00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited. 00:00:10 Speaker 2: You here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 1: But you're I guess to my home, you gotta come to be. 00:00:23 Speaker 2: Empty, and I said, no, guess, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineker. I didn't put much thought into what I was gonna say here. I've I've been uh, you know, kind of towing around the idea of a do it yourself at home project, which has just caused me an incredible deal of anxiety. I've really never drilled anything into a wall or even stained a piece of wood, so just this whole idea has sent me into a bit of a spiral. And hopefully you're not going to feel too much of that for me. Hopefully you're feeling nice and not thinking about home projects. Hopefully your home is finished and you feel complete, because right now I want you to enjoy. I want you to feel good because we have a wonderful guest today, the absolutely wonderful it's so funny ots Go Okotsuka yay. Welcome to my said no gifts. Thanks for having me. I'm oh go ahead. I'm gonna go off immediately. That's my you know, my mo is to bring a guest on and just cut them off. 00:01:53 Speaker 4: No, you were going to ask me how are you, which is a very good host thing to do. How are you doing good? Your thoughts made me wonder what you're trying to build over there. 00:02:05 Speaker 3: Oh well, I need night stands. I bought a new bed and I need new night stands. I have some old Ikea ones that you know, when you pull the drawer out, the drawer essentially falls on the floor, that sort of thing, and they look terrible, and so I of course have gotten on Instagram and started looking at you know, there are these these people who have these beautiful homes and they try to make it look so easy. This woman has essentially drilled old She stained old crates and drilled them to her wall. Made it look beautiful and easy. 00:02:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:02:41 Speaker 3: I went and bought some crates, you know, I went all out and went to Michael's. I got them. And now, I mean, just the thought of it, they thought of drilling anything into the wall just sends me into an absolute panic. 00:02:54 Speaker 4: Do you do anything like this? No, not at all. Yeah, I mean when you said Crates Instagram. I was like, Oh, she does this, it's her, you know. Oh I just take like rims from a tires and make it a bookshelf kind of person. Yes, right, what is that called? What is that called just being crafty? 00:03:14 Speaker 3: I guess which I just am not crafty at all. I feel so just pathetic. 00:03:20 Speaker 4: Would you say you're a late bloomer? Now I'm interviewing you, would you say, now, Bridger, would you say you're a late bloomer? 00:03:28 Speaker 3: Made? You're late bloomer, especially when it comes to home improvement projects. I'm a late bloomer. And yeah, you know, I actually growing up like every single Saturday we had to do like at home project that our dad would be directing, and I didn't develop a single skill from that. And I think this is some of the panic that I get into, or I think back, Yeah, you know, the ten or so years of just home projects that I didn't learn a skill from, and I freak out. 00:04:01 Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, And if I were your therapist, you know, I would ask Nat, I would ask next, you know, why did you freak out when your dad was teaching these you know, arts and crafts time? You know. But then because I'm not your therapist. I'm not going to ask you that, but I actually have been thinking about why I'm a late bloomer too, and it always goes back to like, you know, when I was a kid, blah blah, blah blah blah. I feel like I mean, obviously, I don't know. I'm not a therapist. 00:04:29 Speaker 3: But and in what ways when you say late bloomer, what what do you feel like You're just in general you're a late bloomer or are there specific areas in your life where you feel like you were behind the curve? 00:04:41 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, honestly, anything that has to do with making your life easier, whether it's like being organized or even some are more tangible, like using a dishwasher right washer dry. I didn't know how to use those things. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: You just recently learned to use a dishwasher. Yeah, actually I have What was that process like. 00:05:08 Speaker 4: Well, the husband said, hey, here's the autumn button, and then the tide pods. You know I had seen. I knew about the tide pods, but like where to put it? Of course, you know, so where to put it, turn it on and then and that's it while your dishes are done. But but I don't know. I don't know if there was like a magical more you know, and like more steps to it. Right. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: Well, we just moved and our new dishwasher doesn't seem to be doing that fantastic of a job. And I feel like I know how to load a dishwasher, but the plates are not getting clean. I don't know what what could I possibly be? I mean, there's an on button and an off button. 00:05:46 Speaker 4: What am I doing wrong? 00:05:47 Speaker 3: And it feels so inadequate? How can I get this? Not get this in? 00:05:51 Speaker 4: Going? Must be the tide pod, That's what a commercial would tell you. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do look like I got a discount tide pod, so maybe that is the problem. 00:06:00 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, see now we can learn that part together, like whether whether like you do need to get a more expensive kind of tiede pod. I don't know. I don't know that stuff, you know. 00:06:12 Speaker 3: I just that stuff always feels like marketing gimmicks to me. 00:06:16 Speaker 4: Well, of course, yeah for sure, Yeah, you know, Yeah, that's that's what I did. I grew up anti anti the man. 00:06:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is entirely just being anti establishment, that's it's not It's. 00:06:28 Speaker 4: Not because I had a schizophrenic mom that didn't teach me these things. It's because I was like, nope, I'm not going to fall for you know, capitalism. Okay, that's why I don't know about these brands or any of these chores and how to do them. 00:06:43 Speaker 3: Or do you feel like you're uh integrating these into your life pretty well at this point or do you still feel like a mess. 00:06:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm slowly. You know, when ultimatums come, I'm forced to integrate them. You know, when friends go osco be on time or it's over. I have no choice. I have no choice. 00:07:03 Speaker 3: Have you gotten that far in with a friend where you've like shown up so late so many times they've gotten mad at you? 00:07:09 Speaker 4: Oh for sure, for sure. Really, but I'm truly like, imagine a person who's been living under a rock and then finally they like I don't know, they got brave enough to like lift the rock and then the lights hurt their eyes, but they keep going because they're like living under a rock is no way to be. That's literally me, like, this isn't the last how many years, oh you know what if it was like, oh, you know, the last few months. No, this is just I'm constantly learning this, even like I don't know. Maybe the last twelve years. 00:07:51 Speaker 3: Oh, twelve years is fairly recent, I would say. I mean, yeah, yeah, you do you appreciate when people show up on time for you? You or do yours? 00:08:03 Speaker 4: Of course? Well I'm impressed. I'm impressed. I'm like, wow, how do they know? How do they not have the stomach problem that I did when I woke up too early? So I like to wake up just right on time to make it to the meeting. You know, how are they up for? You? Know how some people apparently when you wake up, you're supposed to give yourself like an hour and a half to even just like wake up, read it. Like you don't wake up and just go right to work. You can't do that. Your body would I think you would have get in a car accident or something. Does that make sense? 00:08:36 Speaker 3: I think if you like literally got out of bed into the car and started driving, you certainly would have some issues. 00:08:43 Speaker 4: I used to do that because yeah, because I didn't know that there was like this thing that you enjoyed to drink coffee, maybe read the news, you know, take time to wake up, That's what I mean. 00:08:56 Speaker 3: So you were waiting, were you having any breakfast? Or were you just going? 00:09:00 Speaker 4: I would just go because I would stay up late and eat really late too, so I was still full. 00:09:06 Speaker 3: What essentially just eating breakfast before bed, going to bed and waking up and moving on. 00:09:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a hunt, but again I had You know, I have a schizophrenic mom who just kind of didn't teach me the concept of these things. You know, adulting was different for her. So essentially I stayed twelve years old. You know. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, are you and your mom still? 00:09:30 Speaker 4: Like, what is your relationship now? Yeah, we're still you know, mother and daughter. She's divorced. Yeah, no, I mean yeah, we still have We have a really close relationship. It's just now I'm like married and trying to be an adult quicker, you know, so I'm these things are hitting me and hitting me fast. Like your husband has been patient with all of this totally. He knows my upbringing a fun fact. Sorry, you know, this is supposed to be a podcast that's like fun, me and you here we are as anything I know, and then it turned into the guest here you get to we'll talk about whatever. Well, because it's truly turned into a therapy session in that I was about to tell you Bridger. My husband's mom also has schizophrenia, right, what what the hell did you know this prior to meeting him? No? Yeah, no. Can you imagine if there was a website for that, like like schizomoms dot com for daters. I mean, some people might want that, but most people probably want to get away from. 00:10:43 Speaker 3: That, right, similar, it would probably I mean there, I mean you probably it's probably nice to have someone in your life who understands that it has some real common ground that you can like, right, because schizophrenia is a big thing to deal with, and it's so it's probably the other thing for someone who doesn't have a sCOD sphadic family member to even begin to. 00:11:04 Speaker 4: Comprehend, right right. I think So that's because of that he is patient with me, and you know, I mean my late blooming there's perks too, Okay, I'm really chill and I'm you know right right, I'm not an asshole, like I'm very playful. But again it's probably because I'm stuck at like being a kid, you know, very I love having fun, I love you know, conversations, and I there's empathy, a lot of empathy in me because I grew up watching my mom suffer, you know, So I am that kind of person. I'm not like uptight, but sure I'm messy as hell, you know. 00:11:46 Speaker 3: Right, But that sort of thing kind of doesn't matter. So you, I think you probably just have better perspective. It's just like the little things aren't as a big of a deal to you. 00:11:53 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, totally, totally, And I will like show the hell up emotionally for a person, because I know what suffering means to people, you know. And half hour late, yeah, yeah, if you don't mind that, I'm there for you for the rest of the day, you know. 00:12:11 Speaker 3: Ful, that's really lovely. I've been reading a book called Hidden Valley Road, which is about a family. These people, I think they live in lived in Colorado. They had twelve children, and six of their sons were schizophrenic. Oh Jesus, I mean it's a wild story. It's really fascinating, but I mean it's really been enlightning to learn about schizophrenia and the whole things. 00:12:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you imagine? I mean, and then you went for twelve right, so it's like right, I mean, since it was half and half, you're just every time, every time the kid's like about to turn twenty you know, because that's around when the symptimes. God, it's just so scary the whole time. You're just like every day, you know, can you every day during their twenties, you're just like you haven't heard anything? Okay, good, okay, right, Like, I mean, yeah, and just of having twelve twelve children with no issues would be such a monumental challenge, I know, and with a mental illness like this one where you truly don't know until they're in their twenties, that taking time bomb. Yeah, oh my god, I would be so scared of everything until I mean, I don't know. Wow, Well, I'm glad there's another half. I mean, I sometimes I don't know. I have nothing to say except I'm not having kids, either. 00:13:38 Speaker 3: Of I I've got. I mean, I can't put a box on the wall. I mean, the idea of having a child to do anything. I should not be allowed to have a child to take care of. I'm not the person. 00:13:51 Speaker 4: Do Do you like your friends and family they like agree? Are they ever like well at least adopt or something or like I guess actually that's what it would be, Ryan ad. 00:14:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be adopting. I think people are a lot of the time people be like, oh, I think you'd make a good father, which, let's be honest, I'd probably make a terrific father. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: Who knows. 00:14:16 Speaker 3: But I'm also I just don't have any interest as a late bloomer, and as I like, I had the realization a couple of years ago that like, I didn't come out until I was thirty, and so I feel like I kind of didn't live my life fully until I was thirty. And so I'm like, I want to just live my life for me for a while and we'll see what. Yeah, but who knows. Maybe at some point I'll the switch will happen and I'll be like a seventy year old father. 00:14:40 Speaker 4: I don't know. Wow. Yeah, when everything's calmed down. Yeah, I mean outside we're currently in the middle of a campfire. 00:14:50 Speaker 1: I know. I know. 00:14:52 Speaker 4: It's like the last thing my ovaries want right now is to like try to make something happen. Yeah, does not. 00:15:00 Speaker 3: This does not seem like the world that you would want to I mean, and God bless everyone. If you're listener, if you're pregnant or if recently had a child, wonderful, Yeah, bring it up strong and wonderful. But it does seem like a scary time to have a child, right. 00:15:16 Speaker 4: Right, And this is you know again, yeah me speaking for me. You know, everyone else can do their own thing. But if you are going to reveal the gender of your child, please please for the just do a zoom party, yes. 00:15:30 Speaker 3: Just or how about just wait till it's born and then send out you know, the card that says it's a boy or it's a girl. We did that for a long time and it's so yeah. 00:15:41 Speaker 4: Or best yet, wait till your kid wants to reveal the gender and then have the kid send the freaking postcards. Well, if they want to, they might not even be that excited about their gender, you know, business send out a card that says, none of your business. We had a I don't know, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 00:16:02 Speaker 3: We don't need a smoke machine, we don't need a firework spectacular. We just just announce that you're having a baby, and we'll all I mean, nobody truly cares. 00:16:12 Speaker 4: Well that family, by the way, that just you know, the gender reveal party and we're in LA. So yeah, that one that hit near closer to us last weekend, Yeah, I think last weekend. Yeah, I mean I was now we now suddenly they want privacy. Now we don't know anything about We don't know anything about them. Actually, now, I was like, did we ever find out the gender? Because I was just sitting in the smoke, and I was just like, hold on, wait, did we ever find out the gender? Because they were like, the world needs to know the world needs to know. And then oh, now suddenly we have no idea their whereabouts. We do not know a single thing about this family. Oh now you want to stay quiet. 00:16:56 Speaker 3: My only theory is that did you ever watch Game of Thrones? But I know that the gender of this baby is that smoke monster that came out of that woman. Do you remember when the woman gave birth to a smoke monster? That's what we're. 00:17:09 Speaker 4: Dealing with, you. No, I must have missed that episode. Now, I forgot to tell you. I skipped many seasons. I was in and out. I was in an out. But I'm going to look for that particular episode. No. 00:17:21 Speaker 3: I think that that's the only explanation at this point, because we haven't heard boy or a girls, and we are, I mean, we are just truly surrounded by campfire smoke at all times. It's been extremely frustrating. If I'm gonna smell like smoke, I really feel like I need to be able to have had a s'more and yeah, not getting to have a smore and having to breathe in this air, it's just been absolutely It sends me into an absolute fit. 00:17:46 Speaker 4: So I don't Yeah you sound angry, bitch, I'm a very angry man. Yeah I believe you. Yeah yeah. 00:17:56 Speaker 3: Your zoop background meanwhile, is so lovely. What happening here? It's like a little forest or something. Yeah, it's just you know. 00:18:04 Speaker 4: Well, the truth is, I have a just a green screen wall behind me, and I was like, I was like, that's that's gonna look so plain and lame. I was like, well, what's a green screen for? I should just take a picture from anywhere on the internet put it up. So these are leaves. It's from a cartoon, an anime called Toto. 00:18:26 Speaker 3: That's what it looked familiar like it looked I can't quite is that Totoro in the background there? Yeah, yeah, it's like on my zoom that it's just like a little gray and white triangle right right. 00:18:37 Speaker 4: That's the that's the you know, illusion of the depths they were trying to create and yeah, because because in this picture is very far away. Yes, so that's ok. He's tiny, but this is what I really look like. Wait, you can't do that. Oh, it's just a it's just a green screen behind gaudy green let's see. Yeah, I know this is not Nobody can see what we're doing, and it's a yeah, look at that. 00:19:06 Speaker 3: That's Oh that's just not nearly as fun. It looks like a green curtain and uh, which we were all familiar with. That that's no fun. Why not have a you know, a magical land behind you? 00:19:17 Speaker 4: Exactly? 00:19:17 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm glad to get this setting. I mean, I'm so jealous of people, and yet I don't put any effort into improving. And I think that's kind of a theme of my life, not putting effort into improving, wanting something that I see somebody else having and then not doing anything to achieve it. 00:19:34 Speaker 4: What's something? What's something else that you've been wanting that someone else has? The crate on the wall. Yeah, I mean, Richard, I'm gonna have to tell you right now. You you got to put a rest of that crate. I know we just met, but I just I think I think you need to put that to rest. Should I just buy nightstands? Well, you own, you own nightstands, you just don't like the ones so depressing, So hold on. So you have crates just sitting on the ground somewhere right now, sitting in my bedroom. Okay, so okay, you know, maybe you should finish this project. Do you have anyone that can help you with this? 00:20:12 Speaker 3: I was thinking of reaching out to a friend, basically the only person in Los Angeles I know who knows how to use a power drill, and I thought, maybe I'll reach out to him. And yeah, you know, of course it's COVID time, so it's difficult to arrange this sort of thing. But I feel like maybe I say, put on your mask, get your power drill, please save my day, because otherwise this will this will drag on for months and then I'll try it and probably destroy it, and then it'll be you know, a whole other right. 00:20:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, you only have one friend that you know who can drill? 00:20:47 Speaker 3: I cannot think of it. I think I can recommend to anyone looking to expand their friend group of people, exclusively people who don't know how to use power drills. Move to Los Angeles. You'll suddenly have a wealth of friends who cannot complete a project, right, yeah. 00:21:04 Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, and then you end up having just the one person who can use tools like a power drill, and you gotta hope, like do you like this person? I mean, well, you know, sometimes you're like, oh, this is the only person that knows to depend on somebody you don't like. And sometimes that's the case. Sometimes they're the only one with that special skill. Right then what do you do? It's you still have to have them over, because do you do you want great sitting on your floor? I don't know, or maybe subconsciously I do. I don't know. What if the only person that knows how to use a power drill is the only person you know who with COVID. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: And he's had it since March. He's just powering through the last several months. Just that he's a super spreader. He has permanent COVID. 00:21:55 Speaker 4: Some people have gone it twice. It's so messed up, is that true? I mean, supposedly, look all this COVID news. I'm every day, I'm like, there's something new where it's so. 00:22:05 Speaker 3: It's terrible, right, It's just always evolving. So it's like, who knows what what's real? This well, we know that, okay. And also I'm going to be very clear that the sickness the virus is real. I would love to come out now as a COVID desire. 00:22:21 Speaker 4: No, I'm going to see if Steven will just edit that part so that it sounds like you say, who knows what's real anymore? And that's it about the virus. 00:22:30 Speaker 3: The only thing we know that isn't real is the COVID virus, which is a hoax, as President Trump has told us. No again, I want to be clear. I need to you know, you never know when you send something out to the internet. You have to just really nail in how clear you are the COVID virus is real, wear a mask, do everything you can because this is a bad thing. 00:22:53 Speaker 4: You know what else needs to be nailed in? What those crates on your freaking on your freaking floor, it's fair onto your wall? 00:23:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, very true. And hopefully this friend will come over without the virus. Maybe I let him stay here for the weekend. I go somewhere else. 00:23:11 Speaker 4: I don't know. You have to do this sort of planning. I don't know. It sounds it sounds more like a romantic getaway you're trying to. 00:23:19 Speaker 3: Give your friend. Maybe he needs fun. We all could use to get away right now. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: Oh for sure, for sure, Hey come over. You can do some work for me, but you get to stay the weekend and maybe like we'll fall in love. 00:23:36 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of you know, people doing favors and the unexpected, this sort of thing. 00:23:44 Speaker 4: Let's go. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: You know, you know this podcast is called I said no gifts. Yeah, and we arranged a couple of weeks ago for you to come on the show. And you know, the emails have all said the name of the podcast, this sort of thing. The podcast is out there for listening, and the rule is clear. I said no gifts, and yet this morning I looked at my email in preparation for you to be here, and I had received an email from you with the subject line high bridger, do not open, Do not open, several exclamation marks, and then a did I say exclamation mark? It's an exclamation point. I feel like I'm losing my mind here, and then a little emoji of a whispering smiley face, and then oh yeah, see is I know you said no gifts, but dot dot dot enclosed below dot dot dot and that's all I'm seeing right now. 00:24:38 Speaker 4: So let's go. Is Is this a gift for me? It is Bridger, Yeah, because you need this gift. Should I open it? I think you should open it. 00:24:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to open this. I'm going to open this email. And this is very unconventional. This is an get an E gift, which you know, living our current pandemic is one erful way to send a gift, and it's you never know what you're gonna be able to do electronically. So I'm very I'm intrigued. I'm going to do the click and we're gonna see what this this holds. Go ahead, here we go full Now it says I know you said no gifts, but in closed below is something I know you've always wanted. A free dance hall workout taught by me. What enjoy you can share with buddies or whoever you love as well. Since we can't go outside, and this will take up at least forty minutes of your time, let's go a dance hall workout. This is wonder Tell me. 00:25:43 Speaker 4: Everything, yep, oh tell you well. First of all, I'm sorry I disrespected you, But second of all, I think you for the apology. I think if I know anything about you, it's that you're gonna want something to procrastinate doing. You're not putting up those crates on your wall, right, So for forty minutes every time you can dance work out with me? Is this something you do regularly? I used to, but not anymore. But yes, you know when before the pandemic, so you know, there was comedy. I do comedy right, and then just like twice a week for like cause I love it. I love doing it just for two hours a week. I taught a dance hall like workout dance class. That's incredible. Involve what dance hall music, which is like Jamaica and dance hall music, and yeah, it involves usually you know moms, right, a lot of moms coming and taking my class. And where was this taking place? Just down the street from me and Atwater Village, Okay, at a studio village beautiful Atwater Village, at a studiowhere near the restaurant dune. Yes, yeah, it's Heartbeat House. I did it at heartbea House. Yeah. 00:27:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, hear that music. When I got done done, reach out to me, I love you. 00:27:11 Speaker 4: Yeah. Sometimes you would write, you would just it's one of those studios where from like because it's on a busy kind of a lot of restaurants around there. Right, You always hear moms being like ooh, ooh, ooh doing their zombus. That's where I taught. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: Wow, And so is it kind of like I've never taken a class like this. I mean I did in high school. I took aerobics class, which I thought would be a funny thing to do, and then it ended up being maybe the most difficult class I took in high school because of the level of intensity. And then our teacher became pregnant about halfway through, and so she was no longer exercising, and I think forgot how difficult it was and really put us through the ringer right right, Wow, But that as far as aerobic exercise, that's as far as I got. What So are you doing dances? Are you doing? What is it? 00:28:02 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:28:02 Speaker 4: Yeah? So it is like, so the music is to dance hall and then there's dance hall moves that I also teach during the class. Okay, and what are a dance hall move? Like, Well, they're they're invented by dance hall dancers, mostly in Jamaica, so and then it just kind of gets taught through other teachers and then it gets passed down to at Water Village. But yeah, that's kind of there's always new moves in dance hall. It's it's not it's unlike, well, I guess it's kind of like TikTok has become that where there's new moves that you kind of catch on to, right like trends. Does that make sense. It's like that with dance hall and they but they name the dance is like whatever they're kind of going through at the time, or it could be like a for example, there's a move called thunderclap. That's a dance hall move where you literally like reach your arms out in the air and then clap. That's called a thunderclap. Give it a run. It's literally you running but really high up and taking slower strides. And it's a way for like, once you get to know dancehall dance, it's a way for people who might just be at a gathering in a backyard, so they have moves. Yeah, if dancehole music plays, the DJ will just call out these moves and people will know to do it together in a group. Oh yeah, kind of like you know the electric slide types. 00:29:43 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. In my I had to teach like, as our final assignment in aerobics class, I had to run the whole class through the aerobics thing. And you know, I put on a Britney Spears type microphone and had this whole thing set up, and I created a move called the Raspberry twirl, which socially squatting and then uh, spinning your arms in the air. And I thought it would be funny for people to do. But then real like, you do twenty of those and you feel like you're gonna die. 00:30:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're squatting and then you spin your arms around above you. Yeah, yes, I mean I could show you right now if you'd like. Yeah, And this was in high school and you didn't come out till you were thirty. 00:30:26 Speaker 3: Can you imagine I hate to show you. 00:30:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, go, Brittany, that was so good. 00:30:39 Speaker 3: So you imagine doing that over and over and over and suddenly the whole class hates you. And yeah, then you come out twelve years. 00:30:51 Speaker 4: Later Raspberry swirl. Yeah, that one was good. To which Brittany's track again. 00:31:00 Speaker 3: You know this is you're gonna want to do this to Toxic. I think, yes, you get those kind of shrieking violins and you you know, I mean, yeah, is there a better Britney song? 00:31:11 Speaker 4: Gosh, that one's really good. I think I mean Swan song, that's it. It's I mean, you know, there's just like people just like it's Brittany bitch. But they just say that part right, It's not like they like the entire song. You know, it's very forgettable. I think yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say Toxic is the one. 00:31:27 Speaker 3: Toxic is her big you know, her shining jewel. 00:31:31 Speaker 4: Apparently it was. The music was like, uh, not lifted but inspired by Bollywood. 00:31:39 Speaker 3: Ah, that kind of makes sense. And also it's kind of like a weirdly like spaghetti western field. 00:31:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of both. Yeah, I think that the Yeah, yeah, there's like a whole probably like a now this video or something about it. 00:31:53 Speaker 3: Well, another fact, let's just keep I mean, who who would have thought that we'd be just talking Britney spears. But I learned recently that that song was originally going to be a Kylie Minogue song. She passed up on it. What would what would the world be right now if Toxic was a Kylie Minogue song. 00:32:09 Speaker 4: Wow, you know I can totally see that too though, Oh yeah, you know yem hmmm hmm, yeah, what would the world be The world would be watching Kylie's Instagram's, not Brittany's. 00:32:22 Speaker 3: That's what would be happening. But it's the other way. What's your feeling on Britney spears Instagram? I like going there, I know, I like, I like Brittany. I'm all for Brittany and I think people people were too mean to Brittany And yeah, so like we knew she was like quirky and kookie and that's what her instagram says she is. Yeah, I think that, you know, I mean I think that the world was very terrible to her. And obviously there's some arrested development happening or something going on, but she seems to. 00:32:57 Speaker 4: Be having a good time. I don't know what to say. Yeah, no, I mean that's shaving her head thing. Oh my god. And you know how everyone's shaved their head during quarantine, right and people are always like, oh, you know, it just means you've lost it or whatever. But it's like, Okay, you see my hair, Bridger, I love your hair. This chop bank kind of bowl cut. Okay, it's a lot to upkeep. Okay. The other day I almost changed it, and I said, and I had scissors to my head. Okay, by the way, this is like, this is my brand, Okay, likes phenomenal. My hair has been like this since I was a baby. 00:33:40 Speaker 3: Well, still have somebody who keeps a haircut from baby to adulthood. I only have one other friend who's done that. And if you find a haircut that works for you and you can hang on to it, I say, do it right. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: Well, so there were a few years where I changed it up, but then it's back to this right now. The other day I had scissors to my head. I said, I'm gonna change it. Okay, I'm gonna go crazy, And then I literally couldn't. I said, I don't have the emotional capacity to change my hair even a bit right now, which made me think, shaving your head that is actually an act of bravery. It takes a lot of strength to do that. When I can't even I was gonna just cut off like a centimeter, I couldn't even do that. Does that make sense? 00:34:26 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, Well, you think about getting a haircut in a normal time when nothing, when the world is only kind of horrible. 00:34:34 Speaker 2: M hm. 00:34:35 Speaker 3: You get a haircut, and even if it's good, there's the adjustment period, the emotional adjustment. 00:34:40 Speaker 4: To the haircut. 00:34:41 Speaker 3: So yeah, right now, the idea of giving yourself a haircut. If it goes wrong, you are going to be devastated. You're going to I mean, we're all just hanging by a thread right now. The last thing you need is a bad haircut. Even if it's good, you're gonna have to adjust to it. It's too much emotionally. I absolutely. Let me ask what time of day was it when you started considering the haircut? 00:35:03 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:35:03 Speaker 4: Like two pm? Oh, that's that's when I'm like the biggest hot mess. Oh why do you usually consider haircuts at midnight or something late at night? 00:35:11 Speaker 3: That's the only time I can tell it's time to go to bed when I'm like, oh, maybe I could cut my hair a little bit and so interesting two PM. I wonder what's going on chemically for you that two pm is the time that feels like haircut time. 00:35:25 Speaker 4: Well, it's just I have more energy, I'm not drunk on a couch. And do you not have the strength to get up to even get scissors. What other haircuts have you had just you know, like a side swipe? Yeah, like was it like a fierce fiarce sorry? 00:35:46 Speaker 1: Or was it? 00:35:47 Speaker 4: Or it wasn't just like a chopp bang through the middle or you know this kind of book. But I had like long hair with like a side swipe, you know, very like early two thousand. Yeah, that makes sense, early two thousand, you know when everyone was wearing ballet flats, you know it was that time, and had side swipes and just truly didn't have an identity for our era. Sure, sure, have you ever dyed your hair? I had it bleached in like the seventh grade, okay, And how did you feel? 00:36:19 Speaker 1: You know? 00:36:20 Speaker 4: I was going through a period where I was ashamed of me, of who I was, and sure here I was trying to look like Arian. And then I was like, wait, this makes me look more Asian If I have blonde hair, complete blonde hair, it just highlights my face even more. And I was like, cool, well I couldn't get it all blonde. It was it was a diy at home. So it was it like orange e yeah yeah, yeah, like yeah, yeah, I was gonna say like but I was like, no, that looks really natural and really good. Yeah, my shit looked like, yeah, like a literal nectarine. Nectarine to me, tangerine, tangerine, But I knew exactly what you were talking a nectarine. I cannot picture what a nectarine is in my mind right now. You can't. Well, it's just like, you know, just like a sunburnt ginger butt. Wait, let's go. 00:37:29 Speaker 3: You're not describing a nectarine to me. You're now describing a tangerine again. Oh, that is a nectarine. 00:37:36 Speaker 4: A nectarine is like a peach, but like a fuzz. 00:37:40 Speaker 3: Oh, like a hybrid peach or something. I just can't picture in my mind. For some reason. That's one of the well say the word and then it just vanishes from your mind. I don't know what that is psychologically what they call that. 00:37:51 Speaker 4: But well, honey, let me tell you. If you live close to three sixty five per Chance, which is near me Silver Lake, there's a sale of neck darines right now, and you can go in consider it, you know, but you can look at it. I don't know. That's the only reason why I think I said necktrain was because I clocked a sale yesterday at the grocery store. Oh sure, sure, yeah, favorite fruit. H No, I'm so basic. I'm just like, well, then I just name the basic fruit just you know, apple, orange, right, banana? How about you? 00:38:30 Speaker 3: I mean, it was unfair for me to ask, because of course I don't have an answer. But off the top of my head, if a peach is good, I will say the peach. A good peach is the best fruit by far. But I love an orange. I love a good orange. I love a good blood orange. I come quat anything citrus and a little bit tangy. 00:38:47 Speaker 4: I love. I love limes. So you don't eat a lime, but. 00:38:51 Speaker 3: It is such a beautiful fruit, the perfect flavor of the perfect color. Really nailed it with the lime. But yeah, and then I like berries, black berries, berries. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: You do okay? Yeah, so you you're kind of you do it all. I do it all. I mean, you just don't do the big fruits like canalo. 00:39:11 Speaker 3: Melon for me is not happening. Why melon, The flavor doesn't work for me. 00:39:17 Speaker 4: And you know, like a melon salad huh. 00:39:19 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. And I was thinking about that recently. You know, there are those fruit stands around LA, like the little guys on the side of the road. I've never been to one, And I think part of it is because I see so much melon in there. I feel like I'm gonna get a bag of melon. Have you ever been to one? 00:39:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, you will get a bag of melon. It's bigger fruit usually like pineapples too. I love a pineapple and yeah, I mean we'll go go get a get the pineapple bags. 00:39:45 Speaker 3: I mean, do you get to request the fruit or is it just like a of. 00:39:48 Speaker 4: Course bridger, of course you get. It's not a surprise bag. It's not a it's not a it's not a close your eyes and pick. You're the customer bridger. That's why you've been avoiding those places. 00:40:03 Speaker 3: I think that's why I avoid a lot of things because I'm afraid to ask. 00:40:06 Speaker 1: And so. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: Do they put My other question is do they put like hot sauce or something on it? 00:40:13 Speaker 4: Oh, if you want, if you want, that to me, sounds intriguing. Chili. Yeah it's good. I mean I grew up in La, so you know all my friends were eating eating like chili fruit, chili, mango, you know, like stuff like that, and so it is good. But you don't have to do it again again. You're the customer bridger who I don't know who gave you the idea that you would not get to choose when you're paying melon. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Well, it's just you know, you drive past and it just seems to be a melon upon melon upon melon, And I don't want a melon. I simply can't eat a honeydew. I can't cantalope. I can deal with a water melon, but I'm never. 00:40:58 Speaker 4: Oh you say that now when a senior Okay, when you're a senior citizen five years old, when you're eighty five years old, you're gonna be fed melons like no one's business. 00:41:10 Speaker 3: You. 00:41:10 Speaker 4: I have a grandma that I hang out with all the time. All she wants is melons, and it's just softer for your dentures. And that's true. You're gonna have a lover by your bedside just feeding your melons. Your taste bus might change too by then, that's true. 00:41:25 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll grow into it. Maybe I'm like a melon late bloomer. 00:41:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, like with all things in our lives, is your is your grandma in La? My grandma is. But currently she's in Taiwan just partying. Oh did she travel there on vacation or something? She traveled there to get a knee replacement surgery which went successful and she is now healing. But also just there's no cases of COVID there, so she's able to wait. 00:41:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fantastic. Good for Taiwan, I know if they just cracked down on it in a big. 00:41:59 Speaker 4: Way because there were neighbors to neighbors to China, so they were able to kind of just you know, see what was happening quicker and just act on it. And yeah, for example, like if you enter the country now, if you enter Taiwan, now you have to quarantine inside like an airbnb for it two weeks, and you know, they take your temperature every day, and yeah, they just track you. There's a phone that tracks. 00:42:28 Speaker 3: There's somebody smart in charge rather than a lunatic. 00:42:31 Speaker 4: Right right, right, Yeah, they have a female president. 00:42:36 Speaker 3: Yes, it seems to be kind of the common theme of countries that have it under control. 00:42:41 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, and they hit that they did it. And so she's there, yeah, not eating melons? What was she eating? She always shows me fruit. I don't know about your grandma or other people's grandma, but your grandma is always like when I do face, I'm with her, she's always just like, look at this fruit that I'm eating good for anybody else? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah. 00:43:08 Speaker 3: I can't remember the last time I had a conversation with my grandma about fruit, but it's probably time. Maybe I'll reach out to her today and just see what she's been eating fruit wise. 00:43:17 Speaker 1: I like. 00:43:18 Speaker 4: Okay, So growing up, I liked the rumors of fruit that were always like sexual, like what like you know, like, oh, if you eat pineapples like. 00:43:28 Speaker 3: Ohmen disiak or oh yeah right, like. 00:43:31 Speaker 4: Your cemen tastes sweeter or whatever. Right, and then in Timewan like if you eat papayas, I guess your boobs get bigger like these you know, these rumors of fruit like that like weird, like erotic old wives tales almost yeah yeah, yeah, they're like no scientists ever like okayed or like said it was true. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: Well, but they're like, you know, there's like, what's that thing that is it Cindy Crawford is selling on TV that's like I put melon all over my face or something. 00:44:00 Speaker 4: So that just feels like wait, currently in nineteen ninety eight. 00:44:05 Speaker 3: Twenty at least as of I think I saw this in twenty nineteen, but Cindy, I think it was Cindy Crawford. She's on TV. She's got lotion made out of melons or something, which is clearly just nonsense. And I mean she's legitimized these rumors. I mean next she'll be right selling some other fruit. Who knows. 00:44:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god. It's just like that sounds like such a latist days kind of infomercial total, you know what I mean, Like Richard Simmons food calculator days kind of remember his food calculator. Well, it was like this tangible thing. It wasn't a calculator. It had pictures of like the food pyramid. Do you remember this? Okay, And as you ate them throughout the day, you would have to like close the blinds on it. So it's like like an only event calendar. Yeah exactly. It's like, okay, now you only can eat one more fruit for the day. You've you almost had your fill, you know, and there was only like four fats so yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I know this because I bought it. You bought it, and did you use it for a time? 00:45:19 Speaker 1: I did. 00:45:19 Speaker 4: Yeah. It came with three VHS videos of his workouts. Oh fantastic, and and it did a lot for me and That's why I think this, see, this is me bringing it all back, and that's why I think this dancehall workout will do a lot for you. Yeah. Did you any of Richard's moves into your workout routines? No? No, no, that's I mean, I don't know if it's like patented, you can't do. I want you to get sued by Richards. You can't bring in his hot hot hot, how you can't those are his moves you can't bring in, right. 00:45:58 Speaker 3: I mean he has vanished from this, so who knows, But maybe he's lying in wait just to sue someone, just waiting to strike. 00:46:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, he's probably still he probably still like looks at fitness videos out there. 00:46:13 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I wonder what he thinks of today's fitness. Did you ever listen to that podcast about him? 00:46:18 Speaker 4: I did? I did, and I felt like, yeah, because he was just at home this whole time when I were just bothering this person. He was like, yeah, I just don't feel like talking, like you're being out. 00:46:33 Speaker 3: Who doesn't want to do the job. I want to retire. I want to live at my house and not be bothered. 00:46:38 Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, and I think that's okay. 00:46:41 Speaker 3: You know what, I think that it's time for a game. I think I want to play a game with you. 00:46:46 Speaker 4: Let's play a game. 00:46:47 Speaker 3: Let me give you two choices. One is called Gift Master, the other is called gift or a Curse. Which would you rather play? Oh, gift Master, okay, fantastic. Give me a number between one and ten seven, Okay, I have to do some calculating in the next minute or so. Who knows how much time it'll actually take me to do this. You can promote something, you can recommend something, you can share a secret, you can do whatever you want. You have the microphone, okay. 00:47:14 Speaker 4: For a whole minute, well or maybe four minutes, I don't know. Wow. So I'm currently staring at Bridger's eyebrows. It's very He's very expressive when he's concentrating. He is in it. I think I'm not good at math, but I bet he is. Like I know he's counting hard right now, because if you could see if you could see his face right now, you would you would go, wow, is he he's solving climate change right now? But no, it's for a game called Gift Master, And I'm assuming that's what I'm playing for is to be the master. I have gifts. Check out my podcast. Let's go check out my show Ohio live streaming every last Sunday at six pm. Anyway, So back to bridgerd counting. I mean, I don't know how much he has to count because he asked for a number, just a random number from one through ten, and I said seven, So I don't I don't really know if he's like multiplying seven seven times or if he's having to dividing seven seven times would be harder. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I that was a beautiful, interesting look at the time, use of that time, and I think you've kind of did a whole milage of things which was so wonderful. And I hope that people enjoyed that minute alone with you, and I feel like everyone grew closer. 00:49:20 Speaker 4: Because of it. Oh yeah for sure. Yeah. 00:49:22 Speaker 3: All that said, let me tell you how this game works. I'm going to tell you three items, three potential gifts, and then I'm also going to tell you three celebrities. You have to tell me which gift you would give which celebrity and why does that make sense? 00:49:36 Speaker 4: Yeah? That makes sense? Gift Master. Yeah, here we go. Okay, let me tell you. The gifts are as follows. 00:49:45 Speaker 3: The gifts are an eyebrow threading session, a thirteen day carnival cruise, and an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actress in a limited say movie. 00:50:01 Speaker 4: Those are the great gifts that you'll be giving. I love it. 00:50:04 Speaker 3: Okay, Now you have to give them to the following people. First of all, we have R and B singer Miguel Are you familiar, Yes I am, yeah, actor Hugh Jackman, Hugh Jackman. And finally, finally, where is it on here? We've got oh, we have actor Catherine Zeta Jones. 00:50:30 Speaker 4: Okay, so who are you going to give? 00:50:32 Speaker 3: What? 00:50:33 Speaker 4: And why? Hold on? So you said an Emmy for a series. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: Now the exact gift you'll be giving is an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited series or movie. That's a specific Emmy. 00:50:48 Speaker 2: You know. 00:50:48 Speaker 3: This isn't lighting design, this is not directing, this is not uh right, best children's show. This is this is very hard. 00:51:00 Speaker 4: This is very hard because whoever I put on that carnival cruise ship is going to get COVID and so and maybe more maybe an Emmy. You know, sometimes people rise victoriously. Now, unfortunately for me, right, and my just the way I was brought up, Katherine Zeta Jones. You know, besides Chicago, which was a long time ago, you know, I didn't. I never like grew up really watching her stuff, right, and Chicago was eighteen years ago. What have you done for me lately? Catherine? You know? 00:51:40 Speaker 3: And tell you the only movie I can remember her being in is the one where she's like a sexy spy going between the laser beams. 00:51:49 Speaker 4: Do you remember that? Oh that sounds hot and I definitely missed it. That's all like an remember of her career. Yeah, I think the mask of Zora all right? Right, but you know, again, what have you done for me lately? Unfortunately? Catherine, Maybe you take a break and think about what you're gonna do for me lately, you know, and go ky put a mask on. She's rich enough she can make sure that nobody else is on that carnival cruise if she. 00:52:19 Speaker 3: Wanted, or just thirteen days alone on a carnival cruise, yeah, with. 00:52:24 Speaker 4: Like maybe her loved ones, you know. So I'm going to send her on that, okay, And uh, Kathy, you know I'm going to give that eyebrow threading to Hugh Jackman, Okay, because I don't let me look at his eyebrows. I haven't seen his eyebrows at a while. I don't think they're actually well. Because Hugh is an actor. We've seen him in all cuts this stuff, musicals, TV, I don't know if he is seeing TV shows. He's in so many Okay, logan, I'm gonna call on. He's Logan Okay is Wolverine. Yeah, and he sings and dances. Everyone's appressed. Okay, his So I want to give Miguel the chance to be like a Emmy winning for sure. Sure, you know, because I don't know if I feel like Miguel will just like saying in Coco. But I don't know how close he's gone to like being in motion pictures, but might. 00:53:23 Speaker 3: Have that interest. He's kind of godic and moody. 00:53:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see that, you know, not not all I've already seen, you know. So that's why that's why those are the people the gifts are going to. 00:53:39 Speaker 3: Okay, fantastic, I think that that's a great you know, you know, I put eyebrow threading. 00:53:43 Speaker 4: On this list. 00:53:44 Speaker 3: At some point, you know, I fall into kind of these States where I'm just typing out things that come to mind. I quite understand even what eyebrow threading is. Is it they like put threads on your eyebrows and then pull them out. Is that what's going on? 00:53:58 Speaker 1: I think? 00:53:59 Speaker 4: So I haven't done it before. Sorry, I just ate a chip. Well, you know you've got to fill up on the podcast. What kind of chip? But just got hungry? You know, just a generic It's a sea salt potato chip. Oh, I love a plane salted chip, that's all. Yeah. So, yeah, I've seen people do it. I think the way I've seen people do it is there's they the people doing it have stread in their mouth what and they're using their mouth and their two hands while they kind of I think, kind of yeah straight away at the eyebrows. I don't know exactly how. 00:54:42 Speaker 3: You don't look into the science of that, because I just don't understand why it's better than just plucking the eyebrows. 00:54:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, I don't know why. 00:54:50 Speaker 3: I don't know if that, Yeah, well you will find out what this new gift. I think you did an excellent job there. I think Miguel getting the Emmy for Lead Actress in a Limited series or movie is perfect. 00:55:01 Speaker 4: Oh you said lead actress. Yeah, gender is such a drug anyway. 00:55:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that it's time for anyone to get anything who can, And I think Miguel would be happy to do, you know. And I think anyone would be thrilled to be getting this award for a limited series or movie. 00:55:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:55:20 Speaker 3: So let's move on. We've got one final part of this podcast. People have been reaching out to me at I said no gifts at gmail dot com. They're desperate for answers. They need these answers or they're not going to be able to move on with their lives. Would you mind helping me answer a couple of questions? 00:55:37 Speaker 4: I would love to help you. 00:55:38 Speaker 3: All right, let me read this first one. It says, dear Bridger, My mother is a dear lady with some progressive hoarding tendencies and a very cluttered home that is slowly driving my stepdad to the teetering brink of insanity. Each year on her birthday, I want to buy her something, but repeatedly face the reality that she has too much of everything, including too many small trinket gifts like necklaces, which she apparently she has been giving her for the last decade or so, so I don't live close to her, so I can't take her out to a nice dinner or other event. Oh and of course, now this person is saying, love your podcast, so buttering me up as usual. This is from Holly and she says in parentheses like Holly Berry, not Haley Steinfeld. Now Hailey Steinfelder, that what happened to her? She was in true grit and then kind of vanished. Is that what's going on with the Haley steinfeldser the world? Do you don't even know who I'm talking about? 00:56:33 Speaker 4: No? I did not. 00:56:35 Speaker 3: I remember her being good and true grit and then that was the end of it. But that's why are we getting into. 00:56:41 Speaker 4: Oh she's okay, she's like twenty. 00:56:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's probably an adult. Now, well let's you know, I've taken a. 00:56:49 Speaker 4: S Oh she's in Dickinson. 00:56:51 Speaker 3: Oh she's in Dickinson. I haven't seen that. That's the Apple thing. 00:56:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did watch that. I have seen her. It was fine. It's like goth girls meet, you know, a period piece. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: Okay, sure, okay, she's working and she you know, Hailee Steinfeld didn't write in Holly like Holly Berry wrote in her mom is a hoarder. She doesn't need a single other thing. What could we give this person? 00:57:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, wow, you're asking a hoarder, you're a order. Well I'm not organized, remember right? Right? So like besides, yeah, on Netflix account to watch that new organizational show? 00:57:33 Speaker 1: Is that on? 00:57:35 Speaker 4: Is that on Netflix? Is? 00:57:36 Speaker 3: There are a few organizational shows on Netflix at this point. There's one called like Editing Home Editing or something. 00:57:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, that's the one. 00:57:46 Speaker 3: See there are yeah, several of That's actually not a bad idea to get her because you know, Netflix is not a tangible object. It's not going to be adding anything to her home, and suddenly she's something that can at least guide her in getting rid of stuff. There's also you know, you send somebody over like a closet expert or something like that, you have the experience. Well, of course, yeah, we're also living in a pandemic, so this all becomes very difficult. But if you can find somebody that can go over there and help get rid of some of this crap, some of the necklaces you've been sending Holly, which, let's just say you a problem. It's time to help mom clean up the house, and this Stepdad is you know, stepping over the decades of gifts that have just kind of piled up. I think that, you know, for the you know, if your budgets smaller, the Netflix thing is perfect. You recommend the show which also feels deeply past aggressive, which it is. 00:58:48 Speaker 4: Fine, it's very passive aggressive. Or I like like a free zoom session with an organizer, right, which is also passive aggressive. But you got to tell your mom she has a problem for us, and I need to do these things. 00:59:02 Speaker 3: Right right, And I guess it just all depends on the hordor level of your mom. You know, you know, you can have someone who's just collects a little too much of it, then there's genuine, you know, dealing with the mental illness. So let's let's figure out where that where your mom lies on that category and then move forward with helping her clear out the house because uh, you know, there's don't send her another thing unless I guess maybe it's like a Actually, I'm not going to recommend a single material object, Holly, unless it's a Hailey Steinfeld poster that seems would have benefit your mother and Hailey Steinfeld. So I think we answered Holly's question. Just fine, Let's move on to the next one. This one, says Bridger. My new upstairs neighbors, whom I've never met, are constantly either drumming or dancing or tapping their feet so loud that it's driving me crazy. These are these apartments are one bedroom, so I can't imagine what the hell they're doing up there. I'm desperate for it to stop. I'd go up and talk to them in person, but feel I will most definitely come across as bitchy, and then they may purposely be louder. I understand that feeling. What's a small inexpensive gift I could leave for them with a note welcoming them they've been here for four months and then oh and here we are, and then passively aggressively asking them to stop ruining my days and nights with their incessants stopping. That's from Erica in Vancouver. So you know, we were just talking about being passive aggressive, So this is perfect. We're kind of in passive aggression territory. 01:00:32 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm sure you've dealt with upstairs neighbors, have and did you? I feel like mostly I was the upstairs for the most part. 01:00:42 Speaker 3: Oh sure you did anybody ever approach you about being loud or anything? 01:00:48 Speaker 4: No, I was so quiet, or I lived in garages. 01:00:52 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so we've got to think about you know, I think this is a good move to give the upstairs neighbor it literally anything, just to remind them that there's a human being living beneath them. Now, the curse for this upstairs neighbor, of course, is that I think being an upstairs neighbor in an apartment building, no matter what you do, you are going to be noisy and annoying. There's truly no escaping it because most apartment buildings are owned and operated by people who use the cheapest materials and the noise proof so they these places are just kind of designed to make neighbors hate each other. But let's get this upstairs neighbor. I think it's a baked good. I think that it's a nice little cake which I would not make at home because they don't know you. And nobody has a baked good from someone that they don't know. 01:01:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice from a store, I agree. Or soft slippers if you want to be going to doing soft slippers if you want to go past the aggressive. 01:01:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like that a very you know, get them an area rug, leave a giant area rug outside their apartment and they're gonna be Yeah, if it's heavy enough, they're not gonna want to take it back downstairs. They're going to have to take it into their apartment and put it on the. 01:02:15 Speaker 4: Floor, right, and a cake and or a cake. 01:02:18 Speaker 3: Right, and then they kind of get a little bit of everything. And suddenly you're spending five hundred dollars to possibly get these people to stop being And then finally, if if they if it's really annoying, eventually you just have to start ratting them out. You've got you've got to reach out to the building manager and say, there's a little bit of noise, is there anything that can be done? But I think that the slippers in a rug are kind of the key things. Or maybe you buy them like a thirteen day carnival cruise and then you put the heaps off. 01:02:52 Speaker 4: That's maybe they're trapped on a boat. That's the most expensive option. 01:02:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, right now, it's probably a deeply discounted that's true. 01:03:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I didn't think about that. 01:03:03 Speaker 3: Send your neighbors on a cruise, they open the door, they're tickets to a cruise. Nobody can resist a freak vacation and or get them a cake it on vacation. While they're on this cruise. You break into the apartment and sound proof. The options are almost endless. You're even writing in for question Erica. I mean, just off the top of our head, we've thought of some very simple solutions that will take care of the neighbor and you'll be living in peace. Also, I think that we've absolutely nailed this and I couldn't. 01:03:35 Speaker 4: Have done you. 01:03:37 Speaker 3: Thank you, what a wonderful time I've had with you here on the podcast and this gift. I'm looking forward to a dancehole workout and I will be in touch and figure that out. And it's going to be deeply uncomfortable, I imagine. 01:03:53 Speaker 4: But no, Look, you can do it with people that you like, or send it to other people who you like. It would this be over zoom? What's the what's the situation? No, it's already pre recorded, so you can open it up and work out to it anytime you want. Oh, you're kidding, No, it's that's the situation. It's pre recorded, a pre recorded thing, not in my email. What do you mean did I not send it? No, you didn't send it. Oh no, here, here's. 01:04:25 Speaker 3: Just a just literally text in the email. So there's no link or anything. 01:04:29 Speaker 4: Oh no. 01:04:30 Speaker 3: So I've been living in a little bit of confusion, and I'm glad I asked this. Is you have to ask gifts or questions about gifts because you too, the the giver doesn't quite or may have got an element. Yeah, yeah, are deeply unsatisfied. But now see I'm getting the link to this, to this workout, and I'm gonna be able to have a wonderful time. 01:04:52 Speaker 4: Yeah you need the link, Oh my god. Not just like words that say, hey, hey you can work out to if you want. 01:05:01 Speaker 3: His going to be doing a live like this is like a huge commitment for her. 01:05:07 Speaker 4: You're right here here, bridger if you want to just you know, and my husband works out with me for like the first five minutes. Okay, surely, so you'll see that he's there too. In case you're like, what's going on, that's what's happening? This strange Yeah yeah, yeah, boom, I sent it. 01:05:30 Speaker 3: Now you have a complete gift and praise everything, because I would have fallen apart otherwise you can open. 01:05:39 Speaker 4: It if you wanted to, just make sure it's real. 01:05:41 Speaker 3: Okay, fantastic, I'm gonna just click it right now while everything's on the podcast. You know, we've got the audience listening. I'm trying to keep people honest here. Oh perfect, this looks incredible. There's your husband in the background. You've got an incredible outfit on. Oh I'm thrilled about this. 01:05:59 Speaker 4: Now. Is this something anybody can access? That one's private, okay, because I sold the classes like it was like per class. But if they yeah, if they wanted to, I they're available to to purchase on my website. Oh, everybody, go buy this class. 01:06:19 Speaker 3: I mean I haven't even started it, but I'm already entertained and feel like this is going to be a wonderful workout. So go to her website buy the classes. You're inside, you should be dancing and having a nice time. Well, look, this is the end of the podcast. That's I mean, that's all I have to say. Let's go. You've been wonderful. You've been it's been delightful and I'm so happy to have had you here. Thank you for the gift, of course, and everybody go enjoy yourself for the rest of the day, or go buy a class and dance and we'll meet again at some other point. Goodbye. I said no gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Steven Raymore. Yes, the theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter. At I said no gifts, And if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave a review while you're at it? 01:07:24 Speaker 2: Well, I invited you, hear Gonta mad myself perfectly clear. 01:07:32 Speaker 1: When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. 01:07:39 Speaker 2: And I said, no guests, you're presences, presents, and and I'm already too much stuff. So how did you dad to surbey me?