1 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Phillies Show from Ruben Tomorrow 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Junior Jim Salisbury. I'm todd z Lucky. It is Monday, 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: May twentieth, twenty twenty four. The Phillies swept the Nationals 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: over the weekend. They're off to the greatest start in 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Phillies history through forty eight games. Hi with the ninety 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: three Phillies. I think the seventy six Phillies. They keep 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: winning and winning and winning. They keep winning so much 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: that last night, Reuben, I saw you had a little, 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: uh sweep martini. You're calling it? 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: What is this sweep martini? Man? We went back into 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: our back into our little deck that we just finished 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: off here and oh, that's your place, that's my place, baby. Wow, 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: that's nice. That's right. So I had to go to 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: a little sweep teeny. Uh, yeah, we were. We were 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: thinking about going out and having a cocktail. Was well, 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: let's just go hang out at our deck, all right. 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: We had a little sweep teeny and uh celebrated a 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: phenomenal series. By the by the fightings. It was just 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: really spectacular. 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Are you a dirty martini guy? 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: How what do you? 22 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: How do you do it? 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: Filth not dirty, filthy. I like the filth now it 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: was I actually, you know, we shook it out myself. 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: We've got a nice little uh we have a nice 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: little speakeasy right off right as you enter our home. 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: And then we we have we built a couple of 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: decks out there outside. You don't get that too often 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: here in Old City. But uh, we're very fortunate. 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: You mean you're not a martini guy. 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: I don't think no. 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: I've never had one in my life. 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Are you a beer like a beer guy? You're just 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: straight beer. 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: I like to have a beer or a glass of 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: red wine if I'm eating some pasta or pizza. 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: But that's about you, Todd. 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: I enjoy an old fashioned I will make old fashions. 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: In fact, I make so many old fashions. I have 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: the ingredients out of my kitchen counter upstairs. I make 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: a big batch, throw the bottle in the freezer, so 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: anytime I want it, I can just shake it up, 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: pour it out of her thing ice and rock and 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: roll from there. 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: I love it. I'm actually a big fan of you. 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of bourbon. I've actually been turned 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: over the last two or three years. I got turned 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: on a bourbon, and it's just the brown water's gotten me. 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: It's gotten me gotten. 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: What do you what's your what's your favorite bourbon? 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Todd Well, right now, just to mix these old fashions, 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: I do a little Elijah Craig, I'll just do some 53 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Makers Mark as well, usually makers Mark, usual Makers Mark 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: for an old fashioned keep it somewhat somewhat simple, very 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: very nice at the end of the night, come more nice, Yeah, 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: very nice. Speaking of very nice, Cody Clemens, it's just 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: crazy how how big he's been coming up the last 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: couple of days. The game tying home run two outs 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: in the ninth thing on Saturday, my colleague Paul Cassella 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: said the Phillies have only hit three of those home 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: runs two outs ninth inning, game tying home run. Bryce 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: Harper hit one last year, Trey Turner who went last year, 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: and Cody Clemens hit one on Saturday night. Then he 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: hits the go ahead double in the fifth inning on Sunday. 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Cody's batting three to twenty one, three doubles, one home run, 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: our one triple, three home runs, ten RBIs a one 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: point one six six ops in his first eleven games 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: this season. That is insane. I look this up. There's 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: only been forty one players ever that's had a run 70 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: like that to start, you know, their first eleven games 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: to start a season. You were one of those players. 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 73 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: I know I had a good week like you had. 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: You came up and now this is not doesn't mean 76 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: from the beginning of the season, first eleven games of 77 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: the season with the team in ninety three, Rubin, Yes, 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: you came up and you had Cody Clemens week. It's 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: a fun list because you look at it. You have 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Chase Utley's on there, Bryce Harper's on there, Mike Schmid's 81 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: on there, Pat Burrell, Dick Allen, Chuck Klein, and you 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: got Ruben Tomorrow and Cody Clements. What do you guys 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: think of Cody clements play. It's been ridiculous. 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: Rubin Tomorrow and Cody Clements both second generation Big leaguers. 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: That's right, you know. I what I like? I love 86 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: his swing. He's so short to the ball, Rubin, do 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: you agree. 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's got a really good swing to 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: be able to manage off the bench. It's one of 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: the tough things, you know, It's one of the tough 91 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: things to do is to is to manage the your 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: barrel and get your barrel to the baseball. When you're 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: coming off the bench, especially in this day and age, 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: when the velocities are taller, obviously you got to be 95 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: ready for the fastball. But I mean, he's done a 96 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: nice job on all the pitches. He's hit a couple 97 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: of cutters, he's hit a couple of change ups, he said, 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: a couple of you know, more seamers, a couple of 99 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: sinkers piece. I mean, here, here's where I'm at on him. 100 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: For him to have gone down, I know, the feeling 101 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: like you get sent down. You don't feel like you 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: necessarily should have gotten sent down because he had a 103 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: great spring. The numbers don't work for you. You can't 104 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: put twenty seven men on the on the field on 105 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: a roster. You have to have twenty six. And you know, 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't sulk. He goes down and he plays. And 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: you know the fact that he played so well in 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: spring training that means a lot a lot, and the 109 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: way you handle yourself in spring training means a lot 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: when it comes to like making a decision to bring 111 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: it guy back to the big leagues. So he was 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: not super hot when he was playing down there in 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: Lehigh Valley, but he played well enough and sustained it 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: well enough that hey, we need a left handed bat, 115 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: let's bring him. And he's done extremely well. Man, I 116 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: got to give him some love, and he's handled extraordinarily well. 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Not only that, but I think he's played great defense. 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm really surprised by it. But you know, he played 119 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: at second base and he's been very solid during a 120 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: couple of double plays, he's made some range plays. He 121 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: doesn't look nervous or disappointed or like disappointment wasn't the 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: like just join it. He just feels like pretty natural there. 123 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: And I'm really impressed by that too. 124 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: Jim, Well, I've been thinking a little bit about him 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: this weekend. You know, obviously, you know, you grow up 126 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: wanting to play in the big leagues. You get to 127 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: the big leagues, you want to be an everyday guy. 128 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: Everybody aspires to be an everyday guy, but not everybody is. 129 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: And there still could be a place for the guy 130 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: that plays off the bench. And he looked so good 131 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: in that role. But you mentioned his swing holding up 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: to be a potential bench guy. I think you know, 133 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: he could have a future as that type of a player. 134 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: I mean, just what we're seeing here in the short term. 135 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: And the defense is an important part of it, but 136 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: the fact that he gives you such a good at 137 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: bat when he doesn't get those consistent at bats, and 138 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: I just think it starts with boom. He's right to 139 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: the ball, He's really short to the ball, and you 140 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: could have a nice career, you know. I know, pinch 141 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: hitting is probably not as important as it once was 142 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: now that we have d H in both leagues, but 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: you know, these guys are still very important when you're 144 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: you're thinking about team construction, and when you're constructing a 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: good championship caliber team, sometimes your edge players are hugely 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: important to where you want to go, like a Greg 147 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: Dobbs to those great Phillies teams. You know, he had 148 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: great couple of great years and was a big instrumental 149 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: part that team. And you know, so far, you know, 150 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: it's only what you know, forty five games or so, 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: but forty eight games. But you know, Cody Clemens is 152 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: he's helped them win ball games, and that's what it's about. 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: They're getting contributions really from every corner of their roster, 154 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: and good job by him and obviously big dramatic home 155 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: run a few of them. 156 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Is there any way for him? We're really jumping ahead 157 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: of ourselves here because you don't know what's going to happen. 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: You don't know how long a trade turner is going 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: to take to come back. Could be sounds like he's 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: getting somewhat close. He's running and he's fielding. He's going 161 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: to hit take VP on the field this week. Supposedly, 162 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen between now and then. 163 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: But say Cody clements keeps playing well and hitting like this, 164 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: is there is there any way he stays on this team. 165 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I have trouble seeing a way that he stays on 166 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: his team. Maybe he gets optional. You just bring it 167 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: back up. 168 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: There's a way to stay on the team. Go to 169 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: fourteen position players in twelve pitchers. There's no rule against that. 170 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: That's true. 171 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we played seasons with nine pitchers. I mean, 172 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: with the way this team and the length that they 173 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: have in their rotation, it is not beyond the possibility. 174 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: Now he does have options, and so you know that 175 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: that's the beauty of what Cody Cleintman springs to the 176 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: table as well as as a front person in the 177 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: front office. You know, you're you're loving the fact that 178 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: this guy you can kind of do what you what 179 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: you want with him. I think there's a maximum of 180 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: how many times you do it during the course of 181 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: the season. Was it four or five times? And then 182 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: you can't option back down? But that said, it got 183 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: a lot of flexibility with him. But they can go 184 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: to twelve. They can go to twelve pitchers because they're 185 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: they're their starters are going. You know, they're averaging like 186 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: over six innings pitched per per start and so at 187 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: least I don't know the exact numbers. I wish I 188 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: had them in front of me, but I think it's 189 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: like a six and a third or it's more than anybody. 190 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: I can't imagine that there's another team that has more 191 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: average innings per start than the Phillies. I mean, if 192 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: it's one team that can do it, it might be 193 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: the Phillies. You can go to twelve instead of having 194 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: thirteen pitchers. Just a thought. 195 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: Well, as we like to say, and we've seen something, 196 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: something will present itself, and that's right. I mean, this 197 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: thirty four and fourteen start matches ninety three and seventy 198 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: six for the best start over forty eight games. And 199 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: obviously they're just I mean they're cruising at thirty five 200 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: thousand feet, but you know, still a long way from 201 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: the landing strip. One of the things that I think 202 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: becomes very important when you get off to a start 203 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: like this is the skipper, and is the leader ship, 204 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: and is the messaging. And I just love the messaging 205 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: that Rob Thompson is imparting, and it's basically stay humble 206 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: and stay humble because they've accomplished nothing. This is fun, 207 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: this is tremendous, but we all know where the big 208 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: shiny trophy is and it's in October and you need 209 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: to you need to stack the pennies along the way, 210 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: and they're doing a great job at that. And I 211 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: also think they have the personalities in the clubhouse that 212 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: they're not going to come off the gas. I mean, 213 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: Harper's not going to let you come off the gas. 214 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: He wants it so bad. Wheeler wants it so bad. 215 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: He's not going to let you take your foot off 216 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: the gas. 217 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: Schureber Schreber. 218 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: For Sureber's nuts about it. I mean he was pissed 219 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: when they lost one game two weeks ago. But I 220 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: really like the messaging of Rob that Rob Thompson is imparting, 221 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: what do you think of it? Tom? To me? To me, 222 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: it becomes a good challenge keeping everybody Boom focused because 223 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: things are going so well, keeping everybody realizing that Boom, 224 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: we haven't This is fun, but we haven't accomplished what 225 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: we're really here for. 226 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 227 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Rob's talked about that quite a bit over the past 228 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, because you know, the script has flipped 229 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: so much of slow start, slow start, how you're going 230 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: to dig yourselves out of it to now how you're 231 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: going to keep your foot on the gas. And I 232 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: think another thing that is a helpful reminder for the 233 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: Phillies as they keep playing well and just to keep 234 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: them hungry, I guess you could say, is the fact 235 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: that the team they dispatched of in the last two 236 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: postseasons was the Braves, and nothing is given to you. 237 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, you win one hundred five games in the 238 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: regular season, it does not mean you're going to go 239 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: to win the World Series, So keep that edge. So 240 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I think that's another reminder. But Rob is ideally suited 241 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: to handling his clubhouse and that's that's a big reason 242 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: why the players like him so much. He's got that 243 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: good way of communicating and talking to these guys when 244 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: things are going well, when things are going poorly, keeps 245 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: them on an even keel. And I think he's going 246 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: to be able to keep this team motivated throughout the 247 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: summer to really wrap things up. 248 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: And so this is the cool thing about this ball 249 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: club that I really admire. You said, you know, teams 250 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: take on the personality of the manager. So if you'll 251 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: notice the Phillies are the best team in baseball, you 252 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: don't see these guys doing all this gimmicky bs ho 253 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: When guys hit home runs and putting the hats on 254 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: and putting cloaks on and putting all that shit on 255 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: their bodies and doing all those they expect to do 256 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: these things. When you're a champion, you expect to do 257 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: these things. And Rob, that's not Rob's personality. I don't 258 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 2: know what decisions. Who made the decision that you know 259 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: you needed, You don't need a home run hat and 260 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: all that crap that you do in the They literally 261 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: just enjoy winning and they expect to win, and so 262 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: they're going about their business and they're really you know, 263 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: after the daycare guys. Afterwards they pour some stuff on 264 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: guys in the interviews. That's about the extent of like 265 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: the you know, the swag that you see these guys, 266 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: and they have swag. Believe me, they enjoy it and 267 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: they're having fun, but they know that at the end 268 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: of the day, it's about winning baseball games and not 269 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: all the other bullshit that goes on. And I love that. 270 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: I honestly love it. You know, it's nice to celebrate wins, 271 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: and they should, and that's important, but but for me, 272 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: it's and and you should be enjoying your successes. I 273 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: don't want to sound like an old hat, you know, 274 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like the old guy that 275 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: you shouldn't. But like they genuinely their emotions on the 276 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: field are genuine and they're not planned and it's not 277 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: like a show. They're there to win baseball games and 278 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: they do it in a really business like planet. But 279 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: they also are having a lot of fun with each other. 280 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Do you like the little shimmy they do when they 281 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: get I missed the I missed the cradle cradles the 282 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: cradle is very clever. 283 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: They're very there's a lot of clever stuff. I mean, 284 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: Marsh's got a lot of personality, but he's super respectful. 285 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: You know. Garrett Stubbs is sort of the class not 286 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: the class clown, but you know, he's a guy has 287 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: has has fun there, keeps keeps it, keeps it light. 288 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: But you know, the young guys are actually when you 289 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: start thinking about some of the guys who were younger, younger, 290 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: not not young anymore, Scott Boom, Marsh in particular, those 291 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: three guys, they're actually they're not showmen. They go out 292 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: there and do their business and they play baseball and 293 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: they play it well, really well, and they don't you know, 294 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: don't go they don't do all the bullshit. You know, 295 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: they have fun, but they don't. It's not it's not 296 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: about the chrome. 297 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: Todd was a big fan of the home run hat 298 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: when they had it that year, the sobrero. 299 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: That is not true. 300 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: The time I pissed off Bryce by asking him about it. 301 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: So they did the home run You. 302 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: Remember that town, Yes I do. 303 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: They were down eleven to one and Harper hit a 304 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: home run and somebody put the sombrero on his head. 305 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: So now they're down eleven to two. And I just 306 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: thought like, wow, odd time for a celebration again. Smoked 307 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: eleven to two and I asked him about it, and 308 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: he wasn't I forgot what his answer was. It was 309 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: a legitimate answer that you need to celebrate the moments, 310 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: but he was clearly irked. I asked him about it. 311 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: But funny thing is it disappeared the next year. 312 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: And should have I mean, I listen, I'm about celebrating stuff. 313 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: That's cool. I like it, but I like it to 314 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: have it be more natural. Yeah somebody, Yeah, somebody hits 315 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: a home run when it really means something, and you 316 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: pump your fists and stuff like that. Or you make 317 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: a big pitch and you strike a guy out and 318 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: you get out of the inning and the guy's fired up. 319 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: Jose Aldo, there's nothing wrong with that. That's like emotion, Dude. 320 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 2: That's not a planned thing where you have to do 321 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: a show and I did. That's what I really dig 322 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: about this team, man, And that's sort of it's sort 323 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: of like Rob Thompson's personality. I think that's really cool. 324 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine what's going to happen this 325 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: week if they break out of Cheesesteak hat you guys, 326 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: are heads are gonna explode. 327 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: Not do it sparingly on big wins, big home runs. 328 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: Just save it for when you're like a big cheese 329 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: steak hat. Save it for when you're really hungry, not like, 330 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: you know, when he's been snacking all day. 331 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Ruben, you mentioned you mentioned Stott and Boem. I was 332 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: looking at Stotts numbers. I mean, he's on it. He's 333 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: on another ridiculous terrors. Last eighteen games, He's banging three 334 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: eighty two, four doubles, one triple, four home runs, one 335 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: point two four to two ops. And then I started thinking, Uh, 336 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: I started thinking, Man, I wonder if he could make 337 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: the All Star team this year after that terrible start 338 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: he had. He had a five point fifty nine OPS 339 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: through his first twenty five games. And Scott, I mean, 340 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna use war fangrafts war just as kind 341 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: of like a baseline reference. Right now, he's third in 342 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: the National League in war amongst third basemen. Kettle Marte's 343 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: first Bryce terrank from the Brewers is second. So then 344 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: I said, I wonder where everybody else ranks in the 345 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Phillies infield. Bryce Harper's first l in War amongst first basemen. 346 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: Alec Bowm is first among NL third basemen, and uh 347 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Trey Turner is tied for third despite not playing for 348 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: the past few weeks among NL shortstops. And I looked 349 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: this up. The Phillies have not had three. They have 350 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: not had two All Star infielders since two thousand and 351 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: nine Utley and Ryan Howard. They have not had three 352 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: All Star infielders since Pete Rose, Mike Schmidt Manny Trio 353 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two. Right now, we're seeing one of 354 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: the best early season performances by any Phillies infield in 355 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: recent memory. 356 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I at the beginning of the year, 357 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: NBC Sports Philadelphia asked us to do the pre and 358 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: post in the beginning of the season first game. They 359 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: asked us to make some predictions. I predicted this guy 360 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: to win a batting title Stott Stott. I think he 361 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: had an opportunity with the way he was sort of, 362 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: you know, don't no disrespect that Luisa Rise, because Thelisa 363 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: Rise gets nothing but hits. You know, he's he's like 364 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: the was the Bo Baschett of the National League with 365 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: accumulating hits. But I mean this guy's he's getting better 366 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: and better, and he's not you know, in the early 367 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: part of the season, he was sort of collapsing on 368 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: his backside. He wasn't standing tall, he wasn't used his 369 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: hands as well down to the ball. One of the 370 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: issues was last year that he changed was to make 371 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: sure his top hand was getting involved. He's getting his 372 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: top hand involved. His hands are working beautifully. He's got 373 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: really good choices when he's when he's at the plate, 374 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: he swings at strikes generally, and he's a really good 375 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: two strike hit. Excuse me, it's a really good two 376 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: strike hitter. And so all those elements can help you 377 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: put yourself in a position to be a batting title winner, 378 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: just because he gives himself a chance to barrel the 379 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: ball pretty consistently. I love the way he's bounced back. 380 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: You know, there were some whispers in there for a 381 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: little while and that first month and he was kind 382 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: of cruising along that you know, you know, is he 383 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: is he developing? Is something that happened to him, do we? 384 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean I heard some whispers about you know, you know, 385 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: he does have options to you know, there's other guys 386 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: like Cody Clemens and others. I don't think there's any 387 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: real discussion about it. But but he had a really 388 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: really terrible start. I mean, people forget and then he 389 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: became Rice and Stot again and made the adjustments and 390 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: now he's he's just spectacular. And yes, I do think 391 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: that he is All Star caliber worthy because of his offense, 392 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: but also because of his defense, because a man can 393 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: play second base, and I know he's playing a lot 394 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: more shortstop or a little bit more shortstop, but man, 395 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: this guy can do it. You can do it, you 396 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: can hit, can play. 397 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: And Alec Bohm too. I mean, you've got two guys 398 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: that are like knock knock knock on their prime, you know, 399 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: like the door is opening to their prime years and 400 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: they've both built really really strong foundations and you know 401 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: they're probably have one leg through that door, but we're 402 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 3: going to see it. You know, it's very possible. We're 403 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: going to see a really good stretch of you know, 404 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: four or five six years out of these guys, because 405 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: you know, you have that veteran nucleus on this team 406 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: with the Schwarbers, the Harper's, the real Mudos, and this 407 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: next crew under them is a terrific group as well. 408 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 3: I love that they have that in their chemistry and 409 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 3: their makeup. You got guys that are well into their prime. 410 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: You got guys just just entering it, and they all 411 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: you know, meshed together, I mean very well. The chemistry 412 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: on this team is really a beautiful thing. I mean, 413 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: winning will do that. It makes everybody happy. It's why 414 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: you want to come to the ballpark. Losing is miserable, 415 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: but you know they're they're really you know, bom is 416 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: he's leaving the Major's and RBIs who to thunk it? 417 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: And two years ago when he was you know, maybe 418 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: ticketed for Lehigh Valley or who knows where. 419 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: So let me just make one comment against about with 420 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: Bowman and Todd. You can chime, but I so Alec 421 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: Boom yesterday goes shackles fly to right man on third, 422 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: less than two outs, sacrifice line drive to write another 423 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: sack fly for two. RBIs and then is last at 424 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: bad He gets a couple of guys on and someone 425 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: throws a piece of cheese and the inside part of 426 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: the plate and he smokes it to left for a 427 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: home run. I mean, this guy understands and he understood 428 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: hitting really really well when he first got to the 429 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: big League is one of the reasons why he was 430 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: almost a Rookie of the Year and probably should have 431 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: been a rookie year in twenty twenty. And that's short season. 432 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: But to watch him situationally hit and his approach and 433 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: his and now he's starting to understand when he can 434 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: get out front or you know, turn on some balls, 435 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: you to see some more home runs. You may not 436 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: see forty home runs out of the guy ever, but 437 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: that's okay because he's gonna end up hitting it in 438 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: a high two eighties and driving in over one hundred 439 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: runs every year. And if you do that, my friends, 440 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: that's like all star caliber winning baseball. And that's what 441 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: I love about the kid. 442 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: Sorryference between him a couple. He believes he can do 443 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: it now, he believes he belongs. The mind is so 444 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: important at all this. He believes he can handle that pitch. 445 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: You know, he didn't try to flay that pitch into 446 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: into into right field. He saw it and his eyes 447 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: went boom and his bat head came out and he 448 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: murdered it. 449 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: Well, Rubin, you said on the broadcast yesterday, I can't remember, 450 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: or sometime over the weekend he was in a big 451 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: spot and Harper was at the plate, and it's like, 452 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: are they get to pitch to Harper? And he said, 453 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: pick your poison. You want to go with Bryce Harper, 454 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: who's one of the best in the game, or you 455 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: want to go with the guy that just puts the 456 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: ball in play and gets an RBI every time he 457 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: steps to the steps to the plate, you know. And 458 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: that's the thing about Boom I think it was great 459 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: is that he does not strike out in those situations 460 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: runners in scoring position. He's always putting the ball in play, 461 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: always putting the ball in play. He see him have 462 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: a bad at bat. Ever, with runners in scoring position. 463 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: He's going to make Bryce Harper better. Remember we were 464 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: talking about who's going to effect him at JT back there, 465 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: and Jac's was fine. But the growth of and and 466 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: when he started hitting, and I was like, when is 467 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: Rob gonna throw him into that four hole? And Boom, 468 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: he tossed him in the four hole and forget about it. 469 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: I forget about it. 470 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: By the way, he also, in addition to leading the 471 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: majors in RBI's leads to majors in doubles. 472 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: Yes, a good hitter, Yeah, both fields. He's great. He's 473 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: been he's been fantastic, so again about a month ago 474 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: before a month and a half to go before all 475 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Star teams are announced. But it will be interesting to 476 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: see how many of those Phillies infielders make it. Band 477 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: vote obviously a big part of it team. You know, 478 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: overall one player has to come from every team, but 479 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: you have right now. If Trey Turner comes back the 480 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, you could have four guys in 481 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: the conversation. That has not happened very often in Phillies' history. 482 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: One other guy I wanted to mention real quick was 483 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: something that jumped out the other night. Chris Sanchez is pitching, 484 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm not at the ball park. I'm sitting 485 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: in my couch and I look up and I go, 486 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: holy crap, this dude just through ninety eight miles an 487 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: hour in the sixth inning. So me being a geek, 488 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: I go on Baseball Savant the next morning and I 489 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: check it out and I go, that was the fastest 490 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: pitch he's ever thrown in the Big leagues in the 491 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: sixth inning on Saturday night, and seven of his ten 492 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: fastest pitches ever in the Big leagues came on Saturday night. 493 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing that he is, you know, added, I 494 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: mean that was the talk coming in this season. He's 495 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: added some muscle to add some strength. It makes them 496 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: more consistent with his delivery. But man, he's throwing the 497 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: ball hard. It's making the change up better. He's looking 498 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: pretty good as the Phillies number four four starter. 499 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: He must you know, there are days when it just 500 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: feels good coming out of your hand, and he's to 501 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 3: me in ascending talent. He's getting better all the time. 502 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: They really you look at the improvement they've gotten from Stott, Boom, Sanchez, 503 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: even Rojas at the big league level, it just tells 504 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: you development doesn't stop when you get here, and the 505 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: people here are doing a really good job with him. 506 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: But he's he's a really nice find. I mean, that 507 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: was a heck of a trade getting that guy. You know, 508 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: he plucked him out of a ball. I think they 509 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: liked his arm, they liked his v low, they thought 510 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: there was something there. They you know, buffed them up 511 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: and they got themselves a major league starting pitcher. And 512 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: that's a that's a big commodity in this game. 513 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: So he is one of the pictures that has the 514 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: most development that I've seen in a long long time, 515 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: in a very short period of time, this is the 516 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: guy was when they first got him. He was a thrower, 517 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: had no idea where the what was going, had a 518 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: really good arm. He could throw forty six ninety six 519 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: ninety seven miles an hour. He had a big arm 520 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 2: with no idea where he was going with it. I 521 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: know he got to start in Boston a couple of 522 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: years back, and you know, they had he had a 523 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 2: spot start, and you're like, what are you gonna get 524 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: out of this guy? He doesn't have a secondary pitch. 525 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Right, this guy has become 526 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: a totally different player. He has He now can command 527 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: his fastball much much better. And he did that starting 528 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: last year towards the end of the year, and you 529 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: can see the confidence starting to grow. He had the 530 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: best single pitch I think in all baseball last year 531 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: as far as like stats, whatever you want to call him. 532 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: That change up was just electric last year. And I 533 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: think hitters hit like twenty off of it or whatever 534 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: whatever the number was, but it was that outstanding. Don't 535 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: let the numbers getting away of a good story. And 536 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: and the fact that you know, he's starting to develop. 537 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: You know, they tried the cutter during the course of 538 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: the spring. That didn't work out for him because he 539 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: lost the feel of his change up. So he went 540 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: back to his you know, slider and change up combination 541 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: as his secondaries. And now he's gained so much confidence 542 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 2: that he's firing that fastball with the same velocity he 543 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: used to have now because he could command it and 544 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: trusts it, and he trusts his ability to throw it 545 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: for a strike. And as you said, Todd, that's making 546 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: that change up so much more effective. And he actually 547 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: threw some really good sliders his last outing. So he's 548 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: starting to gain all of this stuff and confidence. And 549 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, if you stand next to this guy, 550 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: he's like six five, he's gigantic, he's tall, he's a big, 551 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: strong dude, and he is he seems durable. I mean, 552 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: it's it's it's a great It was a great trade. 553 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: I think it was Matt clintac him in that trade. 554 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: Get some love for that. 555 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: And what's funny about that trade is that they traded 556 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: Sanchez for Curtis Mead, uh low level infielder, and Curtis 557 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Mead kind of shot off as a prospect, and there 558 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: was a couple of years there was like Philly's messed 559 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: that one, a big time, big time Curtis Mead is 560 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: going to be a stud. Christopher Sanchez, his velocity has dropped. 561 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: Now he's a he's maybe he's a long guy, potentially 562 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: maybe a reliever. He's not very good, And now the 563 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: script is flipped because of continued development and now they 564 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: have a really good number four star Rubin, you weren't 565 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: too off Sanchez a change up. They hit one forty 566 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: eight against them last season this year one seventy four, 567 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: but only a two seventeen slug so like if they 568 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: hit it, it's a weak contact. His ground ball rate 569 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: is one of the top ground ball rates in all baseball. 570 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: Everything is on the ground because that change up. He's 571 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. So let's look ahead real. We talked about 572 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: this last week when you're answering listener questions, Phillies haven't 573 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: played anybody, blah blah blah. They're playing the Rangers this week. 574 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: They're five hundred, but they are the defending World Series champions. 575 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: They're a bit of a mess right now with injuries. 576 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: So Tuesday it's going to be John Gray versus Ranger Wednesday, 577 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker is most likely going to return or stay 578 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: in the rotation make his start after taking that ball 579 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: off his foot. It sounds like that's going to happen, 580 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: unless there's something crazy that happens for the next couple 581 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: of days. Rangers do not have a starter named yet, 582 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: but it could be left handed Andrew Haney, who's zero 583 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: and five with a four four three ERA. And then 584 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: Thursday it's gonna be. 585 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: It's maybe Date. I'm sorry, go ahead, no, go, go go. 586 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: I thought, I what is Wheeler? Are gonna be pitching 587 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: on Thursday? I think yeah, because you want to stay 588 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: in rotation. 589 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: Right right right, it's gonna be Wheeler, I think versus 590 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: and then the Rangers don't know who it's gonna be yet. 591 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: Could be Dane Dunning could be coming back from the 592 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: injured list, he's got a rotator cuff. Otherwise, it could 593 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: be Jose Urania Adulas. Garcia is kind of banged up 594 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: right now after a collision the other day, but he 595 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: might come back. But it's it'll be a good test. 596 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they have the pedigree, no doubt. They're the 597 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: defending World Series champions. So that should make this that 598 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: should make this series a little bit of fun for 599 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: those people clamoring for a top talented team. For the 600 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Phillies to sink their teeth into. 601 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Well, the eye test, I know they their schedule has 602 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: been soft, just because the makeup of you know, most 603 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: of the National League has a lot of soft teams. 604 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: But the Phillies have done what you do to a 605 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: soft team, you put them through the wood chipper. But 606 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: the eye test tells me the Phillies are a good team. 607 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: And you know, even beyond what the records of the opponents, 608 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we've we've kind of gone through so many 609 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: of what we're seeing on the pitcher's model, what we're 610 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: seeing on the offense. They're a good club, and I 611 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: just the tests will get harder, but I still think 612 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: one of the you know, obviously one of the biggest 613 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: tests is just going to be over the next four months, 614 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: just staying consistent, staying hungry, and everything that I see 615 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: tells me they can pass that test. 616 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: Totally agree, Jim. And they have some depth, you know, 617 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: obviously on the bench, they have some depth in their rotation. 618 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: I think that they're really improving. I mean the last 619 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: from May first on, their bullpen has been top tier. 620 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: It really has been. It's a top five and almost 621 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: every single cat or e ra a whip batting average against. 622 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: Since May first, it's been really, really good. You know, 623 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: there's always everybody's panicking about it. I know, Sir Anthony 624 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: Dominguez is one of the pieces of it, and he 625 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: hasn't been as consistent as you would want him to be. 626 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: I think he's getting a little bit better. But you 627 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: got Kirkering, You've got Strom who's been phenomenal, You've got 628 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: so you know, you've got Alvarado and Hopfmin who been terrific. 629 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 630 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think there's a whole lot of teams. 631 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams are pretty envious of what 632 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: they got in the back end of that. We've been too. 633 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, enjoy it. 634 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, guys, we will be back later this week. 635 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, thanks for watching on YouTube, and we'll 636 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: be back. 637 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: Have a great day, guys. 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