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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, arm Strong

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Speaker 1: and Getty and he Armstrong and Yeddy Michael. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: post your cheese dip or whatever your recipe, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually make that this year. Henry and I

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Speaker 1: are gonna eat cheese dip. Matter of fact, it's already posted.

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Speaker 1: Henry's gonna wear his Mahomes jersey. I'm gonna wear my

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Speaker 1: original Chief's Joe Montana jersey from way back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Watch the Big Game.

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Speaker 2: You'll always be a forty nine er to me or

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Speaker 2: something irrelevant. So the Super Bowl is coming up Sunday, Shirley,

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Speaker 2: you know that. And this is a list of things

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Speaker 2: the NFL requires your city has if you want to

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Speaker 2: host one.

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Speaker 3: NFL requires access to two top tier boys alleys.

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Speaker 1: No clue why.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Roger Goodell is a bowling enthusiast, but who knows.

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Speaker 3: The league also requires access to three top tier golf

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Speaker 3: courses no costs luss. The city must be able to

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Speaker 3: provide free apartment housing to NFL staff for over a

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Speaker 3: month before the actual game. Thirty five thousand free parking

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Speaker 3: spaces at the stadium, and twenty three billboards for promotional

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Speaker 3: use around the city. Not to mention the team. Hotels

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Speaker 3: must agree to televise the NFL network or a year

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Speaker 3: leading up to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Well that's an interesting one to jam in the

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Speaker 1: They have to be there for a month before the game,

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Speaker 1: NFL officials. Yeah, golf courses doesn't surprise me. I guess

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Speaker 2: Okay, you probably have various parties for the owners and

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Speaker 2: sponsors and all sorts of stuffies. Actually surprised. Strip clubs

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Speaker 2: is not on that list. I wonder if that's in

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Speaker 2: the fine prints. Probably with a non disclosure agreement to

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Speaker 2: attack don rightly.

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Speaker 1: So in some sort of gentleman's entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Uh, gentlemen, I thought this is interesting if you're new

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Speaker 2: to the show. Jack and I both have railed long

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Speaker 2: and hard against critical theory and DEI it's neo Marxism.

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Speaker 1: Will explain a little more about that.

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Speaker 2: It maskerrades quite successfully, though, as we just want everybody

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Speaker 2: to get a fair shot in America, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of people think DEI actually is just we want more diversity.

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Speaker 2: We want people to be able to apply for jobs

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Speaker 2: and get them. No, everybody wants that DEI is in

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Speaker 2: cities plot that mascarades as civil rights. Having said that

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Speaker 2: the headline the journal America is abandoning DEI, the NFL

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Speaker 2: remains all in. Everyone from the federal government of the

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Speaker 2: Fortune five hundred are dialing back diversity efforts DEI efforts,

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Speaker 2: but America's most popular sport is standing its ground. I'm

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Speaker 2: not shocked by this. I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that journalism regularly fudges the

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Speaker 1: difference between DEI, which is a specific thing, and diversity,

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Speaker 1: acting like they're the same thing. They don't know.

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Speaker 2: I honestly believe the percentage of Americans who understand that

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Speaker 2: that DEI is part of critical theory comes from the

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Speaker 2: Frankfurt School of philosophy. It's a method of taking over institutions. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: you call everybody a racist unless they agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps you went to a delightful training session where this happened,

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Speaker 2: and obviously, if you're a racist, according to the nice

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Speaker 2: people who are running your DEI department, you can't be

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Speaker 2: they bring in somebody who believes what they do, which

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Speaker 2: is Neo Marxism, equity, etc. DEI is Marxism. It's not diversity.

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Speaker 1: That reminds me. I read a great piece yesterday on

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Speaker 1: all time. Now that his run is over, I think

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Speaker 1: had to shut down his anti racist institute. He got

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Speaker 1: Never did anything. No people were falling all over themselves

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Speaker 2: And you remember, no matter how you intended what you said,

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Speaker 2: It's a method of capture, of taking over institutions. And

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Speaker 2: But back to my main point, I think a lot

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Speaker 2: back to the journal thing, the NFL is a TV show.

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Speaker 2: Never forget that it's an entertainment product from top to bottom.

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Speaker 1: Not actually an effort to see which city has the

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Speaker 2: No, it's a TV show, and it is an incredibly popular,

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Speaker 1: I've noticed that, and given the fact.

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Speaker 2: That most people don't understand what DEI really is and

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Speaker 2: what it is not, including young black men who run,

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Speaker 2: in incredible physical condition and memorize playbooks that would boggle

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Speaker 2: Goodell has said, no, we're still up with diversity, up

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Speaker 2: I thought this was more interesting and revealing. This is

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Speaker 2: a piece written by Callum Borcher's what happens when a

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Speaker 2: former NFL player becomes your office coworker. And I've got

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Speaker 2: to admit I haven't thought about this much. Oh and

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three that was.

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Speaker 1: Twenty two years ago?

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Speaker 2: A Super Bowl commercial featuring was it Terry Tait office

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you saw the commercial, you certainly remember it now.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely hilarious. They hired a linebacker to root out inefficiency

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Speaker 2: real NFL retirees who entered the business world learned to

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Speaker 2: make an impact in different ways. Quote Will Rackley, a

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're crutching my spirit.

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Speaker 2: I need a spirit day, I need a mental health day.

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Speaker 1: They have trouble with people that can deliver the candid feedback.

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Speaker 1: Though you smell funny, everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 2: No, not that sort of candid about job performance specifically

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Speaker 2: extremely uncomfortable giving it. You gotta stop eating with your

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Speaker 2: mouth open. You're gonna make somebody kill you. Wow, now

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Speaker 2: we're talking about business performance again. But a former gridiron

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Speaker 2: pro accustomed to coaches a yell, cuss, and call out

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Speaker 1: That's funny. My son just said this is his first

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Speaker 1: that's what coaches do. Yes, good or bad, no matter

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Speaker 2: This is the candid feedback we're discussing. And while there

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Speaker 2: are some truth to the cliche that athletes can bring

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Speaker 2: winning mindsets to business, it is actually their ability to

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Speaker 1: According to bosses and the former.

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Speaker 2: NFL players are talking about are like the vast majority

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Speaker 1: Which is which is almost everybody who gets in the NFL. Right.

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Speaker 2: said an associate director of non traditional talent programs at Verizon.

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Speaker 2: The ability to pick yourself up and get back into

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Speaker 1: I don't doubt that that should be focused on more

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Speaker 2: There's a great piece they did. Yeah, I know, when

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Speaker 1: They lose games, not Sunday. They won't all right.

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Speaker 2: Looking, it's, oh yeah, we get to Terry Tate office linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Why not Michael Again? This was twenty two years ago.

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Speaker 4: When we asked Rebuk to send us Terry Tate, some

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Speaker 4: in paradigm, breaking outside the box.

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Speaker 1: Thinking anyway, break was over fifteen minutes ago match.

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Speaker 4: And since Terry has been with us, our productivity has

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Speaker 4: gone up forty six percent. We're getting more from our

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Speaker 1: You know, you need a come a seat or your

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Speaker 1: TPS reports, Richie. That ain't new baby, hey Janis.

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Speaker 4: But what's really impressed me is how Terry has become

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Speaker 6: that we're very much prompted by or a result of

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Speaker 6: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen

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Speaker 6: in the region.

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Speaker 1: I'm mostly reminded listening to that what a dope she is.

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Speaker 1: She was a dope. But here's the same question, different answer.

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Speaker 1: But it seems that Prime Minister net and Yah who

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Speaker 1: is not listening, We're not.

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Speaker 6: Going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United

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Speaker 6: States to be clear about where we stand on the

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Speaker 6: need for this war to end.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a tough one. I mean, not the legal part.

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested in that part. But that's a tough

447
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Speaker 1: one from a like even a news standpoint, because normally, yeah,

448
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Speaker 1: you're interviewing, whether it's a politician or a coach or whoever.

449
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Speaker 1: You tried it, you just try to get it down

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Speaker 1: to the answer. You had a question and you want

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Speaker 1: the answer, and you want to give the answer to

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Speaker 1: the people who are watching or listening, and you want

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Speaker 1: to be short and interesting and easily understood. But in

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Speaker 1: the case of Kamala Harris, because she was such a

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Speaker 1: meandering dope. God, the story is the long, meandering dopiness.

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Speaker 1: That is the story. What she she doesn't say anything. Ever,

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Speaker 1: I don't know from a like even a journalistic standpoint,

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Speaker 1: would I think how you should handle that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you had, unlike all other politicians, editing her at all,

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Speaker 1: was significant to the interview, Yeah, yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was the total on the words there

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Speaker 1: that I mentioned? This is from the New York Post's

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Speaker 1: counting of it. She gave the total answer, which I

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Speaker 1: don't think we you can. The whole thing is out now.

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Speaker 1: I started watching yesterday. It's like an hour long. But

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is out there, and I'll have to

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Speaker 1: watch this later. They didn't air it in the sixty

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Speaker 1: minutes interview, the whole thing at all, but Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: gave a one hundred and seventy nine word answer to

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Speaker 1: that question, and then sixty minutes cut it down to

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Speaker 1: twenty words, which still sounds dumb. She still sounds like

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Speaker 1: she has no idea what she's talking about.

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Speaker 2: Well, that first version was I was like, oh, that's right. Yeah, boy,

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Speaker 2: she's that dumb.

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Speaker 1: But that's the trip. That's the twenty one that's the

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Speaker 1: twenty word version that they edited it out to. I

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Speaker 1: want to hear the whole ard seventy nine words? How

478
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Speaker 1: does she say good Lord?

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Speaker 2: Keeping in mind she only lost because of misogyny and

480
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Speaker 2: racism according to the new head of the DNC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think what's going to come out

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Speaker 1: of this? And like, looking at that New York Times

483
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Speaker 1: subhad people are gonna hear see Trump sues sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Turns out sixty minutes did edit it. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what's going to be in the ether of the conversation

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Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, if if it becomes against the law

487
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Speaker 1: to edit answers at all, I don't know how we

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Speaker 1: would even move forward as a species, those of us

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Speaker 1: who play clips for a living.

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Speaker 2: And if you're not familiar with this, politicians, especially if

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Speaker 2: they're in an even semi hostile forum, we'll try to

492
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Speaker 2: filibuster you. Yeah, you'll ask them are you going to

493
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Speaker 2: vote for the Jones Amendment? And five and a half

494
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Speaker 2: minutes of rambling later, you'll find finally be like.

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Speaker 1: Can we readirect plays? And they do that intentionally, so

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Speaker 1: you have to edit. Yeah, that's a good point right there.

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Speaker 1: It's often to not have to answer the question and

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Speaker 1: bor you to death, or knowing that you're going to

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Speaker 1: have to get to a break at some point. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a big fan of horror movies. I just I

501
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Speaker 1: don't dig them.

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Speaker 2: But if I want to be horrified, I'll sit around

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Speaker 2: in daydream for five minutes.

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Speaker 1: About what it would have been like if Kamala had won.

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Speaker 2: And we were going one hundred miles per hour down

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Speaker 2: the road of DEI and white guilt and men playing

507
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Speaker 2: women sports and squandering money and the ridiculous USAID programs,

508
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Speaker 2: one hundred different examples. It's too terrible to contemplate.

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Speaker 1: We you know, I believe in the parallel universe thing.

510
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I want to. I want Elon to put me on

511
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Speaker 1: a spaceship to go to the parallel universe where she

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Speaker 1: won and see how it's playing out. Holy cow, no kidding, man,

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Speaker 1: You talk about a different next four years.

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Speaker 2: Well, in foreign policy wise, what are our adversaries going

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Speaker 2: to do with President kamalaw in charge?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I would liked her super Bowl interview, or she

517
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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have done it. She'd have done like Biden

518
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Speaker 1: and just skipped it. Yeah, Trump's doing it. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interviewed by Brett Baer before the super Bowl. If

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Speaker 1: you want more politics on your Super Bowl Sunday, I don't.

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Speaker 1: We've got more on the way next. What's the most

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Speaker 1: sought after beer in America? Of that? For you in

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Speaker 1: a moment? Sought after? Yeah, people can't wait till it

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Speaker 1: shows up. The annual delivery of what arguably the most

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Speaker 1: sought after beer in America. Well, I'll tell you now,

526
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Speaker 1: Pliny the Younger, which I've never had. Are you familiar

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Speaker 1: with that?

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Speaker 4: Beer.

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Speaker 2: I remember it was Pliny the Elder for a long time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they've evolved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess when it shows up and it's going

532
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Speaker 1: to at least in the San Francisco Bayry at the

533
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Speaker 1: bars this weekend. It's a hot thing and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: last long. Okay. Our former producer Scott was a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Oh really. In fact, I think he brought a six

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Speaker 1: pack in. Yep. Yeah, so we got more texts about

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Speaker 1: the whole sixty minutes Kamala edited thing than we get

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Speaker 1: on most topics. So again, I think it's gonna end

539
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Speaker 1: up being a win for Trump overall. But somebody pointed

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Speaker 1: out the sixty minutes interview was mostly Bill Whittaker talking

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Speaker 1: over the video of Kamala summarizing her answers, which is

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Speaker 1: true if you remember that they do that all the time.

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Speaker 1: They'll just show a picture of her walking through the

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Speaker 1: White House or something, say Kamala hars. He went on

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Speaker 1: to say that she believes that because she couldn't say

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Speaker 1: it herself. Yeah, of course, they talk so freaking slow

547
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Speaker 1: in sixty minutes. It is one of your big complaints

548
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Speaker 1: and they repeat every question. Have you tried doing audio

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Speaker 1: books or podcasts at more than one time speed, like

550
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Speaker 1: faster or twice. Yeah, I don't think it's good for me.

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Speaker 1: I was listened to Elon on a podcast the other day.

552
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Speaker 1: He does his at like one and a half to two.

553
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Speaker 1: Everything he takes in. He thinks our brains can take

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Speaker 1: in information much faster, and that you know, we just

555
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Speaker 1: need to we need just to like acclimate ourselves to

556
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Speaker 1: it and wrap ourselves up, and that we could and

557
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Speaker 1: that we'll be able to take in stuff so we

558
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Speaker 1: can just take in so much more information. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got like one of the more special brains in

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Speaker 1: world history, and he thinks everybody else's brain's like his.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm willing to consider it and give it a try.

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Speaker 2: But he's an autistic super genius right exactly. But man

563
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Speaker 2: like a greyhound looking at my Labrador retriever and saying

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Speaker 2: you could run.

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Speaker 1: Faster than that. You know. I tried one point two

566
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Speaker 1: on this book, and if you look at the it

567
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: really saves you a ton of time. I mean, the

568
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Speaker 1: math's pretty simple. But I had like three hours left

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Speaker 1: on this book and I clicked up the speed, and

570
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden I got two hours and twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, I could get through it that much faster,

572
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Speaker 1: but it was making me insane trying to pay attention

573
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: to was like, ah, is it making me nervous? Because

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Speaker 1: you can't you can't let your mind drift for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. If when they're talking this fast all the time,

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Speaker 1: you got to be right on top of it, right right.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the stuff I listened to is like

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Speaker 2: full of ideas. That's why I'm listening to it, and

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Speaker 2: I'd like to be able to absorb them and kind

580
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Speaker 2: of kick them around a little bit. Anyway, Speaking of media,

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Speaker 2: a couple more quick notes. The FCC has launched an

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Speaker 2: investigation into radio stations backed by leftist billionaire George Sorows

583
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Speaker 2: for broadcasting.

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Speaker 1: Live locations about the cover immigration.

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Speaker 2: Right for broadcasting live locations of undercovered immigration and Customs

586
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Speaker 2: Enforcement agents UH. One of those stations, case CBS in

587
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Speaker 2: San France, California's, come under scrutiny for revealing live locations

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Speaker 2: of undercover ice vehicles and agents conducting operations outrageous. They've

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Speaker 2: sent a formal letter letter of inquiry to the radio

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Speaker 2: station as part of the FCC investigation.

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Speaker 1: This is really serious stuff and it should be. How

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Speaker 1: much trouble is our friend in who has done news

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Speaker 1: for us many, many, many times over the years, how

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Speaker 1: much trouble is he in? Like, legally speaking, I have

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Speaker 1: no idea. I've heard a couple of people say, like

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Speaker 1: he could actually be in bad trouble. Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to look into that because the First Amendment

598
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Speaker 2: is a powerful son of a gun protecting the media.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not saying he should be. I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: But we'll be covering it, I mean, because it affects

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Speaker 2: us in a rather fundamental way. Not that we're going

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Speaker 2: to out undercover operations anytime soon, because we're not I

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Speaker 2: don't know, commie jackasses.

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Speaker 1: Well, what if it was something we agreed with, though

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Speaker 1: we should be able to do that, right, What would

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Speaker 1: be a good example. I don't know. If the Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris administration was gonna come get you if you misgendered somebody,

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Speaker 1: which is against the law in California. So let's say

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom was gonna come arrest you because you misgendered somebody,

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Speaker 1: And we decided to go on the radio and say

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Speaker 1: where the misgender police were so you could look out

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Speaker 1: for them. We might do that.

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Speaker 2: I would do that one hundred percent, and I would

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Speaker 2: expect to endure the consequences. I don't know, and then

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Speaker 2: I would get a lawyer and fight it, and that

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Speaker 2: would be my thing, and I'd be really excited.

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Speaker 1: I guess your question is, should there be consequences as

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Speaker 1: a free speech issue? I don't know. I never thought

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Speaker 1: at that angle. It just seems so unconsciable to me

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Speaker 1: to tip off criminals. And I don't mean they're here

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Speaker 1: illegally criminals, they're criminals on top of that right to

622
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Speaker 1: try to protect them seems so crazy to me. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at.

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Speaker 2: It purely as the First Amendment press issue, not whether

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Speaker 2: it was right or wrong. I mean, that's that's self

626
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Speaker 2: evident to me. It's funny I just wrote a thing.

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Speaker 2: It had to do with the idea of a brave

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Speaker 2: revolutionary college student, for instance, who considers himself a Jay Guavera.

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Speaker 2: They're wearing the caffia, which I heard referred to as

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Speaker 2: a terror scarf the other day.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like that kind of chilli. Honey, do

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Speaker 1: you know where my terror scarf is?

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Speaker 2: My next exactly? But anyway, the brave little revolutionary who's

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Speaker 2: in there.

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Speaker 1: And you need to fight the power and bring revolution

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Speaker 1: from the river to the sea. And then they break

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Speaker 1: windows and get arrested, and it's oh, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You're hurting my wrist? What are you doing? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can't rescue I have class tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you people are so pathetic. OI don't

641
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Speaker 2: have much time for this, and it's a damn shame.

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00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: But I'll give you a touch of it. The Trump

643
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: administration is turning their gaze as soon as possible to

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Speaker 2: NPR friends and the people who run NPR, and they're

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Speaker 2: eighty seven to zero Democrats to Republicans at NPR in DC,

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Speaker 2: for instance, how that process is going to work, and

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Speaker 2: some great questions that ought to be asked. Next hour.

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Speaker 2: That's our four of the show. If you don't get

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Speaker 2: our four of the show, grab it later via podcasts.

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