WEBVTT - Kody and Co. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.280 Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Phillies Show from Ruben Tomorrow 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.439 Junior Jim Salisbury. I'm todd z Lucky. It is Monday, 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:25.280 May twentieth, twenty twenty four. The Phillies swept the Nationals 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.880 over the weekend. They're off to the greatest start in 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.320 Phillies history through forty eight games. Hi with the ninety 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.320 three Phillies. I think the seventy six Phillies. They keep 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.880 winning and winning and winning. They keep winning so much 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.640 that last night, Reuben, I saw you had a little, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:45.080 uh sweep martini. You're calling it? 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.120 What is this sweep martini? Man? We went back into 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:53.920 our back into our little deck that we just finished 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.880 off here and oh, that's your place, that's my place, baby. Wow, 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.040 that's nice. That's right. So I had to go to 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:06.480 a little sweep teeny. Uh, yeah, we were. We were 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.679 thinking about going out and having a cocktail. Was well, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:11.920 let's just go hang out at our deck, all right. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:16.520 We had a little sweep teeny and uh celebrated a 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.360 phenomenal series. By the by the fightings. It was just 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:21.640 really spectacular. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.120 Are you a dirty martini guy? 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:24.520 How what do you? 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:24.960 How do you do it? 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:31.560 Filth not dirty, filthy. I like the filth now it 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.520 was I actually, you know, we shook it out myself. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.400 We've got a nice little uh we have a nice 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.600 little speakeasy right off right as you enter our home. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.399 And then we we have we built a couple of 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.360 decks out there outside. You don't get that too often 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.400 here in Old City. But uh, we're very fortunate. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.560 You mean you're not a martini guy. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:54.720 I don't think no. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.400 I've never had one in my life. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.000 Are you a beer like a beer guy? You're just 0:01:59.040 --> 0:01:59.560 straight beer. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.360 I like to have a beer or a glass of 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.960 red wine if I'm eating some pasta or pizza. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.400 But that's about you, Todd. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.480 I enjoy an old fashioned I will make old fashions. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.239 In fact, I make so many old fashions. I have 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.680 the ingredients out of my kitchen counter upstairs. I make 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.000 a big batch, throw the bottle in the freezer, so 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.000 anytime I want it, I can just shake it up, 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.720 pour it out of her thing ice and rock and 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:25.440 roll from there. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.760 I love it. I'm actually a big fan of you. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.080 I'm a big fan of bourbon. I've actually been turned 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.440 over the last two or three years. I got turned 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.400 on a bourbon, and it's just the brown water's gotten me. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.000 It's gotten me gotten. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.880 What do you what's your what's your favorite bourbon? 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:47.120 Todd Well, right now, just to mix these old fashions, 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.120 I do a little Elijah Craig, I'll just do some 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.440 Makers Mark as well, usually makers Mark, usual Makers Mark 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.040 for an old fashioned keep it somewhat somewhat simple, very 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.519 very nice at the end of the night, come more nice, Yeah, 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:07.600 very nice. Speaking of very nice, Cody Clemens, it's just 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:11.040 crazy how how big he's been coming up the last 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.800 couple of days. The game tying home run two outs 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.120 in the ninth thing on Saturday, my colleague Paul Cassella 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.119 said the Phillies have only hit three of those home 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.919 runs two outs ninth inning, game tying home run. Bryce 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.399 Harper hit one last year, Trey Turner who went last year, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.840 and Cody Clemens hit one on Saturday night. Then he 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.240 hits the go ahead double in the fifth inning on Sunday. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.960 Cody's batting three to twenty one, three doubles, one home run, 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.920 our one triple, three home runs, ten RBIs a one 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.800 point one six six ops in his first eleven games 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:52.320 this season. That is insane. I look this up. There's 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.080 only been forty one players ever that's had a run 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.160 like that to start, you know, their first eleven games 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.280 to start a season. You were one of those players. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:02.320 Are you serious? 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:03.120 Yes? 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:05.880 I know I had a good week like you had. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.400 You came up and now this is not doesn't mean 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.400 from the beginning of the season, first eleven games of 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.240 the season with the team in ninety three, Rubin, Yes, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.480 you came up and you had Cody Clemens week. It's 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.000 a fun list because you look at it. You have 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.800 Chase Utley's on there, Bryce Harper's on there, Mike Schmid's 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.720 on there, Pat Burrell, Dick Allen, Chuck Klein, and you 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.800 got Ruben Tomorrow and Cody Clements. What do you guys 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.240 think of Cody clements play. It's been ridiculous. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.680 Rubin Tomorrow and Cody Clements both second generation Big leaguers. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.640 That's right, you know. I what I like? I love 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.000 his swing. He's so short to the ball, Rubin, do 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.080 you agree. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.960 Yeah, I mean he's got a really good swing to 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.279 be able to manage off the bench. It's one of 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.479 the tough things, you know, It's one of the tough 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.600 things to do is to is to manage the your 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.200 barrel and get your barrel to the baseball. When you're 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.480 coming off the bench, especially in this day and age, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.240 when the velocities are taller, obviously you got to be 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.280 ready for the fastball. But I mean, he's done a 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.200 nice job on all the pitches. He's hit a couple 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.360 of cutters, he's hit a couple of change ups, he said, 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.000 a couple of you know, more seamers, a couple of 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:26.880 sinkers piece. I mean, here, here's where I'm at on him. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.120 For him to have gone down, I know, the feeling 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.320 like you get sent down. You don't feel like you 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.120 necessarily should have gotten sent down because he had a 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.400 great spring. The numbers don't work for you. You can't 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.640 put twenty seven men on the on the field on 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:47.520 a roster. You have to have twenty six. And you know, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.880 he doesn't sulk. He goes down and he plays. And 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.880 you know the fact that he played so well in 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.680 spring training that means a lot a lot, and the 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.800 way you handle yourself in spring training means a lot 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.880 when it comes to like making a decision to bring 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.680 it guy back to the big leagues. So he was 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.080 not super hot when he was playing down there in 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.520 Lehigh Valley, but he played well enough and sustained it 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.640 well enough that hey, we need a left handed bat, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.839 let's bring him. And he's done extremely well. Man, I 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.760 got to give him some love, and he's handled extraordinarily well. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.560 Not only that, but I think he's played great defense. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.680 I'm really surprised by it. But you know, he played 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.480 at second base and he's been very solid during a 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.800 couple of double plays, he's made some range plays. He 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:37.320 doesn't look nervous or disappointed or like disappointment wasn't the 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.800 like just join it. He just feels like pretty natural there. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.440 And I'm really impressed by that too. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.480 Jim, Well, I've been thinking a little bit about him 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.320 this weekend. You know, obviously, you know, you grow up 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:50.720 wanting to play in the big leagues. You get to 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.360 the big leagues, you want to be an everyday guy. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.840 Everybody aspires to be an everyday guy, but not everybody is. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.640 And there still could be a place for the guy 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.479 that plays off the bench. And he looked so good 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.200 in that role. But you mentioned his swing holding up 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.960 to be a potential bench guy. I think you know, 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.800 he could have a future as that type of a player. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.160 I mean, just what we're seeing here in the short term. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:14.920 And the defense is an important part of it, but 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.120 the fact that he gives you such a good at 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.000 bat when he doesn't get those consistent at bats, and 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.560 I just think it starts with boom. He's right to 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.640 the ball, He's really short to the ball, and you 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.880 could have a nice career, you know. I know, pinch 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.000 hitting is probably not as important as it once was 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.200 now that we have d H in both leagues, but 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.000 you know, these guys are still very important when you're 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.720 you're thinking about team construction, and when you're constructing a 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.840 good championship caliber team, sometimes your edge players are hugely 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.920 important to where you want to go, like a Greg 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:55.360 Dobbs to those great Phillies teams. You know, he had 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:59.720 great couple of great years and was a big instrumental 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.520 part that team. And you know, so far, you know, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.040 it's only what you know, forty five games or so, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:09.640 but forty eight games. But you know, Cody Clemens is 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.800 he's helped them win ball games, and that's what it's about. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.360 They're getting contributions really from every corner of their roster, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.840 and good job by him and obviously big dramatic home 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.160 run a few of them. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.840 Is there any way for him? We're really jumping ahead 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.840 of ourselves here because you don't know what's going to happen. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.160 You don't know how long a trade turner is going 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.880 to take to come back. Could be sounds like he's 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.640 getting somewhat close. He's running and he's fielding. He's going 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.160 to hit take VP on the field this week. Supposedly, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.760 you don't know what's going to happen between now and then. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.400 But say Cody clements keeps playing well and hitting like this, 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.920 is there is there any way he stays on this team. 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.520 I have trouble seeing a way that he stays on 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.959 his team. Maybe he gets optional. You just bring it 0:08:59.040 --> 0:08:59.439 back up. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.240 There's a way to stay on the team. Go to 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:07.160 fourteen position players in twelve pitchers. There's no rule against that. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:07.800 That's true. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.640 I mean, listen, we played seasons with nine pitchers. I mean, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.360 with the way this team and the length that they 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:22.040 have in their rotation, it is not beyond the possibility. 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.880 Now he does have options, and so you know that 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.360 that's the beauty of what Cody Cleintman springs to the 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.760 table as well as as a front person in the 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.319 front office. You know, you're you're loving the fact that 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.080 this guy you can kind of do what you what 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.080 you want with him. I think there's a maximum of 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.640 how many times you do it during the course of 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.480 the season. Was it four or five times? And then 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:51.760 you can't option back down? But that said, it got 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.280 a lot of flexibility with him. But they can go 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.040 to twelve. They can go to twelve pitchers because they're 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:00.880 they're their starters are going. You know, they're averaging like 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:07.040 over six innings pitched per per start and so at 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.120 least I don't know the exact numbers. I wish I 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.840 had them in front of me, but I think it's 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.240 like a six and a third or it's more than anybody. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.880 I can't imagine that there's another team that has more 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.120 average innings per start than the Phillies. I mean, if 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.560 it's one team that can do it, it might be 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.079 the Phillies. You can go to twelve instead of having 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.680 thirteen pitchers. Just a thought. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.960 Well, as we like to say, and we've seen something, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.960 something will present itself, and that's right. I mean, this 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.280 thirty four and fourteen start matches ninety three and seventy 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.600 six for the best start over forty eight games. And 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.520 obviously they're just I mean they're cruising at thirty five 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.400 thousand feet, but you know, still a long way from 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.200 the landing strip. One of the things that I think 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.600 becomes very important when you get off to a start 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.520 like this is the skipper, and is the leader ship, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.559 and is the messaging. And I just love the messaging 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:12.360 that Rob Thompson is imparting, and it's basically stay humble 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.760 and stay humble because they've accomplished nothing. This is fun, 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.960 this is tremendous, but we all know where the big 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.360 shiny trophy is and it's in October and you need 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.880 to you need to stack the pennies along the way, 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.880 and they're doing a great job at that. And I 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.160 also think they have the personalities in the clubhouse that 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.880 they're not going to come off the gas. I mean, 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.679 Harper's not going to let you come off the gas. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.240 He wants it so bad. Wheeler wants it so bad. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.640 He's not going to let you take your foot off 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:44.160 the gas. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:45.640 Schureber Schreber. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.400 For Sureber's nuts about it. I mean he was pissed 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.160 when they lost one game two weeks ago. But I 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.400 really like the messaging of Rob that Rob Thompson is imparting, 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.040 what do you think of it? Tom? To me? To me, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:03.600 it becomes a good challenge keeping everybody Boom focused because 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.200 things are going so well, keeping everybody realizing that Boom, 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.520 we haven't This is fun, but we haven't accomplished what 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:10.439 we're really here for. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:10.960 Yeah. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.160 Rob's talked about that quite a bit over the past 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.240 couple of weeks, because you know, the script has flipped 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.280 so much of slow start, slow start, how you're going 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:19.679 to dig yourselves out of it to now how you're 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.360 going to keep your foot on the gas. And I 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.680 think another thing that is a helpful reminder for the 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.880 Phillies as they keep playing well and just to keep 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.760 them hungry, I guess you could say, is the fact 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.920 that the team they dispatched of in the last two 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.360 postseasons was the Braves, and nothing is given to you. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.040 You know, you win one hundred five games in the 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.800 regular season, it does not mean you're going to go 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.200 to win the World Series, So keep that edge. So 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.880 I think that's another reminder. But Rob is ideally suited 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:55.080 to handling his clubhouse and that's that's a big reason 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.000 why the players like him so much. He's got that 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.480 good way of communicating and talking to these guys when 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.120 things are going well, when things are going poorly, keeps 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.200 them on an even keel. And I think he's going 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.280 to be able to keep this team motivated throughout the 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.040 summer to really wrap things up. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.880 And so this is the cool thing about this ball 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:20.000 club that I really admire. You said, you know, teams 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.760 take on the personality of the manager. So if you'll 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.360 notice the Phillies are the best team in baseball, you 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:32.040 don't see these guys doing all this gimmicky bs ho 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.960 When guys hit home runs and putting the hats on 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.440 and putting cloaks on and putting all that shit on 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.400 their bodies and doing all those they expect to do 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.680 these things. When you're a champion, you expect to do 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.080 these things. And Rob, that's not Rob's personality. I don't 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.439 know what decisions. Who made the decision that you know 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.040 you needed, You don't need a home run hat and 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.600 all that crap that you do in the They literally 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.400 just enjoy winning and they expect to win, and so 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.679 they're going about their business and they're really you know, 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.640 after the daycare guys. Afterwards they pour some stuff on 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.760 guys in the interviews. That's about the extent of like 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.600 the you know, the swag that you see these guys, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.800 and they have swag. Believe me, they enjoy it and 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.240 they're having fun, but they know that at the end 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.760 of the day, it's about winning baseball games and not 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.080 all the other bullshit that goes on. And I love that. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.800 I honestly love it. You know, it's nice to celebrate wins, 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.680 and they should, and that's important, but but for me, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:37.520 it's and and you should be enjoying your successes. I 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.240 don't want to sound like an old hat, you know, 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:40.840 I don't want to sound like the old guy that 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.680 you shouldn't. But like they genuinely their emotions on the 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.760 field are genuine and they're not planned and it's not 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.000 like a show. They're there to win baseball games and 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.960 they do it in a really business like planet. But 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.000 they also are having a lot of fun with each other. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.640 Do you like the little shimmy they do when they 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:09.760 get I missed the I missed the cradle cradles the 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:10.920 cradle is very clever. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.480 They're very there's a lot of clever stuff. I mean, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:18.840 Marsh's got a lot of personality, but he's super respectful. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.760 You know. Garrett Stubbs is sort of the class not 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.880 the class clown, but you know, he's a guy has 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.280 has has fun there, keeps keeps it, keeps it light. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.440 But you know, the young guys are actually when you 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.840 start thinking about some of the guys who were younger, younger, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:41.040 not not young anymore, Scott Boom, Marsh in particular, those 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.240 three guys, they're actually they're not showmen. They go out 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.800 there and do their business and they play baseball and 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:52.960 they play it well, really well, and they don't you know, 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.200 don't go they don't do all the bullshit. You know, 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.680 they have fun, but they don't. It's not it's not 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.360 about the chrome. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.440 Todd was a big fan of the home run hat 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.080 when they had it that year, the sobrero. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.120 That is not true. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.360 The time I pissed off Bryce by asking him about it. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:11.800 So they did the home run You. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.320 Remember that town, Yes I do. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:19.360 They were down eleven to one and Harper hit a 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.560 home run and somebody put the sombrero on his head. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.640 So now they're down eleven to two. And I just 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:29.240 thought like, wow, odd time for a celebration again. Smoked 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.400 eleven to two and I asked him about it, and 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.720 he wasn't I forgot what his answer was. It was 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.040 a legitimate answer that you need to celebrate the moments, 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.520 but he was clearly irked. I asked him about it. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.640 But funny thing is it disappeared the next year. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:52.160 And should have I mean, I listen, I'm about celebrating stuff. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.600 That's cool. I like it, but I like it to 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:59.280 have it be more natural. Yeah somebody, Yeah, somebody hits 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.600 a home run when it really means something, and you 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.680 pump your fists and stuff like that. Or you make 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.520 a big pitch and you strike a guy out and 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.720 you get out of the inning and the guy's fired up. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.920 Jose Aldo, there's nothing wrong with that. That's like emotion, Dude. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.959 That's not a planned thing where you have to do 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.720 a show and I did. That's what I really dig 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.720 about this team, man, And that's sort of it's sort 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.960 of like Rob Thompson's personality. I think that's really cool. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:26.800 I mean, can you imagine what's going to happen this 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.960 week if they break out of Cheesesteak hat you guys, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.240 are heads are gonna explode. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:37.520 Not do it sparingly on big wins, big home runs. 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.960 Just save it for when you're like a big cheese 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.520 steak hat. Save it for when you're really hungry, not like, 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:47.879 you know, when he's been snacking all day. 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:52.000 Ruben, you mentioned you mentioned Stott and Boem. I was 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.480 looking at Stotts numbers. I mean, he's on it. He's 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.720 on another ridiculous terrors. Last eighteen games, He's banging three 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.520 eighty two, four doubles, one triple, four home runs, one 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.639 point two four to two ops. And then I started thinking, Uh, 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.000 I started thinking, Man, I wonder if he could make 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.000 the All Star team this year after that terrible start 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.120 he had. He had a five point fifty nine OPS 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.080 through his first twenty five games. And Scott, I mean, 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.560 I'm just gonna use war fangrafts war just as kind 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.679 of like a baseline reference. Right now, he's third in 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.040 the National League in war amongst third basemen. Kettle Marte's 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.400 first Bryce terrank from the Brewers is second. So then 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.399 I said, I wonder where everybody else ranks in the 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:35.040 Phillies infield. Bryce Harper's first l in War amongst first basemen. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:40.439 Alec Bowm is first among NL third basemen, and uh 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:45.080 Trey Turner is tied for third despite not playing for 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:50.399 the past few weeks among NL shortstops. And I looked 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.240 this up. The Phillies have not had three. They have 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.879 not had two All Star infielders since two thousand and 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.880 nine Utley and Ryan Howard. They have not had three 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.720 All Star infielders since Pete Rose, Mike Schmidt Manny Trio 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.399 in nineteen eighty two. Right now, we're seeing one of 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:11.280 the best early season performances by any Phillies infield in 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:12.080 recent memory. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.560 Yeah, I mean I at the beginning of the year, 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.399 NBC Sports Philadelphia asked us to do the pre and 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.240 post in the beginning of the season first game. They 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.560 asked us to make some predictions. I predicted this guy 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:29.280 to win a batting title Stott Stott. I think he 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.359 had an opportunity with the way he was sort of, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.080 you know, don't no disrespect that Luisa Rise, because Thelisa 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.960 Rise gets nothing but hits. You know, he's he's like 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:43.919 the was the Bo Baschett of the National League with 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:51.080 accumulating hits. But I mean this guy's he's getting better 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.080 and better, and he's not you know, in the early 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.119 part of the season, he was sort of collapsing on 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.159 his backside. He wasn't standing tall, he wasn't used his 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.760 hands as well down to the ball. One of the 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.560 issues was last year that he changed was to make 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.399 sure his top hand was getting involved. He's getting his 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.440 top hand involved. His hands are working beautifully. He's got 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.040 really good choices when he's when he's at the plate, 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.880 he swings at strikes generally, and he's a really good 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.280 two strike hit. Excuse me, it's a really good two 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.840 strike hitter. And so all those elements can help you 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.679 put yourself in a position to be a batting title winner, 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.680 just because he gives himself a chance to barrel the 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.000 ball pretty consistently. I love the way he's bounced back. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.399 You know, there were some whispers in there for a 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:42.520 little while and that first month and he was kind 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.680 of cruising along that you know, you know, is he 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.159 is he developing? Is something that happened to him, do we? 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.320 I mean I heard some whispers about you know, you know, 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.080 he does have options to you know, there's other guys 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.120 like Cody Clemens and others. I don't think there's any 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:04.119 real discussion about it. But but he had a really 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.879 really terrible start. I mean, people forget and then he 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:12.119 became Rice and Stot again and made the adjustments and 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.680 now he's he's just spectacular. And yes, I do think 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:20.800 that he is All Star caliber worthy because of his offense, 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.120 but also because of his defense, because a man can 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.400 play second base, and I know he's playing a lot 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.560 more shortstop or a little bit more shortstop, but man, 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:32.879 this guy can do it. You can do it, you 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:34.040 can hit, can play. 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:37.880 And Alec Bohm too. I mean, you've got two guys 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:41.840 that are like knock knock knock on their prime, you know, 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.280 like the door is opening to their prime years and 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:50.760 they've both built really really strong foundations and you know 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.240