1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: The Student Action Summit twenty twenty five, featuring the boldest 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: voices in the fight. Secretary Pete Hegset, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Steve Benn, Brett Cooper, Secretary Christi Nomer, Riley Gaines, Brandon Tatum, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Jack Psopa and Moore joined thousands of students, future leaders 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and freedom fighters. This is the battleground of ideas. This 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: is the Student Action Summit the Future His hours to 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: build Register now at SAS twenty twenty five dot com. 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome in to Turning Point tonight. Together 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. My 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in tonight. 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: We have a very special guest that I'm very excited 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: to talk to about his perspective on his own process 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: in decision making as well as how the country's going 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: and what are trajectory going forward looking. Please help me 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: welcome doctor Ben and Carson to the show. Doctor Carson, 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here. 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: Thank You're delighted to be here with you. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: You know, doctor Carson, just to start off, initially, you've 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: talked a lot about bridging the divide and kind of 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: unifying the country. We on the conservative side of the 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: aisle generally tend to tend to say often that we 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: have more in common than we have indifference. Can you 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: kind of speak to what it might take to bridge 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: the gap, especially considering how deep the political divide seems 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: to be in the in the modern era. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: Well, you know, interestingly enough, there there was a time 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: when democrats and Republicans argued, but they had the same goal. 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: They had different ways of getting there, but they had 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: the same goal. Now the problem is they don't have 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: the same goal. It makes things much more contentious. You know, 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: one side wants a country that's up formed by the people. 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: One side once a country that's up formed by the government. 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: And it becomes increasingly difficult to reckon sow those two policies. 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: But you know, the key thing is if we start 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: out by putting the facts in the middle of the 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: table and then discuss things based on the facts instead 37 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: of based on opinion. I think that's the way that 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: we can begin to make some progress. Also, you know, 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: as the Bible says, you know, with your enemies, be 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: nice to them, like putting coals of fire in their hair. 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: They don't like that, and there are those who actually 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: intend to divide us. If you go back and you 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: look at the Congressional record January tenth, nineteen sixty three, 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: more than sixty years ago, way before you were born. 45 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: Congressman Herlong of Florida wrote in the forty five Goals 46 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: of Communism in America, how they plan to conquer us, 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: And you'd be amazed at how many puplished already, things 48 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: like gaining control of the school system and the teaching union, 49 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: indoctrinate the kids, gaining control of Hollywood, television and news media, 50 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: so you could change the culture in America, diminishing the 51 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: role of fathers, detegrating the role of families, increasing the 52 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: role of government, making sexual perversion normal, natural and healthy, 53 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: integrating the role of the church, making the social gospel 54 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: the thing rather than the real gospel. I mean, it's 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: pretty amazing just as you go down that list, and 56 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: it's a clever idea. They knew that they could conquer 57 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: us militarily, so why not destroy you from within by 58 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: attacking your faith and your families, and our families have 59 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: been decimated. 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fascinating here you say that. 61 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: I think one of the most interesting things that I've 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: seen in the modern era is this idea that will 63 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: name me a Christian conservative artist. Right, in the last 64 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: fifty years or so, the art world has been dominated, 65 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: the culture world really has been dominated by progressive lefties. 66 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: But if you go back past that, the entire litany 67 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: of the last two thousand years have been Christian art 68 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: and Christian culture. Can you kind of speak to me, 69 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: how do we get that sense back? I think there's 70 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: a resurgence in the church happening now. We kind of 71 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: see it all around us. How do we help facilitate 72 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: that from like the media space, in this and maybe 73 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: even in our local communities. 74 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think the key thing is to talk about it, 75 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: not to be afraid, because the reason left has succeeded 76 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: is because people who think the right way have been tenant. 77 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: They stand in and stare at their feet, hoping that 78 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: no one will call them a nasty name or try 79 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: to cancel them. And you know, you can't be the 80 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: land of the free if you're not in the home 81 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: of the brave. You got to be willing to stand 82 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: up for the things that you believe in. I see 83 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 3: more people doing that now, you know, as I go 84 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: around the country, particularly in the different universities in conjunction 85 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: with Turning Point USA, I see a lot of kids 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: who are now willing to stand up for what they believe. 87 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: They used to hide in the shadows. They wear their 88 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: mega hats, they have their American flags on, and I'm 89 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: seeing that phenomenon everywhere, and people are also, you know, 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: proclaiming their faces. Look at some of these revivals that 91 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: have occurred on some of these campuses, just of revivals 92 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: because I think people have seen that the other direction 93 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: is leading us to destruction. And you see the kind 94 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: of philosophies that are coming out of it. You know, 95 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: it's okay for men to play in women's sports and 96 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: heck out of women, that's okay. Why wouldn't you do that. 97 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: It's okay to confused children about their gender when their 98 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: brains aren't fully developed, and do so that their parents 99 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: don't know because the parents will protect them. I mean, 100 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: I think if you think logically about it, you realize 101 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: that those kinds of policies are not working for us. 102 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: It's okay to have open borders and to let anybody 103 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: into our country. Now, I think what is the long 104 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: term consequences of that. That's the problem. But I think 105 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: I think our young people are waking up and I'm 106 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: proud of them. 107 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been fascinating to see. 108 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: I've been fortunate enough to be on the road with 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and the crowds have just grown and grown 110 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 2: and grown. And I'm sure you've seen it at turning 111 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: point events that you've done, and it's almost entirely students, 112 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: which is crazy, just three thousand students in a place. 113 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: So it's good to see, doctor Arson. I'd love to 114 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: narrow kind of down on your perspective. You've had obviously 115 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: a storied career at the Hut Department, but also as 116 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: a neurosurgeon. In those you you'd have to make split 117 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: decisions that really affect people's life. What is your process 118 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: of making a big decision, whether you have a long 119 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: period of time or a very very short window of 120 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: time to make what you think is the best decision 121 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: in your opinion. 122 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: Well, I do what's called a best worst analysis. I 123 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: asked questions, what's the best thing that happens if I 124 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: do this, What's the worst thing that happens if I 125 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: do this? What's the best thing that happens if I 126 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: don't do this. What's the worst thing that happens if 127 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: I don't do this? And by those four questions and 128 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: answering them, it generally will put you on the right pathway. 129 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: And a lot of times when people don't ask those 130 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: questions and something happens, they say, why didn't I ask 131 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: myself that question? 132 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow, so simple as that. 133 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: Actually wrote a book about it. 134 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, ware, that's a people to go go check 135 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: that out. You know. 136 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: Part of the other the other elements that you've been 137 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: so vocal about is education being the way forward to 138 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: get out of poverty, to get out of bad situations. 139 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: Now that is somewhat of a contentious issue because then 140 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: people go, well, then why are you trying to abolish 141 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: the Department of Education? And again, I don't necessarily know 142 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: your opinion on that specifically, but I've heard you say 143 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: a couple of times, you know where true education lies 144 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 2: outside of the school system. How can you know parents 145 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: outside of going to school board meetings, cause we all 146 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: know that's that's a good idea, But how can parents 147 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: kind of facilitate that growth and education to make sure 148 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: their kids have all of the opportunities that can be 149 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: afforded to them. 150 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you can't just tell them that 151 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: they're things. You have to show them. So for example, 152 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: you know, get your book out read with them. You know, 153 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: things that really impress me. And I was still practicing. 154 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: His parents would come to me and they would say, 155 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: a pediatrician wants me to start a little Johnny or 156 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: little Susan on such and such medication for attention death disorder. 157 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: And before you do that, let me ask you a 158 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: couple of questions. I said, Can they watch television? Oh, yeah, 159 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: they watched Tugion all day? Can they play video? Oh, 160 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: all day and all night? I said, I'll tell you what, 161 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: before we start them on the medication for the next 162 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: three months, I want you to wean them off of 163 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: those things in substitute quality time with you reading and 164 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: discussing the material. And then when you come back, let 165 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: me know if you still need the medication. In most cases, 166 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: they did not need the medication anymore. It's a pseudo phenomenon. 167 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: And you know, you take a little kid from the 168 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: time they're born, as soon as they can sit up, 169 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: what do you do prop them up in front of TV? 170 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: Zip chips zim zim zoom. They get a little older, 171 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: they get a little manudexterity. You give them the controls 172 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: to the video game Zip chip jip zim zim zoom. 173 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden, they're five or six. You 174 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: put them in a classroom and the teacher's not turning 175 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: into something every few seconds. You think they're going to 176 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: pay attention. Probably not. So we need to spend a 177 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: little more time with our children. And there's a reason 178 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: that God formed families, and you know, we have a 179 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 3: real problem with family formation right now. And with childbirth. 180 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: We've gone in the sixties from an average of three 181 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: point six verst per woman to one point six. 182 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, wow. 183 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: That's going to have a dramatic impact on our population 184 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: if we don't pay attention to it. 185 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if I were to characterize, and please 186 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, it sounds like, you know, 187 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: sometimes parenting is difficult, but it's worth the struggle through 188 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: not putting them in front of an iPad because you know, 189 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: it may have repercussions down the road that aren't exactly 190 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: in the best interest of the kid. If that's hope 191 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm characterizing that correctly. 192 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: That's correct. And in my case, you know, one of 193 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: the things that I hate it. In fact, the thing 194 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: that I hated the most growing up was poverty. Some 195 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: people hate rats and roaches and snakes, and I hate 196 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: it poverty. That is until my mother made me start 197 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: reading books and I began to read about explorers and 198 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: entrepreneurs and engineers and scientists and surgeons. I begin to 199 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: understand that the person who has the most to do 200 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: it what happens to you, is you. It's not circumstances, 201 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: it's not some other person. And when I realized that 202 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 3: poverty didn't bother me anymore because I knew, because I 203 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: knew it was temporary, I knew I could actually. 204 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: Wow now that actually that actually would lead into my 205 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: next question, which I would love for you to answer, 206 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: But doctor Ben Carson is chatting with us. He'll be 207 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: right back after the break to discuss my question of well, 208 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: how did you define success? Because I think that's a 209 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: great little lead into that Turning Point tonight. 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This 225 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: is the Student Action Summit the Future his hours to build. 226 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: Register now at SAS twenty twenty five dot com. 227 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Turning Point tonight. We're together. We are 228 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. We are joined 229 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,359 Speaker 2: by doctor Ben Carson, the chairman of the American Cornerstone Institute, 230 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: as well as the former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. 231 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: Doctor Carson, you were kind kind of left this off 232 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: at the last segment, you said, well, you know, I 233 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: didn't care about poverty anymore because I was able to 234 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: learn and read about explorers with this very very hyper 235 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: focus on material in the country and people, you know, 236 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: hating guys like Elon Musk and people who have made 237 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: wealth for themselves, but also for other people. How do 238 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: you define success? Because so many people think, well, success 239 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: is my bank account or how much money I make, 240 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: or how many things I have, or how many show 241 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: up things I'm able to show off to my friends. 242 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: In your view of just overall life, how do you 243 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: define success? Maybe outside of the materialistic norms, I. 244 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: Would say success is happiness and contentment. If you're pleased 245 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: with your situation. You know, there are people who who 246 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: live out in the middle of the forest the material 247 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: thinks and there's happy as a lark, yeah out there. 248 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: So there's no question that if you if you live 249 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: in Martin society, it's probably easier if you have money 250 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: and resources, know, beg for those things who are scratched 251 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: in the dirt to find those things. So, and I 252 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: tell young people all the time, the reason your education 253 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: is so important is because the more you know, the 254 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: more valuable you become, and the more valuable you are, 255 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: people tend to pay you, so you do okay, you know, 256 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: you know, a large salary may not be your final 257 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: goal or your most important goal, but it certainly helps 258 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: to alleviate some of the difficulties in life. 259 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: True. Yeah, interesting. 260 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: Now, given the word somewhat of a contentious time in 261 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: American culture, I would love it. And that's put you 262 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: on the spot here. What is what is something that 263 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: you're concerned about going forward in the next in the 264 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: next couple of years, maybe even over the course of 265 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: the next generation. And what are you maybe optimistic about, like, oh, 266 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: this is this is great, this is happening now and 267 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: we're really to see this grow. 268 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: Well, the thing that concerns me the most is the 269 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: the business that's going on inside, the outright hatred. Uh 270 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: you know, the whole cancel culture that has cropped up argideo. 271 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: Christian values teach us to love your neighbor, not to 272 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: cancel your neighbor if they have a different yard time 273 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I say, hatred and division have 274 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: waxed for a long time. Now it's time to let 275 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: them wane. W a n E that stands for we 276 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: are not enemies, and there are those who want to 277 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: drive vodges in us on the basis of race, age, gender, religion, 278 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: political affiliation, because that's how they derive their power. And 279 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: if we succumb to that, we will not succeeds. There's 280 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: a house divided against itself cannot stand and never stood, 281 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: it won't stand now. So we need the kind of 282 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: leadership that helps to draw people together. And you know, 283 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: we have a lot more things that draw us together 284 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: than that divide us. But it's up to our leadership 285 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: to help point those things out and help people to 286 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: recognize that that person who's next to you, who has 287 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: a different yards on it, a different opinion, it's still 288 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: your neighbor. And one of the reasons that we succeeded 289 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: as a nation early on, even though we had people 290 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 3: who came from all kinds of different places, in many 291 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: cases spoke different languages, is because they understood the concept 292 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 3: of the common good. That was a phrase you drop 293 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: much in the Founder's writings, the common good, and that 294 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: what's good for this group versus that group, but what's 295 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 3: good for all of us? And if it was harvest 296 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: season and mister Johnson fell out of the apple tree 297 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 3: and broke us, Like, guess what everybody else harvested his crops. 298 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: They didn't want to know what his religion was, didn't 299 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 3: want to know his politics. They just said, he's our 300 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 3: neighbor and he needs help. You know, we need to 301 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: get back to that again. 302 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And what what's something that you think you're you're 303 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: optimistic about that you kind of see ground swell coming 304 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: and and this is this is what we should look 305 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: out for and keep an eye on and and help 306 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: flourish in the in the coming years. 307 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: Well, I'm optimistic about the young people. The young people 308 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: see uh at TPA events, uh TPU SA events and 309 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: just around the country in general. A lot of the 310 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: lectures that I give you know about pro life, about education, 311 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot more younger people in the audience 312 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 3: and they seem to be very enthusiastic, and I think 313 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: a lot of them are actually starting to learn about 314 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: our history, the reality of America, the good, the band 315 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: and the ugly. But if you're honest, there's a heck 316 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: of a lot more good than there is bad and ugly. 317 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: And we have people who have seized upon the bad 318 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: and ugly and trying to make that the central focus 319 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: of who we are. And you know, particularly they seize 320 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: up on things like slavery and say, you know, we're 321 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: evil because of the slavery. They know anything about oral history, 322 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: they would know that any civilization has struggled with And 323 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: the thing that makes us unique is that we had 324 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: so many people who vehemently opposed it that we thought 325 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: a bloody civil war and lost a large portion of 326 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 3: our population to get rid of it. 327 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, can considering the fact that this 328 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: is a resurgence that doesn't come with no criticism, how 329 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: do you what is your maybe advice to kids, but 330 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: also really anybody who is standing up for truth and 331 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: what they believe in, and how they deal with the 332 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: criticism that comes right, because I know, I know you've 333 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: dealt with a lot of criticism. How what is your 334 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: process of dealing with that and continuing to press forward? 335 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: Well, see, I maybe have a little unique way of 336 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 3: dealing with that. I have great faith in God and 337 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 3: in the hereafter, and I say, whatever you suffer in 338 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: this lifetime is a spec against the backdrop of eternity. 339 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: All that in perspective. Yeah, uh, you know, I used 340 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: to think it would bother me a lot if I 341 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: got public criticism and I came to find out that 342 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 3: it doesn't bother me. 343 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 4: At all, just able to just kind of smart. 344 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, if we When you know what you believe in, 345 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: what you believe is true, then there's really not much 346 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: anybody else can say. Uh, that's that's that's solid advice. 347 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: Doctor Carson. 348 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: You're the chairman of the American Cornerstone Institute. What is 349 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: the goal of the American Cornerstone Institute. What are you 350 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: striving to get to people? 351 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: What is you know? Tell us about it? 352 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: Thanks for asking that question. You know, we look at 353 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: the cornerstone principles that made us into a great country 354 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: and emphasize those. We're both a think tank and a 355 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: do tank. Those cornerstone principles are faith. It's our faith 356 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: that teaches us how to live together peacefully, love you, liberty. 357 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 3: The thing that brought so many people to our shores 358 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: from all over the world. The ability to lead the 359 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: life that you want to lead without having somebody dictating 360 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: to you and mandating what you must do. And a 361 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: lot of people say no, no, America is not like that. 362 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: America is a systemically racist place. It's unfair to people 363 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: if we were all that bad? Why is everybody trying 364 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: to get in here? I think about that. And then 365 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 3: the cornerstone of community, of caring about each other, of 366 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: working together, of creating unity which gave us a normal strength, 367 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: and then life, respect for life from the womb to 368 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: the tomb. You know, as we've lost that respect for life, 369 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 3: look what's happened to our relationship with each other. And 370 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: then we have a pediatric component called a Little Patriots Program, 371 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: and we teach the children everything about our history, the 372 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: good to bad and ugly. We have k through five 373 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: learning programs online free of charge. By the way, a 374 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: number of schools are using them. Now we have a 375 00:22:53,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: cartoon series called Star Spangled Adventures. Each episode takes one 376 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: aspect of our history and makes the state of it. 377 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: And they're so interesting that most of the little kids, 378 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: when you show them one, their next question is can 379 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: I see another one? And then we have the Executive 380 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: Branch for America program, which teaches people how our government works. 381 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: And it's a certification program. You can get certified. It's 382 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: free of charge. Also, but so many people don't know 383 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: how our government works. And we particularly aim it toward 384 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: college students because you'll learn stuff and this that you 385 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: won't get in your political science classes. And we have 386 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: Sarah Huckabee Sanders interviewing a lot of people in their 387 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: positions and government, so you can get a feel for 388 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: exactly what do they do. Yeah, you know, doing everything 389 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: we can to try to fortify our country for future. 390 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, that's incredible. 391 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: My wife and I have about a two year old 392 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: and one on the way, and we don't let them 393 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: watch the iPad because what we talked about previously, but 394 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 2: when we do, inevitably it sounds like we got some 395 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: cartoons to watch. And also, one of the other things 396 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: you said that I think should be repeated, You're not 397 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: just a think tank, your do tank. I love that 398 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: because so many think tanks what do they even do? 399 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: They just sit around and think all day and nothing 400 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: comes of it. But uh yeah, doctor Carson, thank you 401 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Really appreciate you and all 402 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: the work that you do to fight for core values 403 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: in this country. 404 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining. 405 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: Us, thanks for having us, and thanks for van Patriot. 406 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Coming up on turning point tonight, 407 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: we've got a fantastic clip from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. 408 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: Don't go away. 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Things 424 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 10: are bright. Well, the reason things are too bright for 425 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 10: most people is because they don't get out at dawn 426 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 10: to see the sunrise, and if they did, their eyes 427 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 10: would adjust to the sun and they wouldn't need sunglasses. 428 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 10: The second reason people wear them is because of the ultraviolet, 429 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 10: and we've been told forever from optometrists and doctors that 430 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 10: UV is bad for the eyes. And in fact, our 431 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 10: eyes have receptors to read the ultraviolet light, and when 432 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 10: we cover them with sunglasses, we cannot read how much 433 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 10: UV is in the sun, and so we get sunburned. 434 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 10: When we can read how much UV is in the sun, 435 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 10: by not wearing sunglasses, we can create melanin on our 436 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 10: skin to absorb the ultraviolet, which creates vitamin D or 437 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 10: hormone D in the body. It increases nitric oxide, which 438 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 10: lowers blood pressure. All these beautiful benefits from the sun. 439 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 10: But we don't get it if we cover our eyes 440 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 10: with sunglasses because we cannot see any of the UV 441 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 10: to tell our body what to. 442 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: Do in the sun. 443 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 5: So when you're saying that you can tell when you're 444 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 5: going to get sunburned if you don't have sunglasses on, Like, 445 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 5: what do you mean by that? 446 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 10: Your body is really intelligent. It was designed perfectly, and 447 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 10: it was designed to work with nature and the sun. 448 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 10: So our eyes have receptors for the UV light and 449 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 10: it reads how much UV is present in the sun, 450 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 10: and it tells your body how to utilize that UV light. 451 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 10: For health, and part of that is putting melanin or 452 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 10: darker pigmentation into the skin to trap more of those 453 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 10: sunlight photons because they're healing and when you create the melanin, 454 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 10: you don't get sunburned. Your body knows how to protect itself. 455 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 5: Okay, So when I lay out, I need to make 456 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 5: sure I'm not wearing sunglasses. 457 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: That is critical. 458 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 10: So most people they like fashionable, right, Yeah, I look 459 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 10: good in these sunglasses, so they want to wear them outside. 460 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 10: But the fact is that nature sets our biological clocks, 461 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 10: and when we wear sunglasses and sunscreen and clothes and hats. 462 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 10: It's like if you cover an orange tree with a tarp. 463 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 10: So you put a tarp over an orange tree, what's 464 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 10: going to happen to the orange tree? 465 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: It's going to die. 466 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 10: Same thing with us when you cover us with sunglasses 467 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 10: and we hide from the sun. It's not how we 468 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 10: were born. We didn't come out, you know, wearing clothes 469 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 10: and sunglasses. So our biology is too boned and designed 470 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 10: to utilize the sun. And when we cover up, we 471 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 10: become less healthy. 472 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 5: So you are an expert in all things circadian rhythm 473 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 5: and light diet, as I like to call it. So 474 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 5: what time are you waking up and what time are 475 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 5: you going to bed? 476 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: Great question. 477 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 10: So I wake up with the sun, and that is 478 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 10: a different time all year. So in the winter that 479 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 10: might be seven o'clock in the morning. That's hard when 480 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 10: you have a full time corporate job. And what I 481 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 10: try to tell people, and it's a quote from a 482 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 10: book and I love it, is sleep as much as 483 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 10: you can without getting fired or divorced. So it's true 484 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 10: that the more sleep we get, the healthier we are. 485 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 10: Especially in the winter. You don't need to sleep as 486 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 10: much in my opinion and from everything I've studied, in 487 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 10: the summer. So this eight hours of sleep a night, 488 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 10: I think is both like you actually need to sleep 489 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 10: less in the summer and more in the winter. And 490 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 10: that's how we're biologically designed. So I almost always get 491 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 10: up with the dawn and get outside, bear no glasses, 492 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 10: no sunglasses, no contacts, and see the sunrise. 493 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 5: Now you live in Wisconsin, you're a Midwest guy, I am. 494 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: So in the winter, are you going out in the 495 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 5: snow barefoot? 496 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: Sometimes? 497 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: Really? 498 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 10: So if I could go out every day in the 499 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 10: snow barefoot, I would. Now my wife and I go 500 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 10: out every single day and see the sunrise at dawn. 501 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 10: We made a commitment for the rest of our lives 502 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 10: that we will not miss one day. If you're barefoot, 503 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 10: it slows down the photons of the sun. This gets 504 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 10: a little technical, but what it's doing is it's creating 505 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 10: things hormones in your body from sunlight. By being barefoot 506 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 10: and looking in the direction of the sun at dawn, 507 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 10: it turns on your testosterone for men and estrogen for women. 508 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: You committed to every single day seeing the sunrise. Absolutely 509 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 5: what if you're sick, get outside, Wow. 510 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 4: Because you're going to heal you. 511 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 10: The sun is healing. 512 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 5: So I remember, like you know, when you're reading like 513 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: old books like the Victorian era or something, the doctors 514 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 5: are always like, you need the sun when you're sick, 515 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 5: go to the seaside, It'll heal you. Is there truth 516 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: to this? 517 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: Okay? 518 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 10: So I used to read a lot of those books too, 519 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 10: and I'm always like, what is the deal with people 520 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 10: like I have rheumatism, I have this, I have that, 521 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 10: And they keep leaving to go south or to the seaside. 522 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 10: Their doctor is like, go to the sea, go to 523 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 10: the ocean. And in fact, in Europe they used to 524 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 10: have sunlight wings of the hospital even so they would 525 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 10: put babies and sick people in the direct sunlight outdoors. 526 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 10: They had windows and doors that opened in the hospital 527 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 10: and they would put the sickest patients there. Or now 528 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 10: the seashore has additional benefits like ozone grounding, but the 529 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 10: sunlight is absolutely healing. And when you're barefoot on the ground, 530 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 10: and especially at the sea shore, it's even extra healing 531 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 10: because of the ozone that's coming in from that ocean wave. 532 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 10: That is healing, and that makes a ton of sense. 533 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 10: You do heal when you're on vacation. Think about how 534 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 10: much better you feel and how much happy you are 535 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 10: when you're on the beach on vacation. It's a real thing. 536 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: Well and correct me if I'm wrong. You know more 537 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: than me. But also part of the reason we feel 538 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: so much better ocean side is the negative ions coming 539 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 5: from the waves. 540 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: Right. 541 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 5: And don't you get similar benefits to lighting beeswax candles. 542 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 10: Yes, so you can get negative ions from a number 543 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 10: of things like some of those salt rock lamps. Yes, 544 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 10: those can give off negative ions as well if you 545 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 10: have the right light, if you put an led light 546 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 10: in there, it's not working. But if you put an 547 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 10: incandescent light inside your salt rock lamp, you get the 548 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 10: negative ions coming off. Oh wow, same with on the 549 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 10: sea shore. So those negative ions. Here's the deal. When 550 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 10: we have inflammation in the body, it's positive charge. How 551 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 10: do we get rid of positive charge, which is inflammation 552 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 10: which leads to disease. We want to get rid of 553 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 10: that and absorb electrons negative charge. The more electrons we have, 554 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 10: the more energy we have, the more our cells can 555 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 10: heal themselves. So standing barefoot on the ground dumps positive 556 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 10: charge into the ground and absorbs free electrons. Just like 557 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 10: burning beeswax candles, just like the salt rock lamp, and 558 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 10: just like being on the ocean, right on the shore 559 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 10: of the beach. All of those negative ions are free 560 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 10: electron energy for the body. 561 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: And I love that. Almost everything that we're talking about, 562 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 5: for the most part, besides like as salt lamp or whatever, 563 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 5: or a candle which costs barely anything. I mean, this 564 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 5: is free. This is free stuff that can greatly benefit 565 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 5: your health. 566 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 10: I kind of grew up in the biohacking space, and 567 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 10: in the biohacking space, it's chasing supplements and magic technology devices, 568 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 10: and they're all really expensive and if they all worked perfectly. Now, 569 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 10: some supplements are great, but a lot of the devices 570 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 10: they don't work perfectly, So people chase the next one 571 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 10: and the next one, and they're spending so much money 572 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 10: that what we decided is we wanted to look at 573 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 10: how to take biohacking and make it nature based, because 574 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 10: some of those things work better. So if you're going 575 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 10: to invest money in a supplement, or if you're going 576 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 10: to invest money in a device, it will work better 577 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 10: if you're already doing the free, natural things that tune 578 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 10: your body up. 579 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 5: How is the light in our homes and then in 580 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 5: our workspace office is really making us sick. 581 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 10: So many ways, So we are a light poisoned population. 582 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 10: The light that we're exposed to is highly intense in 583 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 10: the blue color of light. So if you look around 584 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 10: yourself on your device, your tablet, your phone, your television, 585 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 10: your laptop, the overhead lighting at the office or the gym, 586 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 10: it doesn't look blue. But that white light that we 587 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 10: see is based on a blue led technology. So the 588 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 10: thing that drives the light out of those lights that 589 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 10: are all around us now that everything's led, is blue 590 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 10: frequencies of light, and so if you analyze it with 591 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 10: a scientific instrument, it will show you there's no infrared, 592 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 10: almost zero red light, very little yellow, and a ton 593 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 10: of blue light. Blue light in itself is not bad, 594 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 10: but blue light becomes toxic when we're exposed to too 595 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 10: much of it. It messes with our circadian rhythm. It 596 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 10: is actually associated with cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and obesity 597 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 10: if we see it after sunset and macular degeneration during 598 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 10: the day because we have so much of it hitting 599 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 10: our eyes causing for your radicals. 600 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 5: How do you know if your circadian rhythm is off? 601 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 10: You would know if your circadian rhythm, which is this 602 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 10: natural twenty four hour cycle that's designed into our biology 603 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 10: and it is controlled by light and dark cycles of 604 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 10: the earth, it will be off if you're not waking 605 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 10: up and seeing the sunrise and seeing the sunset at night, 606 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 10: and then not seeing any light after the sunsets. Now, 607 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 10: how many of us none have the lights off after 608 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 10: the sunsets, especially in winter when it Wisconsin, it's four 609 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 10: pm when the sun sets. 610 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: Immediately, Nobody has thought about you, who's just twenty four 611 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: to seven flooding the zone. 612 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 9: Back to my thirteen year old owning this space every. 613 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 11: Day getting a convert and then I'm thinking about we're 614 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 11: gonna stand back and watch you. 615 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 9: Run circles around us. 616 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 7: He said it best at Turning Point, USA, where relentless 617 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 7: we're changing minds on campuses every semester, defending conservative values 618 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 7: and fighting for America's future. 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We read every single one of 645 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: your emails, every single line, every single word, every single punctuation. 646 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: We click on every single link and even read all 647 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 2: of those words as well. TPT at TPUSA dot com. 648 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: Turning Point Tonight, that's what TPT stands for. T TPT 649 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: at tbusa dot com email anytime you want. You know, 650 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a Maga Monday type 651 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: of clip, but I do think it's fascinating and interesting. 652 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: We'll call it a Maga Monday clip. Watch Watch this 653 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 2: that it will discuss. 654 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 11: We're standing on the ancestral and unseated land of the 655 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 11: Tanawanda tribe with gratitude. 656 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 4: Talking about my cousin's place. 657 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 11: Okay, but before that, it was the Tonawanda's place. 658 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 10: It was unjustly taken from them. 659 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 9: Actually used to belong to my great uncle Lorenzo and 660 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 9: to my good for nothing Uncle Aldo lost the will 661 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 9: and swindled it from my aunt burned dad, even though 662 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 9: the grandfather clearly left at all the kids. Okay, fine, 663 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 9: but long before that it was taken from the Tonawanda. 664 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 9: Who would they take it from. 665 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: There's no record that they took it from anyone. 666 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 9: So now we gotta reward them and keeping bad records, 667 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 9: just like Uncle Aldo. We're not rewarding them, Guido, we're 668 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 9: simply acknowledging that. 669 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: Well, that's worse. 670 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 9: That's like robbing a bank and then braging about it. 671 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm not bragging about it. 672 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 9: If you're not giving them money back, then you're bragging 673 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 9: about it. 674 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 11: It's not mine to get back. 675 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 4: Well, there's the problem. 676 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 11: They were right, I mean, we're wrong. 677 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: It's wrong. 678 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 9: It's important to acknowledge that the Tonawanda tribe is indigenous 679 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 9: to this region. So are my cousins my aunt burned there, 680 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 9: squeeze out all twelve of them in a bad bedroom. 681 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 9: Will look on the porch, that porch right over there. 682 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 4: This is why, Okay, here's why. 683 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: I think this is like kind of a Maga Monday 684 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: clip because I think people making fun of the things 685 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: that we're talking about, the idea of land acknowledgments. 686 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 4: This land once belonged to this Indian tribe and. 687 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: Okay, well who did they take it from through force 688 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 2: and conquer it from another tribecause that's how that all works. 689 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: I think people making fun of that, especially in that 690 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 2: kind of way. I don't think that was like a 691 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: conservative outlet. 692 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 4: Maybe it was. I don't know. 693 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: I found that clip on the internet. It could have 694 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: been the Babylon, but it could have been somebody on 695 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: our side. But the fact that it's being made fun of, 696 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: I think as an indicator that Mega is just winning, 697 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: We're just taking over the culture, and I just I 698 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: think that's the best thing that can happen. So yeah, 699 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: I always think it's funny to make fun of the 700 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 2: dumb things the libs are doing. As I say, often 701 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: there is a secret plot that is run by conservatives 702 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: with the intent of making liberals look stupid, and that 703 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 2: secret plot is called let Them Talk Operation. 704 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: Let Them Talk. 705 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: It's actually working out beautifully, and the more we make 706 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: fun of that, I think the better situation will be. 707 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 4: And let's let's get to another clip. Watch this, good man. 708 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, pause this really clip. Let me set let 709 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: me set this up really quick. I should have set 710 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 2: this up by This is the most patient person I've 711 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. If I were sitting in 712 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 2: this seat, I would be panicking. That's the setup. There's 713 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: not much discussion needed afterward. 714 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: Watch this, good man. 715 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 6: Okay to me, you gonna hit him. 716 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: He did not have the right away. 717 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: There's a person. 718 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 6: There's a person. 719 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: I know. 720 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 4: That's why I'm droving solar. 721 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. 722 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 4: Mister didn't. 723 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 11: Well, no, he was moving erotically, you know what I mean, 724 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 11: Like I don't want to and now. 725 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 6: I got cut off by the taxi. 726 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: The guy was walking back and forth. 727 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 6: I don't want to. 728 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: There's a whole trunk. 729 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 6: There's a whole trunk. 730 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 3: Stop. 731 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 2: Why was. 732 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 3: Cars going to straw? You have the right way? Cars 733 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 3: turning left have to wait. 734 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 6: Right? Okay, yeah, got you? 735 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 7: Stop that. 736 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 6: Go around, say nope, look at your mirror, look at 737 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 6: your blue spot. Is it safe? 738 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a red lay. 739 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 6: Now we're in the intersection. Turn right place, so exit 740 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 6: this intersection because we're in it and we have to 741 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 6: get out of it into your land. Please make sure 742 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 6: it's safe. Right, all right, good, okay. 743 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 4: All right, all right. Sorry. I know that was long. 744 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: But if you were like me, you're sitting there going, 745 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, they're gonna hit a person. 746 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 4: There's a bus. 747 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: The calmness that that guy had, maybe we should have 748 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: that guy teach lessons to all the libs. Hey, if 749 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: you're mad about something, that's okay, just kind of let 750 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: it settle, live with it, process it, and figure out 751 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: a tactful way to approach it. 752 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: There's a whole bus coming. There's a bus coming. There's 753 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 4: a whole bus coming. 754 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: No, maybe maybe you should be a little bit more frantic, 755 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 2: because that's actually a really serious and immediate situation. 756 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 4: But I liked that guy's just overall demeanor. 757 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: It made me feel Actually, no, it made me feel 758 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: email the show, What did you feel at home? DPT 759 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: ATPU say dot God, I'm actually very curious what other 760 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: people felt watching that. I was like, Ah, they're gonna crash. 761 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna die. This is not good. So there's that. 762 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: Do we have time for this? Go ahead and play 763 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: it and we'll cut it off if we need to 764 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: check this out. 765 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 11: Here, I am pushing a Lisa's car problem by myself. 766 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: Who he's a guy when you have me. 767 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 2: So three hours later of trying to get a list's 768 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 2: car to work, and uh, it's clear to. 769 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 11: Say that I had hopefully what I was doing. 770 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: And I guess we do mean then, because the whole 771 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: inside of my car exploded. Now, if you have that problem, 772 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: you need to hopefully you're calling. The guy who was 773 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: in that driving school seat would be like, Hey, don't 774 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 2: worry about it, It'll be fine. Otherwise, I don't know. 775 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: Some people might be pretty upset by that. 776 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: That's gonna do it first here at turning point tonight, 777 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: Charlie's gonna take usut. Well, see you tomorrow, same time, 778 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: same place. God blessed America. 779 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 7: How have you been treated by the trans jihadists? 780 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 3: Riley? 781 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 11: Oh gosh, we could spend the rest of our of 782 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 11: our allotted time talking about this. I will say it's remarkable. 783 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 11: The shift that we have seen again when you compare 784 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 11: now to three years ago, and that's that's across every 785 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 11: realm of society right even on you know, watching the 786 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 11: football field, you've got people like Nick Bosa out there 787 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 11: doing the little Trump dance that couldn't have happened three 788 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 11: years ago. He was fined over eleven thousand dollars for 789 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 11: wearing a Maga hat. They told him, they asked him, 790 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 11: you know, do you regret this? He said, no, I 791 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 11: would do it again. The next day he gets out 792 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 11: there and does that little dance. And while that dance 793 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 11: might seem silly, it might seem like it's, you know, 794 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 11: just a silly little movement celebration. No, that dance represents 795 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 11: a whole lot. It represents free speech, It represents how 796 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 11: cancel culture is losing its grip. It represents patriotism that 797 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 11: I believe people have been desperate for. But to answer 798 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 11: your question, all that's all that to a test to 799 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 11: the shift that we have seen, and certainly since November fifth, 800 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 11: and even more so since January twentieth, I compare that 801 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 11: to three years ago. Let me just tell you actually 802 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 11: what my university did to me. Take you back to 803 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 11: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. I will never forget 804 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 11: when we learned of who Will Thomas was, When we 805 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 11: learned he was going to be competing in the pool 806 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 11: with us, When we learned he was going to be 807 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 11: sharing a locker room with us, my whole team opposed this. Right, 808 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 11: my team of forty girls. None of us thought this 809 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 11: was was fair or safe, or righteous, or moral or 810 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 11: just by any means, but our university that they sat 811 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 11: us down in a room. We had to do restorative 812 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 11: justice circles. We had to go to verbatim, these educational 813 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 11: meetings where we weren't allowed to leave until they until verbatim, 814 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 11: they felt like we had been properly re educated. We 815 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 11: were told, you're going to lose all of your friends 816 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 11: if you speak out about this. You know, lifelong friends, 817 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 11: friends you've had for forever. They're not gonna want to 818 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 11: talk to you anymore. They said, Riley, you know your 819 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 11: plan is dental school after college. Well you'll never get in. 820 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 11: No dental school will ever even look at your application 821 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 11: if you speak up about this, because they're going to 822 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 11: see that you're a transpho. And if you want a 823 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 11: job after college, forget it. It's standard practice for an 824 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 11: employer to look up their candidates for their job, and 825 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 11: they will never hire you. 826 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: Uh. 827 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 11: You know, Riley, you signed that scholarship and you did 828 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 11: it willingly. And when you did, you gave away your 829 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 11: rights to speak your own personal capacity. Remember who you represent, 830 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 11: whose name is across your chest and across your cap, 831 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 11: because it's not yours, it's ours. And understand we have 832 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 11: already taken your stance for you. I will never forget 833 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 11: when they sat us down as a team, they brought 834 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 11: in an outside professional, whatever that means. I don't know 835 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 11: what qualifications you need for this job. But she set 836 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 11: us down and she said, what it sounds like you're 837 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 11: advocating for is segregation. And do you remember how America 838 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 11: treated African Americans? Is that the side of history you 839 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 11: want to be on? You know who else advocated for segregation? 840 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 11: The KKK. That is who you are linking yourself to 841 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 11: if you oppose undressing next to a man, they told 842 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 11: us point blank, outright that we would be equivalent to 843 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 11: murderers because we would have blood on our hands, and 844 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 11: they would follow it with and you don't want that. 845 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 11: You don't want to be a murderer, do you no? 846 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 11: So I suggest you be kind and I suggest you'd 847 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 11: be inclusive and believe it or not, that is effective. 848 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 4: That works. 849 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 11: Telling girls are going to be racist murderers if they 850 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 11: defend themselves, or god forbid, they're people like my younger sister, 851 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 11: it's emotional blackmail. But when you're talking to eighteen, nineteen 852 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 11: twenty year old girls, they knew what they were doing. 853 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 11: But to speak more specifically to the transactivists, it was 854 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 11: actually at a turning point event at San Francisco State 855 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 11: University where I went there to share my message. Again, 856 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 11: nothing even really opinionated. It was at that point. I mean, 857 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 11: I pretty much only spoke to my lived experience, and 858 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 11: it was a classroom setting, so you know, a podium 859 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 11: at the front, seats out in the audience like a 860 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 11: whiteboard behind me. And upon delivering my message, a group 861 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 11: of protesters Russian they turn off the lights, hundreds of them. 862 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 11: They turn off the lights to the room so it's 863 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 11: pitch black, and they ambush me like I'm fully accosted. 864 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 11: I'm being pushed, I'm being shoved, I'm being like punched 865 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 11: in the face by these men wearing dresses, which fortunately 866 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 11: for me. Their punches don't hurt that bad, but nonetheless, 867 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 11: these protesters ended up barricading me in a room and 868 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 11: holding me for ransom for about I mean for almost 869 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 11: five hours, demanding that if I wanted to make it 870 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 11: back home to see my family safely again, I had 871 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 11: to pay them money. You might be wondering where were 872 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 11: the police. We were in San Francisco, so the police 873 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 11: were being held for ransom with me our three in 874 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 11: this room, right, I'm looking at them. Can't you do something? 875 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 11: Isn't it actually your job to do something, to which 876 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 11: they outright said no, no, we can't do anything. We're 877 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 11: not allowed to do anything because we're not allowed to 878 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 11: be seen as anything other than an ally to that 879 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 11: community or else we'll lose our jobs again, the same 880 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 11: community who's on the other side of the door calling 881 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 11: these officers racist pigs for protecting a white girl like me. Anyways, 882 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 11: it's about midnight at this point, the middle of the night, 883 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 11: and the dean of students shows up and starts negotiating 884 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 11: with the students how much I owe each of them 885 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 11: to be able to leave, which the price they agreed 886 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 11: upon was ten dollars each, which makes me mad because 887 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 11: I think I'm worth more than ten dollars. Eventually we 888 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 11: were able to get out of that room, but not 889 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 11: because the protesters dispersed or were letting up decided to 890 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 11: go home, know about I mean, however, many officers had 891 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 11: to form a diamond around me we pushed out. But 892 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 11: the most remarkable part about this story is what happened 893 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 11: the next day when the vice president of student Affairs 894 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 11: at the university so now a university wide email so 895 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 11: to all faculty, all staff, the entire student body. And 896 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 11: in this email she said, we are so proud of 897 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 11: our brave students for handling Riley Gaines and the manner 898 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 11: that they did. We know how deeply traumatic her presence 899 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 11: is on this campus. And so here's some counseling resources 900 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 11: for you all. You know, take the day off of school. 901 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 11: Just know that we see you, we love you, we 902 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 11: hear you, and we stand with you. No mention of, 903 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 11: of of course, the condemnation of violence, violence against women 904 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 11: for that matter. No mention of the value and upholding 905 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 11: free speech, no, of course not. I could tell story 906 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 11: after story after story of being spit on, of people 907 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 11: throwing glass bottles at me, pouring drinks on me for hours. 908 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 11: But again that shift that we've seen, and I mean 909 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 11: to be very clear, from the beginning the support has 910 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 11: been tenfold compared to the negative. But you compare three 911 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 11: years ago to now, A lot of the support at 912 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 11: the beginning was in privacy or in secrecy, or in 913 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 11: direct messages or done through winks or whispers. That is 914 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 11: totally shifted. Now people are so much more bold and 915 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 11: saying men cannot become women. 916 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 7: It