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Speaker 1: The I Am Rappaport Stereonion Podcast Live Get Down with

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Speaker 1: rapp Report. Yes I am, I'm a Rapperport, Yes I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Rapperport. Yes I am a Rapperport. Yes i am.

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Speaker 1: Better tune in. I am rapp Report dot com because

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Speaker 1: every single podcast you know he drops FROMBS. I've seen

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Speaker 1: champions host the bagel, Cream, cheese and lock. This is

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Speaker 1: I Am Rappaport. The show never stopped Mike catching Mountain

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Speaker 1: Public stretching his knees. But if you don't listen to

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Speaker 1: the show, Yo, We're gonna please Wire, gonna please Sister

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Speaker 1: Rapport podcast. Yo, this is Michael Rappaport. I have the

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Speaker 1: pleasure of interviewing Troy Terrain, a k A. Star Joe

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Speaker 1: Scunnay from Starring buck Wall from Jersey. I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I literally have just met you

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Speaker 1: for the first time and I told you I'm tripping

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Speaker 1: out because like, I didn't know you had feet, because

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Speaker 1: my whole life i've heard you and even on your

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Speaker 1: show it's like, you know, shot from like the way stuff,

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Speaker 1: and like, I didn't know you have fucking legs, and

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I got legs. We we actually got a

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Speaker 1: couple of hors in the kitchen. The Molly's on the table,

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Speaker 1: and it's a Saturday afternoon. It's a good day, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. And you know what, I was afraid I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you on the air because the first time

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Speaker 1: I met you was over the radio. I was doing

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Speaker 1: press for the Trap Cold Quest movie and I called

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Speaker 1: into your show and I was like, I kept telling

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Speaker 1: my girl, you know I'm doing Stars. She was like,

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Speaker 1: who the fun are you telling? I was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I got it at like we had a good conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I was nervous as fuck, because as I should be,

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Speaker 1: because the the idea of getting a tongue lashing from

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Speaker 1: Star is like it's a it's a horrifying thing. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make this offer on air. Can

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Speaker 1: I pay for your parking or anything? Because I was

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid if when I leave this interview the next

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Speaker 1: time you go on your show, and he goes, I

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Speaker 1: went to go visit that jew motherfucker, Michael Rappaport. I

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Speaker 1: drove all the way into the city. The parking is

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Speaker 1: paid for, and and and then and then you say,

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Speaker 1: I want to go do this jew motherfucker Michael Rapport.

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Speaker 1: And then atliast does the belt. God Bless the Jews,

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Speaker 1: that there is no God but God, but God bless

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Speaker 1: the Jews. God's chosen people. I'm an atheist, but but

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Speaker 1: when I was a believer, God's chosen people, the Jews.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, so it's a real pleasure to to to

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Speaker 1: talk to you and and and to be because like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm a fan, and uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: grew I grew up in New York City. But by

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Speaker 1: the time you got on the radio, I was an

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Speaker 1: adult and it was just like here I got I

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Speaker 1: got in the radio started to cut you off. In

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Speaker 1: March of two thousand, so many people. That was the

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Speaker 1: first time. Yea, so many people. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean it sounds too cocky. My impact was

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Speaker 1: the radio in the nineties I started doing threst food

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Speaker 1: radio in March of two thousand. What were you doing

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Speaker 1: before that? I was making counterfeit money, selling guns and

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Speaker 1: and and all sorts of ship down on St. John's

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Speaker 1: and notion No, well, I was doing a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of ship. I had put in eight years at record labels,

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Speaker 1: we One, elector Atlantic. I was national director at Virgin Records.

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Speaker 1: From one, I worked with the very talented and the

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Speaker 1: R type of ship. No, no, no no, My thing was

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Speaker 1: marketing promotion. But that's what you did that, That's what

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Speaker 1: did you do that? And then become a radio personality

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Speaker 1: because I know you you play bass and and so

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Speaker 1: so when you when when you say that, it's so funny,

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Speaker 1: like you have pictures of yourself in a Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: give you the copy of my book, Like what kind

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Speaker 1: So at one point Troy Terrain, a K star had

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Speaker 1: to be like, this Debbie Gibson album is fire Fire.

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Speaker 1: You had to say Electric Youth, you had to say,

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Speaker 1: this Debbie Gibson album is all This is that ship?

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Speaker 1: I called record stores from fucking Maine down to Florida

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Speaker 1: promoting Debbie gibbson and tell me, tell me like the

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Speaker 1: but you were sent. So you were like, this is

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Speaker 1: can I get a report to the Billboard? Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know Billboard reporters to to the to the top for

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Speaker 1: the stations. I was on coke and I was a

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Speaker 1: hell of a goddamn promotion, all right. So everybody who

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Speaker 1: the irony of him saying, Debbie Gibson is that fucking

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Speaker 1: crack you need to buy once upon a time? Alright,

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Speaker 1: So so go ahead and continue like and tell me

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Speaker 1: how it became from that two. It's all been business

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Speaker 1: I created a magazine called Around the Way Connections. I

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Speaker 1: I got you. So so I brought in my my,

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Speaker 1: I wrote the columns. I used his face, and that's

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Speaker 1: how Starring buck Wild became. You know, the the the

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Speaker 1: So that's how you became starring buck Wild on the radio.

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Speaker 1: I did like this, right, did you know some type

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Speaker 1: you to get the full package just two thousand and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: was a fucking clown. It's a fucking clown who probably

424
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Speaker 1: drinks his pepsi with a straw. And I've said that

425
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: before ship case anybody can catch that one ship? All right?

426
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: What the whole objective of hate, the whole theory, the

427
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: whole point of view, the whole fucking barrack like like

428
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, like your tongue lashings can

429
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: be so violent, but but I'm just saying with the

430
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: tongue like, they're so ferocious and the whole onslaught. Was

431
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: that something that started organically or were you like, was

432
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: it calculated? I know you talked about Lenny Bruce is

433
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: an inspiration and I think some one time, I don't

434
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: know what the funk was, but you said something like

435
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm the New Lenny Bruce or something like, so we're

436
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: we're or was it emotional and then you started to

437
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: own it? Do you know what I'm saying? I can

438
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: tell you exactly where is he probably laugh? Okay, go ahead.

439
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm from New Jersey, that's it. Okay, Okay, I'm from

440
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: a place. I'm from a place called Scott's Plains, New Jersey. Okay.

441
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: Explain that my mother's Neapolitan Italian father was African American. Okay,

442
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: so there are similarities and how we grew up, right,

443
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: me and all of my friends, we used to bust

444
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: each other's balls, right, we rank on you, your sister,

445
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: your mother. Were you good at it? I was? I

446
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: was awesomeatic. I was good too. It was awesomatic. You know.

447
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: It kept kept people out of distance. Yeah, because people

448
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: don't want to funk with you. It's like you you

449
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: could be able to fight fight, which I couldn't really do.

450
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: You could play ball, your you could be a murderer,

451
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: you could be pretty boy, you could be but if

452
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: you can pop shit, that was that would be like

453
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: sort of like a credential. It's right, that would be

454
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: some way to keep people. So I'm from New Jersey, Okay,

455
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm a spoiled kid, the youngest of two boys. Okay,

456
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: I had a big thing I ever needed and wanted.

457
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: And you're straight Italian mom and black father. Mom's straight

458
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: Italian Neapolitan, not to be confused with Sicilian trash. You know,

459
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: I got you. But I'm saying she's she's an Italian woman,

460
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: vicious woman. We're not allowing me to bring the jew

461
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: bros in her house. Whoa, whoa, She said, don't you

462
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: ever bring an agent to trash into this house. You

463
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: can bring a Porto Rican, you can bring a colored chick,

464
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: but no, fucking don't you bring those little dirty enter

465
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 1: girls into my home. That's fucking that's that's real ship.

466
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: That's real. That's real ship. Okay. But okay, so I was.

467
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: I was a spoiled kid, mopeds every year, swimming pool.

468
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: When I got to New York, I dropped out of

469
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: high school. And you're how old me? I'm fifty now? No.

470
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: Then then at this point seventeen, I dropped out of

471
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: high school. I started sniffing blow, hanging with whores. But

472
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: I remember a lot of things that my mother and father,

473
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: But maybe my mother, because my mother was a news

474
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: reporter and she was also a school teacher. But she

475
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: always used to tell me, you know, keep a book

476
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: in your back pocket at all fucking times, keep watching

477
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: your wrist, and still many other other things. But those

478
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: are the main things. So I, you know, always said,

479
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: tell you other than that, go fund yourself. And then

480
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: are those are in terms of how I became the

481
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: the verbal assassin that that you say I am. My

482
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: mother put me on to the honorably Elijah Mohammed, really

483
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: an Italian woman. She she gave me the book message

484
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Message to the black Man. She says, take this, read it,

485
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: draw your own conclusions. When you were how old maybe fourteen?

486
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh ship, she said, she said, draw your own conclusions.

487
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: You should be aware of this. Huh. So he was

488
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: a vicious, beautiful, intelligent man with you see, he was

489
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: the real you know, cut and dry, you know, verbal assassin.

490
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: Malcolm X was you know, more funny. Malcolm had had

491
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: the flare in the pop. Elijah Mohammed was just cold hearted. Whoo.

492
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: So I used to listen to a lot of Elijah

493
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: Mohammed cassettes. That's really fucking interesting. So I learned about history,

494
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, not just through through the private with the

495
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: private schools, and I combine that with other things and

496
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: then um through through my favorite band or one of

497
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: my favorite bands, Chic and Rush. But through Rush, I

498
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: was introduced to iron Rand and objectivism her philosophy. So

499
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 1: when I started reading iron Rand books and then you know,

500
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: getting into to the objectivist field, I became not just confident,

501
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: but but I found found ways to harness my arrogance,

502
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: my cockiness, and to be assertive, but to be more

503
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: of a businessman. All right, here's another thing that we

504
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: have to talk about basketball at some point. Can we

505
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: start at the greatest basketball player ever? First? Who in

506
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: your opinion? Don't say Bill Russell? What do you mean? Who?

507
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: Wall Fraser? Bill? Don't say no, I'm sorry, I said

508
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: the greatest. Don't say Bill Russell to me, because you

509
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: know the greatest. Let's not kid us, Okay, I say,

510
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue with that. But I would take

511
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Overbird. Doc handed it off to Jordan's And that's

512
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: excuse I was about to walk out. Wait, let me,

513
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: let me, let me break it down, because I could

514
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: debate hard. Like there's certain things I'm like, I don't

515
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: want to let me show called get the hold on,

516
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, everybody fucking comment. Okay,

517
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Doc magic Larry Doc who though the good doctor Dr J. Julius.

518
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: Come on, But no, I'm not saying the fancy fly

519
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: jiggy show book nigga. And he's lucky he got one ring.

520
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Please please see this is why you're you're fucking funny man.

521
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: He's lucky he got one ring. He was, he was

522
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: towards the end of his fucking I'm not saying his

523
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: greatest blazers Malone got that fucking ring. Please. Let's go

524
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: back to the greatest Larry Bird. No, he's not better

525
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan's. I would take I would take Jordan's

526
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: definitely better than Hang on a second. How you gonna

527
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: say that Larry Bird is the greatest. Explain? Please can explain, Larry?

528
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Can I explain it? Go ahead? The greatest Labby Bird

529
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: played against the baddest black motherfucker's every unified, every night,

530
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: every night, every year, night after night, game after game.

531
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Speaker 1: Let's start with that bad black motherfucker James Worthy. Yes,

532
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: so I have that bad black motherfucker Bob McAdoo, that

533
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: bad black motherfucker lou Al cinder ak cream Abdul and

534
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: that bad motherfucker Magic Johnson. Yes, okay, was there at

535
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: the time too. I'll get to that, to that jiggy nigga,

536
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, surely. But Larry Bird pushed how many championships

537
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: out of the Celtics could he win? Four? Three? You see?

538
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: Come on, man, he only won three? And how much

539
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: did Magic win? He couldn't jump and he gave those

540
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: fancy jiggy niggas hell, Okay, he inspired and he took

541
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: the torch from Bill Russell. I'm not gonna say Bill

542
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: Russell was the greatest, but you know, don't say I'm not.

543
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm not. But Larry Bird is the grace. Now, let's

544
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: just bypass all that because I want to get to

545
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: the fucking Knicks and I want to put the way

546
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: I had. No, no, no, no, I have to stop

547
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you because I have to say, you mean to tell me,

548
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: gun to your head, you're gonna take one basketball player

549
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: to play against the fucking evils that be in the

550
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: world at their peak, at their peak. I've stolen this,

551
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: this concept from Bill Simmons because he writes it, talks

552
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: about this, and then not Michael Jordan wouldn't be the

553
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: first person you picked. Michael Jordan. He's one of the greatest,

554
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: but the greatest, lay all right. See, the thing is

555
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: is that it's hard to argue because it's it's a

556
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: team sport. We're talking about individuals. Hard for you to

557
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: argue because you know, you know, black on black crime

558
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: is real, but you know white on white hate is

559
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: really really I'm giving fucking Star a fucking pound. Love

560
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: this fucking guy. You are a funny mother. No. The

561
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: reason why, here's my thing with don't deny the Mancasian

562
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: man dominance. Please white motherfucker's who only likes black mother

563
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: the funk that that's not the case. Here's here's why.

564
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: And I've talked about this before, not only on the show,

565
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: but like and I have regrets about it. But when

566
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: when when Bird was in the league. First of all,

567
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: I think there was factions like you were either a

568
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: Bird guy or a Magic guy, but I was also

569
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: but at the core week, let me finish at the

570
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: core for for my age two. So I'm a little younger. Okay,

571
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: so I'm a little bit younger. So like those guys

572
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: like I was nine and ten, When I was nine

573
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: and ten, when I was first introduced to them, So

574
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't you might have been fucking twenty. I'm fifty

575
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: years old. I was seventy seventy, so you you were seventeen,

576
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: So your your point of view and your opinion, you

577
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: had already loved it, So that's a factor. But I

578
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: was such a Knicks fan and he fucked the Knicks

579
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: so bad all the time. And I like Dr J

580
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: more than I like Larry Bird, and Larry Bird shot

581
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: on Dr J. So I'm telling you this so as

582
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: my my wigged. If if you put if you put

583
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Dr Jay's name in this conversation time, I'm just telling you,

584
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna smash your fucking coffee. Said what I'm saying

585
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: to J came out of the A B A. He

586
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: was flying with all the big afro, but he his

587
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: game was sub It was no I understand, Come on, man,

588
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: I understand. It wasn't he's evolved as those guys games.

589
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't as evolved as those guys games. Absolutely, but

590
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: neither was neither was fucking like. That's why I'm saying, like,

591
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: you could take John Sally. I told us to John

592
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: Sally to his face. If John Sally had played in

593
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: the Bill Russell hor John Sally would be like Bill

594
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Russell on fucking steroids. He looked at me like I

595
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: was crazy. I was like, John, you were playing against

596
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: white motherfucker's six ft six centers. My uncle Arnie was

597
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: a fucking center who played against Bill Russell. What are

598
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: you gonna bullshit? But look at Shays and he's I

599
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: mean it was the league was. He was predominantly white, okay,

600
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: and his his biggest competition was Will Chamberlain, who he

601
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: got the better of, but arguably Will anyway, any fucking way.

602
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: The point is is that I grew up hating Larry

603
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: because he shipped on my knicks and he shifted on Bernard.

604
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Can't he just shipped all my knicks over and over

605
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: that I couldn't appreciate him while he was playing? Do

606
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: you understand? I imagine if Twitter existed when Larry Bird,

607
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: hate would be for that fucking, ugly fucking Unfortunately I

608
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: don't do hypotheticals, but I just want to say this

609
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: Libry Bird shut Michael Jordan down when in many cases,

610
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: what do you Kimmy, did you watch? Highlights shut him

611
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: down on many occasions. Now Michael Jordan. He was a

612
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: volume shooter. He was a ballhog. He did not learn

613
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: that at that time. Hang on, he did not learn

614
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: the science of fucking basketball until Bert was out of

615
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: the league. I agree. He was just a ballhog. He

616
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: was a jumping around three sixty Tomahawks, slamming nigga, and

617
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: he was he was a bad motherfucker's shut your mouth, YadA,

618
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But he couldn't do ship with Labry Bird.

619
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Then Michael figured it out and cracked that ass. Well,

620
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, somebody had to teach him the science of

621
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: fucking basketball, and Phil had a lot to do with it. Well,

622
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson did be because Michael Jordan's first coach was

623
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Doug Collins. Doug Collins, so Phil, Phil Jackson taught this

624
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: this guy the game that Abby Bird already knew. So

625
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: let's not play games. But who was better? You know,

626
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is one of the greatest, but Birds the

627
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: Birds the best. Now, if we can fast forward to

628
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: the Knicks, in my opinion, somewhere after Bernard King, the

629
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: great Bernard King, big butt nigga from Brooklyn. Somewhere after

630
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: Bernard King, the Knicks became some type of fucking FuG

631
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Speaker 1: hip hop outfit. You know you had Oakley Mason, you

632
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: know you had Patrick Ewing and and and and it

633
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: became well, I'll get to speedy in a second, it

634
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: became a thug operation. And it's just like you know,

635
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: we tried in the nineties, man, the pat Riley teams.

636
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: But how could you not like that team? They were gooning.

637
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: They tell you why, I'll tell you why, because then

638
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. Go ahead. The Knicks that

639
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: won the last championship in nineteen seventy three had a

640
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: mixture of black and white players. Honestly, the Knicks became

641
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: too black. I'm thinking about too black, but how many white?

642
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: How do you bring in a black guy with fucking

643
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: corn rolls who choked his coach out of the West Coast.

644
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: He's not he's not. He doesn't have the finesse of

645
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: a Wolf Frazier. No, he doesn't understand the fact that

646
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: this is the number one market and you have to

647
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: you have to have a swagger that that that people respect.

648
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: You don't come into town being a fucking goom. But

649
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: but pat Riley really set the tone for that ship.

650
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: Or you're saying just you're saying, not even on the court,

651
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you're saying just in jail. I'll agree with you. Pat

652
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Riley set the tone. He and you know what, it's

653
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: too black, too black. You need you need some white

654
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: boys or and until you get some white boys, you're

655
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: not winning ship. Carmelo Anthony respect to him. I love

656
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: his wife Laula. He's a volume shooter. I agree, winning

657
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: no championship with Carmelo Anthon. I'm not gonna argue. See

658
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: that's what you're not gonna get from me. I am

659
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: not gonna argue with you about j R. Smith. Goodbye,

660
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: my nigga. Get the funk out of town clubs with

661
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: sucking dip Se the funk out of here. You know

662
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: what shopper you up be on World Star. Get get

663
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: your fucking get them a guy. I agree. I had

664
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: enough of those two fucking guys. I had enough of them.

665
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: But but you're not gonna I'm not gonna. I'm not

666
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and be like defending the fucking Knicks.

667
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: We needed Danny Ainge. How How loved would Kevin Love

668
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: be in New York? I mean, you get a fucking

669
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: white dude who could shoot, It's too black, it's too

670
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: hip hop. I'm sorry, and I'm a man of color

671
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: saying that. He that I'm not gonna say that's the

672
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: reason why we suck because it's too black. But I'm

673
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: gonna say I give suck a lot of other people.

674
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: You'll talk to. You love the Knicks, Would you be

675
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: happy if they did well? I got thrown out of

676
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: the garden three times. The last time they gave me

677
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: a warning because I have a permit to carry and

678
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: I had my whole store. I was up in the

679
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: bleaches and I'm throwing fucking ship down the end and

680
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: security today, star sit down, sit your fucking ask and

681
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sit down. Was drunk and they said get

682
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: the funk out, so they gave me a warning. So

683
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't go back for other reasons. But get a

684
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: grouch on marks nose and let's go in there. Come.

685
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: Can you rock the But you gotta watch the oh ship.

686
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna move on. I wanna ask this is

687
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: because we've been we've been talking. This is I got

688
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: a question because your stance on the shootings, black on

689
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: black crime, the thugs, the gangs, the shooting in the hood,

690
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: all the fucking the horror, the horror, the horror of

691
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: the horror of all that ship. And you spoke out

692
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: about that for years and now you're your your take

693
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: on the cops. Can you articulate to me about like

694
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: sort of your the growth of that and the point

695
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: of view of that and just what what what what

696
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: what ignites you about that? Well, well, let's let' let's

697
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: separate black on black crime from these fucking drug addicts

698
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: cops and in my opinion, they are drug addicts. High

699
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: an authority. Let's separate black on black crime because because

700
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: you know that that's a whole another myth that we

701
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: can we can deal with a little bit later. But

702
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: but but you know, the the the the numbers are

703
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: skewed and low level policing is what makes you know

704
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: the numbers uh, you know, big good than what they

705
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: really are in terms of so cold black on black crime.

706
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: But now, I used to be a big time cops supporter.

707
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: I applied to be a police officer three times in

708
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: my life. Are I was rejected all three times. I'm

709
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: sorry to laugh. Half my family's Italian. On my mother's side.

710
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: I got some retired captains. I got two cousins that

711
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: actually were cops the time in the penitentiary because they

712
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: were dirty cops. Shout out to my cousin, Sal. What up?

713
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Sal used to listen. He listens to the eye and

714
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: wrap up a podcast. We're big in the penitent I

715
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: used to justify every fucking beating, choking, shooting of a

716
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: black and a Hispanic at the hands of a cop. Now,

717
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: why would you would you do it for fun? Because funny?

718
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to be a cop. I wanted to

719
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: be a drug addict high an authority. And it's a

720
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: good thing that I was rejected because I would have

721
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: been a dirty cop. I'd be doing twenty years in

722
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the penitentiary right now, some fucking drug deals going bad,

723
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: you know, shaking somebody down, shooting black kids in the back.

724
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm not laughing. I'm laughing at the way you say it.

725
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I was a big time cops supporter. I'm

726
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: fifty years of age now. After the Tree Von Martin

727
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: shooting at the hands of a wannabe cop, I just

728
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: I just started to reflect on where where where I

729
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: was was at and where I am at now, and

730
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: I feel for people who are losing their kids, even

731
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: though I have no biological kids at the hands of

732
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: drug addicts. These cops in this country should not be

733
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: carrying guns. That's number one. Now do we need cops, Yes, cops,

734
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: citizens on patrol. But their fucking mentality is not what

735
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: it should be. They're arrogant. The way they approach people

736
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: is bullshit. This is America landa factory. Forefathers and the

737
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: pilgrims came here so we can freak off and funk off.

738
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Do drugs, fuck animals, beastiality. I'm not intact, but I'm

739
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: just saying America promotes all the all the ship, right,

740
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: Simon Gore. Right, So now, why do you not want

741
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: people to have fun if you're a cop? Why? Why mean?

742
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: Because the cops are so fucking greedy, They've got quotas,

743
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: they're fucking greedy, all this low level policing. This piece

744
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: of ship, Patrick Lynch, you're you're an uneducated piece of ship.

745
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: You didn't go to school. He did it? Huh, he

746
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: didn't go to college. He was grandfathered in. He's got

747
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: the old mentality. He's a fucking low life and a loser.

748
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: His teeth the fucking jagged. And I just said, hey,

749
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, I feel for people's kids, people's father's daughters,

750
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: cousins who are getting shot shot down like wild dogs.

751
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: Now what if? Now what? And and and the killings are

752
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: being justified. I think it's disgusting. I think it's and

753
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: it hasn't just been going on. So I changed my position.

754
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: I was wrong. If anybody remembers me being a big

755
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: time cops supporter, I was wrong. And they are out

756
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: of control. In England, Sir Robert Peel brought forth the

757
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Police Act which prevented cops or Bobby's as they

758
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: call them, or they used to call them Peelers, to

759
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: prevents them from carrying guns on patrol. That they have

760
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: guns firearms in the glove compartment of the vehicle if

761
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: they need it, and they have a special unit that

762
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: will come with guns if they need it. But but

763
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: if you get caught within a legal handgun, you're doing

764
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: hard fucking time. So that's that's what we need here. Yeah,

765
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: I agree the guns are out. Any black or Hispanic

766
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: kid shooting at a fucking hip hop concert should do

767
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: ten years in the penitency ten years period. No if

768
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: fans are but fuck you, fuck your mother, bam that's it.

769
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Any time should have coped twenty years off the period.

770
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: So I agree, because the the can the shootings and

771
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: and it's it's coming from both days. But what do

772
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: you say to the the people whill say, okay, but

773
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: what about these cops that are being attacked before this year,

774
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: like before h Eric Garner, before Michael Brown, like you know,

775
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: just the like the violence and the pressure that cops

776
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: are on from just doing the day to day job.

777
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: What do you say in defense of the cops? Hang on?

778
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: Hang on now, I think I know you. You have

779
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: a point if you want. I think police officers should

780
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: get paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year

781
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: starting salary. Okay, two d and fifty k. Why is it?

782
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Why is that? But you don't carry a gun, so

783
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: you should You should be a lucrative job. Sure, these

784
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: are the people that that protect and service right. I

785
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: got no problem with giving you two hundred and fifty K.

786
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: If I can pay for a fucking jerk off, you know,

787
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: to jump around fucking Madison Square guard and fucking lose

788
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: game at the game, at the game, If I can

789
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: pay twenty bucks for a fucking hot dog and fucking

790
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: Yankee stadium. I'll pay actual money and taxes to give

791
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: you two hundred and fifty k a cop who treats

792
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: me with respect. You don't carry a gun in the streets.

793
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: You don't kill my fucking kids. You can have a

794
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: gun in your vehicle if you need it. Right, Legalized

795
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: marijuana so you're not shaking, you know, blacks and Hispanics

796
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: down for fucking dime bags. Legalized coke. He let people

797
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: shoot some skag between your toes during lunchtime. Right, But

798
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: how do you get the like realistically, how do we

799
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: get the guns out to start this new sort of

800
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: mentality and new program. Okay, it's it's it's a process.

801
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: We're giving people six months of turning their fucking guns.

802
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: More than six months. It will give you a year,

803
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: eighteen months, give eighteen months. After eighteen months and you'll

804
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 1: quote a gun. You're doing five ten fucking years period. Listen,

805
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: it works in England. If you have the gun, you

806
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: fucking asshole. That's it. That's it. I don't give a fuck, cousin,

807
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know. If you have it, you're going to jail.

808
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: It makes it England down, and we just do abandoned

809
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: build and you don't get treated good in jail, like

810
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: it's like we want to punish people, but then we

811
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: want to go to prisoners rights. You have a guns,

812
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: gun bag. The whole world knows. Eighteen months from now,

813
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I agree, so harsh gun laws. Give the cops in

814
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: fifty k a piece, team up in pairs, and no

815
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: more this low level policing in terms of you know,

816
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: stopping frisk, not go off the stopping frisk. There's more

817
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: blacks in the penitentiary now than there were slaves in

818
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: this country during the peak of fucking slavery. That's a fact.

819
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: It's low level. It's low level policing. Stop shaking down

820
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: old black kids looking for guns, right, Make the gun

821
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: laws harsh and everybody you can stop looking for the guns.

822
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Stop stop running down on niggas in the hood. Right.

823
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: Did you see this piece of ship copp in Brooklyn

824
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: kick the black stomped on his head. It's crazy now,

825
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, Blacks and Hispanics have to stop squirming. What

826
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: do you mean when the cups are going on you

827
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: put your hands behind your fucking backs. Stop squirming, right,

828
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Stop trying to explain yourself to talk to the judge, right, Okay,

829
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: deal with it. Then deal with it. Then he keeps squirming.

830
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna taste you my shooting yourself. You'll be a

831
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: world star shooting on yourself. Stay still, motherfucker, Stay still. Now,

832
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: I just want to say something else, because you know,

833
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: I'm an objectivist, right and I like that. I love

834
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: that about you. I don't support tribalism. Okay, and what

835
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: is My heart goes out to this guy in Billings, Montana,

836
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: Richard Ramirez holy ship when he got explain that that clip. Now, yes,

837
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Richard was involved in his shooting earlier in the daytime.

838
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Yes he was, you know, allegedly tweaking off of some

839
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: type of fucking Crystal matthy. He had some good ship,

840
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: you know. And but now you can see the video Billings, Montana.

841
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: That's the cop officer. What was his name? I forget

842
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: that fucking pricks name. He beat the charges. So let's

843
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: not write anything reckless. That would be a lawsuit. Right.

844
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: We don't want to get lawsuits exactly because we could

845
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: get sued, you know about that reckless in dangerment of

846
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: the truth. I know you know about that ship. I

847
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: have to say allegedly, right, I never lost the lawsuit.

848
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I'll take it that a little later. Anyway, this fucking

849
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: piece of ship drug addict cop again Highland authority Richard

850
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: is on something. And even if he I thought Richard

851
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: was on something. How do you know? How do you

852
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: know that the guy is not mentally challenged? Right, Richard

853
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: couldn't put his hands on the back of the seat.

854
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: He's paranoid, But he wasn't reaching for a fucking gun.

855
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: How do you not? How do you know that at

856
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: the time, at the moment, he's shaking, right, And here's

857
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: the kicker, he was not. He was not lunging at

858
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: the officer. Right, you see a compass supposed to shoot

859
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: to stop? Right, to stop you and that my life

860
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: is in danger? And I feel like, why not shoot

861
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: him in the thigh? Well I don't get that. You know,

862
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: you can't shoot to wound? Why not just stop? It's

863
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: against the law. Your life has to be seen danger.

864
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: They should be trained the first like to go for

865
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: the legs because if you know, I'm saying, if you

866
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: let the drug addicts shoot people to to you know,

867
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: to to to to wound them, then it will really

868
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: be out of control. But anyway, I feel sorry for

869
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: the family of this guy, Rich Ramirez. Again, Yes he

870
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: was involved in something. They were looking for him, but

871
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: the cop shoots him three times because he doesn't comply.

872
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: I know. And holy ship, it's it's it's vicious. And

873
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: and the Eric Garner thing really took the took the

874
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: wind out of me. That I'd betther focused on the

875
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: white guy for he could be because you know what

876
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: you mean, if the cops will shoot you know other

877
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: whites and dogs, nigga's life ain't worth ship. But you know,

878
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen a videotape of I've never

879
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: we're right now, we're on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

880
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: You know what, I've never seen a videotape of some

881
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: arrogant je prick who gets pulled over on his bends

882
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: on seventy nine and First Avenue, who's probably loaded billionaire

883
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: popping shipped to the cops like you're wasting my time?

884
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: What the funk are you doing? He's never got pulled

885
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: out through the fucking car and gotten his ass kick.

886
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: And these guys could be just on GP, just on

887
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: some man and man ship, some real Erican fox, and

888
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: the videotape of that or I've never seen an Italian

889
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: comes there. There is no hate like white on white hate.

890
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: But but Michael Rappaport has been going after the Jews

891
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: since I fucking first said down here. He's reminded me

892
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: of one of my favorite actors, Ryan Gosling in the

893
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: role of the Believe It. Did you see that? Yes,

894
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: of course, of course, of course he's a great actor.

895
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: But but do you know what I'm saying, Like, I

896
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: I like to you, what did you say? You're an

897
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: objective objectivist? I'm gonna I'm gonna consider myself an objectivist

898
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: because no, no, no, you're fucking jew hate. But I'm

899
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: Jewish though, But you know what I'm saying, like, do

900
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like objectively, it's like those

901
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: motherfucker's should get fucking dealt with two and they don't

902
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: get like objective Beverly Hills. These motherfucker's. You see what

903
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: the fund are you doing? You? I'm wasting my time.

904
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: They don't get pulled out of the car Mike. Objectively. Yes,

905
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: the Jews have been through a Holocaust. Yes they bounced Yes,

906
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: well maybe I shouldn't say they bounced back. They have

907
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: regained some of the um traction that they've once had.

908
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: And I think it's a beautiful thing that they have

909
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: been able to pull their resources, restructure their culture and

910
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's a beautiful fucking thing. But have

911
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: you ever seen the video of videotape of an Italian

912
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: American cop beating the ship out of an Italian American

913
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: woman like that videotape that foot is? I mean, I'm

914
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: sure I have, but but but you know, I mean,

915
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: but I'm saying I've never seen it because I don't

916
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: think that it happens. Do you know what I'm saying.

917
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: There's so many videos of of cops brutalizing not just blacks,

918
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: but of Caucasians as well, whether they be Italians or

919
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: whether they be Jewish, where they be Polish female typically Caucasians. Yes,

920
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: I've seen fucking white cops punching Caucasian females inside of

921
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: the fucking head, you know, giving them the boot. Yeah,

922
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Man, Okay, I haven't seen it, but

923
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: in general, you do you know what I'm saying. It's

924
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: like it's usually it's it's predominantly what you see is

925
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: predominantly either a white male or a white female cop

926
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: doing something to a person of color. The majority of

927
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: what you see in these taps. But you know, right

928
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: a wrong. I don't mean to use the Trayvon Martin

929
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: death as as the the the well, you know what,

930
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: it is the springboard for me. But but but there

931
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: was a rational realization that came about a couple of

932
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: years prior to that, because of the fact that I

933
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: am older and I do want to have kids, and

934
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't want whether I have kids with, you know,

935
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: with with a woman of color or with some fucking

936
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, Caucasian chick. I don't want my kids being

937
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: choked out, tasered, or beaten by some fucking uneducated drug

938
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: addict simply because they're having a good time, you know,

939
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: on fucking Venice Beach smoking a dime bag. Now, I

940
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: hear you. I agree with you. No, America, don't fucking

941
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: kill my kid. Don't sucking choke my kid, because if

942
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: you do, I'll go I'll go into a I don't

943
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: want to say what I will do because that could

944
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: be a charge. But yeah, you're allegedly you have the possibility.

945
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Allegedly you know I'll make you sorry. So so I'm

946
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: standing up. I have a show called Stop the Police

947
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: on YouTube. We have a Kickstarter campaign and even mentioned

948
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: that Holy Ship break it down. Yeah, if you're going

949
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: to kickstarter, folks, we have a type and stop the Police.

950
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: We're just asking for a five thousand dollar you know,

951
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: um that that's that's our goal so that we can

952
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: continue to do what it is that we do. And

953
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to interesting people would it be would it

954
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: be a show or would it be like what would

955
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: be the ideal forum for it? Well, I do the

956
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: show five days a week now, you know. But I'm

957
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: saying like in terms of the Kickstar, I'm asking like,

958
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: in terms of the Kickstarter, Well, see, I think you

959
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: should be on TV. I think that I think that

960
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: Range should be on TV. I'll get there, get there.

961
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about

962
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: it either. But I just think that your point of

963
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: view and your your your voice, and your dichotomy of things,

964
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: your sense of humor, your your your take on the

965
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: world should be on TV. One question I want to

966
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: ask you where the fuck is Buck Wild? Like? For

967
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: me as a fan? And I don't I don't follow everything.

968
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't get to listen all the time. And this

969
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: is a totally genuine question. Did starring Buck Wild breakup?

970
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Who is Buck Wild? What is your relationship and what

971
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: is the professional relationship going forward? Buck Wild, a k,

972
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Timothy Joseph, his family. There will always be a Stuck

973
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: starring Buck Wild and some and it just lives on. Yeah.

974
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean, at times we take breaks from the entertainment

975
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: industry because we are really objective haters. You know, Buck

976
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: is um but Bucks living in Jersey. He just had

977
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: a beautiful baby boy. He's got himself a beautiful girlfriend.

978
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: He's older. Now how old is he? Man? But Bucks

979
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: Bucks close? I'll just say he's close to forty. Okay,

980
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 1: so he's a little younger than you. Okay, I didn't

981
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: know that he's close to for he's not. He's not

982
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to. I just wanted to get it if

983
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: he was the same age. You know, he's very anti celebrity.

984
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: He's always been like that. So for him to not

985
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: be on the doll it's not a big I got you,

986
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. He's not a fame thirsty

987
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: scumbag like me and you. I got you. Well, I'm

988
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: not really fame thirsty either, But I'm just playing. You know,

989
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: he's just very low key. He's still a big weed

990
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: head when I call. When I call him, he's there.

991
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: If I would say, Buck, we're moving to Bermuda next month, down,

992
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, let's go. And so so you

993
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: guys would do some ship if it's like I got you,

994
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah. But but but you know it's

995
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: like there wasn't like a falling out or anything like no, okay,

996
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: And I'm asking total gene. I'm not like trying to like,

997
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, stir up some mold. I have no idea.

998
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he's had times where he just didn't want

999
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: to do the daily grind and and and and and

1000
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: I respect that there's been times and it is a grind.

1001
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: It's a grind. But you know, my father worked in radio.

1002
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: But before but you appreciate this because you probably remember this.

1003
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: My father was the was the general manager of w

1004
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: k TO Mellow ninety two, which then became w k

1005
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: to You Disco ninety Disco ninety two, Paco Baby Roscoe

1006
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: that one. So I grew up around a radio station.

1007
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I mean I was little, but

1008
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: you know, like I understand some of the way and

1009
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: the structure of the radio business. It is a business,

1010
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just not learning the radio business. Yeah, well,

1011
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a funk and it's changed so

1012
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: fucking much because when when I was a kid, radio

1013
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: was king. There was just you know, a handful of

1014
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: station here and and it's a fucking now. It's like

1015
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: you got fucking people in the living room doing podcasts

1016
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: and it's a sort of a form of a and radio.

1017
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: I just gangstraed my way in, to be honest with you,

1018
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: because I had a magazine that I was publishing, and

1019
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: then when the magazine, when when I closed the magazine down,

1020
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to try and take Star and buck While

1021
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: to Hollywood, California, and I because I had been writing

1022
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: for four years at the Source, I wanted to be

1023
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: a writer and let's move to l A. And then

1024
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: I got into Hot ninety seven and I said, give

1025
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: me that fucking morning show. And then I been stuck

1026
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: in yok ever since. Two more questions, And I know

1027
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: you don't like to go into old school, and you

1028
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: don't even have to be specific in in the in

1029
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: the Hot period, was there ever a time where you

1030
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: and I don't even know, like, if you said to

1031
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: me name some of starring buck Wild's you know, biggest contraries,

1032
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. I just remembered that they happened.

1033
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Was there ever a time where you guys were like, funk,

1034
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have said that. Was there ever a time

1035
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: when you were like fuck man? And now you you

1036
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: kind of got to own it? And then also the

1037
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: trouble ensuit, which one there was nothing nothing, I don't

1038
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: regret anything, but but but did you ever go fuck

1039
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: like or or or like find out something and after

1040
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: the fact and be like a man? I didn't realize

1041
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: that no, no, no respect. And I don't I don't

1042
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: say that to be to be cocky, overly arrogant. I

1043
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: didn't care enough about the genre. I got you to

1044
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: even think like that. I got you. Do you think

1045
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: you would have had the same attitude if you had

1046
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: started in two thousand on a classic rock station but

1047
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: you were sort of putting? Would you have sort of

1048
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: been the same personality if they had put to it?

1049
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Because you respect that, johnre Moore, I think that's a

1050
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: good thing. I think I think my approach would have

1051
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: been different. Okay, my approach would have been different. But but

1052
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: but watching the decline of heavy metal, because I was

1053
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: a big metal hit, big metal hit, yes, I mean

1054
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: dan Zig, fucking you know, Race r X. You know,

1055
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk you're you know, I mean,

1056
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: you know, man O War Panthera. Did you ever get

1057
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: a punk rock? Was that punk rock? Shit? No? No?

1058
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 1: But punk rock what was was like just a little

1059
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: too sloppy for me. It was still too sloppy. It

1060
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: was a little too dirty. And you know, heavy metal

1061
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: was more you know, just my I'll just say my thing. Um,

1062
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: I think my approach would have would have been different,

1063
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: but I am who I am, and I would have

1064
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: been critiquing heavy metal, you know, similar to how I

1065
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: similar not not the same way, but similar to how

1066
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: I critiqued hip hop. I got you. But I had

1067
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: a lot of genuine love for like Vivian Campbell, who

1068
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: played with Ronnie James Dio, Jakie Lee who played with

1069
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne. That was your yeah, you know, um um,

1070
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: the the the Smiths, you know, Morrissey I had. I

1071
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: had a lot a lot of respect for Steve Harris

1072
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: who played bass for Iron Maiden, Judas Priest. But I

1073
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: would have critiqued them, but I don't think that it

1074
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: would have needed the type of critiquing that hip hop

1075
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: need needed, and kneeds. Hip hop is the genre of

1076
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: the babies leading the babies explain that, well, when you

1077
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: don't have a council, parameters and guidelines, you cannot classify

1078
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: yourself as a fucking culture. And I say that respectfully. Again,

1079
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: I love what Public Enemy has done, boogie down productions,

1080
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: great efforts, awesome catalogs, But the separation of this whole

1081
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: old school ship technology, that is what hurt hip hop

1082
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: in such a way, in such a way, and it's

1083
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's almost like, you know, the

1084
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: young kids look at someone who brought knowledge into the

1085
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: game during the Golden era, they looked down upon Its terrible.

1086
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: And that's that's why. And I heard you say something

1087
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: about like how um old school rocks it becomes classic

1088
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: rock and and and you know, I hate it. And

1089
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to name names. When I see some

1090
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: of these old school artists quote unquote old school artists

1091
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: or these these legends that I really they really are

1092
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: Like I saw rock him, and you know when he

1093
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: was rock him at his highest, you never saw him

1094
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: like he was like, you know, he he kept a

1095
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: low profile. I saw him in real life. I was

1096
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: and I'm forty four and I've met a lot of motherfucker's,

1097
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: but I was like tripping out that I saw rock him, like,

1098
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this guy should be living like like

1099
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: a great artist, like Robert de Niro, Pablo Picasso, fucking anybody,

1100
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Laurence Olivia, Marlon Brando. These people should be taken care

1101
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: of by the government, like Millie mel should not have

1102
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: hang on because I but, but, but I'm saying the

1103
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: artist eight artists should be taken care of, like you're right,

1104
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: You're right. And if I can just add this, it's

1105
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: not that I have to go behind what you're saying.

1106
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: I think that and I hate to use the term

1107
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: old school, but some of the pioneers are playing themselves now.

1108
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: If you were popery, if you were popping in the

1109
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: eighties and your thing was wearing leather pants and Jerry curls, right,

1110
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: how is it your now fifty plus and you're wearing

1111
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: your pants are sagging and you're wearing your your baseball

1112
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: hat backwards? I agree? Why are you now dressing like

1113
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: an overgrowing adolescent? I agree. It's similar to also so

1114
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: so the kids are looking at you like, wow, you're

1115
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: you're still trying to do what you did years ago,

1116
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: no matter who you are, but you look fucking crazy.

1117
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: You're you're wearing the new exclusive Jordan's and you're fifty

1118
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: three years old, and your feet hurt and you feed hurt,

1119
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: and you you blowed it. You're gray. Yeah, you just

1120
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: had a hit replacement, had a hit replacement. And you're

1121
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: talking about you know, you know, hip hop ain't shipping

1122
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: no more, yah YadA YadA, right, and you're fifty three

1123
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: and you're talking to eighteen year old and it just

1124
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: doesn't work talking to fifteen year olds. And and you know,

1125
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: it's similar to the NBA because the great basketball players

1126
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: that are alive, the Dick Barnett's or old Pearl Monroe,

1127
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: the Jerry Lucas and and all the guys that are

1128
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: still like even Bill Russell, even even you know a

1129
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: Jerry West. I mean he's had a career as as

1130
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: an NBA g M and all that stuff. But you know,

1131
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: there's there's people that are on the top fifty list,

1132
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: whether you agree with it or not, that are struggling.

1133
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: It's and it kills me to see it. And when

1134
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: I interviewed a lot of dudes from the the when

1135
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: I did when the Garden was eating, I mean, these

1136
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: guys had jobs while they were stars, while they were

1137
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: playing at All Star games, and you know, you see

1138
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: him now and they live they live very humble lives.

1139
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: It's so similar to to the rappers, and you know whatever,

1140
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: it's I just hate fucking seeing it. I hate seeing

1141
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's that I loved and so many other people

1142
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: loved and that changed the world. Really because without fucking

1143
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: Big Daddy, Kane, Caress, one Rock Cam Tribe day, whoever

1144
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: the funk you like, there would be no black president.

1145
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Hip hop. I'm sorry you took my

1146
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: President Obama, there would be no President Obama. I think

1147
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: that hip hop had a humongous mike. I've enjoyed my statement.

1148
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: Can I please say, get the funk out of here.

1149
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: You don't do you not think that hip hop influenced

1150
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: President Obama. Hop had nothing to do with Obama winning.

1151
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: The way, the music, the influence, the theusion white liberals

1152
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: voted President Obama into office. Hip Hop has got no power.

1153
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: It's powerless, not hip hop. But I'm saying in terms

1154
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: of the vote, it was a younger vote, it was

1155
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: a black vote. Am I wrong? A right? I know

1156
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: you no facts, but I am I wrong? Room already.

1157
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: That's why we could do some ship together. A young vote, yes,

1158
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: but a hip hop vote, get the fun. But the

1159
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: young vote is a hip hop vot. Wouldn't you say that?

1160
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: What don't you say everybody under forty has, at one

1161
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: point or another loved even if it was just one

1162
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: rap song. A young vote, but but a hip hop vote. No,

1163
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: the young vote is a hip hop vote. Just like

1164
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: in the sixties, the young vote was a radical you know,

1165
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: you would say in terms of musicality, the the the

1166
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: the protesters, the Vietnam protesters, you would say that was

1167
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: the Beatles. That was the role. Didn't have his pants

1168
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: sagging and his head on back was talking about yo

1169
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo. But do you understand what liberals

1170
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,479
Speaker 1: voted because they were tired of of sucking the Bush

1171
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: administration and those that were gonna come after Bush and

1172
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: I'll keep it, you know, five hundle with you. I

1173
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: voted for John Cheney and that fucking nut job Sarah Palin.

1174
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: I also voted admit, Rodney, but you don't think but

1175
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: like these hipsters, these young liberal hipsters. Okay they hipsters, yes,

1176
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: but hip hop no, No, but those hipsters hip hop

1177
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: is powerless. I'm not saying that, but you know you understand.

1178
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, jay Z. I know you just said hip

1179
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: hop has power, but in my opinion, is fucking powerless.

1180
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. All Right, We're eve been talking for so

1181
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: fucking long that I think we're gonna have to pick

1182
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: this up another time. First of all, I want to

1183
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: say thank you for talking and thank you. Good good

1184
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: to meet you man, thank you for having me. Next

1185
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 1: time we'll talk about why the beast Boys are such

1186
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: trash and they always have been. I cannot wait to

1187
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: talk about why the Beastie Boys are such trash always been.

1188
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: I p to Adam, Yes, yeah, no, I didn't know them. Welcome,

1189
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: but I respected the ship out of him. But I

1190
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: can't for the other ship. Here here, here's here's the thing.

1191
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to my final question. This is

1192
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: one of my first questions. If you had to bring

1193
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: you had to, you have no choice. Three albums you

1194
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: have you picked your five albums that we're gonna end

1195
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: this on this if you had to on your your

1196
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: you're you're going to an island for the rest of

1197
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: the life. And they said, we don't care if you

1198
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: have an opinion about this, you have to bring that.

1199
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna hate this question. You brought your five albums

1200
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: and now you have to bring three hip hop albums.

1201
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: What three hip hop albums would you bring on that

1202
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: trip for the rest of your life? These is always

1203
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: you're forced to bring them. Come on, you can't tell

1204
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: me three that's the rest of your life, man, Public enemy, okay,

1205
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: public enemy, you have a black planet? Yes? Um? Jungle

1206
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: Brothers okay, first Younger Brothers album was the second one

1207
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: on Warner Brothers. Um, it wasn't straight out the Jungle.

1208
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: I was the first one. Okay, I forget that it

1209
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: might have been Jungle Brothers. Okay, it was straight out

1210
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: the Jungle was my ship, Okay, that was my the

1211
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: third one because I didn't funk with that ship and

1212
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: don't funk okay, okay, okay, the third one. Yes, any

1213
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: album or c D by gang Stary, good respect the

1214
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: DJ Premier r I P Guru. Of course you cannot

1215
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: even claim I don't care who you are how old

1216
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: you are, how young you are. You cannot claim to

1217
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: be in tune with hip hop if you don't own

1218
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: a gang star c d oh, no fucking jump off

1219
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: a building. If you don't yourself jump off a building.

1220
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: Put the mossburg in your mouth and do the lord's work.

1221
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: And there is no god. I said that respectfully. He said,

1222
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: there was ding ding nick nick nick. I gotta put

1223
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: the ding dinging. I gotta put the the star thing

1224
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: thing again to me, Jungle Brothers, And now let me

1225
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna you gotta go, you gotta go. I'm

1226
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: gonna go. But I just want to say this because

1227
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: I hope he's listening. This fucking guy Alias, Who your guy? DJ?

1228
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: He just said who? You heard him say who? Alias?

1229
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: I tried to give you some shout out here. Now,

1230
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: this cocksucker Alias, And I say that affectionately. Can why

1231
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: doesn't he ever stick his face on the camera? And also,

1232
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, you're you're you, You're an articulate you know

1233
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: you you you speak passing, mother fucker, finish the sentence,

1234
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: hang on. First of all, respect to the man that

1235
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: holds me down. We're out in no man's land. Yes,

1236
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: Alias is probably the most dedicated DJ I have ever

1237
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: met in my life, no doubt, I'm sure. But I

1238
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: want this guy to show his face every now and

1239
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: because he does what he wants, that he plays his position. Okay,

1240
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: he's a he's a friend. Yes, any radio station would

1241
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: be honored to have a DJ slash employee like DJ Alias.

1242
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: I've seen people up at a hot ninety seven not

1243
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: respect the craft, get lazy, floated, fat and gray, and

1244
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: they lose their fucking stamina. Elias motivates me, and I'm

1245
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: very fortunate to have DJ Elias as as my my

1246
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: co pilot. Okay, good, alright. I expect to give him

1247
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: some some some love because I funk with you, guys hard,

1248
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of. He could not be doing what

1249
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: it is I'm doing right now without him, because he's

1250
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: so dedicated, all right, somebody else, somebody else would have

1251
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: fucking caved in right after six months of launching. I

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Speaker 1: could imagine what it is that I do. I could imagine.

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Speaker 1: And I want to say one more thing, because you've

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Speaker 1: been taking steps at the jews here since we sat down.

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Speaker 1: I want to say respect to my homie, my dear friend.

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Speaker 1: He's not my jew friend. He's my friend who happens

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Speaker 1: to be a jew. DJ Flat Okay, yes, DJ Flat

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Speaker 1: is good too. All right, yo, this is the Iron

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Speaker 1: rapp Core Podcast. It's a pleasure that real pleasures. Pleasure

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Speaker 1: talk to you, and uh we're out. We did pent

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Speaker 1: in wet to be in wet intent with Pat