence Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, 607 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: at the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 608 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that Joe Biden should pardon Trump as 609 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: Ford did Nixon. I don't know he should, at least 610 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: he should consider it. Now. I don't know whether Donald Trump, 611 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: he's not a genius, but he might figure out that 612 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: if he accepts a pardon, that's an admission of guilt. 613 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: At the United States Supreme Court has said, so, I 614 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: don't know that he would accept a pardon, but as 615 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: part of healing the country and getting us to a 616 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: place where we can focus on things that are going 617 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: to matter over the next four years. I think Joe 618 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: Biden's going to have to least think about that, Joe 619 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Biden pardoning Trump for what exactly. Trump wouldn't accept it, 620 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: because the only thing that they leave at this point, 621 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: and after all the fake charges and we'll talk in 622 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: a second about the declassifying of documents that that's expected 623 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: to happen today or imminently, the fake charges out there 624 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: that they used over the years, the Russia collusion and 625 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: treason and all this stuff. Now they're going to get 626 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: them on incitement to violence. Gonna be pretty tough. It's 627 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty tough to convince a fair minded jury. 628 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean, all you need is one person who's basically 629 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: a Republican because it would become very political. Any jury 630 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: pool would be inherently tainted, right, all you need those 631 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: one Republican on a jury. You just need one, do 632 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: you hear? He said, go be peaceful at the Capitol 633 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: and have your voices heard. And a bunch of people 634 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: decided to destroy and destroy things and attack cops that's 635 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: not on him, right, So saying that he won the 636 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: election by a landslide might be improper and you know, 637 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: not accurate, not true. But we're talking about incite into insurrection. 638 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: We're not talking about some bessing about an election that 639 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: he should have been He should have been more clear 640 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: on exactly where where we had proof and what proof 641 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: we had. So I don't think that you'd be able 642 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: to get a conviction. So that means that that Donald 643 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: Trump would not accept. Why would you accept a pardon 644 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: for a conviction, I'm sorry, a pardon for a crime 645 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: that you had not committed. I don't think that will happen. 646 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: It's fascinating that James Comey is still elevated by the media. 647 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not surprising, but you have to dig 648 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: into this for a second. Here's a guy who acted 649 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: like a scorned high school teenager when he was fired 650 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: by Trump and then released documents of his own his 651 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: own memos to the New York Times. But he outmaneuvered 652 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: Trump on getting a special counsel done. This is the 653 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: truth I know, and now we get Now we get 654 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: to finally say about the four D chests and all 655 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. What's true, what's not? Where was Trump amazing? 656 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: Trump was amazing on saying things that other people were 657 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: unwilling to say that were true. Trump was amazing on 658 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: fighting the media and driving them completely insane and making 659 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: them make utter buffoons of themselves. Right, there were so 660 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: much and also just understanding this whole piece of America, right, 661 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: seventy five million Trump voters the last time around, but 662 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: understanding what they're frustrated about, why they're not getting a 663 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: fair deal, and what could be done, what could be 664 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: done by the government to make things better. So I 665 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: understand all the most the biggest assets that Trump brings 666 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: to bear. But on the whole, oh he's four dh 667 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: This is what I was saying. We weren't allowed to 668 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: from his own team try to make it better. We 669 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to do it. People didn't want to hear it. 670 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: You had to just be out there saying everything was amazing. 671 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: You know, had to be you know, it's like we 672 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: were all Trump's therapist. Oh you're doing great, everything's great, 673 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: You're doing a fantastic job. You know, go easier on 674 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: yourself because everything's great. But on the Special Council and 675 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: how that went down, obviously, James Comey was able to 676 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: do real harm to the administration. It was it was 677 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: deeply harmful to have the Special Council investigating them. It 678 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: was more challenging. I think a lot of people realize 679 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: because I spoke to individuals who had to get lawyers, 680 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: and they were really worried about getting the Papadopolis treatment, 681 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: where they're just coming after you. They have member the 682 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: federal government aid. Federal government prosecutors in this case had 683 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: endless resources, endless resources to come after whoever they wanted to. Basically, 684 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: they spend forty million dollars. I mean, how many people 685 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: have one hundred thousand dollars of their own amount of 686 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: legal defense. Not very many. So they've got forty million 687 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: dollars at their disposed. Those lawyers get paid, Those prosecutors, 688 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: the Special Counsel get paid. Whether they win or lose 689 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: doesn't matter really to them. And your life is on 690 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: the line essentially, certainly your reputation and your freedom are 691 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: as well as your finances, your life savings. And the 692 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: truth is they were they were using the process as 693 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: a weapon in an effective way. They were using the 694 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: process as a weapon in a way that we have 695 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: to be aware of because it largely worked. It was 696 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: mostly mostly effective. Now they didn't get what they wanted 697 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: in the end, which was the impeachment and removal of 698 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: Trump from office using the Special Counsel Report as a roadmap. 699 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: But as I've told you, I think that's because Attorney 700 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: General bar saw what they were trying to do and 701 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: headed them off at the pass, which is also why 702 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: I refused to join the AG. Bar was a sellout 703 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: and a deep state fake and all the stuff that 704 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: people were saying about that, I don't think that was fair. 705 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: People are entitled their opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't 706 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: think that was fair. I don't think that was fair 707 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: to somebody that did a lot for the administration and 708 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: understands the threat from the left, would and would speak 709 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: openly about what the left is doing to this country. 710 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: Now we're going to get even more information. But there's 711 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: a there's a frustration, a clear frustration that I have 712 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: around this because Trump is going to declassify. I spoke 713 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: to the President about declassifying and told him that he 714 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: should in twenty eighteen, I think it was two years 715 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: and change ago. I was in the Oval Office with 716 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: the President. It was before I was doing an interview 717 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: with him and I was like, sir, you're going to declassify, right, No, Nope, 718 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: didn't declassify. And I think that there's going to be there. 719 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: They're going to release documents now. That's that's at least 720 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: what the reporting is saying. Okay, so what are we 721 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: going to do with it? Now? What You're going to 722 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: declassify a whole bunch of stuff about Russia collusion. So 723 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out that Hillary Clinton was a fraud 724 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: in this whole thing, and she knew what was going on, 725 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: that she used the Russia collusion scam to try to 726 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: offset her very real email scam which was not going 727 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: away the email crisis for her for the election, and 728 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: that this was all manufactured by the DNC. And Christopher 729 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: Steele has ties to Fiona Hill and that's coming out, 730 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: and there's all these different moving pieces. I'm glad that 731 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: we'll get some truth and transparency on this. And I 732 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: know there is still a Durham probe, there is still 733 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: a special counsel that could do something, But I think 734 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: it's unrealistic to believe that this is somehow going to 735 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: be so much better. This is going to be so 736 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: much better now. You know, we are going into a 737 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: Biden administration. They're going to be in charge of the government, 738 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: and we're going to know more of the truth of 739 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: Russia collusion, and then what are we going to do? 740 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: What are we going to do about it? You know? 741 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 1: This is this is where we are. I've I wanted 742 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: this to get out two years ago. I said to 743 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: release information now, and nope, oh no, you know, trust 744 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: trust in the four dhs. That's what we were told. Well, yeah, 745 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: that's not not really the plan that it needed to be. 746 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: I've also been very very clear with you about how 747 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: the the purge of Trump from Twitter was just the 748 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: beginning of a longer term effort. You have Jack Dorsey. 749 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: This is from a Twitter a Twitter insider recording Jack 750 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: Dorsey talking about the political censorship that we should all 751 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: be expecting going forward. So, as I've said, they want 752 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: us all to concede on this stuff. Oh, Trump's a 753 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: clear and present danger. We need the right to make 754 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: political determinations about whether there's someone it's just too dangerous 755 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: to public discourse to kick them off of social media platforms. 756 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: But we've been led to believe that that stops when 757 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: Biden comes into office and that everything will calm down. No, no, 758 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: why would they do that. They like this, This is 759 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: enormously helpful to them. Here is Jack Dorsey himself telling everybody, 760 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: this is a bigger plan, folks play fifteen. You know, 761 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: we are focused on one account right now, but this 762 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: is going to be much bigger than just want to count, 763 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: and it's going to go on for much longer than 764 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: just this day, this week, for the next few weeks, 765 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: to go on beyond the inauguration. We have to expect 766 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: that we haven't being ready for that. So the focus 767 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: is certainly on this account and how it ties into 768 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: real Roald violence, but also we need to think much 769 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: longer term around how do these dynamics play out over time. 770 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: I don't believe this is going away anytime soon, and 771 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: the moves that we're making today around Quanon, for instance, 772 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: to one such an example of a much broader approach 773 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: that we should be looking at and in current Keepron. 774 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: So the team has a lot of work and a 775 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: lot of focus on this particular issue. We also need 776 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 1: to get in the space and the support to focus 777 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: on the much bigger picture because it is not going away. 778 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm there. You know, the the US is extremely divided. 779 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: Our platform is showing that every single day, and our 780 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: role is to protect the integrity of that conversation and 781 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: do what we can to make sure that no one 782 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: is being harmed based on that, And that is the focus, 783 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: and that is the color we want to provide, protect 784 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: the integrity of the conversation. Maybe we could take that 785 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: a little more seriously from the CEO of one of 786 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: the biggest social media platforms on the planet. Maybe we 787 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: could listen to them without wanting to just either gaffall 788 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: in laughter or cry at the absurdity of this. If 789 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: they hadn't allowed the President of the United States to 790 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: be called a traitor and a Russian asset for four years, 791 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean they've done it all four years, and to 792 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: lie and lie endlessly and pedal false information using platforms 793 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: like Twitter about Russia collusion. Maybe then we could listen 794 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: to this and not feel like it was such an 795 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: obvious and transparent fraud. But this is this is the future, 796 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: and I do believe it's a wake up call to 797 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of conservatives out there, 798 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: that we need Some of us have been calling for 799 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: this for a long time, and we need to start 800 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: setting up more infrastructure. We need an entire information ecosystem 801 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: that is a business. It has to be a business. 802 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: It can't be just charities. It can't be sending more 803 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: checks the Heritage Foundation. It has to be a functioning, 804 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: standalone ecosystem of with profit and loss and you know, 805 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: growth strategy. We got to have the media component of it. 806 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: You have to have sales and advertising, the actual digital 807 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: infrastructure and and this this all needs to happen because 808 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: otherwise you're going to be at weirdo Jack Dorsey's Mercy. 809 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: That's where this is all heading. You're in the Freedom 810 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: und This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. I 811 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: wonder if you have thought through kind of how Republicans 812 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: begin what someone on my team earlier today called deep 813 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: bathification of the Republican Party. And I wonder if Liz Cheney, 814 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, her statement being the thing that Republicans used, 815 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: I mean, the Democrats us sorry to explain why they 816 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: need to impeak Donald Trump. Is there a little wing 817 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party that you think can do this 818 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: sort of debathification of the party and can it work? 819 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: At this point? It's interesting debathification refers to removing bath 820 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: party officials from the government to military infrastructure in Iraq 821 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: post US invasion two thousand and three. MSNBC's Joy Reid 822 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: seems to think that de bathification worked out well. Women 823 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: did not. It led to continued, long standing insurgency a 824 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of violence, but she wants de bathification of 825 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: the GOP. This also makes me think to somebody else 826 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: who knows quite a bit about what happened in Iraq. 827 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: My friend Brandon Webb joins us right now. He is 828 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: a former Navy seal and best selling author. You can 829 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: also check out his latest and his team's latest at 830 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: softrep dot com. Brandon, good to see you. Good to 831 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: see you, Buck. So we have some really overheated political 832 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: rhetoric going on right now. Tell me about about what 833 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: your thought are with with all these many, many thousands 834 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: of National Guard troops. Who are I think they're they're 835 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: carrying like six full mags and I mean they they 836 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: they're armed up for looks like counterinsurgency operations. What's going on? Yeah, 837 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean I've never, to be honest, I've never felt 838 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: so close to the brink of potential civil war in America. 839 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: I would never thought I would even utter those words. 840 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: The thing that's you know, as a former seal and 841 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: a combat veteran that I find, um, I find it 842 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: a little funny that you know, Pelosi and Gang feel 843 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: comfortable calling essentially what are reservists. So these are kids 844 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: that are in school, um, you know, part time army, 845 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: and they're being summoned to the Capitol. Probably most of 846 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: them never had any combat experience or combat service. These 847 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: like young kids, and are they really going to be 848 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: pitted against armed, angry Americans in the Capitol. I just like, 849 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: I can't see a nineteen year old kid really drawing 850 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: down with an M for assault rifle on a fellow American. 851 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: So I just see that. You know that what the 852 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: Democrats are doing is just throwing gas on the fire 853 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: and just making things worse, Like let's let's just let 854 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: the process run its course. Um, but you know, pushing 855 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: that all these National Guard and obviously you know, now 856 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: the you know, Biden has the most of the press 857 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: behind him, um, at least the liberal media, and they're 858 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: just pushing this in the headlines to kind of thinking 859 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: that this is going to kind of quell the situation. 860 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: And it's just not the case, like these these are 861 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: like young kids. Yeah, well and and they're they're showing 862 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: all these photos of them sleeping on the marble floors 863 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: of the United States Capital and and they're they're you 864 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: everyn Remember, DC already has a tremendous security presence. I 865 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: mean you've got all the different that the presence of 866 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,240 Speaker 1: all the different federal law enforcement agencies, you know, Secret 867 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: Service and and people that work uh, you know, a 868 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: at the FBI, And I mean they've all got fully 869 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: automatic weapons and all kinds of tactical gear and you know, 870 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: and then you add to this metro police and everything 871 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: else we need. What is it nine thousand or something. 872 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: National Guard has been deployed in DC right now. It 873 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: feels like what are they What are they really prepared for? 874 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: Because they're not They're they're not looking like they're prepared 875 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 1: for crowd control brand And that that's the part of 876 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: this that I think is some people so uneasy. Summoning 877 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 1: the National Guard to DC is like bringing a knife 878 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: to a gunfight. Like if you really want to be prepared, 879 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: like sending the Ranger battalion, you know, like that's like 880 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: a serious, um you know, threat response, but it's just again, 881 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: it's like I feel like, really we're you know, we're 882 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: at the point where, you know, the things that the 883 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: Democrats are doing just to kind of egg egg people on. 884 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 1: I just don't I don't understand like why they're escalating 885 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 1: this to to a certain level when when it should 886 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: be about de escalization and getting back to you know, 887 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: the what the founding fathers wanted us to do is 888 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: like a government elected by the people or the people. Um, 889 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: I just it's a it's an interesting time. And like 890 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: I said, I have a lot of friends who are nervous. 891 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 1: Um rightfully, so I think that a lot of Americans 892 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: are fed up. They're fed up with the electoral process. 893 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, we're we're essentially in the dark ages like 894 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: we might as well just you know, be an African republic, right, 895 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: Like we're counting ballots by hand. This is this is 896 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: like twenty twenty one. We should be voting on cell phones. Um, 897 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's just and again, we have this elect 898 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: electoral process that delivers us really two poor choices every 899 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: four years. So so Brandon, before we before we let 900 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: you go, just tell everybody what you're what you're working 901 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: on right now, because we haven't heard from you in 902 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: a while. I know you got some things in the pipeline. Yeah, 903 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: so you know I'm still running software dot com. We 904 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: started a Mastermind group for professionals and that I'm I'm 905 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: actually leading myself, called the Red Circle Mastermind. I'm excited 906 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: about that. It's essentially a place where where people we 907 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: can create accountability together and drive people towards towards their goals. 908 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: And I think twenty twenty one is going to be 909 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: a challenging year, but there's a lot of opportunities on 910 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: the horizon. And if anyone wants to check that out, 911 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: that that's just my last name, web dot Team, um, 912 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: web dot team dot com, and that'll throw you right 913 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: into the Mastermind group. But that that's kind of what 914 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm up to you right now. Well real quick, what's 915 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: a Mastermind group? Essentially? You could think of it as 916 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: a group of professionals like you are, who you hang 917 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: out with. So I'm building this group of professionals that 918 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: want to hold themselves accountable, set purpose and goals in 919 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 1: their life, and have a system and an environment that 920 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: creates accountability for that. So all right, well, Brandon, thanks 921 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: for your service and your expertise. My friend. Always good 922 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thanks for listening to The Bus 923 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the 924 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's not 925 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: going to stop with Trump. You know that there are 926 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: other people they want to make an example of. I'm 927 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: talking about elected officials. They want to humiliate them, they 928 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: want to get rid of them. If you have been 929 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: effective at all in opposition to the Democrat agenda, you're 930 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: now a target for Democrats to expel you, to override 931 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: the will of those voters. And it starts with things 932 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: like calls for censorship. You remember a curious jilla brand 933 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,280 Speaker 1: senator from New York, a severe mediocrity, and that's probably 934 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 1: too kind. She was one who looks she'll say whatever 935 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: she has to say, whatever she has to say it. 936 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: But I guess that's true of a lot of politicians. 937 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: But she wants a censure motion for Ted Cruise and 938 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: Josh Holly play fourteen. President Trump was not the only 939 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: person egging on supporters or pushing the election lie. He 940 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 1: had two lieutenants in the Senate leading the charge on 941 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: the election fraud. Line, and that was Ted Cruise and 942 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: Josh Holly. Do you think they should face consequences? I do, 943 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: and I think we should consider a censure motion for 944 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: both of them again to continue the lie that the 945 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: Electoral College votes shouldn't have been counted, that some extra 946 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: judicious review was necessary after it's been through the courts, 947 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 1: certified by States Business, the States Rights issue. I think 948 00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: it was extremely irresponsible, and I think the appropriate response 949 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: would be a centure motion. Cent your motion. You think 950 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: they're gonna leave it there? No, of course not have 951 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 1: there been any centure motions for Democrat officials who pushed 952 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: the Russia collusion hoax. You'll notice there's a very important 953 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: difference you see here in the timelines. The left lied 954 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: about Trump not winning the twenty sixteen election for first 955 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: entire presidency. They've never been willing to admit that that 956 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: was a lie. That they don't admit that that was 957 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: all a fraud, and they've they faced no consequences for 958 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: it whatsoever through any process or anything else. Right, They've 959 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: just maybe some people who pay attention to the public 960 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: realize that these people are liars and they're disgraceful, But 961 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: there's no actions taken against them, and in any case, 962 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: they won the twenty sixteen election, I mean twenty twenty 963 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: election against Trump, so they feel like this was a 964 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: win for them. They feel like this was a good 965 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: a good thing. Well, all right, now we see that 966 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: they want to take this and they want us to 967 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: forget about the fact that Republicans had questions about an 968 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: election and Trump supporters and voters and the GOP had 969 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: questions about an election that lasted essentially until the votes 970 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: were counted in the Congress, and of course there was 971 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: the riot. The riot was awful. But since then, I mean, 972 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: the GOP said, all right, I mean, it's this is done. 973 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: Trump has said it. This is Joe Biden's going to 974 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: be the president. Democrats, yes, I understand, they accepted through 975 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 1: the process that Trump was going to be the president. 976 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: But then they created an end run on that process 977 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: with the FBI investigation, a crossfire hurricane, and the special 978 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: counsel and the entire media apparatus lying about the president 979 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: as a traitor. And they actually took this to the courts. 980 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean they took this too. They took this all 981 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: the way. They went to the FISA court and then 982 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: they went all the way with the special counsel, no 983 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: accountability for that whatsoever, and they that was the whole 984 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: thing was a lie. Trump and the Trump campaign had 985 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Russia. Russia didn't change the election outcome, 986 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: although sixty to seventy percent of Democrats thought Russia actually 987 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: changed the numbers that the voting machines were counting, just 988 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: to get just to give you a sense of of 989 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: how much there was there. So it's it's frustrating as 990 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: all hacked to see right now that they're they're claiming 991 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: that this is some unprecedented, unprecedented threat to our our 992 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: election integrity by challenging or by questioning the outcome of 993 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: the election through the courts, not talking about the riot. 994 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking about through the courts. When what the Democrats 995 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: did was they realized they couldn't win this thing through 996 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: the actual process, so they tried to create some separate, 997 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, torpedo the Trump presidency process by running with 998 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: this Russia collusion lie and using the deep state and 999 00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: the secretiveness of the fives of courts to get all 1000 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: this stuff up and running, and then to filter through 1001 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the media, to use the media as a megaphone to 1002 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: give credibility to the lie. That's what they did. Now 1003 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 1: you have really extreme stuff being said here by a 1004 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: whole lot of people on the left, and we had 1005 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: Kirsten Gillibrand saying that we should have a vote of censure. 1006 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: But Iona Pressley, member of the so called squad, Congresswoman 1007 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Iona Pressley, she wants people who were supporting Trump or 1008 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 1: who were questioning the election, she wants them gone play four. 1009 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: So the first step is impeach and remove, which is 1010 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: also about ensuring that he cannot be so that he 1011 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: is barred from running from public office again. The second 1012 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: is to expel, to expel those members who have aided 1013 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 1: and embedded and been complicit and the cruelty, the corruption, 1014 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,919 Speaker 1: and the criminality of this administration, who perpetuated the big 1015 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 1: lie complicit in the administration. They must be must be expelled, expelled, 1016 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 1: you see, for their perpetuation. The big lie Democrats lied 1017 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 1: about the President's Russia collusion ties for four years and 1018 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: they still do. Okay, So I really don't want to 1019 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: be lectured by them about that. The only thing that 1020 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 1: they are the only thing that needs condemnation here in 1021 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: a clear and full throated sense, that is of real 1022 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: concern is the Capitol Hill riot, the stuff about the 1023 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: election and people that Ted Cruz and others who wanted 1024 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: the presentation of evidence. If a huge part of the country, 1025 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: and it's not such a crazy thing to think that 1026 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the country would have a problem with this. 1027 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: We went to bed thinking Donald Trump won the election. 1028 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: The next morning we wake up and it's, oh, actually, 1029 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 1: because of changes in voting procedure, Joe Biden won. That's 1030 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: basically what happened. I think it's understandable that a lot 1031 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: of people think, oh, that doesn't feel right, and it's 1032 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: the it's the end consequence of all the changes and 1033 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: all the Democrat games they play, you know, with all 1034 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: the early voting and earlier and earlier and mail in 1035 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 1: and all these things that they do. You know, why 1036 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,439 Speaker 1: not just have an election that lasts for a year. 1037 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: The whole year. You can vote any time in the 1038 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 1: whole year. We'll know. Because they're supposed to be a 1039 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: defined point in time when people come, when the American 1040 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: people come to a decision. That's the way it's supposed 1041 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: to happen. With some you know, some special exceptions for 1042 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: people overseas in the military, or people that have some 1043 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: understandable and clear need to vote to vote absentee. You 1044 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: know I voted absentee in two thousand and eight. I 1045 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 1: was in Iraq, so it was going to be really 1046 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: hard for me to get to a polling center because 1047 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: I was in Baghdad. You know that it wasn't going 1048 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: to be an easy thing to do. So and we 1049 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: get to the judgment involved of some of these individuals, 1050 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: the judgment that some of these individuals have. H Iona Pressley, 1051 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: who was the one who said, but they must expel 1052 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: those in the GOP who are complicit in the criminality 1053 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: of the administration. He or she is saying that, Well, 1054 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: I'll just let her say at play five. These foss 1055 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just it's criminal behavior. Don I don't 1056 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: know what else to call it. They have been complicit 1057 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 1: from the very beginning, and their willful criminality to carry 1058 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: the water for Donald Trump and these science denials which 1059 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: allowed this pandemic to rage out of control, and then 1060 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 1: by refusing to wear masks. This is criminal behavior. That's 1061 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: chemical warfare, so far as I'm concerned, and again, this 1062 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: is exactly why we should be moving. And I was 1063 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: very proud to be an original postponsor Representative Bush's resolution 1064 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: calling for the expulsion of these members they are unfit 1065 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 1: to serve. You know, don When they took us to 1066 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the quote unquote safe room and I walked in and 1067 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: saw that there was this contingent of anti maskers in 1068 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 1: the room gathered, I immediately exited. So imagine in that 1069 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: moment the choice that I was making. And we were 1070 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: told as we left that space, she'll be on your 1071 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: own in an evacuation, and I said, I'll take my chances. 1072 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Let's understand that she thinks that this is rational or 1073 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: reasonable what she's saying most places all across the country. 1074 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: And now you can go into a restaurant, sit down 1075 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: just like you'd be indoors here at the Capitol Building 1076 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 1: and people don't have masks on. Has Aana Pressley flown 1077 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: on a plane or is she driving from Connecticut to 1078 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: DC every time she goes back to your disagree? Is 1079 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 1: she flown on a plane. I'd be willing to bet 1080 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: she's flown on a plane. Does she realize that when 1081 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: she's on that plane that there are lots of people 1082 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: who are unmasked for long periods of time as they 1083 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: drank and eat and whatever, but it was an imminent 1084 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 1: threat to life and limb to be in a room 1085 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: with people who are who are temporarily unmasked or not, 1086 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: weren't wearing masks, refused to wear masks inside the capitol, 1087 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 1: she says, it's a form of chemical warfare. That's right, 1088 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: You breathing is chemical warfare. Now, this is this is 1089 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,439 Speaker 1: who we're supposed to listen to about what is fair 1090 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: minded in politics, and a woman who is part of 1091 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: the legislative process, it's this is what we're going to 1092 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: be dealing with from democrats. Did anyone in the room 1093 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 1: even have COVID? Do they know? Now? They have no idea? 1094 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: So statistically speaking, the overwhelming likelihood is that no one 1095 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: in that room had COVID and that nobody was exposed, 1096 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: particularly in any kind of close way. So why, oh no, 1097 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Because COVID is just a COVID is really, first and 1098 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: foremost for politicians, a bat with which you bludgeon the 1099 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: opposition idea, whatever it may be, find a way to 1100 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 1: make it about how their COVID deniers or they don't. 1101 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 1: That's the whole point of It's it's not actually a 1102 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: virus that has spread all over the world that we 1103 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: should all be thinking about realistic and honest solutions to 1104 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: deal with in a reasonable fashion. It's how can I 1105 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: use this as a political weapon against the other side. 1106 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: That seems to be the primary, the primary purpose that 1107 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: I see from at least the Democrats about what they're 1108 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: trying to do, what they're trying to accomplish when they 1109 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: talk about COVID. Although, as I said, I believe the 1110 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Biden administration coming in now is going to you either 1111 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 1: get on board or you don't want COVID to stop. 1112 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: That's going to be the demagoguery that you see. Just 1113 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: just wait for it. You're in the Freedom Hud. This 1114 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know what we 1115 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 1: definitely shouldn't do at this point in time. Take a 1116 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of advice about what the GOP should do and 1117 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: what the next steps are from people who hate the 1118 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: GOP and who make money trying to destroy it. Do 1119 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: not take advice from your enemies. It's a very straightforward, 1120 01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: maxim It's a very important way to approach life. Do 1121 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: not take advice from people that want to see you lose, 1122 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: and there are so many of them out there right now. 1123 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Here's Steve Schmidt. Steve Schmidt runs Lincoln Project. Yeah, he 1124 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: goes on TV and he uses the stars to use 1125 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: the big words occasionally, so he sounds like not the 1126 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: dumbest person on TV, but I think he might be 1127 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: play nine. We have a fascistic enterprise alive and well 1128 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: in America. We have an autocratic movement that's supported by 1129 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 1: forty two And before we talk about reconciliation, we must 1130 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: talk about accountability, and we must talk about justice, and 1131 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: we must talk about the punishment for the violence done 1132 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: to the government of the United States. There are only 1133 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: two ways to win a fight. You can bring your 1134 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: opponent to submission, or your opponent can bring you to exhaustion. 1135 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: When you think about losing a fight through exhaustion, you 1136 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 1: think think about the United States in Iraq or Afghanistan 1137 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: or in Vietnam. When you think about submission, you think 1138 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: about what happened to the South in the Civil War. 1139 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: You think about Germany and Japan. And so our offer 1140 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,439 Speaker 1: on the table for this edition as is a fight 1141 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,879 Speaker 1: where we will bring you to submission. This must be crushed, 1142 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 1: This must be annihilated. This illiberalism, this undemocratic moment must 1143 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: be met. Head on. I mean, this guy raises money 1144 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: to destroy Republicans and help Democrats. But now he's going 1145 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 1: to tell the Republican Party how it needs to reform. 1146 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: That seems like a bad That seems like a bad 1147 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 1: pathway to go down. He's not the only one, dude, 1148 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 1: do we know is Joe Scarborough? Is he? Is he 1149 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 1: a Republican or you know, I'm sure he thinks that 1150 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,640 Speaker 1: he should be president, but is he a Republican or 1151 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: what what? I don't know what He probably probably an independent. Now, 1152 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: when you're a turncote Republican in the media and you 1153 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 1: want to maintain whatever lucrative perch you have, what you 1154 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: do as you say you're an independent. That guy he 1155 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 1: used to work for Bush dowd Over at ABC News, 1156 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: who's he's one of the worst political analysts on just 1157 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 1: says dumb things all the time and as a jerk. 1158 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,560 Speaker 1: On top of that, he's he's an independent. I think Scarborough, 1159 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what he says he is, but he 1160 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: could very easily be in that mold here he is. Remember, 1161 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: this is somebody who used to have a show about 1162 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 1: how much of a Republican he was on TV and 1163 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 1: now He's like, the GOP needs to just keep losing 1164 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 1: and losing and losing and losing. Play eight. Yes, people 1165 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: have to tell the truth. We have to get justice. 1166 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 1: But also Trump's Republican Party has to lose in two years, 1167 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: has to lose in four years, has to keep losing 1168 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:49,480 Speaker 1: until those with autocratic tendencies are driven from American politics 1169 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 1: for good. Gotta get him out of politics, the autocratic 1170 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: tendencies in the Republican Party. That's what he's saying. Does 1171 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough ever talk about the autocratic tendencies and the 1172 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 1: Democrat Party or no? Where do you think there's a 1173 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: greater risk of autocracy? Where do you think there's a 1174 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: greater risk of authoritarianism? The party that now has the 1175 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: entirety of the media and the social media giants doing 1176 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: their bidding, that has corporate America in their back pocket, 1177 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 1: do you think that they're more of a risk to 1178 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: your freedoms or liberty? Were the party that right now 1179 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 1: was going through some very tough times because unfortunately we 1180 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: were in charge when COVID hit. I think if there 1181 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,879 Speaker 1: was no COVID nineteen, if we hadn't gone through the pandemic, 1182 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump would have won reelection pretty pretty handily. Unfortunately, 1183 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: that's not that's not the cards we were dealt. Now 1184 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 1: we have a Republican Party that's feelings as weak as 1185 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: it has. As I said, this is the worst position 1186 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: the Republican Party has been in since two thousand and nine, 1187 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: so we could say an over a decade at this point. 1188 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: This is the worst place it's been in in terms 1189 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 1: of power. I'm not sure that this is the worst 1190 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 1: place it's been in in terms of long term prospects, 1191 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: because we have had there were some gains among key 1192 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: groups in the last election. That shows that with the 1193 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 1: right kind of conservative, populous message we can we can 1194 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: have gains. This was a very it was a fluke 1195 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 1: of a year in politics. In a lot of ways. 1196 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 1: It was very challenging. So I'm not one to sit 1197 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: here and despair. I'm just telling you we we got 1198 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 1: to get ready for what's coming. Because the Democrats they 1199 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 1: only had, they only had four years of Trump, but 1200 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 1: they completely lost their minds and now their plan is 1201 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 1: to punish all, punish everybody that was a part of 1202 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 1: it in whatever way they can, and to really erase 1203 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: Trumpism from the the political map in its entirety. And 1204 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna even I was gonna play 1205 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: a SoundBite from from Cindy McCain and I didn't. Why 1206 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 1: And I look, I got nothing against Cindy McCain, And 1207 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: why why is she a political voice that we hear from? Exactly? 1208 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get that, but I'll just leave it. 1209 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: Because the Romney McCain wing of the GOP, they really 1210 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: think that they're going to come back into power, and 1211 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. And if it does happen, 1212 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: it just means that we keep losing elections and Democrats 1213 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: get their way. But but well we'll be pat on 1214 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: the head by the New York Times. So that's nice. 1215 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 1: You know, the GOP is no longer a bunch of ruffians. 1216 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: That'll be our reward. Thanks for listening to the bus 1217 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 1: seton Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the 1218 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Only 1219 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,600 Speaker 1: once during the nearly two decades long war in Afghanistan 1220 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 1: has an active duty combat member been pulled from the 1221 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 1: battlefront due to debts of two family members. In war. 1222 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 1: US Marine bo Wise is that man after his brothers 1223 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: won a Navy seal. The other an Army Green Beret sniper, 1224 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 1: were killed in combat. Wise was removed from the war theater, 1225 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 1: earning the designation sole Survivor. He's got a book in 1226 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 1: book coming out, Three Wise Men, in which he tells 1227 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: this story. But we have Marine bow Wise with us now. 1228 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,639 Speaker 1: Both thank you for for your service in your time. Hey, 1229 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 1: thank you for your service, and thanks for having me 1230 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: on buck. So tell me this what what? What do 1231 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: you want people to take a take away from your story? 1232 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: And I suppose for us to really understand that you 1233 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 1: got to tell us how how did all this come about? 1234 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 1: You quite a quite a military family. Yeah, you know, 1235 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: there was a lot to say. Um uh when we 1236 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 1: first got started, and Tom Seleo, my co author, approached 1237 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: me and he really, you know, kind of told me 1238 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 1: his vision and what he wanted to do, and I 1239 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 1: told him the things that I had wanted to say, 1240 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: and everything just kind of syncd up as far as 1241 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,200 Speaker 1: preserving Jeremy and Ben's legacy. But um it became something 1242 01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 1: much deeper, and um I learned to be honest myself, 1243 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 1: be human, and expose a few chinks in my own 1244 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,680 Speaker 1: armor and hopefully an effort that we can we can 1245 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: help other veterans, you know, you know that are struggling 1246 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: coming off the battlefield as well. So you know, it 1247 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: all started for me. I found journal. Journalism to our 1248 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 1: journal excuse me, to be kind of a healthy coping 1249 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 1: mechanism because I just, quite frankly me personally, my personality type. 1250 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 1: I can put ink to paper and let my heart 1251 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 1: out a little bit easier than I can speaking. So 1252 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,160 Speaker 1: having such a patriotic and professional co author with Tom 1253 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Salo to help, you know, help me tell that story 1254 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: was just detrimental. But Boat tell us some of that story. 1255 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,679 Speaker 1: How did you decide to go into the Marine Corps? 1256 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Your brother was a Marine sniper, Your other brother was 1257 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: a was a member of the United States Navy Seals. 1258 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Tell us about this well, then was the first to enlist, 1259 01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: and he enlisted in two thousand, prior to September. He 1260 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: just it was something that he talked about since high 1261 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: school and you know, really ever since you know, we 1262 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 1: were kids. My mom, you know, had a legacy of 1263 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, marine heritage, her uncle, her mother's brother being 1264 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: a raider in the Pacific Campaign and her great uncle 1265 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,879 Speaker 1: being in u in Argonne Forest, if I'm not mistaken, 1266 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 1: and you know, so having that legacy and you know, 1267 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 1: it just kind of sparked the fuel and then just 1268 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: wanted to serve. So he enlisted Army Infantry. And then 1269 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 1: eventually years later after his first deployment, when Green Beret 1270 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,559 Speaker 1: Jeremy had talked about steel since high school and college, 1271 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: and then eventually when he was twenty seven to cut 1272 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 1: off age for BUDS. Being twenty eight, you know, it 1273 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 1: was you know, time to time to do it or 1274 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, stop. So he quit medical school and went 1275 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 1: to BUDS. And after just listening to them, I just 1276 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: got inspired. And I was in college and thought, you know, 1277 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I really you know, I was just living vicariously through 1278 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 1: a lot of stories they were telling me, and I 1279 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 1: was like, I've got to make a path for my 1280 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 1: own and do something similar. And I eventually in two 1281 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 1: thousand and eight and listed in the Marine Corps and 1282 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 1: win infantry. And you you did get deployed overseas. Tell us, 1283 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,600 Speaker 1: tell us about that experience. I deployed to helm And 1284 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:22,879 Speaker 1: Province twice, southern Afghanistan and the heart of Poshtun country. 1285 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: The first deployment was the invasion of Marja. For me, personally, 1286 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't nearly as kinetic as as what I was hoping, 1287 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 1: and whatever patrol I was on, the fight usually just 1288 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 1: seemed to be ahead or behind, or left or right, 1289 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: and you know, it just sometimes pans out that way. 1290 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: My second deployment was in Garmishire, very close to the 1291 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Studn Packy border, and you know, and so my combat 1292 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 1: experiences is rather minimal, especially in comparison to Jeremy's and Bens. 1293 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: It was just the culture and the climate, you know, 1294 01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 1: kind of adapting to that. Yeah, yeah, tell me tell 1295 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 1: me about your your brothers. I mean, part of this book, 1296 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 1: and we're speaking of Bo Wise, author of Three Wise Men, 1297 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: and this is described as as in essence A there's 1298 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 1: parallels to the story we all know from the very 1299 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: well known World War Two movies Saving Private Ryan. Your 1300 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 1: brothers both both gave their lives for their countries in combat. 1301 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: Tell us tell us about your brothers. Uh so they 1302 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 1: they both did uh to Iraq and Afghanistan. Uh four 1303 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 1: deployments each. And that's that's just Iraq and Afghanistan. There 1304 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: were other deployments. And I mean we could have gone 1305 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 1: on well beyond three hundred pages. Um if we had 1306 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 1: included everything as far as the other countries. But um, 1307 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jeremy was he left the seal teams in 1308 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 1: August of oh nine and he was very swiftly picked 1309 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,560 Speaker 1: up by the Central Intelligence Agency through the Contract Z 1310 01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 1: and he was one of the GRS skies overseas at 1311 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 1: FOB Chapman and becaused province Afghanistan, And unfortunately he was 1312 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,719 Speaker 1: one of the the seven CIA officials that were killed 1313 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 1: by the suicide bomber in December thirty to two thousand 1314 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 1: and nine. I was in Helman Province at the time. 1315 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,680 Speaker 1: I flew home and linked up with Ben and you know, 1316 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 1: we h yeah, and you know, buried him and swiftly 1317 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,360 Speaker 1: went back to Afghanistan. And after that deployment we came 1318 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,000 Speaker 1: home and just coincidentally we ended up back in Afghanistan 1319 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 1: at the same time again in twenty eleven, and I 1320 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 1: came home later that year and Ben's battalion got extended 1321 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 1: and he was breaching a cave in a firefight in 1322 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 1: balk Province and a cave network and he fought for 1323 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,759 Speaker 1: six days. After breaching a cave, he was shot multiple 1324 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 1: times in the chest, legs and growing and eventually succumbed 1325 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 1: to his wounds on January fifteenth. Today is the ninth 1326 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,799 Speaker 1: anniversary of Ben's passing. I'm very sorry for your loss, 1327 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,679 Speaker 1: and I think it's important for people to hear stories 1328 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 1: of this kind of harrow was a man's sacrifice, And 1329 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 1: those two things often do come together when we're talking 1330 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,600 Speaker 1: about military service and combat zones, and we still have 1331 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,719 Speaker 1: soldiers deployed overseas, we still have ongoing conflict zones. People 1332 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 1: need to know that there's a cost that's being cost 1333 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,720 Speaker 1: that's being paid, and burdens that are being carried by 1334 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:37,679 Speaker 1: people like the Wise family. And to that end, please 1335 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,920 Speaker 1: tell me a bit more about Beau, about what it 1336 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,599 Speaker 1: was like when you found this out and you got 1337 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 1: word from the Now you you've lost two brothers in 1338 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: combat in these wars abroad. What was the what was 1339 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 1: the initial sense you had when they were telling you, 1340 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,519 Speaker 1: what was it that you were going to be? You? 1341 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 1: Did they give you the choice of being pulled out 1342 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 1: of theater? You know, I didn't know for a long 1343 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 1: time we had. I had just returned from Garmister District 1344 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 1: with First Battalion, third Marines. I was with Weapons Company 1345 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 1: KAT two and which is a second Combined Anti Armor Team. 1346 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 1: We just got back and I had married my beautiful 1347 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 1: wife Amber right before the deployment, so we were just 1348 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: getting settled, settled into Kanyobe, Hawaii, and the phone call 1349 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,160 Speaker 1: came in the night, the first one from my mom 1350 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 1: that Ben had been shot, and that is all that 1351 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: we knew. It did not from what we understood, it 1352 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 1: wasn't life threatening because as you know very well, Book, 1353 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, information comes in from you know, guys that 1354 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 1: are sometimes still in the fight when the information comes back, 1355 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 1: so it's just incomplete. So we got everything in increments. 1356 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 1: So as the words started coming back to us, we 1357 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 1: realized that it was a bit more severe than we 1358 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 1: initially fought thought, so we made adjustments to get to Germany. 1359 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,080 Speaker 1: When we realized that Ben was going to be transported 1360 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: to Landstool and Tracy, his wife, and I flew over 1361 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 1: there and we got to be with him when he 1362 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 1: when he when he passed, and then I sent the 1363 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 1: whole family home and stayed behind as a guardian angel 1364 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 1: for for Ben when he did pass. And it wasn't 1365 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 1: until I got back to Dover that the commandant of 1366 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps at the time, General Amos was there, 1367 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 1: and he arrived and he told my mother and father, 1368 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's not going anywhere for a for a 1369 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 1: long long time. And it came as a gut check. 1370 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 1: And I think at the time I was pretty upset 1371 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 1: about it, um just fearing not just losing after having 1372 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 1: lost my blood brothers. I I think I was most 1373 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:53,720 Speaker 1: concerned about being separated from my brotherhood, my Marines. But 1374 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 1: I was allowed to stay in service for several years, 1375 01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,760 Speaker 1: and I left active duty, you know, four and a 1376 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,640 Speaker 1: half years later in twenty sixteen, and dropped to the 1377 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: reserves and eventually just got out completely from r R 1378 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 1: and everything else in March of last year. Actually it's 1379 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 1: about ten months ago. Bo, do you feel like the 1380 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 1: we're speaking to Bo Wise, author of Three Wise Men, 1381 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 1: which is just out this week and tells a story 1382 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:27,240 Speaker 1: of his service and his brothers service and multiple combat tours. 1383 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 1: In theories of warfare, it feels like the fighting that's 1384 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,639 Speaker 1: going on overseas, or even just the continued downrange presence 1385 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 1: that we have has really fallen out of most of 1386 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,040 Speaker 1: the public's consciousness. We talk about troop withdrawal. Maybe in 1387 01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,679 Speaker 1: Afghanistan we're down to lower numbers. How do you feel 1388 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 1: about the situation right now, because there's less you know, 1389 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 1: even i'd say four or five years ago, there was 1390 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,479 Speaker 1: a still a real focus on support the troops. Men 1391 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: also understand what they're caring and what their sacrifices are 1392 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: as these wars go on and on and on. How 1393 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,120 Speaker 1: do you feel about the the general American public's view 1394 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 1: of all that right now? Well, I wouldn't like you said, Buck, 1395 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 1: I would encourage people to stay focused, especially with all 1396 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, the political climate just being where it is. 1397 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,880 Speaker 1: That's that's its own beast, you know, and I want 1398 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 1: to get into but um, you know, just staying focused 1399 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,640 Speaker 1: and staying supportive of our our men and women are 1400 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 1: service members overseas, like you know, and you know, just 1401 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 1: stay aware and you know, not just on you know, 1402 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 1: the national front, but you know local and I being 1403 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,560 Speaker 1: out and not having been in the Eastern hemisphere and 1404 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 1: just about a decade now, Um, you know, when I 1405 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: come across these questions, I typically ask a Green Beret first, 1406 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 1: just because they seem to be so calms, jack of 1407 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,360 Speaker 1: all trades and have them. I think a very broad 1408 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: scope is as far as these type of things. But yeah, 1409 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, and we just need to stay focused 1410 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 1: and supportive of of our service members given me if 1411 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 1: I could ask you, Bo, and we thank you again 1412 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 1: for your service and also the sacrifices and service that 1413 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 1: your your whole family has made. What would you say 1414 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,600 Speaker 1: to you if if if I don't know if you 1415 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,200 Speaker 1: have children, Bo, but if you have a son and 1416 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,880 Speaker 1: your son was getting to that age where he could 1417 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 1: think about about serving and going down range and possibly 1418 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 1: being in harm's way, what would you say to him? 1419 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I would probably do something very similar 1420 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 1: to what my dad and my oldest brother. Um, they're 1421 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 1: really both brothers. I mean everyone I think I was discouraged, 1422 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:46,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I wouldn't say discourage them, but you know, 1423 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 1: make sure it's something that you really really want to 1424 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,440 Speaker 1: do before you do it, and just you know, go deliberately. 1425 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: If if you're going to do it, you know, make 1426 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: sure that you you find the job that's right for you. 1427 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's gosh, I mean two hundred plus jobs 1428 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,559 Speaker 1: I think in the arm and Navy each and you know, 1429 01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: and I think that was the concern. I do have 1430 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 1: a son and daughter and you know they're three and two. 1431 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 1: So God Willing. I never have to have that conversation 1432 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,760 Speaker 1: with either of them, but I would probably take a 1433 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,880 Speaker 1: similar approach and say, you know, make sure this is 1434 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 1: really what you want to do, and if it is, 1435 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'll support you wholeheartedly in defending our constitution, 1436 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 1: our rights, and American people. The book is three wise men, 1437 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,599 Speaker 1: Bo Wise Bo. Thank you for all you and your 1438 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,720 Speaker 1: family have done for this country and for joining us 1439 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 1: in best of luck with the book. Hey, thank you, Buck. 1440 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 1: You're a patriot and I really appreciate it. Thanks for 1441 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:44,640 Speaker 1: having me on. You're in the Freedom This is the 1442 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Buck Sex and Show podcast. We need anti poverty programs 1443 01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 1: and we need a fact based government that puts results 1444 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,680 Speaker 1: over politics. Yeah. The first part is corda what I've 1445 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 1: stood for since I started in public service. We need 1446 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: to make New York City the COVID comeback city, but 1447 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 1: also the anti poverty city. As mayor, we will launch 1448 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:14,800 Speaker 1: the largest basic income program in the history of the country. 1449 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,320 Speaker 1: We will lift hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers out 1450 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 1: of extreme poverty, putting cash relief directly into the hands 1451 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 1: of the families who desperately need help right now. This 1452 01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,679 Speaker 1: is the type of move that our city leadership must 1453 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 1: make in this pandemic. Cash relief is literally the difference 1454 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 1: between a family eating and a family going hungry. It's 1455 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,479 Speaker 1: the difference between being homeless and having a roof over 1456 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,840 Speaker 1: your head. Andrew Yang, former Democrat presidential candidate, is going 1457 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 1: to be running for mayor in New York City, America's 1458 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:51,759 Speaker 1: largest city, place where I originate this show from. And 1459 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: let's just say that this will be this will be interesting. 1460 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you Andrew Yang from all I've interviewed Andrew 1461 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 1: Yang before, so he will actually speak to people from 1462 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,760 Speaker 1: the other other political other political aisle or other aisle 1463 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 1: of the you know what I'm saying, the other side 1464 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 1: of the politics stuff. Uh, he is. He's a likable guy. 1465 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 1: He's not a nasty, you know, ill tempered, bad natured guy, 1466 01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 1: which these days in politics, I find that to be 1467 01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,360 Speaker 1: kind of a rarity among Democrats. I do think that 1468 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: generally Republicans are a little bit more just. I'm talking 1469 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 1: about elected Republicans are nicer. I think a lot of 1470 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 1: Democrats are very have very you know, hair trigger sensitivities, 1471 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 1: and are are very quick to be you know, snippy 1472 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,360 Speaker 1: with people about about minor things. That's just my impression, 1473 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 1: but I'm usually right. But Andrew yang Is is a 1474 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 1: pretty nice guy. But that doesn't mean that what he's 1475 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,840 Speaker 1: gonna do for New York City if he becomes mayor, 1476 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,480 Speaker 1: and he will clearly be an improvement over build the Blasio. 1477 01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 1: But I think anybody, I mean, producer Mark, I mean this, you, 1478 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,559 Speaker 1: with zero government experience and not even yet being thirty 1479 01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 1: years of age, you would do a far better job 1480 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,439 Speaker 1: running New York City tomorrow than build a Blasio. Would 1481 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 1: I think there's a lamp in my house that would 1482 01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,680 Speaker 1: do a better job than build a Blasio. But like 1483 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,519 Speaker 1: it's not even close. I mean, you should if it 1484 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,559 Speaker 1: were build a Blasio versus Producer Mark, Producer Mark should 1485 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 1: get ninety nine percent of the vote. We'll give one 1486 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: percent of people that you know just are crazy. Um, 1487 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 1: But so so the Blasio is awful. I think yang 1488 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 1: would be better. But what I think so interesting is 1489 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,599 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be this move now and he's gonna 1490 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,400 Speaker 1: try to apply universal basic income to New York City 1491 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:45,280 Speaker 1: and he's going to uh if he becomes the mayor, 1492 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: which this is a this is a year out, but 1493 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,960 Speaker 1: he would then start giving checks to people. But what's 1494 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 1: fascinating this New York City already has a very large 1495 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,559 Speaker 1: welfare state and a lot of welfare programs of all 1496 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 1: different kinds. There's a lot of there's public housing and 1497 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,599 Speaker 1: public healthcare, and there's a lot of stuff, and he 1498 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 1: wants to expand on that. I think what we'd see 1499 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 1: is that it wouldn't really work as an anti poverty 1500 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 1: program the way it's set up. And so the experiment 1501 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,640 Speaker 1: of New York City being in some ways on the 1502 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,680 Speaker 1: cutting edge of progressive policy, well, especially if I'm not here, 1503 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,240 Speaker 1: is they don't have to worry about it. It'll be 1504 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: interesting because I think I think it would fail. I 1505 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,040 Speaker 1: don't think it'll work. And this is a city that 1506 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,680 Speaker 1: has been put through so much that you'll if there 1507 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 1: were good ideas and it boomed back, we would be 1508 01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:37,160 Speaker 1: able to tell. But this is a circumstance where I 1509 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 1: believe that if Andrew Yang got his way and you 1510 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,599 Speaker 1: would have this, you're just gonna have more and more 1511 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,240 Speaker 1: flight from New York City, because who's going to pay 1512 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,559 Speaker 1: for all this stuff? You know, for a lot of people, 1513 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,840 Speaker 1: you have to think of time is money or money 1514 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: is time, And so when they're taking more and more 1515 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 1: of your money. They're actually taking more and more hours 1516 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 1: of your life. And you can be in a place 1517 01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,719 Speaker 1: where they don't do that because they have lower taxes, 1518 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,960 Speaker 1: or you could be here. What's the advantage. Now, I've 1519 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,120 Speaker 1: mentioned before the Democrat plan is to then deal with 1520 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,879 Speaker 1: this from a top down level by using the federal 1521 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 1: purse to backstop blue cities that are hemorrhaging residents. But 1522 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 1: this is the ideas they're putting forward. There's a part 1523 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,840 Speaker 1: of me that wants to see Yang do his thing 1524 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,280 Speaker 1: in New York because one, he's better than Bill the Blasio, 1525 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 1: because Bill the Blazer it's the worst. But two, you'll 1526 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: see that this stuff doesn't actually the same way. We're 1527 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,800 Speaker 1: going to figure out the hardware that a fifteen dollars 1528 01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,679 Speaker 1: minimum wage doesn't mean that everyone all of a sudden 1529 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,439 Speaker 1: is out of poverty who works a job. You'll see 1530 01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't work that way. But we have to see 1531 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,120 Speaker 1: it first. We'll see that the universal basic income doesn't 1532 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 1: end poverty somehow or even even make a dent in it. 1533 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,920 Speaker 1: But we got to see, I suppose in the blue 1534 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:53,800 Speaker 1: enclaves in the Democrat strongholds. Thanks for listening to the 1535 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 1: buses and show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, 1536 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,400 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app four where you get your podcasts. 1537 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 1: The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real. It's 1538 01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:27,559 Speaker 1: time for roll call, Yeah, roll call. We're going off 1539 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:32,240 Speaker 1: to the weekend. Everybody. It's gonna be a great weekend 1540 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 1: for everybody, right producer Mark. Of course, we're always working 1541 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,679 Speaker 1: for the weekend. Indeed, everyone, it's gonna be. It's gonna 1542 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 1: be awesome. Wenna, a great time this weekend. Everyone forget 1543 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 1: about all the all the stuff, the tense and gray 1544 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,599 Speaker 1: and sad and bad. Right now in America, we're gonna 1545 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,000 Speaker 1: have a good we all of us individually, with our 1546 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 1: families and loved ones. We're all gonna have a good weekend. 1547 01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 1: Those are your orders. Start it. Eat something yummy, watch 1548 01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,800 Speaker 1: something entertaining, Read something in you know, intrigue, you're inspiring 1549 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:05,840 Speaker 1: or whatever, or the producer Mark, check out the the 1550 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,679 Speaker 1: hockey points or score. I don't want to talk about 1551 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 1: hockey right now. What happened? The Rangers didn't I don't 1552 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,080 Speaker 1: think they played last night. I'm just gonna forget the 1553 01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 1: game happen. This was your this was your Rangers against 1554 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 1: the the Islanders. Yeah, well it was I believe game 1555 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,320 Speaker 1: last night. Yeah. Now do you want to tell us 1556 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,960 Speaker 1: the difference between Islanders at Rangers face? Well, right now, 1557 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,639 Speaker 1: Islander fans are happy and Ranger fans very unhappy. Here 1558 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,880 Speaker 1: there we go. All right, Well, you know is there 1559 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,719 Speaker 1: any other there other games this weekend? Well, they're playing 1560 01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 1: the Elders again tomorrow, and there's football this weekend. So 1561 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,880 Speaker 1: that's that's fun. Okay, that's football. Maybe maybe I'll check 1562 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,679 Speaker 1: check some of that playoffs. Deep. I'm deep into Pull Dark, 1563 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,880 Speaker 1: which I'm very much enjoying, but I'm looking for other 1564 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:58,280 Speaker 1: shows I may try. Um oh gosh, I wrote down 1565 01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:59,680 Speaker 1: I've got to show that I want to watch, but 1566 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,000 Speaker 1: I no, I can't even know what it was. I 1567 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 1: can't get excited about this Halt and catch Fire. I 1568 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,639 Speaker 1: keep trying to watch it. It looks like it's pretty 1569 01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,240 Speaker 1: well done, but it's about a bunch of like nerds 1570 01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 1: making computers or something. I don't know. I don't really care. 1571 01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,720 Speaker 1: I gotta find I asked people. I said it's a 1572 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: good Everyone says it's good, but I'm I'm not sold. Oh, 1573 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna make computers that are faster than the other 1574 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:23,240 Speaker 1: person's computers. I don't know, and it doesn't really you know, 1575 01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't really blow my mind. That's all I'm saying. 1576 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,719 Speaker 1: If you got any ideas for great shows or anything, 1577 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,559 Speaker 1: that's a good thing to write into roll call. I remember, 1578 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 1: go to bucksx and dot com, Facebook, dot com, slashbuck sex, 1579 01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,719 Speaker 1: then check it all out. All right, let's go, Calvin Buck. 1580 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm listening to you tonight. I understand your thoughts on 1581 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 1: how to get back in power. I'd like to ask 1582 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 1: you a question. In the past, when we did not 1583 01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: approve of the job our elected officials were doing, our 1584 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,040 Speaker 1: only way to change policy was to vote them out. 1585 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,880 Speaker 1: That option has now been taken away from us. We 1586 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:55,360 Speaker 1: can't go to the judiciary for recompense. Your idea of 1587 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,880 Speaker 1: winning elections locally is nice. However, I don't think the 1588 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,400 Speaker 1: Democratic Party will take their newfound illegitimate wins in the 1589 01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 1: national election and use it locally. My fear is that 1590 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 1: it may take a revolution to set things straight, would 1591 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 1: require the military to perform a coup. I'm not advocating 1592 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: for that. However, we truly have fascists that have taken 1593 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,400 Speaker 1: over our government. What other way do you see of 1594 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,680 Speaker 1: resolving itself peacefully. Um, Calvin, it's not as bad as 1595 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,880 Speaker 1: it seems right now. And I know that's trite. I 1596 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,599 Speaker 1: know people are gonna say ah, and I can hear 1597 01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:30,400 Speaker 1: them throwing the cold French fries that have fallen at 1598 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,679 Speaker 1: the bottom of their cars they're driving listening to the show. 1599 01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,799 Speaker 1: I know they're throwing it at the radio screen or whatever. 1600 01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:40,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not as bad as it seems. We're well, 1601 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,400 Speaker 1: we'll get through this and we're gonna we're gonna be 1602 01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,800 Speaker 1: all right. You know, it's fine. The country is see 1603 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 1: because this is what this is what the good news 1604 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:52,160 Speaker 1: that I have for you. The Democrats are democrats, and 1605 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,960 Speaker 1: it's not going to change. They can't help but do 1606 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 1: Democrat things, and they're gonna do things that enough people 1607 01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:03,960 Speaker 1: will see and they'll say, oh gosh, hold on a second. 1608 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 1: They've got really really bad ideas, right, They've got really 1609 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:14,360 Speaker 1: bad ideas that they're implementing. So that's just one thing 1610 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,840 Speaker 1: I'd want to put out there right there. The Democrats 1611 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,280 Speaker 1: right now, they haven't yet had their way, so it's 1612 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,760 Speaker 1: hard to lock in on how they're failing because they're 1613 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,679 Speaker 1: not yet doing stuff. And I'm talking about the Biden Harris. 1614 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of Democrats stuff happening, but 1615 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean the Biden Harris administration. They have not yet 1616 01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:35,639 Speaker 1: taken power. Once they do and we're all subjected to 1617 01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,639 Speaker 1: the wokeness and the left wing insanity and all that stuff, 1618 01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, be say, okay, guys, remember 1619 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,519 Speaker 1: how they said it's gonna be so much better when 1620 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:45,479 Speaker 1: Trump was gone, and this, that and the other reason 1621 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,400 Speaker 1: it's not working out that way, is it? And that 1622 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 1: will give us our opportunity, that will give us our 1623 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:58,680 Speaker 1: chance to start to mount a political response. But I 1624 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 1: understand there's also a let to here. Let's let's all 1625 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,120 Speaker 1: be very This is the this is the freedom hunt. 1626 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,679 Speaker 1: This is a place for we're all. We're all friends 1627 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:07,439 Speaker 1: and family in this. If you're listening to this, even 1628 01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,360 Speaker 1: if you're a crazy lib it listens in just so 1629 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,920 Speaker 1: you can, you know, write me angry emails or something. 1630 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,640 Speaker 1: You know what, We'll even pretend you're a part of 1631 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 1: the family too. The the Trump administration there was now 1632 01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would say, to be fair, 1633 01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,240 Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna have eight years. They only 1634 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,240 Speaker 1: had four. But there's a lot of stuff that didn't 1635 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 1: get done that we needed to get done. And so 1636 01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:36,720 Speaker 1: there's also that frustration, that sense of letdown that it 1637 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,320 Speaker 1: wasn't even like we had every you know everything, There 1638 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,599 Speaker 1: was all this stuff accomplished that people said, oh, Trump 1639 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,120 Speaker 1: accomplished the most. That Trump kept saying that, well a 1640 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,040 Speaker 1: lot was accomplished in four years if you had four 1641 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:53,519 Speaker 1: more years to solidify and to expand. But we're gonna 1642 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 1: be honest here. I mean, what tax cuts and regulations 1643 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. Okay, that's gone. Now 1644 01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 1: that's all gone, that goes away. What major legislation. I 1645 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,719 Speaker 1: mean the trade deals? Yes, absolutely, great trade deals done, 1646 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,800 Speaker 1: no new or expand their major wars. Absolutely, that's that's 1647 01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 1: very good there. I'm not saying there weren't things accomplished, 1648 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,519 Speaker 1: but there's something. Did we get the wall finished? No, 1649 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,600 Speaker 1: we did not. That's a fact. There's no arguing that. 1650 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,480 Speaker 1: It's just a fact. Did we handle the illegal immigration 1651 01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 1: problem in a way where we you know, it's been 1652 01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,320 Speaker 1: we have figured out what the pathway forward for America 1653 01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,960 Speaker 1: is without just having amnesty for you know, fifteen million 1654 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,760 Speaker 1: people or whatever the number will be. Um, No, we 1655 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 1: did not. And now Democrats are gonna go for that, 1656 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna go for amnesty, and you know, there's a 1657 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,439 Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of stuff that that didn't 1658 01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,200 Speaker 1: get done. And now we go to the other side. 1659 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,720 Speaker 1: What are they going to try to accomplish? What are 1660 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:54,559 Speaker 1: they going to try to do now that they have power? 1661 01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:56,400 Speaker 1: And I can understand that can feel a little bit 1662 01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,479 Speaker 1: overwhelming right now, But folks just talk about revolution. Everything 1663 01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 1: else is this is It's honestly, it's it's just absurd 1664 01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,439 Speaker 1: and damaging right now. Anybody that's really thinking out loud 1665 01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 1: about that in a major way, I think a lot 1666 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,680 Speaker 1: of people are venting, and they're using that kind of 1667 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:20,280 Speaker 1: talk as a as a mechanism for just letting some 1668 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:25,960 Speaker 1: of that political frustration. It's as kind of catharsis for 1669 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,120 Speaker 1: people right now. I mean, I can't believe Look, I 1670 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,640 Speaker 1: was saying in the beginning of this, I'll tell you 1671 01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,760 Speaker 1: the truth. I mean, Joe Biden is prey. I just 1672 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,280 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it that that was going to happen. And 1673 01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,479 Speaker 1: I'm talking about at the early stage of the primary. 1674 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, if Joe Biden can be preisident 1675 01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:44,600 Speaker 1: and it means any any random dude who has some 1676 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,559 Speaker 1: name recognition on the Democrat side could be president because 1677 01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:53,519 Speaker 1: you need no skills or or particular ability whatsoever. I mean, 1678 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is in so many ways the ultimate mediocrity. 1679 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,599 Speaker 1: And this guy is a president. Now, you know, I say, 1680 01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,200 Speaker 1: what your lit about Trump? The guy's dynamic, the guy's had, 1681 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, tremendous successes and some some failings in his 1682 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:10,360 Speaker 1: career beforehand. He's you know, he's a salesman. He's got 1683 01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 1: a vision, and he's got you know, there's all this, 1684 01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot about Trump brings a lot to the table. 1685 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,400 Speaker 1: Love him or hate him, he brings a lot to 1686 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:20,400 Speaker 1: the table. What does Joe Biden bringing the table? I mean, 1687 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, no joke, you know you're him. I'm just 1688 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:30,960 Speaker 1: gonna read all the speeches like this rio sometimes it 1689 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:36,040 Speaker 1: makes me seem authoritative. Now we're gonna go back to 1690 01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:42,160 Speaker 1: a time when you might fall asleep during speeches. Heck 1691 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,720 Speaker 1: I might fall asleep during speeches. I mean, that's what 1692 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,760 Speaker 1: we're heading toward now for our commander in chief. Get 1693 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,000 Speaker 1: ready for it. But as I've said to you, he's 1694 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,840 Speaker 1: just he's really just the puppet. I mean, he's the 1695 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:56,599 Speaker 1: instrument for the implementation of the left wing agenda, So 1696 01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,000 Speaker 1: that is also out there and we need to be 1697 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:06,800 Speaker 1: aware of it. Jamie Buck, Nancy Pelosi is moving forward 1698 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,840 Speaker 1: with impeachment proceedings on the president because he supposedly encouraged 1699 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,880 Speaker 1: a violent protest on the Capitol Building. I believe what 1700 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,120 Speaker 1: she's doing also encourages violent protests, and she knows it. 1701 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,559 Speaker 1: She is not going after the president. She is attempting 1702 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,240 Speaker 1: to incite violence. Is she not just as guilty of 1703 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 1: what she is accusing the president of? Jamie, I please 1704 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,439 Speaker 1: right back in and give me a little more of 1705 01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,720 Speaker 1: what specifically you're referring to, or you know what's on 1706 01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:36,000 Speaker 1: your mind about this, because I mean, I don't what 1707 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,760 Speaker 1: do you mean by Pelosi is inciting violence? I mean, 1708 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,240 Speaker 1: in the past she said there should be upright, she 1709 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,680 Speaker 1: doesn't know why there aren't uprisings. Now she would say 1710 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:49,479 Speaker 1: that's an observation, not incitement. So I understand what they're 1711 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 1: what their tone would be, and what they would say 1712 01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,400 Speaker 1: about all this, But I just I wonder what exactly 1713 01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,280 Speaker 1: what exactly, Jamie are referring to give me a little 1714 01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 1: more details, and I think I can give you a 1715 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:04,720 Speaker 1: better response in the next roll call, Kelly Buck love 1716 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,720 Speaker 1: the show, Well, Kelly, show loves the Buck. Oh no, 1717 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 1: the show loves you. Not the show loves the Buck. Sorry, 1718 01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 1: the show loves the Kelly. If the big tech companies 1719 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,559 Speaker 1: are private businesses that can do what they want and 1720 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 1: censor the president and conservatives, why can't we use this 1721 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,559 Speaker 1: logic against them. If private businesses can do what they want, 1722 01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:31,920 Speaker 1: then private businesses should open right now. Well, Kelly, what 1723 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,240 Speaker 1: they mean by that is that private businesses outside of 1724 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,360 Speaker 1: an area that the government is already deciding for them, 1725 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,640 Speaker 1: has has autonomy and decision making. But I think what 1726 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: you're getting to is the larger point about how it's 1727 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,800 Speaker 1: just the business just has a right to do this 1728 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,280 Speaker 1: because we say, you know, because they say so is 1729 01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,000 Speaker 1: not enough in a whole lot of other areas. You know, 1730 01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,080 Speaker 1: the government will say it's too much of a health risk. Well, now, 1731 01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 1: I think conservatives are turning around too much of a 1732 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,360 Speaker 1: health risk to operate during COVID. I think a lot 1733 01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,639 Speaker 1: of conservatives are going to turn around and say it's 1734 01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 1: too much of a risk to free speech and the 1735 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:12,280 Speaker 1: First Amendment for big tech companies to be making partisan 1736 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,960 Speaker 1: decisions about what you can say, same kind of regulation 1737 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,960 Speaker 1: that the Democrats love for all kinds of things. Conservatives 1738 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:21,439 Speaker 1: are going to be using it now or trying to 1739 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,400 Speaker 1: use it. But I know some of you already saying, 1740 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,880 Speaker 1: how Buck, we don't have control. I know, I know 1741 01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,000 Speaker 1: we don't have control, and I don't have an answer, 1742 01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:35,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody really has an answer right 1743 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 1: now about this other than we try to convince more 1744 01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,680 Speaker 1: and more of our fellow Americans of the righteousness of 1745 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,720 Speaker 1: our positions, of our ideas or the rightness of them. Oh, 1746 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,680 Speaker 1: and righteousness depends. So Kelly, thank you, Thank Kelly. I 1747 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,600 Speaker 1: guess ultimately thank you for having great taste in a 1748 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,200 Speaker 1: radio or podcast program because you're listening to this one. Michael, 1749 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,519 Speaker 1: mister Saxon a producer, Mark, I have two points, and 1750 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,760 Speaker 1: I'll make them quick. First, I am, probably like most 1751 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,919 Speaker 1: of your listeners, blue collar father and die heart American. 1752 01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:10,240 Speaker 1: How do I explain to my kids we have to 1753 01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:13,200 Speaker 1: trust our constitution when we see those in control disregard 1754 01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:16,160 Speaker 1: at like a Walmart receipt. Second, thank you for your 1755 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,880 Speaker 1: honesty and diligence. We have all seen the conspiracy and 1756 01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,600 Speaker 1: side of this election. I hear more and more, but 1757 01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,640 Speaker 1: I also know if it doesn't get brought up on 1758 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:28,480 Speaker 1: your show, probably isn't real and it's just that conspiracy. 1759 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 1: So thank you for the open and honest content you provide. 1760 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,519 Speaker 1: You're doing all of us to serve as shields high ps. 1761 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,920 Speaker 1: Ohio would welcome you back with open arms. And we 1762 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:40,599 Speaker 1: have several hockey teams for a producer mark to enjoy. 1763 01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,839 Speaker 1: Are there a producer mark? Are there any good Ohio 1764 01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:47,639 Speaker 1: based hockey teams? Well, there's the Columbus Blue Jackets. They're 1765 01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:52,080 Speaker 1: okay blue. What is a blue jacket? I think it's 1766 01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:56,640 Speaker 1: a revolutionary war type of thing. Oh, they have a 1767 01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,599 Speaker 1: big cannon that they shoot off when they score goals. 1768 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 1: It's not they'll actually shoot the cannon, but it makes 1769 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,760 Speaker 1: the noise. And then again, okay, I was always kind 1770 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,559 Speaker 1: of jealous that the Patriots had the can and not 1771 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:11,679 Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Buccaneers had cannons for their football games, 1772 01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,280 Speaker 1: remember that when I when I used to watch the Giants. Yes, 1773 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,639 Speaker 1: they have a pirate ship in the stadium. That's where 1774 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,519 Speaker 1: the Super bowlers this year. Oh, look at that. It's 1775 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:25,679 Speaker 1: a pretty cool stadium you're in. This is the Buck 1776 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:33,280 Speaker 1: Show podcast hypothetical question for you Buck. This comes from TJ. 1777 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,759 Speaker 1: Would America have been better off with four years Obama 1778 01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,960 Speaker 1: and eight years of Romney than the eight years of 1779 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:44,639 Speaker 1: Obama and four years of of Trump that we got. Clearly, 1780 01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:48,480 Speaker 1: in hindsight, most Republicans don't look upon Romney that favorably, 1781 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 1: but much of perception has developed in the past four 1782 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,679 Speaker 1: years of Trump. As someone who voted for Romney myself 1783 01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,599 Speaker 1: and by the way, t J, I voted for Romney too, 1784 01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,200 Speaker 1: albeit not nearly as educated as I am now, I 1785 01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,760 Speaker 1: still think my instinctual answer would be yes, eight years 1786 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,680 Speaker 1: of Romney would have been better than the last four 1787 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,840 Speaker 1: years of Obama and first four of Trump. Well, that 1788 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,960 Speaker 1: expending too much more in that though, Let's hear you. PS. 1789 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,760 Speaker 1: This is not an anti Trump comment, but purely a 1790 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,280 Speaker 1: thought exercise. I still think Trump was a good president, 1791 01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:18,479 Speaker 1: but like you, I think there are some blunders in 1792 01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,960 Speaker 1: his tenure that need to be revisited and properly critique 1793 01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,120 Speaker 1: before we can move on to the next chapter. Well, TJ, 1794 01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:26,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I think I think that's just 1795 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:28,360 Speaker 1: where we all need to be. We all need to 1796 01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,720 Speaker 1: understand that we've got to have honest conversations about what 1797 01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:35,559 Speaker 1: went right and what didn't during the Trump presidency, because 1798 01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,559 Speaker 1: now it's not about, oh, you don't want Trump to win. 1799 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 1: He didn't win. It's over right, So we can at 1800 01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:44,200 Speaker 1: least talk about, well, why didn't he win? And we 1801 01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 1: want to talk about election irregularities that can be a 1802 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,360 Speaker 1: part of it, but there's other stuff too. And as 1803 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:54,720 Speaker 1: for eight years, yeah, I mean I think that you 1804 01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:58,519 Speaker 1: could make the argument. Interestingly enough, Obama for the first 1805 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,280 Speaker 1: four years were more I think you could argue more 1806 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:06,000 Speaker 1: impactful a long term than his second four years. Certainly 1807 01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:09,640 Speaker 1: from a legislative perspective, that's true with Obamacare. But just 1808 01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,720 Speaker 1: as a thought experiment, it would have been would it 1809 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,240 Speaker 1: have been better to have had eight years of Romney 1810 01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,479 Speaker 1: than four of Obama and four of Trump? I think 1811 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:21,479 Speaker 1: it's impossible to know, TJ. And I appreciate that you're 1812 01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:25,400 Speaker 1: asking me as a thought experiment, but you know, Romney 1813 01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,720 Speaker 1: would have been pretty wishy washy on a lot of 1814 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,680 Speaker 1: things we can tell, right, I mean, look at what 1815 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,640 Speaker 1: he says about BLM. Now, Romney would have been very 1816 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:39,479 Speaker 1: I think, very malleable as a Republican. And I also 1817 01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,320 Speaker 1: think that you would have had you would never I 1818 01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,320 Speaker 1: don't think you ever would have had eight years of Romney. 1819 01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,080 Speaker 1: I think you would have had four years of Romney 1820 01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,439 Speaker 1: and then four years of Hillary. I think that's really 1821 01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 1: the thought experiment. So then how does that make you feel? 1822 01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,479 Speaker 1: So you gotta dswer that one for me? TJ. Caleb 1823 01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,200 Speaker 1: buck love the show. You're absolutely right on the Capitol 1824 01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,920 Speaker 1: Hill riot. Political violence is abhorrent, no matter what side 1825 01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 1: does it. My question is concerning the GOP and I 1826 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,800 Speaker 1: Trump did flat out lose to Biden. What are we 1827 01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,559 Speaker 1: supposed to think that someone as deeply unimpressive as Biden 1828 01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:13,919 Speaker 1: got eighty million votes plus eighty million plus votes campaigning 1829 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:18,479 Speaker 1: from his basement while Trump outperformed his twenty sixteen campaign effort, 1830 01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,559 Speaker 1: especially since Trump performed better with minorities than any other 1831 01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,880 Speaker 1: GOP candidate in recent memory. Thank you for what you do, 1832 01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:27,760 Speaker 1: Shields High My questions doing the GP of Trump did 1833 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,240 Speaker 1: flat out lose to Biden? What are we supposed to 1834 01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:34,920 Speaker 1: think eighty million plus votes campaigning for his basement? Caleb? 1835 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,519 Speaker 1: The media is very powerful. We were to pandemic year. 1836 01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 1: Everybody was watching more news and more reading more stuff 1837 01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,800 Speaker 1: on the internet and social media than ever before. I 1838 01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:47,160 Speaker 1: know it's hard to believe, but you know, Trump got 1839 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,400 Speaker 1: seventy five million votes. Maybe Biden did get the eighty million, 1840 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,720 Speaker 1: and I know no one wants to hear that, but 1841 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's prove otherwise. But we got to 1842 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:01,559 Speaker 1: prove otherwise, not just say otherwise. And that's where we are. 1843 01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:03,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I know that's not the way 1844 01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,559 Speaker 1: I want to send you off the weekend. Have a 1845 01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:09,040 Speaker 1: but have a great weekend, everybody. Enjoy yourselves, relaxed, take 1846 01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:12,280 Speaker 1: care of yourselves. We've gotta got a heck of a 1847 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,559 Speaker 1: week coming up. Next week, we'll be in it together 1848 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:15,799 Speaker 1: though shields high