1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Did he party cocktail, cocaine and horse trenk that's horse tranquilizer. 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Did he actually feed this to his guests? 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: This while Shawn Combs's mother drops a bombshell good evening. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm mean, see Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: for being with us. 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: The biggest secret in the entertainment industry. The wall of 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: silence has now been broken. 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Victims are coming forward. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: We now represent one hundred and twenty individuals against Sean Diddycombs, 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: as well as claims against many other individuals and entities. 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: The names that we're going to name are names that 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: will shock you. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: We understand that a lot of Hollywood celebrities are shaking 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: in their boots because they know they are going to 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: be named, not by the Feds, by the civil lawyer Buzzby. 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: And remember this, the prosecutors are held to a certain 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: ethical duty as prosecutors sivil. The civil arena is a 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: whole another animal. There is nothing to stop Busby from 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: naming celebs, taking names. 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: And naming them out loud. 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: So we're waiting for the other shoe to drop this 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: as we learn that Diddi's party cocktail that's certainly putting 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: perfume on the pig. Some people call it the rape cocktail, 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: their words, not mine, includes cocaine and horse trenk. 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: Listen several of the individuals, and when I say several, 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: I mean many who did in fact seek medical treatment. 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: We're drug testing and drugs were found in their system. 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: We're drugs, drugs that you've probably never heard of. One 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: in particular that continues to pop up is a drug 31 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: called xilacy for shrink, which based on our research, is 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: known as a horse. 33 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: Trank, horse tranquilizer. If it knocks out a horse, what 34 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: does it do to a lady? Say average way one 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: oh five to one five? What does that do to 36 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: a human being? You heard Tony Busby, the civil lawyer 37 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: who is getting thousands and thousands of calls on a 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: deity hotline, refer to xylazine known as trenk. It's a 39 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: veterinary tranquilizer. It's found in illicit drugs, and this is 40 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: what we've learned from. 41 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Speaking to experts. 42 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 2: It slows breathing, heart rate, blood pressure to dangerously low levels. 43 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: It's very hard to reverse. 44 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Overdose reversal meds like narcan do not reverse the effects 45 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: of xylazine. In other words, for instance, Prince when he 46 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: odeed on an opiate, possibly fentinel nar can, if he 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: had had it would have saved his life. If you 48 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: od on xylozine, there is not a drug reversal antidote. 49 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel to makes sense of 50 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: what we know tonight. But first straight out to Alex 51 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: West joining us investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror. 52 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: Alex, thank you for being with. 53 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: Us horse trunk and cocaine at a party and guest 54 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: reportedly didn't know that they were being drugged with that. 55 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've heard that over and over again in all 56 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 5: this not all, but at least a good part of 57 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 5: the civil lawsuit stuff come forward so far. We don't 58 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: yet know how many of the one and twenty that 59 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: Busby is planning on filing. 60 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 6: We'll involve those drugs. 61 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 5: It's also worth noting that when did he was over 62 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: us sit in the hotel room, allegedly there was a 63 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 5: pink powder, an unidentified pink powder that was found in 64 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: his hotel room. 65 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me. 66 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Renown psycho analysts joining us out of LA author of 67 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: deal breaker. You can see her now on pecot Bethany. 68 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: I think twice before I even take a baby aster 69 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: for Pete's sake. 70 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: It's one thing if you take the drugs, but. 71 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: Drugging someone else, especially without their knowledge, and using something 72 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: as volatile as this drug xylazine I believe it's called. 73 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 6: Well, keep in mind the. 74 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 7: Xylazine because it's a horse tranquilizer causes amnesia, what we 75 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 7: call antrolgrade amisia, meaning that the victim won't remember what 76 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 7: happened while they are on that drug, and the cocaine 77 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 7: keeps them active enough that they can participate in sex 78 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 7: acts outside of their conscious awareness. So this is a 79 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 7: very sinister thing to do to people. And then remember 80 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 7: he was taping the victims the whole time. So who 81 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 7: would do this a psychopath, associate, path, somebody who has 82 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 7: no regard for others, somebody who's a sadist as we've 83 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 7: been talking about that the infliction of cruelty makes him 84 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 7: sexually aroused, that he enjoys doing that and putting them 85 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 7: in humiliating positions. And then Nancy's stalking them after this 86 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 7: because once he tapes them on the xylazine and the cocaine. 87 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 7: It appears as if they're voluntarily participating in the sex 88 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 7: acts so that he can use that video against them 89 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 7: and stalk them for the rest of their lives. 90 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: Eric Fantasy is joining me. 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Are now in trial lawyer, TV Legal analyst, partner at 92 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Varner Fattist Elite Legal, former felony prosecutor. 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Eric, thank you for being with us. 94 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: We keep hearing about sex attacks on victims, but here 95 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: this is a serious aggravated assault. We typically think under 96 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 2: the law of aggravated assaults, which in MENI jurisdictions carry 97 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: twenty to life behind bars, as shooting somebody with a 98 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: gun or stabbing them they live. It's described as putting 99 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: someone in fear of serious bodily harm, immediate fear. But 100 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: in this case, it's not a knife, it's not a gun. 101 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: It's horse trunk mixed with cocaine. That's the allegation. That's 102 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: a whole another set of felony charges that if this 103 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: has proven, could nail ditty. 104 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 8: Yeah. 105 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 9: Now, I mean the allegations are pretty senisor here, and 106 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 9: the difference is that they're allegend that it's sexual assault 107 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 9: by co worship, so overcoming someone's will and that's where 108 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 9: these drugs come into play. Allegedly, they allowed ditty to 109 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 9: make sure that the victim could not consent, but also 110 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 9: could not defend themselves, really didn't know exactly what was 111 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 9: going on, but was present enough to participate in the 112 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 9: alleged sex acts. And so yeah, that is the allegation here, 113 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 9: and it's certainly problematic for doing. 114 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Joining me right now. 115 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: Death investigator for forensics at Jacksonville State University, author of 116 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: Blood Beneath My Feet and star of a hit series 117 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Just Scott, what is 118 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: horse trying? I mean, look, if it knocks out a horse, 119 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: what will it do to a person? 120 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 8: Take them down to their knees? Nancy, Xylazine is specifically 121 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 8: what they're referring to in this particular case, and so 122 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 8: it's used. It's a non opiate related substance. So you're 123 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 8: not talking about something necessarily like a sentinel here, like 124 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 8: some kind of synthetic synthetic opiate. What we're talking about 125 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 8: is something that is expressly meant to use on equines, 126 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 8: which are horses, in order to sedate them for surgery. 127 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 8: So yeah, it can be. And here's another thing, with zoli. 128 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 8: It can in fact be mixed with fentanyl, which makes 129 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 8: it particularly dangerous. And they're seeing this out on the 130 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 8: streets now, So this is something that's been around for minutes, 131 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 8: but it is something that certainly the DEA is aware of. 132 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: Guys joining me is death investigator, forensic expert just gott 133 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Morgan now joining me. Cheryl McCollum joining us from the field, 134 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: also forensic expert, host of a hit series Zone seven, 135 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: and founder of. 136 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: The Cold Case Research Institute. Cheryl, help me think this through. 137 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: My immediate reaction is, you can't prove it to a 138 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: reasonable doubt, beyond a reasonable doubt, so. 139 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Don't put it in the pot. 140 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: You know how it ruins the case when you have 141 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: one week link the week's sister in the case. 142 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: You have to get rid of that, you have to 143 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: cut it out. 144 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: But is there a way to prove to prove it, 145 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: not just rumor not just any into not what one 146 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: thousand people say, It doesn't matter because if they don't 147 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: know what the substance is clinically scientifically, Look, let me 148 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: put it like this. Okay, when I try a coat case, Okay, 149 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: we'd do a bus there'd be a drug lord, we'd 150 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: find the false wall. The fake wall would find all 151 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: the money and the drugs behind the wall. The dog 152 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: would find it. I can't just say, hey, I found 153 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of white powder. 154 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: Convict him. 155 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: All the defense would have to do is say, you 156 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: know what he hoards baby powder? You think can say anything, 157 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: But if you can't prove what the substance was, you 158 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: don't have a case. Did you hear what Joe Scott 159 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Morgan just said that at the raid on Diddy's home. 160 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: What if that yielded horse trank? What can we do 161 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: with that? 162 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 10: Cheryl McCollum, There's four things you can weave together. One, 163 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 10: some of these victims salt medical treatment, those medical records 164 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 10: and the result of that blood work they can get. 165 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 10: Got eyewitnesses at these parties, perhaps they saw it. Number Three, 166 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 10: you've got the person that made the purchase. Keep in mind, 167 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 10: did he didn't go out on the street and get 168 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 10: cocaine and trunk? He didn't. And all these folks that 169 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 10: are associated with him that are now under this microscope, 170 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 10: they are going to learn. Whoever talks first gets the deal. 171 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 10: Somebody may very well come forward and explain what went 172 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 10: down on top of what was sees during these raids, 173 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 10: So all four of those things can paint again. 174 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl. 175 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: I can have fifty cops say I saw him sell 176 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: a hit, but if it's not tested at the laft, Cheryl, 177 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: you still don't have a case. 178 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: Period. I hear what you're saying. Do you know he 179 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: used it? Yes? Do I believe he used horse train convictims? Yes? 180 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: Does Joe Scott Yes? Did they find it in his mansion? 181 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: Maybe let's just pretend yes. I still can't prove what 182 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: substance was administered to those partygoers unless they were tested 183 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: at the hospital and it. 184 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Showed up crime stories with Nancy Grace, Just got Morgan 185 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: joining me. 186 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: I want to follow up, and I appreciate what you said, Cheryl, 187 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: And yes, I would put it on my board proving guilt. 188 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: But it's not enough to bring a horse trank case. 189 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: It's just not enough against Diddy. We have to be realistic. 190 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: We don't want to ruin the rest of the case. Again, 191 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: Just got Morgan. I'm talking about horse trunk being used 192 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: on these victims without their knowledge. 193 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: What about this? 194 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: A horse trank victim has stated and I'll only call 195 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: her Jessica, it eats your skin away and you just 196 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: have a hole and then it leaves a scar. I know, 197 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: horse train can cause ulcers, can cause actually like holes 198 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: in your skin. 199 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Why. 200 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: I mean, look, my first cousin is a horse trainer. 201 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: Horses are huge. How much do they weigh, Jackie? I 202 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: mean hundreds and hundreds of pounds? You know about Google, right, 203 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: what Liz oh, dear Lord in Heaven, two thousand pounds. 204 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: If that can knock out a horse, what does it 205 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: do to a person? So why would this trunk cause ulcers? Cause, 206 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: as Jessica said, holes in her skin. 207 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you I have. 208 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 8: Not heard this before, but I have heard something similar 209 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 8: to this, and I know that covering drug cases, you've 210 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 8: encountered this with people that use injectables. If they skin pop, 211 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 8: for instance, which means they don't go into a vein, 212 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 8: they actually go into the subc fat and they start 213 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 8: to inject. This way, you can have ulcerated areas that 214 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 8: will appear. So was this drug being administered with a syringe? 215 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 8: Because I got to tell you it doesn't sound like 216 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 8: the normal course when you're trying to administer something that 217 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 8: is the equivalent of it's serving the same function as 218 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 8: a date breaking drug, so you would administer it orally. 219 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 8: So is she saying that it burned a hole in 220 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 8: her mouth. I've had cocaine overdoses before, when people quote 221 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 8: with chronic cocaine problems that died and the septument the 222 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 8: nose would ulcerate and you would have that kind of reaction, 223 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 8: But that's over a protracted period of time. This almost 224 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 8: sounds like if that's what she If we are to believe. 225 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: The streame Michael Jackson and his nose falling apart. 226 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 8: Well, no, I think that that. Maybe I can't speak 227 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 8: to that, but I know for a fact I've done 228 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 8: or participated in investigations and autop with individuals that had 229 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 8: eroded septims as a result of what they were saying. 230 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: This symptom is that cartilage in the middle of your nose, right. 231 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 8: That's split your nostrils into yeah, and so you'll get 232 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 8: that ulcerated area there. But many times, you know, because 233 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 8: these drugs are cut with things, all right, you don't 234 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 8: know what the agent is in there that they're cutting it. 235 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 8: And the idea here is just so our friends understand, 236 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 8: they try to extend the life of the drug that 237 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 8: they have, so you don't know what the skin is 238 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 8: coming in contact with. Nancy. 239 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I know, Joe Scott from the 240 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: National Institute on Drug Abuse. Xylazin, which is horse trunk, 241 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: which reportedly did he's feeding to his guests in order 242 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: to sex assault them unbeknownst to them, is associated with 243 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: skin wounds, open sorees, ulcers, and abscesses. Now, while his 244 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: party victims are suffering potential skin wounds, open sores, and obsesses, 245 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: he's not worried. 246 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: He's relaxing with some mango people. Check it out with 247 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: the back up. 248 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 7: I ain't expect I don't want it. 249 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 11: I wanted bet you know me, I allow myself to 250 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 11: not have lingo. 251 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 8: I don't know long way no better. 252 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Thanks Diddy for that INSTA. 253 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: These people who know who they are should just come 254 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: forward now. I would imagine as we speak here, there 255 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: are a myriad of people who are very nervous. You 256 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: can't hide skeletons in the closet forever. I would expect 257 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: there are many people out there right now who are 258 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: who are desperately searching your memories as they delete your 259 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: texts and data. 260 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: We are learning that his Tony Busby's hotline was besieged 261 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: with twelve thousand calls and just twenty four hours after 262 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: our last program, twelve thousand calls in twenty four hours, 263 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: less than twenty four hours. I wonder if any of 264 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: those calls were from Hollywood celebrities. 265 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: Listen, if you were attending one of these parties, if 266 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: you will, and you attended before, or you knew what 267 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: was going to happen. That is, you knew that a 268 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: particular drug was being used in drinks that was causing 269 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: people to be coerced and taken advantage of, and you 270 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: were there in the room, or you participated, or you 271 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: watched it happen and didn't say anything, or you helped 272 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: cover it up. In my view, you have a problem. 273 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's to you Celebrits in Hollywood. That is Tony 274 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Busby the attorney speaking. And we were given that from 275 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: our friend Harvey Levin at TMZ, Lynn Sawe joining me 276 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: founder or director LYNZ Warriors Dedicated to Ending Sexual Exploitation. 277 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Lynn twelve thousand thousand calls in twenty four hours after 278 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: our last program, Horse Trunk Cocaine rape cocktail dump in Land. 279 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 6: I don't even know where to start with this, but 280 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 6: bring back doctor Bethany right now because I need a 281 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 6: shrink over this dirty ditty. First of all, let's focus 282 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 6: on this xylazine. Anybody. Has anybody seen the images coming 283 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 6: out of Kensington, Pennsylvania, because that is what traditionally media 284 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: shows you. People just flat out in the streets, bend 285 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: over from the waste, nobody immobilize, nobody moving. 286 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 8: Now. 287 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 6: I know this is a family program, Nancy. However, we 288 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 6: are hearing it's injected also anally mixed with other drugs, 289 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 6: rendering people they can't move, So let's talk about that. 290 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 6: And yes, we work with law enforcement here at the Warriors, 291 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 6: and they tell us this is the biggest thing going 292 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 6: on dea also that they don't know what to do 293 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 6: about this trenk. It makes your skin fall off. We 294 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 6: have seen this over and over again, so this dirty 295 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 6: diddy doing. 296 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: This to people. 297 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 6: But again, we have to stick with the facts. So 298 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 6: we've got plenty of facts. We've got twelve thousand people 299 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 6: that have come forward. We always start with that the 300 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 6: Warriors believe the victim and then cut it. 301 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: Down from there. 302 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 6: But twelve thousand and last week we heard thirty to 303 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 6: eighty five. And I also want to focus always on 304 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 6: what we're reported to be miners at the time and 305 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 6: men and boys. We are not putting the focus on 306 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 6: that because we at the Warriors think this may just 307 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: be a whole sex trafficking operation geared towards miners and men. 308 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 6: That's what we think. 309 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't see it. 310 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: Alex O West joining me investigative an entertainment reporter with 311 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: the Mirror. 312 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: I hear what Linna is saying. 313 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: At first, I did not accept that there were child victims, 314 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: alleged child victims. 315 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: But then when I saw one after. 316 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: The next, after the next, after the next, and so 317 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: on of allegations about particular child victims and how they 318 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: were trying to break into the business and they get 319 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: to know Combs and then they're assaulted, I mean, are 320 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: they all lying? I find that very difficult to believe. 321 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: I wonder was it the persona that he projected that 322 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: makes you think he would not be interested in children? 323 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: What about it, alex West? 324 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean one of the things that he 325 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 5: did do in terms of getting close to children, he 326 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 5: was on Sesame Street, so things like that. You have 327 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 5: to remember that he was a mentor to people. At 328 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: no point did it seem like, you know, he would 329 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 5: be nefarious towards children, which is why. 330 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 6: You might be hesitant to believe it. 331 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: But when you look at the numbers, there are allegedly 332 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: twenty five miners within the one hundred and twenty that 333 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 5: busby is a place to file and some of those 334 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 5: are very particular stories. So there was a nine year 335 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: old a part of these these allegations as well. So, 336 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 5: like you said, we start seeing like a pattern, We 337 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 5: start seeing these stories. 338 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: Over and over again. 339 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 5: And whether or not they're true, I can't speak to. 340 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 5: But we have seen that he was a mentor to 341 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 5: younger people, and that we do know. There's justin Bieber, 342 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 5: there's him peer in a sesame street. There's so many 343 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 5: times of him being around children. 344 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 345 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 12: In both Adams and Cottam's interviews with the music mogul, 346 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 12: pr Reps kept a close eye on the interview and 347 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 12: always steered the conversations back to Comb's successful business ventures. 348 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 12: Condam says Combs sounded like a child, describing himself as 349 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 12: young and sexy despite being a fifty one year old 350 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 12: father of six. Colum says her profile centered around Combe's 351 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 12: rebrand to Love, which Cottam now calls a psychopath move 352 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 12: to get ahead of the allegations he knew were coming. 353 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 13: Reports are circulating that a video depicting sex sects between 354 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 13: Sean Didty Combs and a younger male A List celebrities 355 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 13: being shot to several Let's. Sources close to the A 356 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 13: listers say it's triggering, resurfacing disturbing memories for the star. 357 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 13: Those who have seen the video claim it clearly shows 358 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 13: both Combs and the A lister's faces, and it does 359 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 13: not appear the celebrity pictured with Combs realizes they are 360 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 13: being recorded. 361 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: Wow, A celebrity, A lister, A young male claiming that 362 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: the Didy indictments and all the media swirling around those 363 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: indictments is quote triggering. 364 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: Him a young male. 365 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: This as Sean Combe's mother drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming 366 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: the Feds for her son's allegations and the alleged victims, 367 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: blaming the Feds and the victims, referring to the indictment 368 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: as a so called lynching. But first back to the 369 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: young male A List celeb We keep hearing and seeing 370 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: Justin Bieber's name and photo attached to Ditty. 371 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 1: He is a husband and a new father. 372 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure he does not want to be attached to 373 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: Sean Puffy Combs. 374 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: Listen. 375 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 14: Justin Bieber's long relationship with Ditty is being examined under 376 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 14: a new light since the disturbing allegations against Sean Colmb's. 377 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 14: Friends close to Bieber say he's finally opening up about 378 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 14: his nightmare experience with the mogul and the private hell 379 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 14: it's caused him. The pop star says he doesn't want 380 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 14: anyone going through what he went through, joining the industry 381 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 14: at such a young age, claiming years of therapy and 382 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 14: leaning on faith to battle his demons. 383 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: We have been told that Bieber and his wife have 384 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: become devout Christians. The last thing he needs is this 385 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: dredged up and thrown in his face. 386 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear. 387 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: To anyone suggesting that Bieber is somehow the culprit in 388 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: this scenario, I believe you are sorely mistaken. Bieber was 389 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: just a boy when he was thrown in the pot 390 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: with Combs to steal. Take a listen to what happened 391 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: with our friend Jimmy Kimmel Live. 392 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 11: I started to lamb Beginni for a day or two, 393 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 11: any access to the house, and he knows better than 394 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 11: be talking about the things that he does with Big 395 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 11: Brother Puff on national television. 396 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: Not funny, Okay, that's when Jimmy Kimmel live back to 397 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: Alex West joining US investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror. 398 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't like seeing Bieber's picture and name bandied about 399 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: as if he has done something wrong. 400 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: Did you see him in that video. He's a little boy. 401 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: He's just kind of sitting there smiling, And I don't 402 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: like the implication of he knows better than me talking 403 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: about things he does with Big Brother Puff on national TV. 404 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: What was going on that this young boy can't talk about. 405 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious, Alex. 406 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all really been quite kept quiet, even before 407 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 5: these allegations came out. I mean, like you said, he 408 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: was told from the very beginning not to speak about it. 409 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 5: There's a video going around as well from when Bieber 410 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: was kind of given his custody was given over to Combs, 411 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: but not formally, not legally, but he spent those twenty 412 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 5: four to forty eight hours with him, and then Justin 413 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 5: came out and he has songs where he says that 414 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 5: people saw him sick and no one really cared. He's 415 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: very protective of other especially young women in the industry. 416 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 6: Like Billie Eilish. 417 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 5: We don't know what happened in those hours, but we 418 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 5: do know it's motivated him to be more protective of 419 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: other young people in the industry. 420 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: I'll never forget Alex West having a brush with greatness. 421 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: When I was doing Dancing with the Stars and Bieber 422 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: came one night, no one, nobody. 423 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: Could get close to him. 424 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: He was totally flanked by a phalanx of security and 425 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: he was in the middle and I glanced over at him. 426 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: He was just a little boy. Let's take a look 427 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: at what Alex is talking about. 428 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 6: Where were hanging out and what we're doing. 429 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 11: We can't really disclose, but it's definitely a fifteen year 430 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 11: old's dream and we're gonna go full buck ful crazy. 431 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Going crazy. Really. That's from Bieber's YouTube channel. 432 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: Okay to you, Lynn Shaw, What does that mean a 433 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: fifteen year old's dream? 434 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 6: Well, I can only imagine, Nancy. But here's I have 435 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 6: a lot of questions. Where were his parents? Number one? 436 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 6: Were of the people around the entourage of this dirty ditty. 437 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 6: Where were Where was everybody to protect this little boy? 438 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 6: He's only thirty years old now, listen, I'm in the 439 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 6: middle of New York City. He used to continually just 440 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 6: sell out Madison Square Garden. He was it, and he 441 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 6: was preyed upon, he was brought in. But it's not 442 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 6: only you know. I don't like him being put in 443 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 6: the spotlight like this. We can't help it, right, it's 444 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 6: kind of this low hanging fruit and this is the 445 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 6: name being thrown about. But we hear stories of other 446 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 6: boys that were brought into Bad Boy Entertainment right up 447 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 6: the street from me, the old offices, and part of 448 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 6: their audition process was you have to perform oral sex. 449 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 6: That's the reality. So where was everybody? And I really 450 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 6: want to put. 451 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: The apses hold on land Shap. 452 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: We got to having Justin Baber's name in the same 453 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: sentence as oral sex with combs. Guys back off. We 454 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: keep saying we don't want him to dry Dan Well, 455 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 2: that's dragging him in. But I don't like it because 456 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: he clearly has not made a statement. He's just had 457 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: a new baby, he started a new life. And wouldn't 458 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: you agree, Lynn Shaw that if he had been at 459 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: any of the parties, the free coughs. He was a 460 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: child himself, being at a party would only be victimizing him. 461 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm. 462 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 6: Talking about, Nancy. I didn't say he had oral sex. 463 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 6: I said we heard stories of other boys brought into 464 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 6: the offices. That was part of the audition process. So 465 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 6: I'm saying there were so many people involved in this 466 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 6: horrible behavior. But Justin Bieber was the face, the biggest star, 467 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 6: and nobody protected him at these parties, his parents. Where 468 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: was Justin Bieber's management, this scooter braun that's been running around, 469 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 6: Do a little digging deeper on all of these characters 470 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: that made a lot of money off of Justin Bieber? 471 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 6: Where was everybody? Why aren't we hearing more about them? 472 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 6: The management team, the PR team, the parents, Okay, other 473 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 6: people at these parties. 474 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, Bethany Marshall, She's right. 475 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: I have a saying, screw you and the horse you 476 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: rode in on. 477 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: I don't care about the management and the accountant and 478 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: the agent. To hand your child over, your child, your 479 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: boy too, Combs. Now, I know his dearest dream was 480 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: to break into the industry. I get that, Yes, but 481 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: handing him over to Colms for even a weekend. 482 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 7: Nancy, that's similar to pimping this little boy out. I mean, 483 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 7: Sean Puffy Combs confesses with every tape, every video, every 484 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 7: interview he gives, it's right there. 485 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 6: So obviously the mother. I think Justin was raised by 486 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 6: a single mother. 487 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 7: The mother is seeing these interviews too, isn't she wondering 488 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 7: what P Diddy is referring to a fifteen year old's 489 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 7: dream things we can even talk about here, Nancy? What 490 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 7: if that were your kids and you heard somebody talking 491 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 7: about them like that. 492 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you know what, jail, but don't tempt me. 493 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 6: It's so important. I want to say something very important. 494 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 7: Whoever this celebrity is, whether it's Justin Bieber or anybody else, 495 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 7: who's terrified of these tapes coming out, it needs to 496 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 7: be clear that these are not tapes of this celebrity 497 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 7: having sex with P Diddy. These are tapes of the 498 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 7: celebrity being raped, raped. 499 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: By P Diddy. 500 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: I want to defend Justin Bieber's mother. Now, yes, I disagree. 501 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: I think it was wrong to have Bieber unsupervised with 502 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: Sean Combs. However, the mom was uneducated in the ways 503 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: of show business. When you have a big star come along, 504 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: just like Jackson did. When you have a big star 505 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: come along, take your child under their wings, say I'm 506 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: going to make them a star. 507 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Combs was a king. 508 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: Maker, and we hear tonight that celebrities and others, potential 509 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: witnesses and victims are still afraid of his power, even 510 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: behind bars. Before we come down on Bieber's mother, Yeah, 511 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: you may. 512 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: Not agree with it. Was it wrong? 513 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: Yes, we don't know her thinking. She's not the bad 514 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: guy in this scenario. The bad guy is whoever took 515 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: advantage of Bieber and exposed him to Frea coughs if 516 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: that happened. But don't worry. Tony Busby is not going 517 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: to hold back. He is calling people by names and 518 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: outing them. 519 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: Listen, because it's in the best interests of the victim. 520 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: We attempt to resolve these matters without the filing of 521 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 4: a public lawsuit, and we have done that already. We've 522 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: done that, I would say, you know, with a handful 523 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: of individuals, many of which you've heard of before, and 524 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: we'll continue to do that. That's just a standard process 525 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: that every lawyer in the United States who handles these 526 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: types of cases uses because it's the right way to 527 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: do it. 528 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy gray. 529 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 14: As the question of how many of Shancombe's friends knew 530 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 14: what was going on in the late hours of his parties. 531 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 14: An incident at a party nearly twenty years ago is resurfacing. 532 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 14: Denzel Washington and his wife Pauletta left a two thousand 533 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 14: and three Didty party after a shouting match with Combs. 534 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 14: It's unclear what started the rope, but it ended with 535 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 14: Washington screaming you don't respect anyone, before escorting his wife out. 536 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 14: Washington previously commented on Ditty's parties, get out half an 537 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 14: hour before the devil gets here. 538 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: Well, it looks like at le one celebrity, a lister 539 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: to sel Washington stood up to Ditty, But in the 540 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: last hours, Shawn Comes' mom drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming 541 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: the FEDS for the. 542 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Indictment and the alleged victims. 543 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: Joining me is Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, 544 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: leading a whole fleet of investigators at USPA Security dot Com. 545 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons the last person that will ever give us 546 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: any evidence about Shawncombs is his mother. You ever tried 547 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: to get anything out of a mother I have? It 548 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: did not go well. 549 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 6: We're not going to get anything out of Ditty's mother. 550 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 15: We've seen this in numerous cases, interviewing family of the 551 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 15: persons suspective of committing a crime, and we're not going 552 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 15: to get anything from her. 553 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: You ever tried to interview a defendant's mom. 554 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 15: Absolutely, You see this happen time and time again. When 555 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 15: the defendant's mother is there blaming the victim. You know 556 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 15: she's not going to say anything to help investigators. She's 557 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 15: going to only do things to cover up Diddy's actions. 558 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: Rayvus Gibbons joining us USPA Nationwide Security. I had a 559 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: defendant's mother. They were always on the front row, refusing 560 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: to believe anything bad about the defendant, and she was 561 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: set to take the stand for the defendant. When I 562 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: cross examined her, I thought she was going to jump 563 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: on my back and ride me like a chicken around 564 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: the courtroom. 565 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: Okay, but I. 566 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: Had to do what I had to do. She was 567 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: a witness. I had to cross her, and I showed 568 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: no mercy. Of course, I don't want to make somebody's 569 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: mother cry. But when I'm thinking about is it her 570 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: or the innocent victims? You have to make a choice, right, 571 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: So what's happening and how does that relate to this case? 572 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: Listen? 573 00:33:53,120 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 11: Mean it my mom call Mardulis. She's getting a drip 574 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 11: with me. She's what's uping? 575 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Uh? 576 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, I love you too. 577 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 8: Now she's calling me to strip club. 578 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 11: I don't care. Real she could touch the floor with 579 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 11: her palms, you know. 580 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: Flat Cheryl McCollum joining me, Cold case research investigator, forensic expert. 581 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: Is he doing an IVY drip with his mother? Looks 582 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: like it? 583 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 10: And Nancy, you know, I think some of those twelve 584 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 10: thousand people are gonna say he had things at the men, 585 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 10: like an IVY drip. We're going to see it over 586 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 10: and over these videos. The videos are going to be 587 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 10: a money tree here. And I just want to say 588 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 10: about the videos, this is an old mob tactic. How 589 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 10: do you command complete silence and loyalty? You implicate everybody 590 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 10: there in the crops, so these people know, Hey, if 591 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 10: he goes down, I go down. 592 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I can tell you one 593 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 2: thing I would not be vc woo what go jump in? 594 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? I gotta say one thing here about these ivy drips. 595 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 8: Who in the hell is administering the ivy drips? You're 596 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 8: telling me that P Diddy. P Diddy knows how to 597 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 8: start an IV on somebody. You've got people that are involved, 598 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 8: I think probably with at least baseline medical knowledge here. 599 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 8: And this goes back to these drugs being administered. How 600 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 8: do you get how do you get your hands on 601 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 8: these drugs? How do you know? Why? Why is it 602 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 8: that he would even have IV's in his home, couldn't 603 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 8: minister these drugs? And that makes us even more insidious here. 604 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 8: That you have groups of people, perhaps they're involved in 605 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 8: the helping professions, the healthcare profession that are facilitating this 606 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 8: activity just on his face is something that is so shocking, okaye. 607 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: Coming from regarding the ivys rip, I'm talking about him 608 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: taking his mother to his trip club. 609 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: Now, let me remind everybody, I am not the church lady. 610 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: I don't care how many strip clubs you go to 611 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: and if your mother goes with you to a strip club, 612 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: that's not a felony, Okay. What I care about are 613 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: insinuations made by his mother. And yes, I'm talking about 614 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: you about the victims in this case. 615 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 13: Listen Diddy's mother, Jannis Combs, has broken her silence on 616 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 13: the allegations with a lengthy statement slamming the quote public 617 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 13: lynching of her son. While Comb's admits her son is 618 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 13: far from perfect and has been less than truthful when 619 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 13: it comes to the violent treatment of his ex girlfriend, 620 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 13: Combs claims Ditty is not guilty of the repulsive allegations 621 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 13: and the grave charges leveled against him. Jannis Combs calls 622 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 13: the numerous lawsuits against her son, money grabs and the 623 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 13: federal indictment are results of his legal team's poor handling 624 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 13: of Cassie Ventura's lawsuit. Sean Combs may soon find the 625 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 13: symbolic key to the city of Miami Beach won't open 626 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 13: any doors. 627 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 2: Why you think Sean Puffy Combs gets a flying fig 628 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: about the key to the city being taken back, reneged 629 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: that's the least to his worries joining me in All 630 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: Star panel. 631 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: You know this is very concerning. 632 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 2: That look, I don't like attacking anybody's little old mom 633 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: and the grandma, but uh uh n to Eric fattis 634 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: the last thing I want to hear is Shawn Come's 635 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: mother referring to this federal indictment as a public lynching 636 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: of her son. What about all the alleged victims that 637 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: go to a party, the ladies, the alleged children. 638 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: That go to a party, and these women wake up. 639 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: The next morning with their vagina and their anus aching 640 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: and hurting, and they don't remember what happened. And now 641 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 2: somehow he's the one getting lynched. 642 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. 643 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 9: I mean, pretty strong language, of course from Dinny's mother. 644 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 9: She's trying to be a protective mother here, but I 645 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 9: think it loses sight of the gravity of some of 646 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 9: these allegations. And so we have the criminal case and 647 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 9: we also have the civil case. 648 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: Diddy has these two. 649 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 9: Parallel legal actions that are set to really cripple his 650 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 9: entire empire and potentially put him behind bars for decades 651 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 9: and if not the. 652 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 8: Rest of his life. 653 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: So his mom is trying to come to his defense. 654 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 6: I'm not sure it's the most artful way to do it. 655 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just get real about this, doctor Bethany, I 656 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: need this in a nutshell. She is blaming the Feds, 657 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 2: calling the indictment a public lynching of him, and she's 658 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: also claiming it's all because of Cassie Venturist lawsuit. Uh 659 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: huh No, she's saying that because the lawsuit was not 660 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: handled privately because it went public. 661 00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: Hey, who's fault? 662 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: Who was running down the hotel hallway and nothing but 663 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: a towel meeting the eighteen double l out of Cassie 664 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: Ventura her son. So you don't let me pick it 665 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: out a grandma, Well, so be it. Bring it on, 666 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 2: Janis comms Nancy. 667 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 7: Let's reframe this entire discussion. This is not a mother 668 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 7: protecting her son. This is a mother who potentially acted 669 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 7: in concert with her son. We may find out that 670 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 7: she committed crimes too, that she may have been in 671 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 7: that room, if he took her to strip clubs. What's 672 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 7: to preclude him from bringing her into those scenes? 673 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 6: Those freakofs. Do you know how many. 674 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 7: Mother sons are put behind bars because they act out 675 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 7: crimes together? 676 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 6: And the one thing that we're also. 677 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 2: Mentioning here I do, and the last thing I want 678 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: to hear Lynn Shaw is his mother claiming it's all 679 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: the victim's fault and Cassie Venture's fault and his legal 680 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: team quote poor handling of the Venturia case, and it's the. 681 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: Fed's fault, and it's a victim's fault. 682 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: Wake up, mommy, get your head out of the sand 683 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: and your butt out of the air, look at what 684 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: is happening, and be quiet. Any words of wisdom, Inshaw? 685 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, my words of wisdom are why did Dirty Ditty's 686 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 6: mama even say anything? Why doesn't she just keep her 687 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 6: mouth shut and disappear? I was wondering a couple two 688 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 6: weeks ago. Where is she? She's very quiet. Okay, she's 689 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 6: hiding out now we hear from her. This is so 690 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 6: typical Nancy, always blaming the victim over and over again, 691 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 6: and the burden always falls on us to prove otherwise. 692 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 6: Why is this guy and his entourage and all these 693 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 6: other accomplices right now being given such slack we're even 694 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 6: hearing yesterday. 695 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: I can tell you this, mist Inshaw, and the light 696 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: most favorable to the mother in her misguided effort to 697 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 2: protect her son. 698 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: All mothers would try to protect their child. 699 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: But the lawyer needs to speak to her and tell 700 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: her to quit blaming the victim and the Feds and 701 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: the legal team and everybody but her own son. Guys, 702 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: if you know or think you know anything regarding this case, 703 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: the case is still being assembled. 704 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: Eight eight eight three seven three seven. 705 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 2: Eight eight eight repeat eight eight eight three seven three 706 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 2: seven eight eight eight. We stop and remember Deputy Sheriff 707 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: Matthew Eugenie Yates, Clark County Sheriff's Ohio, shot and killed 708 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 2: in the line of duty, served Clark County fifteen years. 709 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: He leaves behind a distraught wife, Tracy, children Anthony Andrew, 710 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 2: and a Kai American hero. Deputy Sheriff Matthew Eugene Yates. 711 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: End of watch 712 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: Betty Grace signing off goodbye friend.