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Speaker 1: Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo territory.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike di Giovanna, former La Times Baseball writer

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Speaker 1: and host of the show, joined by my regular co

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Speaker 1: host Mark Trumbo, the former Angel slugger, and Alden Gonzalez

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Speaker 1: of ESPN, and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Alden, good to have you.

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Speaker 3: Great to be here, guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, we appreciate it. We're going to have several topics

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Speaker 1: to talk about today, including some interesting Angel highlights from

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Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic, a new team, well, a new

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Speaker 1: TV deal kind of for the Angels. Looks like we

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Speaker 1: have some resolution on that. But first we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about a story that Alden broke early Friday morning,

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Speaker 1: and that has to do with a regime change at

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Speaker 1: the top of the Angels organization. John Carpino, team president

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Speaker 1: for the last sixteen years Ardi Morino was right hand

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Speaker 1: man for the last twenty three years, announced his resignation

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Speaker 1: and he will be replaced by Molly Jolly the pretty

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Speaker 1: much the chief financial officer of the Angels.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can't say I was shocked by this move, considering

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Speaker 1: John a sixty six and sort of right in that

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Speaker 1: sweet spot of retirement. But for any either of you,

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Speaker 1: two guys alten start with you, did the timing sort

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Speaker 1: of seem a little odd. I mean, right at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the season, I supposed to the end of

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Speaker 1: a season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I was not. Look, Ardi Marino

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Speaker 3: putting the team up for sale and then backing out,

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Speaker 3: I think kind of created sort of a weird environment

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Speaker 3: for everybody where. There were a lot of people at

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Speaker 3: very prominent positions in the organization John Carpedo included, who

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Speaker 3: thought they were on their way out and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden they were back in. And look he is,

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Speaker 3: as you said, he's sixty six years old. I had

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Speaker 3: heard you wanted to spend a little bit more time

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Speaker 3: with his family. These last few years obviously have been

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Speaker 3: really difficult on the organization as a whole, on him specifically,

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Speaker 3: I would imagine. But yeah, I was shocked that this happened. Now.

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Speaker 3: As for what it's going to mean moving forward, I

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Speaker 3: think that's the open question here. Look, Molly Jolly's name

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Speaker 3: got panned on social media, predictably, but I've heard from

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Speaker 3: a lot of people in the organization who speak really

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Speaker 3: highly of her. She's been there since even before Artie

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Speaker 3: Moreno took over the team. She worked for the Walt

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Speaker 3: Disney Company when it was under their ownership for about

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Speaker 3: three years before Artie Moreno stepped in. She's been a

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Speaker 3: really prominent role. She's gonna be the first woman now

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Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball, I believe, who heads up both

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Speaker 3: the business side and the baseball operation side. And I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: she's not going to have a say on how the

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Speaker 3: roster shapes up, or who they draft or anything like that,

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Speaker 3: but Perry Manazien does answer to her. The thing though,

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Speaker 3: is that she does answer to Artie Moreno. So what

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Speaker 3: that changes, What that means? I think that's going to

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Speaker 3: be the interesting thing.

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Speaker 2: Mark is a former player.

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Speaker 1: Does a move like that as you're in the middle

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Speaker 1: of spring training have any impact in the clubhouse?

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Speaker 2: Do players notice that?

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Speaker 1: Do they care about it?

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Speaker 2: Couldn't care less? Yeah, how much should I?

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Speaker 4: At least in my opinion, that's you know, that's a

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Speaker 4: move that effects I think probably the fan base a

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Speaker 4: lot more than the players. But we'll have to see

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Speaker 4: how it plays out. And I appreciate Alden here shedding light.

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Speaker 4: He's not wearing his suit, which I normally see it

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Speaker 4: on the field. But I appreciate you taking the time

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Speaker 4: to explain the situation because for a lot of people,

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Speaker 4: it is it does seem about Mike. To answer your question,

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Speaker 4: timing wise, why now who knows?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that at first, but then I started

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Speaker 1: to think, well, maybe John really felt the need to

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Speaker 1: sort of shepherd this TV deal through. In granted, there's

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Speaker 1: still a lot of work to be done in terms of,

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Speaker 1: you know, lining up advertisers and programming and all that

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Speaker 1: major task office plate. How do we think this change

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Speaker 1: at the top will impact the club, Alden.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if and I know this is

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Speaker 3: probably not what fans want to hear, but like, if

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Speaker 3: there's different promotional stuff that the Angels do, maybe Christmas

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Speaker 3: that Christmas in July ceases to exist. But I think

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Speaker 3: the thing's got stale for a while. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: even just talking about the player side, the roster construction side,

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Speaker 3: we can get into that that obviously did, but just promotionally,

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Speaker 3: the things at the ballpark, the amenities, all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: So like bringing in sort of a fresh set of eye,

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Speaker 3: not a fresh set of eyes, but somebody in more

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Speaker 3: of a leadership position has the power to do stuff

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Speaker 3: like that. I'm interested to see what if anything on

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Speaker 3: the media side, Like the fact that the Angels radio

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Speaker 3: broadcast crew doesn't travel with the team is insane. The

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Speaker 3: fact that they're in a market like Anaheim in southern

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Speaker 3: California and they have such limited amount of Spanish language broadcasts.

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Speaker 3: It is just a space that they're not tapping into,

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Speaker 3: which I never understood. On the John Carpino had a

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Speaker 3: lot to say on the media side. What changes on

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Speaker 3: the media side, What changes on the promotional side? You know,

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Speaker 3: That's the stuff I'm interested in. But the stuff that matters,

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Speaker 3: and Mark could speak to this is what happens on

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Speaker 3: the field, and I don't know that anything's going to

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Speaker 3: change there. I hate to break it to everybody. The

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Speaker 3: budget's not changing. The local media situation is not getting

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Speaker 3: much better. And at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 3: issues that plague the Angels are not having a long

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Speaker 3: term vision, not investing enough in player development, and not

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Speaker 3: getting all the different elements of the organization aligned to

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Speaker 3: build a good cohesive organization. These are the things that

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Speaker 3: have played the Angels for I don't know, ten fifteen

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Speaker 3: years especially. That's the stuff that really needs to change,

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Speaker 3: and that's the stuff that can only change I think

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Speaker 3: from the very top, and that's above Molly Jolly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always hard to tell how much a team

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Speaker 1: president is involved in baseball decisions. I do think John

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Speaker 1: Carpino was a little more involved than many As we

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Speaker 1: remember Alden, it was John Carpino and Arty Moreno who

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Speaker 1: traveled to Texas in the winter before the twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: the GM's back, I wonder, and maybe all in our

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Speaker 3: Well, I could answer this first I never really got

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Speaker 3: the sense that, I know Josh Hamilton is an extreme example.

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Speaker 3: I never got the sense that John Carpino meddled a

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Speaker 3: gets involved in baseball operations is already Moreno, and so

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Speaker 3: I don't think Perry Manazien is gonna have any more

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Speaker 3: not saying that already impacts who they draft or specific

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Speaker 3: you get to certain price points, owners always get involved,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're talking about nine figure contracts and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that, owners will get involved. But when you're talking

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Speaker 3: when they're clearly not winning, you know, that's not a

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Speaker 3: John Carpino thing. That's an already Moreno thing, you know. So, like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much is going to change there.

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Speaker 3: Like I said before, Artie Moreno's still owns this team,

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Speaker 3: said this before about Perry, I don't know where he

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Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory. I guess is all

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Speaker 1: in Gonzales the ESPN. Here's kind of a million dollar question.

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Speaker 1: Do we feel that John Carpino's resignation or retirement at

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Speaker 1: this point is an indication that already is going to

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Speaker 1: soon sell the team.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. I have no idea. I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody I would say, and I'm just guessing.

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Speaker 3: I would say it's the opposite again just to guess,

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Speaker 3: but I would think that when Arti Marino sells the team,

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Speaker 3: I was if you brought You asked at the top

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Speaker 3: that was an element for me that was surprising, which

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Speaker 3: my assumption would be that he would have waited for

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Speaker 3: Artie to sell the team and then he could make

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Speaker 3: a lot of money off that transaction. The fact that

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Speaker 3: he didn't makes me think maybe we don't know when

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Speaker 3: he's going to sell the team.

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Speaker 2: That's just my thought, Mark, I don't know. I do

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Speaker 4: All I can say is that John, on a personal

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Speaker 3: have left, because I don't know if they have any

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Speaker 3: Oakland fans or any Sacramento fans anymore. And I don't

436
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Speaker 3: know if Las Vegas has fans. But that's beside the point.

437
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Speaker 3: People can get excited for the A's because they're building

438
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Speaker 3: towards this thing, right, And I keep I go back

439
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Speaker 3: to the Angels. What's the thing that they're building toward.

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Speaker 3: I can't figure it out yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, they've already locked up some

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Speaker 1: of their young up and coming plays to long term deals.

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Speaker 1: And I think if they can secure Nick Kurtz, who

444
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Speaker 1: I think is one of the best young hitters in

445
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Speaker 1: the game Rookie of the Year unanimous choice, that's going

446
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Speaker 1: to lock up a lot of that young core and

447
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Speaker 1: that's going to make that I agree with all and

448
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Speaker 1: there's going to be an exciting team for the next

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Speaker 1: few years. Okay, we're going to turn our attention now

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Speaker 1: to the news also broke last Friday about the Angels

451
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Speaker 1: in their new TV deal. Sports Business Journal reporting that

452
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Speaker 1: the Angels purchased fifty share of Main Street Sports, and

453
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Speaker 1: they're going to form their own regional sports network that

454
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Speaker 1: will also house the NHL's Kings, but probably not the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: The network is expected to be available on the same

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Speaker 1: cable and satellite outlets as before, which I appreciate because

457
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Speaker 1: I did get FanDuel Sports before and I won't have

458
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Speaker 1: to pay extra for it. The on air talent Wayne Rendazo,

459
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Speaker 1: Mark Goubaza, Erica Weston is apparently going to stay the same.

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Speaker 1: This is good news for Angel fans, I think. But

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Speaker 1: I think the Angels still have a lot of work

462
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Speaker 1: to do in terms of, you know, building up the

463
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Speaker 1: sponsors and the advertising to try to get their revenue

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Speaker 1: at least toward what they were making in that you know,

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Speaker 1: great Fox Sports West deal, which is like what twenty years,

466
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Speaker 1: three billion or something. They were making a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: I think three hundred you know a lot of money

468
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Speaker 1: off that deal. All the what's the task at hand

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Speaker 1: here for the Angels.

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Speaker 3: It's a really difficult one. I like what they did,

471
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Speaker 3: and there were as Main Street Sports was headed towards

472
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Speaker 3: what looks like a liquidation, the vast majority of teams

473
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Speaker 3: went with Major League baseball right away. Major League Baseball

474
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Speaker 3: now has the rights to about half the industry. The

475
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Speaker 3: two main holdouts there were the Braves and the Angels,

476
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Speaker 3: and the reason why they were holdouts is because they

477
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Speaker 3: were two of the most valuable entities that Main Street

478
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Speaker 3: Sports has. The Braves have this massive territory which TBS

479
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Speaker 3: is very responsible for from the nineteen nineties, and so

480
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Speaker 3: you saw the Braves form their own network to try

481
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Speaker 3: to capitalize on that. The Angels obviously took out an

482
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Speaker 3: ownership stake in Main Street Sports and they're trying to

483
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Speaker 3: capitalize on that. Look, the Angels are not going to

484
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Speaker 3: recoup the money that Fox Sports was paying them before.

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Speaker 3: I think that was in twenty eleven twenty twelve, right

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Speaker 3: around when they signed Albert Pools and CJ. Wilson. That

487
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Speaker 3: all season these next three years for teams is all

488
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Speaker 3: about just sort of trying to hold on to as

489
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Speaker 3: much of that old cable local media money that they

490
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Speaker 3: used to have. Get as much out of that as possible,

491
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Speaker 3: because then at the end of twenty twenty eight, everything

492
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Speaker 3: is going to change. Major League Baseball wants to centralize

493
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Speaker 3: local media. I think the vast majority of the industry

494
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Speaker 3: is going to go with them. We'll see how this

495
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Speaker 3: goes with the Angels. Depending on how this goes, it

496
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Speaker 3: will depend on whether they go with Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 3: But I will say it's a different thing. The Rangers

498
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Speaker 3: tried to start their own TV network. It hasn't gone

499
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Speaker 3: anywhere near as well for them as they thought. Striking

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Speaker 3: these carriage deals these days it's very difficult, and you've

501
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Speaker 3: seen it with the payroll, like their revenues are impacted greatness,

502
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Speaker 3: and the fact that they're a team that pays into

503
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: revenue sharing also means that all those CBT overages, all

504
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Speaker 3: those luxury text payments, they don't get those either. So

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Speaker 3: they're sort of in the wrong end of both here.

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Speaker 3: They don't get revenue sharing and they don't have a

507
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Speaker 3: local media deal. So they're in a tough spot and

508
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Speaker 3: they're trying to recoup as much as possible over these

509
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Speaker 3: next few years. It's going to be hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still not going to get spring training games

511
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Speaker 1: on TV, but at least we'll get the regular season games.

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Speaker 2: Mark, if you figure out if you.

513
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Speaker 1: Even have fan duel sports on your on your cable

514
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Speaker 1: package or what, do you got.

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Speaker 2: Fairly confident I do.

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Speaker 4: I still always view it as Fox Sports West and

517
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Speaker 4: probably always well. These name changes are tad confusing, but

518
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Speaker 4: it appears it will be uninterrupted and I will get

519
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Speaker 4: to watch the games when they are available, So good

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Speaker 4: news there, I think for the.

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Speaker 2: Fans, Yeah, how do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean they're also going to try to sell streaming

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Speaker 1: package is maybe for ninety nine bucks a year. I'm

524
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Speaker 1: not sure exactly how much. What do you think of

525
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Speaker 1: the appetite is going to be for fans who don't

526
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Speaker 1: get this network on their cable package and have to

527
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Speaker 1: pay extra for it.

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Speaker 4: I think that Aldon can probably weigh in as well.

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Speaker 4: What number does it start to feel uncomfortable? Especially if

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Speaker 4: the on field play is it spectacular? Is it one

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars? Is it two hundred? If it gets much

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Speaker 4: over that, I think a lot are going to be out,

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Speaker 4: especially if another team across town is available on Sportsnet cable.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can't pay per month, so maybe

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Speaker 1: if they're not too far out in April or May,

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Speaker 1: they'll get half season customers. Okay, we're going to turn

538
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Speaker 1: our attention to the World Baseball Classic. All of our

539
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic coverage is brought to you by our

540
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Speaker 1: friends at Fox one, which is a lot stream all

541
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Speaker 1: your Fox favorites together in one place, including all WBC

542
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Speaker 1: games over the next few weeks, and after that the

543
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: best MLB action all season long. Now, some interesting news

544
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Speaker 1: out of the WBC with some Angel prospects, notably Lucas Ramirez,

545
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Speaker 1: the son of former slugger Manny Ramires, hit two home

546
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Speaker 1: runs for Brazil against the Team USA and the opener

547
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Speaker 1: and a pitcher who I'm gonna admit I had never

548
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Speaker 1: heard about a prospect in the Angels organization. Niger Victor

549
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: struck out four batters against Team USA. Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 1: Gunner Henderson and Roman Anthony. His kid's a twenty four

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Speaker 1: year old right hand or fourteenth round pick out of

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Speaker 1: Central Florida in twenty twenty four, ninety seven mile an

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Speaker 1: hour fastball and got I think he got swinging strikes

554
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Speaker 1: on seven of his eleven sliders. Mark Aldman, anything about you,

555
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Speaker 1: these guys jumping out at you in the early rounds

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Speaker 1: of the WBC.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's this is what I like about

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Speaker 3: the early portion of the WBC, where like you get

559
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Speaker 3: these names that you're not really familiar with these young kids.

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00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you saw Hoste Contras's seventeen year old son

561
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Speaker 3: get Aaron judged to ground into a double play, and look,

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Speaker 3: these are even probably Angels fans weren't super familiar with

563
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Speaker 3: these two guys. But and Mark Trumple could speak to

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Speaker 3: this as somebody who like played a winter ball and

565
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Speaker 3: stuff like that, like you want to get better as

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Speaker 3: a prospect, like playing these high pressure environments against premium competition,

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Speaker 3: and like I'd be really curious to study like the

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Speaker 3: past of these two players to see like how just

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Speaker 3: sort of being in these games, being in those environments

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Speaker 3: might have made them better. And it's cool, like, Angels

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Speaker 3: fans now have two other guys that if they weren't

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Speaker 3: on their radar already, now they got two guys that

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Speaker 3: they could follow in their career. I think that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think either was in their top thirty

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Speaker 1: on all these prospect lists. Mark, what kind of a

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Speaker 1: couple of performances like that do for kids in these

577
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Speaker 1: sort of at this level of their career.

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Speaker 2: They can go viral and you can see the clips everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Lucas Ramirez is a young guy twenty years old, just

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Speaker 4: drafted in twenty twenty four. He had a nice season

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Speaker 4: with the bat. I think he made it up to

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Speaker 4: Hya briefly. Too early to tell exactly what he is

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Speaker 4: or isn't, but it's a strong showing. Looks like he

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Speaker 4: has some pop on the bat. We've talked about the

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Speaker 4: Angels minor league system having a distinct lack of power hitters,

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Speaker 4: so if he blossoms into one, that's great. As far

587
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Speaker 4: as Victor very fired up, I think he clearly, you know,

588
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Speaker 4: was in the moment and you know, let the kids play,

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Speaker 4: so he looked like a stare down to the team

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Speaker 4: USI dugout. Then he kind of reined it in, but

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Speaker 4: it was, you know, it was celebrating. It's what everyone

592
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Speaker 4: does now, not what we were taught. But whatever, big stuff,

593
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Speaker 4: nice slider. The minor league numbers not as flattering. I

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Speaker 4: believe he's career five plus e RA and apparently gets

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Speaker 4: hit fairly hard when he's in the strike. Song may

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Speaker 4: have gone. I think he did play in the Fall League,

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Speaker 4: so I want to watch. You know, some of these

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: guys kind of it clicks when it clicks, but if

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Speaker 4: you have the physical tools, which every big leaguer generally

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Speaker 4: does have well above average tools. You don't find anyone

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Speaker 4: that's just, you know, got ordinary tools that somehow has

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Speaker 4: this mental capacity to take it to the next level.

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Speaker 4: Most guys are extremely talented with the skill set, and

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Speaker 4: both these guys seem to have that. So maybe a

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Speaker 4: nice platform for them to do some big things. Have

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Speaker 4: good seasons and you know those prospect lists. How much

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Speaker 4: do that matter? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper had an interesting quote I think right as

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Speaker 1: a WBC open He said, obviously the WBC is great,

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Speaker 1: but it's not the Olympics. That's no disrespect to the

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Speaker 1: WBC or anything, but everybody knows when the Olympics are on,

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Speaker 1: everybody is watching. Doesn't matter what sport it is. It

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Speaker 1: could be the most random sport. And as all the

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Speaker 1: fans watching, I hope LA twenty eight it happens. Now,

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Speaker 1: this whole Olympics thing is gonna be really interesting. I

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Speaker 1: find I think major leaguers are gonna They're gonna find

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Speaker 1: a way to do it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: How they condense the whole Olympic tournament into maybe one week,

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Speaker 1: and whether it's July or August is going to be

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Speaker 1: a challenge. And I see what Bryce is saying, But personally,

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Speaker 1: I think what the Olympics will lack that the WBC

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Speaker 1: has in spades are some of these moments. Show hal

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Speaker 1: Otani hitting a grand slam in the Tokyo Doom in

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Speaker 1: his home country, the guy from Puerto Rico who hit

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Speaker 1: the walk off through on Homer the other night in

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Speaker 1: San Juan. I mean, you see these celebrations. I do

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Speaker 1: think the Olympics will bring out the energy that especially

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Speaker 1: some of these teams from Latin America bring, but man

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Speaker 1: to see show Hey and Yamamoto pitching in Japan and

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Speaker 1: to see maybe a team from the Dominican Mexico doing

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Speaker 1: in their home countries, I don't know. I think the

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Speaker 1: WBC does a great job of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I understand what he's saying, like this

636
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Speaker 3: is the sixth iteration.

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Speaker 2: Of the WBC.

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Speaker 3: The Olympics has been going on for what one hundred,

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Speaker 3: five hundred, one thousand years. I don't know. This is

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Speaker 3: just a deeper history there. It's not a thousand marks. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: there's a deeper history. There's a deeper meeting there. I

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Speaker 3: get it. I will say though, I think major league

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Speaker 3: players are going to find a way to play in

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Speaker 3: the Olympics in twenty twenty eight, and it's going to

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Speaker 3: be pretty simple. I think all you gotta do is,

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Speaker 3: you know, elongate the All Star break by four or

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Speaker 3: five days, a handful of days. I know that's going

648
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Speaker 3: to be a challenge for a lot of a lot

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Speaker 3: of guys sort of sitting around to start the second half.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's going to happen. I think there's

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Speaker 3: enough momentum around it. And one thing that I have

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Speaker 3: thought about, and I actually kicked it a lot around

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Speaker 3: to some league officials recently, is you know you talk

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Speaker 3: about how difficult it is for pitchers to take part

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Speaker 3: in the WBC because the middle of March they're not

656
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Speaker 3: fully stretched out. They got to be on schedule in

657
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Speaker 3: order to get their innings in and be ready for

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Speaker 3: opening Day to start a regular season. If it works

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Speaker 3: out well in twenty twenty eight with the Olympics and

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Speaker 3: they could sort of stretch out the Allstar Break to

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Speaker 3: make it happen, can that be a template for doing

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Speaker 3: that in the World Baseball Classic every few years, every

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Speaker 3: three four years, whatever, every three years when the WBC

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Speaker 3: rolls around, can you make the All Star Break a

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Speaker 3: little bit longer, and if you make it in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the season, I think you'd get more buying

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Speaker 3: from pitchers. I think more importantly, you'd get more buying

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Speaker 3: from their teams because they're already stretched out, right, Like

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Speaker 3: imagine Terrek Scoople taking down six innings right instead of

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Speaker 3: three in the WBC. They're already ramped up. I think

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Speaker 3: it would be easier. Now, Look, there would be challenges.

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Speaker 3: The WBC is longer, you would have to have a

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Speaker 3: much longer All Star break. But I do wonder if

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight can sort of set a sort of

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Speaker 3: template where like, hey, maybe we can be a little

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Speaker 3: flexible with this All Star break. Let these international events

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Speaker 3: take place in the middle of the season as opposed

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Speaker 3: to in March.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think they should just postpone the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game in the years of the Olympics if they

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Speaker 1: want to. And I agree, the competition for baseball in

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Speaker 1: the middle of July or early August or whatever it

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Speaker 1: is is going to be so more reflective of the

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Speaker 1: team's talent on the field in the countries that are competing.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think you could have as you know,

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Speaker 1: forty eight sixty four teams in the Olympics. Maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a way to whittle down some of these in qualifying

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Speaker 1: events for some of these European countries if they want

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Speaker 1: to compete, maybe some of these smaller countries and you

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Speaker 1: have to sort of do some kind of competition on

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Speaker 1: the way to get into the Olympics. But I just

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Speaker 1: think that kind of event with big leaguers in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the season would be spectacular. What do you think, Mark, I'm.

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Speaker 2: All for it.

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Speaker 4: I think that it seems like some very prominent players

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Speaker 4: want this to happen. I think one of the the

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Speaker 4: main difference is whenning a gold medal is really cool

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Speaker 4: and I think a lot of guys would love to

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Speaker 4: have that on their trophy case, the logistics of how

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Speaker 4: you do it are more difficult, and as always, how

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Speaker 4: do the teams benefit? And sometimes it pretty much means

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Speaker 4: they do not. I think what would be nice if

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Speaker 4: you were to postpone the All Star gamers. You said,

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Speaker 4: maybe you nominate guys that are deserving of being on

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Speaker 4: the All Star team, so you can say that you

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Speaker 4: were an All Star because the game, you know, how

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Speaker 4: important is it? It's fun? The homer in Derby is

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Speaker 4: stale in my opinion, but people still probably tune in.

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Speaker 4: And if these guys that are nominated to make the

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Speaker 4: All Star team, maybe you condense that roster somewhat and

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Speaker 4: that's the Olympic team, or maybe you know, you see

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Speaker 4: what the buying is. But enough big names want to

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Speaker 4: do it. I think that's going to move the needle,

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Speaker 4: and I think it'd be really they neat to see

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Speaker 4: and if there's a will, there's a way, so I

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Speaker 4: you know, smart baseball minds will figure out how to

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 1: From the WBC through the World Series to the World Cup,

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Speaker 1: with a little personal questions for Alden Gonzales. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans see Alden on TV with ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully some fans read his writing on the website. What

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Speaker 1: is sort of the breakdown all into your job? You know,

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Speaker 1: percentage wise TV writing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of varies. I think at the on

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Speaker 3: the time of year, it's more fifty to fifty in

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Speaker 3: I would say Spring Training, All Star Game, doing the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: and then it's very heavy on the reporting writing side,

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Speaker 3: maybe basically every other month. But it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've always I've always liked doing the TV thing.

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Speaker 3: I came up as an annoying Angel Beat reporter covering

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Speaker 3: Mark Trumbo and the TV thing sort of evolved later,

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Speaker 3: but I've always liked it. I do some Sports Center stuff,

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Speaker 3: and they let me do games every once in a while.

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Speaker 3: I was just in Arizona last week and we did

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Speaker 3: Tim you say, against the Giants, and we did Dodgers Reds.

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Speaker 3: My favorite thing is doing the games. I love just

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Speaker 3: being involved in that environment. I love it because you

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Speaker 3: sort of bring every aspect of your job and you're

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Speaker 3: just telling stories in a different format. I love trying

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Speaker 3: the challenge of just sort of trying to bring something

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Speaker 3: additional to the broadcast that will help viewers sort of

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Speaker 3: enhance their experience and sort of learn about some of

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Speaker 3: the things that they're watching. But it's really cool. ESPN

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Speaker 3: is one of these great companies where like I get

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Speaker 3: to do a little bit of everything. I still get

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Speaker 3: to do the writing and reporting. I get to do

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Speaker 3: the TV stuff, and every once in a while we'll

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Speaker 3: get to do the games. I know Mark Trumble thinks

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Speaker 3: the home Run Derby is stale. I used to do

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Speaker 3: the home Run Derby, so I wonder if that has

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Speaker 3: played a part in his opinion, sort of swaying in

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Speaker 3: that direction, And if so, I apologize for that more

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Speaker 3: for making the home Run Derby stale for you.

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Speaker 4: No, you do a great job translating. Minus when I

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Speaker 4: ask you to translate a YouTube clip of me in

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Speaker 4: winter Ball and very gentleman was speaking very yeah, Well

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Speaker 4: you said, he's saying like you have big power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's what he said.

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Speaker 4: Well no, he said a lot more than that, and

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Speaker 4: you did not go the extra mile to translate.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want to hurt your feelings.

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Speaker 4: I know it was all flattering. I had Google do

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Speaker 4: it for me, so thank you for that. But you

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Speaker 4: are out there, your high energy. You can do it all,

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Speaker 4: including a hit off show. Hey o Tani, that's the

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Speaker 4: traject machine. A lot of whiffs, but you didn't hit

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Speaker 4: a singlestic.

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Speaker 2: You have.

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Speaker 4: I describe you as a front foot hitter, prone to

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Speaker 4: lunching and weak against the breaking ball.

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Speaker 2: Very weak.

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Speaker 3: Keep the way back, kid, Hey, Mike Trout struck out

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Speaker 3: on that same sweeper in the WBC. Man, what do

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Speaker 3: you expect?

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Speaker 2: It's nasty.

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Speaker 3: You got to.

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Speaker 2: Choke up.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to step into against show hey, against

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Speaker 1: the real show hey, or the video show hey. So

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Speaker 1: all kudos for that, Alton, Oh well that we're going

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Speaker 1: to close the show today. I really appreciate our guests.

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Speaker 1: All In Gonzalez of ESPN, thank you for joining us.

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